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  • Опубликовано: 10 янв 2025

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  • @SpencleyDesignCo
    @SpencleyDesignCo  3 года назад +1

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  • @fatmanjoh
    @fatmanjoh Год назад +14

    I bought this machine about 2 years ago and had been using it with the manufacturer’s blade Excellent results and still sharp (still on the first set). I considered upgrading to the helical cutter but after seeing the installation effort required and the cost it’s just not worth it.

    • @nwembly
      @nwembly Год назад +1

      Agreed! Most people buy the Dewalt because it’s really good, but ‘affordable’. The machine itself is about $750/800ish, then $500-700 for the “shelix” plus A LOT of time and effort to install, RE-calibrate and tune. At this point you’re already in the range of a good Grizzly or Jet planer which is more “commercial grade” quality. Sure, it doesn’t have a helical head, but that can be added anytime.

    • @2112kustoms.
      @2112kustoms. Год назад

      I let a couple idiots ues mine, (with cation and reluctance) they pretty much burned it up in a day. I've taken some really heavy cuts and didn't have any blade issues, and had it for a couple years now..

    • @johnwinn5225
      @johnwinn5225 Год назад +4

      @@nwembly But minus the superior cut and noise reduction

    • @chrisnash2154
      @chrisnash2154 Год назад +2

      Understandable if you never use wood that could have a foreign debris, (ie reclaimed wood). Also understandable if you’re not milling a lot of wood. IMO this is the ultimate small form factor planer. Having said that, if I was starting out and had every intention of making woodworking into a business AND assuming I have two grand sitting around for said planer AND I’m ready to bring in an electrician to wire 240 for a big boy, then yes, I would be on the hunt for a used Powermatic, Grisley or JET planer.

    • @nwembly
      @nwembly Год назад +2

      I no longer lend out or allow others to use my stuff (VERY CAUTIOUS). It’s not about even always the money to replace it.
      It’s I spent hours/weeks researching a tool. Order it, more hours calibrating it, get it how I want… Reluctantly let someone use it: THEN “Oops! I broke this thingy. I didn’t know not to use this tool like that (for something it’s not intended for, and told them before they left)
      It’s sad that there’s more and more people these days it seams that just don’t “respect” and care about other peoples tools (and “stuff”); especially nowhere near how “you” the owner does. Not the same as it used to be; like when I was growing up. You respected a man’s tools. Return it in the same (if not better) condition. Anything happens, no questions asked you man up, say sorry I broke it…as you’re handing them the new tool and or money.

  • @lefty1024
    @lefty1024 Год назад

    BEST and HONEST video of all the work it takes to switch out cutter heads. Appreciate your FULL Video.

  • @mwscheetz
    @mwscheetz 3 года назад +5

    The snap ring on the left side serves as a stop for that smaller cutter head bearing, it does not need to be removed. It is difficult to remove and after you go through this process you’ll realize it could have been left alone.

  • @JustinsCustomDesigns
    @JustinsCustomDesigns 2 года назад +1

    Recieved my Lux Cut 3 assembly a few months ago and am going to install it today. Thanks for the great video.

  • @stevehoffman3341
    @stevehoffman3341 Год назад +1

    great tutorial, thanks! I had installed helical cutterhead in my DW735 but took it back out cause I kept blowing my breaker. found 2 unrelated electrical issues... 1) bad outlet (I back-stabbed the outlet instead of using the terminals), and 2) the safety switch for the planer lid was bad. I fixed both of those, getting ready to try reinstalling the spiral head and see if my breaker-tripping issue is resolved, or if the extra amp draw from the spiral head is still causing an issue. Your video was excellent refresher for me to get this done, thanks

    • @thedowlingboys7715
      @thedowlingboys7715 Год назад

      Curious if it was the extra amperage from the planer?

    • @scottlandb6579
      @scottlandb6579 Год назад

      Curious if you’re just removing to much material at one time. I do trip a breaker on my extension chord quite frequently at least once when planing using mine. But honestly I think this happens cause I wound up over turning even at a 1/4 turn and it was removing too much material and tripped breaker. But I suck at electrical so don’t ask me.

  • @farnsworth111
    @farnsworth111 11 месяцев назад

    I've had my Shelix head in my 735 for over 7 years now. It runs quieter, does a way cleaner job of the surface and I've not had one of the cutters become damaged. It took me about an hour to swap out the head and have not regretted it since. Only real issue I have run into is that I can't remove as much material in one pass as I did with the original cutters so be aware you may need to do more passes to get down to your desired finished layer. If I attempt to take too much material off at once it will kick out the planner.

  • @egbluesuede1220
    @egbluesuede1220 2 года назад +1

    This is a fantastic instructional vid. Thank you so much. I was a little intimidated to do this myself, so thankfully I found this video and it was a breeze.

  • @CharacterRedWorkshop
    @CharacterRedWorkshop 3 года назад +2

    That’s honestly more than what I thought just to replace them. Love the in depth explanation you provided man.

    • @SpencleyDesignCo
      @SpencleyDesignCo  3 года назад +3

      It seems like a lot, but honestly you could do it in an hour or so if you know what you’re doing....oh, and don’t film. That takes a lot of time 🤣

    • @CharacterRedWorkshop
      @CharacterRedWorkshop 3 года назад +1

      @@SpencleyDesignCo yeah for sure man, that’s really what’s stopped me with the router table. I want to film the assembly and do it right. Also trying to wait on an adapter for my microphone 🎙

    • @SpencleyDesignCo
      @SpencleyDesignCo  3 года назад +1

      Makes sense to me! I’ll be excited to see the video of that router table going together!

    • @keithnp51
      @keithnp51 3 года назад

      @@SpencleyDesignCo Ha! I didn't know what I was doing and it took 6 hours over 3 days.

    • @SpencleyDesignCo
      @SpencleyDesignCo  3 года назад

      Woah!

  • @steveh8724
    @steveh8724 2 года назад +1

    I have an unopened DeWalt 735 planer and the OEM size Shelix cutter head just waiting to be installed. Over the months that I contemplated buying these two items I watched many Shelix install videos for this planer. Yours is one of the shortest that still has excellent video of each step in the process and tips regarding all the little pieces and special tool (eg snap ring pliers) to make the process easier. At least I'm hoping that's the case! Thanks for this excellent video. Subscribed.

    • @1steelcobra
      @1steelcobra Год назад

      I think if I were getting both at once instead of as an upgrade, I'd just get he version Byrd sells with it pre-installed.

  • @monteglover4133
    @monteglover4133 Год назад

    Thank You for posting I had assumed that the process would be more complexed
    But first my big old green General jointer gets one long wait for it

  • @nathanielsnyder1323
    @nathanielsnyder1323 3 года назад +2

    That first big snap ring I almost sent this planer through the wall!!!!what the hell was that all about so damn hard to get out

    • @SpencleyDesignCo
      @SpencleyDesignCo  3 года назад +1

      🤣🤣🤣 i didn’t have that hard of time with mine. Maybe your center shaft was really pressed hard against it? (That’s what she said)

    • @danhgilmore
      @danhgilmore 2 года назад

      @@SpencleyDesignCo I've spent the last 30 minutes trying to get that first damned snap ring out. I have a pair of snap ring pliers from Irwin, and as soon as I get it almost close to coming out, it snaps back into place. I'm inventing cuss words over here.

    • @SpencleyDesignCo
      @SpencleyDesignCo  2 года назад

      🤣🤣🤣 maybe take a break and get back at it tomorrow

    • @danhgilmore
      @danhgilmore 2 года назад

      @@SpencleyDesignCo After a few calming moments (read as: cracked a beer) I was able to remove it :)

    • @SpencleyDesignCo
      @SpencleyDesignCo  2 года назад

      Nice!

  • @wmcrosbyesq
    @wmcrosbyesq Год назад +1

    Outstanding video showing the whole process for those of us thinking about upgrading.

  • @joemed6222
    @joemed6222 Год назад

    Great instructions! For a moment there I thought you were replacing a cam shaft in an engine lol. Lots of steps. We’ll done🤙🏻

  • @1stGregA
    @1stGregA Год назад +1

    You didn't make sure you set the knives, but you want me to subscribe to your tutelage? Have a nice weekend.

  • @keithnp51
    @keithnp51 3 года назад +2

    Hi! Should have watched your vid before my install! I had to laugh because your comment about possibly having made a mistake on the install because the planer was so much quieter was exactly what I experienced! Also to successfully remove the belt from the pulley are used a piece of rope and looped it around the pulley and then rotated it back-and-forth and was easily able to pull it off. People should also remove the access hole to the small end of the pulley to make sure that the belt is properly centered. I found that it had slipped off a little bit and I used a scrap of wood to slowly push it back as I rotated the pulley back-and-forth. Also is there a key which fits into the shaft was a very tight fit on the new cutter head. I tried it on the old cutterhead and found it slipped in very easily But the tolerances on the new head seem to be tighter and it was a challenge getting it to slip into the hole or the mortise into which it rests. I no longer have to use both in here and over the ear hearing protection, which is what you described. The cutter works great and is incredibly smooth. Thanks again

    • @SpencleyDesignCo
      @SpencleyDesignCo  3 года назад

      The sound difference is INCREDIBLE, isn’t it!?

    • @keithnp51
      @keithnp51 3 года назад

      @@SpencleyDesignCo Amazing! I expected less noise under load but was surprised in the unloaded decrease in sound. To potential purchasers - worth the money IMHO but I waited 7 months for mine! Good company but not very good at giving delivery updates.

    • @SpencleyDesignCo
      @SpencleyDesignCo  3 года назад +1

      They’re a super super super small company and the logistics industry is a nightmare right now. That’s what my day job is in

    • @keithnp51
      @keithnp51 3 года назад

      @@SpencleyDesignCo definitely understand the delay. They initially implied "weeks" but were vague. Took 7 months. Charged my credit card at the beginning. Good product , happy with it and respect for their ability to find a niche and build on it.

    • @SpencleyDesignCo
      @SpencleyDesignCo  3 года назад

      Oh that’s a bit of a bummer! I would’ve expected them not to charge you until it shipped 🤷‍♂️

  • @davidm2645
    @davidm2645 2 года назад

    I did the same thing to my planer - except - mine is a Powermatic model 201. 22". It's a monster driven by a 7-1/2 hp motor. Although it was a little pricey for the cutter head - $1,500 for the head and another $1,000 to have the entire machine tuned up at a professional shop dealing in just woodworking tools. Buy money well spent in my opinion.

  • @leppad
    @leppad Год назад

    Three Questions: 1. Did you use a torque wrench or adaptor when reassembling? 2. Did you use any loctite, if so then where? 3. Which Shelix head did you order given that one option is a smaller diameter head which leads to incorrect depth settings?

    • @twinstickwizard3941
      @twinstickwizard3941 Год назад +1

      Nothing really needs torquing or locktite. Don’t buy the smaller dia option. The only advantage is you can install it without taking the inserts off. It puts extra load on the drive wheels because of the smaller size. I installed one about a year age and would highly recommend it much quieter and if you chip an insert it’s a 2 min change.

  • @Yannis2022
    @Yannis2022 Год назад

    The Shelix I have produces a horrible result with deep streaks despite trying to have each blade seated correctly. The problem introduced itself after one of the blades broke. Trying to see if the body of the Shelix actually was damaged.

  • @kristinmontclair
    @kristinmontclair 2 года назад +1

    Snap ring pliers are absolutely indispensable!!! I didn't even bother trying needle nose, I saw on a couple of videos that it was a nightmare. Cheap pair of snap ring pliers is $6 at Harbor Freight. I sprung for the $15 pair. Hardest part was getting the old head out. REALLY had to whale on it to get bearings to release from housing. So I thought getting new bearings in would be awful. It wasn't, they went right in! Shellix bearings must be a couple thousandths smaller.

  • @paulsimons769
    @paulsimons769 2 года назад +3

    So what wasn't the outcome he expected?

    • @shaboo2
      @shaboo2 2 года назад +2

      Same question here.

    • @andrewlarson2753
      @andrewlarson2753 2 года назад +1

      How quiet it was compared to stock knives

  • @ronweaver4056
    @ronweaver4056 3 года назад +1

    Great video! I am looking to replace the head on my 735 with the helical cutter head from grizzly. I'm not gonna lie, this looked complicated at first, but after a few times watching it I think I've got it. Subbed!

    • @SpencleyDesignCo
      @SpencleyDesignCo  3 года назад +1

      Thanks so much, Ron! I truly appreciate the support!

  • @tralfazy
    @tralfazy Год назад +2

    Hey Eric. Good job on the how-to of replacing the cutters but you aren't saying WHY you are replacing it. How does it improve on the standard blades? I have a DW735 but if I was going to spend $450 to put Sheelix cutters in it I would need to know how my planer is going to be improved by it. Can you describe the difference between before and after? That would be really helpful. thanks much!

    • @skyehagen5521
      @skyehagen5521 Год назад +1

      I upgraded my DW735 with a helical cutter. I did it for two reasons. The first is the quality of the cut, and the second is the cost of replacing blades. With the blades, there is more of a chopping action on the wood, and you can see ridges on the wood. With the helical cutter, there are no ridge marks. And, the cutter slices the wood, because the helical cutter blades are at an angle to the wood. As for blade replacement, if I get a nick, I have to rotate (each cutter blade on the helical cutter has four sharp edges) or replace a single, inexpensive cutter. With blades, I would have to flip or replace all the blades. Depending on the type of lumber, the breakeven point could be a number of years. I mill a lot of reclaimed lumber, so my breakeven point is much shorter.

    • @tralfazy
      @tralfazy Год назад

      @@skyehagen5521 Good info. Thanks!

    • @woody987654
      @woody987654 Год назад

      Another advantage to the helical cutter, other than noise reduction, ease of changing a chipped insert, and cut quality, is when planing highly figured wood there is little to no roughness or tear out in those woods like may happen with the straight blades.

  • @jcarlin
    @jcarlin 3 года назад +1

    Great video! I'm gonna give this an attempt tomorrow.

  • @johnwinn5225
    @johnwinn5225 Год назад

    Bought the machine couple of months later bought the shelix never looked back

  • @steveandulsky566
    @steveandulsky566 Год назад +1

    I really enjoyed the totally organized and methodical way you explained this entire procedure. Thank you.

  • @louisevad6091
    @louisevad6091 Год назад

    I use a torque insert on my drill to make blade replace way faster

  • @andrewlarson2753
    @andrewlarson2753 2 года назад +1

    Still can’t believe these cost as much as the planer itself 🤑. Thanks for a great step by step video

    • @oldkingcrow777
      @oldkingcrow777 Год назад

      Yeah haha but figure you can rotate each individual blade, they're actually pretty cheap to replace as well, plus the carbide. It's a no brainer

  • @dougprentice1363
    @dougprentice1363 Год назад

    I am extremely disappointed with the scallops a helical leave. Everyone always say how great the finish is, smooth as glass. Yep, smooth wavy glass.

  • @polycarpflavius6945
    @polycarpflavius6945 Год назад

    Take pictures before & after removing screws, bolts, part's, so one will have a reference to work from putting it back together.

  • @ZedEh
    @ZedEh 3 года назад +2

    Thanks for making this video man! Im overhauling some of my tools in the shop and this planer is on my short list to replace my old planer. But I'm kind of bummed dewalt doesn't offer it from the factory with a helical blade. How much did the helical blade cost you? When I checked on Amazon it said out of stock so it wouldn't show the price.

    • @SpencleyDesignCo
      @SpencleyDesignCo  3 года назад +3

      Thanks for checking it out Zach! I believe the helical head was around $450 US. I know the manufacturer is SUPER far behind. I believe their lead time is around 3-4 months right now

  • @woodcraftbynieves
    @woodcraftbynieves 2 года назад +1

    Very detailed. Thank you.

    • @SpencleyDesignCo
      @SpencleyDesignCo  2 года назад +2

      Sure thing! Are you looking to upgrade your planer?

    • @woodcraftbynieves
      @woodcraftbynieves 2 года назад

      Not yet. I just got the planer and came across your channel looking for dust collection solutions. I do want to eventually transition to the helical

    • @SpencleyDesignCo
      @SpencleyDesignCo  2 года назад

      The easiest solution would be attaching a dust bag to the outlet but it’s going to fill up fast!

  • @researchcapt
    @researchcapt Год назад

    What bad outcome? You fixed if by making sure the cutters are aligned. Right?

  • @jimmygreen50
    @jimmygreen50 2 года назад +1

    Hey Eric. Good video very informative....but I see your video descriptions are not what they represent. I was looking for reviews on the dewalt and the description of not what I expected made me click. I am not looking to change my cutter head to the sheilix but if I do I know how to now. Lol.

  • @dantwomey
    @dantwomey Год назад

    I found the helical cutterhead to be an awesome upgrade except if you're working with epoxy.

    • @1steelcobra
      @1steelcobra Год назад

      Probably a good time to either invest in a drum sander or CNC for your shop or find an industrial place that rents time on their sander than can surface tabletops all in one go.

    • @dantwomey
      @dantwomey Год назад

      @@1steelcobra I’m maxed out for room in my mini-shop so no CNC. I did find a local shop that will plane for almost free but they’re limited to 33”.

    • @1steelcobra
      @1steelcobra Год назад

      @@dantwomey Well, another idea's to have a router sled you could set up and take down as needed you keep in a corner.

  • @jcarlin
    @jcarlin 3 года назад

    Last thing… I'm having a hell of a time trying to figure out how to connect my 735 to a 2.5" dust hose (in a way that's detachable for my flip top cart). Any tips there?

    • @SpencleyDesignCo
      @SpencleyDesignCo  3 года назад

      Try this: ruclips.net/video/59m52t9-sB0/видео.html

  • @handlehidden-f2j
    @handlehidden-f2j 8 месяцев назад

    Caveat emptor! I have a Makita and 2 oem pullies do not fit shelix shaft and depth of keyway is not correct and key does not fit. I brought to attention during warranty and manufacturer will not fix.

  • @lawrencep5427
    @lawrencep5427 3 года назад

    Eric.........great video....following all your instructions....but how did you get that orange belt back on? any tricks you can pass on?

    • @SpencleyDesignCo
      @SpencleyDesignCo  3 года назад

      Send me an email ( SpencleyDesignCo@gmail.com) and I’ll send you the unedited clip for that segment. You’re not the first one that’s asked me about having trouble with that part haha

    • @lawrencep5427
      @lawrencep5427 3 года назад +1

      @@SpencleyDesignCo Evidently just writing you was the answer. Went back out and pushing as hard as I could on the belt as I rotated the main cylinder I was able to catch and rotate the whole belt on. Getting the ribs to finally line up with the main pulley and the smaller top pulley proved taxing.....but I finally got everything back to normal. Thanks for the reply......enjoy your site and pages!

    • @SpencleyDesignCo
      @SpencleyDesignCo  3 года назад

      Glad to hear you got it situated!

  • @mauriciomarin2963
    @mauriciomarin2963 3 года назад +1

    No idea what this thing is or what it does lol
    I've just purchased my first power tools. A drill bit and an impact driver. Just enjoy watching your videos for some reason.
    I guess I like to see how things are built and with detail. Just incase I ever want to build it lol 😅
    Odd idea but I wonder if you could make a build vedio utilizing these tools maybe a series

    • @SpencleyDesignCo
      @SpencleyDesignCo  3 года назад +2

      Hey there, Mauricio! Thanks so much for checking out the videos! It wasn’t much more than about 18 months ago that I purchased my first power tools so I hope you’re ready to have a blast!
      Can you expand upon your series idea? You mean a series where I only use a drill bit and impact driver?

    • @mauriciomarin2963
      @mauriciomarin2963 3 года назад +1

      @@SpencleyDesignCo
      Already building out my list of what to buy to make small diy projects. But that'll have to wait until I have more space.
      Well that would be pretty minimal but I guess just tools that most of us would likely have. I do enjoy that you already incorporate what alternative tools one could use if you don't have some of the professional stuff.
      It's a dumb Idea and wouldn't know what could be built. Also not sure if that plays into the demographic that you're trying to attract. Either way I still have a fun time watching.

    • @SpencleyDesignCo
      @SpencleyDesignCo  3 года назад +1

      Over the summer I did a 2x4 series. Used super cheap materials to make unique designs. Check that out!

  • @JBG20
    @JBG20 3 года назад +1

    Fantastic video!

    • @SpencleyDesignCo
      @SpencleyDesignCo  3 года назад +1

      I appreciate the support, Robert! Thank you very much!

  • @jcarlin
    @jcarlin 3 года назад

    Also: why did they make this so difficult?! I kinda wish I could just pay someone to deal with it for me!

    • @SpencleyDesignCo
      @SpencleyDesignCo  3 года назад +1

      if you were local, i'd definitely do it for ya!

  • @billabongodysee
    @billabongodysee 3 года назад +1

    How the heck did you get the belt back on!? I would not have left that tip out of this video, otherwise super easy to follow.

    • @SpencleyDesignCo
      @SpencleyDesignCo  3 года назад +2

      I just pushed it back on whole rotating. I didn’t have that much trouble with it or I would’ve gone into more detail lol

    • @billabongodysee
      @billabongodysee 3 года назад

      @@SpencleyDesignCo Mine just does not want to go on, maybe I have weak hands.

    • @SpencleyDesignCo
      @SpencleyDesignCo  3 года назад +2

      Did you try rotating it while you put it on? As soon as I got one ridge over the wheel, I just rotated it while pressing it across the other ridges

    • @billabongodysee
      @billabongodysee 3 года назад

      @@SpencleyDesignCo Yeah, I tried for a good hour, got frustrated and walked away for the night. My belt is super tight, planer is practically brand new.

    • @SpencleyDesignCo
      @SpencleyDesignCo  3 года назад

      Yeah mine was only used for a few hours before I swapped it out. If you give me your email, I can send you the raw unedited clip of the part so you can see how I did mine

  • @stephenmcgeown
    @stephenmcgeown 3 года назад +1

    Wow, quite a complex process! Thanks for doing this - I was planning on buying the same planer and Shelix cutterhead.

    • @SpencleyDesignCo
      @SpencleyDesignCo  3 года назад +3

      It’s really not too bad once you get going. Just watch the video through a few times, and then pull it up on your phone while you go through the install. You’ll do great!! 😀

  • @aaronbono4688
    @aaronbono4688 7 месяцев назад

    Great detailed video. I hope I never have to do this.

  • @randykane474
    @randykane474 Год назад

    Valuable video. Thanks.

  • @shadex1307
    @shadex1307 Год назад

    wasnt it exactly the outcome you expected?

  • @jeanst-jean3012
    @jeanst-jean3012 Год назад

    Muy interesante.
    Make better job than others knifes?
    Or are tha same.
    Thank you.

    • @73dcp
      @73dcp Год назад

      I recently needed to replace the blades in my 17yo Ridgid TP1300 planer. Turns out OEM blades are no longer made, and knockoffs didn't fit. Decided to go with Lux Cut as they actually had a cutter head that fit my model in stock for immediate shipment at around $475. Yes, the helical cutter is much quieter, but better still, I have learned that no matter which way the grain runs in the wood, there is virtually no chip-out. I have had to scrap many pieces from projects where some gnarly grain just would not plane well with straight blades. That's no longer an issue. The results from using the Lux Cut cutter are far superior, to me, and seldom even need any sanding before finishing.

  • @Elwillie2009
    @Elwillie2009 Год назад

    dude¡ you look like jorge masvidal the ufc fighter no disrespect

  • @JamesWelbes
    @JamesWelbes Год назад

    No thanks

  • @ragingbullalf5790
    @ragingbullalf5790 Год назад

    A very good and instructional video. When I win a lottery DeWalt will get a visit and your video will be very helpful BUT why oh why do you find it necessary to add clickbait? It's annoying!

  • @colemahaney4208
    @colemahaney4208 Год назад

    Big mistake installing that type of head .......i went back to stock head much better

    • @73dcp
      @73dcp Год назад

      Care to elaborate? I love mine!

  • @Eagle1836
    @Eagle1836 Год назад

    So..... was it worth it?

  • @coloradomountainman8659
    @coloradomountainman8659 2 года назад

    Good info. Terribly annoying background "music". Could do without any at all which would make for a better video.