THANK YOU for watching! Here's another clip from Dial the Gate's conversation with Dean Devlin, in which he shares what the planned Stargate movie sequels would have been about: ruclips.net/video/daD2VO8laJ8/видео.html
I know where you're coming from...i didnt realize till about 2 years ago that most of the stuff i liked and watched on a regular basis and go back to as favorites is mostly written by Dean. Sg1, Leverage, Librarians are my top 3.
I also loved the "Daniel steps up to the gate" scene, not just for the childlike wonder he showed there, which any one of us would be doing if we were in his shoes; but also for the cut back to the technicians in the control room, watching him do that. A cool moment.
Praying for SGU to continue. Really hoping for the new show(s) they've been talking about (as long as they're not animated)... but still love the original Stargate shows and would really love to see any of them continue.
This is wonderful!! Thank you SO MUCH for bringing in people from the original film!! I love both the film and the series, but, I feel that the film is neglected far too often . So, again, thank you so much for bringing in Dean for this interview!! Hope to see more folks mixed in with the tv interviews!
Alot of people forget about the original movie but it's one of my favourites, it brought my love for all things concerning ancient Egyptian, Greek, Mayan infact any and all ancient civilisations be it mythological or factual and Science fiction into one huge exciting show. Thanks David for your incredible show and to all your guests that shed the light on how the Stargate universe. Peace✌
Similar to MASH. Many people either forgot or never knew both were movies. Those movies were eclipsed by the TV show because the TV show was a better vehicle for the plot.
Stargate is still one of my favorite movies of all time. The actors, the storylines and the eygptian history tied into science fiction made it one of a kind.
I was recently rewatching the 1978/79 TV series of Logans Run, which came out right after the same movie. The final episode of this series (14) which I think was not aired in 1979, is titled "Stargate". In it, the Stargate is a cylindrical chamber.
Great interview! That is one of my favorite movies, saw it when it was originally in the Theater and re-watched maybe 10 times on the DVD over the years.
This is really great, a well done interview! I have to confess, I did not like the movie when I first saw it on the big screen. Ironically, I love the TV shows, as silly as they can sometimes be. And liking the TV shows has given me a new appreciation for the original movie.
I was big into Indiana Jones then and Stargate movie felt like Raiders of the Lost Ark in space, the TV show made me love it even more but i did have a love/hate relationship with Earth mythology being aliens.
I was always so grateful for my buddy who introduced me to this incredible movie and opened up a whole new genre that I would have probably dismissed as too techy and stupid.
Correct me if I am wrong, but can’t Atlantis catch up with destiny using the wormhole drive they used to get to earth to stop the wraith, not just that but it can dock with destiny as well and take it home, can’t it?
The distance between the Milky Way and Pegasus is "only" about five million light-years, whereas Destiny is "several billion light-years from Earth". So, depending on how many "several" really is, we're talking about 1000x to 2000x the distance. Destiny has been in flight for over a million years, and in my head canon based on the speed of travel we saw on the show, the ship has probably passed through roughly half a million galaxies in all that time. The wormhole drive was too unstable to rely on, the drive burned out and can't be repaired (according to an SGA Legacy novel, which may not be canon), and it was an utterly monstrous power hog - even for the universe-spanning, ZPM-popping Ancients, who overbuilt everything. So Earth would have to totally solve all the power supply problems that have plagued both the SGC and the Atlantis team for years, with hundreds of fully charged ZPMs (or something comparable) spilling out of their pockets like coins out of a casino slot machine. The Earth team would also have to be smarter than the Ancients themselves in order to fix the drive and keep it running for far longer than it was ever intended to run. We know that one of Earth's cruisers like the Apollo can land on one of Atlantis' piers. I could be wrong, but my impression is that Destiny is a lot bigger than one of those ships. Plus, Destiny has those ventral "fins" which might be crushed in an attempted landing. Plus, Atlantis is the preeminent repository of Ancient knowledge and technology, the only one that Earth has of its kind, utterly precious and irreplaceable. The IOA would have to be completely bonkers and working hard against Earth's interests in order to send it off on such a risky mission - especially when a tiny fraction of that vast energy expenditure could be far better spent in a 9 chevron dial to send Destiny something to help with dialing back to Earth. And finally, we have no idea if Destiny is actually done with her mission. After more than a million years, she's gathered a tremendous amount of information about the CMBR, but she might have to gather a lot more before the "meaning of life" questions of the mission can be answered. Rescue the crew, sure, and send back to Earth all the data that Destiny has collected so far, but bringing the ship back to the Milky Way might actually be a huge betrayal of the Ancients' goal for the ship, and a waste of over a million years' worth of work.
Dean Devlin a Producer and Screenwriter, wrote his first screenplay Universal Soldier, Stargate, Independence Day and it’s sequel, Godzilla and produced The Patriot
Nice background. I always assumed connection with Heinlein’s juvenile Tunnel In The Sky with Danniker-ish alien artifacts. BTW . . . Virtual backgrounds are lame. It takes fine-tuned lighting and camera adjustment to pull-off. Gotta stay hip with the kids.
at the end he says something about them not being able to hold the effect that long does anyone know why? its just a green screen effect isnt it so would it be money cost or what?
I always thought that the film was inspired at least somewhat by the Role Playing Game "Fringeworthy". There are some notable similarities (as well as some notable differences). It's always possible of course that the similarities are just a coincidence. Each used a "Transport Ring/Gate", they used a Dial Home Device and each traveled to other worlds - though the Fringeworthy gate also went to alternate Earths and Dimensions. A major difference is that the Stargate opened directly to another world, while the Fringeworthy gate opened to a platform floating in a void, and had long (50 miles long!) pathways to other platforms with gates that then opened to other worlds.
8:30 that’s one thing that always bothered me…from the start… “Well who do you think built the pyramids?” “…………I don’t have any idea who built them….” Surely a better way of answering that (not from a character dev point of view obviously)…. “The Egyptians built them obviously, the question is WHEN!”
Ignore my nonsense… It’s absolutely bonkers how a serendipitous coalescence of concept and circumstance created a fictional world/universe with so many “coincidental” winks to our actual fundamental reality and cosmic life. A master apocalyptic work, with a sprinkle of shredded-cheese atop. I wonder how many staff had connections with those in-the-know within the intelligence community. *Double Secret*, indeed.
It's amazing how things come together. Beyond human understanding how many things had to happen for the Stargate series to be created as it was (just like all the things that had to happen for each of us to be born).
I'm sure they meant as in able to touch it and not cgi...However.... I'm ready to storm the facility and dial that thing up... Come on lets start a find the gate campaign and leave this wasted world behind.
MGM bought the rights to Stargate just before the film released. By the time Dean and Emmerich were wrapping up Independence Day and pitching a Stargate sequel, MGM had decided to make a television series instead. And it was a hit.
In watching GAIA Cosmic Disclosure and the SSP. How many of the Stargate Atlantis Space Battles are based on the SSP Battles that are taking place in our Solar System?
amazing interview, too bad the shameless worse than bad background change in Dean's footage, not even a matching lighting!! I swear i minimized the window and just listened to the audio, watching at it was probably give me eyes cancer, for sure
Movies have been around for a while when Stargate was being filmed, and storytelling as a whole is as old as humanity. Why would anyone think it would be a good idea to take out all the character establishment and development scenes??
...alien spaceship under the Great Pyramid of Giza... ok, thank you for this info... what I read somewhere, that was real thing according to Billy Meier...
Wonder if these gentlemen know about the REAL Stargate? Preston Nichols 2014 RUclips Video Interview. He explains where the real one was discovered and it's now in the possession of the Government near a University. Supposedly there are 50, maybe more here on Earth and how many of them are active???
Stargate imo bears a resemblence to the books and RPG published before it named Fringeworthy. Also there was another lawsuit that an egyptology professor wrote a script that Stargate plagiarized, settled outa court.
Yeah. The movie takes itself too seriously which is always dangerous when your premise is essentially conspiracy theory central. You gotta make fun of yourself when you do that so you don't attract all the loons who actually believe it.
After Atlantis it went downhill and lost its edge. SGU took itself far too seriously and the characters didn't endear themselves to the audience to make you like them. They turned stargate into almost a soap opera and it was boring. I will be the elephant in the room and say I hope they don't do another series because it'll be nothing like we remember. In this current climate it'll be woke and political and it'll just make me watch sg1 and atlantis again to enjoy it for what it was
That approach was done for big reasons. It comes from dark places, think about the search he was on and the madness. Well I guess I could call that soapy drama too, would the subject of the characters roles pose interest. I loved the story telling although sometimes I did feel like there was clashing for the sake of it. But who knows, you and I haven't been crammed together to survive in almost impossible places
Is Dean Devlin using a fake backgroundif anybody can see the white between his fingers and around his head makes me think that his background is not real lol
all the great Stargate came after Dean and Roland had no input, and many of their ideas were changed to actually make sense. (like Abydos being the closest to earth, rather than the far side of the universe (power requirements?) Sorry, I don't want their stargate.
Their trilogy didn't sound good. Part II would have been the first movie again but with Myan Mythology. Part III was going to answer all the mysteries of earth. Bigfoot, Lochness Monsters, etc? Well, Supernatural and a bunch of other shows have already done that! SG-1 took a good movie and made a great series with it. Devlin should be proud they achieved that as the grandfathers of Stargate if you will.
It's amazing how Scifi writers can take fictional stories from the original Scifi book and bring them into the world of today. With all the different stories today about the original 13 tribes and various cultures in history each being a remnant of some former being pretending to be a deity, It's a wonder the original fiction story didn't sell more copies. The bible could have been a best seller with the correct distributors, it's a shame it was so poorly written.
Who's brilliant idea was it to use the Stargate as a trope for the sphincter and "wormhole travel" as a reference to anal sex in the TV series? Pretty much fucked the franchise there.
THANK YOU for watching! Here's another clip from Dial the Gate's conversation with Dean Devlin, in which he shares what the planned Stargate movie sequels would have been about: ruclips.net/video/daD2VO8laJ8/видео.html
I love Dean Devlin. The man is responsible for 90% of my escapism either directly or indirectly. He knows what my brain craves.
I know where you're coming from...i didnt realize till about 2 years ago that most of the stuff i liked and watched on a regular basis and go back to as favorites is mostly written by Dean.
Sg1, Leverage, Librarians are my top 3.
I also loved the "Daniel steps up to the gate" scene, not just for the childlike wonder he showed there, which any one of us would be doing if we were in his shoes; but also for the cut back to the technicians in the control room, watching him do that. A cool moment.
Praying for SGU to continue. Really hoping for the new show(s) they've been talking about (as long as they're not animated)... but still love the original Stargate shows and would really love to see any of them continue.
This is wonderful!! Thank you SO MUCH for bringing in people from the original film!! I love both the film and the series, but, I feel that the film is neglected far too often . So, again, thank you so much for bringing in Dean for this interview!! Hope to see more folks mixed in with the tv interviews!
Alot of people forget about the original movie but it's one of my favourites, it brought my love for all things concerning ancient Egyptian, Greek, Mayan infact any and all ancient civilisations be it mythological or factual and Science fiction into one huge exciting show. Thanks David for your incredible show and to all your guests that shed the light on how the Stargate universe. Peace✌
Similar to MASH. Many people either forgot or never knew both were movies. Those movies were eclipsed by the TV show because the TV show was a better vehicle for the plot.
Stargate is still one of my favorite movies of all time. The actors, the storylines and the eygptian history tied into science fiction made it one of a kind.
Serendipity & Synchronicity...a fortuitous combination = Stargate!
I was recently rewatching the 1978/79 TV series of Logans Run, which came out right after the same movie. The final episode of this series (14) which I think was not aired in 1979, is titled "Stargate". In it, the Stargate is a cylindrical chamber.
Talking about favorite moments? Mine was when it clicked between Jack and Daniel: what to do with the bomb. One of the best death scenes ever.
Great interview! That is one of my favorite movies, saw it when it was originally in the Theater and re-watched maybe 10 times on the DVD over the years.
Thanks for watching, John!
This is really great, a well done interview! I have to confess, I did not like the movie when I first saw it on the big screen. Ironically, I love the TV shows, as silly as they can sometimes be. And liking the TV shows has given me a new appreciation for the original movie.
I was big into Indiana Jones then and Stargate movie felt like Raiders of the Lost Ark in space, the TV show made me love it even more but i did have a love/hate relationship with Earth mythology being aliens.
I was always so grateful for my buddy who introduced me to this incredible movie and opened up a whole new genre that I would have probably dismissed as too techy and stupid.
*Watch it on Netflix just last night and yes I totally enjoyed it as always.*
Correct me if I am wrong, but can’t Atlantis catch up with destiny using the wormhole drive they used to get to earth to stop the wraith, not just that but it can dock with destiny as well and take it home, can’t it?
The distance between the Milky Way and Pegasus is "only" about five million light-years, whereas Destiny is "several billion light-years from Earth". So, depending on how many "several" really is, we're talking about 1000x to 2000x the distance. Destiny has been in flight for over a million years, and in my head canon based on the speed of travel we saw on the show, the ship has probably passed through roughly half a million galaxies in all that time.
The wormhole drive was too unstable to rely on, the drive burned out and can't be repaired (according to an SGA Legacy novel, which may not be canon), and it was an utterly monstrous power hog - even for the universe-spanning, ZPM-popping Ancients, who overbuilt everything.
So Earth would have to totally solve all the power supply problems that have plagued both the SGC and the Atlantis team for years, with hundreds of fully charged ZPMs (or something comparable) spilling out of their pockets like coins out of a casino slot machine.
The Earth team would also have to be smarter than the Ancients themselves in order to fix the drive and keep it running for far longer than it was ever intended to run.
We know that one of Earth's cruisers like the Apollo can land on one of Atlantis' piers. I could be wrong, but my impression is that Destiny is a lot bigger than one of those ships. Plus, Destiny has those ventral "fins" which might be crushed in an attempted landing.
Plus, Atlantis is the preeminent repository of Ancient knowledge and technology, the only one that Earth has of its kind, utterly precious and irreplaceable. The IOA would have to be completely bonkers and working hard against Earth's interests in order to send it off on such a risky mission - especially when a tiny fraction of that vast energy expenditure could be far better spent in a 9 chevron dial to send Destiny something to help with dialing back to Earth.
And finally, we have no idea if Destiny is actually done with her mission. After more than a million years, she's gathered a tremendous amount of information about the CMBR, but she might have to gather a lot more before the "meaning of life" questions of the mission can be answered. Rescue the crew, sure, and send back to Earth all the data that Destiny has collected so far, but bringing the ship back to the Milky Way might actually be a huge betrayal of the Ancients' goal for the ship, and a waste of over a million years' worth of work.
This was awesome!
Dean Devlin a Producer and Screenwriter, wrote his first screenplay Universal Soldier, Stargate, Independence Day and it’s sequel, Godzilla and produced The Patriot
I would love to see the first draft of the movie made with the Wormhole X-Treme cast!
most interesting. will you be releasing more of that interview?
Great stuff!
Matthew Broderick was the first choice for Daniel Jackson but was on broadway I think? , he wound up playing a similar character in Godzilla.
What, and miss out on Shank’s furled brow? Me thinks we received the better Daniel Jackson. 🤌
Nice background. I always assumed connection with Heinlein’s juvenile Tunnel In The Sky with Danniker-ish alien artifacts.
BTW . . . Virtual backgrounds are lame. It takes fine-tuned lighting and camera adjustment to pull-off. Gotta stay hip with the kids.
Cool Story Bro...But what we all wanna know is, if they are working on a new Stargate Series?
1:07 isn't that Dune?
Loved this one!
at the end he says something about them not being able to hold the effect that long does anyone know why? its just a green screen effect isnt it so would it be money cost or what?
To much energy needed to power the gate of course!
🤣😂🤣😂
6:07 the first draft was like a high school kid wrote…
So…it was a modern Hollywood script at that point?
What movie set is Dean on here? it looks so familiar to me.
I think it's a digital backdrop of the set from Leverage, which he's producing.
I’d watch both those movie ideas
I always thought that the film was inspired at least somewhat by the Role Playing Game "Fringeworthy". There are some notable similarities (as well as some notable differences). It's always possible of course that the similarities are just a coincidence. Each used a "Transport Ring/Gate", they used a Dial Home Device and each traveled to other worlds - though the Fringeworthy gate also went to alternate Earths and Dimensions. A major difference is that the Stargate opened directly to another world, while the Fringeworthy gate opened to a platform floating in a void, and had long (50 miles long!) pathways to other platforms with gates that then opened to other worlds.
I always just assumed that both were simply based on the rotary phone.
8:30 that’s one thing that always bothered me…from the start…
“Well who do you think built the pyramids?”
“…………I don’t have any idea who built them….”
Surely a better way of answering that (not from a character dev point of view obviously)….
“The Egyptians built them obviously, the question is WHEN!”
1,987,690,320 possible 7 symbol addresses... so we need 2 more chevrons to go to 3 different addresses??
7 for the Milky Way galaxy.
8 for traveling outside of our galaxy.
9 for traveling to Destiny.
Lol is Dean Devlin the screaming guy in Real Genius montage scene
Ignore my nonsense…
It’s absolutely bonkers how a serendipitous coalescence of concept and circumstance created a fictional world/universe with so many “coincidental” winks to our actual fundamental reality and cosmic life. A master apocalyptic work, with a sprinkle of shredded-cheese atop.
I wonder how many staff had connections with those in-the-know within the intelligence community.
*Double Secret*, indeed.
It's amazing how things come together. Beyond human understanding how many things had to happen for the Stargate series to be created as it was (just like all the things that had to happen for each of us to be born).
Watch is David Big Trouble in Little China is a great movie.
"One step from Earth" by Harry Harrison.
Lol the Kurt bit
“The Stargate was practical”
Oh really now…
I'm sure they meant as in able to touch it and not cgi...However....
I'm ready to storm the facility and dial that thing up...
Come on lets start a find the gate campaign and leave this wasted world behind.
Me: "The Stargate is practical? PRACTICAL??!!"
Another Guy: "No, the inner ring spins and the symbols light up. That's it."
Me: "NOOOOOOOO!"
@@jimdigitalvideo ... "Make it spin. Sir it doesn't spin. But it's round...I want it to spin. Make it spin....Yes sir."
Being so popular I have to ask
Why then did they choose not make the second and third movies?
MGM bought the rights to Stargate just before the film released. By the time Dean and Emmerich were wrapping up Independence Day and pitching a Stargate sequel, MGM had decided to make a television series instead. And it was a hit.
In watching GAIA Cosmic Disclosure and the SSP. How many of the Stargate Atlantis Space Battles are based on the SSP Battles that are taking place in our Solar System?
@@GateWorldDotNet Everything always gets messed up with movie rights and distribution. I give you star trek as exhibit 1.
ALTERNATE 90's trilogy cast: Kurt Russell and James Spader, with Charlize Theron as "Captain Samantha Carter" and Ving Rhames as "Teal'C"
amazing interview, too bad the shameless worse than bad background change in Dean's footage, not even a matching lighting!! I swear i minimized the window and just listened to the audio, watching at it was probably give me eyes cancer, for sure
Movies have been around for a while when Stargate was being filmed, and storytelling as a whole is as old as humanity. Why would anyone think it would be a good idea to take out all the character establishment and development scenes??
...alien spaceship under the Great Pyramid of Giza... ok, thank you for this info... what I read somewhere, that was real thing according to Billy Meier...
WORLDWIDE FAN BUILDINGS PROJECT OF GOOD
Wonder if these gentlemen know about the REAL Stargate? Preston Nichols 2014 RUclips Video Interview. He explains where the real one was discovered and it's now in the possession of the Government near a University. Supposedly there are 50, maybe more here on Earth and how many of them are active???
the bad green screen maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan
Stargate imo bears a resemblence to the books and RPG published before it named Fringeworthy.
Also there was another lawsuit that an egyptology professor wrote a script that Stargate plagiarized, settled outa court.
TALK WITH MILAN Am´
Stargate 1994 is much better than Dune 2001, do you agree with me too?
Fabulous creative work.. just finished the entire saga.. annoying characters not withstanding
It spins because the general thinks it should spin. The general said to make it spin..... Lmao
I never liked the movie. Its a chore to watch. The SG-1 pilot "Children of the Gods" was far better.
Yeah. The movie takes itself too seriously which is always dangerous when your premise is essentially conspiracy theory central. You gotta make fun of yourself when you do that so you don't attract all the loons who actually believe it.
After Atlantis it went downhill and lost its edge. SGU took itself far too seriously and the characters didn't endear themselves to the audience to make you like them. They turned stargate into almost a soap opera and it was boring.
I will be the elephant in the room and say I hope they don't do another series because it'll be nothing like we remember. In this current climate it'll be woke and political and it'll just make me watch sg1 and atlantis again to enjoy it for what it was
That approach was done for big reasons. It comes from dark places, think about the search he was on and the madness. Well I guess I could call that soapy drama too, would the subject of the characters roles pose interest. I loved the story telling although sometimes I did feel like there was clashing for the sake of it. But who knows, you and I haven't been crammed together to survive in almost impossible places
There was tons of intrigue
Is Dean Devlin using a fake backgroundif anybody can see the white between his fingers and around his head makes me think that his background is not real lol
Yeah, it's a Zoom background. The image is a set piece from his show Leverage.
all the great Stargate came after Dean and Roland had no input, and many of their ideas were changed to actually make sense. (like Abydos being the closest to earth, rather than the far side of the universe (power requirements?) Sorry, I don't want their stargate.
Their trilogy didn't sound good. Part II would have been the first movie again but with Myan Mythology. Part III was going to answer all the mysteries of earth. Bigfoot, Lochness Monsters, etc? Well, Supernatural and a bunch of other shows have already done that! SG-1 took a good movie and made a great series with it. Devlin should be proud they achieved that as the grandfathers of Stargate if you will.
It's amazing how Scifi writers can take fictional stories from the original Scifi book and bring them into the world of today. With all the different stories today about the original 13 tribes and various cultures in history each being a remnant of some former being pretending to be a deity, It's a wonder the original fiction story didn't sell more copies. The bible could have been a best seller with the correct distributors, it's a shame it was so poorly written.
Who's brilliant idea was it to use the Stargate as a trope for the sphincter and "wormhole travel" as a reference to anal sex in the TV series? Pretty much fucked the franchise there.
And hiding the truth won't make it go away.
What?
SSP
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