Kevin Nash on WHY AEW runs houses they can't fill
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- Опубликовано: 7 июл 2024
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00:00 WHY run a big house you can’t fill?
02:21 Big matches of House shows 
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I like Kevin's Max Headroom impression.
Oh man.. that’s funny
"You don't book MSG for your kid's birthday party" is the perfect analogy, lmfao.
Tony Khan's dad probably has
The cuts in this video are brought to you by Kevin Dunn
Keep your finger on the switch, Dunn!
THE editing in these videos make it unwatchable.
Yeah the editing makes it horrible I'd rather have dead air.
This was a great clip, i love when Mr. Nash agrees with folks he's previously not liked so much. 😎👌🏻
I have to listen at 1.75x almost every video that Involves these two...
There are so many legendary small arenas they could be packing that would look kick ass and they keep pulling this bullcrap
except, does the WWE have a type of anti-competitor agreement in place with those? They certainly have established exclusivity deals in the past. People want to forget that exists.
@@Parlimant_Strifey I doubt they do with small arenas, just big iconic ones like MSG. Some buildings are owned by colleges or municipalities that I doubt would agree to exclusivity.
Can`t sell 3000 tickets in Portland but pay everybody in their roster high six figures. What a clown show🥱
They can't get more than 3000 even with likely "giveaway type of promotions like two for one tickets". Unless they're *WAY OVERCHARGING* for tickets?
@@tomvu1470 Everything that I know the company can generate revenue but can't generate profit which are two different things. Think the NWA prior to sell to Turner, the company could sell tickets but they still lost money because they paid the talent too much.
Problem is 2,600 people still want to see the show, so what smaller venue do you go to to fill just 2,600 people? It’s not like cities are full of Goldilocks “this is just right!” arenas to choose from. 80% packed isn’t ideal but the way people FUD AEW you’d think they are only filling up 20% of the available space.
@@mikeg2491
They literally do fill like only 20% of the arena constantly. They CONSTANTLY book arenas with 16-20K+ and sell 3K, it's silly 😂😂
Sir that is offensive to clowns and gives them a bad name.
AEW is more like a Drag Queen reading to children. 😊🙃
My girlfriend's cousin works security for different events at the Moda Center and he said that there were groups of people walking around the day of the show handing out free tickets in an attempt to paper the crowd for the recent AEW show there. So they might have sold less than 2000 tickets for an arena that can hold over 19,000. He told me that it was the most empty he has seen it for any event that he has ever worked there and that's with the Blazers being total ass.
Just over 20k
I used to go to TNA and it was always free.
If you went to city walk you could get in through hard rock. We did it so often that we knew pretty much where we needed to be to get standing room only. Then we would work our way up to the front.
Tony doesnt want to be humiliated going to small arenas.. he rather make the illusion that they have filled a stadium on TV
Fake it till you maybe eventually make it one decade or two later down the line haha
Call me crazy, but I don't understand why doing smaller venues is a bad thing. I have no doubt that Tony thinks they are, but it would somehow improve the atmosphere of their shows. It would be like modern ECW.
@@_dark_170 This is true but its an ego thing. Going from filled stadiums to small arenas is a downgrade regardless of atmosphere
Right, tna did smaller venues and still had great talent with good shows.
I agree although thanks to social media,that 'illussion' no longer exists. To have a place that seats only 3000 people host that event and looked truly packed would be much better for everyone involved.
Because Tony’s ego won’t allow him to take a step back.
Who the fuck is the editor for these clips? They're skipping from one topic to the next with each cut.
i think they editing to keep them short for engagement to stay under 5min. A lot of these clips are also titled for clickbait, and have little relevancy to the topic.
@@takerdustwhy bother though. Cornette can do a 30 min clip and get 200 k views.
@@breno7950 their topics don't usually go deep for 30min. Cornette does some 8-15 min clips as well. It's all about that ad revenue.
what is with these jump cuts? if you want to edit out dead air fine but at least let them get the entire word out let alone finish their sentence
Tony finally realized this and is camping out in a 2,500 seat theater in Arlington for the next few months.
Tony's strategy is called "Fake it till you make it." He's at least been VERY proficient in one of those two things. Not so much the other.
WWE also had that problem, a couple of times. In recent years.
I saw this coming i just thought it would be sooner!
I think it's probably production needs. When you're rolling up with multiple semi-trucks full of production and need backstage infrastructure to accommodate dozens of people, a full catering set up etc., you can't just run a theater or small arena.
Plus a big stage. And if AEW comes to your town and is in a much smaller venue than WWE, it looks much smaller than WWE. Daily's Place looks good on TV, somewhere like the Manhattan Center looks good on TV, but small basic arenas would not. They probably see it as worth the cost for the production and marketing reasons.
I was at the house show where Kofi beat Rey in the tournament and it was far from sold out. Maybe 30-40% filled in a 9k-person arena with seats as low as $25. Bad economy and lower attendance industry-wide in my view.
rey needs to retire
Not even 8 months were they selling out, nor were they in the end of Punk's run. They posted some of their worst gates in his feud with Joe in fact.
I feel the issue is theyve diluted the product creating Collision. You weaken cards and double the tickets each week. Add in that the product took a direction shift from alternative to wwe lite during the middle of Punk's run and they lost some audiece there too.
I definitely feel they should run some smaller 2-3k venues, create that fomo around ticket availability. Pack it out for a great visual.
Ok Kev, this is due to the fact that aew is after the impulse buy selling shows only 30 days out unlike the competitor that sells tickets 6 months out and fills their arenas every Monday and Friday with no problem but this is TK's toy and as you see he does what he wants
Very much agree not sure how the arenas need to be book length out. I know listening to Bishoff, Prichard, and J.R. but many things such as promotional material needs to be made months in advance so possibly many areas need to be booked months out.
Kevin Nash was the king of the house shows.
The million dollar question everyone has asked for 5 years 😂
More like 100 million dollar question
Nah, they were selling out arenas just fine in the beginning. They sold out MGM Grand twice in 2019.
That was then.
@@jdmintegradp this is now
Tony does it because in his mind they are going to have a surge of popularity any day now and he wants to make sure they can accommodate all the extra fans (that are never coming).
I was watching a recent Jericho interview, and they are not really sweating arena attendance. He said wrestling companies today don't make most of their revenue from PPV's or live shows like back in the day. The money is all in the TV deals which are in the hundreds of millions of dollars.
Kevin Nash should book MSG for his bday party.
AEW Spin: Tony wants to make sure everyone has room to stretch in between commercials.
They put the belt on Nash at a house show in the WWF, did they not? I remember them making sure at least one camera was there to get the footage so they could air the finish on Raw. Think that's what happened, I'm a little fuzzy on it, but I remember seeing badly lit house show footage of Diesel beating Backlund in 8 seconds for the title.
Yes, I think it was a 6 or 8 second match at MSG in December 1994.
Why is Oliver using the term "house" when referring to arena size? House means attendance/money drawn.
The way sean talks makes my back itch
He's 3rd on my shitlist of crappy sidekick Podcasters. Brian Last and Brian Alverez are 1 and 2 by far the worst
Could be worse, could make your balls itch, and the discomfort ,like make people think that something else was going on 😅
@@damonvalentino4723Conrad is at the top of the list for me
You might want to change soap...
Title changes used to happen at live events. They need to bring that back
They’re really missing an opportunity because having a TV show with 2000 rabbid fans packed on top of each other would look sick as fuck!
If AEW came to my little house,they still couldn't fill out my house full of pathetic AEW fans
Yeah they need to run apartments not houses!
HaHa!! 😂 Lol! 🤣
They almost sold out the local Denny's bathroom, give them a chance!
@@digitalmarketinghumans my bed is bigger than that damn bathroom to be honest
@@digitalmarketinghumans They had a strong turnout in a room at the YMCA in Reading, PA the other night. 6 out of 7 seats were filled _most_ of the time. Matt Hardy did a moonsault right on the bed! It was crazy! Oh also, Chris Jericho faced off with Kenny Omega in a "jar of mayonnaise on a pole match". Jericho won, naturally.
Maybe it was booked before Sting announced retirement
Because when you come from a family of success you believe everything you do will be a success.
Look at the attendance of The Jacksonville Jaguars home games and Fulham’s Craven Cottage.
it is a business model, thus the business needs to establish that cashflow. May not be flattering, but cash flow is cash flow, no matter how it looks. You also can't get that type of stadia again, if you don't show up the first time either which requires you to establish those core relationships.
Kevin is the person to ask this question he was the lowest drawing champion of all time he would know
Also utter crap Bell to bell and made no impact on the younger audience.
@@BuddsyMalone yeah bro I hear he was a lazy worker he only comes along for the ride if there’s money there
Hartford 2023 AEW drew 5.5K, crowd was hot, but decline from that point.
WWF was running 100 seater buildings after 5 years ..... now look at them.
what is with these cuts
I think as a wrestler when you come down that ramp it has to be discouraging to see an almost empty arena, yes you’re getting paid but the adrenaline is juiced up when the place is packed and going crazy. And that’s the difference between the WWE and AEW, AEW needs to book smaller venues because they have the hardcore fans that will fill a high school gym, say what you want to say about ECW but there shows were insane because of the fans that filled the venues they were booking.
Tony doesn’t care about losing money. Daddy has an unlimited bankroll. If he had to run it like a business he would care.
I've been saying this for the longest. As soon as his daddy quits putting money into his trustfund, the AEW show is over.
If AEW wasn’t funded by Tony’s dad it would of gone bankrupt a year ago, and the fact that the AEW marks use that as a way of trying to say AEW is successful just proves how bad it is.
Portland just doesn’t have a good smaller venue
They’re running big house because Tony has so much caffeine walking is out of the question.
Oooooo hoho I see what you did there, my hat off to u sir, with a steady golf clap and a bravo
That's not caffeine that has Tony Clown so wired up!!! 😂
Could be worse, could make your balls itch, and the discomfort ,like make people think that something else was going on 😅
They are getting a new Warner contract regardless of the clickbate
Bret beat Ric Flair at house show in 92 to become champ for 1st time. It was not broadcast. It really added legitimacy to it and seemed as though Bret was given his one shot and took it. Now I know WWF did that due to specific circumstances and ideally would never do it, but I think now and again a non broadcast house show title change for any belt would add value to the overall product. Especially if its someone in need of big push, because social media would do its thing.
Perhaps just a personal Rubicon that Tony has? I'm sure it will look like he isn't truly as close to WWE as he thought he was if he ran smaller venues.
Part of me thinks some of the arenas are cheaper bc it’s off season for the sport lol
I literally cannot fit one more iota of apathy in my existence with regards to the business side of wrestling beyond whether or not the workers are treated and paid well. That being said, what if the books and venue booking for AEW don't necessarily need to make complete financial sense because the Khans are amortizing the cost of AEW across their other business ventures? That is totally a real thing that happens, especially when profit isn't your sole motive.
It’s been said that it’s difficult to do live tv, and if you do the show at a 2500 seat place, you might not have the ability to put on a decent looking show. Internet, tv hook ups, power, whatever it is.
I like the idea of cutting out the pauses or non sequitur responses but you don’t need to use jump cuts mid sentence, cut back to whoever isn’t talking as a cut away, clean up the pauses in a hidden way. Your show is great, your editors could do better
Sorry editors I know you get crapped on as a profession in general. This is coming from an editor btw ❤
Wrestling on television includes revenues..i think small crowds like tna impact have each week..aew must do what tns does.
Cause the family makes money on all its other endeavors. They can ride this out until they become relevant and or profitable.
Ain't it great the Cali-boys drive off anyone who draws? 😂🎉
The simplest answer is they booked the buildings at least 6 months in advance and tony Khan can afford the loss and has no corporate oversight
AEW has turned into WCW 2000 and it’s sad
Even WCW 2000 wasn’t as bad as this shit. 😆
Its social media influence, its populace perception. Fans will not deter from norm no matter what good product you put out there. Its the fallible nature of humanity
This guy still has a podcast? I thought it got cancelled.
It doesn’t matter Khan family worth tens of billions.
Ego
They would have been better off going to Memorial Coliseum next door to Moda (12k) instead of going to Moda, but Tony’s got to keep inflating that ego.
You know when ECW was around they didn’t have any delusion of grandeur of the size of their fan base. They didn’t try to book the NHL arena in Buffalo or the Nutter Center in Dayton or Mellon Arena in Pittsburgh just to name a few. No they went to the Bert Flickinger Center, Hara Arena and the Convention center and packed it and it looked great on TV as a result. AEW should do the same because having TV tapings in half full huge arena with cold crowds leads to rotten TV.
When the last time AEW tv did 10k ? They say ratings doesn’t matter but what about attendance there no way they are making money on these shows
What's with the weird editing in the middle?
Idea he does this cause if he went under and sole out and other wanted tix how you going to give it. Idt one can. I may be wrong. But if he goes over then maybe he can cover his ass.
Been watching wrestling for 30 years, I got my girlfriend into wrestling probably beginning last October, she already has her favorites, is heavily invested in the storylines, and is fairly educated on the history of the WWE. Recently, she was curious about AEW, and to save you all time let's just say we watched about 15 mins before turning it off. There is no good storylines, and they have no clue how to get people invested beyond their neckbeard cult, just a bunch of cosplay artists and empty chairs.
Easy answer. They go to big houses they can say they booked a show there. people won't look for how many are seated and because wwe books big stadiums
Go Blazers
He wants to keep normies under the illusion that they're equal to their competitor, which would be destroyed if they were playing the local town hall
Whomever edits these should be fired.
To be fair I'm sure they made a batch of clips with this aggressive software editing. Hopefully it'll work itself out in time
Can sell out wembley arena uk boyzz😅
Hearing anything on booking from one of the finger poke of doom guys is a joke
You weren't that good, too. 😂😂
Fake it till you make it
Because it's humiliating for Tony Khan's ego to run the houses they actually can fill, how can you sit there and pretend you're competition for the WWE when you're running bingo halls and they're running major arenas? How are you gonna draw their talent to work for you etc, it just looks like a two-bit indy promotion
Because AEW isn't a business, it's a very well funded vanity project by a money mark.
and if Tiny wants to say his toy runs big houses, then by god he's going to do it.
Can you guys stop with the weird cuts?
AW 🤦
I love how 8 months ago Phil wasn't a draw because half the arena was roped off. Now, Phil was the selling arenas, but since he left they have to rope off one side.
😂😂😂😂 aew is dying and Tony Khan is killing it slowly and it's freaking funny he is a lousy business man and he doesn't know what the hell he is doing with a wrestling company
My prediction ! AEW will end up sold to TKO/WWE in under 5 Years !!! To save face !!!
Mjf needs to go
Aew will go the same way of wcw
5 years later and AEW is still not profitable.
And of course, Kevin is always right? This is the problem with legacy pod casts. Nash says this, and it starts rolling from there.
For the love of God stop editing the videos
The biggest mistake is them having a U.S. based company. I would have based it in Canada. People who watch wrestling now are only used to the silly goofy WWE stuff. It's the crowd that likes R.Truth and Doink the clown stuff
Editor needs to be fired...so does this co-host who loves to ask questions, but can't wait to hear himself talk again.
same reason TK has 7 billion titles and a roster full of talent he never uses, hes an arrogant prick just playing with toys wanting to think hes running wrestlemania when hes running backyard wrestling
Aew can't create stars
This is a horrible cut. Whoever's cutting this. Stop.
Wrestling is dying.
Aew is just like 90s Dubya See Dubya minus the great charachters. Lame storylines vanilla presentation. You couldn't pay me to watch that shit.
Whaaaat the boring big guy has a podcast where he trashes wrestling...... Good god these old wrestlers must be stopped from clutering up RUclips **this comment is so the pod makes it to my feed and I can hit that 'don't recommend' button