Tekken 8 has that AI training thing, it might lead to some really good fun. I also want transformations to be like BT3 with the blast stocks and being complete stat upgrades, in RB2 (didn't play RB1) transformations seemed to be a bit lackluster stat wise which might have been a byproduct of being able to transform much more easily than in BT3. Hype for DBSZ is getting lit.
free flight mechanics imo are the main reason why Tenkaichi plays the way it does, like it gives it that Tenkaichi feel of freedom you don't get anywhere else, that jumping example between Tenkaichi and RB2 was the best showcase of this if there is something I wish would return, it'd be Tenkaichi 2s charge bar and cancels, even if only dash smashes would be cancellable, as long as you keep the slide momentum, I'd love it
I agree with nearly everything here. I would like to see rush block canceling returning or even a ki blast cancel system, but if the game has BT3 tech alone it would be good enough. We’re getting signatures anyway which is an RB feature so to me I think they’re bringing together primarily bt tech with some rb stuff as well. Regardless, good wish list and unlike others it isn’t clickbait and unrealistic expectations.
I can't watch the full vid yet but Power-ups like Kaioken, the ki drainers, were stackable in RB1 (12 stacks possible for Kaioken) one for every direction you put it on and has it's own stack but the power up takes your current attack boost into account. I'm sure all the normal ones work as well but i only 100% know the ki draining ones. So in RB2 if Ultimate Gohan does say 3000 for a full rush. Power up to the very limit gives 30% (example) and makes him do 3900, The next would have made him do 5200 instead of 4800. 4 stacks and you'd have been doing 8800 per full rush and about 35000 for a Burst Rush lol. That could be one of the reasons they removed it. I hope it's back cause I love using multiple of Turles Fruit in a row. (Moreso in BT2 cause max power) BT1 has the best version of that Down hit for SS3. I love it there the most but the others change his legs to be more like he's leaving floor and then RB makes it like he's on the ground whole time despite leaving the ground anyway.
I forgot to say that you could stack Kaioken like that but it isn't true stacking anyway. : / Fruit of the Tree of Might stacking indeed needs to return. I have 0 recollection of BT1 Ssj3 Goku down smash but I'll take a look. I have to redownload it later for BT1 netplay w/ a couple friends regardless.
Yeah I prefer the blasts stocks for power ups + explosive wave etc being more defensive/utility based. Opens up more Super slots too. If we had actual gameplay from the gameplay trailer there'd be less to speculate about regarding them. BT1's i can't remember if it's the normal one or the dashing version but his knees aren't bent like the others. I remember seeing it before and wondering why it looked so good. That SS2 Goku right smash would have been perfect off a Sonic Sway or the Block - Triangle counter. Hopefully something like them come back also. Infinite worlds cutscene also did it good cause it's 100x faster. You can use whatever you want lol . I need to check my emails more often. I can't remember if any BT has it but RB1 has a thing were 2 grabs connect and they both act as if they were throw evaded so that into a clash would be amazing, even if it never comes up. There's so much potential but i can't say i'm optimistic. Hopefully battle hour will be their big showcase.
@@chaospunishment For real, Blast Stocks are waaaaaaaaaay better, man. I'll take a look & let you know my thoughts unless someone's uploaded a clip of it somewhere. Ssj2 Goku's BT3 right smash or RB right smash? Noted. Thank you. I never thought to try it in Raging Blast. That's interesting. Ironically I've done it in Xenoverse & both grabs cancel each other out, sending both players back a bit.
I absolutely agree with you in everything, but I want a running mechanic for low speed movement . Only hovering mechaninc doesn´t cut it for me and I hope improvement in that area. Running mechanic, hovering for fast movement and high speed mechanic. Besides, I think a new kind of movements and attacks can emerge from a running mechanic.
Lots of good points on mechanics I didn't think about. My main thing rn is transformations, variations and movelist customizations. Goku is the best example as to why we need all of these for Tenkaichi Zero. Goku alone has over well over 18 transformations. All the way from Kaioken & Its Variations. False SSJ, SSJ 1-4 SSG- SSB & SSB (Kaioken), UI Sign, MUI, Ozzaru, Golden Ozzaru. As you look at BT3 you can notice 99% of the characters have either only 1-3 transformations. The only character that has four transformations is Frieza. 2nd Form, 3rd Form, Final, & Full Power. No other characters in BT3 have more then 3 transformations. GT kid Goku skipped two transformations only giving him SSJ, SSJ 3, & SSJ4. (He doesn't have SSJ 2 or Golden Ozzaru) Thinking about this definitely made me realize how important varations and move customizations is for Sparking (Tenkaichi) Zero. DBS Goku might only have his newest transformations if they only allow a few Transformations like BT3. The only way we can have a character with multiple transformations is from like a hybrid of Xenoverse & DBZ Budokai' ls Ki amount effecting what form you go into like they did with SSJ -3 in Xenoverse. But combine that with the BT3, Raging Blast, or Kakarot way of transforming then you could have a transformation modifier(LT/L2 RT/ R2 plus a face button or D pad input giving us way more Transformations then before. As one face button alone could hold 3 transformation if ki played a role. Low Ki, Mid Ki, & Max Ki level. Just something thats been on the mind considering how old DBZ games until now handled transformations and customization.
Any disrespect here isn't meant as disrespect, it was only made as comparisons; Raging Blast is a great game by itself as long as it isn't compared to Tenkaichi. The moment it's compared to Tenkaichi is the moment Raging Blast loses whatever discussion is transpiring. Glad you enjoyed it, bro.
All they have to do is listen to OG fans such as yourself. If they take the ideas you and others bring up. They can make this the greatest dragon ball game ever.
I don't know if anyone in the comments already mentioned it, but in raging blast 2 after doing the recovery roll animation you CAN immediately dragondash your opponents
Nice video however you should do a 2 part of video something like. "what bt4 can learn or implement/improve from others dbgames" - cover changes from dblegends , in legends can switch places and save allies ,some charcater have special counters that can save the player for upcoming attacks for examples: beams ,rush,etc but depends on the character hp many times that something that can be implemented after smashing attack and if your opponent follow up with homing dragon or other specifics gaps between strings of course have to be balance. Since something that bother is was that time wasted or loading time switch characters. Current technology it is possible in order no to kill the momentum of the fights. - conditional transformation, some characters can only transform if they met certain conditions for examples: metal cooler budokai 3 , kid goku ozaru full moon, orange piccolo. Etc.. - accurately modeling characters: bt4 have great Graphics but frieza 3d model look unproportioned. I don't want to see dwarfs gohan or frieza. This include floppy hair as well. Also you should check treevax simulations for raging blast 3 he has a lot of ideas implemented in video
If this video continues to do well & we get something at Battle Hour, I'll think about doing a part 2. EDIT: I have actually seen Treevax's video & it was an incredible showcase. I'll rewatch it later to see if there's anything that would pique my interest.
My wishlist is simple tbh: Game modes - We need plenty of them. We already got confirmation that local multiplayer is not gonna be a thing. (for now anyway they could easily back pedal) So if we're not getting local multiplayer the worse thing they could do is do what Storm Connections did and give us fuck all to play with offline. We need an: *_Arcade mode_* (with individual character endings) *_In Depth Story Mode_* (Don't half ass this. Just have us go through key fights going all the way from OG DB all the way to Daima including GT so we can unlock characters and enjoy practicing each character's play style) *_Challenge mode_* (My idea is kinda a fusion of Mission 100 from Tenkaichi 3 and Smash Melee's Challenge mode where you take on stages with their own unique restrictions, characters you can play as, and their own mini story that explains why you're fighting with the restrictions you're given.) *_Tournament mode_* (both singles and team based tournaments with their own set levels of difficulty) *_What-If mode_* (A staple of the Tenkaichi series, I know we have Heroes and Xenoverse where back when BT2/3 were new neither existed but keep the What-Ifs in. That shit's good) *_Sim Dragon_* (I think Sim Dragon making a comeback would be fun. Just having dumb fun learning to balance training with rest and going through boss battles in an RPG simulator just to earn a kiss from 18 was a brilliantly dumb fun mode. Only I think Tenkaichi 4 should have it set so you can choose which DB waifu you want to earn a kiss from just so it can have replay value) *_Training Mode_* (I think training mode mode only needs 2 things. Don't be like Tenkaichi 3's training mode and make it like Budokai 2's training mode. For those that missed out on B2 or forgot but in B2 you would play as Goten and go step by step on the basics of the game's playing style and updated fighting system. I want that brought back. Kid Goten being the focus of training mode and being trained by the greatest members of the Z team would not only be fun to see play out but it would help keep you invested in learning the Tenkaichi system all over again.) *_Survival_* (If we don't get a training mode then survival mode is a must. A mode where you pick the character you want to main/lab and you just go up against the entire game roster to see how long you can last before going online. I'd rather we have both Training and Survival modes but if we don't have one *_WE NEED_* the other.) *_Evolution Z_* (For those that remember, in Tenkaichi 3 Evolution Z allowed you to customize characters and buy items. I think they both should be brought back but I think character customization in this game should go beyond just colors and different skins. I think Evolution Z in this game should allow you to customize character skills to. What I mean by that is you should be able to go to customization, go to Goku, unequip Kamehameha as his super and replace it with Frieza's Death Beam. Imagine the creative character builds we'd see online with Hercule using Devil Man's beam, or Omega Shenron using Beerus' Hakai, or Beerus using Yamcha's Spirit Ball, or Yamcha using Gogeta's Soul Punisher. That would be INSANELY AWESOME! Do I realistically think that would happen? Nah. I doubt Spike would come up with something that would be this fun and creative. But it's a wish list. It's not meant to be realistic.) *_Shenron_* (Shenron should definitely come back. You just gather the dragon balls either offline in story mode or even online in just casual/ranked matches. And if you gather all 7 you can make a wish. *_BUT_* I think it would be a much smarter to have not just Shenron but other dragons in the series as well. Like Ultimate Shenron (GT), Black Smoke Shenron (GT), Ultimate Shenron (Super) and each Shenron you get can grant different things. Like for example if you get original Shenron he can grant you basic things like character customization options, zeni, etc. Ultimate Shenron can grant you any wish as far as online customization options for like premium or ultra rare profile plates, animated profile pics etc only his gimmick is if you make a wish with him like how in GT a wish on him ends with the planet exploding, making you have to fight a secret boss in order to have your wish granted and if you lose the planet on the map explodes and your wish is not granted Black Smoke Shenron can just be a troll dragon that gives you stupidly broken wishes like you can wish for infinite health online or infinite wealth and when you make a choice he blows smoke in your face and makes you go through a Shadow Dragon survival gauntlet where every Shadow Dragon is amped up like a secret boss and you have to fight them back to back with no health restoration. Ultimate Shneron can just be the dragon that gives the best wishes in the game where you can unlock hidden game modes or wish for a new profile with 100% completion in case you want to make a second one for whatever reason. But basically the idea is his wishes are the best in the game and you get no draw backs) But that's about it with my wishlist. I don't think it'd be hard to make Tenkaichi 4 better than 3 and the Raging Blast games. Just give us A LOT TO DO both online and offline so people have a reason to keep coming back over and over and over again even after we 100% complete offline mode.
Yes. Interesting idea. As long as we get a BT2 world type story mode, I'm content. Yes, I approve of this idea. Yes. Yes. Sim Dragon coming back would be cool in this engine. I never got to play B2. : ( Survival. : D Item mode should go without saying. kek DBZ wouldn't be DBZ without Shenron. : ) Ult & Black Smoke Shenron... interesting concepts. Indeed. Content is a must.
Yo Hawk got the PS5, same account and everything let’s have some fun when this game comes out. I’m curious what they will add that’s new to the game but I think the ground work and essential will still be there from past games…I feel like RB1 had the smoothest seay mechanic tho I hope it’s as good as it was on there
I know it's not the kind of stacking you were referring to but I remember when I abused the shit out of it on RB1 online lmao... Trolling purposes only!!! Like chaospunishment mentioned you could stack those super and place each one as a different super (stacking give me your energy super 4 times with goku was hilarious... 99,999 dmg Ultimate easy same goes for burter special pose you could use his 1 frame signature infinitely) Nice list most of the stuff you mentioned I wasn't aware of since I didn't had much access to the internet during BT3 to learn all those things kinda amazing tbh. Me personally (still haven't finished watching the video entirely) if they gonna make snap vanish work like it did on RB2... Screw that shit whether if you agree with me or not I believe some stuff CANNOT be allowed to snap vanish (not talking about RB1 Unvanishable smash attacks) but allowing you the option to vanish normal rush attacks was a piss poor decision, I wish they would add a decent coop online but I guess that's asking to much (2vs2 will do) BTW what console you will get the game? I'll probably get it on PS5
I had no particular issue with either vanish system but I'd definitely prefer Tenkaichi's. If we get RB1's it'll be a shit show. There's several things I could've added to this video but honestly I didn't want to make it close to an hour long, would've been excessive. If anyone wants to toss me more ideas I can always discuss them in streams. I'm pre-ordering the Collector's Edition (there's no shot this game won't have a CE) for PS5 & getting regular for Steam as well since I doubt the game will have crossplay, honestly. Are you getting a PS5? I don't plan to reconnect my Series X again anytime soon.
@@THEGrandMasterHawk again RB1 had its flaws (many flaws...) I am not saying the snap vanish on it was perfect but it required some sort of skill... I feel like RB2 made it to easy to vanish some stuff and again vanishing normal rush attacks was really a stupid idea, I also hate with a passion the super rise cancel escape if you got hit by one....why not make the player that catched someone in a combo first have his console crash for daring doing such a thing in the first place, game should reward incentive not the other way around but again that's just my opinion here(obviously we don't want the RB1 hold your controller down type combos) if it will work like that BT3 that's fine by me Hopefully holding the guard button will actually mean something this time... I have a PS5 for 2 years now, also just upgraded my net to 1000MB (it's a big leap from 40-60 Mb) wonder if our connection will be better now...
Console crash. lmaooo. I love you, bro. 😂 Yeah, BT's system was a good "straight-down-the-middle" type of vanish system; Rush Techniques like Rolling Hammer (Smash Attacks, for your RB language) being vanishable alongside level 1 & 2 (you could make level 2 charged smashes unvanishable in RB2 if you timed them properly) charged smashes, would all be ideal for a return to Sparking Zero. I concur! Holding block is so beneficial in RB because it's such a simple system, so hopefully we get the guard system from BT back. Awesome! Have we added each other yet or no?
You do gotta understand that they have Mouse and Keyboard in mind. We don't know if they'll bring back that many mechanics considering that the best way to play the game is on controller. Not on Mouse and keyboard
@@THEGrandMasterHawk Because it is going to be on PC, you said it yourself. Not everyone who owns and who will play Sparking Zero on PC has a controller. I'm sure some will want to play On keyboard and Mouse. Maybe they do something like FighterZ, but FighterZ is a 2.5D game, so it's a bit easier. We will have to see
@@naza.2k065 Yeah that's true, but I don't know many keyboard players. Most people I know do have at least a 3rd party controller. I'm sure they'll implement a suitable method for clashes & such w/ kb&m. Indeed, we just have to wait & see!
I have extremely sensitive hearing & am still struggling to find a suitable decibel level for videos, so I do apologize. Maybe from now on I'll keep my headset volume low & increase the decibel levels on the clips so it's suitable for everyone.
Raging Blast 2 mechanics were better as much as I love Budokai Tenkaichi 3 Dragon Ball Z Budokai Tenkaichi 3 has really good speed for Dragon Dash and regular Dash but snapping vanish punch and kicks are way better in Raging Blast 2 I hope they bring those mechanic back
RB1 & 2 had a fixed speed, fixed isn't necessarily "better", it's just easier for everyone else. Literally everyone else. lol. Let's wait & see which ones they bring back.
4:09 i have been playing bt3 for more than 7 years and i pretty much mastered the game completely but only this I haven’t been able to figure out how to do sway evasion HOW ?WHAT BUTTONS WE PRESS ?
These are realistic expectations; in order for the game to succeed in what made Tenkaichi what it is, many of these features need to make a return. At least the core fundamentals like rush combos & free flight. If they change everything else hopefully there will be a way to compensate for what didn't make it into Sparking Zero.
@@THEGrandMasterHawk character variants are what make Tenkaichi, Tenkaichi. I also prefer to know what moves my opponent has and it not be a guessing game
@@snapaholic1 rofl. I don't mind the variants at all but having customizable Supers for some characters is still great to have, like in Frieza's & Vegeta's cases.
People need to forget Tenkaichi 3. 😮 Yes, Sparking Zero is a reboot. And yes, it has Elements from the Tenkaichi/Raging Blast Series. But it is a whole new Beast of a Game. This will be the definitive Dragonball Game. 🎉 Y‘all acting like this will be a perfect Clone of Tenkaichi 3. 😂 No! This is a new World of Dragonball Gaming we’re in. You all need to accept this Fact.
It's not about being a clone of BT3, it's about retaining features that made Tenkaichi what it is today. The features I've included will help the longevity of the game which is what everyone wants. The only other thing everyone wants is a huge roster but in my opinion, the people who want only that or glorify that the most, care the least about the game.
if it has Sparking in the title, I would certainly hope that it has the features and mechanics that defined the Sparking series, and many of the ones mentioned here are those series-defining features
Raging Blast was a Tenkaichi cancel system but not Tenkaichi in itself, bringing it into a game where the movement isn't benefited properly from the cancel system is pointless. I didn't include it because SZ needs to play like Tenkaichi, not Raging Blast. If we get some Raging Blast esque cancels, that's cool though.
You need to assign Kaioken to all 4 directions in order to do it; stacking in Raging Blast is generally not the same or to the same scale as Tenkaichi.
Hawk this might be a bad take but i dont think right block and left block is needed. Sometimes simpler is better. What do u think 🤔?@@THEGrandMasterHawk
Curious, what about the feature in Raging Blast 2? Where they get trapped in the rocks/buildings? Here is an example in this video it starts at 0:58 ruclips.net/video/xM0a_exF2bA/видео.htmlsi=hkqP_Y1eJF-HUjgu Also the background character menu, I also hope they’re like your guide like how they did with that Bleach Shattered Blade for the Wii.
I forgot to add Crashes but they weren't that important to me, I was more so focused on gameplay mechanics which Raging Blast generally did not have. Crashes & background char menus would be cool too though, for sure. EDIT: Just re-read your msg. Yes, hopefully it does happen. xD
Stfu 😂 there both good games and sparkling zero is probably going to feel like The old games but what you have to realize it's the modern time now so sparkling is going to be it's own thing yes you probably going to see similar things but I bet there's going to be something in the game where it's going to be piss off so many people, so if you don't like sparkling after it gets released and think its trash than go stay in your retro life 😂😂
The fact that he is giving his opinion on what the game should have and you told him to shut up is stupid. You realise that if bandai fucks the game up, they are fucked. Hell the source code of bt3 has been decompiled by the bt4 team. Who says thaey can't add new features and be even better than SZ?
Hey what's your discord ID we doing a sparking zero tournament soon. Wanna join a dragon ball community we getting all the content creators on RUclips.
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The only feature I genuinely forgot to include was a PROPER training mode like Tekken & other 2D fighters have.
Bro is a noob👏🏻👏🏻☠️🥶🤧🤡🤡
@@djw_tekken8490 Always.
It’s a 3d arena fighter, not a fucking competitive game 🤦🏽♂️
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@@elliottblair31 That won't stop people for wishing for these features. (:
Tekken 8 has that AI training thing, it might lead to some really good fun.
I also want transformations to be like BT3 with the blast stocks and being complete stat upgrades, in RB2 (didn't play RB1) transformations seemed to be a bit lackluster stat wise which might have been a byproduct of being able to transform much more easily than in BT3.
Hype for DBSZ is getting lit.
free flight mechanics imo are the main reason why Tenkaichi plays the way it does, like it gives it that Tenkaichi feel of freedom you don't get anywhere else, that jumping example between Tenkaichi and RB2 was the best showcase of this
if there is something I wish would return, it'd be Tenkaichi 2s charge bar and cancels, even if only dash smashes would be cancellable, as long as you keep the slide momentum, I'd love it
I really just want a regular menu I always hated the walking around lobbies to go to certain things like missions stores and online/offline matches
lmaooo. I never had any issues w/ these but I definitely prefer regular lobbies & not the chibi stuff. 😂
You just referenced xenoverse 😂
Raging blast has some cool outfits for sure it’s dope to see Gohan in the Kai outfit and piccolo absorbed super Buu
I agree with nearly everything here. I would like to see rush block canceling returning or even a ki blast cancel system, but if the game has BT3 tech alone it would be good enough. We’re getting signatures anyway which is an RB feature so to me I think they’re bringing together primarily bt tech with some rb stuff as well.
Regardless, good wish list and unlike others it isn’t clickbait and unrealistic expectations.
I can't watch the full vid yet but Power-ups like Kaioken, the ki drainers, were stackable in RB1 (12 stacks possible for Kaioken) one for every direction you put it on and has it's own stack but the power up takes your current attack boost into account. I'm sure all the normal ones work as well but i only 100% know the ki draining ones.
So in RB2 if Ultimate Gohan does say 3000 for a full rush. Power up to the very limit gives 30% (example) and makes him do 3900, The next would have made him do 5200 instead of 4800. 4 stacks and you'd have been doing 8800 per full rush and about 35000 for a Burst Rush lol. That could be one of the reasons they removed it. I hope it's back cause I love using multiple of Turles Fruit in a row. (Moreso in BT2 cause max power)
BT1 has the best version of that Down hit for SS3. I love it there the most but the others change his legs to be more like he's leaving floor and then RB makes it like he's on the ground whole time despite leaving the ground anyway.
I forgot to say that you could stack Kaioken like that but it isn't true stacking anyway. : /
Fruit of the Tree of Might stacking indeed needs to return.
I have 0 recollection of BT1 Ssj3 Goku down smash but I'll take a look. I have to redownload it later for BT1 netplay w/ a couple friends regardless.
Yeah I prefer the blasts stocks for power ups + explosive wave etc being more defensive/utility based. Opens up more Super slots too. If we had actual gameplay from the gameplay trailer there'd be less to speculate about regarding them.
BT1's i can't remember if it's the normal one or the dashing version but his knees aren't bent like the others. I remember seeing it before and wondering why it looked so good.
That SS2 Goku right smash would have been perfect off a Sonic Sway or the Block - Triangle counter. Hopefully something like them come back also. Infinite worlds cutscene also did it good cause it's 100x faster.
You can use whatever you want lol . I need to check my emails more often.
I can't remember if any BT has it but RB1 has a thing were 2 grabs connect and they both act as if they were throw evaded so that into a clash would be amazing, even if it never comes up.
There's so much potential but i can't say i'm optimistic. Hopefully battle hour will be their big showcase.
@@chaospunishment For real, Blast Stocks are waaaaaaaaaay better, man.
I'll take a look & let you know my thoughts unless someone's uploaded a clip of it somewhere.
Ssj2 Goku's BT3 right smash or RB right smash?
Noted. Thank you.
I never thought to try it in Raging Blast. That's interesting. Ironically I've done it in Xenoverse & both grabs cancel each other out, sending both players back a bit.
Honestly I just got tenkaichi 3 for my ps 2 and this video actually helping me learn how to play the game
Looking at these clips reminded me how much of a good looking game Raging Blast is visually. Holds up well.
Watching this reminded me that I still need that HD texture pack for dolphin
Knowing you played the game for them congratulations and i hope they listen to you for a good game overall
I absolutely agree with you in everything, but I want a running mechanic for low speed movement . Only hovering mechaninc doesn´t cut it for me and I hope improvement in that area. Running mechanic, hovering for fast movement and high speed mechanic.
Besides, I think a new kind of movements and attacks can emerge from a running mechanic.
Lots of good points on mechanics I didn't think about. My main thing rn is transformations, variations and movelist customizations. Goku is the best example as to why we need all of these for Tenkaichi Zero.
Goku alone has over well over 18 transformations. All the way from Kaioken & Its Variations. False SSJ, SSJ 1-4 SSG- SSB & SSB (Kaioken), UI Sign, MUI, Ozzaru, Golden Ozzaru.
As you look at BT3 you can notice 99% of the characters have either only 1-3 transformations.
The only character that has four transformations is Frieza. 2nd Form, 3rd Form, Final, & Full Power.
No other characters in BT3 have more then 3 transformations.
GT kid Goku skipped two transformations only giving him SSJ, SSJ 3, & SSJ4. (He doesn't have SSJ 2 or Golden Ozzaru)
Thinking about this definitely made me realize how important varations and move customizations is for Sparking (Tenkaichi) Zero.
DBS Goku might only have his newest transformations if they only allow a few Transformations like BT3.
The only way we can have a character with multiple transformations is from like a hybrid of Xenoverse & DBZ Budokai' ls Ki amount effecting what form you go into like they did with SSJ -3 in Xenoverse. But combine that with the BT3, Raging Blast, or Kakarot way of transforming then you could have a transformation modifier(LT/L2 RT/ R2 plus a face button or D pad input giving us way more Transformations then before. As one face button alone could hold 3 transformation if ki played a role. Low Ki, Mid Ki, & Max Ki level. Just something thats been on the mind considering how old DBZ games until now handled transformations and customization.
Great vid, I like the grab collison idea
We definitely need a Replay Mode for battles and recordings and also local multiplayer as well as quality online multiplayer
The Raging Blast Disrespect Wasn't necessary 😂but great video.
Any disrespect here isn't meant as disrespect, it was only made as comparisons; Raging Blast is a great game by itself as long as it isn't compared to Tenkaichi. The moment it's compared to Tenkaichi is the moment Raging Blast loses whatever discussion is transpiring.
Glad you enjoyed it, bro.
I enjoy everything in this video.
All they have to do is listen to OG fans such as yourself. If they take the ideas you and others bring up. They can make this the greatest dragon ball game ever.
I don't know if anyone in the comments already mentioned it, but in raging blast 2 after doing the recovery roll animation you CAN immediately dragondash your opponents
Only if you get the recovery roll off the stage as I showed in the video, not a regular roll.
@@THEGrandMasterHawk alright true.
Nice video however you should do a 2 part of video something like. "what bt4 can learn or implement/improve from others dbgames"
- cover changes from dblegends , in legends can switch places and save allies ,some charcater have special counters that can save the player for upcoming attacks for examples: beams ,rush,etc but depends on the character hp many times that something that can be implemented after smashing attack and if your opponent follow up with homing dragon or other specifics gaps between strings of course have to be balance.
Since something that bother is was that time wasted or loading time switch characters. Current technology it is possible in order no to kill the momentum of the fights.
- conditional transformation, some characters can only transform if they met certain conditions for examples: metal cooler budokai 3 , kid goku ozaru full moon, orange piccolo. Etc..
- accurately modeling characters: bt4 have great Graphics but frieza 3d model look unproportioned. I don't want to see dwarfs gohan or frieza. This include floppy hair as well.
Also you should check treevax simulations for raging blast 3 he has a lot of ideas implemented in video
If this video continues to do well & we get something at Battle Hour, I'll think about doing a part 2.
EDIT: I have actually seen Treevax's video & it was an incredible showcase. I'll rewatch it later to see if there's anything that would pique my interest.
My wishlist is simple tbh:
Game modes - We need plenty of them. We already got confirmation that local multiplayer is not gonna be a thing. (for now anyway they could easily back pedal) So if we're not getting local multiplayer the worse thing they could do is do what Storm Connections did and give us fuck all to play with offline. We need an:
*_Arcade mode_* (with individual character endings)
*_In Depth Story Mode_* (Don't half ass this. Just have us go through key fights going all the way from OG DB all the way to Daima including GT so we can unlock characters and enjoy practicing each character's play style)
*_Challenge mode_* (My idea is kinda a fusion of Mission 100 from Tenkaichi 3 and Smash Melee's Challenge mode where you take on stages with their own unique restrictions, characters you can play as, and their own mini story that explains why you're fighting with the restrictions you're given.)
*_Tournament mode_* (both singles and team based tournaments with their own set levels of difficulty)
*_What-If mode_* (A staple of the Tenkaichi series, I know we have Heroes and Xenoverse where back when BT2/3 were new neither existed but keep the What-Ifs in. That shit's good)
*_Sim Dragon_* (I think Sim Dragon making a comeback would be fun. Just having dumb fun learning to balance training with rest and going through boss battles in an RPG simulator just to earn a kiss from 18 was a brilliantly dumb fun mode. Only I think Tenkaichi 4 should have it set so you can choose which DB waifu you want to earn a kiss from just so it can have replay value)
*_Training Mode_* (I think training mode mode only needs 2 things. Don't be like Tenkaichi 3's training mode and make it like Budokai 2's training mode. For those that missed out on B2 or forgot but in B2 you would play as Goten and go step by step on the basics of the game's playing style and updated fighting system. I want that brought back. Kid Goten being the focus of training mode and being trained by the greatest members of the Z team would not only be fun to see play out but it would help keep you invested in learning the Tenkaichi system all over again.)
*_Survival_* (If we don't get a training mode then survival mode is a must. A mode where you pick the character you want to main/lab and you just go up against the entire game roster to see how long you can last before going online. I'd rather we have both Training and Survival modes but if we don't have one *_WE NEED_* the other.)
*_Evolution Z_* (For those that remember, in Tenkaichi 3 Evolution Z allowed you to customize characters and buy items. I think they both should be brought back but I think character customization in this game should go beyond just colors and different skins. I think Evolution Z in this game should allow you to customize character skills to. What I mean by that is you should be able to go to customization, go to Goku, unequip Kamehameha as his super and replace it with Frieza's Death Beam. Imagine the creative character builds we'd see online with Hercule using Devil Man's beam, or Omega Shenron using Beerus' Hakai, or Beerus using Yamcha's Spirit Ball, or Yamcha using Gogeta's Soul Punisher. That would be INSANELY AWESOME! Do I realistically think that would happen? Nah. I doubt Spike would come up with something that would be this fun and creative. But it's a wish list. It's not meant to be realistic.)
*_Shenron_* (Shenron should definitely come back. You just gather the dragon balls either offline in story mode or even online in just casual/ranked matches. And if you gather all 7 you can make a wish. *_BUT_* I think it would be a much smarter to have not just Shenron but other dragons in the series as well. Like Ultimate Shenron (GT), Black Smoke Shenron (GT), Ultimate Shenron (Super) and each Shenron you get can grant different things. Like for example if you get original Shenron he can grant you basic things like character customization options, zeni, etc.
Ultimate Shenron can grant you any wish as far as online customization options for like premium or ultra rare profile plates, animated profile pics etc only his gimmick is if you make a wish with him like how in GT a wish on him ends with the planet exploding, making you have to fight a secret boss in order to have your wish granted and if you lose the planet on the map explodes and your wish is not granted
Black Smoke Shenron can just be a troll dragon that gives you stupidly broken wishes like you can wish for infinite health online or infinite wealth and when you make a choice he blows smoke in your face and makes you go through a Shadow Dragon survival gauntlet where every Shadow Dragon is amped up like a secret boss and you have to fight them back to back with no health restoration.
Ultimate Shneron can just be the dragon that gives the best wishes in the game where you can unlock hidden game modes or wish for a new profile with 100% completion in case you want to make a second one for whatever reason. But basically the idea is his wishes are the best in the game and you get no draw backs)
But that's about it with my wishlist. I don't think it'd be hard to make Tenkaichi 4 better than 3 and the Raging Blast games. Just give us A LOT TO DO both online and offline so people have a reason to keep coming back over and over and over again even after we 100% complete offline mode.
Yes.
Interesting idea.
As long as we get a BT2 world type story mode, I'm content.
Yes, I approve of this idea.
Yes.
Yes.
Sim Dragon coming back would be cool in this engine.
I never got to play B2. : (
Survival. : D
Item mode should go without saying. kek
DBZ wouldn't be DBZ without Shenron. : )
Ult & Black Smoke Shenron... interesting concepts.
Indeed. Content is a must.
@@THEGrandMasterHawk Bro, if your PC can emulate, download PCSX2 and play Budokai 2. That game is literally peak DB gaming
I will eventually.
The charge smashs is a good point
A lot of stuff got taken out going into raging blast it feels like
Many things were removed, changed & buffed.
I want exchange blows back. That missing in RB2 was a major flaw.
I want them to bring back the unique interaction at the beginning of a fight like in raging blast
Yo Hawk got the PS5, same account and everything let’s have some fun when this game comes out. I’m curious what they will add that’s new to the game but I think the ground work and essential will still be there from past games…I feel like RB1 had the smoothest seay mechanic tho I hope it’s as good as it was on there
Add me, brother. I changed my ID recently to GrndM4strHawkSFX to accommodate my clan tag.
@@THEGrandMasterHawk Ok I got you I’m a try and add you sometime today
I really hope they don’t split characters into eras too much. Biggest pet peeve of the series for me.
We'll have to wait & see what we get!
I know it's not the kind of stacking you were referring to but I remember when I abused the shit out of it on RB1 online lmao... Trolling purposes only!!!
Like chaospunishment mentioned you could stack those super and place each one as a different super (stacking give me your energy super 4 times with goku was hilarious... 99,999 dmg Ultimate easy same goes for burter special pose you could use his 1 frame signature infinitely)
Nice list most of the stuff you mentioned I wasn't aware of since I didn't had much access to the internet during BT3 to learn all those things kinda amazing tbh.
Me personally (still haven't finished watching the video entirely) if they gonna make snap vanish work like it did on RB2... Screw that shit whether if you agree with me or not I believe some stuff CANNOT be allowed to snap vanish (not talking about RB1 Unvanishable smash attacks) but allowing you the option to vanish normal rush attacks was a piss poor decision, I wish they would add a decent coop online but I guess that's asking to much (2vs2 will do)
BTW what console you will get the game? I'll probably get it on PS5
I had no particular issue with either vanish system but I'd definitely prefer Tenkaichi's. If we get RB1's it'll be a shit show.
There's several things I could've added to this video but honestly I didn't want to make it close to an hour long, would've been excessive. If anyone wants to toss me more ideas I can always discuss them in streams.
I'm pre-ordering the Collector's Edition (there's no shot this game won't have a CE) for PS5 & getting regular for Steam as well since I doubt the game will have crossplay, honestly. Are you getting a PS5? I don't plan to reconnect my Series X again anytime soon.
@@THEGrandMasterHawk again RB1 had its flaws (many flaws...) I am not saying the snap vanish on it was perfect but it required some sort of skill... I feel like RB2 made it to easy to vanish some stuff and again vanishing normal rush attacks was really a stupid idea, I also hate with a passion the super rise cancel escape if you got hit by one....why not make the player that catched someone in a combo first have his console crash for daring doing such a thing in the first place, game should reward incentive not the other way around but again that's just my opinion here(obviously we don't want the RB1 hold your controller down type combos) if it will work like that BT3 that's fine by me
Hopefully holding the guard button will actually mean something this time...
I have a PS5 for 2 years now, also just upgraded my net to 1000MB (it's a big leap from 40-60 Mb) wonder if our connection will be better now...
Console crash. lmaooo. I love you, bro. 😂 Yeah, BT's system was a good "straight-down-the-middle" type of vanish system; Rush Techniques like Rolling Hammer (Smash Attacks, for your RB language) being vanishable alongside level 1 & 2 (you could make level 2 charged smashes unvanishable in RB2 if you timed them properly) charged smashes, would all be ideal for a return to Sparking Zero.
I concur! Holding block is so beneficial in RB because it's such a simple system, so hopefully we get the guard system from BT back.
Awesome! Have we added each other yet or no?
@@THEGrandMasterHawkI can't reply for some reason... Comments get deleted... What's your psn?
GrandKyriosHawk but I'm planning to change it soon to accommodate my clan tag. Hit me up on Messenger if RUclips is giving you too much trouble.
Hi hawk, will you be making a breakdown video about the latest s0 trailer?
Yes! Sometime during the week!
You do gotta understand that they have Mouse and Keyboard in mind. We don't know if they'll bring back that many mechanics considering that the best way to play the game is on controller. Not on Mouse and keyboard
Why on Earth would they have mouse & keyboard in mind; it's going to be on PC but that doesn't mean they're thinking about mouse & kb.
@@THEGrandMasterHawk Because it is going to be on PC, you said it yourself. Not everyone who owns and who will play Sparking Zero on PC has a controller. I'm sure some will want to play On keyboard and Mouse.
Maybe they do something like FighterZ, but FighterZ is a 2.5D game, so it's a bit easier. We will have to see
@@naza.2k065 Yeah that's true, but I don't know many keyboard players. Most people I know do have at least a 3rd party controller. I'm sure they'll implement a suitable method for clashes & such w/ kb&m.
Indeed, we just have to wait & see!
Can we please get this video popular! Get it to the bigger public, hopefully spike. Or at least get people like you to play the closed beta
If there is a closed beta I'll obviously try to get in. (: Thank you!
bro W video but the audio is really low
I have extremely sensitive hearing & am still struggling to find a suitable decibel level for videos, so I do apologize. Maybe from now on I'll keep my headset volume low & increase the decibel levels on the clips so it's suitable for everyone.
Raging Blast 2 mechanics were better as much as I love Budokai Tenkaichi 3 Dragon Ball Z Budokai Tenkaichi 3 has really good speed for Dragon Dash and regular Dash but snapping vanish punch and kicks are way better in Raging Blast 2 I hope they bring those mechanic back
RB1 & 2 had a fixed speed, fixed isn't necessarily "better", it's just easier for everyone else. Literally everyone else. lol. Let's wait & see which ones they bring back.
All i want is gohan ssj2 with the spin combos😮💨💯
Beyblade Gohan.
4:09 i have been playing bt3 for more than 7 years and i pretty much mastered the game completely but only this I haven’t been able to figure out how to do sway evasion HOW ?WHAT BUTTONS WE PRESS ?
Your dash & block buttons while in close-quarters; dash becomes sway / step-in, block becomes sway out.
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lets be real here, if they let og's like you create the ins and outs for this game, it would become best anime game of the century
That's a really high compliment. I appreciate that. Thank you. 💙
You're wishing/hoping for alot here😂
These are realistic expectations; in order for the game to succeed in what made Tenkaichi what it is, many of these features need to make a return. At least the core fundamentals like rush combos & free flight. If they change everything else hopefully there will be a way to compensate for what didn't make it into Sparking Zero.
@@THEGrandMasterHawk I'm just not gonna get my hope up for something that's been brought back after 15yrs
Definitely don't want customizable supers but otherwise agree with most other things
Of all the new features you don't want customizable Supers? Why? You'd rather have like a million character variants again?
@@THEGrandMasterHawk character variants are what make Tenkaichi, Tenkaichi. I also prefer to know what moves my opponent has and it not be a guessing game
@@snapaholic1 rofl. I don't mind the variants at all but having customizable Supers for some characters is still great to have, like in Frieza's & Vegeta's cases.
Same. If they were to make customizable supers it should be done the SF3 Third Strike way where it tells you what they modified for their supers.
Nice video, for me, this is the bare minimum required to buy the game lol
If customization is expanded on imagine
The only wishlist that matters. 😊
damn ive been doing a whole story playthrough once every year for bt3 and i never noticed the momentum mechanic. that is actually really cool.
People need to forget Tenkaichi 3. 😮
Yes, Sparking Zero is a reboot. And yes, it has Elements from the Tenkaichi/Raging Blast Series. But it is a whole new Beast of a Game. This will be the definitive Dragonball Game. 🎉 Y‘all acting like this will be a perfect Clone of Tenkaichi 3. 😂 No! This is a new World of Dragonball Gaming we’re in. You all need to accept this Fact.
It's not about being a clone of BT3, it's about retaining features that made Tenkaichi what it is today. The features I've included will help the longevity of the game which is what everyone wants. The only other thing everyone wants is a huge roster but in my opinion, the people who want only that or glorify that the most, care the least about the game.
if it has Sparking in the title, I would certainly hope that it has the features and mechanics that defined the Sparking series, and many of the ones mentioned here are those series-defining features
Im concerned you left out the cancel system from rb2
Raging Blast was a Tenkaichi cancel system but not Tenkaichi in itself, bringing it into a game where the movement isn't benefited properly from the cancel system is pointless. I didn't include it because SZ needs to play like Tenkaichi, not Raging Blast. If we get some Raging Blast esque cancels, that's cool though.
@@THEGrandMasterHawk Im concerned you left out the cancel system from BT2
Hawk how dare you not have all z on mission 100 lol jk I honestly would love if they brought back the cancel system from rb2
It's not my save file so blame whoever it belonged to. lol
You can stack kaioken in raging blast 2 if im not mistaken
You need to assign Kaioken to all 4 directions in order to do it; stacking in Raging Blast is generally not the same or to the same scale as Tenkaichi.
@warhawk059377 i dont remember having to do that but it has been years since ive played. I definitely could be wrong.
@@chrisfreeman6819You don’t have to, I don’t know what he’s talking about lmao.
@@thelettucebarrel7784 i didn't think i was tripping 🤣
@@chrisfreeman6819 Yeah, RB2 had a lot more complex and in-depth systems than BT3. Made it much more fun to play imo.
Crossplay
I want my giant characters back, and dragonball super heroes characters. I wonder wht the story mode will be
Bt3 you can direct block
Up, down & forward, not left & right.
Hawk this might be a bad take but i dont think right block and left block is needed. Sometimes simpler is better. What do u think 🤔?@@THEGrandMasterHawk
Curious, what about the feature in Raging Blast 2?
Where they get trapped in the rocks/buildings?
Here is an example in this video it starts at 0:58
ruclips.net/video/xM0a_exF2bA/видео.htmlsi=hkqP_Y1eJF-HUjgu
Also the background character menu, I also hope they’re like your guide like how they did with that Bleach Shattered Blade for the Wii.
I forgot to add Crashes but they weren't that important to me, I was more so focused on gameplay mechanics which Raging Blast generally did not have. Crashes & background char menus would be cool too though, for sure.
EDIT: Just re-read your msg. Yes, hopefully it does happen. xD
We need DBZ BT3 remastered
This would still be nice to have.
Wait up smash? Tf is this smash bros?
Absolutely.
Stfu 😂 there both good games and sparkling zero is probably going to feel like The old games but what you have to realize it's the modern time now so sparkling is going to be it's own thing yes you probably going to see similar things but I bet there's going to be something in the game where it's going to be piss off so many people, so if you don't like sparkling after it gets released and think its trash than go stay in your retro life 😂😂
Thanks for the view!
The fact that he is giving his opinion on what the game should have and you told him to shut up is stupid. You realise that if bandai fucks the game up, they are fucked. Hell the source code of bt3 has been decompiled by the bt4 team. Who says thaey can't add new features and be even better than SZ?
Hey what's your discord ID we doing a sparking zero tournament soon. Wanna join a dragon ball community we getting all the content creators on RUclips.
I already responded to you on my other video, it's grand_master_hawk but you could join my server & ping me so I know it's you.