Me and my wife used to be Hindus and we were hardcore Hindutva nationalists who hated Muslims. In 2019 we converted to Islam and changed our names alhamdullah ❤😊
Son of God does not mean that God has a child in Christianity! *what a mistake in the Qur'an!* Son of God are 2 titles one referring to the Word of God and one referring to creation (humans, angels, demons)
Son of God does not mean that God has a child in Christianity! *what a mistake in the Qur'an!* Son of God are 2 titles one referring to the Word of God and one referring to creation (humans, angels, demons)
Hebr 1,2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, *by whom also he made the worlds;* as everyone can see the term Son of God refers to the Word of God = god himself! For through that God created the worlds! *what a mistake in the Qur'an!*
@@TS-zd2udYou dont make any sense? Jesus is jesus and God is God? Every prophet who was sent came with the words of God? They where not literally the word of God? Jesus was set by God, Jezus prayed to God, Jezus had a God, Jesus talked with/to God? So NO God had a NOT a son or children and NO God is not a man or a baby who is bron. And lets get back to the point you have christians that say that God HAS literally a Son so the Quran speaks to al the sects of christanty also that some call Mary the mother of God..
Masha'Allah. Welcome to the truth abd tge path if all prophers, including prophet Jesus (AS). May Allah carve your path and keep you steadfast on his path, Insha'Allah.
I am a christened Roman Catholic, turned Agnostic at a young age, who will soon take his Shahada, as I believe Allah SWT is the center of creation and I adore Islam and it's teachings, as well as the unseen levels of brotherhood and sisterhood of within. As much of respect and admiration as I have for mr. Mohammed Hijab, I must adress one thing which I'm not fond of. His facial expressions, most of the time while listening to other side of the table, are those of arrogance (in a lack of a better word, because English is not my 1st language). It seems he doesn't listen with open heart and open mind, even though he is a philosopher and more importatnly, a prominent muslim. He smirks all the time and I hope I'm not the only one who sees it. He knows he is right, I know he is right and most of you know he is right, but that doesn't mean he should look upon others in that particular way. I understand he must be tired of all of these debates with non-believers, sometimes fatigue can get the better out of a person and I wish no harm to him by these words of mine. If I'm wrong here, in the name of Allah SWT, please correct me as I failed to know better at the moment of writing this comment. Peace and love brothers and sisters.
@@laila970 I took my Shahada one hour ago, a friend gave it to me. Your words inspired me to do it as soon as possible. Thank you from the depth of my heart. ❤️ Receive my sincere condolences for your late friend.
@@FalconSideSwipe welcome brother. Even though I most probably won't ever meet you, I love and respect you, brother. May Allah grant you all the blessings you ever wished for
@@FalconSideSwipemay Allah keep you steadfast isa ❤. And brother hijab was bit aggressive because the openhimer guy kept making false Strawmen about islam from shia books which we reject. And he made a moral argument against islam without even showing his moral objectivity. Which is a contradiction from his behalf. You can’t say something is bad and you don’t prove how you deduced that your morals is objective
@@RationalBeliver i’m an indian muslim, people have become very sensitive here. even criticizing the government is like disrespecting their God 💀 may Allah forgive us but for a long time they are not going to come back to their sense
I became a Muslim this week after long research and this debate opened my eyes. And what made me decide to be a Muslim is the atheists and not the Muslims. 😊😊
AFTER LONG RESEARCH!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 SO DO YOU KNOW THAT ALLAH CHANGE HIS WORDS AFTER LESS THAN ONE HOUR??!! PLEASE LAUGH 58:12 When you (want to) consult the Messenger in private, spend something in charity before your private consultation....WAS ABROGATED AFTER BEING IN EFFECT FOR ONLY ONE HOUR OF A DAY. `Abdur-Razzaq recorded that Mujahid said that `Ali said, "No one except me implemented this Ayah, until it was abrogated,'' and he was reported to have said that IT REMAINED IN EFFECT FOR MERELY AN HOUR....IBN KATHIR......AND THOSE TWO BULLIES, PATHETIC LAUGHING STOCKS ARE SPEAKING ABOUT ALL KNOWING ALLAH!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I was hindu but I accepted Islam. My mother forced me to leave before my brother and father found out and she thought I converted to marry a Muslim. She though I would have somewhere to go but was on the streets for 6months. But my faith was strong 💪 and I’m off the streets.
I have never been through what been through . I'm born muslim . Your story reminds me of how islam started . You are a role model, and Allah favours you to me .
@@enddaoccupation May be you are talking about that companion of Prophet Mohammad ﷺ . Who was greatly spoilt by his mother but when he accepted Islam his mother removed him from home. Subhanallah, he had everything from his family and mother but he saw that his family is wrong for being pagan and he has shown truth in Islam and Prophet Mohammad ﷺ and understood Oneness of The God Allah .
Alhamdullilah but my bro, this video was uploaded 5 hours before you made that comment lollll. Take away two hours to watch it. So you became a better Muslim in those 3 hours ? Lolll may Allah preserve you my brother, just abit of banter
Hijab you show poor manners. Remember the learned used to learn manners before they learned knowledge. A lot of knowledge is ruined by poor manners. Whereas a small amount of knowledge is beautified by good manners
Only allah knows about what is in the hearts. So only congratulations brother We pray to allah that he give you more knowledge and wisdom and taqwa too. Inshallah
Hinduism is bullshit they can't define what God is Christianity is irrational like concept of trinity and only Judaism and Islam left behind jews are in power economically but they do not usually debate on this topic only Islam left with true. Understanding of God and his book
because hindu themselve dont belive their religion . there 10-15 types of hindus . and they worship anyone they find good or successful . but all of them have one thing in common they hate muslim and do the opposite of muslim
You can view it as they want to continue following their desires and lack self accountability. They know if they accept Islam, the truth, then they have to let go of their desires, which a lot do not want to do.
I found the perfect balance in Hamza. His mannerism, tone, assertiveness, his succint responses and ofcourse his knowledge base is what really stood out for me.
I couldn't stop smiling while Muhammad Hijab was speaking, and the youth in the background were softly smiling. They knew that Islam is the truth. May Allah increase our eman and give us Muslims the pride that we had once upon a time. 🤲
*Timestamps:* 00:00 - Introduction 02:49 - Background of the Panelists 07:01 - Format of the Discussion 08:20 - Other Panelists 09:06 - Opening Statement by Eron 24:19 - Opening Statement by Mohammed Hijab: (Arguments for the existence of God) 30:06 - Arguments for God being only One 32:13 - Proof of Prophethood of Muhammad ﷺ 37:22 - Response to Eron's arguments 38:58 - Mohammed Hijab recites the Qur'an 39:34 - Opening Statement by Mark 58:27 - Opening Statement by Hamza Tzortzis 59:09 - Islamic response to the Problem of Evil 1:00:13 - Islamic Response to the Euthyphro dilemma 1:01:39 - The Qur'anic argument of prior cognitive information 1:16:25 - Ethics & Naturalism 1:19:12 - Objective Truth of Morality: Islam vs Liberalism/Atheism 1:30:08 - Eron's contentions & Hijab's response 1:34:10 - Discussion on Infinities 1:36:25 - Eron's argument against God's omniscience 1:38:00 - Debunking Eron's argument 1:40:53 - Discussion on Beliefs/Mind of God 1:43:37 - God vs Infinity 1:47:36 - Claim of grounding Objective Ethics in Suffering 1:49:55 - Refutation of the Suffering claim 1:50:50 - Eron's response about Suffering 1:51:36 - Scrutinizing Eron's response 1:55:00 - Hamza's review of the discussion so far 1:57:22 - The Problem of Evil & its Islamic response 2:00:54 - Argument of Contradiction of God creating evil 2:03:18 - Refutation of the Argument 2:06:54 - Closing
AI generated timestamps: 00:13 🎙 Event intro on religious dialogue. 01:25 🌍 Fostering communal belief discussions in Africa. 02:09 🔍 Deep importance of religious questions. 03:19 📚 Panelists' introductions in philosophy and theology. 07:04 📊 Discussion format outlined. 23:50 🕊 Logical argument from evil presented. 26:21 🔄 Contradictions in "limitless becoming limited." 27:00 💡 Naturalism as explanation for equality. 27:38 📜 Necessity of an independent, eternal being. 28:27 🔄 Contingent things indicating a necessary being. 32:38 💼 Prophet Muhammad's accurate predictions. 41:12 💬 Secular ethics rooted in suffering alleviation. 43:32 🤝 Kant's Categorical Imperative for morality. 46:03 🔄 Rawls' "veil of ignorance" for moral principles. 49:49 ❌ Apostasy, enforcement of belief. 50:17 ⚖ Apostasy punishment, Rushdie's fatwa. 52:08 🔴 Charlie Hebdo, depictions of Muhammad. 52:36 📚 Rules on depictions mostly apply to believers. 53:04 🔥 Quranic penalties and secular morality conflict. 54:01 ✋ Disproportionate punishments in Quran. 55:00 👥 Quranic penalties differ from secular views. 56:16 🌈 Sharia law's stance on homosexuality. 01:15:27 🧪 Debating moral perspectives. 01:18:08 🌍 Ontologies in moral philosophy. 01:20:13 🤔 Assumption of universal moral philosophies. 01:24:18 💬 Objective morality debates. 01:31:26 🗣 Need for respectful discourse. 01:36:10 🧐 Problem of God's omniscience and infinity. 01:36:51 🤔 God's knowledge and infinity conflict. 01:37:19 🌌 Qualitative vs. quantitative infinity. 01:40:21 💡 Attributes and infinite limitations. 01:45:07 🤝 Objectivity of ethics, grounded in suffering. 01:58:07 🤖 Argument on evil's existence and substantiation. 01:58:22 🛡 Good's degrees and argument's relevance. 01:58:58 💼 Divine wisdom and evil's absence. 01:59:28 💬 Deflection countered, evil and wisdom discussed. 02:00:11 📚 Accounts of good, wisdom, and evil.
I swear to God ever since I realised the reality of life I always constantly remind me that we are so blessed to be Muslims. I know for sure one super good man in my lineage would have converted from Hinduism to Muslim in South India ---- Imagine the blessings this soul must be getting.... May Allah raise this person who brought us to the right path.... I believe we would have converted anywhere between 400-500 years back.... Alhamdullillah Islam is the right thing to have anywhere we live.
@@abayomrunkojemusa9086don't think of it like that as guidance came to you and you accepted and thus having all your previous sins forgiven Masha'Allah. I often wonder if I wasn't born Muslim and someone gave me Da'wah, would I accept? May Allah keep you and us steadfast upon this religion and may He also guide your family to the Deen like He has with you. Ameen
As a South African I'm quite disappointed with the extremely poor organisation of this discussion. How could they not book the room for longer than the expected time the debate was intended to run for? Additionally there were several disturbances and the chair kept talking at length instead of timekeeping.
absolutely. They fly these gentlemen over from wherever country in the world and literally only have 2 hours for a debate between 4 intellectuals? What a joke and disappointment.
MashAllah! Alhamdulilah for having these opportunities. This was such a good setting and an amazing opportunity. As a South African who has served on very similar MSA committees I must say this was gearing up to be flawless and got completely unnecessarily interfered with by the uncle in the end. That was such poor form and uncalled for. The chair of the debate interjected when he really should not have either and when you invite speakers of such magnitude and who are known for being dynamic, what do you expect? I don't know why I was so bothered by this I am posting a comment. I just make duah Allah can help us all control our ego and respect renowned scholars who have dedicated decades to learning this religion.
Thank you so much for uploading this entire debate in 1080p! Downloaded it & will turn it into clips to share with people its going to be great you uncivilised big baby
An Atheist asked Ahmed Deedat: How would you feel if you died and discovered that the Hereafter was a lie? Ahmed Deedat replied: Not worse than when you die and discover that the Hereafter is the TRUTH. Islam will win with or without you, but without Islam you will get lost and lose.
I would reply that the question is erroneous. That question can only be raised under the ideology of islam i.e there is space for thought process/a paradigm where one can think and regret/celeberate his death. Under athiesm, there is nothing after death..... how can one think after death under arhiesm..... he is finished..... gone.....!
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- [24:22](ruclips.net/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/видео.htmlm22s) 🤖 Beginning of the discussion on the existence of God. - Exploring explanations for the universe's existence, including the concept of a necessary being. - Differentiating between finite chains of dependence and infinite chains, highlighting the absurdity of an infinite chain of dependencies. - Arguing for the existence of a necessary being to make sense of dependent things. - [29:07](ruclips.net/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/видео.htmlm7s) 🛡 Discussing the uniqueness of one God. - Explaining why there can only be one necessary being. - Touching on Quranic arguments and verses that support the idea of one God. - Emphasizing the idea of an overarching, singular will as a foundation for the universe's stability and regularity. - [32:23](ruclips.net/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/видео.htmlm23s) 💼 Introducing evidence for the truth of Islam. - Presenting the prophetic predictions made by the Prophet Muhammad, including geopolitical events and societal changes. - Highlighting the accuracy and unambiguous nature of these predictions as evidence for Islam's validity. - [39:47](ruclips.net/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/видео.htmlm47s) ⚖ Shifting to the discussion of morality and secular ethics. - Defining the criteria for a good moral theory, including coherence, consistency, and universality. - Presenting two secular approaches to morality: one grounded in the avoidance of suffering and the other based on rationality and universal laws. - [48:12](ruclips.net/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/видео.htmlm12s) 📜 Comparing secular ethics to religious morality. - Explaining the adaptability and inclusivity of secular ethics compared to religious moral codes. - Discussing the potential challenges of adhering to immutable religious texts in a changing world.
- [49:49](ruclips.net/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/видео.htmlm49s) 🕌 Addressing the issue of apostasy in Sharia law. - Mentioning the concept of apostasy in Islam and the expectation for Muslims to remain within the faith. - Referring to real-world examples of individuals accused of apostasy.
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- [50:03](ruclips.net/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/видео.html) 📜 Discussion on Controversial Religious Views - Discussion about controversial religious views. - Ayatollah Khomeini's fatwa against Salman Rushdie. - Debate on the morality of punishing apostates. - Controversy surrounding depictions of the Prophet Muhammad. - Examination of Quranic verses related to non-believers and their punishments.
- [58:23](ruclips.net/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/видео.html) 🧐 Arguments for God's Existence and Responses to Atheism - Presentation of an argument challenging naturalism. - Refutation of the problem of evil argument. - Discussion on the arbitrariness of God's commands. - Introduction of the "quranic argument of Prior cognitive information." - Examination of the necessity of prior cognitive information for human judgment and thoughts.
- [01:02:07](ruclips.net/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/видео.html) 🤯 Argument from Cognitive Information - Presentation of an argument for the existence of God based on cognitive information. - Explanation of why human beings require prior cognitive information for judgments. - Examination of potential sources of prior cognitive information and their inadequacies. - Discussion on the limitations of naturalistic explanations. - Conclusion that a non-natural agent best explains prior cognitive information.
- [01:11:59](ruclips.net/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/видео.html) 🤖 Grounding Morality in Transcendent Agent - Morality must be grounded in a non-natural Transcendent agent. - The agent should be living, willing, transcendent, and omniscient to explain morality. - Atheism fails to provide a rational basis for morality. - [01:13:49](ruclips.net/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/видео.html) 🧐 Critique of Atheism's Philosophical Underpinnings - Atheism as a form of philosophical naturalism, scientism, and post-modernism. - Atheism struggles to explain the foundation of rationality, truth, and morality. - It lacks an objective basis for morality and cognition. - [01:16:00](ruclips.net/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/видео.html) 📚 Open Discussion on Morality and Worldviews - Discussion on various worldviews and their moral foundations. - Critique of secular ethical frameworks. - The importance of recognizing different ontologies and cosmologies in ethical discussions. - [01:24:04](ruclips.net/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/видео.html) 🤯 Challenges to Secular Ethics and Ethical Relativism - The debate shifts to the challenges of secular ethics and ethical relativism. - Questions regarding the objectivity of ethics and moral grounding. - Discussion on the implications of different moral frameworks. - [01:27:14](ruclips.net/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/видео.html) 🔎 Assessing the Universality of Moral Frameworks - A focus on the universality of moral frameworks and their origins. - The role of cultural and historical context in shaping moral philosophies. - Exploring the concept of rights within different ethical systems.
- [01:31:26](ruclips.net/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/видео.html) 🤝 Panel Discussion Introduction - Panel discussions commence with a focus on assertive speech, structural issues, and disagreement handling. - [01:35:12](ruclips.net/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/видео.html) 🧐 Examining the Notion of Actual Infinities - Debate about the existence of actual infinities in different contexts. - Differentiating between qualitative and quantitative infinities. - Discussing the applicability of actual infinities to God's attributes. - [01:38:00](ruclips.net/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/видео.html) 🧠 Philosophical Grounding for Objective Morality - Exploring the philosophical basis for objective morality. - Linking suffering, axiological values, and moral reasons. - Discussing the concept of rights in relation to vital interests and suffering. Please note that the timestamps provided link to the specific sections of the video for reference.
A bit disappointed honestly. I am an engineer/computer scientist, and have been practicing Islam for nearly 10 years now. I am not philosophically trained, nor religiously trained, and my knowledge is primarily from RUclips lectures and/or books. Despite that, I could find so many problematic and inconsistent statements with the atheists' positions. I expected more, I wanted to be challenged. Indeed, if we build walls of intellectualism upon foundations of truth, these walls would be unshakably and firmly grounded on all fronts. And walls of intellectualism built upon falsehood will always end in collapse. Alhamdulillah for Islam.
The challenge is knowing that the opposition to the truth always have the same mechanical behaviour. It is just like reciting quran getting to the ayah of satan telling his feelings, or hearing about the wrong doers, then come the next week or the next month or the next year (depending upon how much time it takes to complete reading the quran) and hearing the same phrase of satan telling us his feelings or hearing about the wrong doers. So much so it becomes like periods of the moon or heavenly bodies. The deniers arguments being so predictable.
Scientist of engineering in chemicals of materials here. Same. What we saw here was a respectful display from atheists, which is uncommon from past debates like with krauss, aron ra or wood, and that is why atheists struggle. It s because when the atheist doesnt play semantics or attack with ad homs, his position becomes painfully obviously as an emotional dogmatist..
Here to say that I am sorry you thought that atheism was suppose to be a challenge. There is no challenge to Islam. Only a challenge to muslims. Holdfast and Alhadmullilah!
@@ummerfarooq5383That’s very well put. For those who are sure in their faith, the deniers arguments are like wails that come routinely like periodic chore.
@crusader7356you’re very delusional. these people are nothing compared to hijab. he’s highly educated on the topics he discusses, cant be say about his opponents. jp one was not a debate but a discussion.
@crusader7356 Don't be desperate boy. You typing comment saying he lost all debates doesn't make it true objectively. Come out of your delusional and watch his debate with open and rational mind but of course, what can we expect from people who cannot even rationally think that it is impossible for something to come out of nothing. He won all the debates but only an openminded person can see that not a sheep like you follows the rules and customs of the West. If you are told that a man can become a woman and vice versa, a boy can identify himself a dog or any other thing, eating meeting is wrong, homosexuality is right, you just believe it blindly without even thinking with your own mind. If a person doesn't want to see the truth, you can't force him to see it.
@crusader7356 ah yes the audience, who most of them clapped in applause and belief towards what mohammad hijab was saying, was on the opposing side, who had 2 people applause at one point, 2.
Muhammad Hijab is very talented! Subhanallah, Alhamdulillah, Allah has blessed him with a remarkably retentive memory. I've watched many of his debates, and most of the time, he speaks without referring to a paper or any device. What a blessing to the ummah! I have a question, MH. How do you remember so much accurately while speaking quickly and articulately?
@@truth80855 minutes until hijab interrupted him. God knows how long he would have gone on for. He was clout chasing of hijabs name and tried to include himself in the debate.
I always watch your full videos. But audio quality of this video is not good as others. Please make sure about your audio quality next time . Love from Bangladesh ❤
In fact, most people do not believe in religion to avoid responsibility. Because they are afraid of not living the life they want. Why should they believe in a religion that prohibits alcohol, pork, gambling, premarital sex, eating interest, commands giving alms to the poor, and commands prayer 5 times a day?
Yall don't get Hijab 😅 he cares about you that much to get that passionate or hype in today's terms.. much love and appreciation for a such a rich conversation.
Alhamdulilah to be shia muslim as Prophet advised sahabas at ghadeer and hadith of Saqalain that Quran goes hand in hand with ahlul bayt. In order to understand Quran we need ahlul bayt. Unfortunately many hypocrits hidden as sahabas tried to stopped them with their cruelty and brutality.
@@syedbaqir2687Do not argue and fighting with each other. We are muslims. Any differences between us, just come back to Quran, sunnah and Hadith of Prophet Muhammad. Period.
Now I’ve seen it all… moderators interrupting a debate to then interject their own views and opinions instead of letting the panelists argue their points🤦🏻♂️
i think they was frustrated that they organised a debate agaisnt the muslim brothers and did bring the best of the best and still the brothers handled that very easly, they made a trap that didnt work at all 😂
ما شاء الله تبارك الله Bro Hijab I love the way you speak to the atheists. How can someone who denies the existence of a Creater ever be respected? May Allah bless you for the izzah you and bro Hamza have demonstrated that Islam and the Muslims should have.
What if simply the scriptures and all of the claims it makes is simply not satisfactory answer. I'm not a religious person, more of agnostic type. Regardless, if you wanna have a debate then you have to be respectful for even the opposing views. When someone is disrespectful to Hijab, every muslim will jump to his defense and say stuff like "Hijab was respectful and this person acted like a fool" etc but when he is being disrespectful and throwing tantrum, its suddenly okay.
Spot on this is exactly why they can't handle him. The Western intellectuals have been acting arrogantly and unchallenged for far too long things are about to change.
I always imagined what it was like to sit amongst the philosophers and just listen, I honestly felt like I watched the modern version, just annoying that the chairs had to keep interrupting, this conversation should be untimed .
Respect to Hijab for not letting their attempts at silencing him stop him. These athiests need to speak with their chest and argue the points, instead of crying about being scared and “uncomfortable” about Hijab’s tone of voice lol. They should expect different personalities and styles of debating. And also, the panellist moderators were absolutely unprofessional and rude. What a joke.
@@kamranabbasi6757yes but regardless some people have a more assertive and authoritative personality, this is how Hijab is and always has been, if you are a grown up you should have no issue accepting this rather than being intimidated by it
Do not confuse a Muslim’s need to be humble with their right to fight back when required. Our Prophet (SAW) was the kindest and most humble human to ever exist, but he also went to war to protect the ummah. Both can exist at the same time. Well done brother Hijab! ❤
@@jodolski if you’re focusing on that rather than the content of what he said and the arguments he put across that the atheists didn’t even have a proper answer for, then you’re looking at this the wrong way and maybe not mature enough to see the bigger picture
@@specter1019 I’m not dismissing the merits of the Muslim arguments. They were solid. The atheists didn’t have a chance to respond. Debates like these don’t deserve to be confined to 2 hour sessions to be honest. It would’ve been better to focus on a single question / subject area and expand on that for hours instead of asking 4 or 6 different questions that acted as offshoots to a pretty general question.
@@jodolskiunderstand that people have different personalities and he doesn’t have to fit your pacific style and personality just because you feel uncomfortable with some heat in a normal yet critical discussion. Bro, stop talking like women, when they have no ground to respond on, they attack the way a person speaks, it’s a very known tactic among lawyers. It is said, if you don’t have an argument, play the man! Hijab was appropriate considering the context, enough with this passive approach that you grow up with because you are afraid to be accused of being aggressive and extremist nonsense.
If anyone thinks that because you are a muslim, you have to be subordinate and humble in all times and situations, you are simply wrong. Well done brother Hijab!
@@yushaibnegwa9756 exactly and from hijabs conduct alone i dont think any non muslim will be delving deeper into islam because of him regardless of how sound his arguments may be
This is not only exciting but it’s truly monumental. A first of its kind. Thank you MH and HT. Hopefully, there are many more debates like this from now on. Takbeer!!!
I think MH got heated because the atheists kept missing the points of the questions the muslims were putting forward and then the atheists make a sly comment about some Islamic legal concept they deem as wrong. 1. They fail to answer questions. 2. They make false comments about Islam. 3. They tell MH to calm down when he raises his voice. This discussion was an awkward mess especially with the weird hosts' interjections and passive aggressiveness.
They also came into the discussion of morality with the belief that their view is correct, which infuriated Hijab since he was asking why they thought that. Notice how they didn’t respond to why they think their morality should be the only way for everyone.
1. presentation/introduction panel peoples were very unprofessional shuttering and lacking and interrupt in very important moment 2x. 2. mark oppenheimer start to gives examples from the Quran about morality Which they don't know what they are talking about, they don't even study the Classic Arabic so they don't know classic Arabic. all of this things the mark has been mentioned or talk about from the Quran about morality those things has been dealt with so many time and answered, some claims he made are not from the Quran, some of them are just blunt lies that has been made up by islamophobs long long time ago. it just shows his (mark) lack of research about this topic before came into panel. 3. after that Muhammad Hijab got angry. he never should get angry or triggered by this people also I want to say to Mark that he never should talk about those things he doesn't know/researched completely or fully about those topic. 4. I also believe Hamza also get trigger or angry after mark speech. and later Hamza and Hijab made little bit of fun or bully the Atheist panel. which I don't support also I don't support mark it just shows his lack of research about this topic before came into panel. 5. this discussion was not about morality it was about the existence of god true or false. 6. my discussion rating over all 7.5/10
The point MH was making was simple and they knew they were stuck. As an atheist you have no basis of morality, so when you choose to make an assessment on it, you have to at least show were your basis is. MH was saying..since you won't make it clear, your statement seems to be based off a system that is infallible and morally proven to cause more damage in the lifespan of it's activity. Where as we (Muslims) have had a guide on moral truths from creation, and then reaffirmed through our final prophet. How dare he then pass judgement from a vacuum or even a currpt system while then hiding your hands saying he wasn't there to tell where his actual source of morality stemmed from
God it's so frustrating. At the end when the conversation finally started to get really interesting they had to stop them. Both atheist and theists had great points I got to learn alot from both sides
@@salahuddeenayyubi9515 He's been a revert for 4 years, I'm sure he's well acquainted with Islam. So welcome wouldn't be correct, but rather Ma Sha Allah
I am a Muslim (Bengali Canadian) and I once was steering towards atheism in my early 20s during my Bachelors'. Today, I am a proud Muslim and Brother Hijab and Brother Tzortzis are strongly responsible for rectifying my Aqeedah (creed). Thank you brothers! Fine work as always!
Hijab you show poor manners. Remember the learned used to learn manners before they learned knowledge. A lot of knowledge is ruined by poor manners. Whereas a small amount of knowledge is beautified by good manners
@@jjohn408 Why shouldn't he be enraged being treated like a child when he is clearly more qualified than all of the panel. Just because he has an 'assertive' voice (he himself mentioned after being disrupted many times throughout), what gives white men the right to shut him up? This is how Africans discuss, the voice is loud. Be 'inclusive'. Why do we always have to conform to white men standards of discussion?
@@jjohn408 Sometimes, righteous anger (indignance) is a virtue. This was one of those times. Speak out for your rights to speak. He did it in a well-mannered tone given the rudeness of the panel/speakers.
@@jjohn408 also, these two white men as usual attacked Islamic sharia law calling it barbaric essentially and also misrepresenting it. Typical white savior/white man's burden mentality. They committed the most racist and heinous and genocidal crimes the past few centuries and they wanna lecture us?! Get outta here!
@@chtadow13 Yes drag queen story hours is forcing homosexuality upon kids, which is conditioning them into a belief that having dingy dingy with adult pdf file atheists is normal. This is why atheists and muslims agree so much on so many thing, because mupedohammad was pdf file too *sunan abi dawud 2121* *_Remember:_*_ The international apostacy day for muslims is on 22nd of August_
The hosts were unprofessional and influent in their language taking more time than giving their points. Moreover, I felt like MH and HT were not only being attacked by two atheists but the moderator and organisers too while they were trying to spread their point across the room. May Allah reward you brothers
1:26:52 The part that was highlighted the most. They avoided answering, and aksed a question. After that, they tried to answer, while hijab was discussing the answer, the chair interrupted him.
I respect the confidence of the brothers. They know they are in the right and they aren't afraid to make it crystal clear that they're not here to be lectured with no evidence.
Alhamdulilah to be shia muslim as Prophet advised sahabas at ghadeer and hadith of Saqalain that Quran goes hand in hand with ahlul bayt. In order to understand Quran we need ahlul bayt. Unfortunately many hypocrits hidden as sahabas tried to stopped them with their cruelty and brutality.
@@syedbaqir2687 Quran says to follow muhajireen and Ansar. Who are the muhajireen? You cannot find Shi'ism in the quran. But you can find the way of ahl al sunna wal jamaa
Lmao Brother Hijab was frustrated and fully annoyed at the end 😂 the irony is these athiests were complaining about how brother hijab and Hamza were interrupting them but they kept on doing the same thing throughout when both the brothers stopped interrupting. Moreover, the chair and the questioners were also interrupting brother hijab and Hamza again and again. This was a rather mismanaged and frustrating discussion or debate tbh.
1. presentation/introduction panel peoples were very unprofessional shuttering and lacking and interrupt in very important moment 2x. 2. mark oppenheimer start to gives examples from the Quran about morality Which they don't know what they are talking about, they don't even study the Classic Arabic so they don't know classic Arabic. all of this things the mark has been mentioned or talk about from the Quran about morality those things has been dealt with so many time and answered, some claims he made are not from the Quran, some of them are just blunt lies that has been made up by islamophobs long long time ago. it just shows his (mark) lack of research about this topic before came into panel. 3. after that Muhammad Hijab got angry. he never should get angry or triggered by this people also I want to say to Mark that he never should talk about those things he doesn't know/researched completely or fully about those topic. 4. I also believe Hamza also get trigger or angry after mark speech. and later Hamza and Hijab made little bit of fun or bully the Atheist panel. which I don't support also I don't support mark it just shows his lack of research about this topic before came into panel. 5. this discussion was not about morality it was about the existence of god true or false. 6. my discussion rating over all 7.5/10 and your completely right it was a mess
This was very interesting. I lost the thread at the end though. Around 2:05:00 they discuss "There is nothing in creation better than what is." and how Islamic scholars discussed about its meaning for long time, and one of them wrote a book about it. Then the black suit guy asked what was the answer that was given, and blue suit guy looked like segmentation fault, several in the audience laughed, the guy with yellow hoodie facepalmed, the guy off-screen said let's move on, and the gray suit guy did. What happened there?
Alhamdulilah to be shia muslim as Prophet advised sahabas at ghadeer and hadith of Saqalain that Quran goes hand in hand with ahlul bayt. In order to understand Quran we need ahlul bayt. Unfortunately many hypocrits hidden as sahabas tried to stopped them with their cruelty and brutality.
@@Mohamed_lemin_alyaqoubi Why are you scared. You people always used to say dont debate with shias LMAO HAHAHA because everything will break down. Do you want to talk? I *CHALLANGE* you bring me ONE hadith about abu bakr caliphate. There is *NONE* . I have several for Imam Ali (AS)
Hijab and Hamza debating these two atheists is like Messi and Ronaldo playing football against two kids . Brother Hijab and Brother Hamza are way more experienced and competent academically and intellectually in this topic.😅
Well summed up ! And the panel of “academics” were amateurish and their lack of experience was very noticeable amongst academic giants and debaters like hamza and hijab - they lacked authority The moderator was annoying and wasted valuable time with his ummimg “ Oppenheimer was literally speechless The other guy was a waffler true to his profession MashaAllah- brothers from UK you made us proud AllahuAkbar
I'm from SA and I'm ashamed at how this discussion was handled by the guy in blue! Why should we be submissive when they make false claims. I have the greatest of respect for both M. Hijab and Tzortis. May Allah bless you and keep you steadfast on this path. Allahu Akbr
wow the chair was so unprofessional and unorganised, could get even set a time for q/a. also the beeping noise so they had fix that issue and waste time. then they started to blame the 4 people because they did not get time for q/a. its not they fault its chair for not organising it properly
@@lokidedbeat1878 Imagine trying to blame the panelist’s when they couldn’t get the debate in order. What a bunch of clowns. SA I’m disappointed. If I was MH or Hamza I would decline any further invitations from them.
And what was up with the chairman and his erm erm erm and fancy hands? Also the uncle next to him coming out at the last moment to throw his toys out of the cot😂 As a former UJ student, this was totally embarrassing. Not mentioning the weak atheist arguments. Come on you're going up against 2 giants, is this the best UJ could put forward? Mohammed and Hamza are true legends. Alhamdulillah ALLAH PAK bless you for all the work you do and the many whome you inspire.
Развлечения
Me and my wife used to be Hindus and we were hardcore Hindutva nationalists who hated Muslims. In 2019 we converted to Islam and changed our names alhamdullah ❤😊
I am happy for both of you, and may Allah bless you both.
which city are you from? what made you convert to islam? how it all started?
MashaAllah
Son of God does not mean that God has a child in Christianity!
*what a mistake in the Qur'an!*
Son of God are 2 titles one referring to the Word of God and one referring to creation (humans, angels, demons)
@@hannawurst6064Listen, what is so hard about believing in a SINGLE and UNIQUE God ?
Mashallah barakallah
Love how you’re defending Islam on the greatest of stages!!!
May Allah preserve you!!
Ayo brother. More events like this should be done in America as well
Son of God does not mean that God has a child in Christianity!
*what a mistake in the Qur'an!*
Son of God are 2 titles one referring to the Word of God and one referring to creation (humans, angels, demons)
Hebr 1,2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, *by whom also he made the worlds;*
as everyone can see the term Son of God refers to the Word of God = god himself! For through that God created the worlds! *what a mistake in the Qur'an!*
@@TS-zd2udYou dont make any sense? Jesus is jesus and God is God?
Every prophet who was sent came with the words of God? They where not literally the word of God?
Jesus was set by God, Jezus prayed to God, Jezus had a God, Jesus talked with/to God? So NO God had a NOT a son or children and NO God is not a man or a baby who is bron.
And lets get back to the point you have christians that say that God HAS literally a Son so the Quran speaks to al the sects of christanty also that some call Mary the mother of God..
greatest of stages!!!? not greatest of course that's for sure.
on aug 18th 2023 i accepted islam into my heart. best decision of my life
Did you like the concept of virgins and wine in jannah brozzerrr?
I Founding the true Islam I decided to quit Islam .
Masha'Allah. Welcome to the truth abd tge path if all prophers, including prophet Jesus (AS). May Allah carve your path and keep you steadfast on his path, Insha'Allah.
Good luck, now you can never leave because leaving is punishable by DEATH !
Mashallah
I am a christened Roman Catholic, turned Agnostic at a young age, who will soon take his Shahada, as I believe Allah SWT is the center of creation and I adore Islam and it's teachings, as well as the unseen levels of brotherhood and sisterhood of within.
As much of respect and admiration as I have for mr. Mohammed Hijab, I must adress one thing which I'm not fond of. His facial expressions, most of the time while listening to other side of the table, are those of arrogance (in a lack of a better word, because English is not my 1st language). It seems he doesn't listen with open heart and open mind, even though he is a philosopher and more importatnly, a prominent muslim. He smirks all the time and I hope I'm not the only one who sees it. He knows he is right, I know he is right and most of you know he is right, but that doesn't mean he should look upon others in that particular way. I understand he must be tired of all of these debates with non-believers, sometimes fatigue can get the better out of a person and I wish no harm to him by these words of mine.
If I'm wrong here, in the name of Allah SWT, please correct me as I failed to know better at the moment of writing this comment.
Peace and love brothers and sisters.
@@laila970 I took my Shahada one hour ago, a friend gave it to me. Your words inspired me to do it as soon as possible. Thank you from the depth of my heart. ❤️
Receive my sincere condolences for your late friend.
@@FalconSideSwipe welcome brother. Even though I most probably won't ever meet you, I love and respect you, brother. May Allah grant you all the blessings you ever wished for
@@spoderman6969 Thank you brother. I love and respect you as well.
@@FalconSideSwipemay Allah keep you steadfast isa ❤. And brother hijab was bit aggressive because the openhimer guy kept making false Strawmen about islam from shia books which we reject. And he made a moral argument against islam without even showing his moral objectivity. Which is a contradiction from his behalf. You can’t say something is bad and you don’t prove how you deduced that your morals is objective
Thank you for pointing this out. Muhammad Hijab is an arrogant bully
Bringing Speakers Corner indoors 💪
Fancy seeing you here!
Salam, surprising seeing you comment here haha
speakers corner kulfi
We need ketchup kulfi.
Please do one thing and stray away from using music in your videos. Just an advice
i was a Hindu...reverted to Islam in. 2014..Alhamdulillah
SubhanAllah, may Allah SWT put barakah in your life and those muslims around you
Mashallah
bro how about muslim in india ? do you from india brother?
@@RationalBeliver No,I am from Bangladesh
@@RationalBeliver i’m an indian muslim, people have become very sensitive here. even criticizing the government is like disrespecting their God 💀 may Allah forgive us but for a long time they are not going to come back to their sense
As someone who is slowly “converting” from a atheist to a Muslim this was a must watch.
Converting to a death cult? Are you crazy?
Do you believe in talking Ants?
@@ddrum757the one who made you talk can make even rocks talk, what's possible shouldn't be limited by what we are used to..
@@ddrum757 do you believe in alternative realities/ the multiverses 🙄
@@ddrum757atheist believe in multiverse..so talking ant is not impossible for atheist too
I became a Muslim this week after long research and this debate opened my eyes. And what made me decide to be a Muslim is the atheists and not the Muslims. 😊😊
Alhamdulillah congrats ! 😊😊
Mash Allah!!!
Welcome to the right path
AFTER LONG RESEARCH!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 SO DO YOU KNOW THAT ALLAH CHANGE HIS WORDS AFTER LESS THAN ONE HOUR??!! PLEASE LAUGH
58:12 When you (want to) consult the Messenger in private, spend something in charity before your private consultation....WAS ABROGATED AFTER BEING IN EFFECT FOR ONLY ONE HOUR OF A DAY. `Abdur-Razzaq recorded that Mujahid said that `Ali said, "No one except me implemented this Ayah, until it was abrogated,'' and he was reported to have said that IT REMAINED IN EFFECT FOR MERELY AN HOUR....IBN KATHIR......AND THOSE TWO BULLIES, PATHETIC LAUGHING STOCKS ARE SPEAKING ABOUT ALL KNOWING ALLAH!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
MashaAllah welcome 🤲🏿
Mashallah
I was hindu but I accepted Islam. My mother forced me to leave before my brother and father found out and she thought I converted to marry a Muslim. She though I would have somewhere to go but was on the streets for 6months. But my faith was strong 💪 and I’m off the streets.
May Allah grant you abundant reward in this world and next. Ameen
@@nahinisrat1182amen
I have never been through what been through . I'm born muslim . Your story reminds me of how islam started . You are a role model, and Allah favours you to me .
Mashallah
@@enddaoccupation
May be you are talking about that companion of Prophet Mohammad ﷺ .
Who was greatly spoilt by his mother but when he accepted Islam his mother removed him from home.
Subhanallah,
he had everything from his family and mother but he saw that his family is wrong for being pagan and he has shown truth in Islam and Prophet Mohammad ﷺ and understood Oneness of The God Allah .
After watching this debate, I decided to become a more practicing Muslim.😊 Islam is the ultimate Reality.
Al Hamdou lilleh
Keep going bro
Alhumdulillah
Alhamdullilah but my bro, this video was uploaded 5 hours before you made that comment lollll. Take away two hours to watch it. So you became a better Muslim in those 3 hours ?
Lolll may Allah preserve you my brother, just abit of banter
Ha!! Keep going but dont try to leave. They'll kill ya.
Hijab you show poor manners. Remember the learned used to learn manners before they learned knowledge. A lot of knowledge is ruined by poor manners. Whereas a small amount of knowledge is beautified by good manners
The title should be: Hamza and Hijab Vs Atheists and the panel! 😂😂😂
People really can't differentiate between speaking passionately and shouting.
I think it’s a cultural misunderstanding.
Watching this from Cape Town.
I embraced Islam 2 months ago.
ALLAHU AKBAR!!!
Alhamdulillah, lekker my bru, CT got a wonderful muslim community. May Allah keep you steadfast.
I am In Cape Town too. I would love to grab a coffee
Mashallah ❤
Mashallah
Are you related to former proteas wicketkeeper Mark Boucher?
I am Muslim and today I rectified my Iman
@@obaid1333 changed my name today
alhamdoulilah much love brother
Only allah knows about what is in the hearts.
So only congratulations brother
We pray to allah that he give you more knowledge and wisdom and taqwa too.
Inshallah
@obaid1333 are you saying he was/is Buddhist?
That sounds much better.
Very proud of you my dear.
Now you do deserve the 300+ 👍 😅.
Why does all religion challenges Islam?
I don't see any hindu vs Buddhist, hindu vs singh,...
Hindu vs atheists... Because Islam is sensibly true...
Hinduism is bullshit they can't define what God is Christianity is irrational like concept of trinity and only Judaism and Islam left behind jews are in power economically but they do not usually debate on this topic only Islam left with true. Understanding of God and his book
True
Its the fastest growing religion more and more are drawn to it. Alhamdulillah
because hindu themselve dont belive their religion . there 10-15 types of hindus . and they worship anyone they find good or successful .
but all of them have one thing in common they hate muslim and do the opposite of muslim
You can view it as they want to continue following their desires and lack self accountability. They know if they accept Islam, the truth, then they have to let go of their desires, which a lot do not want to do.
I found the perfect balance in Hamza. His mannerism, tone, assertiveness, his succint responses and ofcourse his knowledge base is what really stood out for me.
Yes mashallah he is absolutely amazing!
Definitely, I love how he reigns in Hijab and allows him to defend his position all while allowing his own points to flow into the discussion.
Hamza is a gem. Ma sha Allah
Absolutely
Mohammad is far more articulate deep learning and strongly speaking
Everybody's gangsta until Muhammad hijab start using new English words
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I couldn't stop smiling while Muhammad Hijab was speaking, and the youth in the background were softly smiling. They knew that Islam is the truth. May Allah increase our eman and give us Muslims the pride that we had once upon a time. 🤲
ameen yaa rabb...
Ameen Ya Rabb Al Alamiin
Only other Muslims turned up to listen, thats why there are only smiles. No one else really cared enough to even turn up!
@@jamieguthrie1760there were many claps for athiestic points. Sure more of the islamic ones. But there were quite a few athiests there too.
@@jamieguthrie1760nobody will ever clap for you when you're this proud
Ex Christian and Muslim Alhamdulillah 😇💫☪️
MachaAllah ❤🎉
What changed your mind from Christianity to Islam?
What was your initial reason for becoming a Christian?
Nothing proud about jumping from madness to insanity 😂
@@AnonymousAlien2099 what do you mean by that?
What religion are you?
Anybody that knows Christianity, but most importantly Jesus Christ can never leave Him for Islamic paganism.
Alhamdellah I'm a Muslim. I love this deen everyday more and more.
Hijab didn't go into this with "conversation" energy 😂
He came in with speakers corner energy 😂
indeed))))
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I accepted Islam yesterday. Proud to be Muslim. ❤ 😊
Ayyeee Congratulations!! Welcome to Islam😊😊
Allahu akbar welcome my may Allah make you strong in the religion and make you happy with your fantastic choice❤
ALHAMDULILAH
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ALHAMDULILAH Congratulations
Mohammed hijab has helped me actually be proud of my religion and to start practicing it 6-7 years ago. May Allah reward you immensly.
Love these vids! I am an athiest south african and i encourage more debates!
" I got 20 seconds ,so I'm gonna recite the Quran". And recites surah Ikhlas
Just amazing
Love you Muhammad Hijab❤❤❤
Alhamdulillah
I am very disappointed with how he acted seeing as how respectful the opponents were. They aren’t career islamophobes for him to justify this behavior
@@ILoveLuhaidan brother, if you watch his other videos, you will understand the nature of this man
. He is love
@@ILoveLuhaidan Pdf file atheists force homosexuality on kids in order to condition them for dingy dingy with pdf file atheists from a very early age.
@@ILoveLuhaidanyou are right buddy
But
M.hijab speaks like that
It seems harsh
But
I'm from afghanistan
I totally get it
*Timestamps:*
00:00 - Introduction
02:49 - Background of the Panelists
07:01 - Format of the Discussion
08:20 - Other Panelists
09:06 - Opening Statement by Eron
24:19 - Opening Statement by Mohammed Hijab:
(Arguments for the existence of God)
30:06 - Arguments for God being only One
32:13 - Proof of Prophethood of Muhammad ﷺ
37:22 - Response to Eron's arguments
38:58 - Mohammed Hijab recites the Qur'an
39:34 - Opening Statement by Mark
58:27 - Opening Statement by Hamza Tzortzis
59:09 - Islamic response to the Problem of Evil
1:00:13 - Islamic Response to the Euthyphro dilemma
1:01:39 - The Qur'anic argument of prior cognitive information
1:16:25 - Ethics & Naturalism
1:19:12 - Objective Truth of Morality: Islam vs Liberalism/Atheism
1:30:08 - Eron's contentions & Hijab's response
1:34:10 - Discussion on Infinities
1:36:25 - Eron's argument against God's omniscience
1:38:00 - Debunking Eron's argument
1:40:53 - Discussion on Beliefs/Mind of God
1:43:37 - God vs Infinity
1:47:36 - Claim of grounding Objective Ethics in Suffering
1:49:55 - Refutation of the Suffering claim
1:50:50 - Eron's response about Suffering
1:51:36 - Scrutinizing Eron's response
1:55:00 - Hamza's review of the discussion so far
1:57:22 - The Problem of Evil & its Islamic response
2:00:54 - Argument of Contradiction of God creating evil
2:03:18 - Refutation of the Argument
2:06:54 - Closing
Please continue
Thank you for your hard work
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bro watched on 2x speed
jazakullauhu khayrun
AI generated timestamps:
00:13 🎙 Event intro on religious dialogue.
01:25 🌍 Fostering communal belief discussions in Africa.
02:09 🔍 Deep importance of religious questions.
03:19 📚 Panelists' introductions in philosophy and theology.
07:04 📊 Discussion format outlined.
23:50 🕊 Logical argument from evil presented.
26:21 🔄 Contradictions in "limitless becoming limited."
27:00 💡 Naturalism as explanation for equality.
27:38 📜 Necessity of an independent, eternal being.
28:27 🔄 Contingent things indicating a necessary being.
32:38 💼 Prophet Muhammad's accurate predictions.
41:12 💬 Secular ethics rooted in suffering alleviation.
43:32 🤝 Kant's Categorical Imperative for morality.
46:03 🔄 Rawls' "veil of ignorance" for moral principles.
49:49 ❌ Apostasy, enforcement of belief.
50:17 ⚖ Apostasy punishment, Rushdie's fatwa.
52:08 🔴 Charlie Hebdo, depictions of Muhammad.
52:36 📚 Rules on depictions mostly apply to believers.
53:04 🔥 Quranic penalties and secular morality conflict.
54:01 ✋ Disproportionate punishments in Quran.
55:00 👥 Quranic penalties differ from secular views.
56:16 🌈 Sharia law's stance on homosexuality.
01:15:27 🧪 Debating moral perspectives.
01:18:08 🌍 Ontologies in moral philosophy.
01:20:13 🤔 Assumption of universal moral philosophies.
01:24:18 💬 Objective morality debates.
01:31:26 🗣 Need for respectful discourse.
01:36:10 🧐 Problem of God's omniscience and infinity.
01:36:51 🤔 God's knowledge and infinity conflict.
01:37:19 🌌 Qualitative vs. quantitative infinity.
01:40:21 💡 Attributes and infinite limitations.
01:45:07 🤝 Objectivity of ethics, grounded in suffering.
01:58:07 🤖 Argument on evil's existence and substantiation.
01:58:22 🛡 Good's degrees and argument's relevance.
01:58:58 💼 Divine wisdom and evil's absence.
01:59:28 💬 Deflection countered, evil and wisdom discussed.
02:00:11 📚 Accounts of good, wisdom, and evil.
thank you broski!!
Which ai? Is it bard ?
Which ai was used brother?
@@sediqiafghan6575 he used opus clip
Logical argument from evil?? Presented?
55:59 The two GUYS behind Hijab are smiling with joy, they are like me in a hurry to listen to the response of the Hijab and Hamza duo
I’ve been a Muslim for 20 years Alhamdullilah
Mashallah
We often take it for granted, but us born muslims are blessed.
I swear to God ever since I realised the reality of life I always constantly remind me that we are so blessed to be Muslims. I know for sure one super good man in my lineage would have converted from Hinduism to Muslim in South India ---- Imagine the blessings this soul must be getting.... May Allah raise this person who brought us to the right path.... I believe we would have converted anywhere between 400-500 years back.... Alhamdullillah Islam is the right thing to have anywhere we live.
Alhamdulillah, i envy you. I was born in a Christian family and i wish i accepted Islam earlier even though we are all born muslims.
I was thinking about that today at Jumm'ah Salah
@@abayomrunkojemusa9086don't think of it like that as guidance came to you and you accepted and thus having all your previous sins forgiven Masha'Allah. I often wonder if I wasn't born Muslim and someone gave me Da'wah, would I accept?
May Allah keep you and us steadfast upon this religion and may He also guide your family to the Deen like He has with you. Ameen
for real, alhamdulillah
terribly organized event.. but nevertheless an incredible discussion!!!! May Allah SWT protect and bless Brothers Hamza & Mohammad
Mashallah both Mohammed and Hamza NEVER seize to amaze me❤️
As a South African I'm quite disappointed with the extremely poor organisation of this discussion. How could they not book the room for longer than the expected time the debate was intended to run for? Additionally there were several disturbances and the chair kept talking at length instead of timekeeping.
Bro I was so confused as to why he was talking for so long.
absolutely. They fly these gentlemen over from wherever country in the world and literally only have 2 hours for a debate between 4 intellectuals? What a joke and disappointment.
Exactly there were abig let down, 3 hours minimum
@@RessanLawit’s not even 2 hours it’s been majority interrupting and the guy with the long hair on the panel barely even talked
Yea and him going "uhhh" for 2 seconds before every sentence was so annoying and time wasting.
I am a Muslim and today I'm also a muslim ☪️😊
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Alhamdulilah
Alhadulillah 😂😂
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Lmao Alhamdullilah aki 😂😅❤
MashAllah! Alhamdulilah for having these opportunities. This was such a good setting and an amazing opportunity. As a South African who has served on very similar MSA committees I must say this was gearing up to be flawless and got completely unnecessarily interfered with by the uncle in the end. That was such poor form and uncalled for. The chair of the debate interjected when he really should not have either and when you invite speakers of such magnitude and who are known for being dynamic, what do you expect? I don't know why I was so bothered by this I am posting a comment. I just make duah Allah can help us all control our ego and respect renowned scholars who have dedicated decades to learning this religion.
Thank you so much for uploading this entire debate in 1080p!
Downloaded it & will turn it into clips to share with people
its going to be great
you uncivilised big baby
womp womp cry about it 😂🤡
An Atheist asked Ahmed Deedat:
How would you feel if you died and discovered that the Hereafter was a lie?
Ahmed Deedat replied: Not worse than when you die and discover that the Hereafter is the TRUTH.
Islam will win with or without you, but without Islam you will get lost and lose.
I would reply that the question is erroneous. That question can only be raised under the ideology of islam i.e there is space for thought process/a paradigm where one can think and regret/celeberate his death. Under athiesm, there is nothing after death..... how can one think after death under arhiesm..... he is finished..... gone.....!
@@muhammadkhurramiqbal Nice Bro, but just think about it which is more rational?
@@AyKuTRyu definitely having the belief in hereafter and keeping the safe side. Deedat sb is has said the right thing
@@muhammadkhurramiqbal Excellent!
I like your attitude bro😉
Brother there are multiple religions that indicates god is none of them
1:06:48 I LOVED that little back handed slap there!!
Absolutely genius ❤️
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00:00 🎙️ Introduction to the Discussion
09:15 🤔 Defining Rationality and Overview
11:08 🕊️ Arguments for Atheism
16:59 🤨 Arguments for Atheism (continued)
24:05 🧐 Conclusion of Arguments for Atheism
24:22 🤖 Beginning of the discussion on the existence of God.
29:07 🛡️ Discussing the uniqueness of one God.
32:23 💼 Introducing evidence for the truth of Islam.
39:47 ⚖️ Shifting to the discussion of morality and secular ethics.
48:12 📜 Comparing secular ethics to religious morality.
49:49 🕌 Addressing the issue of apostasy in Sharia law.
50:03 📜 Discussion on Controversial Religious Views
58:23 🧐 Arguments for God's Existence and Responses to Atheism
01:02:07 🤯 Argument from Cognitive Information
01:11:59 🤖 Grounding Morality in Transcendent Agent
01:13:49 🧐 Critique of Atheism's Philosophical Underpinnings
01:16:00 📚 Open Discussion on Morality and Worldviews
01:24:04 🤯 Challenges to Secular Ethics and Ethical Relativism
01:27:14 🔎 Assessing the Universality of Moral Frameworks
01:31:26 🤝 Panel Discussion Introduction
01:35:12 🧐 Examining the Notion of Actual Infinities
01:38:00 🧠 Philosophical Grounding for Objective Morality
01:51:29 🧠 The discussion addresses the instrumental value of suffering and the distinction between psychological and ethical aspects of pain.
01:52:11 🧐 Examining the concept of "objective" and its relevance to grounding moral values in naturalism.
01:53:06 🤔 Discussing the compatibility of naturalism with the concept of divine attributes and non-physical features.
01:54:17 🗣 Addressing interruptions and disagreements within the discussion, emphasizing the importance of respect and civility.
01:55:03 🙏 Reflecting on the intention and atmosphere of the conversation, discussing the role of academics, and addressing the perception of bias.
01:57:11 🧐 Analyzing the philosophical arguments related to the existence of evil and divine wisdom.
01:58:58 🤯 Exploring theological perspectives on the existence of evil and divine wisdom, considering privation and Divine Command theory.
02:00:26 🤯 Expanding on the philosophical arguments related to God's attributes, goodness, and the absence of good.
02:03:14 📚 Reflecting on the ongoing philosophical discussion, referencing Islamic scholars' perspectives on the absence of good.
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- Acknowledgment of the importance of religious questions in human history and conflict.
- [09:15](ruclips.net/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/видео.html) 🤔 Defining Rationality and Overview
- Distinguishing between epistemic and pragmatic rationality.
- Focusing on epistemic rationality in the context of atheism vs. theism.
- Introduction to key terms: God, atheism, theism, naturalism, and supernaturalism.
- [11:08](ruclips.net/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/видео.html) 🕊 Arguments for Atheism
- Arguments against the existence of God being philosophically persuasive.
- Highlighting the absence of compelling evidence for God's existence.
- Introduction of the deductive argument from absence of evidence.
- [16:59](ruclips.net/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/видео.html) 🤨 Arguments for Atheism (continued)
- Presenting a family of arguments against theism, including logical incoherence and poor explanatory power.
- Focusing on the logical argument from evil by J.L Schellenberg.
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- Invitation for further discussion and exploration of presented arguments.
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- Exploring explanations for the universe's existence, including the concept of a necessary being.
- Differentiating between finite chains of dependence and infinite chains, highlighting the absurdity of an infinite chain of dependencies.
- Arguing for the existence of a necessary being to make sense of dependent things.
- [29:07](ruclips.net/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/видео.htmlm7s) 🛡 Discussing the uniqueness of one God.
- Explaining why there can only be one necessary being.
- Touching on Quranic arguments and verses that support the idea of one God.
- Emphasizing the idea of an overarching, singular will as a foundation for the universe's stability and regularity.
- [32:23](ruclips.net/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/видео.htmlm23s) 💼 Introducing evidence for the truth of Islam.
- Presenting the prophetic predictions made by the Prophet Muhammad, including geopolitical events and societal changes.
- Highlighting the accuracy and unambiguous nature of these predictions as evidence for Islam's validity.
- [39:47](ruclips.net/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/видео.htmlm47s) ⚖ Shifting to the discussion of morality and secular ethics.
- Defining the criteria for a good moral theory, including coherence, consistency, and universality.
- Presenting two secular approaches to morality: one grounded in the avoidance of suffering and the other based on rationality and universal laws.
- [48:12](ruclips.net/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/видео.htmlm12s) 📜 Comparing secular ethics to religious morality.
- Explaining the adaptability and inclusivity of secular ethics compared to religious moral codes.
- Discussing the potential challenges of adhering to immutable religious texts in a changing world.
- [49:49](ruclips.net/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/видео.htmlm49s) 🕌 Addressing the issue of apostasy in Sharia law.
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- [50:03](ruclips.net/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/видео.html) 📜 Discussion on Controversial Religious Views
- Discussion about controversial religious views.
- Ayatollah Khomeini's fatwa against Salman Rushdie.
- Debate on the morality of punishing apostates.
- Controversy surrounding depictions of the Prophet Muhammad.
- Examination of Quranic verses related to non-believers and their punishments.
- [58:23](ruclips.net/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/видео.html) 🧐 Arguments for God's Existence and Responses to Atheism
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- Refutation of the problem of evil argument.
- Discussion on the arbitrariness of God's commands.
- Introduction of the "quranic argument of Prior cognitive information."
- Examination of the necessity of prior cognitive information for human judgment and thoughts.
- [01:02:07](ruclips.net/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/видео.html) 🤯 Argument from Cognitive Information
- Presentation of an argument for the existence of God based on cognitive information.
- Explanation of why human beings require prior cognitive information for judgments.
- Examination of potential sources of prior cognitive information and their inadequacies.
- Discussion on the limitations of naturalistic explanations.
- Conclusion that a non-natural agent best explains prior cognitive information.
- [01:11:59](ruclips.net/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/видео.html) 🤖 Grounding Morality in Transcendent Agent
- Morality must be grounded in a non-natural Transcendent agent.
- The agent should be living, willing, transcendent, and omniscient to explain morality.
- Atheism fails to provide a rational basis for morality.
- [01:13:49](ruclips.net/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/видео.html) 🧐 Critique of Atheism's Philosophical Underpinnings
- Atheism as a form of philosophical naturalism, scientism, and post-modernism.
- Atheism struggles to explain the foundation of rationality, truth, and morality.
- It lacks an objective basis for morality and cognition.
- [01:16:00](ruclips.net/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/видео.html) 📚 Open Discussion on Morality and Worldviews
- Discussion on various worldviews and their moral foundations.
- Critique of secular ethical frameworks.
- The importance of recognizing different ontologies and cosmologies in ethical discussions.
- [01:24:04](ruclips.net/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/видео.html) 🤯 Challenges to Secular Ethics and Ethical Relativism
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- Questions regarding the objectivity of ethics and moral grounding.
- Discussion on the implications of different moral frameworks.
- [01:27:14](ruclips.net/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/видео.html) 🔎 Assessing the Universality of Moral Frameworks
- A focus on the universality of moral frameworks and their origins.
- The role of cultural and historical context in shaping moral philosophies.
- Exploring the concept of rights within different ethical systems.
- [01:31:26](ruclips.net/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/видео.html) 🤝 Panel Discussion Introduction
- Panel discussions commence with a focus on assertive speech, structural issues, and disagreement handling.
- [01:35:12](ruclips.net/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/видео.html) 🧐 Examining the Notion of Actual Infinities
- Debate about the existence of actual infinities in different contexts.
- Differentiating between qualitative and quantitative infinities.
- Discussing the applicability of actual infinities to God's attributes.
- [01:38:00](ruclips.net/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/видео.html) 🧠 Philosophical Grounding for Objective Morality
- Exploring the philosophical basis for objective morality.
- Linking suffering, axiological values, and moral reasons.
- Discussing the concept of rights in relation to vital interests and suffering.
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A bit disappointed honestly. I am an engineer/computer scientist, and have been practicing Islam for nearly 10 years now. I am not philosophically trained, nor religiously trained, and my knowledge is primarily from RUclips lectures and/or books. Despite that, I could find so many problematic and inconsistent statements with the atheists' positions. I expected more, I wanted to be challenged.
Indeed, if we build walls of intellectualism upon foundations of truth, these walls would be unshakably and firmly grounded on all fronts. And walls of intellectualism built upon falsehood will always end in collapse. Alhamdulillah for Islam.
The challenge is knowing that the opposition to the truth always have the same mechanical behaviour. It is just like reciting quran getting to the ayah of satan telling his feelings, or hearing about the wrong doers, then come the next week or the next month or the next year (depending upon how much time it takes to complete reading the quran) and hearing the same phrase of satan telling us his feelings or hearing about the wrong doers. So much so it becomes like periods of the moon or heavenly bodies. The deniers arguments being so predictable.
Scientist of engineering in chemicals of materials here.
Same. What we saw here was a respectful display from atheists, which is uncommon from past debates like with krauss, aron ra or wood, and that is why atheists struggle. It s because when the atheist doesnt play semantics or attack with ad homs, his position becomes painfully obviously as an emotional dogmatist..
Here to say that I am sorry you thought that atheism was suppose to be a challenge. There is no challenge to Islam. Only a challenge to muslims. Holdfast and Alhadmullilah!
@@lovelylittlemuur indeed, Alhamdulillah!
@@ummerfarooq5383That’s very well put.
For those who are sure in their faith, the deniers arguments are like wails that come routinely like periodic chore.
That Oppenheimer got shut down hard 😂 Tried his best to attack Islam instead of responding to the arguments, utter failure.
He failed hard
He didnt recover anymore
@crusader7356you’re very delusional. these people are nothing compared to hijab. he’s highly educated on the topics he discusses, cant be say about his opponents.
jp one was not a debate but a discussion.
@crusader7356 Don't be desperate boy. You typing comment saying he lost all debates doesn't make it true objectively. Come out of your delusional and watch his debate with open and rational mind but of course, what can we expect from people who cannot even rationally think that it is impossible for something to come out of nothing. He won all the debates but only an openminded person can see that not a sheep like you follows the rules and customs of the West. If you are told that a man can become a woman and vice versa, a boy can identify himself a dog or any other thing, eating meeting is wrong, homosexuality is right, you just believe it blindly without even thinking with your own mind. If a person doesn't want to see the truth, you can't force him to see it.
@crusader7356 ah yes the audience, who most of them clapped in applause and belief towards what mohammad hijab was saying, was on the opposing side, who had 2 people applause at one point, 2.
mashallah, allahumma barek. I started laughing so hard as soon as mohammeds opening started, clear winner mindset keep doing you thing
Muhammad Hijab is very talented! Subhanallah, Alhamdulillah, Allah has blessed him with a remarkably retentive memory. I've watched many of his debates, and most of the time, he speaks without referring to a paper or any device. What a blessing to the ummah!
I have a question, MH. How do you remember so much accurately while speaking quickly and articulately?
Wow, the chair and board were so patronising in their approach ! Just as the debate was improving they cut off Tzortzis and Hijab
Bunch of clowns.
The university host guys were very disruptive. I don't understand why they acted as if they had authority over the debaters arguments
The host in the middle started presenting his own point of view and took 5 mints what he thinks but couldn't conclude 🤣🤣🤣
Because they are anti muslim hindus
@@truth80855 minutes until hijab interrupted him. God knows how long he would have gone on for. He was clout chasing of hijabs name and tried to include himself in the debate.
I always watch your full videos. But audio quality of this video is not good as others. Please make sure about your audio quality next time . Love from Bangladesh ❤
Alhamdulilah I'm muslim ☪️ ❤️
Nobody cares.
The moderators were quite unfair but Muhammad hijab still came on top !!! Well done!!!!!
The moderators were way too biased in this debate .. Props to Hamaz and Muhammad Hijab for not letting them push them around
In fact, most people do not believe in religion to avoid responsibility. Because they are afraid of not living the life they want. Why should they believe in a religion that prohibits alcohol, pork, gambling, premarital sex, eating interest, commands giving alms to the poor, and commands prayer 5 times a day?
Yall don't get Hijab 😅 he cares about you that much to get that passionate or hype in today's terms.. much love and appreciation for a such a rich conversation.
The panel guys said “uh ehm eh” 50% of the time. Thanks to Hijab for shutting him down.
The one thing I really love about Hijab is his constant return to the Quran. He is a gem, mashallah.
I love how he also clarifies that they strawman and or lie on their sources of Islam like in regards to that slavery topic
Menstruation topic*
Alhamdulilah to be shia muslim as Prophet advised sahabas at ghadeer and hadith of Saqalain that Quran goes hand in hand with ahlul bayt. In order to understand Quran we need ahlul bayt.
Unfortunately many hypocrits hidden as sahabas tried to stopped them with their cruelty and brutality.
@@syedbaqir2687 🤡
@@syedbaqir2687Do not argue and fighting with each other. We are muslims. Any differences between us, just come back to Quran, sunnah and Hadith of Prophet Muhammad. Period.
amazing debate.. please try to have a better sound recording in future.
Congratulations brother may Allah grant you the highest level in Janna Ameen and also bless your family as well ❤
Unapologetically Muslim 💪☝️❤
Proud to be Muslim... Alhamdulillah !!!
اَلحَمْدُلِله
@jrgenstorm6536 I smell something burning ....
Oh it's your heart !!
@jrgenstorm6536Why do you care ?
Haha, don't you believe in gay love an peace Hahaha
💯💪 ☝️✊🌹
@AhmadTamimi257
Not just his heart is burning brother, it is his ass as well
Now I’ve seen it all… moderators interrupting a debate to then interject their own views and opinions instead of letting the panelists argue their points🤦🏻♂️
Right? I was like what the hell . Why is he interfering and interjecting and saying “I think” 😅what a weird way to moderate
Its literally a discussion and not a debate. I think the moderator mentioned that at the start itself.
@@mitefum6310 Yes, a discussion between the panelists, not between the panelists and the moderators.
Really strange behavior from the moderators. Especially the Muslim brother who accused them of having egos
i think they was frustrated that they organised a debate agaisnt the muslim brothers and did bring the best of the best and still the brothers handled that very easly, they made a trap that didnt work at all 😂
ما شاء الله تبارك الله
Bro Hijab I love the way you speak to the atheists. How can someone who denies the existence of a Creater ever be respected?
May Allah bless you for the izzah you and bro Hamza have demonstrated that Islam and the Muslims should have.
Should people respect a pedophile? A stone kisser? A rapist? A murderer? A satanic worshiper? 🤮
What if simply the scriptures and all of the claims it makes is simply not satisfactory answer. I'm not a religious person, more of agnostic type. Regardless, if you wanna have a debate then you have to be respectful for even the opposing views. When someone is disrespectful to Hijab, every muslim will jump to his defense and say stuff like "Hijab was respectful and this person acted like a fool" etc but when he is being disrespectful and throwing tantrum, its suddenly okay.
May Allah preserve you, proud of Muhammad Hijab Masha Allah :D
Man I like hijabs approach we don't need anymore apologetic approaches to defend what's right
Also the panel people are literally babies
Spot on this is exactly why they can't handle him. The Western intellectuals have been acting arrogantly and unchallenged for far too long things are about to change.
Christian are wiping Muslim all through out
Berani kerana benar,takut kerana salah
I love M Hijab , I love the fact he doesn’t let anyone intimidate him , they tried it . Well done brother
Our brothers in Islam Alhamdulillah diffending our Faith.
Go forth our warriors in defending Islam and spreading the TRUTH, Islam. اللهم أحفظهم من كل شر❤
I always imagined what it was like to sit amongst the philosophers and just listen, I honestly felt like I watched the modern version, just annoying that the chairs had to keep interrupting, this conversation should be untimed .
Yeah, it was disastrous. Should've been a discussion with no timed segments
Respect to Hijab for not letting their attempts at silencing him stop him.
These athiests need to speak with their chest and argue the points, instead of crying about being scared and “uncomfortable” about Hijab’s tone of voice lol. They should expect different personalities and styles of debating.
And also, the panellist moderators were absolutely unprofessional and rude. What a joke.
Agreed
Absolutely spot on
But this wasn't a debate, it was supposed to be a discussion...
@@kamranabbasi6757yes but regardless some people have a more assertive and authoritative personality, this is how Hijab is and always has been, if you are a grown up you should have no issue accepting this rather than being intimidated by it
Does he always have to be theatrical and dramatic with warrior pose?
Do not confuse a Muslim’s need to be humble with their right to fight back when required. Our Prophet (SAW) was the kindest and most humble human to ever exist, but he also went to war to protect the ummah. Both can exist at the same time. Well done brother Hijab! ❤
Hijab was unnecessarily boisterous and interruptive in this one. He needed to talk far less.
@@jodolski if you’re focusing on that rather than the content of what he said and the arguments he put across that the atheists didn’t even have a proper answer for, then you’re looking at this the wrong way and maybe not mature enough to see the bigger picture
@@specter1019 I’m not dismissing the merits of the Muslim arguments. They were solid. The atheists didn’t have a chance to respond. Debates like these don’t deserve to be confined to 2 hour sessions to be honest. It would’ve been better to focus on a single question / subject area and expand on that for hours instead of asking 4 or 6 different questions that acted as offshoots to a pretty general question.
@@jodolski i agree with you on that completely.
@@jodolskiunderstand that people have different personalities and he doesn’t have to fit your pacific style and personality just because you feel uncomfortable with some heat in a normal yet critical discussion. Bro, stop talking like women, when they have no ground to respond on, they attack the way a person speaks, it’s a very known tactic among lawyers. It is said, if you don’t have an argument, play the man!
Hijab was appropriate considering the context, enough with this passive approach that you grow up with because you are afraid to be accused of being aggressive and extremist nonsense.
Excellent discussion. Thank you. And bless you for your advocacy for Palestine.
Jazak Allah brother hijab and hamza, once again the truth crushes falsehood.
If anyone thinks that because you are a muslim, you have to be subordinate and humble in all times and situations, you are simply wrong. Well done brother Hijab!
Who said Muslims are humble…haha…
@@Hitchens-k9sme
@@Hitchens-k9ssit back down athiest.
You do have to always be humble as a Muslim, remember you can bring people to Islam with just your akhlaq alone.
@@yushaibnegwa9756 exactly and from hijabs conduct alone i dont think any non muslim will be delving deeper into islam because of him regardless of how sound his arguments may be
This is not only exciting but it’s truly monumental. A first of its kind. Thank you MH and HT. Hopefully, there are many more debates like this from now on. Takbeer!!!
اللہ اکبر
ALLAH AKBAR
Allahu Akbar
Allaahu Akbar
Allahu Akbar
2nd time watching the debate, IM DEAD WITH THE MODERATOR TRYNA JUMP INTO THE DISCUSSION LMAOOOO
1:24:02 That Oppenheimer really is a piece of work! He really does have a superiority complex
M Hijab my childhood friend. So proud of your brother. He was an intellectual guy and took over our politics class with his smartness, Mashallah
Alhamdulillah
Really 😍🥰😍😍
Proud to have friend like hijab bhaiya ( elder brother)
I am from India
17 yrs old going to be 18 yrs old
Was he always like that :D?
@@dadush4 you got to practice when you're young
تو كون هو؟
I think MH got heated because the atheists kept missing the points of the questions the muslims were putting forward and then the atheists make a sly comment about some Islamic legal concept they deem as wrong. 1. They fail to answer questions. 2. They make false comments about Islam. 3. They tell MH to calm down when he raises his voice. This discussion was an awkward mess especially with the weird hosts' interjections and passive aggressiveness.
They also came into the discussion of morality with the belief that their view is correct, which infuriated Hijab since he was asking why they thought that.
Notice how they didn’t respond to why they think their morality should be the only way for everyone.
1. presentation/introduction panel peoples were very unprofessional shuttering and lacking and interrupt in very important moment 2x.
2. mark oppenheimer start to gives examples from the Quran about morality Which they don't know what they are talking about, they don't even study the Classic Arabic so they don't know classic Arabic. all of this things the mark has been mentioned or talk about from the Quran about morality those things has been dealt with so many time and answered, some claims he made are not from the Quran, some of them are just blunt lies that has been made up by islamophobs long long time ago. it just shows his (mark) lack of research about this topic before came into panel.
3. after that Muhammad Hijab got angry. he never should get angry or triggered by this people also I want to say to Mark that he never should talk about those things he doesn't know/researched completely or fully about those topic.
4. I also believe Hamza also get trigger or angry after mark speech. and later Hamza and Hijab made little bit of fun or bully the Atheist panel. which I don't support also I don't support mark it just shows his lack of research about this topic before came into panel.
5. this discussion was not about morality it was about the existence of god true or false.
6. my discussion rating over all 7.5/10
the question remained unanswered
The point MH was making was simple and they knew they were stuck. As an atheist you have no basis of morality, so when you choose to make an assessment on it, you have to at least show were your basis is. MH was saying..since you won't make it clear, your statement seems to be based off a system that is infallible and morally proven to cause more damage in the lifespan of it's activity. Where as we (Muslims) have had a guide on moral truths from creation, and then reaffirmed through our final prophet. How dare he then pass judgement from a vacuum or even a currpt system while then hiding your hands saying he wasn't there to tell where his actual source of morality stemmed from
True
God it's so frustrating. At the end when the conversation finally started to get really interesting they had to stop them.
Both atheist and theists had great points I got to learn alot from both sides
Atheist had nothing to say they got slaughtered by hijab perhaps they should had brought those points before
Tabarak Allah Mohamad hijab as always 💪🏼💪🏼please more stunning jazzak Allah xer
Mashallah brother.
4 years now since i converted to Islam, alhamdullilah! Thank you for everything you do Mr.Hijab. I love watching your videos!
What a fool you are!
Masha Allah,bro. welcome to the family
@@salahuddeenayyubi9515 Brother, I know you mean well, but welcome isn't the correct word.
@@AbdulAli786o why?
@@salahuddeenayyubi9515 He's been a revert for 4 years, I'm sure he's well acquainted with Islam. So welcome wouldn't be correct, but rather Ma Sha Allah
I am a Muslim (Bengali Canadian) and I once was steering towards atheism in my early 20s during my Bachelors'. Today, I am a proud Muslim and Brother Hijab and Brother Tzortzis are strongly responsible for rectifying my Aqeedah (creed). Thank you brothers! Fine work as always!
Hijab you show poor manners. Remember the learned used to learn manners before they learned knowledge. A lot of knowledge is ruined by poor manners. Whereas a small amount of knowledge is beautified by good manners
@@jjohn408 Why shouldn't he be enraged being treated like a child when he is clearly more qualified than all of the panel. Just because he has an 'assertive' voice (he himself mentioned after being disrupted many times throughout), what gives white men the right to shut him up? This is how Africans discuss, the voice is loud. Be 'inclusive'. Why do we always have to conform to white men standards of discussion?
@@jjohn408 Sometimes, righteous anger (indignance) is a virtue. This was one of those times. Speak out for your rights to speak. He did it in a well-mannered tone given the rudeness of the panel/speakers.
@@jjohn408 also, these two white men as usual attacked Islamic sharia law calling it barbaric essentially and also misrepresenting it. Typical white savior/white man's burden mentality. They committed the most racist and heinous and genocidal crimes the past few centuries and they wanna lecture us?! Get outta here!
@@chtadow13 Yes drag queen story hours is forcing homosexuality upon kids, which is conditioning them into a belief that having dingy dingy with adult pdf file atheists is normal.
This is why atheists and muslims agree so much on so many thing, because mupedohammad was pdf file too *sunan abi dawud 2121*
*_Remember:_*_ The international apostacy day for muslims is on 22nd of August_
Mash allah!! May Allah bless you my dear sisters and brother's.good job!!
Your are the best brother Mohammed Hajib
I was born Muslim and now I am a Muslim Alhamdulillah :)
Say "I was a Muslim by chance, now I am a Muslim by choice.
@@mohammedkhan1038 ....why follow Mohammed...he was poisoned like dog and died in pain..and his false god did not help him
No one is born Muslim. Your parents force-fed you their fairy-tale beliefs.
@@mohammedkhan10387 out of 10 new converts leave Islam within the first year as per PEW research centre
The hosts were unprofessional and influent in their language taking more time than giving their points. Moreover, I felt like MH and HT were not only being attacked by two atheists but the moderator and organisers too while they were trying to spread their point across the room. May Allah reward you brothers
Very intelligent brother Mohammed and Hamza like always.
1:26:52 The part that was highlighted the most. They avoided answering, and aksed a question. After that, they tried to answer, while hijab was discussing the answer, the chair interrupted him.
I respect the confidence of the brothers. They know they are in the right and they aren't afraid to make it crystal clear that they're not here to be lectured with no evidence.
Alhamdulilah to be shia muslim as Prophet advised sahabas at ghadeer and hadith of Saqalain that Quran goes hand in hand with ahlul bayt. In order to understand Quran we need ahlul bayt.
Unfortunately many hypocrits hidden as sahabas tried to stopped them with their cruelty and brutality.
@@syedbaqir2687 Quran says to follow muhajireen and Ansar. Who are the muhajireen?
You cannot find Shi'ism in the quran. But you can find the way of ahl al sunna wal jamaa
@@syedbaqir2687 No. In order to understand Qur'an you need Arabic.
@@fomfom843090% of non Arab Muslims themselves don’t understand Arabic…haha
Hijab was on fire MashAllah. Proper Speaker's Corner energy
As always ❤😅
I'm agnostic (at least in conventional terms), but enjoy listening to you and have gained a great appreciation for your debate skills.
you are welcome to islam anytime brother
نتمنى من القائمين على المناظرة ترجمتها بشكل كامل للعربية هناك جزء واحد منها فقط مترجم و نحن بنتظار الجزء الثاني
Lmao Brother Hijab was frustrated and fully annoyed at the end 😂 the irony is these athiests were complaining about how brother hijab and Hamza were interrupting them but they kept on doing the same thing throughout when both the brothers stopped interrupting. Moreover, the chair and the questioners were also interrupting brother hijab and Hamza again and again. This was a rather mismanaged and frustrating discussion or debate tbh.
1. presentation/introduction panel peoples were very unprofessional shuttering and lacking and interrupt in very important moment 2x.
2. mark oppenheimer start to gives examples from the Quran about morality Which they don't know what they are talking about, they don't even study the Classic Arabic so they don't know classic Arabic. all of this things the mark has been mentioned or talk about from the Quran about morality those things has been dealt with so many time and answered, some claims he made are not from the Quran, some of them are just blunt lies that has been made up by islamophobs long long time ago. it just shows his (mark) lack of research about this topic before came into panel.
3. after that Muhammad Hijab got angry. he never should get angry or triggered by this people also I want to say to Mark that he never should talk about those things he doesn't know/researched completely or fully about those topic.
4. I also believe Hamza also get trigger or angry after mark speech. and later Hamza and Hijab made little bit of fun or bully the Atheist panel. which I don't support also I don't support mark it just shows his lack of research about this topic before came into panel.
5. this discussion was not about morality it was about the existence of god true or false.
6. my discussion rating over all 7.5/10
and your completely right it was a mess
That moderator was mad annoying
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Mujahid it's important that you be aggressive sometimes
@@inclinedtheta810 global call centre Scam Capital.. I DIA!
I become muslim and I started reading Bhagvat Gita and now I am a hard-core muslim.
You had me for a second there
the gita is actually disgusting to read
I was atheist. Saw many Christian and Muslim debates and I am now A HARDCORE ATHEIST 😂
@@harryd8010you're well hard aren't you 🤡🤡
@@harryd8010harry we all saw your irrational and ad ridicule comments, nothing not expected buddy
This was very interesting. I lost the thread at the end though. Around 2:05:00 they discuss "There is nothing in creation better than what is." and how Islamic scholars discussed about its meaning for long time, and one of them wrote a book about it. Then the black suit guy asked what was the answer that was given, and blue suit guy looked like segmentation fault, several in the audience laughed, the guy with yellow hoodie facepalmed, the guy off-screen said let's move on, and the gray suit guy did. What happened there?
This is actually better than a Champions League final
The point we should all learn from Hijab is : Never let anyone intimidate you no matter what or where ‼️
Alhamdulilah to be shia muslim as Prophet advised sahabas at ghadeer and hadith of Saqalain that Quran goes hand in hand with ahlul bayt. In order to understand Quran we need ahlul bayt.
Unfortunately many hypocrits hidden as sahabas tried to stopped them with their cruelty and brutality.
Please my brother, do not backbite about the sahabas when you were not called to do it. @@syedbaqir2687
@@syedbaqir2687 liar, Allah made al-Quran to be understand for everyone. lying p o s
@@syedbaqir2687no room for shia stuff.
@@Mohamed_lemin_alyaqoubi Why are you scared. You people always used to say dont debate with shias LMAO HAHAHA because everything will break down.
Do you want to talk? I *CHALLANGE* you bring me ONE hadith about abu bakr caliphate. There is *NONE* . I have several for Imam Ali (AS)
Hijab and Hamza debating these two atheists is like Messi and Ronaldo playing football against two kids . Brother Hijab and Brother Hamza are way more experienced and competent academically and intellectually in this topic.😅
Well summed up !
And the panel of “academics” were amateurish and their lack of experience was very noticeable amongst academic giants and debaters like hamza and hijab - they lacked authority
The moderator was annoying and wasted valuable time with his ummimg “
Oppenheimer was literally speechless
The other guy was a waffler true to his profession
MashaAllah- brothers from UK you made us proud AllahuAkbar
Moderator is such a disappointment 😥
Ah ..ah ..ah... ah ...ah... ah
Been whipped by white supremacy
Good discussion, jazaka Allahu khairan, yes it was 4 against 2 . That's why لا يعلو مؤمن على كافر.
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@@simonjunior7404 cope
May Allah reward you brothers.
Ameen
I'm from SA and I'm ashamed at how this discussion was handled by the guy in blue! Why should we be submissive when they make false claims. I have the greatest of respect for both M. Hijab and Tzortis. May Allah bless you and keep you steadfast on this path. Allahu Akbr
wow the chair was so unprofessional and unorganised, could get even set a time for q/a. also the beeping noise so they had fix that issue and waste time. then they started to blame the 4 people because they did not get time for q/a. its not they fault its chair for not organising it properly
@@lokidedbeat1878 Imagine trying to blame the panelist’s when they couldn’t get the debate in order. What a bunch of clowns. SA I’m disappointed. If I was MH or Hamza I would decline any further invitations from them.
UJ embarrassed us properly Infront of academic giants
And what was up with the chairman and his erm erm erm and fancy hands? Also the uncle next to him coming out at the last moment to throw his toys out of the cot😂 As a former UJ student, this was totally embarrassing. Not mentioning the weak atheist arguments. Come on you're going up against 2 giants, is this the best UJ could put forward? Mohammed and Hamza are true legends. Alhamdulillah ALLAH PAK bless you for all the work you do and the many whome you inspire.
@lokidedbeat1878 the chair was great , if it was not it will give these to muslims free range for spewing their hatred towards these two guys.
This was a great debate minus the self righteous university organizers who only degraded the discussion
Hijab was smirking at the start and then got angry. 😂 He can never do wrong in my eyes. He is such a credit to the ummah. Allah Hu Akbar.
Never
im watching for his reactions lool >.
Wrong or good is basically on people's feelings nothing else
@@thewesternworld9695wrong or right depends upon harm or happiness…and it is decided by human beings and not any imaginary god…
@@Hitchens-k9s feelings dictate everything people's lives nothing but harmful or good behaviour don't exist in humanity lifetime
As a South African academic I'm embarrassed.. As a Muslim this strengthened my faith in Allah and islam
Academic 🤣😂🤣
small things amuses small minds@@talentfinder575
@@talentfinder575Yes, academic is a word. You can look it up in the dictionary if you don't know its meaning.
@@HH_1988 I didn't bother responding to that but thank you..
@talentfinder575 don't you know what academic means? Is the word itself funny sounding to you ?