CREATIVE ENERGY - Upgrades and Ideas - Modern Horizons 3 Precon

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  • Опубликовано: 9 июн 2024
  • Had a little vacation and got my energy back just in time to bring you my upgrades for Creative Energy, the 3rd precon from Modern Horizons 3.
    Decklist:
    archidekt.com/decks/7977934/c...
    #magicthegathering
    #commander
    #modernhorizons3
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Комментарии • 16

  • @Jrocknrolla
    @Jrocknrolla 25 дней назад +1

    Don't apologise for family time by friend! Deck ideas are great (again)! Well done.

  • @Lazerus101
    @Lazerus101 24 дня назад

    I think the logic behind Skyclave is that you can copy it (providing you keep the copy alive). How do you feel about All Will be One in this deck?

    • @twilightscallmtg
      @twilightscallmtg  24 дня назад

      I get the logic but I don't like that it essentially forces you to pay 3 energy or give them back a token as the copies die, which then gives them blockers for Satya later. A little counterproductive.
      As for All Will Be One, it would be a good include since I don't see a way to do infinite silly with it in this deck and it could compliment Aether Revolt pretty well.

    • @Lazerus101
      @Lazerus101 24 дня назад

      Combat celebrant CAN send it infinite or any other "take another combat phase" card

    • @twilightscallmtg
      @twilightscallmtg  24 дня назад

      You could do that. I try not to do that and curb my spikier impulses when building because it's no fun to build up to something for someone to suddenly pop off infinitely on turns 4-5 and end the game before you've actually had a chance to play anything of consequence. But those choices are up to the player, their preferences, and whatever power level they are aiming for.

    • @Lazerus101
      @Lazerus101 24 дня назад

      Absolutely. Play whatever fits your table. I have just been doing a lot of theory crafting around this deck the last few days to find the sweet spot.

  • @charlesmwolf
    @charlesmwolf 24 дня назад

    so a few things id ask, first why the key to the city? while i get that discard is an alternative cost condition, the decks lack in good draw spells in general, let alone the ones you removed, does that not leave your hand often empty? wouldnt it be better to grab something like Trailblazer's boots which give an equipped creature nonbasic Islandwalk? unless your pods are consistently full of mono colour decks, Trailblazer boots for 2 + 2 equip is a much more cost effective artifact to help with bypassing opponents.
    Whirler virtuoso has won me a few games in testing already, your underselling just how strong that second ability is. for 3 energy you get a 1/1 flying body, if you have enough ETB abilities like Guide of Souls, Aetherstorm Roc, and /or Decoction module, or Gontis Aether heart, you have infinite Thopters. but it is an amazing card in response to attackers given that even if you dont have infinite thopter energy, you can have a way to build out a board of flyers at a blinding speed. On paper, that 1/1 flying artifact looks flimsy, but you neglect the capability of making a billion of them. or using those flimsy fliers to protect yourself when you could fully lose otherwise. If you had said you didnt like how easy it could go infinite i would understand, but to say you have better things you want to spend your energy on is folly.

    • @charlesmwolf
      @charlesmwolf 24 дня назад

      to add, you went for token copying effects and a bit of additional proliferate, but did you think of Copying the triggers instead, to make the deck less reliant but still grateful for satya? I speak of Panharmonicon and Virtue of Knowledge.
      both will copy effects like Guide of Souls, Ghonti's Aetherheart, etc, alongside any ETB triggers the creatures would have on their own.
      Guide of souls being able to make creatures into Angels can also call for putting in a Roaming Throne, naming angel, though you can name human to a decent effect too. to copy triggers.
      I personally threw in Lithoform Engine and Strionic Resonator for the trigger ability copy for 2 mana, given that i ran with an ETB trigger heavy deck styling.

    • @twilightscallmtg
      @twilightscallmtg  24 дня назад

      Boots are a good suggestion. I mostly like Key as it does allow for draw filtering but Boots are totally valid (barring lots of mono colored decks in your pods).
      I do try to avoid infinite comboing, but I didn't think much about it with the Virtuoso as I was researching. It can be useful, but I just haven't gotten a lot of mileage out of it when I've messed with it in the past (I've tried using it in the Fallout precon before, which is where the idea of it being wasteful to spend energy on it comes from). I'm possibly jaded.
      Now maybe this has enough toys with the Guide and other new stuff in the main set to push it to be great, but past results weren't great for me. If it works for you, great to know that it may now be a consideration to leave in the deck.

    • @twilightscallmtg
      @twilightscallmtg  24 дня назад

      Panharmonicon was left on the cutting room floor. I literally had it laying on my desk as I was trying to come up with a slot for it and I decided to cut it as it gets overused in a lot of lists.
      Resonator and Engine are good alternatives that don't see nearly as much play.

    • @charlesmwolf
      @charlesmwolf 24 дня назад

      @@twilightscallmtg oh, yah with the fallout precon I 100% agree that whirler would not be worth the energy when that deck had a lot of energy payouts and not nearly enough generators. with my playtesting of Creative energy, energy generation is obscenely high where making 3 thopters to block is nothing, since with Satya you can have 2 - 3 Rocs or Guides on the board fairly quickly. which also help greatly offset the cost. its actually one of 2 infinite combos that come in the precon (whirler + decoction module + Gontis = infinite for turn 4 win / lightning runner with enough generation to get infinite combats)

    • @charlesmwolf
      @charlesmwolf 24 дня назад

      @@twilightscallmtg didnt help that madison Li does not trigger on ETB but on cast, making her generation not count towards the thopter either

  • @TheBigPenguu
    @TheBigPenguu 24 дня назад

    Is anyone thinking about maybe Reconnaissance for free attacks? Every attack commander loves getting their triggers without worrying about dying.