Explaining the Sukuna Fraud Allegations

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  • Опубликовано: 28 июл 2023
  • Today I'll be explaining the recent Sukuna "fraud allegations" that have taken the JJK fandom by storm. I hope you enjoy the video!
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  • @ninjatall15
    @ninjatall15 11 месяцев назад +214

    The first fraudulent claim is him stating once he will make yuji's body his own he would be the first to kill Gojo yet he is using Megumi's body to fight Gojo

    • @motivatedman4630
      @motivatedman4630 11 месяцев назад +34

      And the first one he actually killed when he got full control was Tsumiki/Yorozu. For a power boost. Cause he couldn't handle Goatjo.

    • @salah777
      @salah777 11 месяцев назад +8

      Donkey the author changed his mind not Sukuna 😂😂😂

    • @samuraitadpole5459
      @samuraitadpole5459 11 месяцев назад +6

      ​@@salah777if gojo tanked malevolent shrine (gojo didn't have to switch out with someone) then what would shrine do?
      Sukuna understood gojo is like that but he didn't know the extent

    • @existenntialcrisis6520
      @existenntialcrisis6520 11 месяцев назад +5

      @@motivatedman4630 bro nobody is gonna handle gojo at 10%(?) of their total CE... the only reason he killed yorozu was so he could stop megumi from limiting his CE output

    • @KKSBETRAY
      @KKSBETRAY 11 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@salah777Donkey Sukuna didn't know Megumis technique existed at that moment, so he just threatened to do whatever he could with Yuji's body

  • @jonathanrutherford7671
    @jonathanrutherford7671 11 месяцев назад +18

    Sukuna is top 3 biggest frauds known in anime? Imagine being called the strongest curse holding yourself as the king of curses then getting your fade destroyed

  • @cameronb5664
    @cameronb5664 11 месяцев назад +41

    I think what most people are forgetting is that regardless, Sukuna's domain is his strongest technique. The whole rule of the show is that Domain Expansions are the "pinnacle of jujutsu." So, if Gojo could withstand Malevolent Shrine, but Sukuna can't even withstand 10 seconds of Unlimited Void, it's clear who the superior sorcerer is. Yes, I know that people are arguing that if Sukuna didn't have 10 shadows he might have did something different, but either way if you follow logic, why would Sukuna use a questionable technique to deal with something as powerful as Unlimited Void? The answer is that Sukuna would use his most sure bet of destroying Unlimited Void.
    People are saying that Sukuna is playing around and just trying to slowly weaken Gojo, but that literally wouldn't make sense. The reason why that wouldn't make sense is because one slip up of Unlimited Void and you're DONE. So Sukuna can't risk toying around with Gojo.
    With that being said, Sukuna's only SURE way of dealing with Unlimited Void is through Mahoraga. That is why so many people are calling Sukuna a fraud because if he did not have 10 shadows and Mahoraga, there would be no SURE way of dealing with Unlimited Void.
    Unless Greg does an ass pull or creates a technique not yet seen.
    And that's another reason people are calling Sukuna a fraud. If Sukuna had such a technique, he would not have hesitated to use it. At least if the writing is good and consistent.

    • @cameronb5664
      @cameronb5664 11 месяцев назад +4

      And I meant Gege, not GREG lol

    • @blank_ai
      @blank_ai  11 месяцев назад +3

      This is a great explanation cameron. You put it much better than I did!

    • @goofyisntretarteduare1826
      @goofyisntretarteduare1826 11 месяцев назад +1

      Isnt Sukuna restricted to use his ct due to some reasons( I forgot ) and he cant fight gojo if he was in yuujis body since he can still surpress him

  • @BlueVortex1031
    @BlueVortex1031 11 месяцев назад +23

    This chapter & fight will forever be known as the Clubhouse Showdown 😭

  • @da7000m
    @da7000m 11 месяцев назад +27

    This level of animation though.. LEGEND-TIER.

    • @blank_ai
      @blank_ai  11 месяцев назад +3

      Check out the owner of the clips. The link to their work is in the bio!

    • @da7000m
      @da7000m 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@blank_ai okay 👌🏻

    • @fbafoundationalbuck-broken6011
      @fbafoundationalbuck-broken6011 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@blank_ai SUKUNA IS A FRAUD.

  • @cesarpedrazamartinezgarcia725
    @cesarpedrazamartinezgarcia725 11 месяцев назад +51

    If you think about it, you can probably say the same in many instances with other match ups, mainly protagonists that needed more power to finally beat the odds that stacked against them. Just in this case it's working for our villain. People are harsh on Sukuna because he was this big bad invincible villain and suddenly he's down to earth, still all powerful but dodging death like anyone else. You can definitely say the same for Sukuna against Mahoraga, if he had less fingers it could've been a much closer call to even a loss

    • @samuraitadpole5459
      @samuraitadpole5459 11 месяцев назад +10

      If sukuna had less fingers he'd be dead. Gojo is the ceiling of power so if sukuna didn't come with his strongest form he'd get mid diffed at best

    • @dotsdot5608
      @dotsdot5608 11 месяцев назад +1

      cope lol 😂

  • @Sailor_Jae1
    @Sailor_Jae1 11 месяцев назад +4

    I feel like Higoruma is literally in the story still to act as prosecutor of sukunas fraudulent ways. I could see there being a scene after sukuna has lost to whoever where Higoruma comes and prosecutes him XD

  • @nem0men_901
    @nem0men_901 11 месяцев назад +27

    These allegations are so shallow tbh
    People praise Toji for being clever, sneak attacking and using everything available to him to win, yet when Sukuna does the same he's a fraud
    And the point you make about Sukuna's approach to this fight being different without Ten Shadows is also something people tend to ignore. We don't even know what his full arsenal of abilities is, and he's likely hiding it on purpose

    • @confused4069
      @confused4069 11 месяцев назад +28

      The problem is he was portrayed as a tanky character not clever
      Just imagine kaido from one piece using outside help, cheap tricks to win a fight after all that character portrayal, people will call him fraud

    • @nem0men_901
      @nem0men_901 11 месяцев назад +5

      @@confused4069 I didn't get that impression. He was shown to be very analytical in his first fight with Gojo. And every encounter after that, to be fair. His basic strategy is observing, learning as much as he can, then ending the confrontation with a decisive move
      His current fight is also something he approached with a plan in mind. He has thought of a counter to everything the Infinity can throw at him. So far Gojo's been the reactive one and had to brute force his way through difficult situations

    • @rohan7969
      @rohan7969 11 месяцев назад +17

      @@nem0men_901 Sukana has enough cursed energy to probably fuel an entire nation and a domain expansion that effectively kills anything in its radius so of course people will expect him to fight fair and win. Toji on the other hand is just some dude with a sword and superhuman strength and speed.

    • @Ekankimaharaj
      @Ekankimaharaj 11 месяцев назад +1

      He isn't doing it on purpose,it was mentioned that when sukuna is trying to adapt to gojo infinity, he can't use his cursed techniques ,ie the one black box, which he used to kill jogo, and if he isn't trying to use his own cursed technique and preferring ,to use Megumi technique then he knows that they will not work against gojo, and toji was weak ,he himself admitted that without a proper plan he would lose against gojo,

    • @MachinaOwl
      @MachinaOwl 11 месяцев назад +3

      It's very funny you use Toji as an example considering that people try to act like he's on Gojo's level, even though he had to tire Gojo out over the course of several days lol

  • @Vloneburrito
    @Vloneburrito 11 месяцев назад +4

    I know gege is purposefully making sukuna look bad like even in the recent chapter like idk why he gassed sukuna up before the fight and then make it like this. Either he has something unexpected planned or people pleasing gojo fans

  • @laneyheffelfinger2022
    @laneyheffelfinger2022 11 месяцев назад +6

    your favorite mutual here!!! goatjo slams fraudkuna

    • @blank_ai
      @blank_ai  11 месяцев назад +1

      My favourite mutual? Hmmm... I wonder who that might be...

  • @donkey_mediocre7246
    @donkey_mediocre7246 11 месяцев назад +1

    We need that secret ct reveal scapegoat

  • @papanotdaddy1012
    @papanotdaddy1012 11 месяцев назад +9

    Sukuna said gojo will be the first one he will kill. #1 he never took yuji's body. #2 he already killed two peoples before gojo😂😂 the king of lies

    • @blank_ai
      @blank_ai  11 месяцев назад

      That is true ;)

    • @Vloneburrito
      @Vloneburrito 11 месяцев назад +2

      Bro it just didn’t go as planned. It’s not even a lie he just couldn’t do it because he couldn’t take over Yuji body and he just wanted to kill

    • @chaosking88
      @chaosking88 11 месяцев назад +3

      nope 20F sukuna hasn't fought anyone other than gojo

  • @friendlyneighbor8538
    @friendlyneighbor8538 11 месяцев назад +15

    Sukuna is literally a horrible person, he doesn’t care about being the strongest or any egotistically hierachy than other than tarnishing them (He states this when he wanted to kill gojo and when he had his “becoming human” talk with Jogo. Sukuna will do what he pleases to get what he want and cause havoc because he’s the villain. He even knew Gojo would be a problem within the first episode when he encountered infinity. And since Sukunas prime ability is stealing bodies and creating vessels it’s not fraudulent because it’s his own technique (stealing the body part) He’s just evil asf 💀

    • @farmertiga4983
      @farmertiga4983 11 месяцев назад +2

      He turn himself into a cursed spirit, he is no longer human. You cant compare him to human morality anymore, Mahito says that if you are a cursed spirit, things like tricking, decieving, murdering are equivalent to eating, sleeping and fucking for humans. Curse spirit cant exist without being horrible, it's how they live. Im pretty sure all curse spirit thrives to be like him, but you know, they just not him, only he is him. For curses anyway.

    • @curious834
      @curious834 10 месяцев назад +1

      It is not his innate technique. He literally learnt to do it from kenjaku,smh 🤦

  • @skymasteredits3113
    @skymasteredits3113 11 месяцев назад +2

    Just cuz he stole a technique DOESNT mean he is a fraud

  • @xxdemisucksxx
    @xxdemisucksxx 11 месяцев назад +2

    Sukuna was just an ordinary guy
    Born in an era when Gojo didnt exist

  • @gamingforfun4435
    @gamingforfun4435 11 месяцев назад +2

    Fun fact sukuna didn't know how to counter gojo UV. Kenjaku was the one who told sukuna how to counter it by touching gojo during UV hence in manga sukuna was fighting gojo while making contact with him.

    • @SWEEN_PRODUCTIONZ
      @SWEEN_PRODUCTIONZ 11 месяцев назад +5

      No he never 😂😂😂 he knew cuz he experienced it beforehand in yujis body and deduced wht the condition was. He even said I already experienced it before or did u forget tht.

    • @redstaria963
      @redstaria963 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@SWEEN_PRODUCTIONZkenjaku told him. But he also figured out what the disk expansion itself did when he was in yujis body. Kenjaku just told him how to counter it

  • @mrgar4446
    @mrgar4446 11 месяцев назад +3

    Doesn't Sukuna only have 19 fingers right now?
    I don't wanna meat ride, but iirc Sukuna said Gojo had the last finger, meaning he's not at his absolute max strength yet. Sukuna might not have had to summon Mahagora as early had he had all 20 fingers, especially considering how much each one is worth. Plus, Infinite Void hit Sukuna by a matter of it opening 0.01 seconds faster than Malevolent Shrine, so an extra finger might have made the difference in that domain battle there.
    Nonetheless, still doesn't excuse that Sukuna said he's beat Gojo with Yuji's body in that state, so he still doesn't beat the allegations

    • @blank_ai
      @blank_ai  11 месяцев назад

      Yes and no. Sukuna has only consumed 19 Fingers and his mummy head which makes up for the missing finger. We don't know what would happen if he got his hands on the final finger.

    • @Kill_em_quick
      @Kill_em_quick 11 месяцев назад +5

      Sukuna is at 20f worth of power right now because he ate his own mummified corpse.

    • @rexlapis1075
      @rexlapis1075 11 месяцев назад +11

      @@Kill_em_quick
      He’s 20 finger in terms of curse energy but his last finger holds the soul
      I think sukuna will use his own technique and his form eventually with the curse tools
      Other wise gege wouldn’t have drawed that sukuna for no reason

    • @Vloneburrito
      @Vloneburrito 11 месяцев назад

      This is facts bro but they’re gonna use an excuse watch

  • @karimamin2
    @karimamin2 11 месяцев назад +14

    How can Sukuna be a fraud if he's fighting a god

    • @salah777
      @salah777 11 месяцев назад +5

      A god who was trying to survive the whole fight hhh

    • @samuraitadpole5459
      @samuraitadpole5459 11 месяцев назад

      @@salah777 bro read the manga, sukuna used malevolent shrine in tandem with h2h, gojo wasn't trying to survive

    • @salah777
      @salah777 11 месяцев назад

      @@samuraitadpole5459 Idiot you can't even read 😂😂😂 Gojo lost all domain battles and recovered his burned CT frying his brain to survive

    • @sammydray5919
      @sammydray5919 11 месяцев назад +1

      Because this fraud boasted about being the strongest aka the pinnacle but when the final fight rolled around is now relying on the body and techniques of a 15 year old prodigy. Of course he will be mocked as a fraud lmao

  • @rashnier5566
    @rashnier5566 11 месяцев назад +1

    PLEASE WHERE CAN I FIND THE THUMBNAIL

    • @blank_ai
      @blank_ai  11 месяцев назад

      I made it

  • @infinitedreamsproductionsx
    @infinitedreamsproductionsx 11 месяцев назад +10

    I agree the fight is between Heian Era and current Gojo. As soon as Sukuna got hit by the void the allegations became real.
    However, I don't feel like anything past that will change it because they can't rerun the fight & Gojo's already in a weakened state

  • @goofyisntretarteduare1826
    @goofyisntretarteduare1826 11 месяцев назад +8

    Gojo when he uses 200% output boost with the help of his friends against sukuna : its ok
    Gojo when he pulls reverse curse tecnique out of his ass and masters red and purple out of nowhere against toji fushiguro: its ok
    Sukuna uses a better vessel whos not a prison and gets to use his abilities : Loser lol

    • @blank_ai
      @blank_ai  11 месяцев назад +3

      Your second point is a bad comparison. And your first point is the only rebuttal against the "fraud allegations".

    • @Randomguy-nr6qr
      @Randomguy-nr6qr 10 месяцев назад +8

      Sukuna uses 16 year old boy as shield, calls help from daddy maharaga, and still tries to make fun of the goat but starts to bleed as well. The reason he is a fraud is cause he isn't the strongest of all time.

    • @Xeno1_3
      @Xeno1_3 8 месяцев назад

      @Randomguy-nr6qr he never said he is the strongest Your dad did
      Biggest fraud🗣

    • @chaosking88
      @chaosking88 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@Randomguy-nr6qrupdate: he is the strongest of all time

    • @Randomguy-nr6qr
      @Randomguy-nr6qr 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@chaosking88 Yeah that was such an asspull from gege.

  • @hellkingnyoa
    @hellkingnyoa 11 месяцев назад +25

    Its crazy how the man can't even be villain in his own show Wtf is this jjk community

    • @samuraitadpole5459
      @samuraitadpole5459 11 месяцев назад +10

      So many shonen forget that villains are bad people so everyone forgot as well

    • @Pqihtyieojn12
      @Pqihtyieojn12 11 месяцев назад +7

      Totally. Villains are meant ti he honorable to their words. 🤡 community

    • @MachinaOwl
      @MachinaOwl 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@Pqihtyieojn12 Who cares about honorable? If you're gonna constantly deride your opponent and call them "painfully ordinary" then you damn well better make sure you don't rely on anyone's power but your own when confronting them. Ngl Sukuna deserves the slander for all of the smoke he blows at Gojo lol

    • @SOULAANI_
      @SOULAANI_ 11 месяцев назад +1

      ⁠@@MachinaOwlnot how that works, the better fighter is the one that adapts and overcomes their adversaries regardless of the means. Gojover fans are almost as braindead as gojo himself😭

    • @Bft149
      @Bft149 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@SOULAANI_these be the same people who will rank Toji despite him literally placing as many odds in his favor. But Toji is valid by their standards.
      Gojo fans are so shorts-cited that they themself change every aspect of the story for their narrative.
      Not all of them just the ones that be making Gojo their personality.

  • @scaredpika3063
    @scaredpika3063 11 месяцев назад +1

    Bro voice is deep it can reach the center of the earth

    • @blank_ai
      @blank_ai  11 месяцев назад

      What does this mean😭😭😭

    • @scaredpika3063
      @scaredpika3063 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@blank_ai its a compliment bro No harsh feelings

    • @blank_ai
      @blank_ai  11 месяцев назад

      @@scaredpika3063 Oh dw bro, ik, i just found it funny😂🙏

  • @Telarius
    @Telarius 11 месяцев назад +34

    The fact Sukuna stated "That infinite void domain would be a real pain to deal with" suggests he's actually confident in dealing with it himself, without the use of 10 shadows. So this supports your arguement alot on Sukuna using different tactics to deal with it.

    • @al-rakib365
      @al-rakib365 11 месяцев назад +13

      Bruh there's nothing that can deal with infinite void and limitless besides maharaga........mahoraga actually needs his by a CT 4 times in order to fully adopt to it and out of first 4 domain battle sukuna only cancel out sure hit of infinite void on himself and let megumi tank it 4 times to adopt and by the 5th domain sukuna brings mahoraga to save to break infinite void. Sukuna not only had the advantage of knowing gojo's domain and CT from yuji/megumi's memories and kenjaku aswell a barrierless domain, he's also using 10 shadows to it's full potential in order beat gojo while gojo doesn't even have any knowledge of sukuna's powers.
      One last thing mention that whatever CT sukuna might have isn't stronger than 10 shadow cuz he himself said 10 shadows has the potential to surpass his own power. Read the manga......... He's clearly using any means to beat gojo may that fair or unfair he simply doesn't care about any ethics. That's how he is.

    • @samuraitadpole5459
      @samuraitadpole5459 11 месяцев назад +5

      I don't understand the argument that sukuna would have done something differently, it's pretty obvious but gojo is still gojo, he'd wash sukuna

    • @Lord-Of-The-Mysteries.
      @Lord-Of-The-Mysteries. 11 месяцев назад +11

      ​@@al-rakib365the problem with that statement is that we don't know everything Sukuna has so it is ruled invalid by me, Godzilla-sama

    • @white00joe
      @white00joe 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@kinggodzilla9278 the same argument can be said for Gojo. No teleportation or a maximum technique? Not even something like Azure Glow. Gojo has basically been using barrier techniques the entire fight.

    • @Lord-Of-The-Mysteries.
      @Lord-Of-The-Mysteries. 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@white00joe I agree, that's why I am taking a side in this until every power is shown

  • @Telarius
    @Telarius 11 месяцев назад +6

    What i dont undrestand is how this is 20 fingers Sukuna, mathmatically, since Sukuna ate his own body and is "20 fingers strength", it dosent actually make sense, because hypothetically, if he ate the remaining finger, he'd be eating more than 100% of his own power? Which can only lead to 1 logical conclusion, he's not as strong as he truely would be at 100% fingers.
    I see no other alternative, infact, i think because the fingers are exponential he could be hypothetically alot stronger. Also, the fraud allegations make no sense to me, he's a dirty fighter, who fkin cares, "strength" is whoever is on top, dosent matter how you get there, if you're dead, you're dead, gg, complain on twitter. Sukuna got to the top by getting there anymeans nessicary, so him abusing others to gain advantage makes no dif to me.
    I made this post b4 watching your video fully im at like 10 sec, will watch now.
    Also subbed

    • @blank_ai
      @blank_ai  11 месяцев назад +4

      Hey man, I appreciate you dropping a sub, its really encouraging. I aslo agree with you regarding the Sukuna fingers. If the mummy head could make up for "1 finger of strength", then what about the actual remaining finger? If he ate it, would be stronger? And if so, that would mean he's not at his full power at the moment. I don't know if we'll ever get confirmation on this but it is completely reasonable if someone believes that Sukuna isn't at full power.

    • @samuraitadpole5459
      @samuraitadpole5459 11 месяцев назад +1

      That's so wrong, Sukuna is arguably 21 fingers but he admit he's at least at 100% so if he eats the finger it'll probably be a 115% boost

    • @Telarius
      @Telarius 11 месяцев назад

      @@samuraitadpole5459 No thats not how it works. Ill explain.
      You are 100. You split yourself into 21. means each finger holds about 4.7% of Sukuna's soul, or power. (However we know his power is multiplicitive) Aka, 2 fingers isn't x2 as strong as 1 finger. But many-many times stronger. A jump from 10-15 Sukuna was a bigger increase than the jump from 1-10.
      That means, you cannot no matter what become stronger than you were originally seperated. It's simply impossible. The only logical conclusion can be that current Sukuna is lying about his strength being "21 finger strength." For who knows why. But he definetly is. Since if he eats the remaining finger, THEN he'll be at 100%.
      Look at this backwards, if he ate the finger first, most likely he'd still not be at fulls strength, and we'd realize eating his old mummy will be required as well. Since his mummified remains accidentally became a cursed object, even Kenjacku didn't know about .
      Meaning no matter how you put it, Sukuna isn't at his full power right now.
      And with how we know how fingers work, its multiplicitive, meaning if he eats the next finger, he won't just become "1 finger" stronger, he'll most likely become multiple times stronger. 2-5x or maybe even more .

    • @samuraitadpole5459
      @samuraitadpole5459 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@Telarius so you think sukuna for some reason lied about being full power when he has zero reason to lie about such a thing? I'm sure I'm misinterpreting because you'd have to explain why sukuna of all people would lie. I understand his fingers are multipliers but if his corpse can make up for a single digit that implies he's at 100% plus I think he's stronger than his heian era form since the CE had time to mature

  • @grine0012
    @grine0012 11 месяцев назад +10

    if sukuna is being called a fraud for using abilities that are bot his own, wouldn't that mean characters like asta, naruto, deku, fluffy, shiggy, and many others be frauds too

    • @blank_ai
      @blank_ai  11 месяцев назад +8

      I don't see the correlation. Nonetheless, like I mentioned, the reason people are calling him a fraud is because of the context. Everyone expected 20F Heian Era Sukuna to fight Gojo, not 20F Meguna. Hence the "fraud allegations". Regardless, this doesn't take away from the fact that Sukuna is formidable and would push Gojo even if he didn't have the Ten Shadows.

    • @flipjo
      @flipjo 11 месяцев назад +5

      He means swaping body is also ability of sukuna, which everyone should not mind

    • @OMGVLS
      @OMGVLS 11 месяцев назад +8

      Goku is a fraud, too, then. The dude has 0 of his own techniques

    • @salah777
      @salah777 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@blank_aiif don't see it then you're an idiot 😂😂😂

    • @blackfriezaonyocrib.4418
      @blackfriezaonyocrib.4418 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@OMGVLSlmfao right on point only thing he has his own is dragon fist but it is non canon lmfao

  • @dec1m8
    @dec1m8 11 месяцев назад +4

    Has sukuna eaten all the fingers yet?

    • @blank_ai
      @blank_ai  11 месяцев назад

      No, only 19 of them and a mummy head

    • @dereck9736
      @dereck9736 11 месяцев назад

      @@blank_ai imagine the 20th finger is like a emense boost for sukuna

  • @opticalfrain7667
    @opticalfrain7667 Год назад +11

    The allegations seem valid right now but I feel like they wont stick , I got a bad feeling gojo gonna get got for the sake of plot

    • @blank_ai
      @blank_ai  Год назад

      Just gotta wait and see

    • @apimpnamedslickback5936
      @apimpnamedslickback5936 11 месяцев назад +6

      Nah the allegations will stick no matter what. Gojo dying is irrelevant to the argument because the original argument was a sukuna vs gojo. Not sukuna + megumi + mahoraga vs gojo.

    • @samuraitadpole5459
      @samuraitadpole5459 11 месяцев назад +1

      @apimpnamedslickback5936 even though disagree with fraudkuna, the argument is solid

  • @LivtheMorrigan
    @LivtheMorrigan 11 месяцев назад +8

    honestly i still think that sukuna is trying to push gojo to be the strongest he can be, so that he can crush him at that point in time. he has to get everyones hopes up to their limit before proving that none of them can ever stand up to him

    • @khotunkhan3950
      @khotunkhan3950 11 месяцев назад +2

      Blah blah

    • @Vloneburrito
      @Vloneburrito 11 месяцев назад +2

      This is valid point cause I don’t think gege is making gojo the mvp and glory of this battle for no reason

    • @Xeno1_3
      @Xeno1_3 8 месяцев назад

      @khotunkhan3950 let him cook cuz he right asf

  • @conradoumarou8316
    @conradoumarou8316 11 месяцев назад

    sukuna is now sakura

  • @Randomguy-nr6qr
    @Randomguy-nr6qr 10 месяцев назад +3

    Weak curses attack in group. Fraudkuna is a weak curse compared to the goat.

    • @blank_ai
      @blank_ai  10 месяцев назад

      😂😂

    • @krisD88
      @krisD88 10 месяцев назад +2

      Aged like milk huh

  • @wesley3447
    @wesley3447 6 месяцев назад

    Sukuna could care less if you all think hes a fraud. He wants to be deafeated. He doesnt want to die naturally or allow someone to kill him. He says so himself. He also doesnt give a damn what people think of him. In his eyes he IS the strongest. He does what HE deems is best for HIM. he dont gaf about you or your opinion of him. But as a bad guy lover lets spit facts.
    Fact 1. Sukuna finnesed everyone mental game. Smartest.
    Fact 2. Sukuna learned that love is pointless and you have to look after numero uno.
    Fact 3. Sukuna believes the weak are not worth protecting. "You're weak yet cling to life./You should be grovelling in misery." I butchered the ladder quote probably.
    Fact 4. Sukuna ALLOWED UNLIMITED VOID TO HIT SO HE COULD ADAPT MAHORAGA TO IT
    Fact 5. Sukuna learned to bypass limitless he has to cut eternity itself, ergo "fuck everything that ever has and will exist in that direction" and you dont think he wouldnt eventually come to that conclusion without mahoraga is hilarious. To me at least.
    Fact 6. We still aint see him go 100% Fact 6. (2) We've just seen him use other peoples abilities to their fullest..... Ergo megumi could have bodied gojo if he was compitent with his own shit.
    Fact 6. (3) He beat Mahoraga.
    Fact 7. He killed the fear of volcanos erupting with fire. Make it make sense.
    Fact 7. (2) he does show compassion towards those who he deems are worthy of it. Often after defeating them so most do not witness or even see it as compassion.
    Thats all i can think of off top but even if i couldnt think of one...... Gojoke (i gotta come up with a funny name for the other guy but i do rather like him he was dope) is still dead. 🤪

  • @Davinki651
    @Davinki651 11 месяцев назад +6

    It's interesting sukuna is taking all the heat for being a fraud when for one, gojo started the fight with a surprise attack amped hollow purple, only to talk shit and say sukuna is the challenger. Thats like jumping from around the corner and sucker punching someone with their hands in their pockets 😭. Secondly, sukuna already had gojo screwed without the 10 S when he broke gojos domain multiple times. Gojo had to bend the natural rules of jujutsu and gamble destroying his brain so he can get more chances to use unlimited void (UV) on sukuna. If gojos brain gave out before he could hit sukuna with UV, he would have to fight sukuna in malevolent shrine without his limitless technique, so sukuna with his own abilities and skill had gojo pushed in a corner fairly early in the fight. Im not claiming who wins or loses, and both sides have done fraudulent things, it just seems weird that sukuna is the only one getting the fraud card when gojo got an unofficial start and bent the rules to get do overs, lmao

  • @Davinki651
    @Davinki651 11 месяцев назад +8

    Ppl saying sukuna needs 10 S to stand a chance against gojo is insane considering WE DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT SUKUNAS OG TECHNIQUE IS, exactly like u said in the vid 💀💀 Sukunas choice to take on UV with 10 S, specifically with mahoraga is so he can strip gojo of his trump card effectively and make him seem powerless, as implied by his dialogue as of 230. If he didnt have 10 S, he has other unnamed techniques he can still dip into, lolol. That's like saying he couldn't beat yorozus domain expansion without mahoraga, lmao

  • @Dstryrr
    @Dstryrr 11 месяцев назад +1

    The fradulent claims come from people meatriding Gojo and not understanding Sukuna's mindset. All Sukuna values is power; nothing else. There is no room for pride for someone like Sukuna because fights are all he lives for. His mentality is completely different from someone like Yuji in that he would rather just kill off anyone weaker than him instead of allowing them to exist in his presence. I wouldnt be surprised if Sukuna could have beaten Gojo without Megumi's body, but only wanted Megumi's body in the first place because someone as weak as Megumi would only waste the Ten Shadows/Mahoraga. Then according to Sukuna's logic it's only right to take if for himself. Some people say "oh he would have lost without mahoraga" as if Sukuna hadn't beaten Gojo in every other clash before then, and the entire time he was forced to stick with Cleave/Dismantle because he wanted Mahoraga's wheel to adapt. Ultimately the fraud accusations just come down to how much bias people have for Gojo and that's it. If you want to call Sukuna a fraud for stealing Megumi's body you may as well call villains like Madara, Aizen, Majin Buu, or any other villain that uses some form of power that isn't entirely their own

  • @dipole5539
    @dipole5539 11 месяцев назад +12

    Given how the fight is going it seems like gege is intentionally trying to give sukuna a bad rep . But if you see it narratively this shows why he is called the fallen one and I really like this . But straight up calling him fraud is wrong sukuna has earned the title of the strongest in the history of jjk and is proven by touching the untouchable . Even with all those hacks sukuna almost gave a fatal blow to gojo , gege also ass pulled to make gojo more OP at different times (shadow clone jutsu and no explanation on how he did it ) also if I'm being honest limitless is hard carrying gojo (just give it a thought without limitless gojo would be damaged by dismantle in h2h combat just like how he uses his technique blue and red to wrap space and toss sukuna around even with all these hacks sukuna and gojo were evenly matched
    The only way for gojo to win is IV or purple to the face other than that I can't see gojo winning

    • @blank_ai
      @blank_ai  11 месяцев назад +1

      I understand your point. I think the cloning will be explained next chapter or I at least hope it will. Personally, I'd say that Sukuna has only won his domain clashes and the only reason he is still alive right now is because of Mahoraga. Without Maho, he'd be in dire circumstances right now.

    • @jovanidivine5606
      @jovanidivine5606 11 месяцев назад +4

      Sukuna tamed the untamed Mahoraga that no 10 shadows user ever did . That’s a great feat on its own , but he’s called a fraud for using it. The writing is simply to make Sukuna look bad and Gojo look good .

    • @Prodigal450
      @Prodigal450 11 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@blank_aii really can't understand what all you content creators aren't seeing. Why can't u understand that Sukuna purposely put himself at a disadvantage because he wanted mahoraga to adapt? Did you not see when Sukuna destroyed Gojo's domain from outside when gojo flipped the conditions for his domain? He did that so mahoraga could adapt. Didn't you see gojo himself asking why he didn't? During the 3rd clash do you think Sukuna would've gotten damaged like he did if he didn't try ro have mahoraga adapt? He would've kept destroying his domain every time with just one domain expansion and thats when goko would've been in trouble because his brain wouldve been fried by then. This is why an open barrier domain is divine. Also, Sukuna still hasn't revealed his curse technique. My god just thinking about it u start to realize that Sukuna and kenjaku are godly for real

    • @blank_ai
      @blank_ai  11 месяцев назад +2

      @@Prodigal450 And why did Sukuna want Mahoraga to adapt? Sukuna clearly thought that it'd be of benefit to him if Mahoraga adapted to Gojo otherwise he wouldn't have bothered. He obviously thought that would be better than just trying to continuously destroy Gojos Domain and that it would eventually put him at an advantage. You assume that the fight would've gone the same way had Sukuna not have had access to Maho. The bottom line is this, Sukuna is a highly skilled tactical fighter who recognises the danger of Unlimited Void and rightfully tried to get rid of it. Without maho, if UV had hit him, it would've placed him in dire circumstance.

    • @Prodigal450
      @Prodigal450 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@blank_ai what is this argument? Tell me, how else would Gojo kill Sukuna without his uv? We saw everything gojo tried up to this point not work. The real problem would've been infinity since nothing could touch gojo because of it. But what's also crazy is the fact that if Sukuna didn't have mahoraga and he destroyed Gojo's domain, he could've used whatever unknown ct he has to kill gojo because Gojo's infinity would be on cool down after domain expansion

  • @rexlapis1075
    @rexlapis1075 11 месяцев назад +2

    He said it last chapter he didn’t use anything else but the ct granted to his domain . So he hasn’t used it because of infinity
    So perhaps his own technique is a lot stronger than 10 shadows in terms of power and better at dealing with other things except infinity ,
    Like he could have nukes for all we know I mean he technically does with the flame arrow even at 15 fingers , it’s mentioned in the fanbook the arrow is more powerful than his slashes
    It’s so potent and hot the moment it grazes you, you would instantly erased down to your bone marrow but that’s not his true technique either so whatever he has , has to be op
    Also a lot of times when Sukuna got the shorter end of the straw it was all partially on purpose since he’s slowly sponging off the limitless to adapt , and gojo noticed why sukuna’s been fighting so risky and it doesn’t make sense he’s been leading the fight for 3 minutes, and gojo been using blue overlapping his ce fist, and sukuna is fighting with just raw strength and amplification and he’s still fighting gojo pretty evenly and yeh sometimes he does get dragged by blue this and that but to sukuna’s credit it does no damage to him . Gojo dragged sukuna , sukuna dodged , gojo tries to stomp on sukuna , sukuna front flips and tries to kick gojo , gojo uses after images , sukuna catches gojo and sends him flying with a punch , meaning obviously they are near equal in h2h, also is it only me who noticed that sukuna griped metal, but didn’t it already spin 1 times in the shadows so maybe sukuna is not telling gojo , so maybe there is only 2 spins left. Sukuna could had destroyed gojo’s domain from the inside but he didn’t . In fact he let gojo hold the advantaged he can whale the limitless without marohaga sukuna would had dealed with this completely differently, sorry this is too long. Also he could had chose to destroy his domain from the inside , gojo said sukuna could had easily destroyed his domain from the inside but sukuna stubbornly destroyed it from the outside because he wants to adapt so if sukuna wasn’t stubborn he could had always won the domain clash which is why confused gojo , like let’s be real if he didn’t have 10 shadows he would not be fighting Like this . Also again let’s not be disengenous sukuna and gojo are clearly on par with each other without 10 shadows , and we still don’t know sukuna’s curse technique
    Also sukuna is 20 finger in terms of curse energy but his finger holds the soul.

    • @Prodigal450
      @Prodigal450 11 месяцев назад

      Exactly gojo cant kill Sukuna because of the last finger

  • @asuraofwrath
    @asuraofwrath 11 месяцев назад

    sukuna has been dominating this fight aside from the domain battles sukuna hasnt lost any ground to gojo in the slightest while still missing a finger and aside from his domain and his slashing techniques and 10 shadows once he hasnt used any cursed techniques since the fight started he is very tactal and mahgoras atapdation is the easiest way to by pass infinite littarelly the only reason gojo is so much more op then everyone else is because of limitless plus infinity get rid of one he's suddenly much weaker and very killable we also have yet to see what made ten shadows so appealing to sukuna other then mahogora which he didn't need after stealing its ring

  • @user-bq8zq5ic8v
    @user-bq8zq5ic8v 11 месяцев назад +2

    I think Sukuna make his calculations and decided to use he body swapping ability to kill Gojo had Megumi not exist in the show I sure he would have cooked up another plan after all Sukuna is very old and has alot of knowledge.

  • @wantedraider6007
    @wantedraider6007 Год назад +9

    Gojo slams the king of frauds and owns the entire haien era

    • @blank_ai
      @blank_ai  Год назад +1

      Very strong views i see ;)

    • @AJ-ry8qd
      @AJ-ry8qd 11 месяцев назад

      🤡

    • @rexlapis1075
      @rexlapis1075 11 месяцев назад +4

      We just don’t know right now
      On how strong heian era sukuna is
      Sukuna barley used anything from his own arsenal

  • @ericb8241
    @ericb8241 11 месяцев назад +7

    “goJo sTARteD iT wItH a SuRpriSe aTtAck” sooo, something that lasted for like 2 seconds and he knew wouldnt work. Meanwhile, sukuna has:
    A:admitted he’s been trying to adapt to infinity the entire time. HE ADMITTED TO PLANNING THIS WHOLE FIGHT AROUND MEGUMI’s ABILITIES NOT HIS OWN. He’s lost multiple times already without memories from his hosts/mahoraga
    B: admitted himself infinite void is a problem for him
    C: at this rate has taken more damage than gojo. Gojo has cuts all over sure, while sukuna lost half his face twice, heart twice, brain damage, taken 100+ hits from gojo while landing 0 besides sure hits from his domain .

    • @oz9220
      @oz9220 11 месяцев назад +7

      All of what you said are correct except for one thing.
      Sukuna acquiring info is not something he planned on doing.
      He was stucking in Yuji's body unwittingly, and just made the most out of it by watching Gojo fight within Yuji.
      It is like saying Gojo could only destroy Sukuna's domain because he was in the prison realm. But he did not choose to be there but made the most of it by analyzing the space using his eyes.

    • @ericb8241
      @ericb8241 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@oz9220 regardless if he planned it, he’s using the knowledge, then talking crap after any slight advantage lol.

    • @oz9220
      @oz9220 11 месяцев назад +5

      @@ericb8241 Still not good point for him being a fraud . How does using informstion he had accessed to, bad?

    • @badassproductions4734
      @badassproductions4734 11 месяцев назад +3

      ​@ericb8241 trying to disregard the surprise attack is disengenous cause if gojo even survives a hit from the fire arrow without limitless y'all would bury sukuna in memes. Gojo also saying an amped version to his strongest attack can't kill sukuna is kinda blatantly acknowledging how strong sukuna is. Him being able to survive multiple death blows from gojo isn't an anti feat.
      You're also massively downplaying what sukuna did in his domain, gojo didn't simply get some cuts, he almost got his neck chopped off and gotinced so much he bleed from head to toe and lost an eye. There's also the fact that when they're domain clashing gojo's the only one with a barrier so he was getting domain amped.

    • @CertainlyCynical
      @CertainlyCynical 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@oz9220just more gojo 🤡fanboy takes

  • @Prodigal450
    @Prodigal450 11 месяцев назад

    Without 10s Sukuna wouldve destroyed his domain 5 times, cause him to get brain damage, and kill him because he can't break his domain from inside as well as sukuna not giving him the chance to even try. Infinity is the major problem not unlimited void

    • @faizissa8617
      @faizissa8617 11 месяцев назад

      Unlimited void is the problem. Sukuna said so

  • @confused4069
    @confused4069 11 месяцев назад +2

    Funny how Sukuna fans are coping with statements like
    "Smart 🤓 move" "tactical fighter "
    While ignoring how sukuna was portrayed throughout the series, sukuna throughout the series was never portrayed as a Batman, he was portrayed as the hulk