S10 V8 Swap
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- This S10 had a 400 small block in it that went bad so I cleaned up a 305 to replace it. The 400 had long tube headers which I never liked for various reasons so I switch to a set of OEM truck manifolds. This video outlines the changes necessary when using the parts selected.
This video has steadily continued to get views since it’s release 7 months ago, but over the last few days it has really taken off, please don’t hesitate to leave a comment or ask a question. Thanks to all.
Maybe I missed it. Did you cut the firewall at all to create room
@@richardross119 I did work the firewall back a bit to create more clearance for the distributor. The truck already had a V8 in it when it came to me, there was some work done to the heater housing but I’m not sure if it was really necessary. My son folded the pinch weld were the fire wall joins the transmission hump on his. I’ve never heard of anyone cutting.
On the next episode of Wild West Garage, watch as Morgan swaps a massive 30 ton inline 12 cylinder marine engine into a 3 windo coupe!
Glad to see the analog-rythm babk beay youtuber thingamabob showing this vid some exposure, Morgan. It's well earned! AWESOME SWAP! Very cool truck!
Nice clean install. People always shun the 305, but they were reliable small blocks that can really be woken up with some heads/ headwork and a cam. By no means a super horsepower maker, but very good in a small light body.
Thank you, I’ve had a couple of negative comments regarding installing a 305. The video is not necessarily about installing a 305, the information applies to most any displacement small block. And I agree the 305 can make decent power for cheap and it’s perfectly adequate for an S10 with next to no traction
305's came in so many GM cars in the mid to late 70's and early 80's most of us just kept messing with them until they broke or died of high mileage. Most of them had Rochester Quadrajets on them so you could do a simple intake swap, keep your old carb and HEI and shave 20 or 30 pounds.
The reason for hate on the 305's isvbecause they had the cams for a lot of them manufactured in Mexico, and the billits supplied wete as soft as butter. A lot of people got burned on that, and are mad to this day at Mexico and/or "The 305 Engine as a whole." True story. GM messed up, and that's how I personally see it.
How well do the manifolds fit?
If GM had done a factory v8 s-10 it would have probably been a TBI 305 with a 700R4 or a t-5
Hey Morgan. Good video. When I built my Fargo, I was lucky and found manifolds to fit the frame. It was a 307 SBC out of a 1968 Camaro going into a 1954 Dodge Fargo
Mines a 4x4 ext cab. Fortunately the previous owner did a body lift so I had alot more options. Also, installing the engine without the waterpump makes things alot easier. It's only 4 bolts and very easy to install after. A radiator out of a Jimmy, or bravado with a 4.3 and ac can handle the heat from a small block Fairley well.
My son did a 4x4 conversion with a 5 speed from a newer half ton. We built the oil pan by cutting the sump off a 4.3 pan and welding it to the V8 pan. Thanks for watching.
@@WildWestGarage that's how I did mine. Used the nv2500 that came with the 4.3. It's strong enough for off road and the flywheel fits the 5.7. Ls is in the future as soon as I find a complete, running donor.
Nothing like turning wrenches on your SBC S10 in the Garage doing the work yourself!
Iam going to do a vortex 350 this video helped me so much
Glad I could help
Love it i have built an put a lot of sbc engines in every model of s10 an s blazers ive had many of them over the years very fun trucks ive done manifolds an headers i liked the headers better on power steer models i used 4.3 water pump an all there stock brackets an pullys on my non power steer ones i liked the 86 c10 pullys an brackets brings back good old memories
Hey Charles, I actually haven’t done a V8 swap from scratch. All of the trucks I’ve worked on already had swaps done. I’m just the guy that fixes all the problems after the fact. The 4.3 stuff makes perfect sense. Thanks for your insight. I made a little more progress on your pipe yesterday.
The 305 is Wonderful In APPLICATION. It makes all the right sounds. Has a STRONG low speed torque, and can deliver 20 MPG. Streetability is important.
@9:12 That looks better than most cobble ups I have seen
Looking to build a 383 stroker from a 97 350 vortex this summer . Thanks for your videos
Very nice! I remember having a 305 in a in an early 70's Jeep CJ5 when I was younger. I've been wanting to do an S10 engine swap for some time. My friend had a new S10 back in 91. It was 2wd with the 4.3 and manual transmission. That little joker would boogie! Unfortunately, he hit a hog, overcorrected and ran off the road! Luckily he was wearing a seatbelt. He was alright, but the S10 was totaled. Anyways, my Uncle has several various engines in his shop. One of which is a 327. Can't remember what it came out of, but I don't think it would take much to get running again. If I find a deal on a decent S10, I might think about doing something similar. Thank you for the informative video! It definitely has me thinking about getting the project started.
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The 327 would add some punch, the 305 in this truck was just disassemble cleaned up and put back with new gaskets. There are probably better ways to do the belt setup, I was just working with what I had. If you have any questions don’t hesitate to ask. Thanks for watching.
@@WildWestGarage Hey, I really appreciate that. I'm all about working with what you have as well. Imo, it's nice seeing vehicles on the road that you don't see every day. It definitely breaks up the monotony of seeing the same overpriced cookie cutter vehicles that are everywhere.
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sure it ain't a 325.2 ROFLMOAO
As far as manifolds..78 thru 80 V8 Malibu over the plugs work best..
The mounted onto the water pump. There was a long boat went through it and screwed in that bolt with the threads drilled out.. that was my favorite configuration with power steering pumps. You may not have the same water pump.
This truck has the short pump with no mounting points
just watched a video of a guy pulling a 305 out of an s10 to install a 400,now im watching the reverse....i think its time for bed
Thanks for watching, have a good sleep
Looks like a neat but very doable project. Nice job!
Thanks
Your garage is very put together
It’s a work in progress without much progress since I started work in it and filling it up with stuff. My advice to anyone building a shop, finish it inside before you start using it. Thanks for watching.
Nice Job Morgan I have a 95' Sonoma all stock V6 "Collector Plates" your truck looks sweet!
Buckin sent me!! Just going back and checking your channel! My kinda stuff A! Semper fidelis
Why would anyone waste their time and money putting either a 305 or 307 into anything?
305's are plentiful, the 307 not as much. You can do a lot with a 305 if you work it right. And if you drop a 305 or 307 into something and do it right then any other small block swap is easy.
Dave Schmidt ,
A small block 307 is a 327 crank in a 283 block and can make 300hp and is nothing like a 305 .
The 305 is nothing but a boat anchor !
I never had to beat anything my 350 went in smooth
sweet looking truck and awesome looking motor going into it, great job mate
awesome job .peace an love from scotland stu
had headers on 350 4 bolt main in my s15 jimmy wrapped around the steering shaft
Yes, that’s what this truck had, I hated them.
Looks good. I’m planning to buy an S10 and swap a V8 into it. I was thinking about an LS but I really prefer the looks of the older small blocks and everyone is putting LS engines into everything. Do you think it would be easier, harder or about the same to do it with the older, pre malaise era small block?
I noticed that you didn’t have to tear the whole front of the truck off to do yours.
I’m not a big fan of the LS look and I don’t have any experience with them but I think there probably a better engine. The LS swap comes with a lot of wiring and intake plumbing so for that reason I would say the old school SB would be an easier swap.
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Thanks for the reply. I’m inclined to agree. Especially on an older one. The LS swap is pretty involved. There are wiring kits for some S10s that plug into a computer and allow you to keep your accessories. They’re expensive though.
@@vladtheimpala5532 that’s the other thing about a LS swap it can get expensive. The truck in this video had a small block in it when it came to my shop so it made things pretty easy for me, but the replacement engine I put in only cost me a gasket set,a timing chain, and 20 bucks in exhaust tubing. The 305 was given to me and it just needed cleaning up basically. There were some other parts needed but it was mostly stuff I had laying around or could be found cheaply.
sick truck... doing a swap on my 86 right now, got a 454 with 30k kilometres out of a 76 chevy 3x3 just exploring other peoples builds
A big block?!? That will be insane and a tight fit. It has been done but I wouldn’t recommend it unless you just want to fry tires all day long. My 56 year old brain tells me you would have more fun in the long run with a small block. I had a 76 3+3 with the big rat, great truck. Thanks for watching.
@@WildWestGarage You ain't even joking
Kieth will be happy !!
He is, thanks
If you would have used the long water pump you could have mounted the steering pump to the water pump like normal and saved yourself alot of work and also used exhaust manifolds off of a 83-89 Camaro...much easier...fit perfect....IV built 10 of them
Thanks
What vehicle did those factory manifolds come off of?
They were very common on trucks in the 70s and 80s and some cars too I think
What did you do for the speedometer?
@@jayswisher575 This truck already had a small block in it when it came to me. I just replaced the engine and made some changes. The truck has a Turbo 350 and I’m pretty sure the speedometer was cable driven, it’s been a while since I’ve done any work on it.
I have done a v8 swap n my hearders are touch the bottom frame . Thing is my dad told i didnt have to change the motor mounts & the mounts are welded in. So will i have to pull the motor back out change the mounts so i can get my exhaust work done
So do you have tubular headers? This truck had tubular headers and they were tight. Without seeing your setup it’s hard for me to give advice. Can you put shim plates anywhere to raise the engine up?
Hi nice what kind of starter are you using?
When this truck came to me it had a 400 in it with long tube headers. There wasn’t much room for a starter so it also had and still does have one the gear reduction mini starters, I’m not sure of the brand. I think a small OEM starter would fit no problem with the GM manifold I used.
Did you have to machine your firewall or your floorboard in anyway for the swap ?
This truck already had a V8 in it when it came to me but yes the fire wall was altered and also the heater housing. I did a little more work behind the distributor. You might have to hammer back the flange where the firewall meets the transmission hump. If you’re doing a swap be prepared to put the engine in and out of the truck to get things right.
Did you have to cut anything to get that V8 to fit?
Going to be starting my swap soon what motor and block mounts did you use I have the 4.3 kit from speedway
This truck already had a V8 in it when it came to me so I don’t know we’re the mount kit came from
Yee Haw!!
I'm v8 swaping a 4wd s10 and I wanna relocate the oil filter any ideas on what kit will work?
I used the Earl’s block adapter because with the spin on style you have no control where the ports line up once it’s tightened. This truck came with a kit similar to the Transdapt offering which I think would work fine for you.
What kind of transmission you have
It’s a turbo 350. I love your last name
What year are those exhaust manifolds?
I don’t know the exact year of the ones I used but I think they where used from the mid 70s all the way through the 80s. The ones with the bars between the mounting points are the ones to get, the open ones can warp and put the bolt holes out of alignment.
What trans you running or will the stock one work ?I’m thinking on 305 swapping mine has the 4.3
This one has a Turbo 350. Any small block will bolt up to your stock transmission.
You can get your pulleys and all mounts from summit racing 129 bucks made things a lot easier
Question what did you do with the drive train?
I didn’t do any drivetrain work on this truck, it already had a V8 swap when it came to me I just replaced the dead 400 with the 305. This truck has a Turbo 350 and a beefed up 10 bolt rear axle. A 10 bolt with the right modifications can handle a fare amount of power, especially in such a light vehicle which does put a lot of strain on it. Most 4 cylinder trucks will have very low gears so I would recommend going up. I worked on another truck with a stock 305 that could only rev to 5000 rpm, limited by the cam. I swapped out the 4:11 gears with 2:73s and it turned it into a rocket ship. The low gears really held the truck back , it was at max rpm at around 55 mph.?
Was hoping to find the OG drive train getting harder and harder to find the factory stuff thanks for answering
wrong water pump you need one from a 70 Chevy
I dig it,
will a 305 bolt on to a stock trans? i have 93 sonoma with a 4,3L
Yes, a 4.3 is basically a 350/5.7 minus 2 cylinders
@@WildWestGarage ITS JUST A LITTLE BIGER IN SOME SPOTS? THANK YOU
what water pump hose to rad and top hose did you use?
I don’t know the part numbers, the truck already had a V8 in it when it came to me, so I just re used what was there.
@@WildWestGarage How long is it if you can find out for me, trying figure mine out
@@jonscriffignano the truck belongs to a friend, I’ll see what I can do.
@@WildWestGarage Thank you!
@@jonscriffignano the top flex hose is 20 inches and the bottom one is molded and about 20 inches
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A 305? I'd rather keep my 262 v6. It's lighter and probably had more torque
I have hedman headers for v8 swap
What size flexplate
It’s the big one for the staggered bolt pattern starter but it’s got a mini powermaster starter
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I got truck on my channel
only if people knew how much easier t would be to do a 2 inch body lift then drop motor and tranny
What headers do you have?