Hundreds of Scots miners convicted during 80s strikes to be pardoned

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  • Опубликовано: 10 дек 2024

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  • @maycoats4901
    @maycoats4901 Год назад +27

    These brave men, were fighting for their jobs, they Should never have been arrested.

  • @brownkevi1
    @brownkevi1 Год назад +16

    As a Social Worker in Loanhead /Bilston, I helped Miners' wives with benefits advice. I was also duty bound to write reports for the Courts on miners who were accused and convicted of 'breach of the peace'. I wrote these reports, making clear how these men were stalwart members of the community, fighting to keep their jobs, etc., and what they contrbuted to the community.
    I was thereafter under investigation, because the Courts did not like what I wrote, and all my work as a Social Worker over the past year was interrogated. Every last aspect of my work! It was a dreadful experience for me. In the end, the investgation found that I was always honest and could evidence my reports. I had done nothing wrong. They could find no faults.
    I was told never to do that again.

    • @blairrobert3438
      @blairrobert3438 9 месяцев назад +1

      Disgusting. I grew up in Loanhead as well and remember how grim it was for families.

    • @nialloneill5097
      @nialloneill5097 9 месяцев назад +1

      Not something many police could claim...honest accounts and statements...crooks-almost all of them...including the Courts and Govt...

  • @geraltofrivea7759
    @geraltofrivea7759 3 года назад +34

    We could do with some of this anger right now instead of rolling over like sheep

    • @tontobones
      @tontobones 2 года назад

      You don't need it until you catch the virus.Ive had all 3,still here.

    • @MrOlympuse410
      @MrOlympuse410 2 года назад

      @Scimmia yes, but if you catch the virus there's a risk of death, especially for those with existing health issues or the elderly. the vaccine allows your immune system to 'learn' how to defeat it without the detrimental effects of actually catching the virus. please don't speak on something you don't understand

    • @richardmcfarlane5820
      @richardmcfarlane5820 2 года назад +1

      Agreed

    • @alcoholicjoe6199
      @alcoholicjoe6199 2 года назад

      We have our soaps to watch our gossip ..our reality tv ..our pizzas to munch leave us alone we are happy sheep ...
      I best be careful the shepards are on to me .

    • @AbdirahmanIdris-ku9xm
      @AbdirahmanIdris-ku9xm 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@alcoholicjoe6199panem et circuses...

  • @screamingswifts
    @screamingswifts 2 года назад +12

    Goddamn Thatcher. Btw, The Smiths brought me here. Just read that they used sound recordings from the BBC of protesting workers from the 84/85 miners' strike on the intro to the song Last Night I Dreamed That Somebody Loved Me from the album Strangeways, Here We Come. It's a haunting intro.

    • @Jane-g4z2z
      @Jane-g4z2z Год назад +2

      OMG I always wondered what that was

  • @ianbenson21
    @ianbenson21 2 года назад +6

    Its a shame that the police dont do runing battles like they did then... THOSE miners and pickets are fucking heros today...

  • @valveamplifier
    @valveamplifier 2 года назад +7

    I grew up during this. As I remember it was ultimately about the people breaking free from the government. Ultimately running themselves. Not sure that would have been great? However 38 years later who knows . Can it be much worse than the times which we live in? I would love to try local government.

    • @nialloneill5097
      @nialloneill5097 6 месяцев назад

      It was about the welfare of local communities and the nation as a whole versus a few greedy cats...corporations, privateers, stock brokers, investment bankers...looking for a big killing by exploiting state resources and infra-structure...and subduing and oppressing the working class man to keep him quiet...and render him powerless...so the rich elite could steamroll the economy...hence they needed bent politicians...tyrants...who used the police and courts to lie and arrest the common voice of the country and its conscience. Now look at what we have...depravity, food poverty, fuel poverty, inequity and inequality on levels not seen since Dickensian times...and housing and working conditions that are deteriorating fast to those Victorian levels too...all because the rich wanted to be richer...and are far more loyal to profit margins and theft than social justice and their country of birth-but then most of them have various homes and tax havens to maximise their profits...and live a life of undreamed of pleasure in some Caribbean paradise sailing the gorgeous seas out there...whilst the ex workers queue at food banks to acquire plastic food...at least they'll be dead soon enough on that crap...then that's less to pay out for benefits and a few more bob for the rich pariahs in the country...and world...for the greed extends beyond these shores. At least we owned many of our industries back then...but global money makers don't like that kind of stability...as they need to strip nations of their assets...then move on to the next place. That's why it was an honour to serve the NUM in the Strike....simply by not crossing the picket line...and validating the age old war cry of the 3 Musketeers....ALL FOR ONE, AND ONE FOR ALL...for it was only ever in unity that the workers got anything...and only by being divided-they fell...into obscurity. I still hear the klaxons calling....the men moving towards the cages...it's just they are imprisoned in another way now...by the rich parasites and criminal crooks who fleeced this country of their hard-earned infra-structure...paid for by people who gladly gave large chunks of their income to the tax man...unlike the tax dodgers...who then paid for the education of their sons to become PMs, so they could retain a grip on the wealth and power in the world...THE SPIRIT of these communities needs to arise again...all the dead miners and workers killed by the oppression of the pit owners and capitalists demand it...arm yourself with knowledge...and see the truth in an utterly evil world, full of despicable people...particularly the bent politicians and police who support these ravenous pariahs...to feather their own pockets!

  • @riverdeep399
    @riverdeep399 4 года назад +7

    Good news. Will they do the same for the Welsh miners?

    • @nathaniel4334
      @nathaniel4334 9 месяцев назад +2

      What about the English miners?

    • @nialloneill5097
      @nialloneill5097 6 месяцев назад

      @@nathaniel4334 What about all miners!

    • @DaveSeville-sf1ku
      @DaveSeville-sf1ku 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@nathaniel4334Yes . England, Wales , Scotland are in the Union. Ignore the Tartan SNP. But same time Little Englanders from Daventry or Basildon.

  • @stephenroche5107
    @stephenroche5107 2 года назад +11

    Thatcher's bully boys.

    • @nialloneill5097
      @nialloneill5097 9 месяцев назад

      Yes...some of them copped it though...it wasn't all one-sided...the Courts were on their side though...they could ride horses and arm themselves...miners couldn't though

  • @MarkHarrison733
    @MarkHarrison733 4 месяца назад +1

    Scargill destroyed the NUM by starting a fight he could not win.

  • @snupmadra3787
    @snupmadra3787 Год назад +2

    Desperately sad.

    • @nialloneill5097
      @nialloneill5097 6 месяцев назад

      So so so very very very sad. My family had long since been a mining family...working at Cortonwood...such sadness MUST be bridled with the fire to forge a different way. This is the task for all of us...and so bless and heal the pain that was suffered by those who chose to fight the tyranny of the rich elites, the corporations, the stock brokers, the investment bankers, insurers, housing and property developers and renters, the free-loaders, the lawyers, police and others...most do not care, including GPs and NHS staff...I have met them all, from management in the NCB, to workers, unions...and many others. Greed and selfishness have poisoned our society...it was always there, but mining communities and some of the working class fought back against the march of oppression...until this STRIKE...then the floodgates opened...to a free for all that stripped the country of its assets by well-meaning taxpayers...whilst it was the tax dodgers who stole them...then paid for some of their sons to become PMs by which they could retain their corrupt systems...and world power...the All for One and one for All spirit needs to arise, as does the need to make it clear what lies and injustices have been made by the establishment...in order to justify the unjustifiable...the destruction of common decency and the voice and conscience of a nation...let us all arise as a lasting legacy to the striking and dead miners of yesteryear...and develop consciences that seek and speak truth in all matters, for what a man sows, so shall he reap...

  • @MrOlympuse410
    @MrOlympuse410 Год назад +6

    that police constable is unbearable. the video evidence alone exposes him as a liar - let alone saying an anti police narrative was in the media. the fact that none of the officers who provoked the confrontation were brought to justice is testament to the opposite, they all sucked up to thatcher

    • @ItzAnOrk
      @ItzAnOrk Год назад

      That shameless smirk as he spews his fascist propaganda says it all. ACAB.

    • @norbertholstein2604
      @norbertholstein2604 5 месяцев назад

      Absolutely, the only people demonised in the media were the striking miners. The police were paid handsomely to do Thatchers bidding.

  • @greigs9384
    @greigs9384 9 месяцев назад +2

    Worked out well ……

  • @union310
    @union310 5 месяцев назад +1

    Too late now

  • @thelionsclub4912
    @thelionsclub4912 5 месяцев назад +1

    I was seven Years old and remember me at this News on Television. Margarit Thatcher was a correct Lady and cares always for the Country.

  • @smudgeyarksha3514
    @smudgeyarksha3514 3 месяца назад

    Watching this in 2024 after listening to "Iron Hand" by Dire Straits, history as a 43yo 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿men i never knew about. With everything going on in England right now I will say this brought me to feel many ways including a wet eye or 2. I hate and despise the British Gov, the monarch, the cops, and all those who are for the destruction of that once great land. 😡😢

  • @jamesross1799
    @jamesross1799 Год назад +3

    My childhood

  • @nochepatada
    @nochepatada 2 года назад +3

    Does anyone know which footballers stood with the striking miners?
    Some had pro union messages on their undershirts

    • @nialloneill5097
      @nialloneill5097 9 месяцев назад +2

      I think it was usually the Strikers...

    • @nochepatada
      @nochepatada 9 месяцев назад

      @@nialloneill5097 🥁🥁📀

  • @rogertayler8924
    @rogertayler8924 9 месяцев назад +2

    It was cheaper to import coal.

    • @victorsauvage1890
      @victorsauvage1890 7 месяцев назад

      And cheaper to live in Jamaica

    • @nialloneill5097
      @nialloneill5097 6 месяцев назад

      @@victorsauvage1890 I guess a case could have been argued to wait for global warming...when no fuel would be needed for the cold of winter...or as you rightly said...simply move somewhere warmer...as do many of those who benefitted from the Strike...rich stockbrokers and bank investors...although genuine titles would be criminal crooks and robbers of the poor...

  • @lucatoni4509
    @lucatoni4509 10 месяцев назад +1

    INDEPENDENCE

    • @andrewcraig5490
      @andrewcraig5490 3 месяца назад

      That’s not going very well for you 😂😂

  • @AG-fg3gr
    @AG-fg3gr 9 месяцев назад +2

    The pits were not making money anymore, so they went on strike and in a way were doing the government a favor 😂😂😂

    • @victorsauvage1890
      @victorsauvage1890 7 месяцев назад +1

      Do you know what you are saying?

    • @nialloneill5097
      @nialloneill5097 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@victorsauvage1890 He clearly does not...nor does he probably care

    • @MarkHarrison733
      @MarkHarrison733 4 месяца назад

      @@nialloneill5097 The illegal strike speeded up the inevitable.

    • @nialloneill5097
      @nialloneill5097 4 месяца назад

      @@MarkHarrison733 Nothing illegal...that was a ruse by the illegitimate rulers...who incriminated all those who stood in their way of power and money...the miners voted, the delegates took their votes to the respective areas...then these were taken to national...all the main areas voted to come out...apart from Notts...that had already had a ballot, and decided not to come out...neither did they come out in 1926...and naturally the govt used them to divide and conquer...fools believed them...then not long afterwards lost their jobs...so greed and selfishness did not pay for those weasels and cowards... whereas many folk in the striking areas agree...it was the best year of their lives...which led to personal growth and stronger community bonds...things the Notts lads and supporters of the govt care nothing for...only money and power be their aims