Customer states "CSW DID TIMING BELT NOW WILL NOT START!?"🤔😨🤬😉
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- Hey guys, today we have a 2004 Lexus Ls430 that we are replacing a timing belt and water pump. We take it up top to look around and we go through some tips and tricks when performing a timing belt service. SOMETHING WENT WRONG! ENGINE WILL NOT START AFTER TIMING BELT REPLACED! CSW made a slight GOOMBA move? Enjoy!
You’re the epitome of what a good mechanic in a dealership looks like and a good role model as well, very good!!
Do you watch 1a auto on youtube
I love how you are not afraid to show your mistakes. Another excellent job!
Right on, Man. The world needs more skilled, honest auto techs. Keep up the good work. The new guys are watching and learning from you.
I have the same car, mechanics denied this job because it's too risky...
I work on cars and trucks all day and then i come home and watch dudes working on cars. Mostly because i like to learn but i also enjoy the banter. Keep up the good work
all finished after a complex job and...no start. Heart drops and the thoughts roll to the drum beat of "Oh crap what did I forget" lol.
Most impressive is that he is doing the job with the efficiency standard the dealer wants while making these videos
Really? How many SC timing belts have you done, or watched being done in a Lexus service department? Thought so.
I have a love/hate for all timing kit changes. They're always massively anxiety inducing to triple check that everything's lined up but man. When you turn it over, the anxiety disappears & comes a wash of god damn joy hearing that the vehicle is actually running so smooth. Awesome job CSW
Crapped myself last time I did mine and the engine didn't start , luckily I had just missed plugging a multiplug in , big phew moment when it started.
A dealer in FL did this service on my 4.7L and forgot to route the harness to the crank sensor properly. The belt eventually cut through the wires and left me stranded a month after the service. Goombas are everywhere! At least you caught it.
THANK YOU!!!!You are the first mechanic on RUclips that I have seen protect the radiator while working on the front of the engine.
What a PITA! OMG. Thanks for taking us along for your ride!
This is honestly news to me. Being in the aftermarket world, my rule of thumb on first inspection is "plastic cover, timing belt. Aluminum cover, chain." Seeing you pull the aluminum cover to expose a belt is honestly something I've never seen before! love it.
Forever I assumed Mazda MX-5 (Miata) had a timing chain, having seen enough engine photos of them. then I owned one... it's a belt. You'd never know by looking at it.
Apparently someone already made the goomba move of hitting the radiator already. LOL! Keep up the good work!
Your videos and the rain man ray are most entertaining and informative automotive videos on the RUclipss, thanks
I feel the anxiety on 1st start up. My Gx470 was having cooling issues 3 days before Christmas. I knew I was getting close enough to the 90k mark so I did the job in my shop. That 1st start up always scares the hell out of me. I turned it over just as many times as you and still I prayed to every higher power that it starts hahaha. I've done these multiple times, that feeling just doesn't go away I guess. Great video as always.
me too when I did my first timing job on my own acura tl, I let it ran over an hour to make sure it didnt leak haha
I am always amazed on critical parts replacement that customers spec aftermarket parts.
With the amount of disassembly you had to do just to get to the timing belt, you’d think the 4 rings designed the engine compartment 🤣 As always, great job!
If you're lucky the studs come out with the nuts on the PS pump and alternator when removing the idler to save you from removing those items. Lol
Third times a charm had no doubt it was gonna start on this take well done and another happy customer….
Great work! I’ve done a good number of tbelts for a DIYer and this one looks like a pita with all the accessories that have to come off. I am surprised to see so much aftermarket parts in use. I personally would have gone OEM or maybe an Aisin kit. Surprised your dealer doesn’t force OEM.
It needs to be done that day.
Aisin kits are the way to Go.
@@55azguy are Aisin kits only for Toyota/Lexus products or for Honda’s, too?
@@axjohn No Aisin makes them for a lot of cars. I used one on our Honda Pilot (J35) for example.
You want to see a pain in the ass? Replace the timing chains on a 1997 Ford Mustang Cobra with a 4.6 liter D.O.H.C. mod motor... 😵
I won't do that again.
Nice to see all of the important components included in that NAPA kit. That engine should outlive the rest of the car now. Of course all of the external accessories will go for a crap but the engine should keep on ticking. Nice to see how its done.
“CONTACT” 😃 for variety try “CLEAR PROP” for another aviation touch!
Love the inclusion of the ‘Goombah’ moments. 🍺
Looked pretty good for a 2004! Most cars this old are moving piles of favor at this point!
I have an '03 ES300 with 220K, and is like new, minus some very minor battle scars on the body. Toyota builds their cars with pride and great workmanship.
@@jamesb8305 I had an '05 Durango before my Audi, and the favor was strong with it. lol
@@jamesb8305 My 2001 Toyota P/U has 217k miles is the same . It has been maintained and no rust at all . One good thing about living in the south and away from the ocean salt water and salt covered snowy roads .
CSW: "It's through the hole! It's through the hole!"
Bill Murray from "Caddyshack" smiles.
(12 seconds later....)
CSW: "All right, you bastard, fire, fire, fire!"
(from the movie "Marooned")
Very good, I learned some more things I didn't know! Thumbs up!
I got a peaceful, easy feeling watching this vid .
So... how many radiators got a hole punched in them before you learned the cardboard trick? 😀 Seriously, I'm always impressed at how thorough you are with these repairs. And that engine sounds better than many do brand new, and it's got 250k miles? As far as the goomba move on the start attempts, I've done plenty of major repairs on IT equipment, pushed the power button and... nothing. Or it powers up with all kinds of errors. D'oh! Forgot that one connector!
I personally have done it twice in 16 years. Both doing recalls.
Pushes button. It doesn't work. Plugged in? NOPE! DOH!! Done it a couple of times doing computer work over the years. As an old rule goes: It works better if you plug it in. I also wen to a service call where somebody disconnected a power cord from an outlet under a desk ("Excuse me, Miss, I'll need to get under your desk for a minute to check out your legs...power cords!")
Crazy that some places require such a deep inspection on cars! I've only lived in 2 states and one I didn't even need an emission test, the other just checks emission and for codes but nothing physical of the car - no tires, no cracked windows, no inspecting of anything beyond digital data 🤷♀️
Most of Europe the inspection is far stricter than it appears to be anywhere in the USA. Wheel bearing like that would be an instant fail.
Those inspections are useless. It's just another money making machine the corrupt states use.
@@bikerz3857 Never mind about breathable air or vehicle safety, it's a conspiracy, I tell ya! Next thing they'll want us to wear masks durin' a pandemic or sumtin'!
Would you get on an aircraft where there was no reasonable level of inspection?
@@katywalker8322 I would NEVER get on an aircraft built to STATE standards as I bet they would make them lower than federal standards. And yeah, they should be inspected with as much detail and precision as we see with the tech behind CSW? going over the cars in his care.
My car, however, doesn't transport hundreds of people at one time, have an entire board of buttons/switches, and require years of training to maneuver properly, but I would like to see more inspections performed on vehicles in the south, and especially more scrutiny put on drivers down that way since so many of them drive like they won their license out of a cracker jack box. I still don't understand how my insurance was so cheap when I lived there despite all the bumpers that litter the side of the expressways in the Atlanta metro...?
Uncle Remus said it is a year latter and still fun. Cheers!
"Japanese metal doesn't rust as fast as German metal."
Truth
You have to remove the a/c compressor on the 3.5l 2grfe to get the belt tensioner off aswell, but at least it has a timing chain!
I bet the failure to restart was a HMMMMMM moment or 2 for you, enjoyed seeing this longer video mate love your work your professional attitude and your dedication.
Keep safe Keep Strong Hugs from Australia
U R the GOOMBA!!!! Good times! You learn from your mistakes!
Howzit from South Africa love your work and videos!
0:48 - Don Henley coming for yo ass, CSW!!
glad i hate engines with timing belts ,,none in my car collection ...you do very good work
Even after triple checking I accidentally left an earth strap off after an engine rebuild, the first crank to build oil pressure used the fuel injector earths for cranking current. The wires got very hot, the insulation very crispy.
That's a terrible design.
I just did the timing belt on my 03 lexus ls430. You didn't need to unbolt the power steering pump. 😊
That was almost "grounds" for dismissal. Nice job.
"Ask me how I know".....lol Thanks for the Eagles background music!!
10:42 is gold 🤣 great video 👍
at least you are honest. good video
Brings back memories of when I had to rebuild one, boss took care of the American & I the imports expensive rebuild. Good days in the car quest machine shop
Ya goombah! HAHAHA!!! Glad you got it sorted. Great work, sir!
Imagining ur expression once the car started ✌️👌✌️✌️👌✌️👌✌️👌✌️
Customer- "I need a new timing belt"
Mechanic- proceeds to disassemble the entire engine
Two Tacoma manuals advise against DIY timing belt replacement, unless you already know the procedure. ($280 labor plus parts).
NO engine ground - "You Goomba" All kidding aside a great and informative video. "Very Good"
Pesky engine grounds, I forgot the little brown ecu ground on an audi, the cluster said "push clutch to start engine", and it was an automatic 😵
Cluster: TILT!!
"Take 3............Please Start?" I think we've all been there
In other words, they threw a timing belt onto the assembly line and built a Lexus around it.
NAPA belt kit looked like a reboxed Gates kit, which is good. NTN bearings/ idlers, probably OE. Water pump looked like an Aisin, also OE. These lower volume engines, typically it isn't cost effective for the aftermarket to tool up for parts, so they just source OE direct from the manufacturers.
That GOOMBA move at the end, as a service writer will give you GRAY HAIRS FAST! Glad I'm out of the business!
I'm doing this exact job on Tuesday. Thanks for the video.
My first car was a '77 VW Rabbit. The EA827 engine in this car debuted in 1972 and versions of it are still produced to this day. I've had several, to include a Porsche 928 with the "Gilmer" belt SOHC setup. I know the advantages of sound and lack of lubrication are good things, but these HAVE to be changed eventually and the notion that a piece of rubber is keeping the valves from hitting the pistons and thus destroying the engine to the tune of $8000 has always bothered me. I'll buy cars with Gilmer belts but I don't like the idea; My current two cars both have flat 6 engines and both have chain driven DOHC heads. I prefer chains.
CSW Thank you for leaving in the goof up's. I saw the battery cable and was yelling "Hey you guys!'" like in the goonies, and said I bet he forgot that and the engines ground plus I would have myself, ask me how I know? lol Good job brother, and what a beauty of a car with that many miles. :)
Stock freak here…you should use OEM Aisin parts
Damn, what a pain of a job to replace the timing belt! How many hours of labor?
Goto say it you said Chain Tensioner that woke me up!
We all go through the goobah moves! That's the great thing about being human!
that motor looks a lot like the 2uz-fe on a tundra, just a 4.7 instead of a 4.3. A customer changed his own timing belt, but when he was re-installing everything he munched the CKP sensor and shorted it out.
I forgot to tighten down my ground bolt on my Acura last week doing the same job. My mistake was worse because the ground was on top right in my face. Apparently telling yourself not to forget to tighten the ground a thousand times isn’t as effective as I would have liked. 😂😂😂
love these vids brother, great info as always
I have this exact car, did the first timing belt in December at 120K.
Great job! Those jobs are nightmares! My brother did his kia and the belt slipped off after the install, jumped timing ruined the motor after a few 1,000 miles.
On those engines you're supposed to set the timing of the cams to the " T " mark, that way you're not risking to go against the spring pressure and one or both cams can rotate suddenly with the T-belt removed...thus potentially hitting the valves and bend them...
I was gonna mention this and saw that you did. Awesome. So guys Nick is spot on with his response. At 6:21 in the video you can see the technician trying to realign the marks and how "touchy" it appeared to to do so due to the "springiness" at that point. Once you get the new belt on you could the roatate back to the three alignment marks ( two cams, one crank ) as a double check!
The tension on the cam from the valve springs will NOT "bend valves" if the cam turns with the timing belt off. There isn't NEARLY enough spring pressure there to do that.. 😕
Nice job , but like you I would have installed OE parts . Thanks for the video
Hopefully one day you will get in to service a ISF! The 2URGSE that’s a chain driven versus belt right?
Hey..some days you just aren't as "well grounded" as others😁
Thank God I’m only into 4 cylinders engine, much simplified
The radiator. Hahahaha. Been there! Lol
Great video! I have an '03 4runner with the 4.7l V8 2UR-FE. Have you ever had any of these engines come in with a broken T-belt? I've heard some people say the non-VVTI 2UR-FE engines are non-interference. I wanted to get your thoughts on that.
I wonder how many people would be shocked that a dealer doesn't use OEM parts all the time, I think if they knew they'd be pretty pissed off.
The proper flow of electrons ceased to exist in your particular stall! Good catch
Great tip on protecting the radiator. Ask me how I know....
How do you know?
Just done an a4 b6 2.5tdi similar but looks a harder that one,great job guys 👌
It looks almost the same as my 2uzfe. The Tbelt service was pretty straightforward. I had the water leak through the peep hole, too.
You didn't show the penis shaped water pump gasket, so I imagine it's different than the 2uzfe.
It's an almost identical service as the 3UZ-FE in the LS430 uses the exact same timing belt/water pump kit as the 2UZ-FE.
It's not a peep hole....
Back in the day Napa used to mean Need another part ASAP. A lot of other parts failed quickly back in the day but they improved since then.
So, you joined the third time is a charm club. Congrats from an old wrench turner. Where do I send the certificate?
I'm surprised that a Toyota dealership would use Napa parts. Great work, if I lived near your dealership I would go there only if you worked on my car. 😊
When vehicles get a certain age OEM parts at dealership by the factory are not supported hence aftermarket parts are used
@@keithlarge1151 I don't understand, why won't they be supported? The dealership still has to warrantee the work, wouldn't OEM be better. When I had a Volvo, (biggest mistake), the left front axle had to be replaced, rather than spend over twice as much on OEM, I got it at Auto Zone, (from China), it lasted a month and had to be replaced, got the OEM, so I had to do the work twice. My 08 Highlander has over 213k miles and everything is original. If, or when, the alternator or water pump or coils go out, do you think if I replace with aftermarket parts they will last that long?
@@frankbiz when vehicles are near 10 years old mfg's.dont support the parts like they did when the car was built. I repair vehicles where I let the owner supply parts if they wish and they end up finding out dealer doesn't have part as it was discontinued so as like you they go to advance ,auto zone ,o'reillys or the local napa to get parts. With this sometimes you get good parts and sometimes you dont. I worked on a Ford Focus that was about 1200 miles out of warranty on a no start and 2 of the coils and wires were burned completely in two so sometimes OEM ain't that great either
@@keithlarge1151 I get it now what you mean by "not supported". Thank you for clarifying that.👍🏻 As far as those Ford coils burning apart, we'll, their OEM isn't as good as some Japan parts.
@@keithlarge1151 Remember, just like everything else, a bunch of parts built by the lowest bidder in most cases. US automakers have removed so much quality there's almost none left.
Yeah!!!!! It started..... Good job. I think that I might be able to do that job with your tutorial as an aid. Might take me a week though.... Uhhhhhhh, think I’ll just take it to my mechanic.....
The UZ engines are quality we will probably never see again.
Great video! Thank god it started :D
Great video and I really appreciate the details you share!
Would you say it is prudent to replace the water pump regardless of condition if you tear down the the front of the engine like this?
My question to you would you like to pay for the labor all over again let’s say one year later ? The labor for this job , and this particular car and depending where you live is 950.00 dollars . Always ask for OE parts when doing this job . Good luck
@@55azguy I think it is a given. Save on labor and protect the engine. I would also replace the thermostat. Protects the new pump
@@JohnRodriguesPhotographer positively, all Toyotas get O.E. Stats as well.
One of the best cars you can buy with money….
Giggity !!! 😂
I have that same anxiety with every timing belt job, even ones I've done tons of, and even after turning over 2-4 times, as well.
At least it was something stupid instead of a serious mistake
Just goes to show, your still human
Giggidy,yeah he AWLLLRIGHT🤭
To remove part K, first remove parts A-J, then L-Z...reinstall in reverse order. Question: you remove the negative battery cable, does the computer system have a tiny backup battery to retain settings? Some cars lose everything which is a pita.
It doesn't matter on old stuff.
@@TheGuruStud True, no computer chips. But my 02 Taurus needed resetting which was a pain.
Man I thought the timing job on a Ford 5.4/4.6 was a big job, this looks no easier.
Keep the oil clean on those engines and the chain will last a long time.
@@davestout844 Define "Long Time" for a 3V 5.4.
I did a ton of these in my day, nice money-maker. You could do two a day easily. NAPA kits is what I used too
Does that funnel help keep air out of the coolant system? I think I have air in my 3.0 VZE's system. A jamoke must have filled it Awesome channel and vidoes.
Nice work sir!!!
That’s so weird to see toilet using a aluminum cover on a belt driven valve train most of the manufactures if not all of them have plastic covers or plastic inspection covers
Great save ! Just tell everyone it was an experiment.
Good help is hard too find
Sounds like a new car lol
My 4.7 didn't start because I pinched the cam position sensor wire. Took me a while to figure that out, but I won't make that mistake again. I do have 60k miles until I need to do the next timing belt.
Hope napa is better in the US than UK. Most techs call them 'not another part again'. They just don't seem to last long.
The 460 is a hell of a car.