H.E Ian Khama, Former President of Botswana In Conversation With Trevor
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- In this week's episode, Trevor sits with H.E Ian Khama, Former President of Botswana. They discuss why H.E. Ian Khama is in exile in South Africa, Botswana under the leadership of President Mokgweetsi E.K. Masisi - the mistake he made in making him his successor. They also discuss what Africa needs to do for democracy to be embedded, the Prospects of reconciliation between him and President Masisi, and many more.
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Khama ruled Botswana in one of the best. Masisi is a Dictator.
Trevor questions are already based and I suspect the interview is staged. Careful Trevor for ur reputation
In Botswana we live harmoniously with our neighbours Zimbabwe, we no longer harass, in prison them, arrest them and then take them by busses to Zimbabwe under the presidency of MEK Masisi.
AO ora gore ma zim are no longer being deported even if they dont have documentation?
Viva Great Mother Africa
Illegal immigrants are a problem.
Khama u preached and harassed Mugabe. Learn to accept that u are no longer in office, let the current President rule until his time is gone too.
I remember vividly that Khama used to be mean about & to Zimbabwe during Mugabe's tenure. He thought Botswana was not in Africa. Welcome to Africa Khama. Now you're in S Africa Africa becz? I do not feel sorry for him .
Would you make some attempts to bring President Masisi on the show to hear his side of the story, that will surely give us a well balanced overview on what is going on between them. Thanks Trevor for quality content always.
Absolutely
True
You have more chance of interviewing Jesus before getting that clown to sit with Trevor. This man has ten years under his belt backing up his commitment to democracy and running a sound economy.
So this statement saying you need to get the other guy in for a balanced view is nothing but a Zimbabwean way of thinking.
A good man once said -
Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid
Do you think a sitting president will sit at a podcast for a tit for tat.
@@thetad1242 Why not?? You are funny.
Khama should also be reminded that former president Mogae regret chosing him as his vice president.
😅😅😅... Now Trevor you interview Mr Mogae and ask him why he said that. So that the whole world can hear it. Do it Mr Ncube.. Don't be one sided.. 😳😳
In Botswana we are a free nation, we speak openly, not afraid of DIS but during my former presidency this was not easy ask Batswana.
True
Maaka, lies. Member of parliament are routinely arrested with no charges. Anyone who is a perceived to be political threat to Masisi can be put behind bars for no reason, yet cowards like you will justify it
True 100% , we are more free an when Khama was president
U can just say that again
As a Zim national residing in Botswana , I feel this Interview was very single sided….expected better from Trevor
True
Agree with you
Maybe he has to conduct another interview with President Masisi.
Go back to Zimbabwe, letebele ke wena
HERE we are free in botswana since you left office this man was a monster.i
Well said
BW is free after the departure of that man, Ian was a pain to Batswana
yes to the drunkards and the lazy and indisciplined who never want to work.
Very true, we happier than when he was president
With due respect I am Motswana I love all my presidents, you media people if you keep on interviewing one or two people not Batswana you are not doing us any good you better stop!!!
What is the truth. Tell us
1 or 2 pple not Motswana ??? Is Khama not Mostwana?? Be clear
What is the difference between motswana batstwana and Botswana?
@@JesusisLord78,
Motswana(One citizen), Batswana(More than one citizen),
Botswana(Name of the country).
At the time Khama left office he had already been displaying significant reluctance to leave office. He also harbored the hope that he would remain the power behind the throne. The person who chose Khama as a compromise candidate to takeover the presidency, H.E. Mogae, has previously expressed extreme regret at choosing him in the first place 🤷
Khama left the presidency with no problem, even if don’t like the man , don’t tell lies.
We love our current PRESIDENT,and he is the best we ever had.Khama thinks we stil in Berlin era, no one is above the law. He should come and account for things that happened under his leadership
Greetings to president Khama and thanks you Trevor
Well done Trevor for " going beyond borders" . A breath of fresh air . Keeping doing that and broaden our regional knowledge. Great interview. Khama is the G OAT we love him here in Zimbabwe
Take him to Zimbabwe then
Thank you, Khaya.
Yini linga mthathi. Thina ka simfuni
You can have him.
You can have him 🤧🤷♂️
Jus looking at SKI it really breaks my heart seeing how they are treating this man.I like ths man despite whatever they are accusing him.Masisi it's high time u make peace n I knw Batswana pipo are proud of u two.U are a very peaceful country in our continent plz qolelanani in watever th conflict z n move on ....# PEAC
I just love the humbleness in this man Sir Seretse Ian Khama. So humble you can't even believe he was once a President. May peace reign between the two leaders. @ Trevor, thank you for a wonderful conversation.
You are welcome Anderson,
He is not Humble,He is and that's a fact,a slave master..
so humble that he allowed an American base in Bots. shame
Making Masisi famous and very much relevant.Rise Masisi,rise and make our nation great!
What are u saying ..are u even a motswana ..mxm u are here advocating for increased tariffs and corruption
Thats very criminal of u
U can't feel the pain we are feeling now
@@josephuaheruapo7485Most of this guys are cowards not patriots
Thank you Trevor for this insightful conversation with the former President,
Looking forward to this one. I respect this man.
An excellent conversation as usual. l enjoyed all questions asked by Trevor and responses given by former President Khama. All the best to Botswana and its lovely people. Hoping for quick and peaceful resolution of all the issues raised in this conversation
I am a South African man, and Botswana is just fine, this Ian Khama needs to come back here and answer for the crimes he is accused of.
Exactly. He must stop hallucinations
Our courts have recently declared that he is not a fugitive. He has proven to be correct, maybe the problem for some people is the skin colour.
Very true brother
Is it not rather telling…. addressing a sitting Head of State as, this man, a disease, Masisi… One wonders how much homework Trevor did before this conversation…… For example, The Former H.E, meddled with the Judiciary, interesting that he mentioned having people in the judiciary telling the outcome of judgements in advance….
More homework is required Mr Ncube.
Ian is a victim of his superiority complex. This is a man who didn't want to be interviewed by private media in Botswana when he was president because he was too good for them, so he thought. He even went to the extent of banning government advertising in private media. So, talk about democratic credentials and sickining hypocrisy. It,s hilarious that he can sit in a foreign country and spout, endlessly, how Masisi has suddenly turned into a " disease" after working with him for so many years.
This fall out,between the two, initial worried some people, but it's largely ignored now. If Ian left the country because he is afraid of being poisoned , does he think he is safe in South Africa? As usual, Ian thinks he is too superior to be tried in Botswana in a court of law for his guns. And what does he need so many guns for anyway?
Listen to him talk about how he is going to lead opposition parties in Botswana for 2024 elections. This is self appointment, and thinks everyone is a child who should do as he says. He is out of touch with what is happening in Botswana opposition politics. If you peel off the layers, you see a man whose ego is deeply wounded and is trying to use opposition politicians to fight what is essentially a ruling party turf war. You can't run a political campaign on Masisi as the only issue and think you can win a general election.
He keeps on saying we Batswana this, Batswana that. How many Batswana are you speaking for? If we go by the last general election, he is speaking for a minority. His political party has got only three seats in parliament in his tribal area. He is delusional when he says he is going to lead opposition parties in next year's general election. He doesn't hold much clout in Botswana politics anymore ,the last general election has shown. He can make all the noise he wants in a foreign country but it's not going to affect the outcome of the next general election. He should not try and claim credit if Masisi loses. The law wants him to come and stand trial for his guns. The country has also recently learnt that a company run by his brothers has supplied Botswana defence force with defective army equipment and broken down vehicles, from the exclusive tenders they enjoyed for so many years to supply BDF with weapons. Masisi has stopped that corruption.
Ian talks about Debeers company as if it's a holy cow that should not be negotiated with. Masisi is the president and should be allowed to negotiate the way he sees fit. He is " human , if he makes a mistake", isn't he?
Ian is a messiah with clay feet and he is not going to walk on water as he would like some people to believe.
im sure Trevor gave a good interview, but i cant listen to this hypocrite Ian anylonger!( stopped at10mins), to continue listening would be to give his words life.., plus its a total waste of my hard earned leisure time!
Masisi is a bad leader period...he uses the DIS for political persecutions...accept it...crisis after crisis...there's no medications in hospitals...your problem is that you're brainwashed.
Some Luke warm questioning. The man is a xenophobe of note ask any expat in BW. Interesting how his sympathisers are almost exclusively from his tribe or are far removed from his reign.
Same day Masisi took over you could almost taste the relief in the air.
No wonder Mogae thinks he’s unhinged
In his defence everything seems like a vendetta because for the first time in his life his entitlement was challenged.
They have no idea how cruel this guy is…
He is/was a Neocol
@@AugustineChad,None whatsoever.They don't know him like we do.We the citizens can tell a much better story.
I respect this man wish him more years of living
Great convo, much respect your excellency Mr IK. Thank you for the interview. Wish him the best and Botswana at large.
Thank you Trevor for such an informative and insightful conversation. Going beyond the borders
Interesting personality. Eager to learn more about him in his own words.
I respect President Ian Khama and the way he continues to speak frankly about democracy not only in his country but also in the neighbouring countries. He is a rare breed of African leaders. Most African leaders are willing to sacrifice the truth for their convenience.
Respect is earned your integrity if brought into check normally gets blown out the water pres ik has allways maintained a very high standard of both admirable an icon a perso young leaders can aspire and look up to.
you guys know nothing. we are at such peeace with this man in exile
sad part during his time there was no freedom,u say anythn u wud meet ur ancestors..Yet he cud publicly call out R Mugabe..we r so happy n free ever since he decided he is too fragile to face the consequences of his administration
Hey trover the problem here is he wanted my President masisi to elect his brother as a vice President. That's where the problem came.just trace where its started you will prove me wrong
You taught him well sir. You did it first
Wish The Two Great Leaders of Botswana find each other as we love you all. Every Southern African Leader has a role to play in building Southern Africa irrespective of their differences.
Respect Respect HE President Ian Khama! Rescue Botswana we Zimbabweans survival depends on clear thinking Africans like you . The truth the righteous shall prevail!
As much as I liked the guy I think it's not a good idea for him to lead Botswana again. The guy is bitter. Ian please stay away from politics.
Unseat the disease
😂😂😂😂😂
He did not say he wants to lead BW again listen to him.
@@candyhender291 he is a politician, you think he will win an election and on the same day hand over power to someone else, really?? Smell the coffee, the guy wants power back and his language says it all. He is bitter and wants a revenge.
Ask him how many interviews did he have with local media during his time = zero.
Very rich content ,I wish you would extend time limit to 2hours and broadcast twice a week . Now I have to wait for another week , but thanks Travour .
Thank you Watson for the amazing support and suggestions.
Thoroughly enjoyed this quality conversation! Well played
I wish him well. His main problem is opposition unity. That is a huge problem.
Really enjoyed this conversation! Great questioning as usual and thought provoking responses.
Hi Trevor, I thoroughly enjoy your channel and love the work you do. I feel you did a lot of listening though in this interview and didn't probe Ian Khama enough. I therefore felt it wasn't as balanced. This does not take away that fact that you got him to speak of his side of the story which we the audience appreciate.
I love you so very much always praying for you...
What goes around comes around i remember SKI chased Kgosi kgolo ya Bakgatla Kgafela frm th country whn he was in charge now its his time to feel da heat, no one is above th law
President Khama thank you and you stood with us when Robert Mugabe was not doing well for the people of Zim. You supported Tsvangirai thank Sir
Where are his children and where is his Wife / Wives . Understand the man
@@tichawonamakova1656 What happened to them. You seem to have a story to tell. Spit it out.
Khama and his family think Botswana belongs to them. He had his time and he still wanted to be the power beyond the throne. Masisi knew that for him to grow he had to remove this over bearing man. Khama literally just complained for an hour and poor Trevor had to listen to that and probably had to give the old man a hug after. Pitiful really.
This leader knows why bots was so succesfull this man stood firm he stood up for the people his people love him listen to this man he is no ones fool a donkey cannot do the work of a mule its how things work
true his people not Batswana 🤞
People like commenting on things they don't know
You don't know anything
This is very one sided and therefore doesn't allow for one to fully appreciate and make a well rounded conclusion. A case of old friends turned foes for reasons best known to them.
Their differences and feud that has turned public is not doing our beloved Botswana any good.
Very sad
Trevor Ncube MUST give Masisi the right of reply or right of correction for viewers to make up their minds.
Haha doubt you can get a whole state president on this show. Happy to be proved wrong though and hopefully TN can pull it off
Some interesting developments in Botswana....thank you for this insightful episode Trevor
you are welcome Tawanda.
Unfortunately you are only getting one side of the story. I wish the interviewer would invite other guests who can shed light on other sides so you can get a better view.
Trevor was paid to ask him such shallow questions. Come to Botswana and get it from us Batswana. This man and his family were corrupt and entitled to the resources of Botswana and Batswana. President Masisi saved us by getting rid of them. He talks about corruption when his middle name is corruption. He must stay in exile. We suffered under him for years. We feared his DIS, and freedom of speech was non-existent during his term. He must sit down and enjoy his money.
This is the first time l have been accused of having been paid to have a conversation since we started this show. Laughable
Don't say us, but you! Who are you to speak for 2 million people plus? Every leader has his or her weaknesses including president Masisi. This does not mean it is an insult to speak about their strengths. Not everything is about money, were you paid to write this comment in favour of HE Masisi. Well done Trevor.
@@candyhender291 thank you for your support
Honestly mukoma Trevor the guy talks nonsense about Putin and criticises Masisi renegotiating unfair agreement with DeBeers and you don't probe further. Don't you know reasons for war in Ukraine and plundering of resources by the minority and more often than not unjustifiable and destructive sanctions for economies which challenges status quo.
@@Keith0909Maya
Looking forward to watching this episode
True legend and respect to H.E Ian Khama
Absolutely
Thank you Your Excellence. Trevor, that was a fantastic and thought provoking interview. Your interviews are very powerful
Trevor go and research more about the former please do that
He knows its all about money babe
BROWN envelope
If he is that pure why run away?like really ijaaaaaaakg
Thank you very much everybody, mark my words . Today we are drinking oil, mind you tomorrow we shall be drinking mud . At least I have told you people my parable
What a gentleman!!
Your conversation Mr Ncube is making people to join dots and complete certain items on puzzles that were difficult to solve.
You can tell he is troubled and emotionally in pain...God bless him..
Very humble Mr Ian Khama.The only man who stood with Zimbabweans in fight against Zanu pf while tge rest of Africa was quiet
It takes a gentleman to admit his error in public for sure. I hope he is well he looks unwell its eating him daily.
He is very. He was come from the gym before the conversation
Something else is bothering him..its not closing President Masisi...Botswana is oooookkkay..we are just fine...
They was a time this man used to think that he was the best president in Africa. He started attacking other African presidents to the point his government was giving military training to a group of Zimbabweans so that they can go and remove with the help of western countries Mugabe . That was a very bad move Mr President.
Am realy hapi to see n hear da conversation SSKIK...I SALUTE N LOVE LOVE N RESPECT U SO MUCH....
Only the truth sets free our former President
Khama needs help 😂😂😂😂
What help?
nop
Very true. Very delusional
Yes indeed let us have both sides of the coin. Bring rhe other party to the story and let us hear what he says.This issue should be resolved once and for all and an amicable solution obtained betwwen the incumbent and his predecessor. Botswanais a peaceful country in a politically turbulent region. Let our neighbours be chmark ln us
Honestly mukoma Trevor the guy talks nonsense about Putin and criticises Masisi renegotiating unfair agreement with DeBeers and you don't probe further. Don't you know reasons for war in Ukraine and plundering of resources by the minority and more often than not unjustifiable and destructive sanctions for economies which challenges status quo.
If only Zimbabwe would be so lucky. This man is a humble intelligent true son of the soil. All the developing issues he mentioned in Botswana are the exact issues that have gripped Zimbabwe and are sinking it into the pitts. This man has had the courage and strength in character to speak out when it wasn’t popular. May God bless him and good luck.
stop commenting when you are informed. He brought AFRICOM at our doorsteps
he doesnt hav a clue about African politics,he hates Africans
Amazing stuff Trevor, thank you so much!
you are welcome Cyril.
We ar praying for Yr peace, may God bless you 🙏
Very tough conversation. Trevor meets a guest with a back-bone 😅. Handled very well 👌
It a shame as Africans we are not tolerant 😢
My advice to you guys make no mistake to attack general , he is covered with , a strong military cure
Please go and interview Batswana, Former President Festus Mogae and President Masisi. I think you have started with getting all the facts straight from neutral sources before interviewing former President Khama.
Both men knows why they are fighting. So one side of the story will not help us to fully get the truth.
Well pray for you God bless you amen
Siyabonga
I love this platform great stuff.
He is living in his own world. Botswana is more peaceful without this man
😂😂😂 Ao shems, stop crying for the seat, just be like Seretse, Masire, Mogae. Remember how you turned down Mogae's advises. Why do you want Sisboy to listen to you ??
Thanks Trevor, urichibaba
Very insightful interview and informative, helpful also hilarious at the same time. Speak like an Angel but deep inside.. I'm Motswana from Republic of Botswana, this interview makes me proud to be Motswana. 🇧🇼 🇧🇼 Botswana Approves💯💯💯💯💯
He sounds so bitter, just retire as normal. You have accomplished what you wanted, let him accomplish his.
"Self interest,greed,being obsessed by being in office..intolerance, .".this does NOT represent Dr Masisi..our President in Botswana. Ng..ng....NOT AT ALL.
Lack of IMPARTIALITY in any media interview...be it from Mainstream or Social, is the reason why people do not trust media anymore
The BIG question who is sponsoring you Trevor and your channel.... Actually your state of being is under examination... anyway the conversation is okay ... A room for investigative journalism
Hold on, wait a minute. I hear and understand he is soft spoken and all. Guns? What type of guns are we talking about here? I understand it’s his right, but why did he have guns to the extent that it got used against him? What was the amount of guns? This guy was loved and liked by many in the region,me included.
You must interview masisi to balance this
He is very divisive and thought will rule from the graves. listen to a series of his interviews they all contradicts one another because lies has short legs. he always say he doesn't talk to the President but when he want to lie he will say he spoke to him
General
When he became president, I was in Botswana. He put restrictions on the times alcohol can be sold. He was strong and strict and very patriotic. He was not corrupt
it was just a coincidence that soldiers became millionairs owning planes i guess
@Tuto Tutot how many soldiers? What were their ranks ? If they became millionaires in legal ways would that be an issue? Are you alleging illegality, and if so can you prove such?
@@thetad1242 i will go on and tell you their uneducated brothers were the main contractors for the military tenders when he headed the Botswana defence force.....i dont have to prove anything do the research....i am a pure born and bred Motswana and he is my chief as a Mongwato. so i know how spoilt he is, it started with our parents...he is a cry baby who is not used to not having power. he has had power since youth despite being failure at school so this is new to him....he has been betrayed by the person he instilled on us, Masisi was nothing to us but they threatened everyone in the party who didnt vote for him for the chairmanship.
You don't know him obviously. Ask batswana
i guess u were in Botswana jus passing by .u really don't know this man..funny how after his presidency he running to the same media that he had no time for& terrorised even detaining journos
One of the few great minds to ever lead Africa, blessed to have had him in Southern Africa.
Very cruel man, very xenophobic tendencies, he hated zimbabweans with passion, h cannot be good today , tomorrow and forever, he controlled the media with iron fist
This guy is no different to Mugabe. He got overthrown by his deputy. The only difference is he lives to tell the tale. Go cry elsewhere. Thanks Trevor.
Overthrown? You have no good recollection of facts. There was no overthrow, the vice president was picked by this man for succession.
mxm!
Not that l think Masisi is a good guy but here, I suspect a former head of state who was denied continued influence/meddling/power in the day to day running of a country and is bitter about it. Ian you did a lot of good in your time, step aside so that we don’t loose the memories of the good you did.
Thts the issue..all he is saying about ministers coming to him is his side of the story...we only hear these things from him
Eyaa Eyaa. Neyee Neyee. Hmmmm. Hiehie banna.
They must arrest this one. AFRICOM was him
Trevor the last time l checked yiy where part of ED advisers...what happened to that..
President Khama was not ruthless enough. All the red 🚩🚩🚩🚩 were there. He should have fired him when all the ministers came to him. I question his leadership skillls. Why would he betray the confidence of his ministers by putting them in front of Masisi? No smoke without fire.
I would have been interested in his take on Zimbabwe structuring it's gold industry borrowing from his DeBeers experience.
I like Trevor's easy going interview style but I felt he was disrepectful in the end for trying to chase views by asking him to face the camera and address Masisi and to try to push matters when his guest had declined the first time. Not good.
Ian Khama has served a full term and should stop interfering with the current leadership who represented him well inernationally during his 10 year term in office CBH and rest..
Justcome
Trevor you seem to sympathies with the former president the questions you are asking are too friendly and does not do justice to expose the power hungry former president who wants to use politics to protect himself rather than the courts. He knows that he is guilty
What is he guilty of???
I respect all my guests.
@@Keith0909Maya Sympathise, not respect. He didn't accuse you of disrespecting anyone.
Samuel you are not running the show we all know whats happening
Murakashi
thank u for this informative
As a Zimbabwean the only condemnation I have for Masisi, is why he’s building alliances with the scrupulous Zim president, unlike Ian who openly called out Mugabe hypocrisy. Other than that, Ian should chill
It's only fair to give president Masisi the platform to respond to such allegations. President Masisi is doing well. Former president is not telling the truth and he knows it. We are fine with Masisi...