We need him back paul,we miss him so much. your channel is packed with gems as precious as rubies, may Allah (swt) increase all of us in goodness and faith, ameen.
Br Paul we need another interview with Dr. Ali Ataie it's been a while since the last interview about Zionism we need an interview about the miraculous nature of the Quran and the signs of the hour
I'm a simple Christian believer. I also lack ability to understand many scholarly discussions. Especially by Dr Ataie. However I think our Creator understands our limitations. He looks at our hearts. Peace of God to you
@@Dont-worry1618 I don't quite understand your questions? I believe God is all-knowing. So He knows our hearts and our desires and our intentions. He knows when we sin. He knows when we pretend to love Him but we actually are hypocrites ! Can you clarify what you are asking ? I apologize for my lack of understanding. Respectfully
@@Dont-worry1618 Respectfully, I agree with you that these are not God's characteristics. However I don't see Jesus Christ as forgetful or "weak". However I do believe that Jesus Christ did die on a cross. I don't see His crucifixion as a symbol of weakness but as Jesus' ultimate obedience to God the Father. Because God had a plan to save us. We are the ones who are weak and selfish. We are not infallible. Of course a "weak" god could never save a weak human being. What you see as a weakness in Jesus, I see as love ! God's ultimate love for His creation. I could be wrong. But if Jesus was indeed "weak" because He died for us, then Christianity becomes meaningless to me. No disrespect intended. Because only God is all-knowing. I appreciate your honesty. However I don't see Jesus' crucifixion as a sign of weakness. Even a Roman soldier was amazed by Jesus' crucifixion. I wonder what that Roman soldier saw ? What did he feel ? Anyhow, no disrespect intended to you. I'm on a journey too. We all need God's guidance. Peace
I'm a simple Christi an man I don't listen to every video on Blogging Theology but I feel like I'm slowly learning about Islam. However I must be honest. Sometimes I do "smile" but at other times I feel sad. Because I consider Jesus as the ultimate example of God's love for us. And I don't see this consideration regarding God's love in the book of the Quran. I could be wrong and I have no intention to be disrespectful to Muslims. Muslims have their good reasons for believing in the Quran and Christians have their own good perceptions of Jesus Christ as the Lord and Savior. So I'm not here to necessarily refute Islamic beliefs. No way. I do appreciate this channel because God is the Almighty Creator of all individuals ( whether we profess Islam or Christianity or even Atheism ). I also admit I struggle to understand early Christianity. So I'm open-minded to this video. Blessings and the peace of God to Muslims and Christians.
@@johnbrzykcy3076 I choose to be Muslim because I’m an evidendalist. I studied comparative religion and specifically looked for hard objective concrete evidence rather than chase down moral abiding principles of 21st century standard. Once beyond that, I was more than happy to be a Muslim for the right reason that made objective sense to me.
@@BloggingTheologyThere also the impact of the BAR COCHBA REBELLION 135AD. Between 70-135AD there was a guerilla war in Palestine which was almost a defeat for Rome. The fight was to cleanse the Temple Mt. of the Temple of Jupiter. This caused intense persecution of Jews and Jewish Christians throughout the empire. This is why the gentile Christians wanted to change the Jewish language and customs. The QUARTODECIMAN CONTROVERSY was between Anicetus of Rome and Polycarp of Smyrna (John's disciple) about changing the celebration of pascha to create "Easter". After the rebellion the "antisemitism" began to become systemic in order to protect the gentiles from persecution.
@@BloggingTheologyOne other point Dr Ataie may want to explore is the name Ebion, it's the root EBN which can be poor or stone. This is a Hebrew pun. For example in Matthew John Baptist says God can take these stones and make sons of Abraham. In Hebrew it's a pun, take these Eben and make Benim Abraham. We also have the famous Peter as the Eben, or not, in Matthew. However, Peter doesn't apply this singularly to himself in 1 or 2 Peter instead he calls the assembly living Ebenim, stones. So, it's possible that the Ebionites were using this pun in conjunction with "Blessed are the poor" from the beatitudes ".
Without a doubt, listening to this episode is necessary for anyone who sincerely wants to learn the truth. May Allah SWT reward you for all your efforts.
Dr. Ataie, stands alone as the foremost scholar who has a command of Islam, Judaism and Christianity and more importantly their historical development and languages. I could listen to him for hours
The NT refer to them as ‘the poor’ Jesus said, “ take this money to the poor”. The second church the Roman Catholic Church annihilated them when the church spread through the Middle East. This group kept to themselves. NZ.
11:36 I think it's more probable that irenaus is saying it's a redacted version of the gospel of matthew just to downplay the diversity of ebionite beliefs and bolster the gospel of matthew's legitimacy, it's more likely that the ebionites had their own book (gospel of the ebionites, which was a sayings gospel of jesus). But Irenaus just said they had a version of the gospel of matthew to further validate the gospel of matthew as accepted scripture, *even in their heresy, the ebionites still accepted our proto-orthodox (pauline) books* That's the kind of thing it seems irenaus was going for Irenaus [and papias] was wrong in his description of the gospel of matthew, when he said it was written in the dialect of the hebrews and that it was "The oracles" because a) the gospel of matthew we have today and that was circulating in irenaus' time was originally written in greek not hebrew, and the gospel of matthew can't be called "the oracles" (sayings gospel; which is a gospel that is mostly composed of sayings of jesus) because it is not a sayings gospel, it is filled with more narrative than it is with quotes of jesus. So whatever papias and irenaus were describing was not the gospel of matthew that we have today, more plausibly the gospel of the ebionites that the ebionites had with them (a sayings gospel, written in aramaic or hebrew) which irenaus pretended was the gospel of matthew that was around in his time (same as the one we have today) in order to bolster its credibility Conclusion: 1 Gospel of the ebionites exists in 1st-2nd century and possessed by ebionites 2 Irenaus pretends that the gospel of matthew that was circulating in his time (same as what we have today) is the gospel of the ebionites by giving the gospel of matthew the same characteristics as that of the gospel of the ebionites (hebrew dialect and being an oracle) and by replacing it with matthew's name ("gospel of matthew" not gospel of ebionites) in order to bolster the gospel of matthew's credibility; since the gospel of hebrews was a 1st century gospel, irenaus wants to show that the gospel of matthew was authored early 3 Irinaus sees/hears the ebionites with their gospel of ebionites, the very book that he replaced, and pretends that they had a redacted version of the gospel of matthew
Not sure what it means but I saw Paul in a dream wearing the Keffiyeh around his neck & holding palestinian children who were crying, and there were a lot of children there. 😢
The **Hawariyun** (or **Hawariyyun**) are known as the disciples of Prophet Isa (Jesus) in Islamic tradition. The term "Hawari" is derived from the Arabic root meaning "to purify," symbolizing their purity and dedication. In the Quran (Quran 3:52-53), The Hawariyun are described as faithful followers who, despite tremendous difficulty, supported Prophet Isa in spreading God's message. The Ebionites and Nazarenes were primarily Jewish groups, so they would have been ethnically Jewish. They lived in and around Canaan region during the first few centuries CE12. Regarding the language they spoke, it is likely that they used Aramaic as their primary language. Aramaic was the common language of the Jewish people in Canaan region at that time.
I'm not Muslim so I never heard of the "Hawariyun" disciples of Jesus. So I appreciate your information. I need to study this historical group. Respectfully...
Im a latter day Ebonite .Dont believe that Christ is the son of God, well at least not in the usual sense .Nor do I believe in a Trinity . The conversations between you and Dr Ataie are some of the best on RUclips .Thankyou
Congratulations to you for rejecting the A-B-O-M-I-N-A-T-I-O-N called the doctrine of the Trinity and for rejecting Jesus as God. We have a common ground on the most important subject - the subject of God. I invite you to reason. Jesus used to reason? Won't you reason? I invite you to now come to the of Jesus completely. The religious historian and philosopher Han-Joachim Schoeps says: “Here is a paradox of world-historical proportions: Jewish Christianity indeed disappeared within the Christian church, but was PRESERVED in Islam.” (Caps mine) ****************** Backed up by the preaching and practice of Jesus of the Bible. ****************** "There is CONSENSUS among biblical scholars that Jesus, to all historical probability, did NOT consider himself as the incarnation of the second person of a Trinitarian God. NOWHERE did Jesus teach a Trinitarian doctrine. As one would expect from a pious Jewish rabbi, he believed in ONE GOD and strictly REFUSED to be equated with God. Jesus saw himself as a divinely authorized MESSENGER ... [and] his contemporaries [saw] Jesus as a PROPHET..." (Perry Schmidt-Leukel, Religious Pluralism, 152) Caps mine
At the end of the day you reject the last prophet. So doesn't matter at all whether you're an "Ebionite" or not. You don't even have the scripture they read.
@@snakejuce To be honest, I struggle to accept the belief that Muhammad was the last prophet. Of course I don't know much about Islam and almost nothing about Muhammad. So I could be wrong. I'm just a simple Christian believer. I'm trying to understand the beliefs of Muslims better. So far I stand on the foundational aspects of Christianity, which I observe from the life and teachings of Jesus Christ. No disrespect intended to you. I'm no scholar of anything. Respectfully....
It was just a manner of speaking .Of course I'm not an Ebionite in a formal sense . I dont reject the last prophet, PBUH I just have a strong relationship with Jesus .If you want to put me in hell for that go ahead
@@johnbrzykcy3076 Well John, you said it yourself. You know nothing about the man. Start from there. Martin Lings wrote a biography on him, and there's videos online if you prefer video.
Thanks once again for this interesting point of view. I wonder if there is an authority on histories comparisons between Islam and Hindu beliefs. There is a zeal of the converted undertone to these talks from Mr. Williams. Perhaps a wider gaze would be a nice change?
fantastic video as always, may Allah increase your status in the hereafter. Please do a video on spherical earth or flat earth. I have seen Dr. Ali holds a position of flat earth. I think it would be better for us if you do video on why many muslim scholars held and still hold this view. May Allah reward you for all your efforts.
@paul williams: is there anything from around the same time about theology of Jamesonians? What did they believe in? Were they the followers of the truth or of sth that is closer to truth? Do we really have information abt Ebionites and Jamesonians only from the sources of their opposition?
Paul calls himself ,,Anomos” in Greek , which is the same word Jesus (as) used in Matthew 7:15-23 in Vers 23 about people that will come and teach Lawlesness , (Greek anomos)
Thanks for the information. I tried to study Biblical Greek but understanding it eluded me. I need to check out that word "Anomos". I'm a simple Christian believer. Peace to you
@@johnbrzykcy3076 Wa Alaykum Salam my dear fellow of the book, yeah it’s actually the same word in Greek used by Jesus (pbuh) and then by Paul, this was probably the point Dr Ataie wanted to make in the end of this video here but it was cut off unfortunately
@@As_412 And thanks for your kind response. Do you know the Biblical Greek language? I only know English but I wish I knew both Greek and Arabic ( and possibly Hebrew ). Unfortunately I'm getting old! So I need to rely on scholars who understand those languages. Peace of God to you and your family.
@@johnbrzykcy3076 unfortunately i dont speak neither of these languages except for prayers in Arabic and some Quran memorization, although i would also wish to be fluent in Arabic, Hebrew & Greek like dr ataie to read the scriptures in original language…but Bible hub English to greek helps a lot for Greek as they romanize the Greek words to make them readable. Best wishes for your family too
We need Dr Ali ataie for Daniel 9 , the Daniel 7 / son of men video was very informative already but there are some things that are still unclear in Daniel 9
They didn’t believe in a crucifixion or resurrection. They disbelieved in immaculate conception, and were more in line with the Qur’ān than most Sunnis & Shia today. If you think the Qur’ān supports immaculate conception, adam refers to all humankind in Q3:59. If you think the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ believed in immaculate conception, familiarize yourself with the Najran deputation, where the Prophet asks the Christian delegation from Yemen: ‘Do you not know that there is no son but he bears resemblance to his father?’ They replied, ‘Yes.’ He said: ‘Do you not know that our Lord maintains everything, guards and sustains it?’ They replied, ‘Yes.’ He said: ‘Do you not know that Jesus was conceived by a woman as women conceive, and she gave birth to him as women give birth, and fed him as children are fed? And he used to eat food, drink water, and answer the call of nature?’ They replied, ‘Yes.’ He said: ‘Then how can your claim be true.’ They could not answer and became silent.”-(Asbab Nuzul al-Quran by Allama Abul Hasan Ali Neshapuri, 2nd edition, p. 53) The Ebionites were on par with the Qur’ān 100%
What is your evidence for this interpretation of 3:59? This is entirely contrary to the Qur'ans phraseology, when Allah refers to mankind through Adam it's always with the phrase "بني آدم". Furthermore Surah Maryam very explicitly states "ولم يمسسني بشر", and on top of this Isa is always referred to as إبن مريم when the Islamic standard is always to attribute lineage to the father. Your interpretation isn't just unsupported, but is logically inconsistent.
for me, I still believe Prophet Isa has a special status as a "spirit from God," or Prophet Isa Ruhullah. In the Quran, Prophet Isa AS is referred to as a “spirit from God” in Surah An-Nisa (4:171). Tafsir Ibn Abbas: Ibn Abbas explains that the phrase “a spirit from Him” means that Prophet Isa AS was created by a command from Allah, without a father, similar to how Adam was created. This emphasizes that Prophet Isa AS is a creation of Allah and not divine. Tafsir Ibn Kathir: Ibn Kathir elaborates that “a spirit from Him” signifies that Prophet Isa AS was a special creation, brought into existence by Allah’s command. This term is used to honor Prophet Isa AS, but it does not imply divinity. Ibn Kathir also stresses that Prophet Isa AS was a messenger and servant of Allah, and not part of a divine trinity. Prophet Isa AS is mentioned in the Quran as having performed several miracles by the permission of Allah. 1. Miraculous Birth: Prophet Isa AS was born to Maryam (Mary) without a biological father, a miraculous event described in Surah Maryam (19:20-21) and Surah Al-Imran (3:47). 2. Speaking in the Cradle: As an infant, Prophet Isa AS spoke to defend his mother against accusations, as mentioned in Surah Maryam (19:29-30). 3. Creating Birds from Clay: Prophet Isa AS fashioned birds from clay, breathed into them, and they became living birds by Allah’s permission. This is mentioned in Surah Al-Imran (3:49) and Surah Al-Ma’idah (5:110). 4. Healing the Blind and the Leper: Prophet Isa AS healed those who were born blind and those with leprosy, as described in Surah Al-Imran (3:49) and Surah Al-Ma’idah (5:110). 5. Raising the Dead: Prophet Isa AS brought the dead back to life by Allah’s permission, as mentioned in Surah Al-Imran (3:49) and Surah Al-Ma’idah (5:110). 6. Knowledge of the Unseen: Prophet Isa AS had the ability to inform people of what they ate and what they stored in their houses, as described in Surah Al-Imran (3:49). 7. Table Spread with Food: Prophet Isa AS prayed for a table spread with food to be sent down from heaven, which is mentioned in Surah Al-Ma’idah (5:112-114).
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False. What you probably mean is that their interpretation of the crucifixion was different than that of the most Christians. Ebionites’ acceptance of the historical crucifixion and Islam’s outright denial of it mark a clear difference. Moreover, Ebionites were strict adherents to the Law of Moses, no alignment with Islam here. They rejected the virgin birth of Jesus and believed Jesus Christ was the final prophet. You guys have to reinvent history and live in a parallel world of conspiracy theories and victim-hood, because of the theological and historical blunders you have in the Quran. You seem ready to give up a well established doctrine in Islam like the virgin birth. So much desperation! Your "Ebionites" argument indirectly acknowledges that the Qur'an and Muhammad do not fit with the previous Jewish and Christian Scriptures or prophets. These are the very Scriptures that exist today and existed during Muhammad’s time, and the Qur'an had no problem confirming them.
Brother paul. No word of a lie. I was just reserching this EXACT topic as i want to know why black people are so passionate on Christianity when it is a white supremacy faith (how the Jews thought of the Kufi, the curse of ham, mark of cane, the slave bible, soul music in chruch etc...). But every missionary kept using the Ebionites as a deffence when their bible and beliefs are not the same as christains today.
There are ahadith that Moosa alayhi salaam (and some also point to Isaa alayhi salaam) was of brown complexion. The Ethiopians believe they are descendants from the marriage between Sulaymaan alayhi salaam and Balqees.
Respectfully, why do you consider Christianity as "a white supremacy faith" ? I'm a simple Christian believer and I consider Jesus as accepting people of all races and cultures. Peace and blessings to you..
@@johnbrzykcy3076 what did Jesus call the gentiles in the Bible? What did the Jews think of the Kufi? What is the curse of ham? What is the mark of cane? What did Constantine do to those of colour? What is the slave bible? I could do this all day...
@@TheDragonaf1Okay. No problem. I have to be honest and tell you that I don't know the answers to some of your questions. So I need to look up those scriptures. Regarding Jesus' attitude towards "gentiles", I usually try to look at the context surrounding all of Jesus' life and teachings. The Roman soldiers were gentiles, correct? And when a centurion came to Jesus for help, Jesus said to the crowd "I have not found greater faith in all of Israel" ! ( From the Gospel of Matthew 8:10 ) Would Jesus have said such if He rejected the gentiles? According to the Gospel of Matthew, Jesus was amazed by the centurion's faith . So I don't think Jesus necessarily rejected gentiles. I could be wrong. And I appreciate your comments because I'm no scholar. By the way, what does the word "kufi" mean ? Do you mind if I ask, do you not see any compassion or love from Jesus towards people of other races ? By the way, I desire no confrontation. I'm open-minded to listen. Respectfully from Florida USA .
I would love to see Dr Ali Atai vs Bart Ehrman(representing Christianity for a change) debate. If I get 20 likes Ill start working on setting it up and reach out to them see what they think.
@@moafro6524 But does Bart Ehrman actually represent "Christianity" or do I misunderstand your comments? I've heard that Ehrman believes in the historical authenticity of Jesus' crucifixion but does he believe in Jesus' resurrection? Because both Jesus' crucifixion and resurrection are the foundational aspects of Christianity ( Orthodox Christianity ). However I'm not disregarding your suggestion. It could be a good discussion. By the way, I'm not a Muslim but I'm a simple Christian believer. I respect the strong discipline of Muslims regarding prayer and good deeds and I'm trying to understand Islam better. Peace of God to you and your family
@@johnbrzykcy3076 John, Thank you for your kind words Dr. Ehrman was once a Bible-thumping evangelical Christian. He believed the Bible was the Word of God. After decades of studying and researching the New Testament, he found the Bible to be an unreliable narration of the life and teachings of Jesus Christ, and he became an atheist. He believes that the crucifixion historically took place, but he doesn’t believe in the resurrection; he doesn’t believe in God anymore. This fact about the unreliability of the Bible as an honest witness to history was once only known in academic circles, but now it has become public knowledge. None of the biblical prophets, including Jesus (peace be upon him)-whom we consider to be one of the mightiest prophets of God, born of a virgin, who performed many miracles, and whose second coming we await-worshipped a triune God. They all worshipped only one God. This aligns with the Islamic faith, which is a very simple faith: worship the Creator alone without associating anything with Him (i.e., animals, humans, angels, statues, monkeys, etc.), the only truly monotheistic religion left on earth. So worship God alone and accept the messenger sent to us, which is Muhammad (peace be upon him). Only one man claimed to be sent to all of mankind, and that was Muhammad (peace be upon him). Obviously, all the miracles the prophets performed are the evidence that led the masses to follow them. So the question begs: where is our miracle? We say that the Quran is our miracle. The Quran’s miraculous nature lies in many aspects, including its linguistic perfection, its consistency despite being revealed over 23 years, and its detailed knowledge of natural phenomena, history, and the future, much of which has only been verified centuries later. It challenges anyone to produce even a single chapter like it (Quran 2:23), and no one has ever succeeded. The Quran’s authenticity is further affirmed by its preservation. From the time it was revealed, the Quran has remained unchanged, with every letter and word intact, a claim no other religious text can make with the same certainty. Anyone who is interested in learning about a faith should start with the main text of that faith. If you ask me how to learn about Islam, I would say: get a copy of the Quran and see if the teachings and writing contained within are man-made or clear, inimitable instructions from the Creator to us. Jesus (peace be upon him) made his mission clear in the New Testament: "I was only sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." Muhammad (peace be upon him) said, "I was sent to the whole of mankind, and I am the last prophet; there will be none after me." So obey God through the prophet He sent to you, give in charity, pray, honor your parents, be kind to your neighbors-simple, comprehensive ways of life that, if we all follow, will lead to peace and prosperity in this world and Jannah (Paradise) in the hereafter. May the Almighty guide us all to His straight path and keep us firmly on it. Ameen.
@@moafro6524 I appreciate your time and effort in explaining Islam and the Quran. I haven't read the Quran yet but I guess I should read it. Especially if you say it's a "miracle". I appreciate your honesty but I still stand upon the foundational aspects of Christianity, which are Jesus' incarnation, His crucifixion and His resurrection. Without these aspects, Christianity should have crumbled 2,000 years ago because it becomes meaningless to me. Where does Muhammad say that he "was sent to the whole of mankind"? In a Hadith? And what does it mean that "Muhammad " himself was sent ? Does he mean he was sent with God's revelation? I know Jesus said He was sent to the lost sheep of "the house of Israel". Yet Jesus encountered gentiles such as the Roman centurion. Jesus was amazed by this Roman soldier's faith. Why would Jesus praise this gentile soldier? Jesus said "I am the good Shepherd". That statement must have been referring to all lost sheep. However I could be wrong. I've been listening to Blogging Theology for over 2 years but I'm still confused about Islam ( and Muhammad ). But I might visit a mosque and talk with an Islamic scholar. Again I appreciate your kind response. I respect the strong discipline of Muslims regarding prayer and good deeds. Respectfully from Florida USA
Brother Paul , 2 things : Quran Sura Maida , is it the Last Supper? When Allah said , ok I Am sending down the food , but if they disobeyed after it , they will be given such a punishment, which is never given before! I think , that’s why Prophet Eessa was ascended up from them . And then they repented, so Allah is sending him back ? And please don’t stop No design 🙏
I’ve also researched and Salah, father of Eber was a Muslim Ebionite. Islam fully aligns with The Ebionites. Paul was a Greek Arab. Acts 13:1, Romans 16:6,9. He was a Roman Citizen with authority of Rome to kill Jews. Gaining citizenship would mostly be due to relation of Herod. In 333-100BC a mass conversion of Nabateans to Second Temple Judaism was seen. A Nabatean Temple is found in Pizzoli, Italy, where Paul traveled contemporary to his time. Paul went to Arabia, contrary to where Yehoshua stated. We know, Arabia was Pre-Islamic and full of polytheistic Arabs. He became a part of Benjamin due to Benjamin taking over The Kingship and Priesthood during the Hasmonean Dynasty. Pharisees were Persians, Babylonians, Rechabites, Edomite and Egyptians with some remnants of Israel. The original zealots broke off from The Pharisees and Sadducees. Hence, them knowing Yehoshua was revealing them as false and son’s of Satan. Paul as Simon The Magus would have him marrying in Agrippa, The Nabatean.
Paul was from Banu Israel who was a citizen of Rome, therefore, identified as Roman. He will be punished the most on judgement day and is now being punished in his grave
Isn't it sad that almost everything we know about the Ebionites is based on conjecture, on guessing and on so little truth that Ali Ataie has to put conjecture and guessing together and calls these lies "his truth" ? That is pathetic. Give it up, Ali.
I respect Dr Ataie because of his scholarly knowledge and his way of explaining things. However I'm a simple Christian believer and I know very little about early Christianity, especially the Ebionites. ..I still stand on the foundational aspects of Christianity, which are the Incarnation of Jesus, His crucifixion and His resurrection. Plus Jesus' wonderful parables of The Good Samaritan and The Prodigal Son. I don't think the Quran has any teachings similar to these parables, does it ? No disrespect intended to Muslims. I'm no scholar of anything. Respectfully...
That's what I heard that they did this based on John the Baptist and Lord Jesus. But it is written that John ate locus and honey. Doesn't sound vegetarian to me.
Islam is a faith that, like Christianity, recognizes Jesus, but considers him a prophet rather than a divine figure. Muhammad's wife, Khadija, was part of a Christian community that shared this view, and her brother was a Christian priest from a group of Arab Christians who also believed that Jesus was a prophet, not divine. Muhammad adopted this belief, proclaiming himself a prophet in the same line as Jesus, but asserting that he was the final prophet.
It was her cousin, not brother. I don’t recall any evidence eluding to Khadijah RA being part of Christian community. And if you read the story the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ met the cousin of Khadijah RA after the start of his Prophethood then the cousin passed away a few days later.
I think it's the only name we know of them but we're not sure how they called themselves cuz as I understand it (tho I'm just a layman) we have no writings from them
Was Isa a Jew from the tribe of Judah, or was he from a different tribe from among Bani Israel? If he was a Jew then what is the evidence from the Quran and Hadith?
Bani israel does not mean Jew. Judah is from the twelve tribes. Allah did not name their revelation or their so called "Judaism" it's their tribalistic and nationalistic narssicism. They made Allah a tribal God from them only. Second, Issa (as) was an israelite prophet sent to israelites. Third, he was in palestine so He was from them and it does not matter at all.
Im a simple man i know simple english. Watching 2 Dr speaker using big words about old people and books and writing that i have no knowledge off. Cant understand anything. 😪 It would have been better to use simple English to get straight to the point since the audience is the glob ❤
Paul is known to be a lier, he admitted it himself and went against the brother of Jesus (as) who was known to be a pious man, yet christians rely mostly on Paul's teachings for their religion. This is so crazy, I don't know how they can accept that
I'm a simple Christian believer but I don't "rely mostly on Paul's teachings". To be honest, I've seldom read the books by Saint Paul in the New Testament. I'm also trying to understand Islam better. Peace to you
@@johnbrzykcy3076 If you believe in the crucifiction, so you fully rely on paul teaching. The true Jesus apostles didn't believe on the death on a cross of their Rabbi, nor they believed in paul teachings, who was rejected by them. The huge issue with the roman empire religion, it is the Words of God, completly collapsed because their greek tradition and written. Hebrew, aramean and arabic are deeply rooted in the same language, prophetic one, so in faith (believes).
@@victoremman4639 Respectfully, if Jesus' followers didn't believe in Jesus' crucifixion, then why ( according to the 4 Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John ) did Jesus acknowledge his death in their presence? And Jesus mission was basically the journey to Jerusalem where He would submit obediently to the will of God the Father. I'm no scholar but the foundational aspects of Christianity ( Orthodox Christianity ) are Jesus' incarnation ( coming in the form of a human being), His crucifixion and His resurrection. By the way, no disrespect intended. I've been listening to Blogging Theology for over 2 years ! So I'm trying to understand Islam better; especially the beliefs regarding Jesus the prophet. I don't understand your sentence which starts with "The huge issue...". Can you clarify? I appreciate your comments. Respectfully from Florida USA
@@warrensimon3012 Amen. And may God provide me with motivation to learn and study and do good ( because I lack in each of those areas ). I appreciate your comments. Respectfully...
PAUL OF TARSUS AS A WOLF AMONGST THE SHEEP Paul of Tarsus, also known as the Apostle Paul, is a controversial figure in Christian history. Some view him as a wolf among sheep, while others see him as a genuine apostle of Jesus Christ. - Matthew 10: 16: "Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; so be wise as serpents and innocent as doves." - Luke 10: 3: "Go your way; behold, I send you out as lambs among wolves." In this teaching, Jesus: 1. Acknowledges Danger : Recognizes that his followers will face threats and hostility from the world (symbolized by wolves). 2. Encourages Wisdom : Advises his followers to be wise and discerning, like serpents, to navigate these challenges. 3. Emphasizes Innocence : Reminds them to maintain their innocence and purity of heart, like doves, despite the surrounding danger. "... like sheep among wolves " : 1. Deception : That Paul deceived the early Christian communities by introducing his own teachings, which differed from Jesus' original message. 2. Manipulation: Paul's writings show a skilled rhetorician who used persuasion and manipulation to achieve his goals. 3. Contradictions : Paul's teachings contradict Jesus' teachings on issues like law and grace, faith and works. 4. Self-Appointed Apostle : Paul claimed apostleship without being one of the original twelve apostles or being directly appointed by Jesus the Christ. Claiming as Genuine Apostle : 1. Divine Calling : Paul claimed a direct encounter with the risen Jesus, which commissioned him as an apostle (Galatians 1: 15-17). 2. Claim in Consistency with Jesus' teachings : Paul's teachings on love, forgiveness, and salvation align with Jesus' core message. 3. Early Christian Acceptance : The early Christian communities, including some of the apostles, accepted Paul as a fellow apostle and missionary (Acts 9: 26-31, Galatians 2: 7-10). 4. Theological Contributions*: Paul's writings provide significant theological insights, such as the concept of grace and the unity of Jew and Gentile in Christ. These perspectives are not mutually exclusive, and Paul's legacy is complex and multifaceted. Some see him as a genuine apostle who made mistakes, while others view him as a well-intentioned but misguided figure that formed Christianity as it is today.
Pure speculation. The New Testament books were affirmed in the first century. We know very little about the Ebionites but a lot more about the polytheistic gnostics, who are more the spiritual precursors of Islam, which quotes a number of their books.
Respectfully, I don't understand what you meant when you said that the "polytheistic gnostics, who are more the spiritual precursors of Islam ". Can you explain what you said? I'm not Muslim. Peace to you...
“The New Testament books were affirmed in the first century” Oh really where? According to the earliest sources the texts you have now aren’t from the 1st century. Papias for example mentioned Matthew & Mark writing sayings of Jesus only that’s it, Matthew wrote the sayings in chronological order in Hebrew & Mark wrote the sayings in a random order. The texts of Matthew & Mark you have now are not lists of sayings, but rather entire story narratives & written in Greek originally (not translated into Greek but originally written in Greek so not the same text)
I strongly hold the belief that the early followers of Muhammad including Muhammed himself were mostly vegetarian similar to the Jesus and his followers, such the Ebionites. We will return to Gods idillic states before sin, no pain or bloodshed for both man and animal.
Man, I cannot believe all the evil that that man committed. And what is mind blowing is people insisting on believing his lies even after he was exposed. Teuky Paul is one of the worst persons in himan history for all the people he misled.
Your position gives credence to the Jewish belief that to be Jewish is a matter of ethnicity not faith. We as Muslims don't accept this position. It is tribalism and one of their sins to believe that they were a "nation" and chosen because of their race.
the shiea rafidh 1.0 and wahabism salafist political movement 2.0 aka shiea wahabi 2.0 and the transgenderism 3.0 aka ttt takfiri 3.0 being taught in schools in u s Canada Europe and Australia are inter connected and correlated origins from the basement of Babylonia
We need him back paul,we miss him so much. your channel is packed with gems as precious as rubies, may Allah (swt) increase all of us in goodness and faith, ameen.
I too belong to KISS CLUB so THANK YOU BOTH😊🎉❤
Im a simple person. I see Dr. Ali Ataie notification I click
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The righteous despise the unjust; the wicked despise the godly.
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The man the myth the legend Ali ataie, can't skip a single of his videos
Stop praising people, are you a sufi?
@@CarlosGarcia-wh5bwIt's called love and appreciation.
@@CarlosGarcia-wh5bwThat is dumbest thing I have read
Dr Ali Ataie in the notification, I click. Absolute son of a man he is, can't miss his conversation for the world!
Br Paul we need another interview with Dr. Ali Ataie it's been a while since the last interview about Zionism we need an interview about the miraculous nature of the Quran and the signs of the hour
seriously
This is a clip from another video… yet I still watch with eager ears. Keep these coming brother Paul. This content is very much appreciated
Salam to both of you. Good to see Dr Ali back here...
The Dr's knowledge is astounding
I am a simple man, i am not intelligent enough to keep up with Dr Ali. MaashaAllah, may Allah grant him more knowledge!
I'm a simple Christian believer. I also lack ability to understand many scholarly discussions. Especially by Dr Ataie.
However I think our Creator understands our limitations. He looks at our hearts.
Peace of God to you
@@johnbrzykcy3076Our limitations yes, he understands, does he put limitation on himself or is it possible, for God to not know
@@Dont-worry1618 I don't quite understand your questions? I believe God is all-knowing. So He knows our hearts and our desires and our intentions. He knows when we sin. He knows when we pretend to love Him but we actually are hypocrites !
Can you clarify what you are asking ? I apologize for my lack of understanding.
Respectfully
@@johnbrzykcy3076 The christian god forgets, the Christian god dies and is weak. These characteristics is not what god has
@@Dont-worry1618 Respectfully, I agree with you that these are not God's characteristics. However I don't see Jesus Christ as forgetful or "weak". However I do believe that Jesus Christ did die on a cross. I don't see His crucifixion as a symbol of weakness but as Jesus' ultimate obedience to God the Father. Because God had a plan to save us. We are the ones who are weak and selfish. We are not infallible.
Of course a "weak" god could never save a weak human being. What you see as a weakness in Jesus, I see as love ! God's ultimate love for His creation.
I could be wrong. But if Jesus was indeed "weak" because He died for us, then Christianity becomes meaningless to me.
No disrespect intended. Because only God is all-knowing.
I appreciate your honesty. However I don't see Jesus' crucifixion as a sign of weakness. Even a Roman soldier was amazed by Jesus' crucifixion.
I wonder what that Roman soldier saw ? What did he feel ?
Anyhow, no disrespect intended to you. I'm on a journey too. We all need God's guidance.
Peace
Dr Ali brother knowledge really amaze me - May Allah grant us a jannah
I’m a simple man, I see a video from Paul, I stop. I click. I learn. I smile. I leave.
😂🤣
You mean like "in to the left ear and out by the right ear" ?
You mean like "in to the left ear and out by the right ear" ?
I'm a simple Christi an man I don't listen to every video on Blogging Theology but I feel like I'm slowly learning about Islam.
However I must be honest. Sometimes I do "smile" but at other times I feel sad. Because I consider Jesus as the ultimate example of God's love for us. And I don't see this consideration regarding God's love in the book of the Quran.
I could be wrong and I have no intention to be disrespectful to Muslims. Muslims have their good reasons for believing in the Quran and Christians have their own good perceptions of Jesus Christ as the Lord and Savior.
So I'm not here to necessarily refute Islamic beliefs. No way.
I do appreciate this channel because God is the Almighty Creator of all individuals ( whether we profess Islam or Christianity or even Atheism ).
I also admit I struggle to understand early Christianity. So I'm open-minded to this video.
Blessings and the peace of God to Muslims and Christians.
@@johnbrzykcy3076
I choose to be Muslim because I’m an evidendalist. I studied comparative religion and specifically looked for hard objective concrete evidence rather than chase down moral abiding principles of 21st century standard. Once beyond that, I was more than happy to be a Muslim for the right reason that made objective sense to me.
May Allah Bless and Reward Both of you in this Life and in the Hereafter.
When I see Dr Ali I watch and listen his speech
Thanks
Many thanks!
@@BloggingTheologyThere also the impact of the BAR COCHBA REBELLION 135AD. Between 70-135AD there was a guerilla war in Palestine which was almost a defeat for Rome. The fight was to cleanse the Temple Mt. of the Temple of Jupiter.
This caused intense persecution of Jews and Jewish Christians throughout the empire. This is why the gentile Christians wanted to change the Jewish language and customs. The QUARTODECIMAN CONTROVERSY was between Anicetus of Rome and Polycarp of Smyrna (John's disciple) about changing the celebration of pascha to create "Easter". After the rebellion the "antisemitism" began to become systemic in order to protect the gentiles from persecution.
@@BloggingTheologyOne other point Dr Ataie may want to explore is the name Ebion, it's the root EBN which can be poor or stone. This is a Hebrew pun. For example in Matthew John Baptist says God can take these stones and make sons of Abraham. In Hebrew it's a pun, take these Eben and make Benim Abraham. We also have the famous Peter as the Eben, or not, in Matthew. However, Peter doesn't apply this singularly to himself in 1 or 2 Peter instead he calls the assembly living Ebenim, stones.
So, it's possible that the Ebionites were using this pun in conjunction with "Blessed are the poor" from the beatitudes ".
جزيل كل الشكر اخي بول على ما تقوم به من عمل صالح للدعوة الاسلامية .
Without a doubt, listening to this episode is necessary for anyone who sincerely wants to learn the truth. May Allah SWT reward you for all your efforts.
Asalamualikum to both of u..
"I require mercy,not sacrifice"...very well said..
Indeed an intellectual discussion..
Jazakallah 👍
Dr. Atai, good to hear and see you, brother. Inshallah always wise 🙏
He needs to start writing books with the knowledge he has mashallah
Dr. Ataie, stands alone as the foremost scholar who has a command of Islam, Judaism and Christianity and more importantly their historical development and languages. I could listen to him for hours
He was the pure soul from in the beginning. Which was indwelling in all souls. During creation. All were all one in this universal soul.
Very informative discussion by two legends.
We missed a good old lecture from Dr. Ali. We need a good 4 hour talk, please 🙏 ❤
The NT refer to them as ‘the poor’ Jesus said, “ take this money to the poor”. The second church the Roman Catholic Church annihilated them when the church spread through the Middle East. This group kept to themselves. NZ.
Thank you brothers. Blessed!
Very interesting so much knowledge hard to digest.
Astounding
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I think it's more probable that irenaus is saying it's a redacted version of the gospel of matthew just to downplay the diversity of ebionite beliefs and bolster the gospel of matthew's legitimacy, it's more likely that the ebionites had their own book (gospel of the ebionites, which was a sayings gospel of jesus). But Irenaus just said they had a version of the gospel of matthew to further validate the gospel of matthew as accepted scripture, *even in their heresy, the ebionites still accepted our proto-orthodox (pauline) books* That's the kind of thing it seems irenaus was going for
Irenaus [and papias] was wrong in his description of the gospel of matthew, when he said it was written in the dialect of the hebrews and that it was "The oracles" because a) the gospel of matthew we have today and that was circulating in irenaus' time was originally written in greek not hebrew, and the gospel of matthew can't be called "the oracles" (sayings gospel; which is a gospel that is mostly composed of sayings of jesus) because it is not a sayings gospel, it is filled with more narrative than it is with quotes of jesus.
So whatever papias and irenaus were describing was not the gospel of matthew that we have today, more plausibly the gospel of the ebionites that the ebionites had with them (a sayings gospel, written in aramaic or hebrew) which irenaus pretended was the gospel of matthew that was around in his time (same as the one we have today) in order to bolster its credibility
Conclusion:
1 Gospel of the ebionites exists in 1st-2nd century and possessed by ebionites
2 Irenaus pretends that the gospel of matthew that was circulating in his time (same as what we have today) is the gospel of the ebionites by giving the gospel of matthew the same characteristics as that of the gospel of the ebionites (hebrew dialect and being an oracle) and by replacing it with matthew's name ("gospel of matthew" not gospel of ebionites) in order to bolster the gospel of matthew's credibility; since the gospel of hebrews was a 1st century gospel, irenaus wants to show that the gospel of matthew was authored early
3 Irinaus sees/hears the ebionites with their gospel of ebionites, the very book that he replaced, and pretends that they had a redacted version of the gospel of matthew
Not sure what it means but I saw Paul in a dream wearing the Keffiyeh around his neck & holding palestinian children who were crying, and there were a lot of children there. 😢
is he coming back on the channel soon ❤
Good job Dr. Ali
The **Hawariyun** (or **Hawariyyun**) are known as the disciples of Prophet Isa (Jesus) in Islamic tradition. The term "Hawari" is derived from the Arabic root meaning "to purify," symbolizing their purity and dedication.
In the Quran (Quran 3:52-53), The Hawariyun are described as faithful followers who, despite tremendous difficulty, supported Prophet Isa in spreading God's message.
The Ebionites and Nazarenes were primarily Jewish groups, so they would have been ethnically Jewish. They lived in and around Canaan region during the first few centuries CE12.
Regarding the language they spoke, it is likely that they used Aramaic as their primary language. Aramaic was the common language of the Jewish people in Canaan region at that time.
I'm not Muslim so I never heard of the "Hawariyun" disciples of Jesus. So I appreciate your information. I need to study this historical group.
Respectfully...
Why the video is cut off in the middle of the conversation? Dr. Ali's explanation is not finished yet.
This is a short clip from the full video
Brother Paul please invite Dr.Barrie Wilson to discuss on his book .
'Paul vs James the battle that shaped Christianity and changed the world' .
Im a latter day Ebonite .Dont believe that Christ is the son of God, well at least not in the usual sense .Nor do I believe in a Trinity . The conversations between you and Dr Ataie are some of the best on RUclips .Thankyou
Congratulations to you for rejecting the A-B-O-M-I-N-A-T-I-O-N called the doctrine of the Trinity and for rejecting Jesus as God.
We have a common ground on the most important subject - the subject of God.
I invite you to reason.
Jesus used to reason?
Won't you reason?
I invite you to now come to the of Jesus completely.
The religious historian and philosopher Han-Joachim Schoeps says: “Here is a paradox of world-historical proportions: Jewish Christianity indeed disappeared within the Christian church, but was PRESERVED in Islam.”
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Backed up by the preaching and practice of Jesus of the Bible.
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"There is CONSENSUS among biblical scholars that Jesus, to all historical probability, did NOT consider himself as the incarnation of the second person of a Trinitarian God. NOWHERE did Jesus teach a Trinitarian doctrine. As one would expect from a pious Jewish rabbi, he believed in ONE GOD and strictly REFUSED to be equated with God. Jesus saw himself as a divinely authorized MESSENGER ... [and] his contemporaries [saw] Jesus as a PROPHET..." (Perry Schmidt-Leukel, Religious Pluralism, 152)
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At the end of the day you reject the last prophet. So doesn't matter at all whether you're an "Ebionite" or not. You don't even have the scripture they read.
@@snakejuce To be honest, I struggle to accept the belief that Muhammad was the last prophet. Of course I don't know much about Islam and almost nothing about Muhammad. So I could be wrong.
I'm just a simple Christian believer. I'm trying to understand the beliefs of Muslims better. So far I stand on the foundational aspects of Christianity, which I observe from the life and teachings of Jesus Christ.
No disrespect intended to you. I'm no scholar of anything.
Respectfully....
It was just a manner of speaking .Of course I'm not an Ebionite in a formal sense . I dont reject the last prophet, PBUH I just have a strong relationship with Jesus .If you want to put me in hell for that go ahead
@@johnbrzykcy3076 Well John, you said it yourself. You know nothing about the man. Start from there. Martin Lings wrote a biography on him, and there's videos online if you prefer video.
When I see Paul and Ali get together I click 🤓
Thanks once again for this interesting point of view. I wonder if there is an authority on histories comparisons between Islam and Hindu beliefs. There is a zeal of the converted undertone to these talks from Mr. Williams. Perhaps a wider gaze would be a nice change?
fantastic video as always, may Allah increase your status in the hereafter. Please do a video on spherical earth or flat earth. I have seen Dr. Ali holds a position of flat earth. I think it would be better for us if you do video on why many muslim scholars held and still hold this view. May Allah reward you for all your efforts.
ChatGPT did not seem to agree that Irenaeus and Cerinthus had a similar view and said that Irenaeus endorsed that Jesus died on the cross.
@paul williams: is there anything from around the same time about theology of Jamesonians? What did they believe in? Were they the followers of the truth or of sth that is closer to truth? Do we really have information abt Ebionites and Jamesonians only from the sources of their opposition?
Great information. !!😊
Please keep on the good work. Immense benefits Insha Allah ✨
Paul calls himself ,,Anomos” in Greek , which is the same word Jesus (as) used in Matthew 7:15-23 in Vers 23 about people that will come and teach Lawlesness , (Greek anomos)
Thanks for the information. I tried to study Biblical Greek but understanding it eluded me. I need to check out that word "Anomos".
I'm a simple Christian believer. Peace to you
@@johnbrzykcy3076 Wa Alaykum Salam my dear fellow of the book, yeah it’s actually the same word in Greek used by Jesus (pbuh) and then by Paul, this was probably the point Dr Ataie wanted to make in the end of this video here but it was cut off unfortunately
@@As_412 And thanks for your kind response. Do you know the Biblical Greek language?
I only know English but I wish I knew both Greek and Arabic ( and possibly Hebrew ).
Unfortunately I'm getting old! So I need to rely on scholars who understand those languages.
Peace of God to you and your family.
Where do Paul called himself as Anomos?
@@johnbrzykcy3076 unfortunately i dont speak neither of these languages except for prayers in Arabic and some Quran memorization, although i would also wish to be fluent in Arabic, Hebrew & Greek like dr ataie to read the scriptures in original language…but Bible hub English to greek helps a lot for Greek as they romanize the Greek words to make them readable.
Best wishes for your family too
i have also heard by you about Ebionites
What is the name of the bart ehrman book he mentioned? And the ine dr aly mentioned?
We need Dr Ali ataie for Daniel 9 , the Daniel 7 / son of men video was very informative already but there are some things that are still unclear in Daniel 9
i think there is a second part of this great interview
@blogging theology please I basic books for the study of Christianity
Do you mean "The Way"?
Where is the link for the whole episode?
Hey Paul, can you invite Dr. Ali once again, this time for Daniel 9?
They didn’t believe in a crucifixion or resurrection. They disbelieved in immaculate conception, and were more in line with the Qur’ān than most Sunnis & Shia today. If you think the Qur’ān supports immaculate conception, adam refers to all humankind in Q3:59. If you think the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ believed in immaculate conception, familiarize yourself with the Najran deputation, where the Prophet asks the Christian delegation from Yemen: ‘Do you not know that there is no son but he bears resemblance to his father?’ They replied, ‘Yes.’ He said: ‘Do you not know that our Lord maintains everything, guards and sustains it?’ They replied, ‘Yes.’ He said: ‘Do you not know that Jesus was conceived by a woman as women conceive, and she gave birth to him as women give birth, and fed him as children are fed? And he used to eat food, drink water, and answer the call of nature?’ They replied, ‘Yes.’ He said: ‘Then how can your claim be true.’ They could not answer and became silent.”-(Asbab Nuzul al-Quran by Allama Abul Hasan Ali Neshapuri, 2nd edition, p. 53)
The Ebionites were on par with the Qur’ān 100%
What is your evidence for this interpretation of 3:59? This is entirely contrary to the Qur'ans phraseology, when Allah refers to mankind through Adam it's always with the phrase "بني آدم". Furthermore Surah Maryam very explicitly states "ولم يمسسني بشر", and on top of this Isa is always referred to as إبن مريم when the Islamic standard is always to attribute lineage to the father. Your interpretation isn't just unsupported, but is logically inconsistent.
for me, I still believe Prophet Isa has a special status as a "spirit from God," or Prophet Isa Ruhullah. In the Quran, Prophet Isa AS is referred to as a “spirit from God” in Surah An-Nisa (4:171).
Tafsir Ibn Abbas:
Ibn Abbas explains that the phrase “a spirit from Him” means that Prophet Isa AS was created by a command from Allah, without a father, similar to how Adam was created. This emphasizes that Prophet Isa AS is a creation of Allah and not divine.
Tafsir Ibn Kathir:
Ibn Kathir elaborates that “a spirit from Him” signifies that Prophet Isa AS was a special creation, brought into existence by Allah’s command. This term is used to honor Prophet Isa AS, but it does not imply divinity. Ibn Kathir also stresses that Prophet Isa AS was a messenger and servant of Allah, and not part of a divine trinity.
Prophet Isa AS is mentioned in the Quran as having performed several miracles by the permission of Allah.
1. Miraculous Birth:
Prophet Isa AS was born to Maryam (Mary) without a biological father, a miraculous event described in Surah Maryam (19:20-21) and Surah Al-Imran (3:47).
2. Speaking in the Cradle:
As an infant, Prophet Isa AS spoke to defend his mother against accusations, as mentioned in Surah Maryam (19:29-30).
3. Creating Birds from Clay:
Prophet Isa AS fashioned birds from clay, breathed into them, and they became living birds by Allah’s permission. This is mentioned in Surah Al-Imran (3:49) and Surah Al-Ma’idah (5:110).
4. Healing the Blind and the Leper:
Prophet Isa AS healed those who were born blind and those with leprosy, as described in Surah Al-Imran (3:49) and Surah Al-Ma’idah (5:110).
5. Raising the Dead:
Prophet Isa AS brought the dead back to life by Allah’s permission, as mentioned in Surah Al-Imran (3:49) and Surah Al-Ma’idah (5:110).
6. Knowledge of the Unseen:
Prophet Isa AS had the ability to inform people of what they ate and what they stored in their houses, as described in Surah Al-Imran (3:49).
7. Table Spread with Food:
Prophet Isa AS prayed for a table spread with food to be sent down from heaven, which is mentioned in Surah Al-Ma’idah (5:112-114).
The structure of clay molecules has an important role in the evolution of life, from amino acids to single-cell organisms. These properties make clay minerals significant in the chemical evolution that led to the formation of single-cell organisms from simple organic molecules.
Catalytic Properties:
Clay minerals, such as montmorillonite, have surfaces that can catalyze the formation of organic molecules. They can help in the polymerization of amino acids into proteins and nucleotides into RNA.
Protection and Concentration:
Clays can protect organic molecules from ultraviolet radiation and other environmental hazards. They also concentrate these molecules, increasing the chances of chemical reactions that lead to more complex structures.
Template for Replication:
The layered structure of clays can act as a template for the replication of RNA and other polymers. This is essential for the development of genetic material and the evolution of early life forms.
Chiral Selection:
Clays can affect the chirality (handedness) of amino acids, which is important for the formation of functional proteins. This selective process is crucial for the development of life as we know it.
@@happygreenland37 I'm a simple Christian believer but I appreciate your information.
Respectfully from Florida USA
Peace of God to you
False. What you probably mean is that their interpretation of the crucifixion was different than that of the most Christians. Ebionites’ acceptance of the historical crucifixion and Islam’s outright denial of it mark a clear difference. Moreover, Ebionites were strict adherents to the Law of Moses, no alignment with Islam here. They rejected the virgin birth of Jesus and believed Jesus Christ was the final prophet.
You guys have to reinvent history and live in a parallel world of conspiracy theories and victim-hood, because of the theological and historical blunders you have in the Quran. You seem ready to give up a well established doctrine in Islam like the virgin birth. So much desperation! Your "Ebionites" argument indirectly acknowledges that the Qur'an and Muhammad do not fit with the previous Jewish and Christian Scriptures or prophets. These are the very Scriptures that exist today and existed during Muhammad’s time, and the Qur'an had no problem confirming them.
Why does it end abruptly?
When Dr atai book going to come?
Full video link ?
Allahumma Barik.
Brother paul. No word of a lie. I was just reserching this EXACT topic as i want to know why black people are so passionate on Christianity when it is a white supremacy faith (how the Jews thought of the Kufi, the curse of ham, mark of cane, the slave bible, soul music in chruch etc...). But every missionary kept using the Ebionites as a deffence when their bible and beliefs are not the same as christains today.
So the early ebionites were african?
There are ahadith that Moosa alayhi salaam (and some also point to Isaa alayhi salaam) was of brown complexion. The Ethiopians believe they are descendants from the marriage between Sulaymaan alayhi salaam and Balqees.
Respectfully, why do you consider Christianity as "a white supremacy faith" ?
I'm a simple Christian believer and I consider Jesus as accepting people of all races and cultures.
Peace and blessings to you..
@@johnbrzykcy3076 what did Jesus call the gentiles in the Bible? What did the Jews think of the Kufi? What is the curse of ham? What is the mark of cane? What did Constantine do to those of colour? What is the slave bible? I could do this all day...
@@TheDragonaf1Okay. No problem. I have to be honest and tell you that I don't know the answers to some of your questions. So I need to look up those scriptures.
Regarding Jesus' attitude towards "gentiles", I usually try to look at the context surrounding all of Jesus' life and teachings. The Roman soldiers were gentiles, correct? And when a centurion came to Jesus for help, Jesus said to the crowd "I have not found greater faith in all of Israel" ! ( From the Gospel of Matthew 8:10 )
Would Jesus have said such if He rejected the gentiles? According to the Gospel of Matthew, Jesus was amazed by the centurion's faith . So I don't think Jesus necessarily rejected gentiles.
I could be wrong. And I appreciate your comments because I'm no scholar.
By the way, what does the word "kufi" mean ?
Do you mind if I ask, do you not see any compassion or love from Jesus towards people of other races ?
By the way, I desire no confrontation. I'm open-minded to listen.
Respectfully from Florida USA .
Looking good, Paul! What happened to your regular background? WHERE ARE THE BOOKS??!
this is part of a longer older video. Notice it was before he grew beard
@@DAWAHTIME1 Ah, ok. I was wondering!
Sakari (male name) Häkkinen, is a finnish diocesan dean for the Lutheran church in Finland. He also interestingly says Bible is not Gods word.
Did anyone see the pro christian ad in the video
Missing the beard Paul 😅
Masha Allah.
I would love to see Dr Ali Atai vs Bart Ehrman(representing Christianity for a change) debate. If I get 20 likes Ill start working on setting it up and reach out to them see what they think.
Maybe better of an academic discussion than debate because both are academicians.
@@Anna_Idham yes yes I like
@@moafro6524 But does Bart Ehrman actually represent "Christianity" or do I misunderstand your comments? I've heard that Ehrman believes in the historical authenticity of Jesus' crucifixion but does he believe in Jesus' resurrection? Because both Jesus' crucifixion and resurrection are the foundational aspects of Christianity ( Orthodox Christianity ).
However I'm not disregarding your suggestion. It could be a good discussion.
By the way, I'm not a Muslim but I'm a simple Christian believer. I respect the strong discipline of Muslims regarding prayer and good deeds and I'm trying to understand Islam better.
Peace of God to you and your family
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John, Thank you for your kind words
Dr. Ehrman was once a Bible-thumping evangelical Christian. He believed the Bible was the Word of God. After decades of studying and researching the New Testament, he found the Bible to be an unreliable narration of the life and teachings of Jesus Christ, and he became an atheist. He believes that the crucifixion historically took place, but he doesn’t believe in the resurrection; he doesn’t believe in God anymore. This fact about the unreliability of the Bible as an honest witness to history was once only known in academic circles, but now it has become public knowledge.
None of the biblical prophets, including Jesus (peace be upon him)-whom we consider to be one of the mightiest prophets of God, born of a virgin, who performed many miracles, and whose second coming we await-worshipped a triune God. They all worshipped only one God. This aligns with the Islamic faith, which is a very simple faith: worship the Creator alone without associating anything with Him (i.e., animals, humans, angels, statues, monkeys, etc.), the only truly monotheistic religion left on earth. So worship God alone and accept the messenger sent to us, which is Muhammad (peace be upon him). Only one man claimed to be sent to all of mankind, and that was Muhammad (peace be upon him).
Obviously, all the miracles the prophets performed are the evidence that led the masses to follow them. So the question begs: where is our miracle? We say that the Quran is our miracle. The Quran’s miraculous nature lies in many aspects, including its linguistic perfection, its consistency despite being revealed over 23 years, and its detailed knowledge of natural phenomena, history, and the future, much of which has only been verified centuries later. It challenges anyone to produce even a single chapter like it (Quran 2:23), and no one has ever succeeded. The Quran’s authenticity is further affirmed by its preservation. From the time it was revealed, the Quran has remained unchanged, with every letter and word intact, a claim no other religious text can make with the same certainty.
Anyone who is interested in learning about a faith should start with the main text of that faith. If you ask me how to learn about Islam, I would say: get a copy of the Quran and see if the teachings and writing contained within are man-made or clear, inimitable instructions from the Creator to us.
Jesus (peace be upon him) made his mission clear in the New Testament: "I was only sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." Muhammad (peace be upon him) said, "I was sent to the whole of mankind, and I am the last prophet; there will be none after me." So obey God through the prophet He sent to you, give in charity, pray, honor your parents, be kind to your neighbors-simple, comprehensive ways of life that, if we all follow, will lead to peace and prosperity in this world and Jannah (Paradise) in the hereafter. May the Almighty guide us all to His straight path and keep us firmly on it. Ameen.
@@moafro6524 I appreciate your time and effort in explaining Islam and the Quran. I haven't read the Quran yet but I guess I should read it. Especially if you say it's a "miracle".
I appreciate your honesty but I still stand upon the foundational aspects of Christianity, which are Jesus' incarnation, His crucifixion and His resurrection. Without these aspects, Christianity should have crumbled 2,000 years ago because it becomes meaningless to me.
Where does Muhammad say that he "was sent to the whole of mankind"? In a Hadith? And what does it mean that "Muhammad " himself was sent ? Does he mean he was sent with God's revelation?
I know Jesus said He was sent to the lost sheep of "the house of Israel". Yet Jesus encountered gentiles such as the Roman centurion. Jesus was amazed by this Roman soldier's faith. Why would Jesus praise this gentile soldier?
Jesus said "I am the good Shepherd". That statement must have been referring to all lost sheep.
However I could be wrong.
I've been listening to Blogging Theology for over 2 years but I'm still confused about Islam ( and Muhammad ).
But I might visit a mosque and talk with an Islamic scholar.
Again I appreciate your kind response. I respect the strong discipline of Muslims regarding prayer and good deeds.
Respectfully from Florida USA
Great 😊
Brother Paul , 2 things :
Quran Sura Maida , is it the Last Supper? When Allah said , ok I Am sending down the food , but if they disobeyed after it , they will be given such a punishment, which is never given before! I think , that’s why Prophet Eessa was ascended up from them . And then they repented, so Allah is sending him back ?
And please don’t stop No design 🙏
I’ve also researched and Salah, father of Eber was a Muslim Ebionite. Islam fully aligns with The Ebionites. Paul was a Greek Arab. Acts 13:1, Romans 16:6,9. He was a Roman Citizen with authority of Rome to kill Jews. Gaining citizenship would mostly be due to relation of Herod. In 333-100BC a mass conversion of Nabateans to Second Temple Judaism was seen. A Nabatean Temple is found in Pizzoli, Italy, where Paul traveled contemporary to his time. Paul went to Arabia, contrary to where Yehoshua stated. We know, Arabia was Pre-Islamic and full of polytheistic Arabs. He became a part of Benjamin due to Benjamin taking over The Kingship and Priesthood during the Hasmonean Dynasty. Pharisees were Persians, Babylonians, Rechabites, Edomite and Egyptians with some remnants of Israel. The original zealots broke off from The Pharisees and Sadducees. Hence, them knowing Yehoshua was revealing them as false and son’s of Satan. Paul as Simon The Magus would have him marrying in Agrippa, The Nabatean.
Paul was from Banu Israel who was a citizen of Rome, therefore, identified as Roman. He will be punished the most on judgement day and is now being punished in his grave
Isn't it sad that almost everything we know about the Ebionites is based on conjecture, on guessing and on so little truth that Ali Ataie has to put conjecture and guessing together and calls these lies "his truth" ?
That is pathetic.
Give it up, Ali.
I respect Dr Ataie because of his scholarly knowledge and his way of explaining things. However I'm a simple Christian believer and I know very little about early Christianity, especially the Ebionites.
..I still stand on the foundational aspects of Christianity, which are the Incarnation of Jesus, His crucifixion and His resurrection. Plus Jesus' wonderful parables of The Good Samaritan and The Prodigal Son.
I don't think the Quran has any teachings similar to these parables, does it ?
No disrespect intended to Muslims. I'm no scholar of anything.
Respectfully...
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Eboinits were vegetarian. They kept the mosaic laws and likely date to around the council of Jerusalem.
That's what I heard that they did this based on John the Baptist and Lord Jesus. But it is written that John ate locus and honey. Doesn't sound vegetarian to me.
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Does he agree to ebionites belief that Jesus was not born of virgin but mary and josef
He discusses that not all of them believed that
Could you please invite Dr Ataie to dicsuss daniel 9?
Islam is a faith that, like Christianity, recognizes Jesus, but considers him a prophet rather than a divine figure. Muhammad's wife, Khadija, was part of a Christian community that shared this view, and her brother was a Christian priest from a group of Arab Christians who also believed that Jesus was a prophet, not divine. Muhammad adopted this belief, proclaiming himself a prophet in the same line as Jesus, but asserting that he was the final prophet.
It was her cousin, not brother. I don’t recall any evidence eluding to Khadijah RA being part of Christian community. And if you read the story the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ met the cousin of Khadijah RA after the start of his Prophethood then the cousin passed away a few days later.
Is ebonites is their actual name ?
I think it's the only name we know of them but we're not sure how they called themselves cuz as I understand it (tho I'm just a layman) we have no writings from them
they worked with ebony, hence ebonites...
@@johnMcHale-j5s its not ebonites its ebionites. In hebrew it means "the poor one" based on their creed and ascetic way of life.
@@laizerwoolfI appreciate your clarification. Thanks
We nazarenes disagreed with the Ebionites ain a few areas of the faith.
Was Isa a Jew from the tribe of Judah, or was he from a different tribe from among Bani Israel? If he was a Jew then what is the evidence from the Quran and Hadith?
Bani israel does not mean Jew. Judah is from the twelve tribes. Allah did not name their revelation or their so called "Judaism" it's their tribalistic and nationalistic narssicism. They made Allah a tribal God from them only.
Second, Issa (as) was an israelite prophet sent to israelites.
Third, he was in palestine so He was from them and it does not matter at all.
VERY INFORMATIVE.THANK YOU.
Dust is not : تُراب =turab
Dust is : غبار او غبرة
Turab =تراب is soil
Im a simple man i know simple english. Watching 2 Dr speaker using big words about old people and books and writing that i have no knowledge off.
Cant understand anything. 😪
It would have been better to use simple English to get straight to the point since the audience is the glob ❤
An entire discourse base on academic speculation…
Paul is known to be a lier, he admitted it himself and went against the brother of Jesus (as) who was known to be a pious man, yet christians rely mostly on Paul's teachings for their religion. This is so crazy, I don't know how they can accept that
I'm a simple Christian believer but I don't "rely mostly on Paul's teachings". To be honest, I've seldom read the books by Saint Paul in the New Testament.
I'm also trying to understand Islam better. Peace to you
@@johnbrzykcy3076 If you believe in the crucifiction, so you fully rely on paul teaching. The true Jesus apostles didn't believe on the death on a cross of their Rabbi, nor they believed in paul teachings, who was rejected by them. The huge issue with the roman empire religion, it is the Words of God, completly collapsed because their greek tradition and written. Hebrew, aramean and arabic are deeply rooted in the same language, prophetic one, so in faith (believes).
@@johnbrzykcy3076 May God guide us to the right path
@@victoremman4639 Respectfully, if Jesus' followers didn't believe in Jesus' crucifixion, then why ( according to the 4 Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John ) did Jesus acknowledge his death in their presence? And Jesus mission was basically the journey to Jerusalem where He would submit obediently to the will of God the Father.
I'm no scholar but the foundational aspects of Christianity ( Orthodox Christianity ) are Jesus' incarnation ( coming in the form of a human being), His crucifixion and His resurrection.
By the way, no disrespect intended. I've been listening to Blogging Theology for over 2 years ! So I'm trying to understand Islam better; especially the beliefs regarding Jesus the prophet.
I don't understand your sentence which starts with "The huge issue...". Can you clarify? I appreciate your comments.
Respectfully from Florida USA
@@warrensimon3012 Amen. And may God provide me with motivation to learn and study and do good ( because I lack in each of those areas ).
I appreciate your comments.
Respectfully...
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PAUL OF TARSUS AS A WOLF AMONGST THE SHEEP
Paul of Tarsus, also known as the Apostle Paul, is a controversial figure in Christian history. Some view him as a wolf among sheep, while others see him as a genuine apostle of Jesus Christ.
- Matthew 10: 16: "Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; so be wise as serpents and innocent as doves."
- Luke 10: 3: "Go your way; behold, I send you out as lambs among wolves."
In this teaching, Jesus:
1. Acknowledges Danger : Recognizes that his followers will face threats and hostility from the world (symbolized by wolves).
2. Encourages Wisdom :
Advises his followers to be wise and discerning, like serpents, to navigate these challenges.
3. Emphasizes Innocence :
Reminds them to maintain their innocence and purity of heart, like doves, despite the surrounding danger.
"... like sheep among wolves " :
1. Deception :
That Paul deceived the early Christian communities by introducing his own teachings, which differed from Jesus' original message.
2. Manipulation:
Paul's writings show a skilled rhetorician who used persuasion and manipulation to achieve his goals.
3. Contradictions :
Paul's teachings contradict Jesus' teachings on issues like law and grace, faith and works.
4. Self-Appointed Apostle :
Paul claimed apostleship without being one of the original twelve apostles or being directly appointed by Jesus the Christ.
Claiming as Genuine Apostle :
1. Divine Calling :
Paul claimed a direct encounter with the risen Jesus, which commissioned him as an apostle (Galatians 1: 15-17).
2. Claim in Consistency with Jesus' teachings :
Paul's teachings on love, forgiveness, and salvation align with Jesus' core message.
3. Early Christian Acceptance :
The early Christian communities, including some of the apostles, accepted Paul as a fellow apostle and missionary (Acts 9: 26-31, Galatians 2: 7-10).
4. Theological Contributions*: Paul's writings provide significant theological insights, such as the concept of grace and the unity of Jew and Gentile in Christ.
These perspectives are not mutually exclusive, and Paul's legacy is complex and multifaceted. Some see him as a genuine apostle who made mistakes, while others view him as a well-intentioned but misguided figure that formed Christianity as it is today.
Paul in France? or... just uploading an ancient interview
Where is he hiding? 😂😂😂
The Ebionites were the true Christian, speak Jewish Christianity is the real Christianity. Paul went his own way !!
Always the same pattern. Those are in Allah's path, the right path is always labelled heretic, radical, etc.
Its hilarious how the doc sees this as proof of his religion. Mo was making it up as he went along even Aisha and his scribe knew that.
Pure speculation. The New Testament books were affirmed in the first century. We know very little about the Ebionites but a lot more about the polytheistic gnostics, who are more the spiritual precursors of Islam, which quotes a number of their books.
Respectfully, I don't understand what you meant when you said that the "polytheistic gnostics, who are more the spiritual precursors of Islam ".
Can you explain what you said?
I'm not Muslim.
Peace to you...
Source material. Quran draws from the canonical gospels and the rejected Gnostic gospels.@@johnbrzykcy3076
“The New Testament books were affirmed in the first century”
Oh really where? According to the earliest sources the texts you have now aren’t from the 1st century. Papias for example mentioned Matthew & Mark writing sayings of Jesus only that’s it, Matthew wrote the sayings in chronological order in Hebrew & Mark wrote the sayings in a random order. The texts of Matthew & Mark you have now are not lists of sayings, but rather entire story narratives & written in Greek originally (not translated into Greek but originally written in Greek so not the same text)
I strongly hold the belief that the early followers of Muhammad including Muhammed himself were mostly vegetarian similar to the Jesus and his followers, such the Ebionites. We will return to Gods idillic states before sin, no pain or bloodshed for both man and animal.
No prophet Muhammad ate meat according to the Hadith you can do your research
Man, I cannot believe all the evil that that man committed. And what is mind blowing is people insisting on believing his lies even after he was exposed. Teuky Paul is one of the worst persons in himan history for all the people he misled.
Israel attempt to vanish indigenous Palestine Christian history on progress. Peace be upon you'll out there and assalamualaiqum wmt
7:30 imagine a religious apologist telling the truth about gender science
Now we learn Paul the Tarsus was the 1st. fake jew, not the Ashkenazis..
Your position gives credence to the Jewish belief that to be Jewish is a matter of ethnicity not faith. We as Muslims don't accept this position. It is tribalism and one of their sins to believe that they were a "nation" and chosen because of their race.
“There are only two genders by the way.”
Can’t tell if that was sarcasm, or just a passive aggressive dig at the LGTBQ community. 🤨
Just stating scientific fact.
the shiea rafidh 1.0 and wahabism salafist political movement 2.0 aka shiea wahabi 2.0 and the transgenderism 3.0 aka ttt takfiri 3.0 being taught in schools in u s Canada Europe and Australia are inter connected and correlated origins from the basement of Babylonia
Full video?
The Ebionites were the true Christians found by James the brother of Jesus