@@JamesBurden-d4uUnder the older 4 round judging criteria Yates would have an edge , but with the way they judge shows now (most muscular as a compulsory, no individually judged symmetry and posing rnds, obsession with big striated gluteal muscles etc) even this version of Coleman probably wins.
@@doublem1975x symmetry rd is judged too, its just not a separate round or column on the scoresheet. Overdeveloped glutes should be marked down. Considering it didnt dominate( by most accounts it wasnt a blowout win) an average Cutler...what are the odds of beating a prime Dorian?
Front Double: King, Front Lat: Yates, Side Chest: King, Side Tri: Yates, Xmas Tree: Yates (IN MY OPINION), Ronnie would've had it in earlier years. Back Lat: King, Back Double: King, Ab and Thigh; Yates, Most Muscular: King. King wins no doubt but Dorian in 1993 changed the game. Ronnie in 2005 was on the way out. Still, he beats Yates' best and the "Dorian Ites need to learn to make peace with it. I'm sorry but this was obvious. Keep the comparisons coming. I want to see 1992 Lou vs. 2002 Gunter
back lat spread is NEVER ronnies you dorks need to stop accpeting that. There is a reason why Cutler, Cormier, Levrone, Dennis James, Palumbo, Aceto all said that dorians RLS is better. esp next to this 05 version with a soft back and visibly asymmetrical lats? lol not a chance for the colemaniacs also most muscular wasnt mandatory in 93 also what about the relaxed poses? cause those are judged also ? no way is ronnie taking the symmetry rd with that distension and asymmetrical lats and badly balanced lower body. its obvious to ignorants to the cognoscenti Yates wins
Dorian fans are the most delusional in the bodybuilding community. Dorian was good, but he was nowhere near Ronnie. Even Dorian's best body part (back) is dwarfed by the great King Coleman. Dorian's arms, legs, chest are like classic physique level compared to Ronnie.
I wonder if there is much footage of 1992 Mr America or USA's of Ronnie Coleman. I think that's the year Ronnie got his pro card. He was a lot smaller then might make an interesting comparison to classic physique
I always thought it was his famous 1991 magazine cover that makes people think he looked classic as hell. I think that he would rival Cbum with his midsection of that time plus all the separation on top
Dorian legs were pretty huge and the side discrepancy was this massive between them. Dorian just posed them like the 80s guys, there's a few pics when he didn't and they were massive
Yates legs looked underwhelming from a front perspective mostly because his vastus lateralis insertion point was poor. Coleman’s is literally bulging out from the hip.
@@doublem1975x no, he kept his legs straight, there's a front lat spread black and white picture of him with knees pointing outwards, his sweep and legs overall FROM THE FRONT looked great
@@dj_m19 Nah, I understand basic human anatomy and I know what I’m looking at. Sure him standing straight with his legs together didn’t help but the genetic disadvantage is rather obvious. The only front leg shot that he looked good in in those transitionary poses when he turned his calf out and showed his bulging vastus medialis and sartorius.
2005 Ronnie was good enough to win his 8th Olympia, but definitely was the beginning of the end for him. He had that old man muscle that started to melt & lose his muscle shape.
Ronnie Coleman from the back is a freaking monster indeed.. and I think if u are in person with them, that RC size and conditioning are so overwhelming.. but good comparison.. Dorian is a legend too
How does the 05 version of ronnie against 93 dorian, but 99 ronnie considered his best version lose against 93 dorian on your channel sone years ago, maybe you should do a updated video
Oh,Gawd😂 at the 96 German grand prix, Dorian put a beat down on Ronnie. Ronnie had just started to get big, but Dorian was at his best condition ever at that 96 Grand prix he was shredded on a another level, even more than Ronnie which is unbelievable! he just didn't have the mass yet. Don't believe me? Go look it up it's on RUclips....
The thing is here, Dorian is very complete in 1993 and Ronnie is all but melting here. Dorian has the edge in symmetry and condition here and Ronnie from the back is nowhere near as good as he was in past years. We’re comparing these two versions, and this Dorian is better than this Ronnie no matter your opinion of either guy. Ronnie is missing half a lat here and can’t open up, this is not his best showing.
I had yates winning the rear lat spread since coleman’s right lat was flaring further than his left also regarding the luisin popa guy his channel got deleted cuz if it wasn’t I’m pretty sure he would’ve wrote an entire book on this video but his right hand man dj is probably gonna take his place
@@JamesBurden-d4u yeah you pretty much had many olympias on there especially the footages for the 1999 from a different angle i’ve never seen that one before but yeah welcome back on boat ig
I love Dorian, but Ronnie was taller and 30 pounds heavier. Yates is a bit drier, but Coleman is more complete. Dorian was lucky it took Ronnie so long to have that talk with Flex Wheeler about gear.
Ronnie wasnt taller at all. He was 280 and Yates 257. 23 lb and Yates was noticeably drier and denser looking. More complete? he had overdeveloped glutes and quads that dwarf his hams in the side poses( chad said this on some podcast) and NO calves. His lats were also already very asymmetrical in 2004 and after. Being complete means jack shit if you get outconditioned and dont hit the mandatatories textbook the fact is that quite a few that went to that 05 Olympia said it was close. If this Ronnie version couldnt dominate a soso Jay no way he beats prime Dorian. I mean Jay himself said at his best he wouldnt beat Dorian...
Side Triceps, Abs and Thigh, Front Lat Spread - Yates. Front Double Biceps, Side Chest, Most Muscular, Back Double Biceps - Coleman. Rear Lat Spread Debatable - Dorian on slightly on width, but Ronnie's traps and hams/glutes are gigantic. Presentation/granite hard conditioning - Yates. Freak Factor Coleman. I'd say the overall winner is Coleman as he just outmuscles the Dorian, but Dorian looks great also. There can be only one King - Eight Times for a reason.
@@indomex4914 Dorian takes the BLS hands down. Beats ronnie in conditioning and his cuts are way deeper!! Dorian wins relaxed poses 3-1 and Dorian also wins posing round hands down. Dorian is the GOAT
@@stannjob Sorry have to disagree. There is a reason Ronnie has 8 titles. Dorian with his torn biceps looked terrible in later years. I agree his conditioning was great, but Ronnie's legs dwarf Dorians. Dorian was great, but there can be only be one king. Yeah buddy!
@@indomex4914 lol im actually laughing. You dont judge by muscles, you judge by the whole pose and muscles that are being flexed. So dorian calves dwarf and ridiculize ronnies, so what? And the reason ronnie has 8 titles is because he robbed at least one and the competition was not prime bodybuilders LMFAO.
@@bjf5027 lol what was that? Its funny how dorians worst version beats the shit of ronnie worst version too lol Nobody beats dorians 93 black and white pictures.
This shouldn’t be up for debate, Ronnie didn’t got his nickname by mistake, anyone could have gotten that nickname, Dorian, Haney, Arnold, but the king nickname can only be given to best in business and for now, Ronnie is
@flakka1685 Last year. And because of his injuries. Ronnie had a small gut in 98,99,00. After that, his gut was huge . Dorian was 20-25 pounds smaller. But he had better condition. And he had no reason to come heavier In black and yellow pictures, he was huge
what is this cope? Ronnie didn't get his nickname by mistake therefore we shouldn't compare him to anyone ever, no version of his? Just to let you know that he was losing in the prejudging in 2001 to Cutler, someone like Dorian would've spanked him same goes for '00 and '02 when Levrone wasn't good enough to take the Sandow while Coleman was at his worst Coleman is exactly 0 wins and 9 losses against Yates. Let that sink in
just shows you how good ronnie was in his prime because this is Dorians best year vs Ronnie's last title win when he was 42 years old and he's still beating him!
@@thiagoromero6816 Ronnie was maybe 20 pounds heavier max. But he was bloated with way worse condition. He was asymmetrical. The black and white pictures will win every year
@@NikosNikos-dr7wv Exageras mucho jajaja lo único que no estaba tan condicionado en Ronnie era la espalda. En casi todo lo demás está más rayado coleman.
@@NikosNikos-dr7wv your either biased or drunk if you think this is an easy win for dorian! even a 42year old on the decline ronnie years past his best here is holding his own if not winning against a peak prime dorian, let alone a prime ronnie like 1999! and were not on about Dorians black and white photoshoot pictures are we were on about the comparison above! photo shoot picture are not on stage anyone can look good in the gym especially a photo shoot! so you cant even bring them up or compare
People say RC front lat spread because he never learned to hit the pose correctly. It's not that. His upper traps are disproportionally large so he can't spread his scapula.
Dorianites don't feel too bad. Ronnie Coleman was the evolution of Dorian Yates. Ronnie was stronger and lifted heavier than Dorian and had newer and better supplements.
"Ronnie was stronger and lifted heavier than Dorian" with form reminiscent of cave men picking things up and throwing them around all momentum zero control
@NikosNikos-dr7wv lol dorian doesn't even have much glutes and basically no hamstrings so his conditioning wasn't exactly amazing...ronnie blows him out the water...easy for Mr olympia ×8
@billyboy2455 Oversized glutes? Dorian had way better condition than Ronnie. Sure Ronnie was 20 pounds heavier, but that was his gut,not muscle. And Ronnie was asymmetrical. Dorian no needed to come bloated like Ronnie. Black and white photos of Dorian he could win any Ronnie
@@billyboy2455 4:15 4:55 no hamstrings? 8:10 Dorian keeps his knees forward, Coleman in 2005 is already doing what guys are doing nowadays, spreading 2 rooms apart like a frog. It's simply different posing + Coleman had overdeveloped glutes with stick calves which clearly hurt his symmetry and proportions (pure logic). If you think having overdeveloped glutes and no calves whatsoever then you need to look at the anatomy chart, it's like having no bicep, no tricep and huge forearms.
If Dorian would have have been in Ronnies 'condition' he would have been around 270 instead of 257. Ronnie does not have that grainy look because he does not emphasize the negative part of the rep.
you're joking right? front lat spread? side tricep? abs and thighs? all easy wins for Yates throw in the christmas tree and both of the rear poses that could go either way even at Coleman's best, let alone this melting, atrophied lat version of Coleman 7:05 what is this? Flex Wheeler's back lat spread with shredded glutes and hams? 7:55 look at the back, Coleman is melting and soft. His skin is thick while Dorian looks made out of stone. Look at the differencce between Coleman's lower and upper body, his glutes and hams look Sahara desert dry, his back and delts look oily and soft.
Then why did he never beat him? Dorian would've won 10 Mr. Olympia if he came back healthy and didn't retire Ronnie Coleman never wins and Mr. Olympia is Dorian doesn't get hurt and retire. Kevin Laroi said that Wheeler has said that that Ronnie would've never beaten Dorian go look up the interviews where they asked what would've happened. Dorian didn't retire stayed healthy. He would've beaten Ronnie every single timeso I don't know why you guys people call this guy Coleman why because he call himself that he never beat Dorian Dorian would've crushed him every year. He already did. He's nine and zero versus him.
@@BruceWayne-ri4wrDorian could not win another Olympia. In his own words he said by 1997 his body was done. Lots of injurys and he could not train as he used to.
It ain't no debate. Several guys who competed against both of them say Ronnie was far better. Levrone, Flex and Milos have all said it. King Ron is the GOAT and it's not close.
and yet Coleman is 0-9 against Yates and yet Levrone said on RX muscle interview that Yates would've beaten Coleman in 1998 (a far better version than 2005 Coleman) had Dorian competed.
@@NikosNikos-dr7wv on the Cutler cast Milos and flex said it separately. Flex during his interview with Jay and Milos has said it multiple times. Kevin has also said it in his interview with generation iron. Their opinions matter more than any of us since they competed against both Dorian and Ronnie and they all say Ronnie wins.
@@dj_m19 and Haney beat Yates. So I guess Haney is better than both of them? Lol. Obviously Yates would beat a sub-max Ronnie. But the best version of Ronnie beats the best version of Dorian. Funny you missed this but Levrone actually said that in the same interview.
I always told 2005 is the best version of Ronnie imo. And ‘05 Ronnie beats the very best Dorian here. Crazy. By the way thx for taking my request Marx 👍🏼👍🏼
05 Coleman is underrated.
@@doublem1975x yes but he losing this
@@doublem1975x underrated? Ronnie os one of the most overrated bb of all time
@@JamesBurden-d4uUnder the older 4 round judging criteria Yates would have an edge , but with the way they judge shows now (most muscular as a compulsory, no individually judged symmetry and posing rnds, obsession with big striated gluteal muscles etc) even this version of Coleman probably wins.
@@doublem1975x symmetry rd is judged too, its just not a separate round or column on the scoresheet. Overdeveloped glutes should be marked down. Considering it didnt dominate( by most accounts it wasnt a blowout win) an average Cutler...what are the odds of beating a prime Dorian?
Front Double: King, Front Lat: Yates, Side Chest: King, Side Tri: Yates, Xmas Tree: Yates (IN MY OPINION), Ronnie would've had it in earlier years. Back Lat: King, Back Double: King, Ab and Thigh; Yates, Most Muscular: King. King wins no doubt but Dorian in 1993 changed the game. Ronnie in 2005 was on the way out. Still, he beats Yates' best and the "Dorian Ites need to learn to make peace with it. I'm sorry but this was obvious. Keep the comparisons coming. I want to see 1992 Lou vs. 2002 Gunter
back lat spread is NEVER ronnies you dorks need to stop accpeting that. There is a reason why Cutler, Cormier, Levrone, Dennis James, Palumbo, Aceto all said that dorians RLS is better.
esp next to this 05 version with a soft back and visibly asymmetrical lats? lol not a chance for the colemaniacs
also most muscular wasnt mandatory in 93
also what about the relaxed poses? cause those are judged also ? no way is ronnie taking the symmetry rd with that distension and asymmetrical lats and badly balanced lower body.
its obvious to ignorants to the cognoscenti Yates wins
Dorian fans are the most delusional in the bodybuilding community. Dorian was good, but he was nowhere near Ronnie. Even Dorian's best body part (back) is dwarfed by the great King Coleman. Dorian's arms, legs, chest are like classic physique level compared to Ronnie.
@@bjf5027 this is what happens when you believe in atrocious scaling...Dorian back was always bigger than Ronnie's, even jay said it
I wonder if there is much footage of 1992 Mr America or USA's of Ronnie Coleman. I think that's the year Ronnie got his pro card. He was a lot smaller then might make an interesting comparison to classic physique
Great idea!
I always thought it was his famous 1991 magazine cover that makes people think he looked classic as hell. I think that he would rival Cbum with his midsection of that time plus all the separation on top
Dorian legs were pretty huge and the side discrepancy was this massive between them. Dorian just posed them like the 80s guys, there's a few pics when he didn't and they were massive
Si pero las piernas de Ronnie siguen siendo más grandes y con más condición.
Yates legs looked underwhelming from a front perspective mostly because his vastus lateralis insertion point was poor. Coleman’s is literally bulging out from the hip.
@@doublem1975x no, he kept his legs straight, there's a front lat spread black and white picture of him with knees pointing outwards, his sweep and legs overall FROM THE FRONT looked great
@@dj_m19 Nah, I understand basic human anatomy and I know what I’m looking at. Sure him standing straight with his legs together didn’t help but the genetic disadvantage is rather obvious. The only front leg shot that he looked good in in those transitionary poses when he turned his calf out and showed his bulging vastus medialis and sartorius.
@@doublem1975x google "dorian yates front lat spread"
front row 3rd picture.
The Yates side tricep is simply unmatched. From the calves and meaty tricep and his chest looks perfect.
Dorian masterize all the mandatory's, if ronnie learn to properly pose, it would be just more unfair to all the others competitors
Dorian's triceps were never meaty, Phil Heath's or Nick Walker's, or Hunter Labrada's are meaty.
Here here
It’s a really good shot. IMO there are actually a lot of bodybuilders who look better, though.
@@potasiodelbueno710to be fair the only pose he wouldve taken that wasnt already dominated by him would be the front lat spread
This channel just keeps getting better man, these comparisons are absolute gold
Personally arguing who’s the best between these two is like arguing Brady or Jordan. Dorian changed the sport, Ronnie brought it to a new level
@@jordanhickey9785 a new level of gut???
Dorian is the lat king
What about the Dolomites?
2005 Ronnie was good enough to win his 8th Olympia, but definitely was the beginning of the end for him. He had that old man muscle that started to melt & lose his muscle shape.
Ronnie Coleman from the back is a freaking monster indeed.. and I think if u are in person with them, that RC size and conditioning are so overwhelming.. but good comparison.. Dorian is a legend too
How does the 05 version of ronnie against 93 dorian, but 99 ronnie considered his best version lose against 93 dorian on your channel sone years ago, maybe you should do a updated video
I wanna see if im here before Lusianpopa. I already saw DJ here mins after this posted.
back from yo mommas
again
and yeah its me
@@ImYourHuckleberry_29 both of you are here;)
@@JamesBurden-d4u y be profane?
@@incidentus7626 🤣😂
@@incidentus7626 he is now Jimmy Burden. Everything else is the same
Hi,
Please make a video on Ronnie Coleman 2005 vs 2006
Coleman's ab's look funny.
@@bobsguitarstudio715 he had a vagina in the gut lol
Anyone that thinks Ron is winning this has no idea about bb'ing.
Claro Claro vos sos el único que tiene razón. Fangirl de aca a la china.
Oh,Gawd😂 at the 96 German grand prix, Dorian put a beat down on Ronnie. Ronnie had just started to get big, but Dorian was at his best condition ever at that 96 Grand prix he was shredded on a another level, even more than Ronnie which is unbelievable! he just didn't have the mass yet. Don't believe me? Go look it up it's on RUclips....
The thing is here, Dorian is very complete in 1993 and Ronnie is all but melting here. Dorian has the edge in symmetry and condition here and Ronnie from the back is nowhere near as good as he was in past years. We’re comparing these two versions, and this Dorian is better than this Ronnie no matter your opinion of either guy. Ronnie is missing half a lat here and can’t open up, this is not his best showing.
That might be Ronnie’s best ab and thighs
I had yates winning the rear lat spread since coleman’s right lat was flaring further than his left also regarding the luisin popa guy his channel got deleted cuz if it wasn’t I’m pretty sure he would’ve wrote an entire book on this video but his right hand man dj is probably gonna take his place
yes that channel got deleted because i uploaded copyrighted stuff but im back
and yeah Yates wins this
@@JamesBurden-d4u yeah you pretty much had many olympias on there especially the footages for the 1999 from a different angle i’ve never seen that one before but yeah welcome back on boat ig
NEXT MATCH-UP, Shawn Ray vs Keon Pearson!
The King 👑
Dorian win of cause!!
You're joking right?
He wins 1 pose 😂😂
Monsters level 💎👑
I like that Dorian didn’t go nuts with the fake tan.
Just a touch of tan and oil up looks better on white dudes.
Ronald has no arms and Dorian’s Lats are nonexistent. Interesting comparison 🤔
Ronnie Colema all day long. You choose Ronnie on the the end of his reine. And dorian in the prime of his reine. Take Ronnie 1999 or 2003.
I love Dorian, but Ronnie was taller and 30 pounds heavier. Yates is a bit drier, but Coleman is more complete. Dorian was lucky it took Ronnie so long to have that talk with Flex Wheeler about gear.
Yates had way better condition.
Ronnie was 20 pounds heavier but not muscles.
Dorian no needed to come bloated like Ronnie.
Ronnie wasnt taller at all. He was 280 and Yates 257. 23 lb and Yates was noticeably drier and denser looking.
More complete? he had overdeveloped glutes and quads that dwarf his hams in the side poses( chad said this on some podcast) and NO calves.
His lats were also already very asymmetrical in 2004 and after.
Being complete means jack shit if you get outconditioned and dont hit the mandatatories textbook
the fact is that quite a few that went to that 05 Olympia said it was close. If this Ronnie version couldnt dominate a soso Jay no way he beats prime Dorian. I mean Jay himself said at his best he wouldnt beat Dorian...
Ronnie wasn't taller and 30 pounds heavier but not as conditioned, not even close (2005 version)
I didn’t know there was anyone who thought Dorian was ever better than Ronnie.
Side Triceps, Abs and Thigh, Front Lat Spread - Yates. Front Double Biceps, Side Chest, Most Muscular, Back Double Biceps - Coleman. Rear Lat Spread Debatable - Dorian on slightly on width, but Ronnie's traps and hams/glutes are gigantic. Presentation/granite hard conditioning - Yates. Freak Factor Coleman. I'd say the overall winner is Coleman as he just outmuscles the Dorian, but Dorian looks great also. There can be only one King - Eight Times for a reason.
I thought Dorian was taking that side chest, but otherwise agree.
I think they hit the side chest different back then. Great comments though 👍
@@indomex4914 Dorian takes the BLS hands down. Beats ronnie in conditioning and his cuts are way deeper!! Dorian wins relaxed poses 3-1 and Dorian also wins posing round hands down. Dorian is the GOAT
@@stannjob Sorry have to disagree. There is a reason Ronnie has 8 titles. Dorian with his torn biceps looked terrible in later years. I agree his conditioning was great, but Ronnie's legs dwarf Dorians. Dorian was great, but there can be only be one king. Yeah buddy!
@@indomex4914 lol im actually laughing. You dont judge by muscles, you judge by the whole pose and muscles that are being flexed. So dorian calves dwarf and ridiculize ronnies, so what? And the reason ronnie has 8 titles is because he robbed at least one and the competition was not prime bodybuilders LMFAO.
Its funny that even photoshoot Dorian loses to stage Ronnie.
@@bjf5027 lol what was that? Its funny how dorians worst version beats the shit of ronnie worst version too lol
Nobody beats dorians 93 black and white pictures.
That side chest comparison isn't fair. King Coleman best in the business.
Dorian yates side triceps shot is such a well known shot. He looks damn good there. But the rest is all Ronnie. He is the king.
Dorian will tell you himself Ronnie is the goat. End of discussion.
@@PW-zs2yx give me the link
Ronnie was bloated with bad condition
Are you drunk?
Dorian is so conditioned, granite and made of stone that he makes ronnie look like a marshmallow
Easy win for Dorian, and in 95 he was bigger and same or better conditioned. Dorian is the real GOAT
It's not even close. Dorian destroys him.
😂😂😂😂 Wishful thinking
You're joking right?
@@James-pf8lo facts!!!
This shouldn’t be up for debate, Ronnie didn’t got his nickname by mistake, anyone could have gotten that nickname, Dorian, Haney, Arnold, but the king nickname can only be given to best in business and for now, Ronnie is
Respect❤
Dorian was better.
He didn't need to come bloated like Ronnie
@@NikosNikos-dr7wv well, Dorian did came bloated 😅
@flakka1685
Last year.
And because of his injuries.
Ronnie had a small gut in 98,99,00.
After that, his gut was huge .
Dorian was 20-25 pounds smaller.
But he had better condition.
And he had no reason to come heavier
In black and yellow pictures, he was huge
what is this cope? Ronnie didn't get his nickname by mistake therefore we shouldn't compare him to anyone ever, no version of his?
Just to let you know that he was losing in the prejudging in 2001 to Cutler, someone like Dorian would've spanked him
same goes for '00 and '02 when Levrone wasn't good enough to take the Sandow while Coleman was at his worst
Coleman is exactly 0 wins and 9 losses against Yates.
Let that sink in
just shows you how good ronnie was in his prime because this is Dorians best year vs Ronnie's last title win when he was 42 years old and he's still beating him!
I don't think so
Easy win for Dorian
@@NikosNikos-dr7wv explica cómo.
@@thiagoromero6816
Ronnie was maybe 20 pounds heavier max.
But he was bloated with way worse condition.
He was asymmetrical.
The black and white pictures will win every year
@@NikosNikos-dr7wv Exageras mucho jajaja lo único que no estaba tan condicionado en Ronnie era la espalda. En casi todo lo demás está más rayado coleman.
@@NikosNikos-dr7wv your either biased or drunk if you think this is an easy win for dorian! even a 42year old on the decline ronnie years past his best here is holding his own if not winning against a peak prime dorian, let alone a prime ronnie like 1999! and were not on about Dorians black and white photoshoot pictures are we were on about the comparison above! photo shoot picture are not on stage anyone can look good in the gym especially a photo shoot! so you cant even bring them up or compare
Bro can you please make Ronnie Coleman 2005 vs Jay cutler 2010 their last Olympia winning physiques?
“Things of that Naycha” 2:17
Ringadingdingkingking!
Y frame vs X frame. Y frame is superior aesthetic
Ronnie has amazing arms but why do his triceps suck so bad. They just flatten out on those side tricep poses
It's just the muscle shape and insertions. The three heads of his triceps are all huge and well defined.
People say RC front lat spread because he never learned to hit the pose correctly. It's not that. His upper traps are disproportionally large so he can't spread his scapula.
Dorianites don't feel too bad. Ronnie Coleman was the evolution of Dorian Yates. Ronnie was stronger and lifted heavier than Dorian and had newer and better supplements.
Ronnienite.
Dorian had way way better condition.
Ronnie was bloated with asymmetrical back and legs.
Maybe he was 20 pounds bigger, but not muscles.
"Ronnie was stronger and lifted heavier than Dorian"
with form reminiscent of cave men picking things up and throwing them around
all momentum zero control
@@NikosNikos-dr7wvin every reply defending your daddy Dorian wahwahwah😢
@@kai_0631
And you're defending your daddy Ronnie
@@NikosNikos-dr7wvyou Dorianites are a delusional folk
This is one video where I feel the pictures themselves are not in the same category, Ronnie has MASSive unfair advantage with that.
dorian 1993 vs ronnie 1998
Ronnie's left quad is torn.
Dorian win.
So Dorian Shouldn't win a single show after he tore his biceps?
@@HolyCole 97 IS for Ray, flawless.
Dorian's left quad was torn too, an his legs are half the size of Ronnie's.
I rather have Dorian aesthetic build than the bloated Coleman.
Dorian Yates lats are not the same size but it could the angle???
I’ll take Samir’s back over both of these.
Day 79 of asking for goodvito vs lee haney
There can only be 1 KING
I can't believe it shot for shot Big Ron wins😮
Yates unbeatable. The best back and condition ever unbeatable.
@@manduheavyvazquez5268 best front lat spread of all time also
It's not even close ronnie kills him.....dorians doesn't even have any hamstrings to talk about and that is considered his best year
Easy for Dorian.
Ronnie was bloated with average condition
@NikosNikos-dr7wv lol dorian doesn't even have much glutes and basically no hamstrings so his conditioning wasn't exactly amazing...ronnie blows him out the water...easy for Mr olympia ×8
@billyboy2455
Oversized glutes?
Dorian had way better condition than Ronnie.
Sure Ronnie was 20 pounds heavier, but that was his gut,not muscle.
And Ronnie was asymmetrical.
Dorian no needed to come bloated like Ronnie.
Black and white photos of Dorian he could win any Ronnie
@@billyboy2455 4:15
4:55 no hamstrings?
8:10 Dorian keeps his knees forward, Coleman in 2005 is already doing what guys are doing nowadays, spreading 2 rooms apart like a frog. It's simply different posing + Coleman had overdeveloped glutes with stick calves which clearly hurt his symmetry and proportions (pure logic).
If you think having overdeveloped glutes and no calves whatsoever then you need to look at the anatomy chart, it's like having no bicep, no tricep and huge forearms.
@NikosNikos-dr7wv and dorian is symmetrical 😅🤣😂
Dorian has better muscle separation and condition in rear lat spread.
This cld easily go either way, depending on how they looked in person.
ronnie's glutes inserted so low that there was hardly any space left for his hamstring to exist.
If Dorian would have have been in Ronnies 'condition' he would have been around 270 instead of 257. Ronnie does not have that grainy look because he does not emphasize the negative part of the rep.
This is Ron all day everyday, Christmas tree was Dorian but not much else
Easy for Dorian.
He had way better condition,midsection and symmetry.
Ronnie was bloated
you're joking right? front lat spread? side tricep? abs and thighs? all easy wins for Yates
throw in the christmas tree and both of the rear poses that could go either way even at Coleman's best, let alone this melting, atrophied lat version of Coleman
7:05 what is this? Flex Wheeler's back lat spread with shredded glutes and hams?
7:55 look at the back, Coleman is melting and soft. His skin is thick while Dorian looks made out of stone.
Look at the differencce between Coleman's lower and upper body, his glutes and hams look Sahara desert dry, his back and delts look oily and soft.
Then why did he never beat him? Dorian would've won 10 Mr. Olympia if he came back healthy and didn't retire Ronnie Coleman never wins and Mr. Olympia is Dorian doesn't get hurt and retire. Kevin Laroi said that Wheeler has said that that Ronnie would've never beaten Dorian go look up the interviews where they asked what would've happened. Dorian didn't retire stayed healthy. He would've beaten Ronnie every single timeso I don't know why you guys people call this guy Coleman why because he call himself that he never beat Dorian Dorian would've crushed him every year. He already did. He's nine and zero versus him.
@@BruceWayne-ri4wrDorian could not win another Olympia. In his own words he said by 1997 his body was done. Lots of injurys and he could not train as he used to.
@@nichokituku4799 he could've competed, but not train the way he wanted.
It ain't no debate. Several guys who competed against both of them say Ronnie was far better. Levrone, Flex and Milos have all said it. King Ron is the GOAT and it's not close.
Evidence?
Dorian had way better condition and symmetry
Ronnie had a huge gut.
Dorian no needed to come bigger.
Ronnie was only 20 pounds bigger
and yet Coleman is 0-9 against Yates
and yet Levrone said on RX muscle interview that Yates would've beaten Coleman in 1998 (a far better version than 2005 Coleman) had Dorian competed.
@@NikosNikos-dr7wv on the Cutler cast Milos and flex said it separately. Flex during his interview with Jay and Milos has said it multiple times. Kevin has also said it in his interview with generation iron. Their opinions matter more than any of us since they competed against both Dorian and Ronnie and they all say Ronnie wins.
@@dj_m19 and Haney beat Yates. So I guess Haney is better than both of them? Lol. Obviously Yates would beat a sub-max Ronnie. But the best version of Ronnie beats the best version of Dorian. Funny you missed this but Levrone actually said that in the same interview.
@@bjf5027 evidence?
I always told 2005 is the
best version of Ronnie imo.
And ‘05 Ronnie beats the
very best Dorian here. Crazy.
By the way thx for taking
my request Marx 👍🏼👍🏼
Ronnie made Dorian look like a men’s classic competitor.
Ronnie is the 🐐for a reason, this wasn't remotely close
Easy for Dorian