Thanks Drew. A well balanced perspective on Aptera's emphasis on saftey design. The more I learn about Aptera the more I realize how well engineered this EV is. It's amazing.
Great job Drew! I have fielded the Aptera safety question quite a few times myself and done a lot of thinking on the subject. I can't wait for actual crash test results because I believe the Aptera is likely to be one of the best ever tested!
To me, it is simple, either it is tested just like a car (by NHTSA/Euro NCAP/etc), even if it is not required to (I believe they can be tested if they pay for it?), or its safety is not proven and thus in question. Simulation and doing "some" testing is not enough. Either they are really serious about safety or they are not, and if they are, I want to see ALL the testing done by an independent 3rd party (preferably government), so I can compare it to other vehicles.
@@TailosiveEV Well, if they do all the testing (not just some), then we will know how safe they really are. Until then, as per Mike Tyson, everyone has a plan until they get hit in the face 😉
I like your videos. No BS, just good concise info. I get tired of seeing comments that say "It's a death trap" "A coffin on wheels" etc. One commenter said "The body is there just to keep rain off". From what I understand, it will be very safe. I just hope that, if/when they get into production, they aren't priced out of my range. I'm sure they will have to raise the prices somewhat.
We need to wait for the crash tests. According to insurance companies side impact accidents are the second most common type of accident, after rear-end collisions. They account for about 25% of all fatal accidents in the United States. Side impact accidents are often more severe. There is only the door between you and the 'intruder'. NHTSA estimates that side airbags reduce the risk of death in side impact accidents by 37% for drivers and 52% for front-seat passengers. The crash testing will tell.
However I’m still a bit concerned about the financial side of the company, less than before, but the whole Sustainability Sooner thing left a bad reputation for Aptera imo
This thing looks awesome! I would love to drive one! Thanks for applying common sense to this safety issue instead of using a knee jerk reaction. It is amazing just how thin our doors really are in modern cars. They are a thin sheet of metal with reinforcements. I was surprised how thin my 2013 Altima doors were when I pulled the interior door panel and speaker off.
I was sitting in the left seat of a British "sporty car" at a stoplight, (about 1972) A 1950s Ford truck (light) discovered he had no brakes. If he hadn't turned Hard Right, I wouldn't be here today. (In an Aptera, I might NOT have had to depend on the skillful driving of that nice man. {P.S. truck doors are quite a Chore to Lift, when the vehicle is lying on its side.} Every collision is going to be a little different.)
When they ran the "moose" test they did extremely well. I have not seen exact numbers but anecdotally it looks like they passed it at 50 or 60 mph [the spec is i think 30 mph]
I am curious to see how badly the crash test dummies melon bounces off the inside of the door/window in a side impact. I'm guessing that Aptera must think they will do OK without the side airbags. Unless there are some engineering challenges to using them that we are unaware of I suspect your suspicion that cost is a factor must be the reason. It seems like adding them would be wise. Is "safe enough" going to be OK ?. My 2010 Kia Soul, and it was the base model, came with 6 airbags and a 5-Star crash rating and it was cheap. I've forgotten what i paid but I think i was around $15k (new). It was an on the lot dealer special. It lacks keyless remote and is the 1.6L manual, but it has power windows, AC, electronic stabilization, 4-wheel disk brakes etc. I'm still driving it today.
I think we're all going to be pleasantly surprised with the real world crash test data, when they get around to it, first we've got to get into production though. 😊. One step at a time, don't worry.... We'll get there.
Thanks Drew for reiterating much of this information. I don't know if you noticed but the latest from Aptera showed a tubular steel roll cage which looks like it goes around the roof perimeter of the passenger compartment. I couldn't tell if this was below or in between carbon structure. Thinking about it because carbon fiber is stronger than steel (by weight) but more brittle, I'm thinking this was done for roll over safety. The first roll over may cause damage to the passenger cell while keeping its integrity, but damage the material so by the second or subsequent roll over it was crumple. The tubular steel is not as strong, but it is also not as brittle, so when these roll over the can crush down some but won't completely fail like carbon. I thought initially that if they used tubular carbon that could help with strength but it would still be brittle. This is an interesting approach. Same thing they do in most race cars, tubular steel roll cages. I know some motorcycle skid plates use a composite of plastic with carbon fiber that holds up well to repeated strikes, that would be the only other possibility I could think of.
Yesterday, I was surprised to learn (via Tesla Investor Day) that Elon Musk did not know about Aptera. But this does support my theory that STILL less than1% of people know Aptera even exists. I think if that that were raised to just 10%, Aptera would be swimming in investor money.
@@chrisbarrett2512 unfortunately I live it a place where there isn't a driveway and street parking isn't an option either. It will get plenty of sun, but just not as much as someone that has those options.
@@chrisbarrett2512 For me the extra couple of evening hours that I would gain from parking on the street would not be worth the loss of security. Besides, that is where the charger is and I have a long enough commute that I will have to charge once a week.
Can you talk about how strong will the solar panel charging cells be against cracks & other damage? I'm thinking stuff like hail & pebbles out on the freeway.
There's definitely a cynical stigma associated w/anything new & different, but people need to be open minded about projects like Aptera. Do the research & don't come to premature conclusions. P.S. Can't wait to get mine!
Well done, thanks! (Now is there an in depth video anywhere that explains every detail of how EVs are better for the environment? How they’re more energy efficient from mining and manufacturing, to fuel efficiency and end of life waste/recycling? There are some, but most that I’ve found leave some unanswered questions and room for doubt… not great citations either.)
Heavier vehicles don’t have more velocity, they have more momentum. That is more energy, which makes them more dangerous to the target they strike. A larger heavier vehicle will have a stronger frame with more massive parts. The heavier vehicle will “win”. Alerts has a very hard shell that is also very rounded. It will deflect impacts instead of absorbing them. This hopefully mitigates the weight disadvantage. I’m not sure if our existing collision testing protocols will be fair to Aptera since they appear designed for rectangles and isolate some collision dynamics that Aptera would otherwise take advantage from.
Any material safe enough to be used in aircraft is more than safe enough to be used on the road. The Aptera is made out of the exact same composites that the Boeing 787 and Airbus A350 are made out of.
I’m anxious to take delivery of an Aptera, but not one the first thousand because there will be challenges. Since Tesla has made the yoke an option, I wonder if Aptera should do same.
Mass is very important to safety. Little mass means crumple zones better to awesome. The concern with this vehicle is front end collisions with a heavy vehicle. You said a truck being heavier has more velocity. That is not correct. The velocity is speed and that is the same. Heavier means it has more mass and that means a heavier vehicle has more momentum. More momentum hitting a vehicle with less momentum with all things equivalent will mean the more momentum wins. Crumple zones better be the best for the Aptera.
It is also very likely that the Aptera will be hit on the front wheels or further back. And since there is only one wheel in the back when it is hit at the passenger and not the front wheels it will probably rotate a lot and thereby redirecting some of that energy.
Great car but will they be able to actually deliver them? Production hell is proving to hurt all these new BEVs. What Tesla accomplished is remarkable and not easily repeated.
I've heard some concerns about the front suspension (between the wheels and the body) being a deathtrap for pedestrians (getting their legs lopped off below the knees when hit off-center head-on by an Aptera). Indeed it could be ugly but any pedestrian in any collision with a vehicle doesn't stand much of a chance. The Aptera's lighter weight may, in fact, help some (less inertia) but, sadly, probably not enough to avoid serious injury to the pedestrian.
Pedestrian avoidance is where the safety systems come into play. First. the Aptera will have ultrasonic sensors that will help with pedestrian detection and will trigger automated braking. Second, the Aptera will very likely have the best forward visibility of any highway-legal vehicle that isn't a motorcycle, meaning the driver will see more at all times, especially close up. As for Aptera's weight, it will weigh more than many ICE sedans, especially small ones like the Miata or Fiat 500. If those are "safe enough", the Aptera WILL be safer. If the Aptera has any safety risks relative to other vehicles, it will likely be a slightly higher risk of rolling over, though it's shape and strength should ensure better occupant safety than other vehicles in a rollover situation. As was said in the video, critical thinking is required.
@@flymypg Have you seen the earlier track testing where the aptera performed a very aggressive high speed course change. Seemed to perform very well and I would think that there a many vehicles such as semi tractor units that could not do what was shown in the track test.
Tesla would have died if it weren't for every time that it was near death and the media said Tesla is dying. All the investors invested more rather than pulling out. It's when money is tight that you need money the most. So if you believe in Aptera whenever they ask for money, invest, and they will survive, and your investment will reward you.
Yes there are exceptions but the reality is that buying an f150 or suburban is the best way to not get killed in a car and it’s not even close. The survival rates for people in those vehicles are so much better than smaller and especially LIGHTER cars. This is a big reason I think Aptera should have LFP batteries. Weight doesn’t impact highway range much and highway is The only place anyone cares about range.
Honestly, the Aptera is designed so differently that until tested by the safety regulators, we won't know. Of course they are going to say it's safe, but that doesn't say anything. The wheels outside are not necessarily a good point as in normal cars they are used to absorb energy in certain impacts. The structure is so different, it even has only 3 wheels! No comparison possible until properly tested.
Time will tell. However there is no massive engine or wheels that can be pushed into the passenger compartment to injure the passengers legs etc. They have a crumple zone, I've forgotten it volume, but Chris Anthony mentioned that it was large enough to meet 5-Star requirements.
Drew, your videos really are so much better when you aren't just shamelessly fanboying for Tesla. I assure you Elon doesn't need as much free PR as he gets.
Given the design of the vehicle, they can field it with lesser safety scores than other autos. How much safety degradation do you think the market will bear?
It will not be as unsafe as some haters are trying to say, but thinking it’s gonna be as safe as regular 4 wheeled vehicles takes a lot of copium. Moose test is not gonna look good and getting t boned in this is gonna be very deadly.
While you emphasize the importance of crash structures/crumple zones, at the same time you kind of glaze over the fact that (AFAIK) there is no crash structure in the rear of the Aptera and that is what concerns me most. At best, the structure remains intact but all the acceleration and energy is absorbed by the occupants, and at worst the structure fails in an unplanned manner. Both very bad outcomes, but without an engineered crash structure designed to deform it is really difficult to predict how a monocoque like this is going to fail.
@@shaystern2453 Motors in the wheels with a little bit of silicone sprayed up in those wheel pants, and my guess is it is not a problem. Those wheel motors will give off some heat, in a mostly enclosed area, that should be enough to keep the slush from building up.
@@shaystern2453 they conducted a test with the motor frozen solid in ice and it torqued out without problem. With a set gap between the tyre and cover I dont think it will be a problem in snow and ice
Umm, ~125% of the minimum mandated crumple zone and no "rocks" that need to be accounted for in that crumple zone [where is that big engine block in a P/U going in a collision?]
You are obviously guessing much of the time. "I would argue..." " I suspect..." "It may enhance..." I don't care about your guesses. This is a serious subject. It borders on immorality to grab for eyeballs on a subject like safety while guessing. You've got some good points to make, but your polluting that content with guesses, filler. Stop it.
That was just a rant, and it looks like you never took a breath. Do you want suggestions? Don't even bother ranting would be my first. Next, I am wondering if Aptera founders ever intended to produce it, and all their safety talk and promises of testing are just to get money now. Next, you say carbon fibre is strong, but not the toothpase form that CPC uses. You should know it's far weaker than the sheet fibre method. You should also know that is why the CPC body has had a stel roll cage added. If you don't know these facts, you really shouldn't be misleading people. Hence the first suggestion. Claiming rear-enders being the most common means Aptera could be most of the vehicles doing the rear-ending. In that case, if they hit any tray backed ute or truck, that tray is going to take the heads off the Aptera occupants, as that low crumple zone rides under the tray and the window is their only protection. However, there's no point speculating, because at this stage we don't know whether a silly trike will ever be built to sell. You don't enrol your newborns into Yale, do you?
@@TailosiveEV I click on all videos that mislead the gullible, and try to dissuade the greedy jerks who put their chance at getting their promo code used above bare minimum ethics they should have, and don't. I also try to teach some of the readers not to be so gullible as to swallow your guff. Speculation can be done properly without gutter tactics. Now shape up.
Thanks Drew. A well balanced perspective on Aptera's emphasis on saftey design. The more I learn about Aptera the more I realize how well engineered this EV is. It's amazing.
Great job Drew! I have fielded the Aptera safety question quite a few times myself and done a lot of thinking on the subject. I can't wait for actual crash test results because I believe the Aptera is likely to be one of the best ever tested!
To me, it is simple, either it is tested just like a car (by NHTSA/Euro NCAP/etc), even if it is not required to (I believe they can be tested if they pay for it?), or its safety is not proven and thus in question. Simulation and doing "some" testing is not enough. Either they are really serious about safety or they are not, and if they are, I want to see ALL the testing done by an independent 3rd party (preferably government), so I can compare it to other vehicles.
@@TailosiveEV Well, if they do all the testing (not just some), then we will know how safe they really are. Until then, as per Mike Tyson, everyone has a plan until they get hit in the face 😉
I like your videos. No BS, just good concise info. I get tired of seeing comments that say "It's a death trap" "A coffin on wheels" etc. One commenter said "The body is there just to keep rain off". From what I understand, it will be very safe. I just hope that, if/when they get into production, they aren't priced out of my range. I'm sure they will have to raise the prices somewhat.
We need to wait for the crash tests.
According to insurance companies side impact accidents are the second most common type of accident, after rear-end collisions. They account for about 25% of all fatal accidents in the United States. Side impact accidents are often more severe. There is only the door between you and the 'intruder'. NHTSA estimates that side airbags reduce the risk of death in side impact accidents by 37% for drivers and 52% for front-seat passengers. The crash testing will tell.
6:24 I love this explanation! Excellent analogy for people to understand the concept ❤
According to IIHS, full side curtain airbags reduce the risk of death in side impacts by 37%.
On a rectangular car that is not made out out of composites. Whiplash could still be a problem. I recommend looking both ways in intersections.
I am curious to see the side impact crash testing results. They seem to be confident it will do well.
If you look at my comment history you can see I’ve been skeptical of Aptera but honestly I’ve grown to love it
However I’m still a bit concerned about the financial side of the company, less than before, but the whole Sustainability Sooner thing left a bad reputation for Aptera imo
You're telling a RUclipsr to look at all the videos he's made on Aptera to find your comment among the hundreds? lol
This thing looks awesome! I would love to drive one!
Thanks for applying common sense to this safety issue instead of using a knee jerk reaction. It is amazing just how thin our doors really are in modern cars. They are a thin sheet of metal with reinforcements. I was surprised how thin my 2013 Altima doors were when I pulled the interior door panel and speaker off.
I'd love one of these cars! Too bad I'm financially challenged 😢
I was sitting in the left seat of a British "sporty car" at a stoplight, (about 1972) A 1950s Ford truck (light) discovered he had no brakes. If he hadn't turned Hard Right, I wouldn't be here today. (In an Aptera, I might NOT have had to depend on the skillful driving of that nice man. {P.S. truck doors are quite a Chore to Lift, when the vehicle is lying on its side.} Every collision is going to be a little different.)
Don't forget Aptera maneuverability. It's important how the vehicle reacts and handles to avoid the crash in the first place
absolutely its so high up which must destroy its handling
When they ran the "moose" test they did extremely well. I have not seen exact numbers but anecdotally it looks like they passed it at 50 or 60 mph [the spec is i think 30 mph]
@@anonymousduck6735high up compared to what?
@anonymousduck6735 from the test drive videos of Beta that I've watched. it handles great.
I am curious to see how badly the crash test dummies melon bounces off the inside of the door/window in a side impact. I'm guessing that Aptera must think they will do OK without the side airbags. Unless there are some engineering challenges to using them that we are unaware of I suspect your suspicion that cost is a factor must be the reason. It seems like adding them would be wise. Is "safe enough" going to be OK ?. My 2010 Kia Soul, and it was the base model, came with 6 airbags and a 5-Star crash rating and it was cheap. I've forgotten what i paid but I think i was around $15k (new). It was an on the lot dealer special. It lacks keyless remote and is the 1.6L manual, but it has power windows, AC, electronic stabilization, 4-wheel disk brakes etc. I'm still driving it today.
I think we're all going to be pleasantly surprised with the real world crash test data, when they get around to it, first we've got to get into production though. 😊.
One step at a time, don't worry.... We'll get there.
Thanks Drew for reiterating much of this information. I don't know if you noticed but the latest from Aptera showed a tubular steel roll cage which looks like it goes around the roof perimeter of the passenger compartment. I couldn't tell if this was below or in between carbon structure. Thinking about it because carbon fiber is stronger than steel (by weight) but more brittle, I'm thinking this was done for roll over safety. The first roll over may cause damage to the passenger cell while keeping its integrity, but damage the material so by the second or subsequent roll over it was crumple. The tubular steel is not as strong, but it is also not as brittle, so when these roll over the can crush down some but won't completely fail like carbon. I thought initially that if they used tubular carbon that could help with strength but it would still be brittle. This is an interesting approach. Same thing they do in most race cars, tubular steel roll cages. I know some motorcycle skid plates use a composite of plastic with carbon fiber that holds up well to repeated strikes, that would be the only other possibility I could think of.
Yesterday, I was surprised to learn (via Tesla Investor Day) that Elon Musk did not know about Aptera. But this does support my theory that STILL less than1% of people know Aptera even exists. I think if that that were raised to just 10%, Aptera would be swimming in investor money.
Thanks for this Drew. Sadly, some will never understand how things work.
Are your one of them lol 😊
@@markwilliams5654 nope lol
The only thing I’m worried about for my Aptera is how am I going to fit that wheelbase into my garage.
Why would you want to put it in your garage? Sunshine is fuel, and shade does not work for the solar cells.
@@chrisbarrett2512 unfortunately I live it a place where there isn't a driveway and street parking isn't an option either. It will get plenty of sun, but just not as much as someone that has those options.
@@chrisbarrett2512 For me the extra couple of evening hours that I would gain from parking on the street would not be worth the loss of security. Besides, that is where the charger is and I have a long enough commute that I will have to charge once a week.
Drew, it would be more momentum not more velocity.
1:38 you mean momentum? (Instead of velocity)
Can you talk about how strong will the solar panel charging cells be against cracks & other damage? I'm thinking stuff like hail & pebbles out on the freeway.
There's definitely a cynical stigma associated w/anything new & different, but people need to be open minded about projects like Aptera. Do the research & don't come to premature conclusions.
P.S. Can't wait to get mine!
Well done, thanks! (Now is there an in depth video anywhere that explains every detail of how EVs are better for the environment? How they’re more energy efficient from mining and manufacturing, to fuel efficiency and end of life waste/recycling? There are some, but most that I’ve found leave some unanswered questions and room for doubt… not great citations either.)
Heavier vehicles don’t have more velocity, they have more momentum. That is more energy, which makes them more dangerous to the target they strike. A larger heavier vehicle will have a stronger frame with more massive parts. The heavier vehicle will “win”. Alerts has a very hard shell that is also very rounded. It will deflect impacts instead of absorbing them. This hopefully mitigates the weight disadvantage. I’m not sure if our existing collision testing protocols will be fair to Aptera since they appear designed for rectangles and isolate some collision dynamics that Aptera would otherwise take advantage from.
Love the Aptera, sadly too wide for my european bendy roads where i live :(
I'll wait for their 4-seater or "rent the darn thing" for a fun weekend
According to Sandy Monroe an attempt to make a 4 wheeler may well end the company.
Any material safe enough to be used in aircraft is more than safe enough to be used on the road. The Aptera is made out of the exact same composites that the Boeing 787 and Airbus A350 are made out of.
I’m anxious to take delivery of an Aptera, but not one the first thousand because there will be challenges. Since Tesla has made the yoke an option, I wonder if Aptera should do same.
Mass is very important to safety. Little mass means crumple zones better to awesome. The concern with this vehicle is front end collisions with a heavy vehicle. You said a truck being heavier has more velocity. That is not correct. The velocity is speed and that is the same. Heavier means it has more mass and that means a heavier vehicle has more momentum. More momentum hitting a vehicle with less momentum with all things equivalent will mean the more momentum wins. Crumple zones better be the best for the Aptera.
They are massive. Especially the rear, but no axel between two front wheels means less material to push into cabin
It is also very likely that the Aptera will be hit on the front wheels or further back.
And since there is only one wheel in the back when it is hit at the passenger and not the front wheels it will probably rotate a lot and thereby redirecting some of that energy.
INVEST INVEST INVEST TREMENDOUS GROWTH WILL COME
The chassis of all open wheel formula cars are carbon. There is a reason for that.
How do you change a tire? Cool bike/car I like the innovation. I wonder what they’ll make next
Same as normal after you remove the wheel covers - they’ve said it’s a couple minutes tops.
They have plans to make a full line of vehicles
Great car but will they be able to actually deliver them? Production hell is proving to hurt all these new BEVs. What Tesla accomplished is remarkable and not easily repeated.
No,production money
It kinda freaks me out that the Aptera could pitch up into the air in certain accidents.
I've heard some concerns about the front suspension (between the wheels and the body) being a deathtrap for pedestrians (getting their legs lopped off below the knees when hit off-center head-on by an Aptera). Indeed it could be ugly but any pedestrian in any collision with a vehicle doesn't stand much of a chance. The Aptera's lighter weight may, in fact, help some (less inertia) but, sadly, probably not enough to avoid serious injury to the pedestrian.
Pedestrian avoidance is where the safety systems come into play. First. the Aptera will have ultrasonic sensors that will help with pedestrian detection and will trigger automated braking. Second, the Aptera will very likely have the best forward visibility of any highway-legal vehicle that isn't a motorcycle, meaning the driver will see more at all times, especially close up.
As for Aptera's weight, it will weigh more than many ICE sedans, especially small ones like the Miata or Fiat 500. If those are "safe enough", the Aptera WILL be safer.
If the Aptera has any safety risks relative to other vehicles, it will likely be a slightly higher risk of rolling over, though it's shape and strength should ensure better occupant safety than other vehicles in a rollover situation.
As was said in the video, critical thinking is required.
You know about the spike in deaths to pedestrians and bicycles because of oversized SUV's and pickups?
@@flymypg Have you seen the earlier track testing where the aptera performed a very aggressive high speed course change. Seemed to perform very well and I would think that there a many vehicles such as semi tractor units that could not do what was shown in the track test.
This is why it's important to aim for the center of the pedestrian. Don't hit them offset!
Tesla would have died if it weren't for every time that it was near death and the media said Tesla is dying. All the investors invested more rather than pulling out.
It's when money is tight that you need money the most.
So if you believe in Aptera whenever they ask for money, invest, and they will survive, and your investment will reward you.
Hey, how come you have not Aptera swag on you videos ??
Yes there are exceptions but the reality is that buying an f150 or suburban is the best way to not get killed in a car and it’s not even close. The survival rates for people in those vehicles are so much better than smaller and especially LIGHTER cars. This is a big reason I think Aptera should have LFP batteries. Weight doesn’t impact highway range much and highway is The only place anyone cares about range.
Weight is apparently very critical. They designed it for efficiency l. A max payload of 500lbs has been mentioned.
Does apterra have a carbon tub?
Yes
Honestly, the Aptera is designed so differently that until tested by the safety regulators, we won't know. Of course they are going to say it's safe, but that doesn't say anything. The wheels outside are not necessarily a good point as in normal cars they are used to absorb energy in certain impacts. The structure is so different, it even has only 3 wheels! No comparison possible until properly tested.
Time will tell. However there is no massive engine or wheels that can be pushed into the passenger compartment to injure the passengers legs etc. They have a crumple zone, I've forgotten it volume, but Chris Anthony mentioned that it was large enough to meet 5-Star requirements.
What is your background in car crash safety?
He has none. He is a youtuber
real question, are you going to swap your flags for aptera flags or keep tesla?
No safety standards for quadracycles
Could Aptera make the back wheel into a Dually (double rear wheel)? That might help with the perception of instability or lack of safety…
From what I've seen in video of test drive in Beta, it handles extremely well. "You can't tell it only has three wheels.
sounds super fkn expensive
nice
Drew, your videos really are so much better when you aren't just shamelessly fanboying for Tesla. I assure you Elon doesn't need as much free PR as he gets.
No production equals vaporware for now
Given the design of the vehicle, they can field it with lesser safety scores than other autos. How much safety degradation do you think the market will bear?
It will not be as unsafe as some haters are trying to say, but thinking it’s gonna be as safe as regular 4 wheeled vehicles takes a lot of copium. Moose test is not gonna look good and getting t boned in this is gonna be very deadly.
The moose test did look good, they ran it s out a year ago
While you emphasize the importance of crash structures/crumple zones, at the same time you kind of glaze over the fact that (AFAIK) there is no crash structure in the rear of the Aptera and that is what concerns me most. At best, the structure remains intact but all the acceleration and energy is absorbed by the occupants, and at worst the structure fails in an unplanned manner. Both very bad outcomes, but without an engineered crash structure designed to deform it is really difficult to predict how a monocoque like this is going to fail.
The Apteras safety qualities will only be relevant if it reaches production and customer sales.
truly a fair weather ride, no ice or snow
With torque vectoring I think snow and ice will be no more difficult in this than any other vehicle. Decent tires make a huge difference.
@@chrisbarrett2512 1.3 million jigawatts won't prevent the wheel wells from filling with slush and freezing ❄
@@shaystern2453 Motors in the wheels with a little bit of silicone sprayed up in those wheel pants, and my guess is it is not a problem. Those wheel motors will give off some heat, in a mostly enclosed area, that should be enough to keep the slush from building up.
@@shaystern2453 they conducted a test with the motor frozen solid in ice and it torqued out without problem. With a set gap between the tyre and cover I dont think it will be a problem in snow and ice
if/when aptera can verify their safety claims with real life crash tests, I think tesla should try to acquire them.
1st
Carbon fibre explodes on impact forged carbon is cheap and lower strength it's basically off cuts of carbon fibre lol😊
This narrative based on imaginary and "creative" physics isn't worth watching or hearing.
The aptera motorcycle has nearly no crumple zone. Just a metal bar in front of the metal frame.
Umm, ~125% of the minimum mandated crumple zone and no "rocks" that need to be accounted for in that crumple zone [where is that big engine block in a P/U going in a collision?]
@@johnalden6093 The only crumple zone is the front crumple bar of the metel frame. That is not enough.
It's dangerous
Stop spreading false information you clearly know nothing about 😊
You are obviously guessing much of the time. "I would argue..." " I suspect..." "It may enhance..." I don't care about your guesses.
This is a serious subject. It borders on immorality to grab for eyeballs on a subject like safety while guessing. You've got some good points to make, but your polluting that content with guesses, filler. Stop it.
Lame background; mindlessly attempting to attract Tesla fanboys. Makes me sick... despite having good content.
Made me not want to watch.
That was just a rant, and it looks like you never took a breath. Do you want suggestions? Don't even bother ranting would be my first. Next, I am wondering if Aptera founders ever intended to produce it, and all their safety talk and promises of testing are just to get money now. Next, you say carbon fibre is strong, but not the toothpase form that CPC uses. You should know it's far weaker than the sheet fibre method. You should also know that is why the CPC body has had a stel roll cage added. If you don't know these facts, you really shouldn't be misleading people. Hence the first suggestion.
Claiming rear-enders being the most common means Aptera could be most of the vehicles doing the rear-ending. In that case, if they hit any tray backed ute or truck, that tray is going to take the heads off the Aptera occupants, as that low crumple zone rides under the tray and the window is their only protection. However, there's no point speculating, because at this stage we don't know whether a silly trike will ever be built to sell. You don't enrol your newborns into Yale, do you?
@@TailosiveEV I click on all videos that mislead the gullible, and try to dissuade the greedy jerks who put their chance at getting their promo code used above bare minimum ethics they should have, and don't. I also try to teach some of the readers not to be so gullible as to swallow your guff. Speculation can be done properly without gutter tactics. Now shape up.