This boils my blood. A similiar thing happened in the US where some in Congress didn´t want to evactuate Afghans who had collaborated with them, leaving them to the Taliban. Absolute rotting behavior.
The British betrayed certain Russians at the end of WW2 and sent them back to Stalin and Americans betrayed Allie’s many times since WW2. Only a fool trusts allies. Allies are relationships of convenience and in history alliances switched often, sometimes in the blink of an eye.
@@schokobar4133 After the secession of hostilities, the Western Allies agreed to repatriate German collaborators to their respective nation-states, most notably Soviet-Russian collaborators who had enlisted into the 'Russian Liberation Army', which had been a significant component of the Heer. However, the 'Russian Liberation Army' General Staff had previously been given guarantees by the Western Allies for amnesty and political asylum, which was revoked.
This is just a disgrace. They were abandoned and even when they get out the British government still refused to help. Who would now fight alongside the British Army in another conflict.
I’m not sure BUT if the British soldiers and officers who have spoken out are to be believed then these Afghans where paid by the British to fight alongside British Soldiers ( partly because the mainstream Afghan Army couldn’t be trusted). I can only assume that recruiting these Afghan soldiers reduced the number of British Soldiers killed or wounded. Did they fight for the UK or for their own country is a difficult political question, perhaps we first need to ask did the US and UK invade Afghanistan to protect western interests or to give ordinary Afghans a better future? The whole thing was a mess but now refusing to save these men from torture and dead is just adding to the fiasco.
When has the UK or US done anything to help a country of brown people? They went to save women and girls from the Taliban…why not go and save the women and girls being killed in Gaza?
@@TheWebstaff lol brits surely didnt fight for a bright afghan future so other afghans who fought alongside them were simply traitors. 😂 good for you guys for leaving them
This is where countries who are asked to support Western countries locally in military and other ways eg. translators, logistcs will have to think twice
why afghans are doing better---i mean kinda slow but better. look at all the youtube vid about american and tourists visiting. one day it will come to be batter. i remember getting to Kandahar and seeing the airport pictures of women dressed in a kind of normal outfit-----i wont say normal but you know what i mean. i mean alot of tourists used to visit and now you have tourists . i love it i do want to visit again as a civilian
@@ericmac8110 the "worst" meaning that they would be considered as traitors in Afghanistan and would probably (if not certainly) get killed because they betrayed their country when they fought alongside with the invaders .
@@randomaccount_9537 i know this because i was there in 2004. and all the translaters when i was there were suposed to get US citizenship and there families ---i mean biden left afghanistan imediatly and didnt care. that goes to show you how much he cares of the arab world. i miss my old translators. i miss fat man (old guyt that used to shoot at the russians) when he was a child. he deserves the highest priority of being in the US ---dude was a bad ass in flif flops ! lol
My maternal grandfather who was a Chinese Malayan, was one of the few non-whites who worked with the British Colonial Service in Kuala Lumpur, Malaya prior to the Second World War. As a Chinese, and as a result of the Second Sino-Japanese War in the 1930s, it was well expected that he and other Chinese Malayans who worked with the British would be targetted by the Japanese. However, when the Japanese did invade and conquer Malaya, there were no plans to evacuate or even provide evacuation assistance to my grandfather and others like him who had served the British faithfully. Only white British were evacuated and non-white British were all left to fend for themselves. Some survived in hiding, like my grandfather, others were caught, tortured and killed by the Japanese. History repeats itself with the fall of Kabul, where Afghan dogs were given priority by the British government for evacuation over Afghan humans! The Afghans who worked and supported the British in Afghanistan made the same mistake as the Malayans did during the Second World War. They were dumb enough to trust the British!
this is why western countries should stop meddling with other countries political and military affair if they are not prepared to support them until the end
I don't understand why we let thousands of illegal immigrants settle in this country but people who fought for this country are not allowed to stay. They've got it backwards. Be generous to those who love us, and kick out those who hate us.
The British Establishment does what it always does. Fucks over anyone it doesn't see as worthy. If you are living in in the United Kingdom and aren't wealthy, you could be next......
Britishes should let these people who paid with their blood inorder to protect their british comrades in war to come and live in london..they are more worthy to live in Europe than those who got into Europe illegally and causing chaos in European societies.
The government is happy to rehome the Afghan women’s football team, because it woke and looks good. But can’t help the Afghans that put their lives on the line to fight with our SF. Makes me sick. I’m tired of the immoral Tory government.
It's amazing that BJ & his mistress helped Pen Farthing & his Afghan staff, plus stray dogs get out of Afghanistan, but never bothered to help these loyal front line Afghans......
My heart aches for these loyal and brave people, it’s crying shame how the US, the UK, and Canadian governments just abandoned them for the worst of fates. What a betrayal, hypocrisy, and cruelty!
What a crock. If they were 'loyal' and 'brave' they would have fought for their country. After all the blood and money we spent, they simply legged it.
Good you reported this. Many countries have failed those that risked their families lives to help Many have been hunted and murdered while others are in hiding unable to work or leave families unintended.
I know here in Canada we accepted 40,000 of them. Wish we helped more. Talent Lift is one website run by a nonprofit organization. They offer help to get jobs and get on a plane. A few took advantage of it from multiple countries. Including those in Afghanistan. I help them out for free with English on Facebook. Always on the lookout for more volunteers to help.
Despicable, shameful, disgusting betrayal. And to think illegal immigrants are here, being spoiled rotten, while these brave men are left behind... My heart aches...
They arent British Citizens we are under no obligation to take them. When they signed up British citizenship was not part of the deal. This country isn't a charity.
Let’s say they change their mind. How the hell are they gonna get them out now? They know they stalled long enough to make it look like retrieving them is no longer feasible.
Imagine if england was invaded by german and then some english helped or fight alongside the german army. I dont blame english calling them traitors or collaborators
MOD doing it's own thing as usual. if it's not failing to provide kit or prosecuting our own soldiers it's ignoring them. Sometimes i wonder which side the MOD is on.
Disgusting. There was talk in the UK of creating an Afghan equivalent of the Gurkas from them. Considering the recruitment issues that would have been two birds with one stone but for some reason this was not followed up.
you ignored that they all get trained together with taliban but bbc showed you investment opportunities in afghanistan where you can avail drugs and sell cheap chinese stuff
The Afghan people should have fought harder instead of giving up so easily. Now they leave small units fighting for their freedom who won't succeed because of their lack of effort.
Mind Begs the Question: - If a Govt stage WMD Hoax - Govt can't stage Terrorist Attack - To manufacture justification,consent - For Genocide,Occupation?
The same thing will happen to Ukraine and it gradually happening, America don’t have friends but interest, so any country,person or persons that sacrificed their/itself to save America interest instead of theirs should bear in mind that they will leave you once they feel you’re no longer useful and find another useful idiots.
The difference I think is the Ukrainians are fighting for themselves. They don't want to leave they are fighting for their country first and foremost. So I think it's less of an issue.
I dont understand. Someones lying are these afghans fighting for afghan or are the -afghans- british fighting for the UK. In one senario we left good british soldiers behind. In the other we left allies behind to fight for there own land after pouring billions into that state. Yeah the withdrawal was badly done but still how much and how long can you do that before your just a coloniser.
U. S. and Allies have lost and failed in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and Middle East after 20 years of wars fighting They haven't achieved anything all their policies has been failed
So there are now many highly trained soldiers , conversant with strategies and tactics, disillusioned with the way they were treated who will ultimately end up fighting with, or for someone else. Why couldn't we have formed an affiliate unit from these men? It worked well with the Ghurkas. What a waste especially when these men were proven quantities with people who vouched for them. I'm not trying to defend the minister's comments however he might not be aware of the true background. An enquiry might help, politicians seem to conduct them the alarming frequency even when they are of little benefit to the general public.
You'd think the way thing are going you'd have these boys and there families at home continuing to train and fight already put time and effort in and they are loyal war fighters we gonna need every platoon we can get
Countries (govt rep, not the people) that voted against cease-fire: Austria, Czech Republic, Guatemala, Israel, Liberia, Micronesia, Nauru, Papua New Guinea, Paraguay, United States. Countries that abstained: Argentina, Bulgaria, Cabo Verde, Cameroon, Equatorial Guinea, Georgia, Germany, Hungary, Italy, Lithuania, Malawi, Marshall Islands, Netherlands, Palau, Panama, Romania, Slovakia, South Sudan, Togo, Tonga, Ukraine, United Kingdom, Uruguay. *Free Palestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸*
51 Western Countries went to Afghanistan for 21 years to fight terrorists Taliban 😂😂😂who were trained in Pakistan 🇵🇰 👹UK,US Allie’s in fifty thousands madrasas paid $$$ to Pakistani government and ISI for training terrorists. Finally Taliban terrorists were installed by them in Afghanistan. The Terrorist Taliban destroyed the infrastructure of Afghanistan. Wherever US/UK go bring destruction.
This boils my blood. A similiar thing happened in the US where some in Congress didn´t want to evactuate Afghans who had collaborated with them, leaving them to the Taliban. Absolute rotting behavior.
funny stuff they only switched sides out of fear they are all idiots who deserve no protection. i hope the taliban finds them all
They doing the same thing with Ukraine now. Talk one way act another.
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The British betrayed certain Russians at the end of WW2 and sent them back to Stalin and Americans betrayed Allie’s many times since WW2. Only a fool trusts allies. Allies are relationships of convenience and in history alliances switched often, sometimes in the blink of an eye.
Can u explain this with sending the russians back to stalin?
Sadly I think you’re absolutely correct
Same thing occurred with Czechoslovakia in 1938 and Poland 1939 where the promises of support never came.
@@schokobar4133 After the secession of hostilities, the Western Allies agreed to repatriate German collaborators to their respective nation-states, most notably Soviet-Russian collaborators who had enlisted into the 'Russian Liberation Army', which had been a significant component of the Heer.
However, the 'Russian Liberation Army' General Staff had previously been given guarantees by the Western Allies for amnesty and political asylum, which was revoked.
This is just a disgrace. They were abandoned and even when they get out the British government still refused to help. Who would now fight alongside the British Army in another conflict.
I do feel for them.
But remind me who or what were these people fighting for?
For Britain and a passport or for a Afghan future?
I’m not sure BUT if the British soldiers and officers who have spoken out are to be believed then these Afghans where paid by the British to fight alongside British Soldiers ( partly because the mainstream Afghan Army couldn’t be trusted). I can only assume that recruiting these Afghan soldiers reduced the number of British Soldiers killed or wounded. Did they fight for the UK or for their own country is a difficult political question, perhaps we first need to ask did the US and UK invade Afghanistan to protect western interests or to give ordinary Afghans a better future? The whole thing was a mess but now refusing to save these men from torture and dead is just adding to the fiasco.
When has the UK or US done anything to help a country of brown people? They went to save women and girls from the Taliban…why not go and save the women and girls being killed in Gaza?
@@TheWebstaff lol brits surely didnt fight for a bright afghan future so other afghans who fought alongside them were simply traitors. 😂 good for you guys for leaving them
This is where countries who are asked to support Western countries locally in military and other ways eg. translators, logistcs will have to think twice
It's shameful how we leave them alone facing the worst!
why afghans are doing better---i mean kinda slow but better. look at all the youtube vid about american and tourists visiting. one day it will come to be batter. i remember getting to Kandahar and seeing the airport pictures of women dressed in a kind of normal outfit-----i wont say normal but you know what i mean. i mean alot of tourists used to visit and now you have tourists . i love it i do want to visit again as a civilian
@@ericmac8110 the "worst" meaning that they would be considered as traitors in Afghanistan and would probably (if not certainly) get killed because they betrayed their country when they fought alongside with the invaders .
@@ericmac8110 if you believe that you spread Taliban propaganda.
If their skills & techniques leaked, not a good thing for the UK
@@randomaccount_9537 i know this because i was there in 2004. and all the translaters when i was there were suposed to get US citizenship and there families ---i mean biden left afghanistan imediatly and didnt care. that goes to show you how much he cares of the arab world. i miss my old translators. i miss fat man (old guyt that used to shoot at the russians) when he was a child. he deserves the highest priority of being in the US ---dude was a bad ass in flif flops ! lol
There's thousands of illegal immigrants in UK and these very special people from Afghanistan are denied settling in UK??! What the hell??
I am still waiting for a response from my MP. A terrible betrayal if nothing is done.
lol you are nothing get a grip
Your mp doesn’t care
I have written them a stiff letter. They may not care... but they do take notice, if enough people do.
Why is it a terrible betrayal? They folded like a warm Mars bar when NATO left.
A lesson for the whole world not to put too much trust in the west.
West is synonyms with betrayal
Or maybe if you're fighting for your own country with the help of someone else, have a plan for what happens at the end?
I don't think it's an exclusive West thing 🧐😉
@@TheWebstaff Theres a military code, no one gets left behind. You have to be open minded to understand that.
Russian troll by any chance?
I hope the British don’t ever hope for local help in their next military adventure.
My maternal grandfather who was a Chinese Malayan, was one of the few non-whites who worked with the British Colonial Service in Kuala Lumpur, Malaya prior to the Second World War. As a Chinese, and as a result of the Second Sino-Japanese War in the 1930s, it was well expected that he and other Chinese Malayans who worked with the British would be targetted by the Japanese. However, when the Japanese did invade and conquer Malaya, there were no plans to evacuate or even provide evacuation assistance to my grandfather and others like him who had served the British faithfully. Only white British were evacuated and non-white British were all left to fend for themselves. Some survived in hiding, like my grandfather, others were caught, tortured and killed by the Japanese. History repeats itself with the fall of Kabul, where Afghan dogs were given priority by the British government for evacuation over Afghan humans! The Afghans who worked and supported the British in Afghanistan made the same mistake as the Malayans did during the Second World War. They were dumb enough to trust the British!
shameful act of politicians
Wtf?!? This is disgraceful. How can we go in and abandon them and not support those who fought?!?
They fought? You mean they ran away.
@@Jennyeq Just like the West then. Last I checked Taliban still control the country.
@@Jennyeq we brits have a history of running away from fights aswell
@@Luciry123lol ok.
@@Luciry123 Could you give me some examples of that?
this is why western countries should stop meddling with other countries political and military affair if they are not prepared to support them until the end
There was no end. Just a road to colonial status.
And nobody wanted that.
This is where the cards fell.
So when is the end for you hmm? 30 years from now? 40? 50?
I don't understand why we let thousands of illegal immigrants settle in this country but people who fought for this country are not allowed to stay. They've got it backwards. Be generous to those who love us, and kick out those who hate us.
Should throw this minister into Afghan and leave him there….. such attitude would only destroy the credibility of the UK and it’s people completely
What's new? Western nations just coming and going when they please leaving nothing but misery in their path.
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The British Establishment does what it always does. Fucks over anyone it doesn't see as worthy. If you are living in in the United Kingdom and aren't wealthy, you could be next......
Britishes should let these people who paid with their blood inorder to protect their british comrades in war to come and live in london..they are more worthy to live in Europe than those who got into Europe illegally and causing chaos in European societies.
British always not afraid to show their true colors
Same with afghans?
Did they do this for Afghanistan or some other reason?..
Let this be a lesson to all Washington and London “allies” in their proxy wars. You will be betrayed.
Let this be a lesson for anyone asking for help to defend their own country.
It's your country.
Understand.
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
The only time Politicians think of their friends is when they are starting a war with the enemy.
Disgraceful and dishonourable behaviour as an armed force and typical British colonial mentality. I think Britons can do better.
The government is happy to rehome the Afghan women’s football team, because it woke and looks good.
But can’t help the Afghans that put their lives on the line to fight with our SF.
Makes me sick.
I’m tired of the immoral Tory government.
We find someone disgusting when they abandon their dog on the side of the road.
This is unnamed.
Only those who have never done a tour of ‘duty’ can be excused for not knowing that soldiers are always being used.
And you wonder why they hate our guts here in the West?
It's amazing that BJ & his mistress helped Pen Farthing & his Afghan staff, plus stray dogs get out of Afghanistan, but never bothered to help these loyal front line Afghans......
My heart aches for these loyal and brave people, it’s crying shame how the US, the UK, and Canadian governments just abandoned them for the worst of fates. What a betrayal, hypocrisy, and cruelty!
Die können nicht anders,aus nutzen bis gehst nicht,und
dann schmeißen wie heiße Kartoffeln,das sind die beste Freunde,die kommen nur helfen????????
What a crock. If they were 'loyal' and 'brave' they would have fought for their country. After all the blood and money we spent, they simply legged it.
Outrageous. How many people are we talking about? Not tens of thousands, so they can easily be granted permits over here.
For all the money, training and tech they flaunt. The US still lost that war.
Good you reported this.
Many countries have failed those that risked their families lives to help
Many have been hunted and murdered while others are in hiding unable to work or leave families unintended.
I'd have a lot more sympathy if these 'soldiers' had actually fought harder for their country, rather than rolling over in short order.
They did this in Canada and the USA too. It's almost like this was orchsetrated
shameful behaviour
The US should go get these people
Afghanistan has been forgotten about everyone's moved on nobody cares about it anymore
I know here in Canada we accepted 40,000 of them. Wish we helped more. Talent Lift is one website run by a nonprofit organization. They offer help to get jobs and get on a plane. A few took advantage of it from multiple countries. Including those in Afghanistan. I help them out for free with English on Facebook. Always on the lookout for more volunteers to help.
Despicable, shameful, disgusting betrayal. And to think illegal immigrants are here, being spoiled rotten, while these brave men are left behind... My heart aches...
um yea, thats what colonial powers do
They are the one wjo betrayed their country
They arent British Citizens we are under no obligation to take them. When they signed up British citizenship was not part of the deal. This country isn't a charity.
Betrayers gets betrayed
Let’s say they change their mind. How the hell are they gonna get them out now?
They know they stalled long enough to make it look like retrieving them is no longer feasible.
Most left, we are hearing about this as they are outside Afghanistan but host countries are pressing to send them to Afghanistan.
There are not practical problems getting those in Pakistan to the UK or those in many other countries in the Region. The problem is political
Thank u bbc for trying to do ur best❤️ bout it’s shame to British government
They are the betrayers. as simple as that
Ingrateful and coldblooded.
I hope uk people understand it was never about stopping terrorists but about resources below the ground, this is an example how they treat foreigners
afghans betrayed?
the irony is strong...
They helped British forces but denied. But anyone crossing the channel get to stay in hotels and given food.
Imagine if england was invaded by german and then some english helped or fight alongside the german army. I dont blame english calling them traitors or collaborators
Without trustworthiness the stability of all affairs will corrode and fail.
What were they expecting? When things go south, the foreign troops leave you to die. See what's happening in Ukraine.
I smell another Russian bot his mums basement here . 😂
@@samcrick2349 Alright troll 😅
MOD doing it's own thing as usual. if it's not failing to provide kit or prosecuting our own soldiers it's ignoring them. Sometimes i wonder which side the MOD is on.
I hope they are on the UK's side.
Disgusting. There was talk in the UK of creating an Afghan equivalent of the Gurkas from them. Considering the recruitment issues that would have been two birds with one stone but for some reason this was not followed up.
you ignored that they all get trained together with taliban but bbc showed you investment opportunities in afghanistan where you can avail drugs and sell cheap chinese stuff
Bring them into the British Army.
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US and its interpreters were treated the same.
The Afghan people should have fought harder instead of giving up so easily. Now they leave small units fighting for their freedom who won't succeed because of their lack of effort.
Nothing new, right? This is not the first time by the UK govt. Bureaucratic BS.
Life is a question ?
Never trust the west ain’t you lot learned this yet 😂
Mind Begs the Question:
- If a Govt stage WMD Hoax
- Govt can't stage Terrorist Attack
- To manufacture justification,consent
- For Genocide,Occupation?
is anyone surprised? in a Tory governments being a racist seems to be a prerequisite to be Home Secretary
Trusting USA and UK at your own death row 😅😅..
The Britsh leaving people behind.... No...
Reading a bit of British colonialists history before helping would have served the triples well.
I think the one percenter's and politicians with no previous military experience should be made to fight these wars
They choose to support and flight for an invading force that occupied their country.
They will pay the price for that choice.
The same thing will happen to Ukraine and it gradually happening, America don’t have friends but interest, so any country,person or persons that sacrificed their/itself to save America interest instead of theirs should bear in mind that they will leave you once they feel you’re no longer useful and find another useful idiots.
The difference I think is the Ukrainians are fighting for themselves.
They don't want to leave they are fighting for their country first and foremost.
So I think it's less of an issue.
Guy Ritchie's The Covenant (2023) film exists for good reason.
They preach wine and serve water. Careful wen u trust
Excellento
I dont understand.
Someones lying are these afghans fighting for afghan or are the -afghans- british fighting for the UK.
In one senario we left good british soldiers behind.
In the other we left allies behind to fight for there own land after pouring billions into that state.
Yeah the withdrawal was badly done but still how much and how long can you do that before your just a coloniser.
Bring those soldiers to the UK now.
They betrayed their own country and fought alongside the invaders
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How are you dear
You mean the taliban
@@roguetrader33 Taliban defended their country
@@julia2k8shut up taliban, 80 percent Afghanistan hates taliban that's why there are so many terrorist attacks there
Just turn up and get a free house like the rest of the raw sewage that come
OK hillbilly, immigrants "take yer jerb"?
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@Simply_Andy Maybe you live in another world
No
Used.
How very typically British.
U. S. and Allies have lost and failed in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and Middle East after 20 years of wars fighting
They haven't achieved anything all their policies has been failed
thats Douglas Murray voice a reporter at 2:57
Poor ukraine if this happen to them in near future
Sad indeed
this is what happens to traitors who betrayed their own people
Your people are cowards. Look at what’s happening in Gaza, and you all are so scared to do anything imao.
So there are now many highly trained soldiers , conversant with strategies and tactics, disillusioned with the way they were treated who will ultimately end up fighting with, or for someone else. Why couldn't we have formed an affiliate unit from these men? It worked well with the Ghurkas. What a waste especially when these men were proven quantities with people who vouched for them. I'm not trying to defend the minister's comments however he might not be aware of the true background. An enquiry might help, politicians seem to conduct them the alarming frequency even when they are of little benefit to the general public.
Just the usual british stuff, use other people and discard them, nothing new here
Now russia is going to have more allies. Good job west
Maybe ukraine can offer them asylum, and shared their battle training and experience with ukrainian military, if no one will help them, maybe
You'd think the way thing are going you'd have these boys and there families at home continuing to train and fight already put time and effort in and they are loyal war fighters we gonna need every platoon we can get
Disgraceful. Should never of pulled out of Afghanistan,
I blame Biden.
They are gonna leave Ukrainians too
Thats sad
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This is how extremism is created...
Countries (govt rep, not the people) that voted against cease-fire: Austria, Czech Republic, Guatemala, Israel, Liberia, Micronesia, Nauru, Papua New Guinea, Paraguay, United States.
Countries that abstained: Argentina, Bulgaria, Cabo Verde, Cameroon, Equatorial Guinea, Georgia, Germany, Hungary, Italy, Lithuania, Malawi, Marshall Islands, Netherlands, Palau, Panama, Romania, Slovakia, South Sudan, Togo, Tonga, Ukraine, United Kingdom, Uruguay.
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Russians must recruit them
Hey guess what. Just catch a dingy. Get free housing etc.
The british have no honor. What did they expect
51 Western Countries went to Afghanistan for 21 years to fight terrorists Taliban 😂😂😂who were trained in Pakistan 🇵🇰 👹UK,US Allie’s in fifty thousands madrasas paid $$$ to Pakistani government and ISI for training terrorists. Finally Taliban terrorists were installed by them in Afghanistan. The Terrorist Taliban destroyed the infrastructure of Afghanistan. Wherever US/UK go bring destruction.