That was fun! I didn't know about the Double Play Mize/Slaughter card, which is pretty awesome. I'd put Alan Trammell comfortably ahead of Enos Slaughter on your list, for what it's worth. Trammell is well ahead of Slaughter in Baseball Reference's vesion of WAR (although Slaughter lost some of his prime years to WW2).
Probably the only time I'll have a card featured in one of your videos. Pulled my ichiro & pujols rookie 22 years ago, and I've cherished it ever since.
The 1970 Vida Blue/Gene Tenace rookie is a very solid card. Tenace's 7 year peak WAR is higher than the average 7 year peak of HOF catchers. Blue's HOF standards number is pretty high. Threepeat WS champs. I wonder if Ken McMullen realizes how loved he is on this channel.
Loved this series!! Great job. I’ve been heavily investing into goat cards that are on the same card. For example Jordan and Kobe, Brady and Montana, Etc. Those will have a great long-term value in my opinion
Bird#1 Magic#2 Gotta give to the Indiana boy no doubt..🤔😉 Maybe it's because I'm an Indiana boy myself..😝😲 Gr8 video Chris one could argue a few of these groups of superstar player's..😍 Take care..👍💕🔥👀👊
I’ve always preferred multiplayer rookie cards if they were all star players. Beyond the Bird-Magic, I think one of the most notable of all time was a scarcely printed 2003 Topps Matrix of “the big 3”… Lebron/Wade/Bosh. I think it’s the only card that year that featured that group. I believe POP on the PSA10 is under 40. I love this video Chris. Always top notch content!
The 1971 Topps Rookie Stars 709 with Dusty Baker/Don Baylor is a sneaky good card, although the chance of that card having 2 HOFers in the future are slim (but not impossible)
LOL...nice ending! Ichro and Pujols are my favorite card - In all honesty, have always disliked multiple players on a card, especially for baseball, these always brought a frown when opening. Have a great one and thanks!
There is a radio announcer in the Milwaukee area that legitimately asked his audience if Ichiro was a HOFer because half his hits came in Japan. Same guy also asked if David Ortiz should be in the HOF because all he did was hit.
@@collectorinvestordealer I appreciate the response, pretty sure it's mint. I have that entire Detroit Tigers team stand-alone Lou Whitaker and Jack Morris card also. if you could tell me about how much a mint set of that is worth also? I know I'm getting pretty nervy here... Any help would be appreciated. Also, can you tell me what PSA stands for?
I find Magic incredibly humble for an athlete of his stature. Reminds me of his description of Jordan making it clear who was the new top dog at practice in Barcelona and Magic was quite laid back about it.
Great list! An Honorable mention would be the 1973 Topps Baseball Mike Schmidt rookie also features the rookie of Ron Cey. Cey is not a hall of famer, but appeared in the All Star game six times, was part of a team that won four NL championships, and was the 1981 World Series MVP. Not bad for the second best rookie on a card!
Cool research. The fleer lebron wade carmelo has a crystal /50 version that’s sold for six figures. Magic and Bird is the most iconic for sure. The lebrons you showed are right behind.
I was not aware of many of those cards football, basketball except the Bird Magic Dr. J which I own. The Pujols Ichiro is a gem. Great topic and your research dept.needs a raise.
Thanks for the great video Chris!! Having been born in 1960 I got to see the big 3 in action, I would rank them 1. Dr J. 2. Larry Bird 3. Magic. I agree with all the rest of your #2 rankings.
That was fun to watch. I agree with your ratings. I'm a huge Alan Trammell fan and have always loved the 1978 rookie card with Molitor. I also like that 1978 also had rookie cards with HOFer Jack Morris and catcher Lance Parrish.
I really enjoy your videos. I’ve learned so much from these types of videos specifically. I collect baseball and I just picked up the Pujols/Ichero ASAP because of this video (moved it up the priority list) and already had the Molitor/Trammel. Crazy to think that there are only 6.
Cool installment here, Chris. I knew the Molitor/Trammell RC would be making an appearance :) …Re: the Fernando RC, I’ve been thinkin about the HOF recently, and how who should get in depends on the fundamental question of what the HOF actually is. Is it meant to house the statistically most impressive players of alltime, or is it a museum meant to tell the story/history of baseball? I think it’s more leaning towards the former to date, but for me the latter might make more sense. Like, how can you tell the story/history of baseball without mentioning Fernandomania, Roger Maris or Bobby Richardson? I like the idea of a bigger Hall that would include players such as these who are so integral to the story of baseball over the decades.
Larry best 2nd if he has to be. Magic was amazing but Larry best trash talker all time + backed it up. Larry over Magic but if had 2b best of 2nd choices, oh hell yes
One more that should eventually qualify is the base 2009 upper deck draft edition Steph Curry / James Harden. It’s a trio RC. think there’s a version with Ricky Rubio and another with Gerald Henderson. They have a /30 autographed parallel.
Mo and Magic did both appear on an ‘80 Topps card, but I’m not sure that one counts. Magic’s appearance on that card was his All-Star card that year, not his base card (which appears with Bird’s base card)
Very nice video! Here's an honorable mention: There's another 2004 card featuring Roethlisberger, Manning, and Rivers. It's actually a 2004 Bazooka sticker, card #58, which has 4 rookies featured on the card. Roethlisberger, Manning, Rivers, and the 4th player is J.P. Losman. Not sure if you were aware of this card, it's much more of an oddball card.
I am absolutely biased on this topic, as Alan Trammell was my favorite player. With that said, Trammell played 2,139 of his 2,293 (93.2%) of his games at SS, while Molitor played 1,174 of his 2,683 (44.5%) total games as a DH. While Trammell's oWAR is 63.1 vs. Molitor's 75.6 oWAR, Trammell's dWAR is 22.8 vs. Molitor's -7.0 dWAR. Those should be a huge factor in the total player value discussion. The DH stat alone would stack up offensive numbers for Molitor, which is what most people pay attention to in any "which player is better" scenario, and makes a HUGE difference in how much wear and tear would have built up on Trammell's body. I believe Trammell was ignored by the HOF voters for 16 seasons because of this "offense is more important then defense" idea, and the Veteran's Committee fixed that error the very first chance they got with the 2018 HOF class.
Hockey has a few with the Young Guns checklist cards, but highly doubt theyre worth much. 09/10 #250 Victor Hedman/John Tavares 08/09 #250 Alex Pietrangelo/Steven Stamkos/Drew Doughty 07/08 #250 Patrick Kane/Carey Price 05/06 #242 Sidney Crosby/Corey Perry 03/04 #245 Marc-Andre Fleury/Eric Staal Some are shakier picks than others, but seemingly fair guesses.
223 players have ever made the basketball hall of fame, if it was just nba/aba (no women, globetrotters or international) there would only be 130 players to make the hof. It seems easy because basketball encompasses all countries, colleges, globetrotters and female players along with coaches and contributors
Honorable mention could be the 1996-97 Collectors Choice card with Kobe/Jermaine O'Neal/Kevin Garnett. I know only 2 of those are rookies, and only one of the rookies is a HOFer, but has a second HOFer with a GOAT rookie
Speaking of '78 Topps, I was reminded of the Murphy-Parrish rookie card, as well. Obviously no Hall Of Famers, so irrelevant to this topic - but with 15 All-Star games between them - plus 3 AS games between Whitt and Diaz, also on the card - I imagine you'd be hard pressed to find a rookie card featuring a combined 18 All-Star appearances but 0 Hall of Famers.
If only Parrish had stayed in Detroit, his career went downhill after leaving. Murphy was the best player in the league for 4-5 years, should be in the HOF.
@@walterdudedonny You know what, you're 100% correct - so '78 wasn't a true rookie. My entire premise has crumbled! Would be interested to know why Topps would occasionally repeat players on those cards featuring groups of rookies. Seems like a silly redundancy. The guy was identified as a rookie the prior year - even if he wound up not playing much or at all, why put him on another rookie card the next year?
Chris... here's one more. I bought several raw recently and have finally graded a couple.... Vlad Guerrero and Andrew Jones. Andrew is still trending up and this year ballot has him at 58 %. Rolen was there this year. Vlad Sr. is a given. How many father/son Hofers? See about that list.
RE: 1948 Bowman Beckett designated quite a few cards from that set as rookies. Not all of those choices make sense, though. For example, the Bob Feller card got the nod, despite a pair of ‘38 Goudey examples. So, your ‘41 offering passes muster.
Obviously HoF isn't happening, but for a minute there, the 2018 Topps Archives RC with Miguel Andujar, Clint Frazier and Gleyber Torres looked like a great card.
@@walterdudedonny What numbers? Wade is a 3 time champion, Finals MVP, was 8 time All-NBA (twice first team), and three time All-Defensive Team. Carmelo never won a title, never was first team All-NBA, and never made a defensive team.
@@mookz34 I agree Wade may be considered more of a winner, but Melo has better counting stats especially as a scorer. He is 9th all-time in points. This by Nick Wright about Melo... "Carmelo Anthony is one of the greatest scorers ever. If that sounds like opinion, it’s not. His career field-goal percentage is the same as Kobe Bryant’s. His free throw percentage is equal to Jerry West’s. His 3-point percentage is better than LeBron James’. And he’s the ninth leading scorer of all time." We might say Wade was better, but we also might say that Wade was luckier to be on better teams than Carmelo Anthony.
I'm. Glad you are doing good. Seen you on somebody's channel. I 💡 your kid pic does a lot for you too. Sitting in the front yard. Don't ever get rid of that. God Bless you.
How dare you call Trammell the #2 player on his rookie card! Growing up in the Detroit area he was my favorite player. That card is notoriously off center and usually has a big ink smudge. I bought a PSA 9 in 2021 and paid $1600 for it. U.L. Washington was also a starter for the Royals. Trammell also has a solo 1978 card in the Burger King set. The 1978 set has the rookies of Trammell (HOF), Jack Morris (HOF), Lou Whitaker (should be HOF), and Lance Parrish (with Dale Murphy), best year ever for Tigers fans. It was an expensive PSA 9/10 team set to put together.
@@williambartenslager8040 That is fine, but Trammell didn't reach 3000 hits, 500 stolen bases, or bat .300+ for his career. Defense usually gets overlooked in stats when you put up numbers like Molitor did.
I'm surprised there aren't many football ones. Honestly the multiple player card would have been an elegant solution to topps not wanting to make linemen cards.
Yes, that's why you see them pop up in Topps Total sets. Lineman are under-rated... for example, IMO Andrew Wylie won the Super Bowl last night for KC by keeping Haason Reddick away from Mahomes.
@@gridironstars Yeah, a complete 360 from a few years ago when the Buccaneers defeated the Chiefs. Had KC protected Mahomes like they did last night versus the Eagles, Mahomes, might be 3-0 in the Super Bowl.
Might be controversial, but I would have Ichiro as the best player on the card, not Pujols. Pujols had him in power, but Ichiro maintained a higher average, had far more speed and was a sensational defensive outfielder. He also didn't have as bad a back end of his career (end of last season for Pujols aside). Pujols had the better MLB career overall, but I believe Ichiros was the better player. He just started his MLB career at an older age. I have zero doubt that if Ichiros players his entire career in MLB as opposed to partly in Japan, he would have been the third member of the 4,000 hit club. And he very well may have passed Cobb and Rose
Yeah, had Ichiro started out in MLB 3 or 4 years earlier, he would be even greater in hits, and all-time player rankings. Still very impressive what he did accomplish though.
I'm really debating if I should ever watch another of your video. Bird #2??? Seriously Chris! Cmon, man... LOL... I'll chalk it up to your youth since you didn't see them play live until much later in their careers.
Crystal I would put the Piazza topps rookie with Carlos Delgado snub should be an honorable mention.
Agreed. Great card
Thats a great one!
That was fun! I didn't know about the Double Play Mize/Slaughter card, which is pretty awesome. I'd put Alan Trammell comfortably ahead of Enos Slaughter on your list, for what it's worth. Trammell is well ahead of Slaughter in Baseball Reference's vesion of WAR (although Slaughter lost some of his prime years to WW2).
Probably the only time I'll have a card featured in one of your videos. Pulled my ichiro & pujols rookie 22 years ago, and I've cherished it ever since.
The 1970 Vida Blue/Gene Tenace rookie is a very solid card. Tenace's 7 year peak WAR is higher than the average 7 year peak of HOF catchers. Blue's HOF standards number is pretty high. Threepeat WS champs. I wonder if Ken McMullen realizes how loved he is on this channel.
will the grading companies even grade the Bird or Magic individually for those who tore the perforations?
PSA definitely will not, I am not sure about the other companies
1971 topps don baylor/dusty baker?
Good one, Baker may make it in
Loved this series!! Great job. I’ve been heavily investing into goat cards that are on the same card. For example Jordan and Kobe, Brady and Montana, Etc. Those will have a great long-term value in my opinion
Bird#1 Magic#2 Gotta give to the Indiana boy no doubt..🤔😉 Maybe it's because I'm an Indiana boy myself..😝😲 Gr8 video Chris one could argue a few of these groups of superstar player's..😍 Take care..👍💕🔥👀👊
I’ve always preferred multiplayer rookie cards if they were all star players. Beyond the Bird-Magic, I think one of the most notable of all time was a scarcely printed 2003 Topps Matrix of “the big 3”… Lebron/Wade/Bosh. I think it’s the only card that year that featured that group. I believe POP on the PSA10 is under 40. I love this video Chris. Always top notch content!
I’m glad someone else said this! It’s one of the craziest cards to exist!
The 1971 Topps Rookie Stars 709 with Dusty Baker/Don Baylor is a sneaky good card, although the chance of that card having 2 HOFers in the future are slim (but not impossible)
Great one! I should have included that one in honorable mentions.
That is an expensive card, 1971 condition sensitive, high number series, and two 1970s stars.
Dusty will get in as manager. Baylor maybe by the veterans committee
LOL...nice ending! Ichro and Pujols are my favorite card - In all honesty, have always disliked multiple players on a card, especially for baseball, these always brought a frown when opening. Have a great one and thanks!
Impossible list at the end.
There is a radio announcer in the Milwaukee area that legitimately asked his audience if Ichiro was a HOFer because half his hits came in Japan. Same guy also asked if David Ortiz should be in the HOF because all he did was hit.
1/4 of his hits more like.
I live by that last piece of advice
Surely will now that he has won a World Series and you used to work in my local card store Hall Of Fame Peter says hello
I would put Eli in 3rd.
Bird is better
I have a 1978 Topps Alan Trammell distributed through Burger King, a card of him alone, does anyone know how much this is worth?
It depends heavily on the card's condition
@@collectorinvestordealer
I appreciate the response, pretty sure it's mint. I have that entire Detroit Tigers team stand-alone Lou Whitaker and Jack Morris card also. if you could tell me about how much a mint set of that is worth also? I know I'm getting pretty nervy here... Any help would be appreciated.
Also, can you tell me what PSA stands for?
Larry Bird over Magic by a fraction. Even Magic himself has said he felt Bird was a better overall player..
Like he said, it's interchangeable.
To this day Larry Bird was the Best Trash Talker in Basketball 🏀 ... and he could always back up what he said on The Court
I find Magic incredibly humble for an athlete of his stature. Reminds me of his description of Jordan making it clear who was the new top dog at practice in Barcelona and Magic was quite laid back about it.
Magic was just being humble.
Even Laker fans who love Magic know Larry was the better player. Magic was the showman though. 2 of the best ever.
Great list! An Honorable mention would be the 1973 Topps Baseball Mike Schmidt rookie also features the rookie of Ron Cey. Cey is not a hall of famer, but appeared in the All Star game six times, was part of a team that won four NL championships, and was the 1981 World Series MVP. Not bad for the second best rookie on a card!
Great one!
3 cheers for the Penguin.
@@Dr-Jan-itor Waddle, waddle, waddle.
Cey's rookie is a 1972. Cey was an excellent player!
@@tommayrant2279 You are correct! Topps lied to me all these years!!! Ben Ogilve is on the 1972 card. He was a great player too.
fun cards and great players .. great video
Near miss: Dale Murphy, Lance Parrish ....
I always loved how the Bird Magic had a couple variations
There could have been a rookie pitchers of Seaver and Ryan on the same card. Almost.
Magic and Bird RC should hold #1 for a very very long time. Second should be 03 Topps Matrix LeBron, Wade and Bosh.
I put Manning over Ben,simply for having beat Brady in the SB,TWICE!
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Cool research. The fleer lebron wade carmelo has a crystal /50 version that’s sold for six figures. Magic and Bird is the most iconic for sure. The lebrons you showed are right behind.
Bird over Magic any day!
I was not aware of many of those cards football, basketball except the Bird Magic Dr. J which I own. The Pujols Ichiro is a gem. Great topic and your research dept.needs a raise.
Thanks for the great video Chris!! Having been born in 1960 I got to see the big 3 in action, I would rank them 1. Dr J. 2. Larry Bird 3. Magic. I agree with all the rest of your #2 rankings.
I Ichro and Pujlos
That was fun to watch. I agree with your ratings. I'm a huge Alan Trammell fan and have always loved the 1978 rookie card with Molitor. I also like that 1978 also had rookie cards with HOFer Jack Morris and catcher Lance Parrish.
I really enjoy your videos. I’ve learned so much from these types of videos specifically. I collect baseball and I just picked up the Pujols/Ichero ASAP because of this video (moved it up the priority list) and already had the Molitor/Trammel. Crazy to think that there are only 6.
I think your list is dead on. BTW the 2001 Topps T99 card sells for under $2K in PSA 10. My poor BGS 9.5 copy sells for WAY less than that now.
Cool installment here, Chris. I knew the Molitor/Trammell RC would be making an appearance :) …Re: the Fernando RC, I’ve been thinkin about the HOF recently, and how who should get in depends on the fundamental question of what the HOF actually is. Is it meant to house the statistically most impressive players of alltime, or is it a museum meant to tell the story/history of baseball? I think it’s more leaning towards the former to date, but for me the latter might make more sense. Like, how can you tell the story/history of baseball without mentioning Fernandomania, Roger Maris or Bobby Richardson? I like the idea of a bigger Hall that would include players such as these who are so integral to the story of baseball over the decades.
Loving the video. My vote is Lebrons @ 6:00
Larry best 2nd if he has to be. Magic was amazing but Larry best trash talker all time + backed it up. Larry over Magic but if had 2b best of 2nd choices, oh hell yes
Larry was better at trash talking, Magic was better at basketball.
I would have loved to see a 05-06 upper deck The Cup Ovechkin / Crosby dual auto jersey rc
Good point. Crosby Ovechkin have a few shared RCs
Chris said he was only doing "base set" cards.
@@mookz34 I'm not saying anything about the video cause the card doesn't exist im just saying if i would have loved to see the card created
The Lebron/Wade/Anthony Topps Matrix RC is way undervalued IMO. Great vid
One more that should eventually qualify is the base 2009 upper deck draft edition Steph Curry / James Harden. It’s a trio RC. think there’s a version with Ricky Rubio and another with Gerald Henderson. They have a /30 autographed parallel.
Good one!
Although the one with Larry Bird is way better, don't forget the other 1980 Topps dual HOF RC, of Magic Johnson and Maurice Cheeks!
Great call on that one! I missed it
Mo and Magic did both appear on an ‘80 Topps card, but I’m not sure that one counts. Magic’s appearance on that card was his All-Star card that year, not his base card (which appears with Bird’s base card)
Very nice video!
Here's an honorable mention: There's another 2004 card featuring Roethlisberger, Manning, and Rivers. It's actually a 2004 Bazooka sticker, card #58, which has 4 rookies featured on the card. Roethlisberger, Manning, Rivers, and the 4th player is J.P. Losman. Not sure if you were aware of this card, it's much more of an oddball card.
My dad and I collected every LL card from the 50s to the 80s in mint collection, some pretty awesome combos of players over the years
Honorable mention, Justin Morneau and Joe Mauer on one card.
I like these kinds of cards and think your assessments spot on. Bird and Magic are the duo I followed most and can think of strong arguments for both.
I am absolutely biased on this topic, as Alan Trammell was my favorite player. With that said, Trammell played 2,139 of his 2,293 (93.2%) of his games at SS, while Molitor played 1,174 of his 2,683 (44.5%) total games as a DH. While Trammell's oWAR is 63.1 vs. Molitor's 75.6 oWAR, Trammell's dWAR is 22.8 vs. Molitor's -7.0 dWAR. Those should be a huge factor in the total player value discussion. The DH stat alone would stack up offensive numbers for Molitor, which is what most people pay attention to in any "which player is better" scenario, and makes a HUGE difference in how much wear and tear would have built up on Trammell's body. I believe Trammell was ignored by the HOF voters for 16 seasons because of this "offense is more important then defense" idea, and the Veteran's Committee fixed that error the very first chance they got with the 2018 HOF class.
I'll take bird
Hockey has a few with the Young Guns checklist cards, but highly doubt theyre worth much.
09/10 #250 Victor Hedman/John Tavares
08/09 #250 Alex Pietrangelo/Steven Stamkos/Drew Doughty
07/08 #250 Patrick Kane/Carey Price
05/06 #242 Sidney Crosby/Corey Perry
03/04 #245 Marc-Andre Fleury/Eric Staal
Some are shakier picks than others, but seemingly fair guesses.
I see Ben and Eli get in definitely...Rivers I'm not certain. Needed a SB win.
Hockey has a ton - 1980-81 OPC Hockey Scoring Leaders Dionne Gretzky Lafleur Card #163 (HOF x 3)
If Harold Baines is in the HOF, Cecil Cooper should be in, Along with Al Oliver!!! Lou Whitaker as well
223 players have ever made the basketball hall of fame, if it was just nba/aba (no women, globetrotters or international) there would only be 130 players to make the hof. It seems easy because basketball encompasses all countries, colleges, globetrotters and female players along with coaches and contributors
Don't eat the yellow snow!!!
Honorable mention could be the 1996-97 Collectors Choice card with Kobe/Jermaine O'Neal/Kevin Garnett. I know only 2 of those are rookies, and only one of the rookies is a HOFer, but has a second HOFer with a GOAT rookie
Good one!
#6 football card @2:21
#5 baseabll card @3:55
#4 baseball card @5:11
#3
#2 Baseball card @7:15 ichiro / pujols
#1 basketball card @8:15 magic johnson/larry bird
This is one of the most interesting you tube videos in a long time!!
Just sold one of the '78 Rookie Shortstops a few months ago for like $8 I think.
Great thoughts on this
Speaking of '78 Topps, I was reminded of the Murphy-Parrish rookie card, as well. Obviously no Hall Of Famers, so irrelevant to this topic - but with 15 All-Star games between them - plus 3 AS games between Whitt and Diaz, also on the card - I imagine you'd be hard pressed to find a rookie card featuring a combined 18 All-Star appearances but 0 Hall of Famers.
If only Parrish had stayed in Detroit, his career went downhill after leaving. Murphy was the best player in the league for 4-5 years, should be in the HOF.
Interesting... I bet that is the only card in history to feature the RC of four Allstars.
@@collectorinvestordealer Topic for a future video? Get the vaunted El CID, Inc. research dept on it!
Wasn't Dale Murphy RC in the '77 set and repeated in '78?
@@walterdudedonny You know what, you're 100% correct - so '78 wasn't a true rookie. My entire premise has crumbled! Would be interested to know why Topps would occasionally repeat players on those cards featuring groups of rookies. Seems like a silly redundancy. The guy was identified as a rookie the prior year - even if he wound up not playing much or at all, why put him on another rookie card the next year?
Chris... here's one more. I bought several raw recently and have finally graded a couple.... Vlad Guerrero and Andrew Jones. Andrew is still trending up and this year ballot has him at 58 %. Rolen was there this year. Vlad Sr. is a given. How many father/son Hofers? See about that list.
The legendary Ken McMullen shows up! It's a disgrace he's not in.
If Pete Rose didn't mess up, we could have had a serious debate on including Ken McMullen in the 2nd best player list. 🙃
Very true
RE: 1948 Bowman
Beckett designated quite a few cards from that set as rookies. Not all of those choices make sense, though. For example, the Bob Feller card got the nod, despite a pair of ‘38 Goudey examples.
So, your ‘41 offering passes muster.
T99 Pujols/Ichiro card is my favorite card of all time.
Your list is perfect. A+
Ahh the Mickey Klutts/U.L. Washington RC! (The exclamation point serving as a toothpick for U.L.)
Philip Rivers should not be in the hall of fame.
Obviously HoF isn't happening, but for a minute there, the 2018 Topps Archives RC with Miguel Andujar, Clint Frazier and Gleyber Torres looked like a great card.
1. Bird
2. Slaughter
3. Ichiro
4. Trammell
5. Wade
6. Manning
If only Bob Bonner and Jeff Schneider had hall of fame careers. 😔
Seriously!
Surprised you omitted the 71 Baker/Baylor from the Honorable Mention section. Dusty is a sure-fire HOFer when he’s eligible.
Forgot that one!
Even Magic Johnson would tell you that Bird should be ranked #1!
Don’t pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger and you don’t mess around with Jim
I feel bad for Ichiro because nobody brings his Japanese League stats into the topic. He played 9 Seasons in Japan and racked up an extra 1000+ hits.
And then there are the 500 plus hits he had from age 12-17!
how good was Japan baseball then - even AA level? I doubt it....
Eli up higher on your list. 2x Super Bowl MVP!!
I'd put Wade #2, ahead of Ichiro.
But as far as numbers, Anthony is above Wade and he's on the same card.
@@walterdudedonny What numbers? Wade is a 3 time champion, Finals MVP, was 8 time All-NBA (twice first team), and three time All-Defensive Team. Carmelo never won a title, never was first team All-NBA, and never made a defensive team.
@@mookz34 I agree Wade may be considered more of a winner, but Melo has better counting stats especially as a scorer. He is 9th all-time in points.
This by Nick Wright about Melo...
"Carmelo Anthony is one of the greatest scorers ever.
If that sounds like opinion, it’s not. His career field-goal percentage is the same as Kobe Bryant’s. His free throw percentage is equal to Jerry West’s. His 3-point percentage is better than LeBron James’. And he’s the ninth leading scorer of all time."
We might say Wade was better, but we also might say that Wade was luckier to be on better teams than Carmelo Anthony.
I sold you mine 3 on 1 football rookie to you. With Ben on it.
I remember that!
I'm. Glad you are doing good. Seen you on somebody's channel. I 💡 your kid pic does a lot for you too. Sitting in the front yard. Don't ever get rid of that. God Bless you.
I'd put Carmelo over Wade in my opinion.
If you find a toilet in your dream, don’t use it 😅
How dare you call Trammell the #2 player on his rookie card! Growing up in the Detroit area he was my favorite player. That card is notoriously off center and usually has a big ink smudge. I bought a PSA 9 in 2021 and paid $1600 for it. U.L. Washington was also a starter for the Royals. Trammell also has a solo 1978 card in the Burger King set. The 1978 set has the rookies of Trammell (HOF), Jack Morris (HOF), Lou Whitaker (should be HOF), and Lance Parrish (with Dale Murphy), best year ever for Tigers fans. It was an expensive PSA 9/10 team set to put together.
Curious how it happens in the printing process that 75% of one card ends up with an ink smudge?
Gotta go by the stats and Molitor had the better stats and longer career.
@@t.b5509 Trammell was way better defensively, best double play combo with Whitaker in baseball history.
@@williambartenslager8040 That is fine, but Trammell didn't reach 3000 hits, 500 stolen bases, or bat .300+ for his career. Defense usually gets overlooked in stats when you put up numbers like Molitor did.
Not a chance, Molitor was clearly first.
I'm surprised there aren't many football ones. Honestly the multiple player card would have been an elegant solution to topps not wanting to make linemen cards.
Yes, that's why you see them pop up in Topps Total sets. Lineman are under-rated... for example, IMO Andrew Wylie won the Super Bowl last night for KC by keeping Haason Reddick away from Mahomes.
@@gridironstars Yeah, a complete 360 from a few years ago when the Buccaneers defeated the Chiefs. Had KC protected Mahomes like they did last night versus the Eagles, Mahomes, might be 3-0 in the Super Bowl.
Magic over Bird?
How dare..
And also with you. ✌🏼
Might be controversial, but I would have Ichiro as the best player on the card, not Pujols. Pujols had him in power, but Ichiro maintained a higher average, had far more speed and was a sensational defensive outfielder. He also didn't have as bad a back end of his career (end of last season for Pujols aside). Pujols had the better MLB career overall, but I believe Ichiros was the better player. He just started his MLB career at an older age. I have zero doubt that if Ichiros players his entire career in MLB as opposed to partly in Japan, he would have been the third member of the 4,000 hit club. And he very well may have passed Cobb and Rose
Yeah, had Ichiro started out in MLB 3 or 4 years earlier, he would be even greater in hits, and all-time player rankings. Still very impressive what he did accomplish though.
You forgot the ever popular, "don't eat any yellow snow". Be well Chris, really enjoy your videos.
nice video chris
Great list....
I'm really debating if I should ever watch another of your video. Bird #2??? Seriously Chris! Cmon, man... LOL... I'll chalk it up to your youth since you didn't see them play live until much later in their careers.
Good list
Am I the only one that cant stand the triple lebron rookie how they made his picture so much lower than dwade and carmelo
That bugs me too
@@collectorinvestordealer But am I the only one that like regular rollers over it?
3 HOFs? What about NHL?
"Don`t run with scissors!" 😀😀👍👍
😂😂😂😂 betting lots of PSA 10s got snipped
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We have a winner!
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It's pronounced E-Nus Slaughter, not E-Nose.