We Need To Talk About The Studio Build (I f*cked up)
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Thanks for all the praise, my friend. The whole experience was incredible!! LOTS of long hours and hard work, but even more fun and laughter with all of you guys. Myself and my guys thank you, Tilly, Jimmy and Chris for this amazing experience.
Thanks Shane! We can’t wait to see y’all again and finish this build up strong!
Well done sir
Shane and his crew seem like really good dudes! 👍
Props for the great work!
great job Shane and team.
Hey Rhett, one simple piece of advice before buttoning up the walls…
Think about running plastic chase in the ceilings and the appropriate walls to make snaking any cabling or data lines, co-ax , easier in the future…. It cuts down on damage opening walls and gets you from point to point without boring holes in any framing.
As a carpenter for a very large laboratory on Long Island, every renovation we did involved future proofing and was never a wasted effort. Plastic tube chases are inexpensive and certainly worth it. Good luck with the rest of the build. Be well.
I'm a pro studio builder and I'd back you up on your good advice, with an additional observation: lay 3 or 4 color-coded pull-thru cords inside your pipe chases. It saves fishing them through later, and means you're ready to pull extra cable as needed.
@@robertmaune8557
Good call.
Great advice guys, thank you!
Leave a length of twine in your chases or conduit, so you can pull new wires in future. Unlike me, try to always put twine in with the new wires so you have it available down the road.
@@RhettShull And label all of your wires, so you know what is what at each end!
Good contractors are very hard to find for remodels and non-cookie cutter work. You found a great crew to help you.
I couldn't agree more, I love these guys.
Totally - can do attitude matters so much for contractors. Looks like you found your go-to guy.
I don’t think they are that hard to find(I’m in Canada so maybe it’s different) my experience is that customers who want bespoke building, framing and finishing aren’t prepared to pay for what that type of job costs. In fact they think that they’re one off build should be in the ball park of cookie cutter builds and this is a giant hurdle. Custom, bespoke work by talented master crafts people costs money with good reason and on top of that material costs are at an all time high.
@@RhettShull It's azing how many "Rip and Skip" artists are out there! I'm glad Shane was able and willing to help!
@@davidhaworth7152 It might vary by location. I spent 14 years slowly remodeling an old house. I did about 75% of the work myself. Every time I needed a contractor it was like pulling teeth to get someone to show up. It wasn’t about budget or complexity. It was just getting a contractor to come look at the work and tell me what it would cost. The experience continues on our new house.
Hey Rhett, so this video sure brings back memories of my renovation career.
I have in fact built a studio for a gentleman who was part of the Telatoon network early 2000s.
Great communication great crew.
It's incredibly difficult work to pull off, so far it looks great. Sometimes slower is faster on these kinds of projects. It will be a very rewarding experience in the end. That Kentucky crew is Gangster!
You da man Rhett! Keep doing what you do man. Love the content. Looking forward to the studio being ready to record!
Man, can't wait to see the finished space, it's gonna be awesome!
Y'know, I ran into a hell of a bug while I was building my own home studio ( a log smaller than yours, it's only a "sound proofed" bedroom in my basement which has a control room on the other side of the wall). I basically built the entire double-frame myself, and the room is a "room in a box". I have a nice quadruple-paned glass to see inside, double gyproc thickness, resilient channels, roxû everywhere...
But I started about 5 years ago and I'm not done with the paint yet. Won't get into details but I had a personal issue that slowed me down quite a bit. I recently got back on track, and am about to finish the entire place. All I have left to do is the low-voltage part, which I can't wait to see on your episode list.
Keep the faith my friend, your studio will eventually be done, a lot quicker than mine!
Rhett is this you replying?
You might want to keep an access panel where they used the 4" rubber couplings for the section they cut out just in case of possible future leak or seepage issues.
Hey Rhett,
If you know (or at least have a good idea where) the video files would've been, you might be able to recover them still with a little digital forensic file recovery magic - that is if they were accidentally deleted or something...I didn't quite get what exactly happened to them from the video.
Keep up the good work, man! I just started getting back into playing again after a very long hiatus and this channel / you have been helping me tremendously!
All the best.
Rhett, I'm an HVAC instructor at Hopkinsville Community College and am totally interested in the install of your hvac. It would mix my job and my hobby perfectly. Looking forward to the video for that!
What a tremendous job all of those guys have done so far, you were so lucky to have them come and help you out on the build. Best of luck for the rest of it. 👍
hey rhett, great video!!! i know the feeling of stress that comes with this kind of renovation/build...i completely gutted and re-did my grandmother's 100 yr old farmhouse 10yrs ago, i was working for a contractor at the time so that made things easier...many sleepless nights thinking about many, many construction issues...cheers brother and great work!!!
Nothing cooler than seeing pros do what they do best….especially down to earth dudes such as Shane’s crew.
I can just imagine the drywall scope. It’s gunna be massive. Multiple layers of Insualtion sealing, and multiple layers of sound Board, fire taping and more drywall and taping. First Stage of finishing is import.
So cool. Wish you good times with your coming studio. Cheers from Denmark.
I built mine myself Just like yours 2004. Pro Level too in my House basement. I did hire a handy man. Some friends. An a Electrician friend to finish electrical that I did not want to finish off. Turned out Awesome. Took 2 Years to build though. All the Best!!! 👍
Ha I see you did your plenum Vent pipe replacement the same as myself. Back in 2005 I had to do my own research an ideas.
Looking awesome!! Seems like it takes forever, but will be well worth it on the end! You deserve it!!!
Loving the way this is going! Something to consider though on your electronic rack. The vent that you are running to the rack, will that be an added zone to your current HVAC system? You most definitely would not want heat running there in the winter. Instead of a second zone on the current HVAC which would be quite a small zone on such a big system, consider adding a small stand alone mini split. They do have ducted models that can be mounted elsewhere and ducted over.
Loving this series and so excited to see it all come together! Footage was great!
Yup, I know about the FU prices. I've had the same issues with contractors, who thought my projects are not worth their time.
What are your Sound Proofing Considerations? Are you going to Add Safe and Sound Insulation and Float(J Track strips) the Dry Wall or Double up the Dry Wall ..(if your Drywalling) ... Also Suggest you add Conduit Pipes for future Cable runs .. Don't forget to add lots of Electrical outlets for the Amps and other devices.
Wow. Crofton is 20 minutes from me. This is awesome!
Looks great Rhett...I am watching while messin with my strat....thanks for all you do, ;)
I totally relate to file management issues. My inbox at work is a disaster too. Doesn’t matter what I do, my files end up in the wrong folders completely. The only files that end up in the correct folders is for my music lessons. Lol!
I like Shane's voice. Great dude
Remember, Rhett: if you don't save at least 2 times, you haven't saved at all. Get a second and third backup hard drive and try to save your content on, at the absolute very least content that hasn't been finished yet. Also think about online backup sites like Backblaze that perform backups automatically at an interval of your choosing
Some 30 years ago I bought a house which needed massive reconstruction. As I had no real building experience I decided to do it on my own. In a years time I rebuilt almost every internal wall (including getting rid of a supporting one and catching it with a steel beam), added more than 600 square foot to the house, put in all new electricity, plumbing and heating, insulating, 11 new doors with frames I made as well virtually on my own in a year. BTW it was a no wood construction.
It can be done....!!!
As someone who has done a custom house build for myself, take photos of everything ... walls, ceiling, plumbing, electrical, etc. for future reference. And wear gloves dude!
Keep on the good Work !!! You really rock !!!
Awesome, Rhett. Hope it goes well
If the footage is gone, it might not be .. if you still have the storage media it was recorded on, there is always a possibility that some of it, if not most of it can be restored. I hope it's not overwritten too many times in your case.
Thanks again for an interesting video, and Go Shane!
I feel the need to comment this here 1.) Stop beating yourself up for making a mistake and being human. Even with the missing footage this is a good video. You probably didn't need to show your hand here. 2.) Sing you did tell us about your disorganization I will say this - I was diagnosed, as an adult in my 40's, with attention deficit disorder. I am not hyperactive at all, but my brain is definitely lawyers buzzing, and it effected how I functioned in the 'real word'. After the diagnoses and medical treatment it has made a world of difference. I don't loose my keys as often, and when I do, I can backtrack to what I did the last time I had them. That simply task was too much for my brain previously. If you're struggling with things like this, it my be worth looking into for you
shane seems like an awesome boss.
That guy's speaking accent is the coolest thing ever.
Run extra empty conduit to future proof it!
Did you try any file recovery tools for the lost video? Deleted doesn't always mean permanently deleted.
Dear all of you. Little piece of advice. When Shane speaks, the whole channel listens.
Two kinds of people in the world: those who have lost computer data, and those who will.
Hi Rhet, I think you are far to hard on yourself! Building a studio is a complex project, you have now the foundations for a super recording space and I think from the video you will find some interesting sweet spots in there for recording drums, guitars and bass etc! I can’t wait to see the next stage. Loosing video files can happen to anyone, maybe being a bit disorganised is the price you pay for being a creative person! I still think the footage you have for this episode amply documents the structural challenges you have overcome! Keep going!🎸🦾👏
Studio Build WHOOP WHOOP!
DIY projects are always 3x your worst estimate for both time and price
video production place... think of having aan easy way to put green elements on walls to create videos for songs
awesome!!!!!!!!!
Look up Cal Newport for time management skills🙂
Shane Witty could have a second job narrating audiobooks, what a great voice.
You should collab with @linustechtips for a data storage solution in the new studio
Feel your pain here man, feel your pain... Love the space though, it's gonna be amazing and please invite us for a coffee and a chat once it's done.
Absolutely! Thanks for the kind words guys.
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Quick comment. At about 10:30 Shane does a great job as a leader providing positive feedback and reinforcement to his team. Really good leadership. In addition to the work he and his team did to help make this project a reality, that’s the way a boss should operate, and not enough do. It goes a long ways toward making work enjoyable and not just a paycheck to have some sort of sense of pride and camaraderie and the boss participating in that.
Was that before or after belittling him with the purse comment?
@@BeyondTigerMilk probably before. I haven’t finished the video yet. Either way, calling out the positive doesn’t hurt anyone, and helps reinforce the concept of celebrated wins.
@@BeyondTigerMilk You obviously don't know the difference between "belittling" and "poking fun", very different things and everyone chuckling having a good time should be a good indicator of which one the purse comment was. Stop taking everything seriously all the time, it might make you a less negative person overall.
@@koolaids-man8668 yeah man laughing at your boss' sexist comment while being recorded is definitely indication that the guy was okay with it
@@BeyondTigerMilk yes, yes it was, you're getting it now
Praise to Shane, his crew and all hard working honest people
Love how Shane took time to give praise to his workers on the little things. Seems like a great leader and those workers will never forget his imprint. Keep it guys. 👍🏼👍🏼
Rhett, do you require all your contractors to sound like Sam Elliot?
Yes.
@@RhettShull can you say how much this work would have ended up costing? I’m curious for the framing work, studio designer, and such…
Never start a project without proper plans on paper. Something as detailed as your studio was doomed from the start without them. Glad to see you're pulling it together. Diggin' the videos from here in Thailand.
I think this just proves how stupid it is to try and build a "pro"-studio, in a residential house. Especially when you don't want to part with your cash for the heftier cost of real
studiobuilders (how hard could it be, everyone can hammer a nail, right ?). Not doing right from the start, obviously also adds to the bill. Of course the guys says it ok that you lost all your pictures of their work, I mean they're cool guys from Kentucky. I really think it sucks on your behalf though, kind of arrogant.
I mean...its all cool and stuff....but guys....safety !...circular saw, nail guns...no gloves or eye protection...?...come on....handling those steels ...lads wearing trainers...
Lol
I've been elbow deep in a build enough times to recognize that these guys are serious pros.
The fact that they reached out, and drove that far to do construction on your project restores some of my faith in humanity.
Thanks for sharing Rhett!
100% agreed, with your assessment, not only pros, but humble and hard-working.
@@activese the best kind. Seeing a pro take humble pride in their work is a thing of beauty.
the way they furred the ceilings leads me to believe they are not serious pros
Shane could read the phone book and make it sound interesting
Can you release an episode/podcast of Jimmy and Shane just talking about whatever while drinking coffee? They both have the best voices
That’s my son’s southern accent! Very proud of him. I agree, the two different accents together are interesting! 😊
Single camera, wide frame, wood panelled walls, MCM furniture, turntable with John Prine, and a 40 minute conversation about different types of woods
@@JamesDanielBaxter Guitarists will line up to hear a conversation about different types of wood 😆
Totally. Get them on one of your tracks Rhett!!!!!!. singing or talking
A song about the studio build.
Wow, Crofton KY is my old stomping ground. Western KY represent!!!!!
As a British person, I'm personally loving the accents on display here.
If I may ask a dumb question, would it have been easier and/or less expensive to build a whole new building on your property?
Not sure how much land you have, but basements can be a little zany to deal with.
Hope you aren't moving anytime soon, lol. Great work, huge applause for the boys from KY who made this all happen! Amazing story and work they did. Love it!
As a musician with ADHD myself, I am still in awe that you manage a RUclips channel and keep updating consistently. I know I can‘t😂 it just beats me. I‘m happy you are THIS organized despite being DISorganized.
Honestly, that would be a topic of video that I would really enjoy as somebody with ADHD as well. I'd love to hear when his hyperfocus normally kicks in, and how he balances being overwhelmed with getting smaller, to-do tasks done
I’m not trolling by asking this question. Wouldn’t it have been cheaper and easier to build a separate building on the property and build it to spec from the ground up?
Yes. This is a silly project and somebody should have stopped him before getting started.
It definitely wouldn’t have been cheaper or easier, with permitting and cost of building in my area this was the best option. The only easier option we considered was renting a commercial space and building out there, but I want to actually own my studio, not pay rent. It’s a totally fair question, and we looked into it before starting.
Wow. That I-beam is a serious piece of metal. I have one holding up the bedrooms of my house, but it went up by ripping off the whole upstairs and dropping it in. Doing it in situ is some mad building skills. And you shouldn't feel bad about the timeline. As we say in my line of work: the first 90% takes 90% of the time, but the last 10% takes the other 90% of the time. Hope the finished project works for you! 🤞
A steel beam is more costly than lumber, but not when a steel can be split into three manageable lengths and spliced together, can fit into a smaller space so not destroying the pipework and all that goes with it, and as it could go in easily with three guys in a morning, which would save probably four guys three days labor, which is where the real money is. What is missing all along is planning ahead, drawings (I haven't seen a single drawing), and scheme fully formed before work commences.
Around the office, whenever we get a time estimate from someone else on campus who needs to do stuff before we can do stuff, we double the number and up it one order of units. If someone says "We can do that in three days" we expect it in four weeks. :D
What video you were able to show here was revelatory. I am kind of new to your channel and didn’t know you had a studio in the works. Can’t wait to follow your progress. Love your content. Cheers from Wichita, Kansas
I know the point of the video is the studio construction, but the part about losing the video files made me cry inside just a little bit, I know that feeling well. Digital archive organization and backup is near and dear to my heart, but it is mind-numbing, painstaking work to come up with an organization and backup strategy and then take years worth of projects and organize them accordingly. Shane and his crew did amazing work, and I'm glad the remaining footage wasn't lost so we can see them during the process.
At the start, I felt like I was about to be lectured by my Dad. Brought me back a few years lol. This community is freakin' amazing. Getting help through a concerned member is awesome. P.S. keep your vids on Google Drive. You should do a live stream with Shane - could help future studio builders.
Kentucky..... going to have to call it the Bourbon Room then. Keep charging.
Well Rhett to be 100% honest and clear, at 3:13 you say ... ''their eyes glazed over... and they backed out" That's not really accurate as they could only truly 'back out' if, IF they had accepted the job, which they didn't. In reality, they did you a favor by being honest with you (even though it's not what you wanted to hear). Perhaps they recognized the job was not beneficial to them making money, which is after all the reason they do what they do. Why accept a complicated job, when you can make just as much money doing an easier job? The Studio is your passion, but It's just a job to them as they are just trying to put food on the table. They really don't care it's a Recording Studio or a Funeral Parlor. Them turning down your job, wasn't personal, but they were honest and said no thanks because they knew it was complicated and time consuming !. Would you rather they accepted the job and did it incorrectly?
I am a contractor and have turned down many jobs, because I realize I can make a simple four wall room for just as much money in much less time as a complicated build. It's economics.
I wish you nothing but success, I hope the finished product serves you well and I hope to hear some great music that was created in your studio. I love your channel.
I agree. But the problem is guys giving a quote, you agreeing, then they keep putting you off, or they don't show up, then ghost you... I've had 4 concrete guys out, 3 quoted, 2 seemed ready, then 1 ghosted, then the last said I'll pour last of October. No calls, keeps putting me off. Tons of liars in construction, like most fields. People need to keep their word, even to their own detriment, not bail or put someone off if a better job shows up. That's why the industry has a _terrible_ reputation...
@@Guitaural. '' That's why the industry has a terrible reputation''
But the industry also has a bad reputation because some contractors accept a job while knowing full well they aren't capable of doing the job. I respect a person who honestly recognizes the job is beyond their ability's and passes. It would have been far worse if someone came in with a low estimate and did a poor job. I'm glad Rhett found a quality company to do the job the correct way.. It's a tricky job.
@@mudwiser1391 Absolutely - I believe one of the guys that bid my job underbid, then cost me about a month of good weather because instead of being a man and telling me, he ghosted me when the project was due to start. Glad Rhett has a good crew!
4 days to install 1 lvl!? No offense, but I'm a commercial builder and 2 minutes of thought beforehand could have saved 3 days. Sorry Rhett, but you should be recording already. A year and half?! For that?!!!! That little bit of square footage is framed in a DAY and a half in my business.
Life with ADHD is a struggle. Your content is amazing! We all still love you, man. Appreciate the honesty. Don’t beat yourself up. No shame in your game, please.
Still looking forward to seeing this studio come together…and IT WILL!
Humbling and a little melancholic to think that 30 years ago Rick Beato has the exact same plan. Build a studio to be able to make music a livelihood without needing to be a “good enough” musician/artist to make a living from that. Become a producer/studio owner and then combine with being a RUclipsr … and then, 30 years from now, Rhett’s studio will be empty and not doing studio things
Ah, building a non-standard, specialised structure in the midst of a trade shortage. I feel for you mate. It'll be awesome when it's finished.
Lol that framing is a mess and a total nightmare for drywall. You're gonna end up with cracks everywhere. You're missing corner supports and strapping. But will be interesting looking when done.
I don’t know u but I do know that u can fix being disorganized…cop out. Period. You’re a very smart man. Stop it.
Well Rhett… I mean this is a guitar channel and how you thought we weren’t going to notice that you have George Lynch secretly helping you design the studio….🤣🤘🏻
Doing it right always
Takes longer
Costs more
is a major f**king headache.
They say Electric Lady was a major issue in Jimi's "stress". From all the stories I've heard from people building home studios, it's always an "adventure".
So it will be a mini "Rick Beato" space? I wonder how long it took him to amass the vast amount of equipment he has in his space.
the framing in the ceiling needs more support. you can't span 2 by 4 on flat that far without support and expect it not to sag
Yes, Blame the contractors for wanting no part in cleaning up the mess you made.
Good builders are GOLD! They are rare, and deserve every $ that they get. Great of you to give them credit.
Very exciting, so this is your forever house? big dollars being pumped.into a very specific use area. A musicians dream.
No such thing as a forever house
in most places, code doesn't allow you to put flex duct above a hard ceiling. you're also not supposed to splice it, or run more than 8' of it per run. maybe it's not like that where you live, i don't know.
Strong feeling he doesn't care
@@BeyondTigerMilk it wasn't a knock on his build, i think what he's doing is awesome. he's worked really hard, and has invested alot of sweat equity to make all of this come together. i said it because the possibility exists where he might find it useful or beneficial to know. if not, no harm was done.
I was always pretty happy with my Tascam DP-01 and condenser mics into a mixer in a room with blankets hung over the windows. God bless ya Guys!
I've worked in construction since 1994. You have a tough build, and only the right contractor will be a good fit. Not an easy build, but not impossible. The right crew is key. Flexible. innovative.
I find myself looking forward to your videos like a Netflix series. Never disappoints. Love watching you grow bro, keep at it Rhett.
I’ve literally lost count of how many LVL / steel beams I’ve installed in basements. Probably over 1k now.
I'm a video professional and let me tell you Rhett, it's a mistake we all make once... But we only make it... Once! Looking forward to the rest of the series.,
Kudos to Full Measure.
Hey Rhett, I’ve helped to build several pro audio studios in the Tri-state area both design and electrical power and elco rack wiring and custom snakes. Someone suggested running some pvc tubing between your control room and live room. One for power and another for low voltage and twisted pair. We build our studios to analog specs although digital is not as stringent. For instance any live room should not have a single circuit that surround the room whether it’s lighting or power receptacles. Always split your iso ground circuit so no 180 degree loops are present. Many of our studios here still offer 2” 24 and 48 track linked tape machines
Anyway you get the idea. I did the wiring and some acoustic design for Studio Crash in Philadephia which was listed by AES as one of the most perfect response live rooms and control rooms anywhere. Send me note if you want to talk shop. Shame I didn’t know of your search for pro studio builders.We travel when called upon to do so. Hope you take the advice about the pvc for Dante’ and other wiring considerations with options for expansion.
Can’t wait to see the finish. PS HVAC flex ductwork must be roughted in circles to cancel the sound of the air coming through the ducts….. you don’t want to have to turn off the air to do quiet mixes. All my best ,
Dave Simpson
Guitar courses (at the end) sounds pretty enticing
And it helps out the channel so Amen to that!! 🎄
I’m going to be building a studio in the spring. In a crawl space with a 6’ ceiling. It’s what I have to work with. Good thing I’m 5’ 9” tall.
Hey Rhett, I discovered you from watching Rick Beato’s channel. Been watching yours for a while now. Awesome news about your studio! Really enjoyed this. I’m on the east coast of Florida and I’m really good with low voltage wiring and terminating, soldering, etc. I’d love to help when you get to that point. Thanks again for sharing!!
when I watch videos like these I always wonder," where does all the money come from?" all those instruments and equipment in the house studio and now this massive product. Does driving around in a van doing gigs pay plus this channel and video courses pay for all this?
He’s definitely not making that kind of cash to pay for all this stuff. Probably more like from mommy and daddy, or something like that.
*sigh* this is kinda clickbaity dude
Gotta fund this money pit of an idea somehow
He’s got a great crew of dudes that will surely be the next generation of great studio builders. Also love the accents. Congrats!
Lovin' the Wu Tang Clan that was playing in the background!!! 36 Chambers amazing album!!!
Are you near big power lines? Are you going to do a faraday cage before you close it all up? It was an absolute necessity in 2 studios I did inspections for.
Such a pleasure to watch and listen to Shane working. It's a pity that it's so hard to find people like him and his team today. They are the glue that hold projects like this together and it's totally understandable that Shane and the team had fun dong this as well. It's a buzz delivering difficult/inventive solutions for people. Nice Work!
This Shane dude has the right mentality for this kind of work. Stays cool and just works it out. This project looks awesome. 👌