there's plenty of institutions that do not know any better and rely on salesmen to introduce them to 3D printing. We have 3 ultimaker printers at the university and that's a small number compared to other sectors.
Thanks for your feedback! Indeed, we also enjoy doing big prints in our tests. Our test models are mainly used to assess the printer’s capability (tolerances, overhangs, bridging, ...), but printing large format models to illustrate the machine’s print volume is of course also very interesting and something we tend to do
Hi! It all depends on your needs. Based on your skills and applications, some printers will be better suited for you. The S7 is a robust, reliable 3D printer with a strong ecosystem and UltiMaker has been making FDM 3D printers for years. All this comes at a cost. Some people will find it is a good fit for their needs, whilst others may prefer an alternative. We try to cover as much of the 3D printing market as we can to give users a good understanding of the entire landscape 😉
@@platin2148 IMO - I could be wrong but - it is the Proprietary nozzle that they call a print core. I think the default that ships with the machine is 0.4MM, therefore changing the nozzle to 0.25MM will set you back a humble $170 plus.
@@dotJPJP the cores are $115 USD, And yes while expensive (I have bought too many of them during the lifetime of my S5R1) they making nozzle changes super easy and uncomplicated, which when running a print shop like I do makes my life just that much easier.
@@owencoyne6223 That is one of the things I gripe about with my Prusa. It takes 10-15 minutes to change nozzles. Glad to hear it is working well for you. I must have padded the shipping costs of the core to Japan. LOL. I was interested in the printer but guess I will have to pass.
Of course, not every 3D printer will be a perfect fit for every user! But, it must be said that UltiMaker has spent a number of years perfecting their machines, notably in ease of use, such as with the interchangeable printcores. This has made more technical FDM 3D printing more accessible and has streamlined the printing process, especially for print farm operators. Of course, this tight integration comes at a cost, though that can often be justified depending on the applications/purpose of the machine
Out of the box, the S7 is able to print standard, elastic and advanced materials ranging from PLA to PA. When equipped with the CC printcore, its material compatibility is extended to composites like glass and carbon reinforced materials. The ease of printing with such advanced and technical materials is certainly exciting on a desktop machine. Also, as UltiMaker is finalizing the integration of its metal expansion kit, users will be able to print green metal parts which are then sintered to achieve metal 3D printing
Ultimaker is struggling to keep up with the competition. They seem to be recycling old ideas and concepts. The 2.85mm filament is no longer popular in the market. The z-axis trapezoid rod looks outdated and seems to have been borrowed from a 10-year-old Creality printer. It’s surprising that they are still using smooth rods with sliding blocks. The nozzles (printer cores) are super expensive. Even if you consider the ‘ecosystem’ perks, the price of this product is not justifiable.
The S5 and S7 are very similar, the differences between both of them make them catered to slightly different applications and users. For users that didn't have a S5 + pro bundle yet, the S7 is a worthy upgrade. Some people will be fine with the S5 by itself, so it's a good thing that UltiMaker is still selling it.
So what's Ultimaker's sales pitch here? It's an 8k$+ machine that: -prints comically slow, at least in the shots used in the video -uses nonstandard filament diameters -can't do anything more impressive than a 1k$ Bambu (if being plug and play is key), a 900$ Prusa (if reliability is key, but being able to upgrade over time is also important), a 200$ Sovol with ~100$ of upgrades (if budget is a concern), or even a 100$ Ender 3 with ~100$ of upgrades (if budget is REALLY a concern) -doesn't even come perfect out of the box (this video mentions underlubed bearings and loose motion components); if you're paying over 8000$ for a printer that isn't perfect out of the box, what are you paying for??? Why would I ever spend 8000$ for a locked down and slow printer when a 1000$ or even a 200-300$ printer (that's heavily tinkered with) can outpace it? The software ecosystem isn't even unique given what Bambu's been up to.
No wonder Statasys is suing Bambu Labs, they continue to sell garbage hardware at ridiculous prices. I guess that is what you do when you can't compete honestly in the market, you sue to kill off your competition. Boycott Stratasys.
Hi! As mentioned in the review, the main benefit of the S7 is its integration in the UltiMaker line-up and the whole ecosystem. The S7 is a robust, reliable 3D printer with a strong ecosystem and UltiMaker has been making FDM 3D printers and contributing to the 3D printing industry for years (Cura, for example is a open-source slicer used by many other manufacturers and has paved the way for upgrades in other slicers). All this comes at a cost. Some people will find it is a good fit for their needs, whilst others may prefer an alternative. We try to cover as much of the 3D printing market as we can to give users a good understanding of the entire landscape 😉
$11k+? Who's supposed to buy this thing exactly? Like, who's the target market?
there's plenty of institutions that do not know any better and rely on salesmen to introduce them to 3D printing. We have 3 ultimaker printers at the university and that's a small number compared to other sectors.
I always want to see big prints of technical materials like gauges or fixtures, otherwise isn't an extraordinary like it seems.
Thanks for your feedback! Indeed, we also enjoy doing big prints in our tests. Our test models are mainly used to assess the printer’s capability (tolerances, overhangs, bridging, ...), but printing large format models to illustrate the machine’s print volume is of course also very interesting and something we tend to do
Better buy 4 Bambulab for that money!
Hi! It all depends on your needs. Based on your skills and applications, some printers will be better suited for you. The S7 is a robust, reliable 3D printer with a strong ecosystem and UltiMaker has been making FDM 3D printers for years. All this comes at a cost. Some people will find it is a good fit for their needs, whilst others may prefer an alternative. We try to cover as much of the 3D printing market as we can to give users a good understanding of the entire landscape 😉
@@3dnativesThat’s a lot of text. Why don’t just tell us what sets the ultimates above bambulab or Prusa?
Very much aimed at a niche market. UltiPriced @ only $8,299. And 2.85 mm filament requirement. Niche.
I’d like to have the possibility to upgrade to 2.85 but not as default. And with what nozzle did they chip?
@@platin2148 IMO - I could be wrong but - it is the Proprietary nozzle that they call a print core. I think the default that ships with the machine is 0.4MM, therefore changing the nozzle to 0.25MM will set you back a humble $170 plus.
@@dotJPJP the cores are $115 USD, And yes while expensive (I have bought too many of them during the lifetime of my S5R1) they making nozzle changes super easy and uncomplicated, which when running a print shop like I do makes my life just that much easier.
@@owencoyne6223 That is one of the things I gripe about with my Prusa. It takes 10-15 minutes to change nozzles. Glad to hear it is working well for you. I must have padded the shipping costs of the core to Japan. LOL. I was interested in the printer but guess I will have to pass.
Of course, not every 3D printer will be a perfect fit for every user! But, it must be said that UltiMaker has spent a number of years perfecting their machines, notably in ease of use, such as with the interchangeable printcores. This has made more technical FDM 3D printing more accessible and has streamlined the printing process, especially for print farm operators. Of course, this tight integration comes at a cost, though that can often be justified depending on the applications/purpose of the machine
Can it print anything special? I mean most of the stuff isn’t something one can’t get with a 8x cheaper printer.
Out of the box, the S7 is able to print standard, elastic and advanced materials ranging from PLA to PA. When equipped with the CC printcore, its material compatibility is extended to composites like glass and carbon reinforced materials. The ease of printing with such advanced and technical materials is certainly exciting on a desktop machine. Also, as UltiMaker is finalizing the integration of its metal expansion kit, users will be able to print green metal parts which are then sintered to achieve metal 3D printing
so no
@@3dnativesthat's literally what the Bambu Lab X1C with AMS can do and it's only 1300+ 😅
Ultimaker is struggling to keep up with the competition. They seem to be recycling old ideas and concepts. The 2.85mm filament is no longer popular in the market. The z-axis trapezoid rod looks outdated and seems to have been borrowed from a 10-year-old Creality printer. It’s surprising that they are still using smooth rods with sliding blocks. The nozzles (printer cores) are super expensive. Even if you consider the ‘ecosystem’ perks, the price of this product is not justifiable.
What is the flexible material that you printed with at 6:04?
Hello! This material is TPU. You can find it in different stiffnesses (which are defined by the shore hardness).
I feel like these changes didn't warrant a whole new printer. An upgrade kit should have been enough. But that doesn't earn you more money it seems...
The S5 and S7 are very similar, the differences between both of them make them catered to slightly different applications and users. For users that didn't have a S5 + pro bundle yet, the S7 is a worthy upgrade. Some people will be fine with the S5 by itself, so it's a good thing that UltiMaker is still selling it.
Not a single print example?
Hello, we share shots of our prints in the "First prints" section, especially at 5:44
So what's Ultimaker's sales pitch here? It's an 8k$+ machine that:
-prints comically slow, at least in the shots used in the video
-uses nonstandard filament diameters
-can't do anything more impressive than a 1k$ Bambu (if being plug and play is key), a 900$ Prusa (if reliability is key, but being able to upgrade over time is also important), a 200$ Sovol with ~100$ of upgrades (if budget is a concern), or even a 100$ Ender 3 with ~100$ of upgrades (if budget is REALLY a concern)
-doesn't even come perfect out of the box (this video mentions underlubed bearings and loose motion components); if you're paying over 8000$ for a printer that isn't perfect out of the box, what are you paying for???
Why would I ever spend 8000$ for a locked down and slow printer when a 1000$ or even a 200-300$ printer (that's heavily tinkered with) can outpace it? The software ecosystem isn't even unique given what Bambu's been up to.
joke
No wonder Statasys is suing Bambu Labs, they continue to sell garbage hardware at ridiculous prices. I guess that is what you do when you can't compete honestly in the market, you sue to kill off your competition. Boycott Stratasys.
This gotta be a joke
Nice review
Hello, thank you for your comment!
Great job ;)
Thanks Nathan!
Regular printer. Slap a giant box around it, charge 10k more. Hard pass.
Hi! As mentioned in the review, the main benefit of the S7 is its integration in the UltiMaker line-up and the whole ecosystem. The S7 is a robust, reliable 3D printer with a strong ecosystem and UltiMaker has been making FDM 3D printers and contributing to the 3D printing industry for years (Cura, for example is a open-source slicer used by many other manufacturers and has paved the way for upgrades in other slicers). All this comes at a cost. Some people will find it is a good fit for their needs, whilst others may prefer an alternative. We try to cover as much of the 3D printing market as we can to give users a good understanding of the entire landscape 😉
Very cool ❤
great accent