A lot of people have been asking about this weird boat
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- Опубликовано: 8 июн 2024
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And this, my friends, was the last we ever heard from a certain Mr Jago Hazzard. He just knew too much.
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Don’t worry he’s safe with us in the UNDERGROUND 😀
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I tracked down the owner of this boat a few years ago and got some of the history - it's a relic of several failed grand plans, and they've not given up on it yet - their family are responsible for another notable boat on the Thames too. They seem quite willing to talk about it, happy to put you in touch!
Ask them why they don't just use it as a hella cool houseboat.
Page 2 of the accounts tells you that the company is making a decent amount of money, page 5 tells you that this money is all coming from the shareholders, so whatever it is they are doing, they are pouring a lot of money into it 🤷🏻♀.
Oh, they're not the ones that own the poor old Royal Iris are they?!
@@katrinabryce partying hard and making sure nobody notices?
Lock down party boat.
I don't know, all sounds like a bit of a ferrytale to me.
You win!
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That’s a goodun 😅
Nooooooooooooooo :D
The return mail will probably be something like, "What, we have a boat? Cool!"
It warms my heart that there are more people in the world than just me who end up researching the most random nerdy things, for fun. Maybe I'm not that weird afterall.
This sounds all very "The name's Hazzard, Jago Hazzard, licence to research"
Double oh "look, there's a train"
@@YetAnotherGeorgeth’Mind that train - what train - splat!’
Can't you just go there and battle your way on board?
I think you've got it. M.I.7 was not disbanded in the 1940s, and Mr Hazzard should keep an eye out for people carrying umbrellas.
Wearing a rose in a button hole and carrying a copy of the Times!
I live on the South side of the river, near where this vessel is moored. She was already there when I moved to my present pad some 6 years ago and looks set to become another Royal Iris (semi sunken ex Mersey ferry much closer to the Thames Barrier). This happens a lot at the bottom end of the shipping world - clapped out ships are sold to entrepreneurs who have no idea how much it costs to maintain, let alone operate, a commercial vessel. They quickly run out of money and abandon the craft at its moorings. Sadly, the same fate seems to be in store for HMS President 1918, in which I began my Royal Naval Reserve service in 1976.
Do you know if you can you just abandon a boat on the London Thames and never have to worry about it again.
Bingo. Verge of Bankruptcy; a failed experiment they received government grants for. Now just taking up valuable moorings.
Boat: Acronym relating to technical maintenance costs. Definition: Bring Out Another Thousand.
@@headforthehillsuk How does that go again? "The happiest days of a boat owner's life are the day they buy the boat, and the day the sell the boat."
Refraining from a comment about the loss of that specific RN vessel due to the name out of respect for your loss. Military comraderie over national pride and all that.
That was Jago Hazzard, last seen wandering around the Welsh Italianate village of Portmeirion, presumably trying to find the Boston Lodge works of the F&WHR. I expect he remembers his first Dime Bar too.
Just remember to keep dodging the giant, malevolent, balloon!
I'm not a number, I'm a free 60103...
Be seeing you.
Surely in that part of the world, he'd be researching the M&LRTCL and got picked up when trying to find the remains of Llaniog Station...
@@ocelotsly5521Well, I did come here because I want information. Information! INFORMATION!!
Yes, I've heard about Octo Technology - it's an experimental method of fusing Squid DNA with metallic structures, creating a boat that can not only ferry people across rivers, but then walk up the slipway to deposit the human contents at the nearest railway/bus facility.
It's still in its early days, but it definatly has legs...
Oh dear! 😂😂
That's frankly a relief. The "cryo-" part of the description lead me to fear that the vessel was being used for the storage of severed heads (under ice).
@@AlanHMartin And there are people who think Futurama is a cartoon...how little they know.
Human contents!?😮
Hmmm, what could possible be growing in a greenhouse mounted on an old ferry on the Thames that the owners want to keep quiet about? 😁
Weed like to know the answer!
Biodiversity.
@@paulsengupta971Umbrella Corp...
Monsters
Triffids?
"Gourock" = "GOO-rock". It's the posh end of Greenock. (Which is pronounced as it looks, not like Greenwich.)
I've only been on the Dunoon ferry a couple of times, but one of them might have been that one. Maybe. Funny old world, isn't it?
Yes, I thought Mr. Hazzard murdered the Scottish pronounciation worse than the Swedish. 🙂
Y'know, I didn't even clock that he was trying to say Gourock...
@@rickymherbert2899 At least he didn't have to mention Milngavie in this one, unlike another recent RUclipsr who likes trains.
That ferry was actually from McInroy's Point to Hunters Quay
Don't you mean that well known area of glasgow called mull-guy! @androo4519
Hmmm.... Jago not talking about trains? Not sure I approve. [Watches video] Okay, that was completely fascinating, and excellently witty. Thanks for branching out.
Splashing out, surely?
@@thomasm1964 its a branch line of enquiry
A train of thought perhaps...?
That’s enough about the navy lark, we need a full investigation from Buggleskelly!
Now we need Drachinifel to do a video on trains!
Its gonna be an hour long video isnt it
@@belisarius6949 At least, hopefully.
well there were atleast 2 that had marine boilers...
Also railways were very vital in moving equipment for shipyards...
His video on USS Barb had an attack on a train in it.
Interesting algorithm suggestion..... I worked on this boat (I knew it as Octoply) in the early 2000's when she was at (I think) James Watt Dock in greenock, we installed the colour changing LED lighting seen in the pictures. It was owned by a lovely and very interesting chap who I think is still the owner, we attended its "launch" party before it left, nice family and fond memories....
When permission is given to a wharf or boat mooring on the Thames, that permission cannot be taken away unless it stops being used for a period of time. There are plenty of boats and barges on the Thames that don't need to be, except to maintain the right to still be there, in case they later decide to sell it or use for some other somewhat remated purpose.
Edit: probably worth asking the PLA.
I'm sorry, who's the PLA?
Port of London Authority @@JasperKloek
@@JasperKloekpeople’s liberation army
@@cum3173 Haha
@@cum3173 Haha
So, I've lived on the estate closest to that boat on the North Woolwich side since 2005. That boat has been there since that time, and I thought it was an old tourist type vessel. I never realised it was creating the next aqua Xman.
"So"? Are you 8 years old and on TikTok?
@@fdfsdfsvsfgsg4888 Your arithmetic is off. If someone is 8 years old they can't have lived somewhere since 2005.
The boat has definitely been there since early 2005 as the video clearly shows the house I loved in between early 2005 and 2007
I always wondered about it as even then it looked like some derelict floating gin palace and it had been there for some time before that.
@@fdfsdfsvsfgsg4888 don’t ever come to Ireland, you’d die of stress…we all say “so” here
@@fdfsdfsvsfgsg4888 Let me think.... I was alive in 2005 :) Maybe you can work out my minimum age or whether I'm a time traveler. Have you never heard of the use of "so" as a discourse marker?
Curiouser and curiouser: the company's registered office is "a converted 1930s Dutch barge, moored permanently between Lambeth and Vauxhall Bridge and now used as a floating pub, live music and events."!
Sounds like a job for Scooby doo. But we all know who the Bad Guy is on this channel. Did Yerkes have any designs on boating??
Anything is possible, there is a Yerkes Crater on the moon.
I think Yerkes is the misunderstood good guy of this channel, and the true villain will turn out to be Gooch Ware Travelstead when finally unmasked by Shaggy.
Yerkes did in fact have a whole scheme involving boats. And he would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for those meddling kids.
Who knows. what we do know is brunel loved his boats just as much as he loved his trains and bridges.
to the point he made one that could eat up entire trade routes traffic.
Sir Edward Watkin was really interested in shipping and the first attempt at a Channel Tunnel.
I'm going to make an assumption that you are the first member of the public to have taken an active interest in said boat for a very long time
love the odd tom scott-ish videos! enjoy your regular fare but this a nice refresher
As a former Master Mariner I can sympathize with you Jago on trying to find the "true" owners of a vessel. Quite a murky world to venture into. Brave man Mr. Hazzard. But once again your foray into other areas of interest has shown your followers to be a very humorous bunch of commentators. Keep up the good work to generate more amusing and witty replies.
Looking at the Companies House listing for Octoply, the three (only) people still tied to the company are siblings, one of whom is a scientist.
You could possibly contact them via their company address with 'real' mail.
Ahh the good old Sound of Scarba :D I got that ferry over to Hunters Quay near Dunoon from McInroys Point near Gourock (pronounced Goo-ruk btw) the day before I got married in June 2000 lol! These Western Ferries are solid wee things, that can run in pretty much all weathers, and are crewed by a fabulous team who will even launch to carry ambulances in the middle of the night. The CalMac ferries run from direct from Gourock to Dunoon, but are useless since the old streakers were replaced, so the Westerns have always been my first choice.
All of this is true.Western Ferries are excellent,Calmac used to be but have become a laughing stock.
I'm sorry, but "old streakers" (without a local context) produces disquieting images.
Used to ride that ferry between Gourock and Dunoon quite often in the early 80s. Cheaper than the Caledonian ferry, and much shorter than driving all around the lochs!
You must be mistaken. It operated from somewhere called Gow-rock :)
@@rogink Gow-rock, that well known Klingon settlement on the Clyde.
When it was running on the Dunoon run it was run by Western Ferries... otherwise known as the Festering Wellies.
Well done Jago for tracking this down. I recall seeing this boat and wondering what it was, when I crossed on the Woolwich ferry a couple of years ago. I used to watch the Gourock-Dunoon ferry from my grandparents' house at Kilcreggan, but would never have guessed this boat was one of them. (It's pronounced Goo-rock, not Gow-rock, by the way).
If you like looking into abandoned things, but want it to be more train related, look into the abandoned Class 508 in the Wirral.
I liked how they didn't reply to your email so you implied that they might be possibly creating a race of secret fish people :D
That does seem likely. Literally, very fishy.
I mean they've not said they aren't!
That was thoroughly enjoyable! Maybe you should do more "Mystery Boat" content 😂. You really cranked your already witty humour up to 11!
The original proposal for this boat was to run it as an alternative riverbus commute service from Royal Arsenal Pier to (from memory) Canary Wharf. They planned to have an on board gym, cafeteria etc. It was going to be a slow service - again from memory I think it was 40 minutes. Thames clipper had just started their service which was a lot quicker. Octopus services never started- I think therewas a proposal to turn it into a party/function boat but there were issues with licences, PLA approval etc.
Thats the wonder of Woolwich
All looks like the 2016 Name Our Ship online poll. Boaty McYerkes maybe?
This absolutely has to be one of the funniest videos from you yet, Mr H - superbly done!
Soylent Geeen my friend, Soylent Green. A cryogenic operation where passengers board, are instantly frozen as the ship leaves dock, processed and once boat reaches other shore, the Soylent Green is pumped to the plant which packages it and distributes it 🙂
I have been on Western Ferries from Gourock to a place about 2 km north of Dunoon.The Cal Mac ferry actually goes to Dunoon itself but in the spirit of privatisation the Cal Mac ferry was hived off to a subsidiary called Argyle Ferries for a few years but the ghost of Lady Thatcher looking up to Scotland from the Ritz must have decided it wasn't sellable so it was remerged back into Cal Mac.
If you're interested, I can use my university account to download and send you the thesis. It dates to 2016. It mentions the MV Sound moored at Woolwich and has some photos of green pipes
"The Sound vessel was built by Asi-Verken A.S. of Amal, Sweden in 1959 as a car ferry. It has four 6-cylinder main engines Scania D11R 81 BT of 180 hp and two auxiliaries John Deere Generators (Powertech 4500) of 38 kW each. Images of the MV Sound, engine room and a part of the deck of the ship are shown in Figure II.1 to Figure II.3. "
Another ship, the Tamesis, gets more of a mention.
All in all looks promising, but heat of the exhaust gas seems to be the major issue. I suspect my PhD thesis will never get as many reads.
Thank you for sharing that snippet. 👍 Åmål, indeed!
What is the subject of your PhD thesis and good luck with it?
@@ditch3827 RNA metabolism. Thanks, my PhD is done, but I'll pass it on to my son, who submitted his thesis yesterday, also on RNA metabolism
The Tamesis recently went off for a bit of a refurb, so the owners must have some cash knocking about.
@@foowashere Resisting swearing in Swedish because of a classic movie.
I worked on the river Thames until recently. They use it as a storage facility for food and hot drinks. The crew of tug boats and port of London authorities use it.
Hilarious vlog episode. Had a most welcome chuckle. Thanks
It stinks of a "we'll have a party boat for rich bankers and traders and sell them cryogenics while we have them ensnared" sort of deal - which I'm pretty sure is actually illegal btw; it's a variant of some of the timeshare tactics which are illegal.
From wat I have been able to glean, two directors of Octoply go by the names of Flobelt and Foldginger, so perhaps tread softly. If you see a fluffy white cat - run.
A bit off the rails and all at sea today! I admire your dogged research - and you made us laugh.
Growing up in Dunoon, I remember crossing on this ferry many times. I knew she ended up in London a few years ago and honestly thought she would have been scrapped quite a while ago. So imagine my joy seeing her in your previous video, and then even greater joy when you uploaded this video! 😂
Ah, I thought it was one of the old Woolwich ferries. Yes, Western Ferries had an interesting fleet, including a former BR Lymington - Yarmouth ferry, was it the Freshwater, that served for about 40 years altogether
Beg pardon, it was the Lymington (1938)
BR's sealink had a very weird fleet of ferries.
From old 1930's paddle steamers to brand new ones.
Thank you Jago Mc Boatface. As you seem to have diversified into boats, perhaps you could do a video about PS Tattersall Castle and it's sister ships. There is, as I'm sure you know, a railway connection.
The added roof looks like it was adapted with the intent to use it as a party boat.
Thank you for researching this, I was one of the people who asked about it!
Love that my favourite train channel just uncovered the next insane experiment on a video about a boat
Another amazing episode Jago, thanks. Takes me back 35+ years as a CSS-14 submarine sailor stationed aboard Holy Loch tenders. Sailed the MV Sound of Shauna and MV Sound of Scarba many times from Hunters Quay. Western (The Wee Ferry) would never miss a crossing. Cal-Mac (The Great Ferry) would cancel or delay easily. Great times with a tin of Murphy’s stout and a sausage roll to embrace the Mighty Clyde!
New series: the underground boats of London.
How about 'The underwater boats of London' 😂😂
You should have put this one out on April 1st, just to really confuse the hell out of us!
Here in Cancale we have mutant oysters the size of horses feet that will make short shrift of capturing that ferry (and its inhabitants)! 🐙
For what it's worth (potentially extremely little), MV Sund is just Swedish for MV Sound, and vice versa.
Just from the outside I was wondering if it had been a cafe at some point. What's left of the ramp definitely gives away it was a roll on roll off but all the bolt on conservatory's don't seem to know what they're doing. Definitely some interesting houseboat material.
Omg I live right by where this ferry operated in Gourock, basically where the old photo of the MV Sound was taken. Looking at the rest of the fleet out my window on a VERY windy day. Strange crossover 🤣 between that and the most recent Blur album cover. I can go to the western ferries office? Doubt they will know much about an old ferry but I wondered where that old ship went!
thanks for the answer - to best of your abilities - to the question.
Never change, Jago.
Cancelled station...? Oh so THAT's what that unusually conspicuous emergency exit for the DLR is!
Oh, lordie... I haven't seen her in many a year
She's clearly being taken care of in some fashion given that she is floating and her bridge windows are clean and polished - Maybe the project is delayed due to covid
Excellent research, Jago! For a follow-up, we should have the story of the lighter moored next to it - it's apparently ex-PLA (with the slogan "Working for the Tidal Thames" painted on it), and I can just about make out the name "INROAD" (or possibly "IMROAO", but that is less plausible). That should be enough for someone of your talents!
Thanks for the fun vid!!
the bizarre, incoherent companies house records and their website makes me think octoply belongs to some semi-rich guy who has no idea what he wants but sure is impressed with himself
Yeah it's probably a part of some tax evasion scheme
You know what, I think that's _exactly_ what's going on.
Surely "octoply" is a particularly resilient toilet paper?
m o n e y l a u n d e r i n g
grifters gonna grift is all i can say
He owns a couple of boats that are bars
I won't dox anyone, but one of the partners in Octoply was a £1,000 winner on "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire." I assume that was the down payment on the boat.
It looks a bit like a floating greenhouse. I suppose you could grow algae in children's backyard wading pools laid out under the glass on what used to be the deck that was originally used for vehicle transport. Or something like that only, you know, more scientificish.
Mr JH - If you want a ship story look up the history of the last LST in existence - it was used on D-day and what happened to the ship between D-day and today (she is now on land outside next to the D-day museum Portsmouth saved for the nation) makes a very interesting story.
And while you are down in Portsmouth you could make a video or two on the lost lines esp the military dockyards lines and the lines to the mainline railway network
That’s an LCT. There are a few LSTs around, including one long ago converted to an auto ferry that I have ridden across Long Island Sound.
@@SearTripThere's at least one preserved in America that's still seaworthy; in fact the Vietnamese navy has at least one still operational
I remember the articles I read and heard of this boat, running between Gourock(pronounced Goo-rock) and Dunoon being replaced with something less capacious. It was retired, as a Navy base in the area was closed. Going by your commentary...spooky, eh? Cheers!
Well that is all clear as mud, What would do without you Jago i guess we would all be ferry confused. Top video as always thank you
Thanks Jago for a ferry interesting video, and thanks to everyone who floated the idea.
Thanks Jago, I would say having seen the Octopus logo thingy, that maybe they're an offshoot of SPECTRE ! Mwa ha ha. 😜
after this your up there as one of my fav youtubers. i dont remember the abba joke, but i bet it was dignified and qualitative 😂
Thank you for your educated guess and very, very funny video. You play with language as Lang-Lang plays piano: Brilliantly!
What I'd like to know, how did they get it all the way to Scotland? It's not exactly built for traversing the North Sea. It was built for a 10 minute trip (less than 4km) across from the mainland to Öland. It was sold the same year the bridge was opened, making the ferry obsolete. Must have been an expensive transport as well, on top of the 400000 SEK (more than half the build cost) they paid for it. (Whatever that is in today's value.)
Probably went around the north of Scotland and round to the Clyde
@@AndreiTupolev Caledonian Canal
@@AndreiTupolev Eh? I think you missed the point. They moved it from the Baltic Sea in southern Sweden, around the southern tip and up between Denmark and Sweden, and then across the North Sea to Scotland. And it's a 35m car ferry with a top speed of 10 knots.
@@demopem My guess would be that they followed the coast down past denmark and the netherlands and crossed near the english channel, while watching weather radar on a day with a clean weather report. There's a lot of services and shipping to aid if anything goes wrong throughout that entire route, and you're close enough to shore to minimize danger.
The route via southern North Sea sounds feasible given some of the small boats that get across. But I wonder if an alternative is to load it on to a large carrier ship like the ones used to move oil rig structures or superyachts. Might possibly be cheaper than a long slow voyage on an indirect route? I honestly have no idea though.
Maybe it's a floating green house growing non flowering tomato plants.🤔
If you visit their website they have 3 address linked, 1 is on an industrial estate and 2 are bars on boats, makes sense this had the same faith but might have run into permit issues.
As mentioned by @demopem this vessel was used for traversing the Kalmar Strait until the Öland Bridge was built in 1972. The pronunciation of Revsudden was OK, but Stora Rör not so much. Its 209 inhabitants must feel hurt and offended.
I walked by this and took a couple of photos in 2022. It's a nice calm stretch of the Thames.
In some of the shots it looked as though there might be two boats next to each other.
Brilliant I just love this
Sounds spooky, thanks Jago
I like the closing shot of the current ferry pivoting and then moving sideways. Cycloidal propeller goes "Weee!"
Your 'humor' is fabulous.
Not a clue about this boat but I know an odder one very close to it, if you stroll round Olympian Way just to the north of the Millennium dome, you will find an oddly truncated section of a boat, my son's friend's father owns it and his son is living on it. Possibly the oddest thing on the Thames!
That wasn't the thing that was done as an art installation is it?
@@AndreiTupolev Very possibly, it was put there for the Millennium stuff
Jago has already done a video on the boat you are talking about. ruclips.net/video/0vVFzaNV41w/видео.html
That little ferry could have been in a museum by now. The ferries between the Swedish mainland and the summer vacation paradise island of Öland mostly stopped running in 1972 when the 6 km road bridge opened.
I crossed on it from Gourock to Dunoon back in the day. Doon the watter!
All that is going on appears to be that it is slowly rusting away. I would bet that the port dues are considerably outstanding.
Now you made us all very curious!
I had to check that this wasn’t an April Fool’s day release or some such. Very odd!
Abba? Abba, Swedish? I knew them when they were a Lancashire clog dancing trio! Arthur, Betty, Boris, and Angela!
Oh! I've done that from Gourock to Dunoon then.....😊😊
It looks to be a similar design to the Tyne Ferry, just with a greenhouse ontop!
A ferry interesting video thanks Jago
They're extracting dinosaur DNA on board. Hmm! Where have I heard that before lol
Always wondered what the hell it was honestly thought it was a greenhouse boat and someone was growing weed 😂
Contact PLA and the MCA they will have contact details especially if it was registered for passenger use. Any vessel of that size requires basic maintenance and somebody must be paid for it. A floating lab to assist with the clean up of the river is a good idea. Keep up the great work.
Might be a nice houseboat with all that transparency.
Gourock is pronounced Go~rock and it ran the service to Dunoon
I assumed there was some sort of ship converted to night-club converted to hazard to shipping converted to scrap metal thing going on.
I have done many walks and videos in the area, I looked from the North Woolwich bank and could see a poster of a vinyl record with music notes so I though it was a disco boat with a sliding roof...?
Looking at it, it doesn't look any sort of seaworthy and the extra "greenhouse" construction on the fore and aft decks wouldn't do it's original design stability any good whatsoever (especially if that glazing is all steel and glass) as it would probably raise the Centre of Gravity or Centre of Balance well above the original specs. Yes, it was designed to hold the weight of vehicles, but at a much lower level. I wouldn't trust it on anything other than a river or lake. Plus the extra construction looks extremely shonky, i'm guessing no marine architects were involved.
My guess when I first saw it was it had been converted in to a "party boat" or floating nightclub, but then had spectacularly failed every safety inspection (see above) and was now a floating hulk waiting to sink like so many other project vessels do!
Looks like a greenhouse, my first thought was that they were growing weed.
There goes part of the Scottish audience. Gourock is normally said Gu-ruck.
Octoply? I thought double-ply was sufficient.
Reminds me of good old 3-ply; haven't heard that term for years!