Team 🐸 here! It’s not a ton of knitting, and you’re a much more experienced knitter now, so redoing it will go quickly and I think you’ll be much happier with the result. As I recall that’s a two skein shawl. I would start over with your second skein - in the long run you might not even need the yarn that you’ve already knitted up.
Was about to say the same thing…..I would start the same pattern with the second skein. When you finish that and you are confident you have the pattern sussed, break the yarn of the existing piece, use up the unused yarn. If you find you still need the already worked yarn, that’s the time to unravel and steam the yarn, and finish the project. PS start using lifelines
Why do people need to make snarky comments! I love watching you talk about knit, talk about acquisitions, talk about things in your life. No need to explain anything about why you aren’t knitting!! I’m here for it all!!!❤
Keep going, you don’t wear the spine straight and you can make it your special acceptance of self, not perfect but perfectly you shawl. Just don’t loose the love for it. I agree with you the yarn is fabulous.
The shawl is beautiful. You will do what you feel best about and it will be fine. With that said, I'm team Frog It. If you are enjoying the knitting, you'll just get extra joy from it by doing it again. Otherwise you may think only about the little wiggle in the spine every time you bring that shawl out and it may keep you from wearing it. Experience speaking. Best to you. Love the Toft dogs and everything you do!
Team 🐸. Then re-cast on right away. The yarn is so beautiful and you have more knitting experience now. My hope is that you will be happier with the finished project with out the little mistake.
I vote 🐸. The mistake will bother you later, you’re not too far along, and your gauge has probably changed in 5 years, so it’ll be the Flax sweater all over again.
Hello 👋🏻😊 plants are beautiful but they are never perfect and never symmetrical... And still they are wonderful, fantastic and perfect in their inperfectness 😍🐸✨🌿
I'm on team 🐸 and restart it with your new skills and enthusiasm. I love the yarn choice too and think you will be happier with it. Love the videos and I hope that everything went well with the wedding. Looking forward to seeing your finished TOFT dog and hopefully some more progress on Mark's jumper, when the super-secret test knit is complete. Happy crafting
I often say knitting is like life. Sometimes you face a hiccup in life, much like a wonky stitch in a project and you carry on, life will still be beautiful, a lesson was learned. The shawl will still be lovely, it will still keep you warm, it will still jazz up an outfit. I say carry on!
I would frog it and start again. Your knitting skills are soo much better and you will get it done again really quickly. If you leave it you will look at it and say oh it’s got a mistake and never wear it. Hope the wedding was awesome. Mark’s cakes look brilliant. Look forward to hearing what you decide. Melissa
Hi Martyn, how dare anyone pick on our Martyn! You are so kind and so generous. Crafting is a hobby and if you choose to do a super secret test knit you do it! Can't wait to see and hear what it is. For the Herbivore shawl. A couple of years ago I would have said just continue, it's a small error nobody will notice if you don't tell them, but I honestly think it would bother you and it's much to nice a yarn to languish in a draw not used. Start it again. I know what you mean about older girls not wanting cute. But in black with pink or green lashes would be perfect. Having four granddaughters aged 10-12, all different, getting it right is important, but so difficult at the same time! Just had a message from the ten year old telling us how much she is missing us. She's up Newcastle way so not been since early the year. If you are ever stuck and I can help feel free to shout, re toft. Hope the wedding was fun and you fulfilled your duties as best man. xxJane 🐑🌼
Martyn, just leave the flaw. It is not so bad, you know. And it gives your shawl character. It is a beautiful shawl even though it has this tiny little flaw.
Hello Martyn! I agree life does get in the way but as you say, it will all get done. Regarding the Herbivore Shawl - I would frog it. I’ve frogged sweaters. And recently, I have frogged a WIP that’s three years old to start it again. It won’t take you that long to get to back to that point. Love seeing you each week. These videos bring a light to the day. Best.
I think that you could totally ladder down to fix that shawl. If you're thinking about frogging it, you should try fixing it first - if it doesn't work out, you were going to rip it back anyway. But laddering down is not hard at all - you just knit with the strings that are attached. You would just pull the needles out of a few stitches on either side of that spine & let them drop to the mistake. It won't be hard. It makes you nervous because you've never done it before, but taking the mystery out of it will also take that apprehension out of it as well. Then you'll have a new tool in your knitting kit ❤
Like an uncontrolled child at a buffet 😂😂😂 I go to yarn shows with a list and try to stick to it, then turn into the uncontrolled child 🫣. Your shawl looks beautiful and to start again you would still be working with the beautiful yarn. I would say go with what you feel. I have a mistake in my sock project but it’s only noticeable to me and it will be on my foot!
Leave in the imperfection! The beauty of the yarn will distract the attention away from the design feature. You always used to say, there is no knitting police 😉
I’d probably restart your shawl with unused yarn and see how it goes, don’t rip out until you need the used yarn. See how you enjoy the project now & wait to make a final decision on the part you have already knit 😊
I agree with Mark start over and let the yarn be glorious rather than carry on and always see the mistake this takes away the glory of the yarn cos the ‘oh but look at the mistake’ will always be there xx
Kintsugi is the Japanese art of putting broken pottery pieces back together with gold - it's usually gorgeous.... It's really a personal thing about an error, sometimes you CAN drop down & fix it, but redoing twisted stitches isn't easy, plus you need to add a stitch to every row because you missed one increase.Can you run a thread through the stitches below the ooops? Kinda like a lifeline? Honestly, it doesn't hurt to start over either, your tension might be completely different than it was them. Yeah, I can't decide either. The yarn is GORGEOUS!!
At first I thought nah leave it and carry on, then I remembered my Dotted Rays shawl that I had done the same thing. I carried on and even though no one can see, I regret not fixing it. Rip it back and start over. Love the yarn. I have my raffle tickets, hopeful!
I would crochet a chain up through the central line to correct the ‘wiggly bit’. If not live with it, embrace your knitting journey and the perfection pressure that our society is now putting on us. You cant embrace positivity in other areas if you dont accept imperfections in others, yourself or things you do/have done.
🐸 Team frog it and start fresh again! after 5 years, you’ll get the excitement of a completely new project 🎉 good luck 🍀… on my way to take look at stephens shawls … mmh, maybe…
Hi Martyn. If the mistake stopped you from wanting to work on it the I would frog it. No one else may notice it, but you would, and you want to be comfortable wearing it ❤
Hope you had a nice day for the wedding in this junuary. Those welshcakes look so good! I love how you keep a secret testknit an actual secret in terms of not showing it at all! Team frog it for the shawl. It is in a very visible spot and the energy given off by you for living with it is not convincing me you think the whoopsiewhateverhappenedhereisfine is actually fine.
I would frog the shawl and start it again. Because the error is on the central spine it is more noticeable than if it had happened elsewhere in the pattern. Love the yarn
Mark is like my husband,he is the voice of reason, he knows you best… the yarn is amazing you should rip back and start again, you won’t love it if you carry on. Marks Welsh cakes look amazing how wonderful and kind of him to make them. The wedding looked amazing…….are you doing the octopus CAL….I’m on the fence, I love him but I need to buy the kit x.
I’m team frog it! Frogging hurts when you’re doing it, but I usually feel better about redoing something but I’m a perfectionist and not fixing it would drive me nuts!
In US there is a tradition or superstition that you leave an error in a crafted piece to allow the evil spirits to escape it. So often in heirloom pieces you will find a 'error' intentionally left in. However, the perfectionist in me says 'frog it and redo'.
If the shawl has been sitting around for a long time because of a flaw, then clearly the flaw has been enough of a bother not to finish the shawl and will continue to bother you. You are a much more experienced knitter now and can easily get back to where it is at from starting again. Frog it. BUT... Before you frog it, use it as a learning experience once more. Knowing that you have decided to frog it means you can have a practice at dropping down and fixing the problem, knowing full well that it won't matter if you make a mess of it as you are planning on frogging it. Drop down the stitches in the first row and see if you can put them on again as they should be. If you manage that, drop them down again and drop the next row as well. If you manage to pick up both rows correctly, do three rows down. If you've "got it" drop them all down to the mistake and work your way up again. If the tangle gets into a mess you can slip the needles off for the frogging. But you'll be delighted if you figured out how to correct what went wrong and it looks good. Even if you still find the need to frog it due to tension issues causing it not to look good despite getting it back correctly, you'll have improved your toolbox of skills once more.
Either tink back stitch by stitch or frog back before the mistake in a row where there are NO increases? But thread a lifeline through first. As long as that mistake doesn't upset the stitch count? Just leave it and plough on. Are the Welsh hearts not cooked? Dont put completion time constraints on yourself. Just record when you can. Life gets in the way. We will be still here. ❤
being belgian, I had never heard of welsh cakes. well, I made some this morning and they were very nice, nutritious and such a quick bake! thanks for introducing us to this traditional welsh treat!
Martin: Sometimes we are our own worst critic. You are the only one who will know there is a mistake. If it were me it would make me crazy if I left it that way.
Ok as many of us here, I am team frog and reknit. HOWEVER: If you DO decide on frogging anyway, you have nothing to lose and might as well try fixing the mistake first. As that is a skill that requires practice. Get that practice in - if it doesn't work, you can still frog.
Keep going plants are not perfect and have crocked stems. It would be a shame to frog it. Life is not perfect. Go rouge.❤😅 thanks for being there I appreciate the visit. Even if I live in Florida. Wish I had better access to Toft.
My opinion: frog it completely and do it again. Because if you go on with the mistake left, you will ever know that there is a mistake. You will never be 100% glad about an imperfect endresult. And the yarn is so pretty, it is worth to become a perfect shawl. And the time you consider about is better used to re-do the project.
Welsh cakes- yum- for me the important distinction is that you cook them on the stove top on a griddle and dust them with caster sugar afterwards. I like using crystallised ginger or freshly chopped candied peel (not the soapy pre cut stuff) and sultanas!
What would Steven do? Try blocking it first, see if you can grab a darning needle and make a mini adjustments (in gold)! You can fix it! AND you already have lots of perfect items. How fun to wear the fixed item and see if anyone sees it. Have a great wedding party!
If it were me, I would take it out to begin again at the cast on. I could live with somethings but that seems like it’s so early you should not be too long to get to that point again. But maybe wait until you get a few of your other WIPS done before starting again. Maybe use it as your treat after finishing Mark’s jumper. 😉 It will be brilliant! 🎉
Oh Martyn really a list of reasonableness? Why start now. I look to you to support my I can knit all the projects in 3 months even though they are really 12 months of work. Wink 😉😉😉😉😉❤
It's also an old tradition to leave a mistake in your knit or crochet work so your soul doesn't get trapped. Cause you leave a bit of your soul in everything you make ❤ and I love that idea. However if I see you talking. Your face get way more excited when you talk about doing it all over then just go ahead. So I feel like you would be happier to start again. I'm.not a perfectionist I trive in chaos. But I had just frogged a huge bit on my project because i made a mistake. And have started again. And I am now way more excited about the project
Martyn, I can understand that you want to fix the mistake of the shawl. If you rip it please start again. The yarn is gorgeous and the pattern too. I knitted two of them (one with a fingering yarn and one with an aran yarn) and I absolutely love both,
I quite like the grey yarn with flex of copper. Personnaly I would start again but knowing you I'd say just embrace the mistake and wear it proudly !!! Have a good time at the wedding !!! 🎉
Hi Martyn love your podcast. I would frog the shawl. When this happens to me, I frog it and find that it knits up much faster the second time around. Loved your pictures at your friends wedding.💗
I’m technically a perfectionist but I often leave errors in when I’m crafting if I’ve got a way past them, depending on how likely it is to spoil the fit or whatever. As a result, I’ve had things I’ve left errors in and no one has been any wiser and I have enjoyed wearing them regardless, but others where it is more obvious to me I’ve not enjoyed and ended up not wearing and getting rid. So, if it was me that one is a very small error and easily missed so I would probably leave it and carry on. If you feel it would mar the pleasure of wearing it, then frog if you really can’t fix it because we need to enjoy the process and the wearing/ gifting.
I’m usually Team 🐸 but recently I was knitting a shawl with a similar central spine with eyelets on each side. I’m part of a weekly knitters zoom group and I noticed during the call that I had purled one of the knit spine stitches. I showed everyone and we discussed frog or ignore. One friend suggested try duplicate stitch overtop first. And it looks amazing. So perhaps try a fix and if you’re not happy with it - 🐸. I always fix mistakes. I’m happier in the end and as we all know there’s nothing wrong with more knitting. Linda from Canada. Proud Process Knitter. 🧶❤️
It’s been over 5 years, frog it and reuse yarn for something else not that pattern. Your knitting tension will have changed and if you were that enthused about it, it wouldn’t be a wip. As a fellow only child like Mark, I now realise where my perfectionist bit comes from! Thanks
If you decide to start over, challenge yourself to ladder down to the spot and see if you can fix it first. If you decide to carry on you will have to make sure your knitting gauge hasn't changed since gaining more experience in knitting.
Team 🐸 it! 😁 Cannot wait to see you secret project. I think you are knitting on the Stephen West socks (haha wild guess) . You and Marc should a vlog together about perfection and not perfection. Anyway love the Podcast 🎉
If the mistake will glare at you each time you take the completed shawl out for wearing, then you must frog it. If you can wear the shawl without focusing on the error then continue knitting. You do you.
I think personally I would frog it. I started a project and made an error and like you I put it away, love the yarn so I frog 🐸 it. Good luck with Maurice. I hope the wedding went well. Hugs to you both ❤❤❤
Martyn, if you are waffling already about the shawl with a flaw, I would rip it out and start again. I find when I ignore that waffle feeling, it does not go away and I end up not having joy in the project, but you do you! 💕
I think you should rip this project back and reuse the yarn. Your tension will probably have changed it’s always hard to work out where you are in the pattern and if a mistake is visible in a project it will be all you can see every time you look at it. Yarn is lovely though ❤ excited to see the secret project soon.
Frog it! If you were okay with carrying on (which would be fine) you would have done so by now and it wouldn't be worrying you. Start over and it will never bother you again. Love watching you and all you are up to.
That was what I was going to say too. The fact that you are dilemmaing so much over it means you wouldn't be happy if you don't fix it. It is in the central spine of the shawl so you'll always see it x this is going to be my next Westknits cast on, so maybe we need a KAL before the MKAL 😂
After all this time if you don't know if you can live with the error in the shawl, then you likely can't. Frog it and choose a simpler shawl pattern that will show off the beauty of your grusty yarn.
I continued on with a sweater that had obvious short row increases on the front....I didn't worry and finished the entire body..... couldn't stand the error and ripped the whole thing back to the yoke.....it is still a UFO😂
This just came up as new, but I want to vote for pics of you both dressed for the wedding. Those cakes are so nice. Makes me want to look up a recipe. I hope the wedding was terrific.
I would crochet a chain up through the central line to correct the ‘wiggly bit’ kind of like over stitching it as you might embroider on knitting .If not live with it, embrace your knitting journey and the perfection pressure that our society is now putting on us. You cant embrace positivity in other areas if you dont accept imperfections in others, yourself or things you do/have done.
I’m not going to be very helpful Martyn with your shawl dilemma but it really is up to you at the end of the day! I can only tell you I made a mistake on a cable twist on a project some time ago myself. I left it in and carried on. However it played on my mind for weeks and in the end I went back and corrected it- and I’m glad I did! Btw those heart welsh cakes look so delicious x
Team 🐸 here! It’s not a ton of knitting, and you’re a much more experienced knitter now, so redoing it will go quickly and I think you’ll be much happier with the result. As I recall that’s a two skein shawl. I would start over with your second skein - in the long run you might not even need the yarn that you’ve already knitted up.
Was about to say the same thing…..I would start the same pattern with the second skein. When you finish that and you are confident you have the pattern sussed, break the yarn of the existing piece, use up the unused yarn. If you find you still need the already worked yarn, that’s the time to unravel and steam the yarn, and finish the project.
PS start using lifelines
Why do people need to make snarky comments! I love watching you talk about knit, talk about acquisitions, talk about things in your life. No need to explain anything about why you aren’t knitting!! I’m here for it all!!!❤
Team start over and enjoy the project with new found joy and enthusiasm 😊
Keep going, you don’t wear the spine straight and you can make it your special acceptance of self, not perfect but perfectly you shawl. Just don’t loose the love for it. I agree with you the yarn is fabulous.
Wabi sabi? I would rip out and start over. You would probably feel better, your creations are wonderful!
Or do the Kintsugi?😉 And "ignore" and continue ☺️
Team 🐸 - the beautiful yarn is worth it!
The shawl is beautiful. You will do what you feel best about and it will be fine. With that said, I'm team Frog It. If you are enjoying the knitting, you'll just get extra joy from it by doing it again. Otherwise you may think only about the little wiggle in the spine every time you bring that shawl out and it may keep you from wearing it. Experience speaking. Best to you. Love the Toft dogs and everything you do!
The wool is lovely and great for that shawl pattern. Undo it and start again - it will look fabulous!❤😊
Team Mark/🐸it, Such lovely yarn, which needs to be the star of this shawl, not 'can you spot the mistake'.
Team 🐸. Then re-cast on right away. The yarn is so beautiful and you have more knitting experience now. My hope is that you will be happier with the finished project with out the little mistake.
I vote 🐸. The mistake will bother you later, you’re not too far along, and your gauge has probably changed in 5 years, so it’ll be the Flax sweater all over again.
Hello 👋🏻😊 plants are beautiful but they are never perfect and never symmetrical... And still they are wonderful, fantastic and perfect in their inperfectness 😍🐸✨🌿
I'm on team 🐸 and restart it with your new skills and enthusiasm. I love the yarn choice too and think you will be happier with it. Love the videos and I hope that everything went well with the wedding. Looking forward to seeing your finished TOFT dog and hopefully some more progress on Mark's jumper, when the super-secret test knit is complete. Happy crafting
I often say knitting is like life. Sometimes you face a hiccup in life, much like a wonky stitch in a project and you carry on, life will still be beautiful, a lesson was learned. The shawl will still be lovely, it will still keep you warm, it will still jazz up an outfit. I say carry on!
I love the secret test knit suspense and I have a bet with my husband what it is.
There's no need for snarkyness some people if you can't say something nice shut up, we love you Martyn never change xxx
Team frog it 🐸❤❤❤❤
Live with it. You can do it.🎉🎉 You can do it rarara sis boom ba.🎉🎉. Iris
If you don't know, then you know 😊 Frog it and start over and enjoy the full experience of your yarn again 🤩
I would frog it and start again. Your knitting skills are soo much better and you will get it done again really quickly. If you leave it you will look at it and say oh it’s got a mistake and never wear it. Hope the wedding was awesome. Mark’s cakes look brilliant. Look forward to hearing what you decide. Melissa
Hi Martyn, how dare anyone pick on our Martyn!
You are so kind and so generous. Crafting is a hobby and if you choose to do a super secret test knit you do it! Can't wait to see and hear what it is.
For the Herbivore shawl. A couple of years ago I would have said just continue, it's a small error nobody will notice if you don't tell them, but I honestly think it would bother you and it's much to nice a yarn to languish in a draw not used.
Start it again.
I know what you mean about older girls not wanting cute. But in black with pink or green lashes would be perfect.
Having four granddaughters aged 10-12, all different, getting it right is important, but so difficult at the same time!
Just had a message from the ten year old telling us how much she is missing us. She's up Newcastle way so not been since early the year.
If you are ever stuck and I can help feel free to shout, re toft.
Hope the wedding was fun and you fulfilled your duties as best man. xxJane 🐑🌼
Martyn, just leave the flaw. It is not so bad, you know. And it gives your shawl character. It is a beautiful shawl even though it has this tiny little flaw.
Team frog it I think you will always see it 😊
Frog it immediately. You will be so relieved!
Done is better than perfect!! Keep it and finishe it!
Team Frog. It sounds like you may be happier with the project without the mistake. So, rip it, rip it, rip it.
Hello Martyn! I agree life does get in the way but as you say, it will all get done. Regarding the Herbivore Shawl - I would frog it. I’ve frogged sweaters. And recently, I have frogged a WIP that’s three years old to start it again. It won’t take you that long to get to back to that point. Love seeing you each week. These videos bring a light to the day. Best.
I think that you could totally ladder down to fix that shawl. If you're thinking about frogging it, you should try fixing it first - if it doesn't work out, you were going to rip it back anyway. But laddering down is not hard at all - you just knit with the strings that are attached. You would just pull the needles out of a few stitches on either side of that spine & let them drop to the mistake. It won't be hard. It makes you nervous because you've never done it before, but taking the mystery out of it will also take that apprehension out of it as well. Then you'll have a new tool in your knitting kit ❤
Like an uncontrolled child at a buffet 😂😂😂 I go to yarn shows with a list and try to stick to it, then turn into the uncontrolled child 🫣.
Your shawl looks beautiful and to start again you would still be working with the beautiful yarn. I would say go with what you feel. I have a mistake in my sock project but it’s only noticeable to me and it will be on my foot!
I would carry on , team carry on , hello mark ❤ bye bye mark xx love to Martyn ❤xx
Leave in the imperfection! The beauty of the yarn will distract the attention away from the design feature.
You always used to say, there is no knitting police 😉
How about, attempt to fix, but be prepared to pull out, nothing wasted, and always a learning experience!
I’d probably restart your shawl with unused yarn and see how it goes, don’t rip out until you need the used yarn. See how you enjoy the project now & wait to make a final decision on the part you have already knit 😊
Don’t stress-- leave it as is-- and complete it !!!!!!!! No one will know-- just call it your signature!!!! It’s lovely !!!!!!
I agree with Mark start over and let the yarn be glorious rather than carry on and always see the mistake this takes away the glory of the yarn cos the ‘oh but look at the mistake’ will always be there xx
I think 🐸 it. Once you have the yarn balled up you’ll be ready for inspiration whether or not it’s that shawl or something else. 🧶
Team 🐸 and use the yarn for the next westknit mkal.
Kintsugi is the Japanese art of putting broken pottery pieces back together with gold - it's usually gorgeous....
It's really a personal thing about an error, sometimes you CAN drop down & fix it, but redoing twisted stitches isn't easy, plus you need to add a stitch to every row because you missed one increase.Can you run a thread through the stitches below the ooops? Kinda like a lifeline?
Honestly, it doesn't hurt to start over either, your tension might be completely different than it was them.
Yeah, I can't decide either.
The yarn is GORGEOUS!!
When I knitting and I don't like it I rip it out. Start again love
Frog it. 🐸🐸🐸
At first I thought nah leave it and carry on, then I remembered my Dotted Rays shawl that I had done the same thing. I carried on and even though no one can see, I regret not fixing it. Rip it back and start over. Love the yarn. I have my raffle tickets, hopeful!
I would crochet a chain up through the central line to correct the ‘wiggly bit’. If not live with it, embrace your knitting journey and the perfection pressure that our society is now putting on us. You cant embrace positivity in other areas if you dont accept imperfections in others, yourself or things you do/have done.
🐸 Team frog it and start fresh again! after 5 years, you’ll get the excitement of a completely new project 🎉 good luck 🍀… on my way to take look at stephens shawls … mmh, maybe…
Hi Martyn. If the mistake stopped you from wanting to work on it the I would frog it. No one else may notice it, but you would, and you want to be comfortable wearing it ❤
Hi Martyn, i would frog it.🐸 It is not big, and you can use the yarn for something new and exciting.😊
Hope you had a nice day for the wedding in this junuary.
Those welshcakes look so good!
I love how you keep a secret testknit an actual secret in terms of not showing it at all!
Team frog it for the shawl. It is in a very visible spot and the energy given off by you for living with it is not convincing me you think the whoopsiewhateverhappenedhereisfine is actually fine.
I would frog the shawl and start it again. Because the error is on the central spine it is more noticeable than if it had happened elsewhere in the pattern. Love the yarn
Mark is like my husband,he is the voice of reason, he knows you best… the yarn is amazing you should rip back and start again, you won’t love it if you carry on. Marks Welsh cakes look amazing how wonderful and kind of him to make them. The wedding looked amazing…….are you doing the octopus CAL….I’m on the fence, I love him but I need to buy the kit x.
I’m team frog it! Frogging hurts when you’re doing it, but I usually feel better about redoing something but I’m a perfectionist and not fixing it would drive me nuts!
Keep going it’s not a huge error and makes your shawl unique
What ever you decide, you should finish the shawl. It's beautiful and the yarn is stunning. Love the Toft puppies!
In US there is a tradition or superstition that you leave an error in a crafted piece to allow the evil spirits to escape it. So often in heirloom pieces you will find a 'error' intentionally left in. However, the perfectionist in me says 'frog it and redo'.
Hi Martyn. Marc knows you best, so I say: listen to him and rip it back!
Oooo sounds like the SSAL!!! Welsh cakes sound like American scones. Yum!
If the shawl has been sitting around for a long time because of a flaw, then clearly the flaw has been enough of a bother not to finish the shawl and will continue to bother you. You are a much more experienced knitter now and can easily get back to where it is at from starting again. Frog it. BUT... Before you frog it, use it as a learning experience once more. Knowing that you have decided to frog it means you can have a practice at dropping down and fixing the problem, knowing full well that it won't matter if you make a mess of it as you are planning on frogging it. Drop down the stitches in the first row and see if you can put them on again as they should be. If you manage that, drop them down again and drop the next row as well. If you manage to pick up both rows correctly, do three rows down. If you've "got it" drop them all down to the mistake and work your way up again. If the tangle gets into a mess you can slip the needles off for the frogging. But you'll be delighted if you figured out how to correct what went wrong and it looks good. Even if you still find the need to frog it due to tension issues causing it not to look good despite getting it back correctly, you'll have improved your toolbox of skills once more.
Either tink back stitch by stitch or frog back before the mistake in a row where there are NO increases? But thread a lifeline through first. As long as that mistake doesn't upset the stitch count? Just leave it and plough on. Are the Welsh hearts not cooked? Dont put completion time constraints on yourself. Just record when you can. Life gets in the way. We will be still here. ❤
Loving your podcast❤️😀regards from Iceland
being belgian, I had never heard of welsh cakes. well, I made some this morning and they were very nice, nutritious and such a quick bake! thanks for introducing us to this traditional welsh treat!
Martin: Sometimes we are our own worst critic. You are the only one who will know there is a mistake. If it were me it would make me crazy if I left it that way.
Team Frog iiit😊 here.
Ok as many of us here, I am team frog and reknit. HOWEVER:
If you DO decide on frogging anyway, you have nothing to lose and might as well try fixing the mistake first. As that is a skill that requires practice. Get that practice in - if it doesn't work, you can still frog.
Team Live with It. Life is too short to stress these small things. Move on and learn from it. I too, love the wool ❤
Hi Martyn, I’m on team 🐸 here. If it was me it would really annoy me with the mistake in it and you haven’t knitted to far. I love the colour ❤
Keep going plants are not perfect and have crocked stems. It would be a shame to frog it. Life is not perfect. Go rouge.❤😅 thanks for being there I appreciate the visit. Even if I live in Florida. Wish I had better access to Toft.
My opinion: frog it completely and do it again. Because if you go on with the mistake left, you will ever know that there is a mistake. You will never be 100% glad about an imperfect endresult. And the yarn is so pretty, it is worth to become a perfect shawl. And the time you consider about is better used to re-do the project.
Just start again with the other skein. Will feel much more positive than reusing frogged yarn 😄
I’m with Mark, 🐸.. but I’m also an only child perfectionist 😂
Yes ,team frog it 🐸, gorgeous yarn and you won’t be happy with it. It’s the Amish that do a deliberate mistake to show that only God is perfect.
team frog and start again.
I say live with it! It looks lovely and mark do t worry about what u look like we like to see you on camera!
Welsh cakes- yum- for me the important distinction is that you cook them on the stove top on a griddle and dust them with caster sugar afterwards. I like using crystallised ginger or freshly chopped candied peel (not the soapy pre cut stuff) and sultanas!
What would Steven do? Try blocking it first, see if you can grab a darning needle and make a mini adjustments (in gold)! You can fix it! AND you already have lots of perfect items. How fun to wear the fixed item and see if anyone sees it. Have a great wedding party!
If it were me, I would take it out to begin again at the cast on. I could live with somethings but that seems like it’s so early you should not be too long to get to that point again. But maybe wait until you get a few of your other WIPS done before starting again. Maybe use it as your treat after finishing Mark’s jumper. 😉 It will be brilliant! 🎉
Team frog it!!
Oh Martyn really a list of reasonableness? Why start now. I look to you to support my I can knit all the projects in 3 months even though they are really 12 months of work. Wink 😉😉😉😉😉❤
I’m team 🐸
It's also an old tradition to leave a mistake in your knit or crochet work so your soul doesn't get trapped. Cause you leave a bit of your soul in everything you make ❤ and I love that idea. However if I see you talking. Your face get way more excited when you talk about doing it all over then just go ahead. So I feel like you would be happier to start again. I'm.not a perfectionist I trive in chaos. But I had just frogged a huge bit on my project because i made a mistake. And have started again. And I am now way more excited about the project
Small mistakes may be left in place. From the looks of the stitches, this should be re-knit. You will be .much happier with the finished project ❤
Martyn, I can understand that you want to fix the mistake of the shawl. If you rip it please start again. The yarn is gorgeous and the pattern too. I knitted two of them (one with a fingering yarn and one with an aran yarn) and I absolutely love both,
I quite like the grey yarn with flex of copper. Personnaly I would start again but knowing you I'd say just embrace the mistake and wear it proudly !!! Have a good time at the wedding !!! 🎉
Hi Martyn love your podcast. I would frog the shawl. When this happens to me, I frog it and find that it knits up much faster the second time around. Loved your pictures at your friends wedding.💗
I’m technically a perfectionist but I often leave errors in when I’m crafting if I’ve got a way past them, depending on how likely it is to spoil the fit or whatever. As a result, I’ve had things I’ve left errors in and no one has been any wiser and I have enjoyed wearing them regardless, but others where it is more obvious to me I’ve not enjoyed and ended up not wearing and getting rid. So, if it was me that one is a very small error and easily missed so I would probably leave it and carry on. If you feel it would mar the pleasure of wearing it, then frog if you really can’t fix it because we need to enjoy the process and the wearing/ gifting.
I’m usually Team 🐸 but recently I was knitting a shawl with a similar central spine with eyelets on each side. I’m part of a weekly knitters zoom group and I noticed during the call that I had purled one of the knit spine stitches. I showed everyone and we discussed frog or ignore. One friend suggested try duplicate stitch overtop first. And it looks amazing. So perhaps try a fix and if you’re not happy with it - 🐸. I always fix mistakes. I’m happier in the end and as we all know there’s nothing wrong with more knitting. Linda from Canada. Proud Process Knitter. 🧶❤️
It’s been over 5 years, frog it and reuse yarn for something else not that pattern. Your knitting tension will have changed and if you were that enthused about it, it wouldn’t be a wip. As a fellow only child like Mark, I now realise where my perfectionist bit comes from! Thanks
If you decide to start over, challenge yourself to ladder down to the spot and see if you can fix it first. If you decide to carry on you will have to make sure your knitting gauge hasn't changed since gaining more experience in knitting.
Team 🐸 it! 😁 Cannot wait to see you secret project. I think you are knitting on the Stephen West socks (haha wild guess) .
You and Marc should a vlog together about perfection and not perfection. Anyway love the Podcast 🎉
If the mistake will glare at you each time you take the completed shawl out for wearing, then you must frog it. If you can wear the shawl without focusing on the error then continue knitting. You do you.
I think personally I would frog it. I started a project and made an error and like you I put it away, love the yarn so I frog 🐸 it. Good luck with Maurice. I hope the wedding went well. Hugs to you both ❤❤❤
Martyn, if you are waffling already about the shawl with a flaw, I would rip it out and start again. I find when I ignore that waffle feeling, it does not go away and I end up not having joy in the project, but you do you! 💕
I think you should rip this project back and reuse the yarn. Your tension will probably have changed it’s always hard to work out where you are in the pattern and if a mistake is visible in a project it will be all you can see every time you look at it. Yarn is lovely though ❤ excited to see the secret project soon.
I’ve never regretted ripping back and doing something over - I can’t say the same about just leaving it - 🤷♀️
Team frog it. If it bugs you some now it will bug you always
Frog it! If you were okay with carrying on (which would be fine) you would have done so by now and it wouldn't be worrying you. Start over and it will never bother you again. Love watching you and all you are up to.
I came here to say this too. It shows a lot that you haven't committed to continuing with it before now
That was what I was going to say too. The fact that you are dilemmaing so much over it means you wouldn't be happy if you don't fix it. It is in the central spine of the shawl so you'll always see it x this is going to be my next Westknits cast on, so maybe we need a KAL before the MKAL 😂
After all this time if you don't know if you can live with the error in the shawl, then you likely can't. Frog it and choose a simpler shawl pattern that will show off the beauty of your grusty yarn.
I continued on with a sweater that had obvious short row increases on the front....I didn't worry and finished the entire body..... couldn't stand the error and ripped the whole thing back to the yoke.....it is still a UFO😂
This just came up as new, but I want to vote for pics of you both dressed for the wedding. Those cakes are so nice. Makes me want to look up a recipe. I hope the wedding was terrific.
Live with it
I would crochet a chain up through the central line to correct the ‘wiggly bit’ kind of like over stitching it as you might embroider on knitting .If not live with it, embrace your knitting journey and the perfection pressure that our society is now putting on us. You cant embrace positivity in other areas if you dont accept imperfections in others, yourself or things you do/have done.
I knitting my husband a dishcloth mats
I’m not going to be very helpful Martyn with your shawl dilemma but it really is up to you at the end of the day! I can only tell you I made a mistake on a cable twist on a project some time ago myself. I left it in and carried on. However it played on my mind for weeks and in the end I went back and corrected it- and I’m glad I did! Btw those heart welsh cakes look so delicious x
I’d frog and start again. It will go faster the second time and you’ll be happier with it.