I was there 3000 years ago. When the obsidian steed reigned over my people Edit: Thanks for the likes, also I didn't "like" AW It was the call of duty that had the most horrendous microtransactions. I had my fun with it but it alone sets the bar for how bad microtransactions can get for me.
@@Twist-kj2fbthey did mastery prestige’s where every prestige you got a elite weapon. Obisiden steed was the first one at first mastery prestige, the Goliath speakeasy and all that.
I prefer this being not that good over being OP. People who use this gun will only be people who really likes it and want to have fun or have AW nostalgia, not everyone over using it to death.
Feels like the appeal of this thing is supposed to be getting a 60 round mag for very little penalty, and then kitting it for accuracy and using it to hold down lanes. Been using it that way and I've found a lot more success with it.
A shadow of its former self, perhaps, but I'd prefer a gun that kinda sucks compared to the absolute best pick in the game with no reason to use anything else.
@@CamperN00b47 yeh if you can’t control the gun at those ranges that makes sense but i personally can and killing in only 5 shots across the map is insane
I have found moderate success with it, in small-medium sized maps. But it certainly seems quite weak considering how wonderful the other AW carryover can be. This gun deserves an upgrade. Still, I find it moderately enjoyable to use despite its shortcomings.
In early advanced warfare there was a theory that they increased the damage of the flash grenade. People thought this because in one of the bal-27's damage ranges it did 33 damage so 3 shots would equal 99 and the 1 damage that a flash grenade did would kill the enemy.
The 33 damage is also why the BAL was used over the AK, despite the AK having a faster initial fire rate. It allowed the BAL to 3 shot with a headshot.
So stupid that they have 150 health, but basically no headshot multipliers on anything. Which means that OHK guns and 9999 firerate guns will ALWAYS reign supreme.
150 health is just dumb. or it should be left to treyarch, who at least provide enemy health bars. MWIII looks terrible since it doesn't have health bars yet has this really slow ttk. and also bc it's so out of place for a 'Modern Warfare' game (alongside the futuristic guns and attachments).
@@kamarwashington it makes the slow ttk look more reasonable and feel more bearable. bocw is the only game that did 150 health right imo. mwiii has burst guns which are kind of pointless using (cos they nerfed them too hard even though they never were one bursts and so never deserved any nerfs) and it looks terrible. it plays/feels better than it looks. gameplay looks boring and bad. i dont hate the game. but i think the ppl who spoke good about mwiii have in reality not realised that it's exaggerated.
Its rof and damage (at least for wz) gets out performed by other guns, however in mp im able to perform pretty well with it, despite it not being that good. Build I got going for it is somewhat speedy attachments below Muzzle: Casus Break 60 round mag Underbarrel: XRK Edge BW-4 Rear grip: Hammer grip Stock: Ardent Tac Stock.
I play hardcore and with the BAL-27, I am getting one of the best KD ratios of any gun I have. Keep it to 3-4 shot bursts and it doesnt move much at all. I absolutely love it.
I personally think it's good when they come out with mediocre guns because the meta or bad players can't just abuse the weapon when it comes out and good players will still dominate lobbies with mediocre weapons
I got interstellar unlocked on the BAL last night, and can confirm this gun is indeed butt cheeks in 6v6. You’ll get consistently outgunned in a lot of situations. It’s fun to use otherwise.
Id say it's not bad, I'm having a ton of success. It's definitely mid though. No where near meta, or even exceptional. It's feels like.. a standard gun. I'm having fun with it and if it gets buffed, even better. The unique sight is pretty bad though, the zoom is higher than you'd expect
It has the zoom of a holo sight. All the holo sights have an unstated zoom multiplier on them, I actually tend to use them on long range AR and BR builds
Haven’t gotten to try it in MP yet (been on a trip away from my Xbox the last couple days). My initial impression from the video is that it seems like it’d be a decent option for aggressive objective play. Your thoughts? Also, I play primarily HC Dom and Hardpoint, if that helps.
@@kiezer21 HC this gun is seriously impressive. The initial shots are really accurate, and really powerful. Core game modes it struggles, but it is really consistent. Consistently mid, but consistent. I'm happy with how it feels, but you'll find a lot of gun fights you'll be at a disadvantage. 60 Round Mag is pretty good, and it's pretty accurate. Those faster shots can be annoying to keep on your opponent, but you shouldn't be doing prolonged fire much anyway.
theres zero reason to use this gun.. heck the fuckin nerfec MCW is better than this thing. beaucse that has the upside of being super accurate with just one attachment if at all
It's interesting that the BAL uses 5.7 pistol ammo it has a super high bullet velocity but moderate low damage and i think that where it does fall short a bit but also i think a lot of people are going into this thinking it's gonna be the same weapon from 10 years ago which it was never going to, but overall it's really good in tac stance.
Hey Ace, Have you had a chance to check the coron squall? I think it got a serious recoil buff. This thing is a laser beam. I'm running the Scratch 20L, sakin grip, bb6 pad, slim line, and 30mag
I don't understand the balancing of this gun. Usually a weapon in COD is balanced by either killing quickly and being inaccurate, or killing slowly but being accurate. The BAL-27 is both slow killing AND inaccurate lol
Honestly kinda surprised it's not that good statistically. I found that in practice it actually performs pretty damn well. The first couple shots are quite accurate for beaming people, and when going for multi kills, u shoot one guy first and then delete the next guy with the ramped up fire rate. It's like the side winder lmg kid but better cuz ur more mobile
Agreed. I love this weapon, it’s actually my best K/D weapon at 1.33 (among the weapons I have a decent amount of kills with). Feels amazing and extremely accurate despite a slow ttk. Kind of like the MCW but better
Which is why I don't just look at stats and actually try to use it in practice. For example, the JAK Outlaw Kit for the Bas B got "nerfed into the ground"... it didn't. Just because the stats say so doesn't really paint the entire story. I've still been able to consistently top my leaderboard and frag out with it. Again like a lot of mechanical things, the issue isn't with the machine, it's a user problem.
You're right, its all in the users hands but when it comes to stats they're also assuming that you are landing every shot in the optimal spots. If you treat guns like matchups where a perfect player with a meta gun goes head to head with a perfect player with the BAL, then the BAL loses. Reality may not work this way because of the reasons you listed, but that matchup knowledge is still more important at the end of the day, and you can't ignore it. You have to make up for what it lacks with a different play style, hampering the flexibility of the gun compared to meta guns.
They should buff the first 5 bullets so that you get a 4 shot kill if any 4 of the first 5 hit but requires 5 shots otherwise. (i.e., The first 5 do 36 each and the others do 30.) To compensate, they could add a bit of open-bolt delay which would also prevent people from abusing the extra initial damage by tap-firing.
(This has been fixed/changed already) There was another weird thing about this gun that I noticed the day it dropped. The extended mag attachment (the 60 round mag) had literally 0 impact on your ADS speed and had only a very minor detrimental impact on the sprint out time. It had basically no severe or even moderate negative impact for using it, which made it super busted.
It impacted you ads speed and sprint to fire speed a decent amount at launch. But did not effect reload speed or mobility like the rest of magazine attachments. Which is still true, it hasn’t been touched
so I can confirm that most of those stats in multiplayer do effect in zombies. I always assume damage worked differently in zombies because of PAP and some other factors but i see that damage is really bad with the BAL-27. no difference between headshots or body shots. i dont even think that deadshot even effects it either.
pretty damn good in hardcore though, it’s a one shot kill from every range. I’ve used it and shoots fast. That combined with controllable recoil makes it deadly in hard-core.
I feel like the Bal was designed to be a mid to long range shredder but the recoil to keep it in check. Haven’t found a setup to make that actually work yet though, might have to do some more experimentation
Try my build; ZEMNH35 Muzzle XRK Bowbreaker Grip 60 Round Mag Channel-M Grip Ardent Tac Stock You can swap 60 rounds for something else but the first 5 shots have virtually no recoil and the visual recoil is next to none. Been able to beam people cross map with no problems so far.
I didn’t want this to be OP but i also didn’t want it to be below average/mid so this is def disappointing i loved using it in AW so for it to only be “ok” is just a slap in the face
Ace could you check that suppressor for the SMG class again as I’ve been noticing the laser is producing a brighter blue beam that it wasn’t doing before the reloaded update and I was curious if it’s now actually visible like the cons state?
I'm the only one who finds it weird how this gun uses 5.7x28mm rounds (aka the same ammo as the PDSW-528 and FSS Hurricane) in Multiplayer and in the Gunsmith, even though its magazine it's clearly modelled with 5.56 rounds on it?
I actually appreciate that a new battle pass gun isn't OP on release. I think if they improved the recoil it could be a fun/niche gun. I don't want to see any changes to ttk everything doesn't need to have a sub 300ms ttk.
Honestly I’m glad it’s bad. So sick of every new weapon being meta for two weeks until it’s nerfed into the ground. Hopefully it’ll get steadily buffed until it’s in a good place like a lot of the bad launch weapons.
I know it’s probably for game balancing but having a assault rifle class weapon with the P-90 magazine nurtured to 30 rounds from 50 and it’s slow ADS speed keep me from using it more
I think it only needs some horizontal recoil reduction. Maybe slightly improve the head shot damage a tiny amount. I mean if the min is 311m/s, and its only slightly slower than that, than it isnt half bad in the ttk.
Just like most guns, the gun itself isn't bad it's the user. Stats aren't everything and having a good proper build is (at least imo) more important than actual stats. The build I've been having the best success with is; ZEMN35 Muzzle XRK Bowbreaker Grip 60 Round Mag Channel-M Grip Ardent Tac Stock The ADS takes a pretty big hit (down to 306ms) but, I've still been able to be pretty aggressive at all ranges. As long as you are on target, the first five bullets have virtually no recoil making it beam across the map. It also has virtually no visual recoil which is really nice for an MnK user such as myself.
Take a similarly skilled user and give them essentially any one of the other full auto mwiii ARs and they’ll be outgunning you far more often than not. Being able to compensate for and play well with a bad gun doesn’t make it a good gun, it just means you’re better than your enemies. I can’t imagine you performing well with that build against similarly skilled players using a meta build since it’s statistically very weak, especially for aggressive play
Wish this guide was available when I was grinding camos for this. No shot at you Ace. But I did figure out that it's better in hardcore mode. Finished the grind there pretty quickly. Keep up the amazing work!
Oh god. Something popped into my head about if the devs wanted to make the BAL-27 more useful. Have the stats of the Obsidian Steed variant from Advance Warfare
Every new gun previous to this gun has been OP. When they finally brought this back i said, this gun has to be OP because it used top be OP........Oh how little did we know they ruined this game from the get go, the recoil is fucking HORRENDOUS
i tried using this gun in core and i was just getting out gunned by everything . i almost wanted to stop using but since this gun still needs interstellar i went and used this gun in hardcore. felt better there. this is not a core gun for sure.
Its baffling im going to have to get the new gold prestige camo on something else hopefully they could just maybe buff the fire rate get that ttk down cuz you will get slapped by damn near everything up close if they are competent
My accuracy is always worse in my later shots. I'd rather have my first 7 or so shots be dead on target rather than a recoil that kind of goes all over the place. I want to kill the enemy before they even have a chance to see me and do the squirm worm to avoid all my shots. Yes, I suck, I'm aware. I think the Bal 27 is great for people who are just not good at finishing fights. Not a great gun for pros at all, considering the slow TTK and lots of harder to control recoil in the later shots.
Ace, have you noticed since the S3R update, it seems like you have more aiming idle sway? It really feels like there is significantly more, as if they reverted the change they made or something.
I just don’t get where it’s supposed to fit into the meta, it’s a bp50- mcw Hybrid but doesn’t have any of the pros of any of the guns it’s mimicking which would be the headshot damage and accuracy.
I personally have good success using this setup: ZEHMN35 COMPENSATED FLASH HIDER CROWN-H3 BARREL SANDBAR HEAVY STOCK CHANNEL M GRIP BRUEN HEAVY SUPPORT GRIP If you prefer an optic just take off the grip for your optic of choice
Hey Ace! If you have some time and room in your schedule to talk about the buffed DG-lsw, that'd be awesome. The recent buff alongside using the aftermarket part feels really good and it'd be interesting to see the damage numbers and breakdowns on your end. Thanks for the consideration!
The game is a buggy mess right now. I play on PC via Steam and the textures and sounds are not loading at all, animations are bugged or missing. Its basicly not playable for me at least. (no. I do not have a bad PC. It worked before. I have an RTX4090 and the game is on an m.2 SSD)
With the new Akimbo shotguns, using this gun is really frustrating. If the damage were good, then maybe it would be worthwhile, but no, it isn't. Not kidding you, 70% of the kills I've gotten with this gun have come from shooting enemies who weren't shooting back
This vs the new bp50 AMP is fucked up. I was using this and got a 4 streak best. Flipped back to bp50AMP and i went on a 26 killstreak on the first life switching lol
This has nothing to do with the video but I think sledgehammer makes the best call of duty games. I don’t like the arcade bounciness of black ops games and infinity ward makes weird decisions nobody likes(although I like mw over bo). Sledgehammer is a mix of the two and it results in the best playing experience imo.
How to make this gun better by a little bit? Make him having X2 or at least X 1,5 headshot multiplier. That's it. Just making headshots as mandatory as possible will make it very powerful in right hands.
That's the thing! People should stop looking at stats and just play with what they feel comfortable. I got a nuke on Skidrow with the damn PP19 Bizon, who's using the Bizon??
@@erm221bruh how the actual hell did you get a nuke with this damn SBMM unless you’re playing with friends who suck or reverse boost I just don’t see how. You must be one of them sweaty PC players jumping around huh? Not hating genuinely curious
@@BrokenToyTCG Im currently playing on PS4 with controller, I guess im not that sweaty really, I just know a lot about some maps and play with whatever I want an looks cool. SBMM gets me wrecked, but sometimes I get lucky, that was one of those times, rushing people around spawns with quick fix, I wish there was Specialists Streaks
@@BrokenToyTCG bro it’s not that hard lol I’m 650 with a 1.7 K/D I dropped a nuke yesterday with the BP50 playing solo hard point , just gotta make sure your playing for it and not just running around like a full on idiot
Pretty bad? I usually agree with you but you're dead wrong this time. I was having a hard time warming up today and realized i hadn't really lvled the bal yet, started running it, started mercin immediately
I was there 3000 years ago. When the obsidian steed reigned over my people
Edit: Thanks for the likes, also I didn't "like" AW It was the call of duty that had the most horrendous microtransactions. I had my fun with it but it alone sets the bar for how bad microtransactions can get for me.
Me too
Bal of duty obsidian warfare
I was prestige 12 and never got it to drop once....
@@Twist-kj2fbthey did mastery prestige’s where every prestige you got a elite weapon. Obisiden steed was the first one at first mastery prestige, the Goliath speakeasy and all that.
lol if i told people in 2014 that in the future Advanced Warfare will somehow be looked at with fondness from fans i'd be called crazy
Don’t worry guys, the jak kit is coming👀 The obsidian steed will return
why they released this gun without that as a blueprint is beyond me..
@@vlxxrd4866probably to get people to use the gun as is and level it up.
Jaks are the worst. Because if the jak is broken warzone does not hold back and the devs just completely destroy it in the ground with the nerfs lol
Jak inferno and jak obsidian steed both have to come
Either that, or it will be like the Bal Inferno.
This is actually shocking considering the track record of newer CODs with new guns.
Near enough every new gun released into mw3 has been mid - awful
@@OMGItzSlickerzpeople only remember/care about the broken ones
Nah you're just a professional crier@@OMGItzSlickerz
Tbf there’s a few outliers that are absolutely horrible
I prefer this being not that good over being OP.
People who use this gun will only be people who really likes it and want to have fun or have AW nostalgia, not everyone over using it to death.
You know what they say.. a new gun is only as good as the latest update..
or something
Feels like the appeal of this thing is supposed to be getting a 60 round mag for very little penalty, and then kitting it for accuracy and using it to hold down lanes. Been using it that way and I've found a lot more success with it.
I feel ya. 60 Rounds is a must esp on smaller maps
Its a mosterin Hardcore
I usually run and gun with it, though I play hc it is quick and relatively accurate and that's all that matters to me
Remember when this was the sweatlord's weapon of choice back in Advanced Warfare?
A shadow of its former self, perhaps, but I'd prefer a gun that kinda sucks compared to the absolute best pick in the game with no reason to use anything else.
Inferno, Obsidian Steed - two names that I will never forget.
Bonus points if you found someone using either of those with the Oath Breaker Atlas 45.
@@farenhitegr6493what about the speakeasy?
Sucks in warzone
Sadly yes
The ramping ROF + the mediocre TTK combo makes that reload so excruciating, trying to use this at mid-range & beyond is no bueno.
At least it "Carries a significant amount of ammo thanks to a tri-stack magazine" so surely the base magazine size is huge.... right?
@@Dosino_ >mfw base mag is 30 😔
its really good at long range it kills in 5 shots
@@jargbish I mean, I'd have an easier time at that range with all other ARs except maybe MTZ-556.
@@CamperN00b47 yeh if you can’t control the gun at those ranges that makes sense but i personally can and killing in only 5 shots across the map is insane
I have found moderate success with it, in small-medium sized maps. But it certainly seems quite weak considering how wonderful the other AW carryover can be.
This gun deserves an upgrade. Still, I find it moderately enjoyable to use despite its shortcomings.
Im old as fuck when we are starting to get nostalgia reduc guns from Advanced Warfare of all games
It feels a little underwhelming in MP but i feel like its a beast in Zombies mode, cakewalking T3 zone with it the last few days
Ye zombies its hella fun
Exactly what I thought, zombies gun. Went from level 1-19 in one run no zone 3 with a liability bad player noob I was babysitting
In early advanced warfare there was a theory that they increased the damage of the flash grenade. People thought this because in one of the bal-27's damage ranges it did 33 damage so 3 shots would equal 99 and the 1 damage that a flash grenade did would kill the enemy.
The 33 damage is also why the BAL was used over the AK, despite the AK having a faster initial fire rate. It allowed the BAL to 3 shot with a headshot.
@@betterbiohazard u just gave me a flashback to a drift0r vid i watched 10 years ago
Advanced Warfare was a strange game for this reason
So stupid that they have 150 health, but basically no headshot multipliers on anything. Which means that OHK guns and 9999 firerate guns will ALWAYS reign supreme.
I’d much rather go back to 100 HP and have the TTK be somewhere between 200-300ms on average rather than what we have now.
Yeah i don’t like 150 hp games, the mw2 guns still suck
150 health is just dumb. or it should be left to treyarch, who at least provide enemy health bars. MWIII looks terrible since it doesn't have health bars yet has this really slow ttk. and also bc it's so out of place for a 'Modern Warfare' game (alongside the futuristic guns and attachments).
@@bobdarrick2628Cod hasn’t had health bars for most of its lifetime. The health bars are out of place when they’re there. It’s distracting to me
@@kamarwashington it makes the slow ttk look more reasonable and feel more bearable. bocw is the only game that did 150 health right imo. mwiii has burst guns which are kind of pointless using (cos they nerfed them too hard even though they never were one bursts and so never deserved any nerfs) and it looks terrible. it plays/feels better than it looks. gameplay looks boring and bad. i dont hate the game. but i think the ppl who spoke good about mwiii have in reality not realised that it's exaggerated.
This breakdown was surprising! Felt like it was really good when I was grinding the camo challenges.
Its rof and damage (at least for wz) gets out performed by other guns, however in mp im able to perform pretty well with it, despite it not being that good. Build I got going for it is somewhat speedy attachments below
Muzzle: Casus Break
60 round mag
Underbarrel: XRK Edge BW-4
Rear grip: Hammer grip
Stock: Ardent Tac Stock.
Bad??
I been getting wrecked by this thing
Are you confusing it with the bp-50?
Cause everyone’s spamming it when they hear it’s not meta it’ll disappear till it gets buffed Call Of Meta is just like this lol
that just means you're bad
BP-50 Jak is the only gun anyone is using in multiplayer besides akibo shottys on shipment
Me too. I think we just suck
I've been loving the bal in MW3. Already have the one trick camo unlocked too 😅
I play hardcore and with the BAL-27, I am getting one of the best KD ratios of any gun I have. Keep it to 3-4 shot bursts and it doesnt move much at all. I absolutely love it.
I personally think it's good when they come out with mediocre guns because the meta or bad players can't just abuse the weapon when it comes out and good players will still dominate lobbies with mediocre weapons
This!
I got interstellar unlocked on the BAL last night, and can confirm this gun is indeed butt cheeks in 6v6. You’ll get consistently outgunned in a lot of situations. It’s fun to use otherwise.
Yeah, probably easiest gun to get to interstellar, ever. change of pace, you have to use the strengths -- longrange.
8:42 Now that's some hardcore camping right there...bravo...
And I thought I was the only one who see that, I also was paying attention to the mini map as well and bro was still in the corner till end of the vid
@@zyiondotson9447 you talking about the dude taking a dump?
Yup 😂
Id say it's not bad, I'm having a ton of success.
It's definitely mid though. No where near meta, or even exceptional. It's feels like.. a standard gun.
I'm having fun with it and if it gets buffed, even better. The unique sight is pretty bad though, the zoom is higher than you'd expect
It has the zoom of a holo sight. All the holo sights have an unstated zoom multiplier on them, I actually tend to use them on long range AR and BR builds
Haven’t gotten to try it in MP yet (been on a trip away from my Xbox the last couple days). My initial impression from the video is that it seems like it’d be a decent option for aggressive objective play. Your thoughts?
Also, I play primarily HC Dom and Hardpoint, if that helps.
@@kiezer21 HC this gun is seriously impressive. The initial shots are really accurate, and really powerful.
Core game modes it struggles, but it is really consistent. Consistently mid, but consistent.
I'm happy with how it feels, but you'll find a lot of gun fights you'll be at a disadvantage. 60 Round Mag is pretty good, and it's pretty accurate. Those faster shots can be annoying to keep on your opponent, but you shouldn't be doing prolonged fire much anyway.
theres zero reason to use this gun.. heck the fuckin nerfec MCW is better than this thing. beaucse that has the upside of being super accurate with just one attachment if at all
It's interesting that the BAL uses 5.7 pistol ammo it has a super high bullet velocity but moderate low damage and i think that where it does fall short a bit but also i think a lot of people are going into this thinking it's gonna be the same weapon from 10 years ago which it was never going to, but overall it's really good in tac stance.
Hey Ace,
Have you had a chance to check the coron squall? I think it got a serious recoil buff. This thing is a laser beam.
I'm running the Scratch 20L, sakin grip, bb6 pad, slim line, and 30mag
Thanks for the class man.
I don't understand the balancing of this gun. Usually a weapon in COD is balanced by either killing quickly and being inaccurate, or killing slowly but being accurate. The BAL-27 is both slow killing AND inaccurate lol
Honestly kinda surprised it's not that good statistically. I found that in practice it actually performs pretty damn well. The first couple shots are quite accurate for beaming people, and when going for multi kills, u shoot one guy first and then delete the next guy with the ramped up fire rate. It's like the side winder lmg kid but better cuz ur more mobile
Agreed. I love this weapon, it’s actually my best K/D weapon at 1.33 (among the weapons I have a decent amount of kills with). Feels amazing and extremely accurate despite a slow ttk. Kind of like the MCW but better
Which is why I don't just look at stats and actually try to use it in practice. For example, the JAK Outlaw Kit for the Bas B got "nerfed into the ground"... it didn't. Just because the stats say so doesn't really paint the entire story. I've still been able to consistently top my leaderboard and frag out with it. Again like a lot of mechanical things, the issue isn't with the machine, it's a user problem.
You're right, its all in the users hands but when it comes to stats they're also assuming that you are landing every shot in the optimal spots.
If you treat guns like matchups where a perfect player with a meta gun goes head to head with a perfect player with the BAL, then the BAL loses.
Reality may not work this way because of the reasons you listed, but that matchup knowledge is still more important at the end of the day, and you can't ignore it. You have to make up for what it lacks with a different play style, hampering the flexibility of the gun compared to meta guns.
The buffs have made this gun pretty good now, range damage increase withe low recoil makes it lethal in the right hands.
What's with these damn bot comments holy.
Also a shame to hear the ball is not that great...
They should buff the first 5 bullets so that you get a 4 shot kill if any 4 of the first 5 hit but requires 5 shots otherwise. (i.e., The first 5 do 36 each and the others do 30.) To compensate, they could add a bit of open-bolt delay which would also prevent people from abusing the extra initial damage by tap-firing.
(This has been fixed/changed already) There was another weird thing about this gun that I noticed the day it dropped. The extended mag attachment (the 60 round mag) had literally 0 impact on your ADS speed and had only a very minor detrimental impact on the sprint out time. It had basically no severe or even moderate negative impact for using it, which made it super busted.
It impacted you ads speed and sprint to fire speed a decent amount at launch. But did not effect reload speed or mobility like the rest of magazine attachments. Which is still true, it hasn’t been touched
@@emwols I experienced something different. Could have been a localized bug/issue but it was definitely there.
Miss the Bal obsidian steed from AW, fun ass game.
Ngl it was so overhated but that was the most fun I’ve had in any cod
Normally he new guns don't feel amazing to me if any at all, but I like this bal and the bp50 rn
the great range means you can treat it as a dump stat and maybe pair the comps that harm your range
so I can confirm that most of those stats in multiplayer do effect in zombies. I always assume damage worked differently in zombies because of PAP and some other factors but i see that damage is really bad with the BAL-27. no difference between headshots or body shots. i dont even think that deadshot even effects it either.
pretty damn good in hardcore though, it’s a one shot kill from every range. I’ve used it and shoots fast. That combined with controllable recoil makes it deadly in hard-core.
I feel like the Bal was designed to be a mid to long range shredder but the recoil to keep it in check. Haven’t found a setup to make that actually work yet though, might have to do some more experimentation
Try my build;
ZEMNH35 Muzzle
XRK Bowbreaker Grip
60 Round Mag
Channel-M Grip
Ardent Tac Stock
You can swap 60 rounds for something else but the first 5 shots have virtually no recoil and the visual recoil is next to none. Been able to beam people cross map with no problems so far.
I didn’t want this to be OP but i also didn’t want it to be below average/mid so this is def disappointing
i loved using it in AW so for it to only be “ok” is just a slap in the face
Why the Bal doesn't have a 32 round mag base is beyond me when the AW version did . . .
Ace could you check that suppressor for the SMG class again as I’ve been noticing the laser is producing a brighter blue beam that it wasn’t doing before the reloaded update and I was curious if it’s now actually visible like the cons state?
can we get a strafe build for the MCW? It didnt work when u made the cutthroat stock video but now it does
What is that camo you have on the BAL-27 Stealth Build Ace?! That shit looks so nice.
I'm the only one who finds it weird how this gun uses 5.7x28mm rounds (aka the same ammo as the PDSW-528 and FSS Hurricane) in Multiplayer and in the Gunsmith, even though its magazine it's clearly modelled with 5.56 rounds on it?
That’s what allows it to have the high velocity
I actually appreciate that a new battle pass gun isn't OP on release. I think if they improved the recoil it could be a fun/niche gun. I don't want to see any changes to ttk everything doesn't need to have a sub 300ms ttk.
Honestly I’m glad it’s bad. So sick of every new weapon being meta for two weeks until it’s nerfed into the ground. Hopefully it’ll get steadily buffed until it’s in a good place like a lot of the bad launch weapons.
I think he forgot to put this video in his gun guide playlist.
I know it’s probably for game balancing but having a assault rifle class weapon with the P-90 magazine nurtured to 30 rounds from 50 and it’s slow ADS speed keep me from using it more
I think it only needs some horizontal recoil reduction. Maybe slightly improve the head shot damage a tiny amount. I mean if the min is 311m/s, and its only slightly slower than that, than it isnt half bad in the ttk.
I only play Hardcore Domination and this gun is a proper Beast in that category.
Ive been telling my friends that it doesnt do enough damage for how slow the first couple shots are
Just like most guns, the gun itself isn't bad it's the user. Stats aren't everything and having a good proper build is (at least imo) more important than actual stats. The build I've been having the best success with is;
ZEMN35 Muzzle
XRK Bowbreaker Grip
60 Round Mag
Channel-M Grip
Ardent Tac Stock
The ADS takes a pretty big hit (down to 306ms) but, I've still been able to be pretty aggressive at all ranges. As long as you are on target, the first five bullets have virtually no recoil making it beam across the map. It also has virtually no visual recoil which is really nice for an MnK user such as myself.
Take a similarly skilled user and give them essentially any one of the other full auto mwiii ARs and they’ll be outgunning you far more often than not. Being able to compensate for and play well with a bad gun doesn’t make it a good gun, it just means you’re better than your enemies. I can’t imagine you performing well with that build against similarly skilled players using a meta build since it’s statistically very weak, especially for aggressive play
Wish this guide was available when I was grinding camos for this. No shot at you Ace. But I did figure out that it's better in hardcore mode. Finished the grind there pretty quickly. Keep up the amazing work!
I'm ok with a new gun being not op. This looks good for warzone tho
No headshot bonus damage is so ridiculous
Never dropped the obsidian steed, but the inferno was my boy (1000 rof)
This one sucked getting camos for
I think it’s actually decent because of its range. If you use it medium-long range mainly, you’ll mostly outgun people. In my experience
This gun with the current desync issue makes it feel SOOOO strong against me. I wonder how it’ll be after the desync is fixed.
It's an incredibly disappointing weapon given how fantastic the Mors and FXJ are
Oh god. Something popped into my head about if the devs wanted to make the BAL-27 more useful. Have the stats of the Obsidian Steed variant from Advance Warfare
Your pfp is so good 💕
They could make it even worse and add an Obsidian Steed aftermarket part for it instead lol.
Launch weak but they be buffing
@TheXclusiveAce will there be a video about the new AW Gen 1 optic? I’m loving it.
Every new gun previous to this gun has been OP. When they finally brought this back i said, this gun has to be OP because it used top be OP........Oh how little did we know they ruined this game from the get go, the recoil is fucking HORRENDOUS
You should make a spreadsheet for all the ttk stats with aftermarket parts and all the guns since its getting hectic remembering all the stats lol
Hard agree. Having like 170 guns not including additional weapons from AMPS.... it's getting messy
@@DoomJoy666 i use m13b because thats decent or good in all stat categories. And it would be hard to compare m16 aftermarket part with it
100% agree. There is a trigger delay. Recoil isn't the best and it's slow. Plus the attachments are one extreme or the other imo
i tried using this gun in core and i was just getting out gunned by everything . i almost wanted to stop using but since this gun still needs interstellar i went and used this gun in hardcore. felt better there. this is not a core gun for sure.
Its baffling im going to have to get the new gold prestige camo on something else hopefully they could just maybe buff the fire rate get that ttk down cuz you will get slapped by damn near everything up close if they are competent
My accuracy is always worse in my later shots. I'd rather have my first 7 or so shots be dead on target rather than a recoil that kind of goes all over the place. I want to kill the enemy before they even have a chance to see me and do the squirm worm to avoid all my shots. Yes, I suck, I'm aware.
I think the Bal 27 is great for people who are just not good at finishing fights. Not a great gun for pros at all, considering the slow TTK and lots of harder to control recoil in the later shots.
These builds are horrible. Lol so many better builds for it.
You say this every time without ever providing a better setup
Ace, have you noticed since the S3R update, it seems like you have more aiming idle sway? It really feels like there is significantly more, as if they reverted the change they made or something.
This is really fun in HC.
I just don’t get where it’s supposed to fit into the meta, it’s a bp50- mcw Hybrid but doesn’t have any of the pros of any of the guns it’s mimicking which would be the headshot damage and accuracy.
I personally have good success using this setup:
ZEHMN35 COMPENSATED FLASH HIDER
CROWN-H3 BARREL
SANDBAR HEAVY STOCK
CHANNEL M GRIP
BRUEN HEAVY SUPPORT GRIP
If you prefer an optic just take off the grip for your optic of choice
Hey Ace! If you have some time and room in your schedule to talk about the buffed DG-lsw, that'd be awesome. The recent buff alongside using the aftermarket part feels really good and it'd be interesting to see the damage numbers and breakdowns on your end.
Thanks for the consideration!
I just want them to add the only weapon that matters aka the Blunderbuss. It needs to be in all of their games it is their trademark weapon.
Yeah it kinda sucks, but everyone is using it and it’s turned into an advanced warfare bal-27 sweatfest
The game is a buggy mess right now.
I play on PC via Steam and the textures and sounds are not loading at all, animations are bugged or missing.
Its basicly not playable for me at least.
(no. I do not have a bad PC. It worked before. I have an RTX4090 and the game is on an m.2 SSD)
Bad.. i've been getting 2 hit kill's from sniper range with this thing... oh wait i play hardcore. yeah.. core suck's....
With the new Akimbo shotguns, using this gun is really frustrating. If the damage were good, then maybe it would be worthwhile, but no, it isn't. Not kidding you, 70% of the kills I've gotten with this gun have come from shooting enemies who weren't shooting back
This vs the new bp50 AMP is fucked up. I was using this and got a 4 streak best. Flipped back to bp50AMP and i went on a 26 killstreak on the first life switching lol
the TTK performance is poor, the recoil is way too wobbly and it doesn't even sound unique, it just sounds like the MTZ-556
This has nothing to do with the video but I think sledgehammer makes the best call of duty games. I don’t like the arcade bounciness of black ops games and infinity ward makes weird decisions nobody likes(although I like mw over bo). Sledgehammer is a mix of the two and it results in the best playing experience imo.
How to make this gun better by a little bit?
Make him having X2 or at least X 1,5 headshot multiplier. That's it. Just making headshots as mandatory as possible will make it very powerful in right hands.
That would be insanely broken
This gun DESPERATELY needs a buff. Its laughably bad by every single metric
its bad? it absolutely melts for me lol. Not only did i gold it in one day, but i also got the mastery camo on it. amazing gun
That's the thing! People should stop looking at stats and just play with what they feel comfortable. I got a nuke on Skidrow with the damn PP19 Bizon, who's using the Bizon??
@@erm221bruh how the actual hell did you get a nuke with this damn SBMM unless you’re playing with friends who suck or reverse boost I just don’t see how. You must be one of them sweaty PC players jumping around huh? Not hating genuinely curious
Yeah statically it's not very good but it feels pretty okay once you get used to it it's like the MCW
@@BrokenToyTCG Im currently playing on PS4 with controller, I guess im not that sweaty really, I just know a lot about some maps and play with whatever I want an looks cool. SBMM gets me wrecked, but sometimes I get lucky, that was one of those times, rushing people around spawns with quick fix, I wish there was Specialists Streaks
@@BrokenToyTCG bro it’s not that hard lol I’m 650 with a 1.7 K/D I dropped a nuke yesterday with the BP50 playing solo hard point , just gotta make sure your playing for it and not just running around like a full on idiot
This gun is boring. It has not standout features. Just a mediocre assault rifle. Really was expecting something more exciting.
do you have to buy battle pass to get the BAL. Mine stopped advancing when I got to it! I'm stuck at 97% complete. thnx
what did people expect?? 1 shotting machine gun????
go play your old cods with the worst gunsmith ever
If this weapon was going to take that many shots to get a kill, they should've made the Bal like the Inferno variant from Advanced Warfare.
I thought it was me and my skill level because I know new guns are usually good but even in zombies it felt underwhelming. Guess they’ll buff later
I don’t think the gun is bad at all. It really depends on the build though. My build is a is doing me well. Better than my MCW currently.
Pretty bad? I usually agree with you but you're dead wrong this time.
I was having a hard time warming up today and realized i hadn't really lvled the bal yet, started running it, started mercin immediately
Who cares about the stats, WHAT HAPPENED TO MY RELOAD SOUND
Th real curse is the fact that this gun is chambered in 5.7mm and is considered an AR. Sledgehammer WTF?
Miss the days the Bal Obsidian Steed and the asm1 speak easy dominated the game 🥲
I dunno. But this gun melts in HC mode. Already got my prestige camo with interstellar.
I thought it was pretty good. My biggest problem with it is that you can't put a secondary weapon on it. As in a flamethrower or grenade launcher
it suk 😅
Hmm, one of those cases where performance and testing don’t quite match up. I’ve been having a lot of success with it
This gun has barely any Sprint Out Time attachment.. it’s stupidly bad.
This shit is just a glorified P90 lmao is not horrible to the point of being useless, is just painfully mid, at least 3 or 4 ARs outplay this gun
ive been popping off with this gun in hardcore!
Buddy it’s hardcore… no shit