Why Hockey Hates Trevor Zegras

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  • Опубликовано: 21 дек 2023
  • 99 JERSEY: 99jersey.com
    Zegras has had one of the most eventful starts to a career you could have, and its not for what you might think. Despite scoring some of the prettiest goals we’ve seen, he's now known for his bratty attitude and pesky playing style.
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  • @HecticHockey
    @HecticHockey  6 месяцев назад +7

    What are your thoughts on Z?

    • @steelpenpirate
      @steelpenpirate 6 месяцев назад +8

      Take away the fancy goals, and he don't add a lot of value. He is not a core piece to build around.

    • @jeremyheninger8766
      @jeremyheninger8766 6 месяцев назад +5

      @@steelpenpirate Tell us more how you know little to nothing about hockey. He's 22 dude, he has the talent to become a very good player in the NHL. There is nothing to suggest otherwise.

    • @FLGirly
      @FLGirly 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@jeremyheninger8766 I understand if someone said that about a player on my team I would be upset too. Clearly with your comments on here, you seem to take this very personally. He’s right though. If he wants to be better then he needs to start playing as a team and stop worrying about fancy goals. He is talented nonetheless but he needs to utilize his talent with and for his team

    • @Hikayuhuy
      @Hikayuhuy 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@FLGirly Man you don't know a single thing you're talking about. He's literally being praised by the writers and his coaches for his defensive effort and more well rounded plays, while transitioning to wings this year before he gets hurt. If you think he could have done this earlier, you're even more ignorant because the Ducks were under Dallas Eakins. So please, reserve your opinion before you're informed.

    • @FLGirly
      @FLGirly 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@Hikayuhuy ok buddy 😂

  • @kevinso187
    @kevinso187 6 месяцев назад +63

    It’s his responsibility to prove he can be productive in the league. Proving the critics wrong is part of being in the pros

  • @Calabrese7755
    @Calabrese7755 6 месяцев назад +95

    Being able to get under the skin of SO many players without actually doing anything wrong or shady sounds like true talent to me. Hockey is not just a physical game, it’s a game of OPPORTUNITY and mental strength. He takes advantage of every opportunity someone gives him with a wide open net to pull a Michigan. I’d blame defenders and goalies for being so crappy that they allow this to happen. How come no one ever hated Datskyuk for doing this same shit?

    • @bartholomewesperanza3442
      @bartholomewesperanza3442 5 месяцев назад +2

      Zegras has amazing skill but you can’t compare him to Datsyuk at this point. Datsyuk was more than just an extremely talented and creative puck handler, he was also an amazing 2 way player and leader.

    • @LindenAnderson-zj5ds
      @LindenAnderson-zj5ds 5 месяцев назад +7

      Do not EVER compare Datsyuk and zegras.

    • @richardperegud
      @richardperegud 4 месяца назад

      Because zegras plays scared he is a wimp..the opponent has adjusted this year what,? 20 games and 6pts for a" Superstar" he is not a tough skilled player..I wish the Ducks would trade him for a bucket of pucks

    • @Chickenpesto2468
      @Chickenpesto2468 4 месяца назад +2

      @@bartholomewesperanza3442didn’t he win that award for best forward defensively twice I forget what it’s called. Anyways yes datsyuk was one of the greatest players overall.

    • @s.b.3275
      @s.b.3275 2 месяца назад

      ​​@@Chickenpesto2468forgot the name of that reward? Damn a bunch of fucking idiots in this comment section. Then you shouldn't comment, keep your head in the sand kid. Datsyuk is a legend and doesn't need a fucking bandwagon cock sucker lickin' is ass!

  • @malinuhhh47
    @malinuhhh47 6 месяцев назад +45

    Zegras will eventually figure out how often he should be attempting the lacrosse type moves to make him a more effective and dynamic player. His vision and shot are elite and with time he can prove that he is not overrated but most people are accurate in their assertion that he's got a lot of maturing to do in terms of his two way play and on-ice conduct.

    • @matthewkabel6246
      @matthewkabel6246 5 месяцев назад +2

      His two way play has taken a massive step under Cronin

    • @malinuhhh47
      @malinuhhh47 5 месяцев назад +1

      @matthewkabel6246 yes the Ducks collectively seem to be developing better habits in recent weeks. I give Cronin credit and Zegras too of course but I don't think people should take for granted the luxury of having a player like McTavish who can play all the "tough minutes" so to speak

    • @matthewkabel6246
      @matthewkabel6246 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@malinuhhh47 I understand your point completely and think that McTavish has the profile of a future star two way center but the reality is his line has been getting hemmed in A LOT the last few games.
      He’s had some missed assignments and blown coverage on rushes against recently. His defensive play overall this isn’t commensurate with the perception that most have of him as this stout 200 ft player.
      Zegras has constantly gotten bagged on for “piss poor defense” which really only rang true last year (even his rookie year his defensive impact was about average) but again he was on a historically bad team under Eakins where everyone’s defensive numbers were in the gutter.
      This year he’s been very responsible on both sides of the puck but seems to be held to a different standard than McTavish which feels unfair. Sorry for the tangent, wasn’t directed at you, just the prevailing sentiment going around regarding these two players. Both have elite skills in different areas and will be integral pieces of Anaheim’s rebuild nonetheless

    • @malinuhhh47
      @malinuhhh47 5 месяцев назад +1

      @matthewkabel6246 No need to apologize, I really appreciate your insight and every fan who is paying more close attention. I am a Sharks fan but that doesn't affect my level of appreciation for the execution of the Ducks' rebuilding process. They are in a tough situation trying to decide what role Gibson plays in the rebuild but that contract aside many parts of their youth have the type of ceiling that you hope to have in franchise building blocks and though I don't know him particularly well I like much of what I've seen from Cronin in terms of his communication style and composure on the bench, that type of demeanor is helpful for managing the floor of young players. I hope the group continues to push in the right direction and finds themselves back in contention soon because the league is in better shape when the California trip is a nightmare for visiting teams 👍

    • @matthewkabel6246
      @matthewkabel6246 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@malinuhhh47 Cronin definitely has the team bought in for sure, and though there are still stinkers every now and again (like vs Edmonton last night) the product on the ice most of the season has been night and day better than the last few seasons. Many more 50/50 pucks being won, protecting the slot/netfront areas a lot more, etc.
      Just super unfortunate Z and Drysdale missed so much time (100% because they played too soon after each missing camp as a result of their prolonged contract negotiations), and right when they return, Leo goes down. McTavish has also missed about 7-8 games and Terry just went down to injury against Arizona. Hard to develop any cohesion when the young studs have been in and out of the lineup the entire year and must be especially frustrating for Cronin.
      Completely agree with your last sentence, league was so much better when road teams dreaded the California trips. I think the Sharks are building a solid nucleus of young talent, Smith Eklund and Bordeleau are all sick. And a real chance for you guys to add another stud this draft!

  • @user-iy6wr4kk3m
    @user-iy6wr4kk3m 6 месяцев назад +22

    NHL fans gotta realize u need guys like this that are good in the media it brings fans and publicity to the league

    • @austriangroyper9308
      @austriangroyper9308 5 месяцев назад +2

      No. I'd rather less people watch hockey, and keep the integrity of the game.

    • @Sagnasty17
      @Sagnasty17 5 месяцев назад

      Hes cringey in the media

    • @moappleseider1699
      @moappleseider1699 5 месяцев назад

      No, we don't want that trash and whining in the league. He can go play soccer or basketball where being a whiny little wusscake is encouraged.

    • @richardperegud
      @richardperegud 4 месяца назад

      The goal is to Win Hockey games and the Stanley Cup

  • @lilpyrate8257
    @lilpyrate8257 6 месяцев назад +23

    Kings fan here. So besides the obvious reason why I don’t like him I remember he tried to do a needlessly fancy move which failed because of one of our defense guys. He got pissy and tried to start something with them. Then when it came time to drop the gloves he ran behind his teammates…. It’s things like that that make me not like players.

  • @CanadianBongRipper
    @CanadianBongRipper 6 месяцев назад +28

    I think most of the hate comes from the taunting on the ice but doesn't get into scrums he created.

  • @dylanjohnson505
    @dylanjohnson505 6 месяцев назад +21

    I am a ducks fan so bias is involved
    This is such an interesting time for this video. Z played like 10 games this year before being sidelined with some sort of nagging injury. He hasn’t really been talked about recently because he isn’t playing!
    When he did play, he was coming off the contract “dispute”/negotiations and missed training camp and preseason. That mixed with his apparent injury and most ducks fans noticed during those 10 games that Z looked a bit off.
    Another interesting factor is the change in coach. Dallas Eakins was a players coach with little structure and didn’t seem to have much of a leash on guys. Gregg Cronin has come in and has simplified the ducks game to (for lack of better words) a more Meat and Potatoes style. I feel this is why we are seeing guys like Mason McTavish and Frank Vatrano do well, and a guy like Troy Terry struggle a bit.
    Zegras looks to be coming back (perhaps for just before Christmas break). Hopefully he can slightly modify his game to be less “flashy” and more rounded and can continue to develop his reputation around the league and its fanbase.
    Ps. Sidney Crosby was once viewed similarly as Zegras- as blasphemous as that is, perhaps Z and alter his perception like Crosby generally has.

    • @punisher5598
      @punisher5598 6 месяцев назад

      New fan of hockey here, why would you want to take away some of more flashy plays?
      I think it’s true in all sports you want players to be good at fundamentals, but I always thought showmanship in sports was good. Like tonight I saw a Michigan goal? I get saying you can’t do that all the time, but if he can do it, why would you take that away?

    • @dylanjohnson505
      @dylanjohnson505 6 месяцев назад

      @@punisher5598 although I mentioned to be “less flashy” , I wasn’t saying to not do it at all. As a ducks fan, I feel Zegras gets somewhat unjustly looked as just a flashy guy. I think it’s understandable as to why he gets viewed this way. As a fan of the team I watch a lot of Z. A Toronto fan possibly sees 2 games of him. So when they see only the highlights and some of the antics he pulls (outlined in the video), Z’s reputation is more then understandable. Perhaps a few highlights of Z playing a slightly more complete game and this perception changes a bit.
      Other the the Crosby comparison I made, Matthew Tkachuk is an example of a widely changed reputation. He went from a cocky agitator (with his constant between the legs attempts) to being generally a well respected star of the game. It seems like he’s matured a bit and I think it’s noticeable to how he plays now.
      In my opinion, a guy like Z and Jack Hughes are good for the game. But it’s clear one is a far better player then the other in lots of aspects and hopefully in the not so distant future it isn’t clear or far at all.

    • @punisher5598
      @punisher5598 6 месяцев назад

      @@dylanjohnson505 ahh gotcha. I’m literally brand new to all this and have the ducks as my team, partly because Zegras was fun on the highlight reel. I had no clue at the time he was a somewhat controversial player. Last night was only my 4th game of NHL hockey to watch (seen some local games but they were a feeder team), and seeing the Michigan goal was one of the coolest sports moments I’ve seen.
      For the Crosby hit, why is it considered not in good form to take a shot after the buzzer? I’m guessing it’s like don’t put the puck in the air to hurt someone defenseless if you don’t have to? Like last night down 3-2 Z had a chance to do it again with 1.1 seconds left but didn’t. I guess I’m wondering if there is a logic behind the unofficial rule or if it’s more of s “respect the game” sort of deal.

    • @dylanjohnson505
      @dylanjohnson505 6 месяцев назад

      @@punisher5598 1 thing I’ve learned watching hockey and I assume it goes for other sports: every star is controversial. There will always be a vocal minority of fans that end up seeming louder then the all the other with their “opinions”. Zegras here is kinda a case of that. He’s young and a easy target. If I had to guesstimate, it may only be 10% of fans that dislike Zegras and create this “controversy”
      As for the question about the shot after whistle, generally speaking it’s viewed as extremely disrespectful to shoot a puck at the goalie/ net after a whistle (within reason of time). That moment against Pitt was way beyond the whistle and the pens had a legit gripe in my opinion. Last night, with 1.1 secs outside the blue line is likely impossible to win a face off and get a shot towards the net. If the face off was in the Seattle zone, it’s a completely different play.

    • @dylanjohnson505
      @dylanjohnson505 6 месяцев назад

      @@punisher5598 also welcome to the ducks fan base! If their is any other questions I can answer, I’m glad to!

  • @adriankalitka3762
    @adriankalitka3762 6 месяцев назад +7

    Imagine if Torts winds up becoming coach of the Ducks with Zegras still on it. Forget being benched by Torts but he'd have him washing cars in the parking lot

  • @BoyNamedSue4
    @BoyNamedSue4 6 месяцев назад +48

    Ducks fan here. He’s one of the most naturally talented players I’ve ever seen. But his game is also raw as you would expect for a player this young.

    • @matthewkabel6246
      @matthewkabel6246 6 месяцев назад +2

      During his limited sample size this year his two way game took a massive step, and that was despite playing injured as a result of missing camp. The production wasn't there, but he was great at extending possessions and winning pucks along the wall, once he combines these nuances with production again he'll be a force

    • @sk00muh
      @sk00muh 6 месяцев назад +3

      “Naturally Talented” why? Because he got 2 or 3 Michigan goals and then fell off?

    • @BoyNamedSue4
      @BoyNamedSue4 6 месяцев назад +5

      @@sk00muh if you think he is just one or two trick shots you haven’t been paying attention.

    • @mor9n243
      @mor9n243 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@sk00muh he beat team Canada dude

    • @moappleseider1699
      @moappleseider1699 5 месяцев назад

      @@mor9n243 Not hard to do when most of "team Canada" isn't at the tournament. We just saw this happen again this last tourney.

  • @anythinggoes5574
    @anythinggoes5574 6 месяцев назад +10

    The reason Torts says he's bad for the game (which I tend to agree with) is because his play is going to have young guys trying to do all these unnecessary fancy moves and prioritizing how they look rather than putting the puck in the net. The lost goals from failed attempts when the only goal of a player and team should be to win will really affect the competitive dynamic of the game. That goal where Zegras flipped the puck over the net for the bat in is a perfect example; he could've made a simple pass to the wide-open Sonny Milano for a simple tap in, yet he took huge risk for nothing.

    • @matthewkabel6246
      @matthewkabel6246 6 месяцев назад +3

      This is a very confusing comment. Zegras isn’t a hot dogger that does these fancy moves without a purpose, he does them because they’re more often than not the high percentage play, and he’s able to execute. He has an elite understanding in real time of the space and options available to him, so he’s able to improvise on the fly in creative/unconventional ways. But they lead to goals/high quality chances, he picks his spots and never forces the issue.

    • @savannahdiaz3584
      @savannahdiaz3584 3 месяца назад +1

      i see where ur coming from but isn’t hockey all about entertainment too, his risky plays definitely get people watching, i feel like if he unsuccessfully did all these plays and was causing a potential threat to the team id understand but if he knows he has the ability to score as well as entertain the people, then why not🤷‍♀️

    • @matthewkabel6246
      @matthewkabel6246 3 месяца назад

      @@savannahdiaz3584 nailed it

  • @craigharrison5406
    @craigharrison5406 6 месяцев назад +13

    It's because he gets a lot of media attention for flashy goals as though he's a premier goal scorer. The problem is he averages around 20 goals a season not 40.

    • @Mr_Ashley
      @Mr_Ashley 6 месяцев назад

      Quality over quantity 😂

    • @garrettjones9549
      @garrettjones9549 4 месяца назад

      averaging around 20 goals before youve even played 200 games is actually really impressive for a young player

    • @craigharrison5406
      @craigharrison5406 4 месяца назад

      I'm not saying it's not good for a player at his age but it doesn't warrant the amount of attention he gets.@@garrettjones9549

    • @s.b.3275
      @s.b.3275 4 месяца назад

      Yea and Pavel Datsyuk scored 30 goals 3 times and was mostly a 20 goal scorer and didn't score 30 until he was 25 and went on to win 3 selkes while being underrated for so long. Zegras is 23, already has had two 23 goal seasons, 2 60+ point seasons and people think he's done developing 😂 cracks me up all the hate. This kid is going to dominate NHL offensively and his puck protection skills are off the charts, can't imagine him not becoming a solid 2 way player.

    • @craigharrison5406
      @craigharrison5406 4 месяца назад

      You comparing him to Datsyuk cracks me up. Let me know when he dominates the NHL, I'll be here waiting@@s.b.3275

  • @gianniaurilio8163
    @gianniaurilio8163 6 месяцев назад +4

    I hate him from when he messed with Marchand and Frederic called him out for it so Zegras got scared and skated behind the ref quietly

    • @adamaebig4376
      @adamaebig4376 4 месяца назад +1

      as a ducks fan ive noticed that our whole fanbase agrees that he is a soft player who has zero physical presence both in scrums and and checking. He is in the nhl for his playmaking vision mostly.

  • @bmohr9826
    @bmohr9826 6 месяцев назад +26

    Players are given the job to entertain and he does exactly that. Love em or hate em you can’t deny he brings people in just to watch him play

    • @mrp2561
      @mrp2561 6 месяцев назад +1

      Boooo! The players are paid to play and win, if I want entertainment I'll watch figure skating.

  • @acemoneymaker8242
    @acemoneymaker8242 6 месяцев назад +197

    i dont like the guy cuz he has got to be the most overrated player in the league cuz of his fancy moves

    • @marcleandre8863
      @marcleandre8863 6 месяцев назад +3

      Me too

    • @elliottbrincefield3118
      @elliottbrincefield3118 6 месяцев назад +30

      (This is just a friendly argument) I would like to disagree, just because someone is "overrated" doesnt mean its his fault

    • @acemoneymaker8242
      @acemoneymaker8242 6 месяцев назад +5

      @elliottbrincefield3118 true. He's just got this ego to him and idk if rubs me the wrong way

    • @WristFreeze97
      @WristFreeze97 6 месяцев назад +3

      I would argue that Svechnikov is even more overrated

    • @tonybleau6219
      @tonybleau6219 6 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@WristFreeze97Not really. Svech isn't reaching his potential but it's Zegras making NHL covers and making cringy media appearances.

  • @bluesfan314
    @bluesfan314 6 месяцев назад +50

    It doesn’t matter how great of a person or player you are you’ll always get hate bc that’s the world we live in. No matter how many people love you there’ll be more people that hate you.

    • @kugashira1018
      @kugashira1018 6 месяцев назад +2

      LMAO at your lazy ''Hate us cuz they ain't us'' take.

    • @CheeseGrater69
      @CheeseGrater69 6 месяцев назад

      Not true lmao I haven't met a single person that hates fleury, but most people hate binnington

  • @heathclark318
    @heathclark318 6 месяцев назад +57

    Huge fan, loved his pre game interview before that Canada Gold Medal game. Dude just told it like it was and then went and played a helluva game. He is going to be a star player averaging a point per game in a season or two. He was on the same trajectory as Jack Hughes before he blew up. Trevor unfortunately got hurt this season and hasnt had that chance. I still believe he will be a top 6 player and PP star
    edit: Zegras getting under peoples skin is a bonus. Got people playing emotional seems like Marchand built a pretty good career being a Sh*t Disturber. Admittedly Zegras will need to add a bit of sandpaper before a lot of weak minded fans see him in a different light. These are the same kinds of fans that think the Tkachuks are sh*t players. The amount of hate one can garner from supposedly polite Canadians blows me away. Still cant get over the quote by a Montreal News writer about last years Stanley Cup. Some thing to the affect that no Canadian gives a damn about a Stanley Cup being played in South Biblestan. Hate is hate but it also means you have a tinge of greatness.

    • @owenposer6720
      @owenposer6720 6 месяцев назад +4

      He’s like a 3rd liner this year, he isn’t even playing defence

    • @heathclark318
      @heathclark318 6 месяцев назад +6

      @owenposer6720 he's played 12 games lol

    • @brinbone2384
      @brinbone2384 6 месяцев назад +1

      He’s not gonna do shit on Anaheim and will never put up more than 80 points

    • @OnPoint88
      @OnPoint88 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@heathclark318 12 games is enough to play defence no?

    • @matthewkabel6246
      @matthewkabel6246 6 месяцев назад +4

      @@owenposer6720 he was Anaheim's best defensive forward this year by a wide margin, what on earth are you even saying?

  • @marshie1337
    @marshie1337 6 месяцев назад +19

    Hes got God given talent and he's young. He'll mature in all aspects hopefully and then maybe the hate will end

    • @SmasherDark
      @SmasherDark 6 месяцев назад

      Media never stops the hate, well at least a good portion of it never stops.

    • @mor9n243
      @mor9n243 6 месяцев назад

      @@SmasherDark media is Canadian and mad cuz he beat team Canada

  • @AnaheimRob
    @AnaheimRob 29 дней назад +1

    If those traditional "fans" and commentators had Zegras on their team it wouldn't be long before they loved him.

  • @adamhenry5791
    @adamhenry5791 6 месяцев назад +7

    The ducks don’t have any Veterans left in the line up really. I think there’s no one to keep these younger players in line thus we get a team of individuals playing TikTok hockey… that’s my opinion but I’m old and think everything is stupid these days lol. If you’re old you know if you’re not you’ll get it in 20 years…🍻 Boys

    • @mtndew0859
      @mtndew0859 6 месяцев назад +2

      No veterans? Adam Henrique, silfverberg, carrick just to name a few. They have a mix of both veterans and young players not sure what you’re on about

    • @Hikayuhuy
      @Hikayuhuy 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@mtndew0859 talking out of his ahh, like the old heads this video talk about.

  • @MukKevin
    @MukKevin 6 месяцев назад +2

    We need to do a better job as fans and use the word "over marketed" instead of overrated in some cases

    • @MukKevin
      @MukKevin 6 месяцев назад

      Good vid boss

  • @Hockeyreview101
    @Hockeyreview101 6 месяцев назад +2

    Zegras is just your average top 3 foward in the nhl gonna be about a 40-60 point player his career nothing to scough at but also let’s not act like he’s a superstar

  • @FlexSZN23
    @FlexSZN23 3 месяца назад +2

    He has that Disney Chanel Bully energy

  • @Marcus28
    @Marcus28 5 месяцев назад +1

    23 seconds in and this guy asks if we are enjoying the video so far

  • @lazites
    @lazites 6 месяцев назад +5

    Ducks fan checking in. While his stats looked like a drop off this year before the injury, most of us were just happy to see that he was playing more defensively, and was a more rounded player.

  • @narcoloopsie999
    @narcoloopsie999 5 месяцев назад +2

    He’ll be humbled eventually and grow up. We’ve seen this with tons of other players before him.

  • @adammckenzie6074
    @adammckenzie6074 3 месяца назад +1

    I grew up with friends that played pro in sweden that would skate circles around a lot of these draft picks these days. Just growing up in toronto the market is so saturated many great players go unnoticed

  • @sakalaathletics
    @sakalaathletics 6 месяцев назад +1

    I don't like that he was the cover player for NHL 23 instead of Kucherov or Mackinnon, but he is obviously infinitely more marketable to the younger audience. I am fine with the flash, and I think his game will evolve. He is a skilled young player.

  • @whitedragon1337
    @whitedragon1337 6 месяцев назад +1

    I stumbled on this video earlier today.....several hours later Zegras scores another Michigan....and Bedard scores one as well, same night! 😱

  • @garrettjones9549
    @garrettjones9549 4 месяца назад +1

    Hes got the 9th most points on an entry level deal in the last 10 years. He has a very high ceiling of potential but its a question of if he makes it there. I would say hes more over-hated than he is overrated.

  • @dadamager3000
    @dadamager3000 6 месяцев назад +2

    As they say, winners talk and losers walk

  • @yasuofenix
    @yasuofenix 6 месяцев назад +10

    Thank you for posting the video. As someone who has seen him play in person a few times he always came off as one of those kids who talked a lot of shit but when you got in his face he runs for teacher. I hope he grows out of that and becomes a leader for his team while continuing to grow his game. I'm not sure he's ushering a new era of hockey as you say at the end of the video.

    • @mrp2561
      @mrp2561 6 месяцев назад +1

      I agree 👍

    • @jediko610
      @jediko610 6 месяцев назад +1

      He’s proved can be that leader on the USA World Junior team. If he can bring that same energy that he had on that team he’ll be fine

    • @jediko610
      @jediko610 6 месяцев назад

      **the 2021 Gold Medal team

  • @patton303
    @patton303 5 месяцев назад +1

    More importantly than any personality issues,
    he really struggles with the two way game. He can skate through everybody on offense but if a Nate MacKinnon or a Jack Eichel is carrying the puck towards him, he’s a confused muffin. If he can clean up his defensive skills, he’ll be fine.

  • @BobbyT.
    @BobbyT. 5 месяцев назад +1

    I think part of why he is so hated is because he was everywhere for a while the NHL really latched onto marketing him as a super star when he hasn’t been on that level. He has obviously shown that he is very good but not on the same level as the top dogs in the league, but the NHL has almost given him red carpet treatment like a McDavid, Matthews, or Crosby and I think that’s where a lot of the hate has come from. People don’t want to have a single nhl player shoved in their faces at every moment. Even Bedard who’s already seems to be in that generational status has gotten some hate because of how frequently he has been seen marketed by the NHL.

  • @mikeb.7845
    @mikeb.7845 6 месяцев назад

    Good channel my man. Keep on keepin'! cheers.

  • @boystainey
    @boystainey 3 месяца назад +3

    Being a ducks fan I like having him. But, he reminds me of all these TikTok trick shot players. Gen Z hockey fad.

  • @fultzy5696
    @fultzy5696 6 месяцев назад +1

    I dont hate zegras. I just hate how much love he gets for being an only skill player. He doesnt do anything unless its on the powerplay or he has 10 yards of space to make a play happen

    • @matthewkabel6246
      @matthewkabel6246 6 месяцев назад

      Not true whatsoever, his defensive game took a massive step this year and he won many 50/50 pucks along the wall

  • @christophercharles3169
    @christophercharles3169 6 месяцев назад +4

    2 points in 12 games so far this year?

    • @matthewkabel6246
      @matthewkabel6246 6 месяцев назад

      He was playing hurt, generating a ton of chances, and was by far Anaheim's best defensive forward

  • @patientmental875
    @patientmental875 6 месяцев назад +2

    When attitude doesnt match skill

    • @mrp2561
      @mrp2561 6 месяцев назад

      Yes!!

  • @Burnzie8818
    @Burnzie8818 6 месяцев назад +1

    he hit another michigan, so perfect timing on this vid

  • @zeefoxx1
    @zeefoxx1 6 месяцев назад +1

    Funny reading comments seeing middle aged men comment on a young star. He’ll grow into his own shell.

  • @Bagguts
    @Bagguts 6 месяцев назад +2

    torts knew the kind of player he was already when he was talking about the michigan goals.

    • @FamilyGuyRoks6
      @FamilyGuyRoks6 6 месяцев назад +4

      yeah, a selfish punk with no accountability

  • @marvinschwartz9159
    @marvinschwartz9159 6 месяцев назад +3

    He‘s entertaining, but he doesn‘t win games. Easy as that. I take 3 goals and good defense over 2 between-the-legs goals and shitty defense.

    • @JackBirdbath
      @JackBirdbath 6 месяцев назад +1

      Between the legs goals are the most overrated fancy goals

  • @jamesskinner4752
    @jamesskinner4752 5 месяцев назад +1

    It’s so good for the game and it figures Torts would say it wasn’t because he’s been guilty of doing things actually not good for the game.

  • @perryjacobs4093
    @perryjacobs4093 6 месяцев назад +1

    As he matures he has incredible potential. It is up to him, I mean Gretzky kind of potential..!

  • @imulippo5245
    @imulippo5245 6 месяцев назад +1

    If you can't defend, you have to be exceptionally good in offense, and Zegras certainly is. But Zegras is not good enough to even tie shoelaces of Datsyuk, that NHL stated.

  • @marcusraindrop6696
    @marcusraindrop6696 3 месяца назад +1

    I like zegras, I think it’s cool with some change in the nhl. I also don’t know why people hate him so much, let the guy be

  • @1Ksyusha11
    @1Ksyusha11 6 месяцев назад +2

    Hockey’s biggest Diva basically

    • @mrp2561
      @mrp2561 6 месяцев назад +1

      You nailed it bud! Hahaha 🤣

  • @itsnotcolby
    @itsnotcolby 6 месяцев назад +1

    would love to see more of his game come around, ik hes young but dude is such a raw talent but if he doesnt keep improving other aspects and only plays off his raw skill and moves then he will never be a great player just a flashy player.

    • @matthewkabel6246
      @matthewkabel6246 6 месяцев назад

      In his 12 games while playing hurt this year, his defense was actually phenomenal. He's adding substance to his game

  • @mor9n243
    @mor9n243 6 месяцев назад +1

    I believe there's several NHL legends whom had a bumpy first 4 or 5 seasons Scott Niedermayer I think too needed a bit of seasoning to become the legend he was

  • @mhedden033
    @mhedden033 6 месяцев назад +1

    I'm a ducks fan, most of his value comes from his puck carrying skills and playmaking. But most of his highlights are goals, which is a smaller part of his contirubution. I donnt think he will be as big a star as MacT or Leo but he will be an important contributor to their success.

  • @raphaelleduc939
    @raphaelleduc939 6 месяцев назад +1

    I got no problem with Zegras, he's really talented he just needs to be able to be consistent in his game. As for his antics, let's not pretend some other young players haven't done the same things as him, throwing tantrums or talking shit from behind the refs or in the boxbut didn't get the spotlight because they were scoring highlight goals on other times.

  • @nonyabiz2777
    @nonyabiz2777 6 месяцев назад +1

    Bottom line he brings more people to hockey and that’s a good thing. His age shows in his actions but he will grow up and when he does he will be a productive player. Seems now a days people forget how fun it was to be young and have fun.

  • @BBouks
    @BBouks 6 месяцев назад +5

    He just oozes "my dad's a lawyer vibes..."

  • @goated5749
    @goated5749 5 месяцев назад +1

    To me i find him annoying because he got put on the cover of nhl his rookie season which i thought he wasnt even 2nd in calder voting

  • @knighttimestorieslv
    @knighttimestorieslv 6 месяцев назад +1

    "He's just a kid enjoying his time in the NHL." And people just can't stand that, can they? 😂 Because overall hockey fans (sports fans in general) are the most emotionally sensitive people on the planet. Okay maybe baseball umpires are worse, but fans are right up there 😂 I love the kid & love watching him.

  • @Rushyyz3
    @Rushyyz3 6 месяцев назад +1

    So basically Z you’re not allowed to have fun anymore now that you’re in the NHL! But it’s okay to slam a player from behind head first into the boards causing serious injuries! Got it!

  • @itaintobeezy
    @itaintobeezy 5 месяцев назад

    9:22 yea he’s really “carving his own path” with 2 goals 5 points all season😂 how creative. Cmon dude

    • @stefthorman8548
      @stefthorman8548 4 месяца назад

      when you're the center of attention, that's what happens

  • @keir13
    @keir13 6 месяцев назад +2

    He’s obviously got great hands and a lot of skill but he still has a long way to go to prove himself as a high end NHL player. That being said, I didn’t realize people (outside of guys like Torts or Don Cherry) didn’t like him. The NHL desperately needs more big personalities but it seems like guys like Zegras or Subban (or anyone who offers anything than the same old boring hockey platitudes) get a lot of hate.

    • @moappleseider1699
      @moappleseider1699 5 месяцев назад

      He whines.

    • @keir13
      @keir13 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@moappleseider1699 so do my kids but I still like ‘em.

    • @moappleseider1699
      @moappleseider1699 5 месяцев назад

      @@keir13 If your kids are his age I wouldn't be too proud of that.

    • @keir13
      @keir13 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@moappleseider1699 my kids are teenagers and teenagers whine. Whether you’d like to admit it or not, I’m sure you’ve whined at some point in your life too. It’s just a fact. People have different personalities and we all mature at different rates. It’s one of the many wonders of life. But at the end of the day, Zegras has a fun personality, a good sense of humour and a ton of skill. Whining, to me, isn’t his issue. Back checking, on the other hand… that would get under my skin. But whining isn’t a big deal. Crosby still whines at 36 years old but he’s having a career year and is still one of the best players in the world.

  • @tomatojoe
    @tomatojoe 6 месяцев назад +4

    before his injury this season, this 2 way game was much better than the prior seasons.

  • @RichardArpin
    @RichardArpin 6 месяцев назад

    Casual Hockey Fan here; saw a video a few days ago about how the NHL has a hitting problem because guys don't know how to take/receive hits anymore. In the corner or in the open ice. Anyone got comment on Trouba (NYR) defending Zegras? I don't watch enough hockey to know either's game well.

  • @_JamesBrown
    @_JamesBrown 6 месяцев назад +1

    Milano's stick was above the crossbar

  • @rubberduckie5518
    @rubberduckie5518 6 месяцев назад +1

    Seems like that guy you really like at first, but then slowly start to realize issues with attitude or accountability.

  • @oinkwoof8378
    @oinkwoof8378 6 месяцев назад

    Sid was a whiny pompous kid at one point as well. It is just youth, this guy has spirit.

  • @joshuawoo1630
    @joshuawoo1630 6 месяцев назад

    No matter how good you are if you're going to talk you better be ready to back up your words

  • @TechTokOffical
    @TechTokOffical 6 месяцев назад +1

    So some kid who has not proven himself in the league comes in and acts like he invented the game, and u don't understand why older people amd veterans hate him? I don't even know who he is but if he's fresh to the league and putting off the personality you described, it is a personality of one I wouldn't like

  • @57Jimmy
    @57Jimmy 6 месяцев назад

    Corralling the puck like a lacrosse move as a pass is fine and impressive but using that same method to score should not be allowed. They don’t allow kicking it in like soccer, throwing it in like a quarterback throwing the touchdown pass, so the same should be like scoring as in lacrosse.

  • @whysoserious8666
    @whysoserious8666 6 месяцев назад +1

    Nobody could get under Crosby’s skin like Henrick Zetterberg!

  • @iamwonderFil
    @iamwonderFil 6 месяцев назад

    he would be LOVED in montreal.
    then hated when he went cool.
    but then loved again!

  • @oliverquach9614
    @oliverquach9614 6 месяцев назад

    As a Leafs fan, Nazem Kadri was criticized for many of the same reasons as Zegras. He will probably mature with time.

  • @michaels7134
    @michaels7134 6 месяцев назад +1

    Torts is right, Michigan goals (why are they called that? They were never used at Michigan) just like basketball, you have to dribble the ball, hockey should require stick handling....go play lacrosse if you want to do that.

  • @dirtyknucklegarage4085
    @dirtyknucklegarage4085 6 месяцев назад

    The boo’s are just as important as the cheers, hope he gets on a better team or the ducks become a better coached team.

  • @weezyskater
    @weezyskater 6 месяцев назад

    What pissed me off about him is he got pushed so hard but it was unearned, even went to the all star game when not selected or voted in.

  • @smallbuj7605
    @smallbuj7605 18 дней назад

    I love Zegras and loved Subban so much, so I might not be the most objective lol Subban pissed off Crosby too haha
    To this day I'm sad Subban was traded and I'd love to have Zegras on my Habs team.

  • @brokensystembrokentrust
    @brokensystembrokentrust 6 месяцев назад

    Perfect way to sum that up.
    FOR THE RECORD..... Crosby is kind of a cry baby too.

  • @MoeLester4444
    @MoeLester4444 5 месяцев назад

    He's insanely good and i can see that he liked Kane. Its not easy to do something someone else has NEVER DONE BEFORE.

  • @Leroy-df3ee
    @Leroy-df3ee 6 месяцев назад +2

    He got Troy Terry's ass kicked, I'll give the punk that.

    • @adamhenry5791
      @adamhenry5791 6 месяцев назад

      Terry’s eyeball still drooping

  • @zanto7804
    @zanto7804 5 месяцев назад

    Great player and its so much fun to watch him and i think thats the most important thing

  • @TheokritusElend
    @TheokritusElend 6 месяцев назад

    Torts is a fucking dinosaur, love that this kid is having fun.

  • @Legostopmotionandfun
    @Legostopmotionandfun 6 месяцев назад +1

    Players are supposed to entertain, Zegras does just that.

    • @mrp2561
      @mrp2561 6 месяцев назад

      Wrong! Ur a gamer right? Figure skating is for entertainment.

  • @timothymozzi2391
    @timothymozzi2391 6 месяцев назад

    He reminds me a lot of a young Odell Beckham, extremely flashy, and they both start beef with their opponents

  • @beehockey136
    @beehockey136 6 месяцев назад +2

    I hate him bc he gets praised and called original when he’s doing moves datsyuk did yearssssss ago

  • @PunkerWithABoner
    @PunkerWithABoner 6 месяцев назад +5

    I love Little Z and he's good for the sport. It sucks his hurt and struggled this year, but he'll be back.
    Hey homie, would you make a video about my insufferable Devils and how trash we are ? Thanks, happy holidays big guy !

  • @tyraelhermosa
    @tyraelhermosa 6 месяцев назад

    I hate to be a petty ass at this point, but it annoys me that more people don't see this. At 5:43 he's got something sticky on the blade for this trick... not quite as impressive as it originally looks. You can tell because around 5:45, his stick comes to a stop mid-air, and gravity would normally pull the puck off the stick at that point since there's no centrifugal force from the circular stick movement countering it at that point. Yet it just stacks stuck on the blade like magic.
    Anyway, it's not important: he's a great player. Hope he recovers and gets back out there soon.

  • @JackyTheBatty
    @JackyTheBatty 6 месяцев назад +4

    I love him as a player. I also like the Ducks more because he's on that team.

  • @Mattyboy2085
    @Mattyboy2085 6 месяцев назад

    Torts and Zegras deciding what's good and bad for the game with 1 Stanley Chp between the two.

  • @user-we2yt5on9b
    @user-we2yt5on9b 6 месяцев назад +1

    Peewee mentality wearing an NHL jersey.

  • @Simone-uu8ne
    @Simone-uu8ne 6 месяцев назад +2

    I've always enjoyed watching him play since you never know what could happen in the game. The new generation of players is, by default, less physical, but I don't necessarily see it as a big issue. He's still young and will grow with the proper coaching staff.

  • @Azgoon69
    @Azgoon69 6 месяцев назад +1

    Funny how you talk about fans calling Zegras is a whiny bitch and also claim Crosby is one of the most well respected player in the history of the game, like if the fans didn't hate Crosby for the exact same reasons early in his career, I'm not worried one bit about Trevor Zegras he'll be an amazing player and people will focus on his success in the future

    • @mrp2561
      @mrp2561 6 месяцев назад

      Right! Until he gets destroyed by a real hockey player!

    • @Azgoon69
      @Azgoon69 6 месяцев назад

      @@mrp2561 A real hockey player like a Ross Johnston or a Liam O'Brien ? Yeah sorry I'll enjoy watching the fake hockey players with skills instead

  • @TheCowboyNHL
    @TheCowboyNHL 6 месяцев назад

    Honestly, the only reason he gets so much hype is for the 1 highlight reel goal he gets every now and then.

  • @jawswasnevermyscene4258
    @jawswasnevermyscene4258 6 месяцев назад

    Happy holidays

  • @FLGirly
    @FLGirly 6 месяцев назад +5

    I was ok with him until the whole Stecher controversy happened. Obviously he said something pretty messed up to him, which is not cool. You don’t bring family into it. This video basically sums up what player he is. Opinions aside, he’s still young and has a lot to learn. He just strikes me as a kid that cares about showing off and not really playing as a team. It’s kind of crazy to see him at only two points as of right now. Flashy is cool but does it win you the cup? Then I will be impressed

    • @Hikayuhuy
      @Hikayuhuy 6 месяцев назад +1

      Literally no one ever said it was family beside twitter cancer and people who already hate Zegras. They even went out of their way to confirm it wasn't that, but sure let's pretend like eveyone knows who Stecher is let alone that his father died sometime before.

    • @mrp2561
      @mrp2561 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@Hikayuhuyhow do you know? What's your source? Twitter?

    • @Hikayuhuy
      @Hikayuhuy 6 месяцев назад

      @@mrp2561 from public interviews? This video even quickly mentioned the rumored was quickly squashed. Sorry I know y’all loved the fake news that confirmed your bias.

  • @guba33327
    @guba33327 6 месяцев назад

    The chirping that's the way of the game now, think everyone would do it if they knew they would never have to stand up to the talk. The torts thing I remember when everyone cried about Sid doing the Michigan think it was Don Cherry who was saying the same thing about Sid's goal so it's just the progression of the game it's going to happen. And some are not going to like it, I don't think it's anything on Zegres think torts is just so Xs and Os he doesn't like the idea of change in the game.

  • @MisterCaution
    @MisterCaution 6 месяцев назад

    No position. Being buried on a Pacific Time Zone club, I’ve barely seen him play. But weird that a 20g scorer gets so much hate and attention.

  • @brinbone2384
    @brinbone2384 6 месяцев назад +1

    Bruh it’s not because of flashy plays that’s the only reason people kinda like him. He’s soft and probably puts more time in doing tik tok dances than getting better defensively. Hockey is physically the toughest sport in the world besides mma or boxing. His personality more fits a pro Fortnite player

    • @chevelle1
      @chevelle1 6 месяцев назад

      🎯

    • @chevelle1
      @chevelle1 6 месяцев назад

      Young fans don’t understand this, though. As soon as you bring up hockey, being tough and so forth, they just call you old-school and out of touch

  • @BrandoTolerrari2277
    @BrandoTolerrari2277 Месяц назад

    its always the College guys that have this diddy in them

  • @MelbourneLTC
    @MelbourneLTC 6 месяцев назад

    Well if he ever wants to come to a team where he’ll be loved by the fans and hated by everyone else in the NHL, he should come on down to Vegas. He’d fit right in here 😂

  • @user-zj9ov9lo3d
    @user-zj9ov9lo3d 6 месяцев назад

    bro i haven’t heard about this guy in a fat minute

  • @DarC_25
    @DarC_25 6 месяцев назад

    13k views idk how ur take on zegras inspiring a generation without a cup or even an amazing season is beyond a reach he is good but to say people watch just for him is nuts he wont even be in the playoffs

  • @AC-ri2ph
    @AC-ri2ph 6 месяцев назад +1

    This is who yall claim mitch marner is