I am 1 hour into this talk and it is one of your best guests ever. SO engagingly fascinating. Absolutely such a great conversation with one of astrology's finest. Thank you Chris and Mr. Little.
Chris is such a master of listening and asking just a right questions that enable his guests to share their knowledge with us. I left this episode feeling like I was lucky to be given a gift. ❤
When I was going through hell during my Saturn return. I was reading Liz Greene's book. Saturn- A new look at an old devil. Ironically, the girl who was breaking my heart at the time loaned it to me. And that book helped me Tremendously! I came out the other side with much more wisdom. And a better understanding of what Saturn truly means.
speaking to symbolism, I was in the process one late winter morning, of realizing I was going to have to end a friendship. It pained me, as we had been friends for many years. But this friend was going places I could not follow, and I couldn't have that energy in my life. So I was sitting at my table, writing and crying, and looked out the window. A hawk was sitting on my deck. Staring at me. He stayed for about 20 minutes. (this is rare, as I am in a city, and if he comes by, its a fly by). He flew away, only to return again in a few minutes. Landing in a bush, there he sat for 2 hours. I had the sense that he was keeping me company on a sad and hard day, and took it also as a sign that I was right to end this friendship. I have not seen him since that day, but the presence has remained with me all these months later.
Crazy coincidence. I started getting serius about understanding astrology about in the later part of 2021. Uranus was crossing my ascendant just about that time. Wild.
Same here! I’m just watching this podcast 4 weeks later. I just looked up when I went deeper into my Astro life and it was April 2009. Looked up my transits then and BAM- t Uranus ON my Asc 😮
I'm very grateful for the hard work you're sharing with me. Also, I'm proud of the historical documentation you're providing to future generations. Thank you, Chris & Kirk, and thank you to the whole team of people using their skill & experience to bring this work to the public.
I would like to express my condolences to the family & friends of Geoffrey Cornelius. I'm deeply moved by listening to this conversation, and I can't imagine the great space he must've held in the lives of those closest to him. It's a beautiful honor to listen as Kirk & Chris discuss Geoffrey's impact on their lives and in the community of astrology. May you rest peacefully, sir 🤍🕊
i love the ancient meaning of astrology being an energetic presentation of omens and possibilities for our choice and improvement. The best line--"Those who are closest to God (heaven) give the best readings."
I had Uranus cross my AC when I was thrust back into spiritual work and astrology. Had been studying it for almost a decade at the time, and had applied for a zillion jobs that I was super qualified to do- but one of the only interviews I got was to be an assistant for an energy healer who was good friends with Susan Miller, lol. The rest is history 😅
Thank you Chris. Your interviews are never too long. We love how you delve deeply into Geoffrey’s life with Mr Little. We learn more about astrology & eclipses 🎉
Great discussion guys, really getting to the heart of Geoffrey’s thinking and raising the debates around the apparent objectivity of astrology. I’d just like to add that Geoffrey was more influenced than you had time to mention by the neoplatonic astrology of Ficino which came via Plotinus. The philosophical understanding of the planets as divine signs not physical causes really underpinned his work and gave it intellectual credibility, and so much hinged on Ficino’s platonic understanding of symbol as intermediary between the divine and the world (and the symbolic imagination as Daimon). Also the fact that he could apply a theological model (the four senses of interpretation) to astrology lifted it into the realm of the sacred, I think that was a massive hermeneutical move on his part and achieved what Ficino was seeking to do in a less hospitable culture, unite pagan theurgy and mystical religion. Geoffrey was incredible and I feel so honoured to have worked with him in our academic programmes for over 20 years.
Thank you for sharing that! I've always meant to do an episode on Ficino, and would be an honor to do that episode with you sometime to talk about his life and work if you would be interested.
@@TheAstrologyPodcast thanks so much Chris, I’m a bit out of the loop at present trying to manage severe tinnitus, hyperacusis and EMF sensitivity which means online stuff is very challenging as is concentrating. But as soon as I feel up to it I’d love to. I did do this one a few years ago ruclips.net/video/l682UhzuYL4/видео.htmlsi=umABuSRxnVIWEYxY and there are quite a few other interviews at mythcosmologysacred RUclips channel on related topics including some things with Geoffrey. I’m determined to work with Maggie and others to keep his work alive and get more published.
@@angelavoss5031 I'm so sorry to hear that, I hope that that improves soon! I'll check out that one you did a few years ago. Feel free to reach out if you feel up for it at some point in the future.
This was so interesting 🙏🏻 I agree - when I use divination instinctively I query whether it is right for me to ask the question there are some questions at particular times that are not for us to ask the blank rune in the runes is a good example (meaning being -things have not played out enough yet for there to be an answer to the query or some things are not for us to ask) 🌙
This was such a rich source of astrological history! Oddly, I’ve just discovered Uranian astrology and would love to pick your brains about it if the topic comes up between you.
Great interview. It has always been a real sticking point for me as well, trying to find others to ‘Talk Astrology’ with…who aren’t rolling their eye balls about it assuming it being some ‘pseudo science’. I have held the stance of it being divination & it usually stops them in their tracks…unfortunately, it also stops the conversations too. Geoffrey Cornelius was so brilliant. 🙏💕 Thank You for this interview. I found it quite comforting.
The day after my 27th birthday I got reintroduced to Astrology somehow by accident by a group of classmates who were asking each other birthdate, back then I wasn't even sure if my Sun sign was Scorpio or Sagittarius. I just checked the transit of Uranus on that day, I'm 22 * Aries ASC and Uranus transit was 20* in Aries.
Loved the depth and perspective of this episode. As soon as you announced Geoffrey's passing I had gone back to take in your early interview with him. This provided a wonderful filling out of the topic. If you could get permission to post the audio of Geoffrey's Genghis Khan eclipse talk that Kirk Little references, I would love to hear that on The Astrology Podcast! Thanks for all you do....
At around 2:09, the subject of randomness arises. If we think of astrology as a divination based on sortalage, like Taro, I Ching or Runes where we have a bounded set of elements with conventional meanings, we see 8ne big difference with astrology. The planets follow regular, predictable courses as opposed to say, a shuffle of cards. The "randomness" in Tarot, for example, comes from the fact that the Towor card didn't "necessarily" have to come up. The position of Mars or the ascendant, by contrast WAS necessarily what it was. The so called random element in astrology is that a particular person had a concern at a given moment. The randomness is IN OUR LIVES, the heavens give our lives meaning when we ask. This is the ANIMISTIC part.
I'd be real curious if anyone out there is also familiar with quantum physics, and can you see any sort of correlation with/to astrology? I understand very little of it, but it seems really weird. I've heard that depending on the observer and their expectations, a particle's state will necessarily be affected. And that once one particle comes into contact with another, they are energetically linked forever. So consider how interestingly tiny bits of matter behave and interact with each other. How linked all matter is in ways that we are just beginning to comprehend. And I wonder if this is how one can "scientifically" reconcile that astrology works. Perhaps it's less: as above so below, and maybe as below, so above?
Yes, the fact that, almost universally accepted now, that a particle 3:21:44 is a wave until it is observed. Once unobserved, the particle again becomes a wave.
If the sun and moon ever align together to occult the beams of light from our primary luminaries & source of life... if they aligned in parallel to my passing.... I would feel that's monumental and be honored. But that's just me.
I guess I don’t really understand how anyone could think astrology could be validated by materialistic (ie scientific, empirical) methods in the first place. Seems almost masochistic to try. You can’t “prove” intuition either, but we know it exists.
@HollyNashWoodVille ⚕ Yes there's a non-anthropomorphic all-permeating and all-loving #Source of existence 🌈 The #Universal #Law of #Karma and #Reincarnation loves us all eternally 💜
There is some scientific evidence for astrology as can be seen in this video. The whole video is good but you can start at about 8 minutes in ruclips.net/video/-jtqMGKaw6c/видео.htmlsi=WZKWoxHctmuoN4Yt
Astrology sucked me in when Uranus was transiting/conjuncting my natal Sun in the 6th house. I also have Sun opposite Uranus (12th house) natally. I’m reading this to mean an “awakening of my consciousness” but not necessarily a call to study/practice it. It has been suggested to me to do so, but I don’t think that is my path. But I remain an astrology enthusiast and have incorporated it into my “daily routine”.
Once again I am here to express my appreciation for a fresh upload 🙏🏽
I am 1 hour into this talk and it is one of your best guests ever. SO engagingly fascinating. Absolutely such a great conversation with one of astrology's finest. Thank you Chris and Mr. Little.
Chris is such a master of listening and asking just a right questions that enable his guests to share their knowledge with us. I left this episode feeling like I was lucky to be given a gift. ❤
When I was going through hell during my Saturn return. I was reading Liz Greene's book. Saturn- A new look at an old devil. Ironically, the girl who was breaking my heart at the time loaned it to me. And that book helped me Tremendously! I came out the other side with much more wisdom. And a better understanding of what Saturn truly means.
Great Saturn book. Although I had to tease out the details from the sign=house modern astrology approach
speaking to symbolism, I was in the process one late winter morning, of realizing I was going to have to end a friendship. It pained me, as we had been friends for many years. But this friend was going places I could not follow, and I couldn't have that energy in my life. So I was sitting at my table, writing and crying, and looked out the window. A hawk was sitting on my deck. Staring at me. He stayed for about 20 minutes. (this is rare, as I am in a city, and if he comes by, its a fly by). He flew away, only to return again in a few minutes. Landing in a bush, there he sat for 2 hours. I had the sense that he was keeping me company on a sad and hard day, and took it also as a sign that I was right to end this friendship. I have not seen him since that day, but the presence has remained with me all these months later.
Eagles symbolize regal power, owls, the power of wisdom, hawks are quiet, personal power and steadfastness. Nice totem,.
Crazy coincidence. I started getting serius about understanding astrology about in the later part of 2021. Uranus was crossing my ascendant just about that time. Wild.
Same here! I’m just watching this podcast 4 weeks later. I just looked up when I went deeper into my Astro life and it was April 2009. Looked up my transits then and BAM- t Uranus ON my Asc 😮
I'm very grateful for the hard work you're sharing with me.
Also, I'm proud of the historical documentation you're providing to future generations.
Thank you, Chris & Kirk, and thank you to the whole team of people using their skill & experience to bring this work to the public.
I would like to express my condolences to the family & friends of Geoffrey Cornelius. I'm deeply moved by listening to this conversation, and I can't imagine the great space he must've held in the lives of those closest to him.
It's a beautiful honor to listen as Kirk & Chris discuss Geoffrey's impact on their lives and in the community of astrology.
May you rest peacefully, sir 🤍🕊
Ooo, I can’t wait to to get my coffee ☕️ and pour into this ❤❤❤
Thank you Chris. Utterly fascinating. I truly admire your work ethic always
Kirk Little is intriguing and rich !
💞L xxx
i love the ancient meaning of astrology being an energetic presentation of omens and possibilities for our choice and improvement. The best line--"Those who are closest to God (heaven) give the best readings."
I’ve found this so interesting and loved listening to you both. Thank you
I had Uranus cross my AC when I was thrust back into spiritual work and astrology. Had been studying it for almost a decade at the time, and had applied for a zillion jobs that I was super qualified to do- but one of the only interviews I got was to be an assistant for an energy healer who was good friends with Susan Miller, lol. The rest is history 😅
Oh! Wow! That's really cool.
Thank you Chris. Your interviews are never too long. We love how you delve deeply into Geoffrey’s life with Mr Little. We learn more about astrology & eclipses 🎉
Oh man…. Fascinating talk here
Thank you for this mind expanding mega treat✨
What a rich and beautiful talk, thank you ★
I appreciate you both beyond recompense !!
Great discussion guys, really getting to the heart of Geoffrey’s thinking and raising the debates around the apparent objectivity of astrology. I’d just like to add that Geoffrey was more influenced than you had time to mention by the neoplatonic astrology of Ficino which came via Plotinus. The philosophical understanding of the planets as divine signs not physical causes really underpinned his work and gave it intellectual credibility, and so much hinged on Ficino’s platonic understanding of symbol as intermediary between the divine and the world (and the symbolic imagination as Daimon). Also the fact that he could apply a theological model (the four senses of interpretation) to astrology lifted it into the realm of the sacred, I think that was a massive hermeneutical move on his part and achieved what Ficino was seeking to do in a less hospitable culture, unite pagan theurgy and mystical religion. Geoffrey was incredible and I feel so honoured to have worked with him in our academic programmes for over 20 years.
Thank you for sharing that! I've always meant to do an episode on Ficino, and would be an honor to do that episode with you sometime to talk about his life and work if you would be interested.
@@TheAstrologyPodcast thanks so much Chris, I’m a bit out of the loop at present trying to manage severe tinnitus, hyperacusis and EMF sensitivity which means online stuff is very challenging as is concentrating. But as soon as I feel up to it I’d love to. I did do this one a few years ago ruclips.net/video/l682UhzuYL4/видео.htmlsi=umABuSRxnVIWEYxY and there are quite a few other interviews at mythcosmologysacred RUclips channel on related topics including some things with Geoffrey.
I’m determined to work with Maggie and others to keep his work alive and get more published.
@@angelavoss5031 I'm so sorry to hear that, I hope that that improves soon! I'll check out that one you did a few years ago. Feel free to reach out if you feel up for it at some point in the future.
@@TheAstrologyPodcast I’m just getting a new Mac desktop which I hope will make life easier technologically so will let you know.
What an amazing way to get through this hurricane, thank you.
This channel is a treasure for and of humanity. Thank you❤
Thank You Chris and Kirk 🙏🌙🌠🌌
This was so interesting 🙏🏻 I agree - when I use divination instinctively I query whether it is right for me to ask the question there are some questions at particular times that are not for us to ask the blank rune in the runes is a good example (meaning being -things have not played out enough yet for there to be an answer to the query or some things are not for us to ask) 🌙
2:47:18 "Where else are you going to find more honest evaluation than people who fundamentally disagree with you?"
2:06:13 Such a good perspective!! Divination is related to chance!! 🎰🔮🃏
This was such a rich source of astrological history!
Oddly, I’ve just discovered Uranian astrology and would love to pick your brains about it if the topic comes up between you.
Absolutely loved this insightful thought provoking discussion! I could listen to the topic of fate vs free will all day long! Thank you Chris!❤
Great interview. It has always been a real sticking point for me as well, trying to find others to ‘Talk Astrology’ with…who aren’t rolling their eye balls about it assuming it being some ‘pseudo science’. I have held the stance of it being divination & it usually stops them in their tracks…unfortunately, it also stops the conversations too. Geoffrey Cornelius was so brilliant. 🙏💕 Thank You for this interview. I found it quite comforting.
Thank you!
The day after my 27th birthday I got reintroduced to Astrology somehow by accident by a group of classmates who were asking each other birthdate, back then I wasn't even sure if my Sun sign was Scorpio or Sagittarius. I just checked the transit of Uranus on that day, I'm 22 * Aries ASC and Uranus transit was 20* in Aries.
1st November,-Happy Birthday Chris
Absolutely fascinating talk! Thank you 💫
such an interesting talk, thank you!
Thank you both so much! ♡♡
Loved the depth and perspective of this episode. As soon as you announced Geoffrey's passing I had gone back to take in your early interview with him. This provided a wonderful filling out of the topic. If you could get permission to post the audio of Geoffrey's Genghis Khan eclipse talk that Kirk Little references, I would love to hear that on The Astrology Podcast! Thanks for all you do....
I too am a cancer with Scorpio rising, sun in 8th house. I haven't heard more than six minutes
Thank you.
At around 2:09, the subject of randomness arises. If we think of astrology as a divination based on sortalage, like Taro, I Ching or Runes where we have a bounded set of elements with conventional meanings, we see 8ne big difference with astrology. The planets follow regular, predictable courses as opposed to say, a shuffle of cards. The "randomness" in Tarot, for example, comes from the fact that the Towor card didn't "necessarily" have to come up. The position of Mars or the ascendant, by contrast WAS necessarily what it was. The so called random element in astrology is that a particular person had a concern at a given moment. The randomness is IN OUR LIVES, the heavens give our lives meaning when we ask. This is the ANIMISTIC part.
Omen Nomenclature is the measured ability to divine the time in a language that makes meaning...
Not only can astrology and science coexist; until astrology was vilified, they existed as two sides of the same coin.
I'd be real curious if anyone out there is also familiar with quantum physics, and can you see any sort of correlation with/to astrology? I understand very little of it, but it seems really weird. I've heard that depending on the observer and their expectations, a particle's state will necessarily be affected. And that once one particle comes into contact with another, they are energetically linked forever. So consider how interestingly tiny bits of matter behave and interact with each other. How linked all matter is in ways that we are just beginning to comprehend. And I wonder if this is how one can "scientifically" reconcile that astrology works. Perhaps it's less: as above so below, and maybe as below, so above?
Yes, the fact that, almost universally accepted now, that a particle 3:21:44 is a wave until it is observed. Once unobserved, the particle again becomes a wave.
@@melissamoore521could that be because of the limitations of our sight. And perceptions 🤷♀️
Are you going to cover the P. diddy fall out in your October forecast - wow 😮
this 🙌🏼
I saw Dane Rudhyar and Mark Edmund Jones in Seattle in the early 70s. Must have been the same tour.
Can anyone easily pull a bibliography from this episode? So many references! Maybe I’ll sift through the transcript.
Wonderful, do you remember Robert Buzz Myers from Cleveland Ohio. My mentor. Monna. BTW Bob Mulligan, an old friend from Naples FL. Monna
Can we get a relocation video on things like astrocatrography 🥺
Chris did an episode on astrocartography with Helena Woods. 1 year ago or so.
@@Applepie910 sayless thanks🥹 i need to find someone who can read mine cause all my places dont look to well😭
Did I hear that I share the same 8H cancer sun and Scoprio rising as Mr.Little? 🎉
If the sun and moon ever align together to occult the beams of light from our primary luminaries & source of life... if they aligned in parallel to my passing.... I would feel that's monumental and be honored. But that's just me.
5:00- bob Mulligan, Elysian tree bookstore
You tube is what it is only easy with myself.
Please publish Turkish language subtitles as well.
Astrology is Divination
I’m a Kansas Sun, Scorpio man Virgo rise 1961 go
**Mehmet has entered the chat**
I guess I don’t really understand how anyone could think astrology could be validated by materialistic (ie scientific, empirical) methods in the first place. Seems almost masochistic to try. You can’t “prove” intuition either, but we know it exists.
Third! 😊
In what sense do you do due the best way for us that we will up be us 😅? You got no reason to Richard be able to do right now I don't know that '
Graduation bunyons is to study the hands that give way more to you and your family They have been orderly.
The idea of a "controlled environment" is so bonkers. There's just no such thing. Science needs to actually catch up with the spirit world, lol
🦚God Loves Us All⚕Eternally👁grateful💜jis🌟
Is there a god..?
@HollyNashWoodVille ⚕ Yes there's a non-anthropomorphic all-permeating and all-loving #Source of existence 🌈 The #Universal #Law of #Karma and #Reincarnation loves us all eternally 💜
There is some scientific evidence for astrology as can be seen in this video. The whole video is good but you can start at about 8 minutes in ruclips.net/video/-jtqMGKaw6c/видео.htmlsi=WZKWoxHctmuoN4Yt
Who here embraced astrology as Uranus crossed the stakes of their natal?
🧏 crossed my Mc & here I am.
Astrology sucked me in when Uranus was transiting/conjuncting my natal Sun in the 6th house. I also have Sun opposite Uranus (12th house) natally. I’m reading this to mean an “awakening of my consciousness” but not necessarily a call to study/practice it. It has been suggested to me to do so, but I don’t think that is my path. But I remain an astrology enthusiast and have incorporated it into my “daily routine”.
Thank you!