Tom Brady said it best. The expectations for your young quarterbacks today is much too high, rookies are expected to come in and immediately be CJ Stroud or Jayden Daniels and those are not realistic expectations.
There is still a base level of competence required. Bryce Young has started 19 games and has only had one game where he threw for over 250 yards and three games where he threw multiple TDs. Bo Nix got that in 8 games and he hardly has an All-Star cast around him. Anthony Richardson's completion percentage this season would not only be the worst in this season but also the worst in 1960. Maybe the teams didn't do the best job but at some point, you got to blame the prospects for not scaling up.
I do agree, but owners and GMs don't see it as impossible. If it can happen, they want it too. It's messed up like crazy but that's where we at right now.
Tom Brady is just as much to blame for expectations of young quarterbacks. He essentially came off of the bench and produced. The reason he was able to produce was that he prepared for it. Week 8 and Richardson is gassed from running back to the line of scrimmage. If he is not willing to be in physical condition than he has not earned the right to play.
@@unc54Richardson shouldn’t have been taken that high plus he was one that obviously needed work. Injuries to the team and himself especially have already derailed his early career. However, he must feel wayyyyyyh too entitled to come out a game. I used to die of short breath in the backyard. He’s gotta get his respect back that was a loser move and loser mentality….
These everyday talk shows, criticizing everything doesn't help either. If you call QB the hardest position, how do you expect kids out of college to get it straight away? Too much noise from outside and these Teams are reacting to it. At least, give them 3 years.
The talk shows that eviscerated the Atlanta Falcons for picking Penix knowing that they were going to sit him for at least two years so he could learn is now complaining that the system of rushing young quarterbacks out is a bad idea. Got it.
Tom Brady doesn’t become Tom Brady without coming off the bench and watching someone with more experience play. Drew Bledsoe was a top 5 qb at the time and allowed Brady to see someone play at a high level. They throwing QBs out here and expecting them to be Superman while they give them phoney/mid weapons or none at all. There is a lack of development and tools to set them up for success
LOLOL Colts have a Top5 RB a Great Oline and the WRs look just fine with Flacco throwing. Funny when Certain QBs SUCK AS* its all the sudden oh they dont have weapons etc/ Flacco makes IND WRs look great A. Richardson SUCKS
@ Taylor is a great running back but let’s not act like he hasn’t been injured frequently as of recent. Outside of Michael Pittman, who on that roster is a threat cuz I can’t name a soul at the wide receiver position. No is scared of that group. I need people to stop acting like you could throw out any wide receivers and they are a weapon. I’m not saying they suck but let’s not act like they are the most viable threat.
Colts. If you look at Rodgers behind Favre, Love behind him. Maybe dude sitting on the bench a few years isn't the worst thing. He was always a long term project.
The problem is these organizations are horrible. Why start a rookie when you do not really have fully filled team? Look at the Falcons, that is how you draft a rookie and set him up for success. Look at the Packers. Look and the Chiefs. All these team had a decent starter and slowly brought the rookie along to start.
But the coaches literally aren't teaching them anything and just telling rookies "good luck hope you get it". NFL players literally legislated practicing out the NFL essentially, so rookie are getting the least amount of off season and practice reps in the history of the NFL
@georgealvarez1195 that's on the players too. Not the rookies but the players before them need to be blamed. Part of of the contract Shannon Sharpe alluded to when he was on undisputed is no more two-a-days or intense practices and they should be allowed to smoke weed. That's on the players.
@@killakam9006 thats true in some cases. I do agree Vince Young for example would've had a better career and better person if Jeff Fisher wasn't there. Jared golf was better after fisher was fired.
I normally agree with that sentiment, but in this rare case he's right. Too many of these teams are looking for instant success. There is only one Mahomes. There are only a handful of Daniels and Strouds. I'm not saying that AR and Young arent bad, but look at Justin Fields. He went to a competent organization and you see the talent that got him drafted. Imagine if he had that from day one
@@NueAstrosirus In order to increase deep passes and decrease screens and check downs because he wants more offense. You keyboard warriors always try to take people out of context. I disagree with him on cover 2 thing, doesn't mean he is dumb.
I am a Colts fan and Anthony has a LOT to learn. So much that I think sitting behind Flacco and learning will actually be beneficial which a lot of people said before was a good thing, now its "OH THEY GOTTA PLAY NOW" which I have no clue where this came from. Ant was rehabbing so wasn't with the team much last year, if he can learn from Flacco I think he will be fine but between tapping out of the game for being tired and 10-32, you can't keep starting him. He is clearly not ready in any capacity to play.
ironically cj stroud tonight was 11-30. But yes Anthony Richardson needs to sit behind a vet qb and see how he goes about the day to day practices and preparations for games. People forget hes still the youngest qb in the nfl hes younger than jayden Daniels.
Most NFL franchises do not have the patience to develop a young QB over time. And the coaches understand all too well that a couple of losing seasons in a row will likely cost someone his job. They need results right away. They put him on the field as soon as possible to save a team deeply flawed in other areas.
I think that's a bit of an overreaction. It's clear he's not ready. Would you rather want a guy to admit he isn't capable of what he's being asked of NOW and not in the playoffs? I dunno, I think everyone is making a mountain out of a molehill.
AR didn't just make a mistake. He has been historically bad. The problem isn't that teams can't develop QB talent, it's that they can't evaluate them in the first place. AR and these other QBs were never as good as their draft positions indicated.
How much of this under development is related to a sense of urgency to win on a rookie contract vs the difficulty a team had building around a $60M/y qb?
Can we just talk about how literally just yesterday this same panel was practically calling for this very thing to happen because of the "I was tired" comments. Now...they act like the decision was wrong? This right here is the reason why some young careers end. It's the NFL, if it were supposed to be easy Dan Orlovsky would have been a household name.
The ravens have absolutely no excuses they have a Super Bowl winning head coach at the helm along with a 2 or 3 Time rushing leader who’s resume speaks for itself who also won the heisman a Qb who won a heisman 2 stud receivers and a tight end along with a stout defense
@snarf0596 honestly, how do you only give Derrick Henry 11 carries in a game like that. And Henry was averaging 7 ypc to that point too… it’s like harbaugh is trying to find creative ways to lose on purpose
Just put Anthony Richardson in the backfield or at slot and call it a day. Maybe he just picked the wrong position as a kid and got away with it bcs he’s athletic.
Why is there such a step off from starter to back up? Also if there’s such a step off for rookie qb then why not have a vet start while the rookie sits?
The only scenario that really works for Coach Prime is if Carolina and David Tepper decide to tank by sitting Bryce Young on the bench to trade him. Then they could draft Sheduer Sanders, bring in Coach Prime, and let him run the show with a big paycheck and a small ownership stake. Plus, they could set up an NIL collective for CU/JSU and start a new Prime Prep boarding school in North Carolina. This will quill any haters, appease new and old fans while building the foundation for the future. Win or lose it would be printing money and the cost would be peanuts in comparison to the possible potential earning.
Honestly with these young QBs, it’s either you got it or you don’t. Some guys take longer to develop than others but if you can play, it will show. If you take a guy in the top 10, they have to be ready to go sooner rather than later. If not then draft an impact player & pick your QB later in the 1st round or other rounds. Jordan Love needed to sit & he was drafted at the appropriate slot. Same with Jalen Hurts. It’s on the organizations to appropriately evaluate these guys and draft them accordingly. A top 10 pick better have been one of the best 10 players in CFB.
more football training/preseason games/reps are needed for these guys plus have the CFL/THE ROCK'S UFL/ & ARENA-INDOOR LEAGUES can help these guys get stronger with their performances ...NOT EVERYBODY IS BUILD TO BE IN THE BOG BOYS OF THE NFL
@jtquatro4602 that's not true for Baker. He's literally got signed to $100 years or multiple years. Darnold is a bridge and might be a starter somewhere next year or even possible be with the Vikings next year.
I’m a panthers fan and while watching this, I think these two would have had more success if they were switched. Carolina needs a qb that can run, colts need a pocket guy.
The part they completely overlooked - salary cap. Teams want to get a QB on the field while they’re on their rookie deal. If they reach their second contract in all likelihood they will take around 20% of the teams cap.
I've Said This Time & Time Again in my groups. It's Asinine For An NFL Team To Expect A Collegiate Rookie QB To Come In & Save Their Struggling Professional Franchise! Draft A QB Accordingly & Give'Em Time To Develop. Sit them and let them learn! Everyone is too impatient for wanting the next Mahomes or Stroud right away! Look to these for a Recipe For Success, i.e. Steve McNair, Aaron Rodgers, Jordan Love
i don't know why i would have to suggest this, this late in the game, but somebody should put names under the guys on the screen through the show. i can see from the description douglas and mccourty are the new broadcasters up there. but i have no idea which is which until @14:49 where they finally identify mccourty.
Guys like Aikman and Manning learned by year two... you'll see if the QB has it or not. The problem is that teams invest high draft picks on guys and gamble with QB's. If they invest in who they think the best player in the draft is, these QB's wont be in this much pressure to win now.
Crazy to hear a respectable ex football player say "you're not winning the Super Bowl now so what does winning now even mean?"...What?! So just don't try to win? Your fan base? Respect? Learning how to win? Attendance? Free agents wanting to sign? Culture? ESPN is getting wild.
What he’s saying is, you’re not winning a super bowl this year- so if you believe in the talent, your best bet is to build him up for the future. Imagine if the Colts benched Peyton his rookie year
@ I’m just drawing the scenario. This is still year 1 for AR, he got hurt last year and this year. He’s like 12 starts in. Peyton also set the record for most ints as a rookie. Obviously Peyton was a far better prospect but if you believe in the talent either sit him from the beginning and let him learn or deal with the growing pains on the field. He would’ve played a decent game last week if the WRs could catch
@@mr.brooks9802that’s different . Peyton in his rookie year had something that nobody else had . Richardson doesn’t have anything close to that . Rogers was the same , Josh Allen was the same . Mediocre first seasons sure , especially on paper - but the eye told you a different story.
Coaches are getting coaches fired. Vrabel lost his job because they couldn't develop Willis and now all of a sudden he goes to a good offensive coach and he's winning games and looking good
My only question/concern is where do the Colts think they’re going this season? What are the expectations in the immediate time period that Flacco can give you that Richardson can’t?
I'm "OLD SCHOOL"! If you're going to play your rookie quarterbacks, let them play and learn from their mistakes. Otherwise, sign a veteran quarterback and let the rookie quarterbacks that you drafted learn from the veteran quarterback for three years!!!
I hate this discussion, when has every team had great qb throughout the league at once, it’s a hit or miss league we have about 8-10 young players QBs playing great rn
Is anyone gonna mention all the other players on the roster who won't be there next season? who is gonna stump for them and their careers, they don't have "time" for the QB to develop. I applaud the coaches who are putting the other guys In that locker room first as opposed the "organization" that will most likely fire them in 3-5 years without a second thought anyways.
They’re talking like the Colts just cut AR. He wasn’t playing well. There’s no reason to rush a QB who isn’t ready to start. Are they just supposed to keep him on the field with a sub 50% completion percentage. It’s better to sit and develop than it is to play and not develop.
I have to ask another question? why didnt the Colts protect their rookie QB. There was no reason that anyone needed to know he came out because he was tired. They could have said he was injured or had an equipment issue. Took him to the blue tent etc... Either they wanted it out there or the staff isn't competent.
They should never have been first round draft picks, if they were picked in 3rd round no one would be talking about it, which is where alot of first round QB should have gone in past 10 drafts. There is just QB inflation atm. Mac jones, Zac Wilson , Trey Lance , Bryce Young , Anthony Richardson. Justin Fields , Kenny pickett, Will Levis, Daniel Jones, Dwayne Haskins, Josh Rosen, none of these guys would have been taken in the first round 20 years ago except maybe Justin Fields (i thought he was pretty good in college). Lamar was taken at 32 just 7 drafts ago.
If he didn’t tap out and sub himself out of the game for “being tired” I would have a problem with benching He needs to earn the trust of his teammates and coaches back.
Peyton Manning wouldn't have survived these crazy development cycles. Sam Howell threw like 21 INT in his first full season on the Commanders...I don't even know what team he's even on right now smh.
I hate the excuses they give QBs. They get the most money, take the least amount of contact, and then after they take 1/3 of the salary everyone is asking where the help is smdh
This league doesn't let the quarterback play through mistakes anymore unless the teams are winning. Look at bo nix He's getting better and better every week and his team is winning he's still making mistakes A quarterback has to be good enough to where the team wins even with his mistakes.
Also the hipocrisy of all the people on the panel that only want to develop young guys, when there's guys like Russ that maybe have a chance to take their team on a deep playoff run, but we were going to write them off because there happens to be a younger player that people want to develop (even if they've been backup quality throughout their career)
This is why there will NEVER be another Tom Brady or even Payton manning. Nobody is developed and nobody will be. Nobody wants to WORK either. Mahomes himself is even from a “older” era which is wild to say.
If your mentality is "destroyed" for getting benched when you're the worse QB on the roster, then you probably can't hack it in the NFL in the first place.
issue IS! They get forced to play the games in the league that they lacked in college!! No wonder guys that played MORE GAMES tend to do better in the league.
Teams are going to stack the box against the Ravens if they want to go where they’re trying to than they have to be able to do get it done thru the air as well.
NFL needs a G league, they keep drafting these young guys, immediately forcing them into the game, and then calling them busts after 4 games. Meanwhile this 19yr old is being the QB on a terrible team and expected to magically make them great.
I don’t understand. I thought throwing young qbs to the wolves in bad offenses with no help was the problem. Wouldn’t it make sense to bench a guy his rookie year why you build the offense for him? Let him get his feet wet with the playbook? Doesn’t that make sense? Why do they have to start year one?????
I tune Dan out as much as possible because it's hard to give credibility to an ex QB that critiques QB play, and other NFL player's, when he sucked so bad at the job himself.
It's Mahomes effect and CJ Stroud make it worse. Now team just expect to win quickly while the QB contract are cheap without even stop to think that those two I mention were an outlier not a norm.
I wouldn't talk about Russ either.. he may be one of the only Superbowl winning QBs to still be playing but everyone knows the Legion of Boom led them to and won that Superbowl! You seen what happened the next yr when they decided to put the ball in Russ's hands!
I wouldn't say their futures are in question yes young will probably be let go and have to prove himself somewhere else but we have seen recently that starting their career badly doesn't mean their career is over. Donald was considered a bust now he's not.
Not every quarterback is going to be what you think he's going to be some are cut out for this some are not the league doesn't have a quarterback development problem because you can't make every quarterback a great quarterback
You can do everything that Dan and Mel Kiper said, devote years and resources to developing a QB, and the QB still has the same chance of not panning out. For a lot of teams it's more cost effective to just move off a guy early and try again than it is to go down the 4-5 year hole of developing a QB that can't be developed.
Mel Kiper Needs to Stop Talking or Slow down. Anthony Richardson Needs to Be Bench, Not for his Plays, but For Not thinking before Speaking. We the Young Generations have Lost that and need to get it back, Think Before Speaking, Cause He Is A Business and He Needs to Know that. This is Why we are having the Errors we Are Having We Want to Baby everyone and then Ask Where did it all Go Wrong, Stop 🛑. He needs to be BENCH, Fresh Start Next Season.
Sometimes the quarterback is just not good enough and it’s not the coaches fault nor is it due to expectations or the modern culture of football. Some guys just are busts 🤷 I feel like we’ve lost the ability to call a spade a spade
Billionaire owners are more trigger happy in firing GMs and coaches and buying out their contracts That is the story in why they refuse to developed young QBs
They drafted a stud that played 12 games total in college. Potential, sure on paper. Dude is a guy, from a qb perspective YET, maybe.. bad use of a draft pick and clearly he is not good. Let him sit until he can do the easy stuff. My guess he won’t be in the league 2 years from now.
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Tom Brady said it best. The expectations for your young quarterbacks today is much too high, rookies are expected to come in and immediately be CJ Stroud or Jayden Daniels and those are not realistic expectations.
There is still a base level of competence required. Bryce Young has started 19 games and has only had one game where he threw for over 250 yards and three games where he threw multiple TDs. Bo Nix got that in 8 games and he hardly has an All-Star cast around him.
Anthony Richardson's completion percentage this season would not only be the worst in this season but also the worst in 1960.
Maybe the teams didn't do the best job but at some point, you got to blame the prospects for not scaling up.
I do agree, but owners and GMs don't see it as impossible. If it can happen, they want it too. It's messed up like crazy but that's where we at right now.
Tom Brady is just as much to blame for expectations of young quarterbacks. He essentially came off of the bench and produced. The reason he was able to produce was that he prepared for it. Week 8 and Richardson is gassed from running back to the line of scrimmage. If he is not willing to be in physical condition than he has not earned the right to play.
Exactly. Literally gambling these guys careers. I think the league has a serious coaching problem
@@unc54Richardson shouldn’t have been taken that high plus he was one that obviously needed work. Injuries to the team and himself especially have already derailed his early career. However, he must feel wayyyyyyh too entitled to come out a game. I used to die of short breath in the backyard. He’s gotta get his respect back that was a loser move and loser mentality….
These everyday talk shows, criticizing everything doesn't help either. If you call QB the hardest position, how do you expect kids out of college to get it straight away?
Too much noise from outside and these Teams are reacting to it. At least, give them 3 years.
that 3 years to learn thing doesn't seem to be helping a guy like Jordan Love
You think the media dictates the decisions on these QB over the film?
It’s their job to commentate on sports and critique the athletes. If this gets in their heads then shouldn’t be playing at the next level
The NFL doesn't wait for you to be a competent player. Either you got it or you don't.
Either you have it or you don’t. It’s life
The talk shows that eviscerated the Atlanta Falcons for picking Penix knowing that they were going to sit him for at least two years so he could learn is now complaining that the system of rushing young quarterbacks out is a bad idea. Got it.
Great point! RiseUp!
That’s a great point
You are spot on
He’s old and you waste his contract
@@Yut-vs7zg24 is old?
A lot of the problem is, these teams reach for a QB. A lot of QBs don’t deserve to go top 10 but they will just because of need.
Tom Brady doesn’t become Tom Brady without coming off the bench and watching someone with more experience play. Drew Bledsoe was a top 5 qb at the time and allowed Brady to see someone play at a high level. They throwing QBs out here and expecting them to be Superman while they give them phoney/mid weapons or none at all. There is a lack of development and tools to set them up for success
LOLOL Colts have a Top5 RB a Great Oline and the WRs look just fine with Flacco throwing. Funny when Certain QBs SUCK AS* its all the sudden oh they dont have weapons etc/ Flacco makes IND WRs look great A. Richardson SUCKS
@ Taylor is a great running back but let’s not act like he hasn’t been injured frequently as of recent. Outside of Michael Pittman, who on that roster is a threat cuz I can’t name a soul at the wide receiver position. No is scared of that group. I need people to stop acting like you could throw out any wide receivers and they are a weapon. I’m not saying they suck but let’s not act like they are the most viable threat.
@@ohsaycanyousee.6891 Downs when Flacco is QB is great so is Peirce. Richardson makes it look like they have noone. Watch Downs now Richardson is gone
@@ohsaycanyousee.6891 Downs if Flacco was QB all yr would be a 1200 yard WR. Last 5 games hes been that guy/he just had a 100 yard game.
Colts. If you look at Rodgers behind Favre, Love behind him. Maybe dude sitting on the bench a few years isn't the worst thing. He was always a long term project.
Jimmy G behind Brady?
The problem is these organizations are horrible. Why start a rookie when you do not really have fully filled team? Look at the Falcons, that is how you draft a rookie and set him up for success. Look at the Packers. Look and the Chiefs. All these team had a decent starter and slowly brought the rookie along to start.
IND has a great team and will be fine with Flacco
Got to stop blaming different coaching staffs. Need to admit that players fail and not all of them are meant to play at the NFL level.
But the coaches literally aren't teaching them anything and just telling rookies "good luck hope you get it". NFL players literally legislated practicing out the NFL essentially, so rookie are getting the least amount of off season and practice reps in the history of the NFL
@georgealvarez1195 that's on the players too. Not the rookies but the players before them need to be blamed. Part of of the contract Shannon Sharpe alluded to when he was on undisputed is no more two-a-days or intense practices and they should be allowed to smoke weed. That's on the players.
it’s goes both ways every player ain’t for every coach . i agree with my man J Mac the colts ain’t winning a bowl game
@@killakam9006 thats true in some cases. I do agree Vince Young for example would've had a better career and better person if Jeff Fisher wasn't there. Jared golf was better after fisher was fired.
In the immortal words of Bill Tobin ex Colts GM "Who cares what Mel Kiper says"
Maybe if he listened he wouldn't be an ex-gm lmao
@@LlamaBearMan Yes let's listen to the guy who said ban cover-2 base defense lmao
I normally agree with that sentiment, but in this rare case he's right.
Too many of these teams are looking for instant success. There is only one Mahomes. There are only a handful of Daniels and Strouds. I'm not saying that AR and Young arent bad, but look at Justin Fields. He went to a competent organization and you see the talent that got him drafted. Imagine if he had that from day one
@@NueAstrosirus In order to increase deep passes and decrease screens and check downs because he wants more offense. You keyboard warriors always try to take people out of context. I disagree with him on cover 2 thing, doesn't mean he is dumb.
In the immortal word of Bill Polian ex Colts GM "Lamar should be a Wide Receiver"
I am a Colts fan and Anthony has a LOT to learn. So much that I think sitting behind Flacco and learning will actually be beneficial which a lot of people said before was a good thing, now its "OH THEY GOTTA PLAY NOW" which I have no clue where this came from. Ant was rehabbing so wasn't with the team much last year, if he can learn from Flacco I think he will be fine but between tapping out of the game for being tired and 10-32, you can't keep starting him. He is clearly not ready in any capacity to play.
ironically cj stroud tonight was 11-30. But yes Anthony Richardson needs to sit behind a vet qb and see how he goes about the day to day practices and preparations for games. People forget hes still the youngest qb in the nfl hes younger than jayden Daniels.
@ Yep agreed.
The “CJ strouds and Jayden Daniel’s’ of the league are ruining these players careers before they get started
Ye stroud looks amazing this year….
Most NFL franchises do not have the patience to develop a young QB over time. And the coaches understand all too well that a couple of losing seasons in a row will likely cost someone his job. They need results right away. They put him on the field as soon as possible to save a team deeply flawed in other areas.
You deserve to be benched if you sub yourself out for being ‘tired’
That I agree and his completion % is terrible
forget being benched, i would cut that person from the team immediately. Richardson can go to the CFL for all i care
I think that's a bit of an overreaction. It's clear he's not ready. Would you rather want a guy to admit he isn't capable of what he's being asked of NOW and not in the playoffs? I dunno, I think everyone is making a mountain out of a molehill.
@@RocketsredbearRichardson is a bust, it's that simple
@@dhehighlights3209never have I ever seen a qb be 2-15😂😂
If the guy can’t play better week after week then they cost other players and coaches money and jobs. That’s why they get benched earlier.
Bingo.
Everyone would do the same thing if put in that situation
AR didn't just make a mistake. He has been historically bad. The problem isn't that teams can't develop QB talent, it's that they can't evaluate them in the first place. AR and these other QBs were never as good as their draft positions indicated.
Is that why Malik Willis looked good awful with the titans and suddenly he looks pretty ok with the Packers?
How much of this under development is related to a sense of urgency to win on a rookie contract vs the difficulty a team had building around a $60M/y qb?
Can we just talk about how literally just yesterday this same panel was practically calling for this very thing to happen because of the "I was tired" comments. Now...they act like the decision was wrong? This right here is the reason why some young careers end. It's the NFL, if it were supposed to be easy Dan Orlovsky would have been a household name.
The ravens have absolutely no excuses they have a Super Bowl winning head coach at the helm along with a 2 or 3 Time rushing leader who’s resume speaks for itself who also won the heisman a Qb who won a heisman 2 stud receivers and a tight end along with a stout defense
Lol Harbaugh is the worst coach with a stacked team. He always finds a way to lose winnable games. His game time management is horrible
@ you meant Kyle shanahan and his game management is better than Dan Quinn’s And Dan Campbell wasn’t really good last year when it mattered either
@snarf0596 honestly, how do you only give Derrick Henry 11 carries in a game like that. And Henry was averaging 7 ypc to that point too… it’s like harbaugh is trying to find creative ways to lose on purpose
Steelers are really in the best situation securing their future.
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Bryce is going to be just fine!
Just put Anthony Richardson in the backfield or at slot and call it a day. Maybe he just picked the wrong position as a kid and got away with it bcs he’s athletic.
Why is there such a step off from starter to back up? Also if there’s such a step off for rookie qb then why not have a vet start while the rookie sits?
The only scenario that really works for Coach Prime is if Carolina and David Tepper decide to tank by sitting Bryce Young on the bench to trade him. Then they could draft Sheduer Sanders, bring in Coach Prime, and let him run the show with a big paycheck and a small ownership stake. Plus, they could set up an NIL collective for CU/JSU and start a new Prime Prep boarding school in North Carolina. This will quill any haters, appease new and old fans while building the foundation for the future. Win or lose it would be printing money and the cost would be peanuts in comparison to the possible potential earning.
Honestly with these young QBs, it’s either you got it or you don’t. Some guys take longer to develop than others but if you can play, it will show. If you take a guy in the top 10, they have to be ready to go sooner rather than later. If not then draft an impact player & pick your QB later in the 1st round or other rounds. Jordan Love needed to sit & he was drafted at the appropriate slot. Same with Jalen Hurts. It’s on the organizations to appropriately evaluate these guys and draft them accordingly. A top 10 pick better have been one of the best 10 players in CFB.
The entire universe knew that 🐜 Richardson wasn't ready. He needs a few years
Wow, that's a lot of hot air coming out of that room!
more football training/preseason games/reps are needed for these guys plus have the CFL/THE ROCK'S UFL/ & ARENA-INDOOR LEAGUES can help these guys get stronger with their performances ...NOT EVERYBODY IS BUILD TO BE IN THE BOG BOYS OF THE NFL
People need to acknowledge that this is normal. There will almost always be busts in any qb draft
Baker & Darnold were considered Bust but are doing great now under different systems.
Yea but they still are backups in reality and are playing for organizations as bridge QBs. I agree with the OG statement of there are always busts.
@jtquatro4602 that's not true for Baker. He's literally got signed to $100 years or multiple years.
Darnold is a bridge and might be a starter somewhere next year or even possible be with the Vikings next year.
Darnold isn't good
Fax 📠
I’m a panthers fan and while watching this, I think these two would have had more success if they were switched. Carolina needs a qb that can run, colts need a pocket guy.
The part they completely overlooked - salary cap. Teams want to get a QB on the field while they’re on their rookie deal. If they reach their second contract in all likelihood they will take around 20% of the teams cap.
I've Said This Time & Time Again in my groups. It's Asinine For An NFL Team To Expect A Collegiate Rookie QB To Come In & Save Their Struggling Professional Franchise!
Draft A QB Accordingly & Give'Em Time To Develop. Sit them and let them learn! Everyone is too impatient for wanting the next Mahomes or Stroud right away!
Look to these for a Recipe For Success, i.e. Steve McNair, Aaron Rodgers, Jordan Love
The real problem is if you keep them, once the contract is up you got to mortgage the franchise on a contract for a guy that isn’t worth it.
i don't know why i would have to suggest this, this late in the game, but somebody should put names under the guys on the screen through the show. i can see from the description douglas and mccourty are the new broadcasters up there. but i have no idea which is which until @14:49 where they finally identify mccourty.
Guys like Aikman and Manning learned by year two... you'll see if the QB has it or not. The problem is that teams invest high draft picks on guys and gamble with QB's. If they invest in who they think the best player in the draft is, these QB's wont be in this much pressure to win now.
Crazy to hear a respectable ex football player say "you're not winning the Super Bowl now so what does winning now even mean?"...What?! So just don't try to win? Your fan base? Respect? Learning how to win? Attendance? Free agents wanting to sign? Culture? ESPN is getting wild.
What he’s saying is, you’re not winning a super bowl this year- so if you believe in the talent, your best bet is to build him up for the future. Imagine if the Colts benched Peyton his rookie year
@@mr.brooks9802did Peyton have a 44% completion in year 2?
In year 1 he set the rookie TD record
@ I’m just drawing the scenario. This is still year 1 for AR, he got hurt last year and this year. He’s like 12 starts in. Peyton also set the record for most ints as a rookie. Obviously Peyton was a far better prospect but if you believe in the talent either sit him from the beginning and let him learn or deal with the growing pains on the field. He would’ve played a decent game last week if the WRs could catch
@@mr.brooks9802that’s different . Peyton in his rookie year had something that nobody else had . Richardson doesn’t have anything close to that . Rogers was the same , Josh Allen was the same . Mediocre first seasons sure , especially on paper - but the eye told you a different story.
@@ckqhe also had like 18 interceptions that rookie year as well
QBs are getting coaches fired now. That’s why
Coaches are getting coaches fired. Vrabel lost his job because they couldn't develop Willis and now all of a sudden he goes to a good offensive coach and he's winning games and looking good
It's a vicious cycle. All the time and money invested in a player only yo bench them because everyone believes they are willing the Super Bowl today.
My only question/concern is where do the Colts think they’re going this season? What are the expectations in the immediate time period that Flacco can give you that Richardson can’t?
Just win games and show Anthony Richardson how to manage games and play QB under pressure. Flacco starting will be good for ARich’s development
I'm "OLD SCHOOL"! If you're going to play your rookie quarterbacks, let them play and learn from their mistakes. Otherwise, sign a veteran quarterback and let the rookie quarterbacks that you drafted learn from the veteran quarterback for three years!!!
Love they said that. There is no time to develop these QBs. The head coaches are under too much pressure to win now. It starts there.
I hate this discussion, when has every team had great qb throughout the league at once, it’s a hit or miss league we have about 8-10 young players QBs playing great rn
Is anyone gonna mention all the other players on the roster who won't be there next season? who is gonna stump for them and their careers, they don't have "time" for the QB to develop. I applaud the coaches who are putting the other guys In that locker room first as opposed the "organization" that will most likely fire them in 3-5 years without a second thought anyways.
The problem is most of these guys aren’t good to be even 1st rounds picks , teams reach too hard for qb’s
They’re talking like the Colts just cut AR. He wasn’t playing well. There’s no reason to rush a QB who isn’t ready to start. Are they just supposed to keep him on the field with a sub 50% completion percentage. It’s better to sit and develop than it is to play and not develop.
I'm sorry who was the guy that said to watch out for Richardson this season?
I have to ask another question? why didnt the Colts protect their rookie QB. There was no reason that anyone needed to know he came out because he was tired. They could have said he was injured or had an equipment issue. Took him to the blue tent etc... Either they wanted it out there or the staff isn't competent.
They should never have been first round draft picks, if they were picked in 3rd round no one would be talking about it, which is where alot of first round QB should have gone in past 10 drafts. There is just QB inflation atm. Mac jones, Zac Wilson , Trey Lance , Bryce Young , Anthony Richardson. Justin Fields , Kenny pickett, Will Levis, Daniel Jones, Dwayne Haskins, Josh Rosen, none of these guys would have been taken in the first round 20 years ago except maybe Justin Fields (i thought he was pretty good in college). Lamar was taken at 32 just 7 drafts ago.
Well take AR as a back up for CJ to run qb sneaks
Why is anybody still listening to Mel kipper
Look at the teams these rookie QBs aren't working for... they're disasters! The player doesn't have a chance
Richardson benched himself. Steichen would have lost the locker room if he didn't bench him
That’s why you don’t coach Kiper! Best play should play at every position!!
If he didn’t tap out and sub himself out of the game for “being tired” I would have a problem with benching
He needs to earn the trust of his teammates and coaches back.
I said the same thing Mel Kiper said
Peyton Manning wouldn't have survived these crazy development cycles. Sam Howell threw like 21 INT in his first full season on the Commanders...I don't even know what team he's even on right now smh.
I hate the excuses they give QBs. They get the most money, take the least amount of contact, and then after they take 1/3 of the salary everyone is asking where the help is smdh
What's baffling is why Aaron Rodgers jersey is framed
This just shows Tom Brady was right when he said Qb straight out of college should back up for the first 2 season to watch and learn and it shows
This league doesn't let the quarterback play through mistakes anymore unless the teams are winning.
Look at bo nix
He's getting better and better every week and his team is winning he's still making mistakes
A quarterback has to be good enough to where the team wins even with his mistakes.
Also the hipocrisy of all the people on the panel that only want to develop young guys, when there's guys like Russ that maybe have a chance to take their team on a deep playoff run, but we were going to write them off because there happens to be a younger player that people want to develop (even if they've been backup quality throughout their career)
This is why there will NEVER be another Tom Brady or even Payton manning. Nobody is developed and nobody will be. Nobody wants to WORK either. Mahomes himself is even from a “older” era which is wild to say.
If your mentality is "destroyed" for getting benched when you're the worse QB on the roster, then you probably can't hack it in the NFL in the first place.
issue IS! They get forced to play the games in the league that they lacked in college!! No wonder guys that played MORE GAMES tend to do better in the league.
Teams are going to stack the box against the Ravens if they want to go where they’re trying to than they have to be able to do get it done thru the air as well.
NFL needs a G league, they keep drafting these young guys, immediately forcing them into the game, and then calling them busts after 4 games. Meanwhile this 19yr old is being the QB on a terrible team and expected to magically make them great.
My thing is “media “ knows they will criticize look how they did kenny picket”
What if the league has a developmental league like the NBA and MLB?
I don’t understand. I thought throwing young qbs to the wolves in bad offenses with no help was the problem. Wouldn’t it make sense to bench a guy his rookie year why you build the offense for him? Let him get his feet wet with the playbook? Doesn’t that make sense? Why do they have to start year one?????
I tune Dan out as much as possible because it's hard to give credibility to an ex QB that critiques QB play, and other NFL player's, when he sucked so bad at the job himself.
Who is editing these? The cuts right in the middle of conversation are atrocious
With Richardson, he benched himself I see his potential personally
It's a win now type of league.
Pretty easy to be a rookie QB when you have a schedule like the commanders....Browns, Panthers, Giants, Bengals 😂😂
It's Mahomes effect and CJ Stroud make it worse. Now team just expect to win quickly while the QB contract are cheap without even stop to think that those two I mention were an outlier not a norm.
The nfl gives every position time to develop except QB and left tackle
Cj stroud and Jayden Daniels are doing just fine lol
I wouldn't talk about Russ either.. he may be one of the only Superbowl winning QBs to still be playing but everyone knows the Legion of Boom led them to and won that Superbowl! You seen what happened the next yr when they decided to put the ball in Russ's hands!
Anthony Richardson never should have been drafted and he has the nerve to tap out of a game, please.
Should've let Johnny manziel KEEP PLAYING THROUGH HIS MISTAKES. -Mel
I wouldn't say their futures are in question yes young will probably be let go and have to prove himself somewhere else but we have seen recently that starting their career badly doesn't mean their career is over. Donald was considered a bust now he's not.
QB's are 50% always has been, 2 ways to use them play them or let them sit. Love maybe a good QB but he misses some games.
They didn’t have these high expectations on them old (yt) quarterbacks
Orlovsky talks without saying anything
The colts are going to fall into the media drama and not help that young man develop
It’s so simple GM shouldn’t listen to Mel Kelper 😂
Not every quarterback is going to be what you think he's going to be some are cut out for this some are not the league doesn't have a quarterback development problem because you can't make every quarterback a great quarterback
You can do everything that Dan and Mel Kiper said, devote years and resources to developing a QB, and the QB still has the same chance of not panning out. For a lot of teams it's more cost effective to just move off a guy early and try again than it is to go down the 4-5 year hole of developing a QB that can't be developed.
Mel Kiper Needs to Stop Talking or Slow down. Anthony Richardson Needs to Be Bench, Not for his Plays, but For Not thinking before Speaking. We the Young Generations have Lost that and need to get it back, Think Before Speaking, Cause He Is A Business and He Needs to Know that. This is Why we are having the Errors we Are Having We Want to Baby everyone and then Ask Where did it all Go Wrong, Stop 🛑. He needs to be BENCH, Fresh Start Next Season.
The 4 ft qb and the guy who played like 6 games in college struggle in the nfl who would’ve thought 😂
Anthony Richardson played - what’s Mel talking about?
Hopefully Bryce & AR can play better
Baltimore will win the AFC North
Sometimes the quarterback is just not good enough and it’s not the coaches fault nor is it due to expectations or the modern culture of football. Some guys just are busts 🤷 I feel like we’ve lost the ability to call a spade a spade
Billionaire owners are more trigger happy in firing GMs and coaches and buying out their contracts
That is the story in why they refuse to developed young QBs
Steelers winning the North
No way with that schedule
Stop drafting qbs that only throw to wide open receivers in college so high 😂
This are grown men if they not playing good make them take a sit. It's just that simple
QB evaluation is not good.
They drafted a stud that played 12 games total in college. Potential, sure on paper. Dude is a guy, from a qb perspective YET, maybe.. bad use of a draft pick and clearly he is not good. Let him sit until he can do the easy stuff. My guess he won’t be in the league 2 years from now.
Hold d Henry till the end of the season 😂😂