Can Texas Really Secede From The Union - National Divorce?

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Комментарии • 15 тыс.

  • @LegalEagle
    @LegalEagle  3 месяца назад +443

    Do you think the United States should get a divorce? 🚀 Start saving with Rocket Money! Managing your finances starts here: legaleagle.link/rocketmoney Get a great lawyer, fast! ⚖ legaleagle.link/eagleteam

    • @franciscoacevedo3036
      @franciscoacevedo3036 3 месяца назад +11

      William T Sherman *laughing* in Tom Cruise meme

    • @Blobfishkat
      @Blobfishkat 3 месяца назад +5

      No but we do have freedom sooo...

    • @radroofer
      @radroofer 3 месяца назад

      I am going to divorce the United States because it's as communist as it gets. I'm going to the Republic of Russia

    • @sithlordbilly4206
      @sithlordbilly4206 3 месяца назад +3

      Can you do a reaction video on the 2002 movie: "Interstate 60?! 😮"

    • @anwaraisling
      @anwaraisling 3 месяца назад +1

      Yes. I think that any who don’t respect this country, who distorts and hates its legacy should leave and never return. You can take the unlawful immigrants (invaders) with them.

  • @brynbloom5993
    @brynbloom5993 3 месяца назад +2095

    You cannot just say "who's currency is tied to the price of cookie dough" and move on. I'm gonna need a whole episode on that. 😂

    • @TheRogueWolf
      @TheRogueWolf 3 месяца назад

      If the cookie dough rises, does that cause inflation? THE TRUTH MUST OUT!

    • @paragonfr33dom99
      @paragonfr33dom99 3 месяца назад +124

      Yeah this issue needs more legal eagle insight

    • @carolinecagle3266
      @carolinecagle3266 3 месяца назад +92

      Commenting for visibility and complete solidarity. We need answers.

    • @SonOfRamenEgg
      @SonOfRamenEgg 3 месяца назад +168

      I have to respect the cookie dough standard. It is more real than any cryptocurrency.

    • @jordansweet8054
      @jordansweet8054 3 месяца назад +6

      So Family guy did it?

  • @nikanj
    @nikanj 3 месяца назад +1459

    I admire the discipline and professionalism it took to go the entire 18-minute video without once saying the word "Texit."

    • @kuroneko334
      @kuroneko334 3 месяца назад +20

      It was there though once

    • @XnoobSpeakable
      @XnoobSpeakable 3 месяца назад +13

      ​@@kuroneko334not said

    • @WorldNoir
      @WorldNoir 3 месяца назад +10

      You make RUclips a better place.

    • @kleinerprinz99
      @kleinerprinz99 3 месяца назад +2

      The magic of editing. Kappa

    • @connor9024
      @connor9024 3 месяца назад +5

      He made an air bud joke before saying texit
      What a champ

  • @boomstories
    @boomstories 2 месяца назад +492

    9:31 to be fair "x cannot be sued without its consent, and it has not consented" is kind of a really terrifying legal sentence

    • @lolilollolilol7773
      @lolilollolilol7773 2 месяца назад

      And yet, that's the reason why the US doesn't recognize the ICC court in The Hague. According to the US, neither the USA nor its citizens can be sued by The Hague because Washington simply doesn't agree to. Of course the ICC can still sue them and condemn them, but the USA won't cooperate, and won't send their war criminals. The only thing is they can't set foot outside of american territories else they would risk being arrested.

    • @chrismulhauser333
      @chrismulhauser333 2 месяца назад +35

      Yeah I saw that and said wtf is that nonsense everyone should be equally subject to the law

    • @camerongaul261
      @camerongaul261 2 месяца назад +53

      I'm far from a legal scholar but I think it's because the ability to sue someone is a legal provision and the US government is the highest authority of US law since the US hasn't submitted itself to international law agreements. So if as a hypothetical, some outside country wanted to sue the US, and the US was like "nah", who's gonna make the US go through the process? What power is going to drag the US into international court?

    • @JoshSweetvale
      @JoshSweetvale 2 месяца назад +39

      Meet a *real* Sovereign.
      A nation can say 'I do not consent' and it'll actually have effect.

    • @cassiedevereaux-smith3890
      @cassiedevereaux-smith3890 2 месяца назад +4

      Somewhere, Elon Musk just climaxed.

  • @MrClickity
    @MrClickity 2 месяца назад +226

    To quote Ben "Yahtzee" Crowshaw: "Short answer, no. Long answer, noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo"

    • @schubird43
      @schubird43 2 месяца назад +10

      I was not expecting to see a Zero Punctuation reference in the comment section of this video... 🤣

    • @jimmymcgill7121
      @jimmymcgill7121 2 месяца назад +4

      Neither was I but it's perfection

    • @calvinhoward3808
      @calvinhoward3808 2 месяца назад

      I understood this video as a yes. It just requires a lot of lost lives.

    • @jaws392
      @jaws392 2 месяца назад

      Just because paper work says you can’t do it, doesn’t mean a bunch of people with guns can!

    • @tks2072
      @tks2072 Месяц назад

      ​@@calvinhoward3808a lot is a very large understatement. Civil wars are meat grinders.

  • @SilverKnight16
    @SilverKnight16 3 месяца назад +7090

    "America doesn't have to swear allegiance to the crown, because we're dope and we do dope things," is not something I ever had on my Legal Eagle bingo card.

    • @thefrizmeister3666
      @thefrizmeister3666 3 месяца назад +25

      😂

    • @kennethpetty6700
      @kennethpetty6700 3 месяца назад +16

      😂😂😂

    • @DissociatedWomenIncorporated
      @DissociatedWomenIncorporated 3 месяца назад +30

      It’s also entirely false judging by how deferential and reverential presidents are towards the British monarch on their mandatory visits to the UK

    • @Greezy42
      @Greezy42 3 месяца назад +102

      Legal Eagle quoting Dave Chappelle quoting Kanye West

    • @johnsteiner3417
      @johnsteiner3417 3 месяца назад +185

      @@DissociatedWomenIncorporated And of course some MAGAt comes in here with their noise, not knowing what diplomatic respect and courtesy between heads of state looks like.

  • @JohnathanGross
    @JohnathanGross 3 месяца назад +1935

    Now, I'm not a lawyer, but there is a flaw in the Air Bud ruling. There may not be any rule saying a dog can't play basketball. But there is a rule saying that the only ones who can play in the team must be students at the school. Since Buddy wasn't a student at the school, he couldn't play on the basketball team, regardless of his species.

    • @meepmeep1313
      @meepmeep1313 3 месяца назад +108

      Is there a rule saying a dog can't be a student at the school?

    • @JohnathanGross
      @JohnathanGross 3 месяца назад +257

      @@meepmeep1313 doesn't matter. He wasn't a student at the school.

    • @spvillano
      @spvillano 3 месяца назад +154

      @@JohnathanGross do you have evidence to support the non-student status of the dog?

    • @SorryBones
      @SorryBones 3 месяца назад +63

      There’s no law against dogs being students at a school, they would immediately enroll him and win the game

    • @laxpaint
      @laxpaint 3 месяца назад +123

      @@SorryBones most schools have a minimum GPA in order to play sports.
      Furthermore, there are other legal documents they require in order to enroll a student.
      Lastly, isn’t that dog like 47 years old in dog years?

  • @zlm001
    @zlm001 2 месяца назад +125

    I really hate that so much of what ends up on the public school curriculum is messed with by politicians and the most extreme members of the PTA crowd.

    • @davebrown8260
      @davebrown8260 2 месяца назад

      I went to public school in California during the 60s when California was a red state. We learned that the Founding Fathers were infallible mighty men of God. This conservative narrative will never end. Sad!

    • @taitsmith8521
      @taitsmith8521 2 месяца назад +5

      And messed up by academics and scientists.
      We were taught in school that all Pacifc Islanders came from Asia, even though their own history says they came from South America, as well as Thor Hyredahl proving this to be fact in 1947.

    • @theakiwar9118
      @theakiwar9118 Месяц назад

      @@taitsmith8521the thing with science is, it is meant to be disproven. The scientific way is not to find the truth, rather eliminate every other possibility until you have something left that cannot be easily disproven
      Doesn’t mean it is the truth, but doesn’t mean it is wrong either.
      The theory of relativity for example, was but a hypothesis, now made into a theory, because all the evidence and all the millions attempts to disprove it, have failed.
      Doesn’t mean it cannot be disproven one day. But if it is there will be a new theory, describing the groundworks of relativity even better
      Best example is that relativity is incomplete, as we still can’t link the quantum realm with the relative one with our current understanding.

    • @destroyerofturtles5024
      @destroyerofturtles5024 Месяц назад +1

      @@taitsmith8521I kind of assumed it was a mix, like they came from multiple places.

  • @FredzDimension
    @FredzDimension 2 месяца назад +20

    As a Maine Native living not far from the Canadian Border i find the idea of Maine doing that both hilarious and awesome despite realistically impossible.

  • @TheQuyman
    @TheQuyman 3 месяца назад +6789

    This channel started as genuine advice for law students, then transitioned into reviewing pop culture depictions of the law, and is now consistently explaining how the entire United States government effectively exists, one exciting time

    • @Celeste-hu5vg
      @Celeste-hu5vg 3 месяца назад +385

      Knowledge is power, and Legal Eagle is empowering the public!

    • @tomaskling2429
      @tomaskling2429 3 месяца назад

      No it turned into a socialistic propaganda machine.

    • @LoneWanderer905
      @LoneWanderer905 3 месяца назад +453

      I love that this channel made me realize that, as a Brazilian, it's not only my country's government that is a joke.

    • @MelodicQuest
      @MelodicQuest 3 месяца назад +156

      I've always had an interest in legal proceedings but felt like I was too dumb to understand it. Legal Eagle breaks things down to a level where even an idiot like me can understand. I've learned a lot over the years.

    • @flybyguy1450
      @flybyguy1450 3 месяца назад

      This channel has really just been explaining how utterly stupid and failed the republiQan party is.

  • @teathomas
    @teathomas 3 месяца назад +1113

    The “Let’s at least stay together until the kids are out of the house” was so good he had to do it twice

    • @scootergirl3662
      @scootergirl3662 3 месяца назад +67

      lol, editing mistakes happen to even the best of us.

    • @planescaped
      @planescaped 2 месяца назад +21

      They call 'em two-take Devin!

    • @idrather7953
      @idrather7953 2 месяца назад +1

      @@mulin-kd6ttis that a translation error bro LOL

    • @scottthewaterwarrior
      @scottthewaterwarrior 2 месяца назад +7

      In most cases I'd agree, though I have a friend who's parents did that and it just made life miserable for everyone involved. Have several other friends who's parents got divorced before the kids moved out, some it was for the better, some for the worse, it really depends on the situation.

    • @SoCalMinion
      @SoCalMinion 2 месяца назад +39

      I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed this. How embarrassing to say it twice!
      I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed this. How embarrassing to say it twice!

  • @soundautomatic1
    @soundautomatic1 2 месяца назад +56

    props to the commitment to cosplay by the president of molossia. he goes hard.

  • @sarahd.5244
    @sarahd.5244 2 месяца назад +17

    Was not expecting a Molossia reference today! Wow. That brings back some interesting memories from the 2010s.

    • @SovereignStatesman
      @SovereignStatesman 2 месяца назад

      Strawman. The USA is not a sovereign nation. A sovereign nation, is a free, sovereign and independent state. And the American Revolution established the States as 13 "free, sovereign and independent states;" with the full power to levy war, conclude peace, contract alliances, establish commerce, and do all the other things that independent states may of right do. So that's 13 sovereign nations, in an international Confederation; and 12 of them seceded by their own power c. 1787.

    • @laurelanne5071
      @laurelanne5071 Месяц назад +1

      That was like a sleeper activation for those of us that watched the Nostalgia Critic!

  • @dramis.m
    @dramis.m 2 месяца назад +861

    I was today years old when I learned as a foreigner that when Texas was deporting migrants to Martha's Vineyard, they weren't actually deporting them to Martha Steward's personal property.

    • @soheyrazar1814
      @soheyrazar1814 2 месяца назад +20

      Hahahahaha!

    • @dionysianapollomarx
      @dionysianapollomarx 2 месяца назад +24

      I thought this too once upon a time before I googled what Martha’s Vineyard was. Lol.

    • @luisa_4120
      @luisa_4120 2 месяца назад +7

      Yooo this comment had me crying 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @lisaahmari7199
      @lisaahmari7199 2 месяца назад +2

      😅😂😂🎉

    • @wingsofwar13
      @wingsofwar13 2 месяца назад +3

      I LOL’d at this

  • @erinmckibbin4236
    @erinmckibbin4236 3 месяца назад +1026

    A very big reason that a national divorce would not work is because most states are actually purple. The only reason the states are labled red or blue is because the Congessional districts are highly gerimandered. Each state that cecedes would have a fight on their hands from within.

    • @burningsnow9870
      @burningsnow9870 3 месяца назад +295

      ​@@MrYotosun Sure, you keep thinking that stereotype. It'll work out great

    • @dangeary2134
      @dangeary2134 3 месяца назад +8

      @@burningsnow9870I agree with him.
      Those are the ones that go around with small armies because the people love them so much.

    • @detleffleischer9418
      @detleffleischer9418 3 месяца назад +87

      And we already have the historical precedent to prove the point, in the run up to the Civil War we already had the brutal fighting in Bloody Kansas and the secession of West Virginia from Virginia owing to their hardline abolitionist sentiment.

    • @burningsnow9870
      @burningsnow9870 3 месяца назад

      And it would be violent. A lot of red states are only that due to how the districts are set up. A lot of red states have a ton of blue voters. And Blue states have quite a number of red voters. And despite what some on the right think, many on the left are armed, trained, and fit. No one should be wanting this.

    • @pattygreen8064
      @pattygreen8064 3 месяца назад

      then all the democrats that flooded texas in the last few years can go back to cali good riddance

  • @TC-nn7xk
    @TC-nn7xk 2 месяца назад +10

    From the Texas v. White decision, "The Union of the States never was a purely artificial and arbitrary relation. It began among the Colonies, and grew out of common origin, mutual sympathies, kindred principles, similar interests, and geographical relations. It was confirmed and strengthened by the necessities of war, and received definite form and character and sanction from the Articles of Confederation. By these, the Union was solemnly declared to "be perpetual." And when these Articles were found to be inadequate to the exigencies of the country, the Constitution was ordained "to form a more perfect Union." It is difficult to convey the idea of indissoluble unity more clearly than by these words. What can be indissoluble if a perpetual Union, made more perfect, is not?"

    • @SovereignStatesman
      @SovereignStatesman 2 месяца назад +3

      Just one problem: the USA was ALWAYS a purely artificial and arbitrary relation. A sovereign nation, is a free, sovereign and independent state. And the American Revolution established the States as 13 "free, sovereign and independent states;" with the full power to levy war, conclude peace, contract alliances, establish commerce, and do all the other things that independent states may of right do. So that's 13 sovereign nations, in an international Confederation; and 12 of them seceded by their own power c. 1787. So yeah.

    • @roberthegwood3031
      @roberthegwood3031 2 месяца назад

      Riiiight. If enough people feel differently, then no government is perpetual or indisoluable. Consider Lincolns own words in 1848 on the occasion of Texas seceeding from Mexico...words that should have haunted his conscience 13 years later.
      "Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up, and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better. This is a most valuable,---a most sacred right---a right, which we hope and believe, is to liberate the world. Nor is this right confined to cases in which the whole people of an existing government, may choose to exercise it. Any portion of such people that can, may revolutionize, and make their own, of so much of the teritory as they inhabit. More than this, a majority of any portion of such people may revolutionize, putting down a minority, intermingled with, or near about them, who may oppose their movement. Such minority, was precisely the case, of the tories of our own revolution."

  • @Popajaja
    @Popajaja 2 месяца назад +8

    My position is to remind my American friends about the last US civil war and the huge casualties on both sides. Politicians who spread panic and intolerance will certainly not send their sons to the front lines.

    • @Po1itica11yNcorrect
      @Po1itica11yNcorrect 2 месяца назад +3

      Congress would NEVER authorize a Declaration of War against Texas. And the US would lose their international standing if the attacked a peaceful state for simply holding an election and deciding to leave the union. The European Union didn't attack the UK after Brexit.

    • @jacobpeters5458
      @jacobpeters5458 Месяц назад +1

      I mean Biden won't even send his son to jail, so you're right

    • @dapperbunch5029
      @dapperbunch5029 29 дней назад +2

      Independence is always purchased in blood

    • @XXMatt0040XX
      @XXMatt0040XX 22 дня назад

      @@jacobpeters5458 Biden's lost almost all of his children. I'm not even a big fan of the guy, but it's cruel when his family is invoked. Especially after that little stunt involving his baby granddaughter a few months ago.
      I'd say "Have a heart," but frankly I don't care.

  • @MaturedSinner
    @MaturedSinner 3 месяца назад +996

    The biggest takeaway from this video is that if a dog is born in the United States and lives to be 35 years old, we could have a dog as President.

    • @justicar347
      @justicar347 3 месяца назад +65

      And doubt for a second he wouldnt win

    • @garrettebling5426
      @garrettebling5426 3 месяца назад +68

      Are we talking 35 human years or …

    • @c.o.299
      @c.o.299 3 месяца назад +14

      This comment has me howling ohmygod

    • @necordektox879
      @necordektox879 3 месяца назад +45

      Just one more reason science needs to get on expanding dog life spans

    • @michaelwright2986
      @michaelwright2986 3 месяца назад +38

      You've done worse. Actually, it would make for a great election: The Reliable Labrador vs the Orderly and Intelligent German Shepherd, with an Intellectual Poodle as the third candidate.

  • @Norbrookc
    @Norbrookc 3 месяца назад +750

    This is something that Texas keeps bringing up, and it always ends up going nowhere. Several years ago I did an analysis of "what would happen if Texas left?" for a popular blog. Succinctly put: Nothing good for Texas. There is this myth that these secessionists have that nothing happens when they leave. They don't count on the military bases closing, the loss of federal grants and aid to their universities, that they'll need to get passports to travel to any state, and that all their businesses will have to deal with being "foreign suppliers" with all that entails. That's just the start of the things that happen. The economic and social damage they'll experience will be very bad, along with the reality that ... we might not want them back.

    • @dombo813
      @dombo813 3 месяца назад +225

      So basically, a Texit would go exactly the same way as the European version recently did.

    • @maggie6152
      @maggie6152 3 месяца назад +106

      So Second Brexit.

    • @SitaraAleu
      @SitaraAleu 3 месяца назад

      Don’t forget the complete and total collapse of their economy as the American dollar will suddenly lose its value to them as a foreign currency.

    • @Pile_of_carbon
      @Pile_of_carbon 3 месяца назад

      Well put. We're talking about the state that almost froze to death and desperately needed FEMA to bail them out of an epic mess of their own making. Seceding would work out great... just not for Texas.

    • @kereminde
      @kereminde 3 месяца назад +195

      @@maggie6152... "Well yes, we've had one Brexit, but what about Second Brexit?"

  • @HocusTokes
    @HocusTokes 2 месяца назад +17

    15:56 Never thought I'd see a Mean Girls reference from this channel 😂

    • @SovereignStatesman
      @SovereignStatesman 2 месяца назад +1

      Because he has no legal facts. The USA is not a sovereign nation. A sovereign nation, is a free, sovereign and independent state. And the American Revolution established the States as 13 "free, sovereign and independent states;" with the full power to levy war, conclude peace, contract alliances, establish commerce, and do all the other things that independent states may of right do. So that's 13 sovereign nations, in an international Confederation; and 12 of them seceded by their own power c. 1787.

    • @tks2072
      @tks2072 Месяц назад

      ​@@SovereignStatesmansir, we are not a confederacy, we don't use the articles of confederation anymore. We use the constitution. The states are not completely independent and sovereign.

  • @paulmccartney1982
    @paulmccartney1982 2 месяца назад +7

    The mistake at the end caught me off guard, you guys are always perfect

  • @samhandy2623
    @samhandy2623 3 месяца назад +646

    “Not legal advice: Don’t commit treason” this had me rolling laughing.

    • @peterhoulihan9766
      @peterhoulihan9766 2 месяца назад +13

      Right... especially coming from the citizen of a country that exists because of treason.

    • @scottthewaterwarrior
      @scottthewaterwarrior 2 месяца назад

      @@peterhoulihan9766 It's not treason if you win, though the chances of that are practically non-existent. Couldn't even do it when it was multiple states working together in the 19th century, with the surveillance and weapons tech the federal government has now, it'd be even harder!

    • @kameronjones7139
      @kameronjones7139 2 месяца назад +28

      ​@peterhoulihan9766 not treason if you win

    • @richardarriaga6271
      @richardarriaga6271 2 месяца назад +1

      Better Call Saul

    • @dutchray8880
      @dutchray8880 2 месяца назад +4

      "Dibs on the nukes," caught my attention. Yeah, succession would be messy to say the least. MTG isn't a scholar.

  • @SonOfRamenEgg
    @SonOfRamenEgg 3 месяца назад +1568

    I grew up in the Texas public school system decades ago. In _Texas history classes_ , they drilled into our heads that Texas was special due to how they negotiated their entrance to the Union with that mentioned "prenup/anullment" clause - obviously not what they called it but same idea. So I'm not surprised how many think it is a viable possibility.

    • @Joesolo13
      @Joesolo13 3 месяца назад

      It's really wild how they just lied like that, and that people keep believing it. Like you can read the documents for yourself, they're very clear. They *do* pre-approve Texas for dividing itself into smaller states if it wants, which is unique and notable(and can also be a state pride thing if they want it too, "we chose to stay together!" type thing), but nothing about secession. California was *also* a nation, albeit for a short period, and Vermont was actually an independent republic for a number of years.

    • @connorthompson66
      @connorthompson66 3 месяца назад +175

      Texas schools have a "Texas History" class?

    • @Card182
      @Card182 3 месяца назад +173

      ​@@connorthompson66we do, and its a mandatory part of the curriculum

    • @missZoey5387
      @missZoey5387 3 месяца назад +242

      @@connorthompson66 Not surprised they do. Texas has always been egotistical.

    • @SonOfRamenEgg
      @SonOfRamenEgg 3 месяца назад +54

      @@connorthompson66 they did back in the late 80's. Eighth grade as I recall. Remember the Alamo and all that...

  • @jackwilliam4436
    @jackwilliam4436 2 месяца назад +2

    4:30 that's why I love this channel. That cookie dough bit was ABSOLUTELY SAVAGE ! 😹😹😹😹😹

  • @portiabartel
    @portiabartel 2 месяца назад +22

    That Mean Girl reference LOL Also, just reminds me of that one old Family Guy episode.

  • @MusiciansRule07
    @MusiciansRule07 3 месяца назад +402

    "Those who do not learn from their history are doomed to repeat it." and "Aw, shit, here we go again..." are what I take from this issue.

    • @ronglurak9892
      @ronglurak9892 3 месяца назад +23

      Or the Lakota saying "Everything the world does, it does in circles".

    • @gunterthekaiser6190
      @gunterthekaiser6190 3 месяца назад +21

      "History doesn't repeat, but it sure likes to rhyme."

    • @gtrdxz
      @gtrdxz 3 месяца назад

      C I V I L - W A R. Biden is allowing legal colonization of America

    • @Nargleberry
      @Nargleberry 3 месяца назад +23

      "Those who do learn from history are doomed to watch others repeat it."

    • @ChakatBlackstar
      @ChakatBlackstar 3 месяца назад +6

      "those who fail to learn history correctly are simply doomed"

  • @Lowlandlord
    @Lowlandlord 3 месяца назад +404

    One of my favourite things is still than when Texas was talking about secession and had a petition signing about that, Austin had a petition to secede from Texas 🤣

    • @TheSkyheart5
      @TheSkyheart5 3 месяца назад +68

      That's a real issue with the modern secession too. As someone who's seen a few county breakdowns from previous elections, I can say even in the reddest states cities are democratic beacons, just like in the bluest states the countryside is a conservative stronghold.

    • @LethargicSquirrel
      @LethargicSquirrel 3 месяца назад +31

      I was wondering about that.
      Austin secedes, requests membership back in the union.
      The ROT (so fitting) threatens Austin on all sides.
      The union threatens the ROT from most sides, and from within, as well as from the air, space, and sea.
      Result: Either ROT migrates to Mexico and loses everything, or ROT surrenders, rejoins union, and is forced to connect to the national electric grid.
      They only lose (from their POV).

    • @isan_pr4505
      @isan_pr4505 3 месяца назад +2

      As they should if they want to.
      We won't be hypocritical about this as you are implying we would.

    • @XXMatt0040XX
      @XXMatt0040XX 3 месяца назад +20

      ​@@TheSkyheart5 You've got a very good point. I live in NY, and I think the state's a prime example.
      I am personally very pro-2nd Amendment. That's the only "Conservative" opinion I have. Shame the pro-2nd party is also anti-women's rights... But, I digress.
      However, that gun stance is not a common opinion where the population density's high. NYC of course being the example. However, the further up north you go here, the more you **need** a firearm. I'll give you one reason; bears. This state is much bigger than people think, and the wilderness goes on, and on, and on... But that wilderness is still dangerous.

    • @thunderb00m
      @thunderb00m 3 месяца назад +9

      As a person who lives in austin, thats my wet dream

  • @donreid6399
    @donreid6399 2 месяца назад +5

    Tying the value of your currency to the price of cookie dough? Dude...I'm sold! 🙂

  • @rationallyright4626
    @rationallyright4626 2 месяца назад +18

    "You can not sue me because I did not give you permission to sue me." 🤣 I think I'll try that one if I get sued.

    • @ryanjensen1945
      @ryanjensen1945 2 месяца назад +2

      This will work if you have the army standing behind you menacingly as you say it.

    • @SovereignStatesman
      @SovereignStatesman 2 месяца назад +2

      He's just talking out his Legal Beagle arse. The USA is not a nation. A nation, is a free, sovereign and independent state. And the American Revolution established the States as 13 "free, sovereign and independent states;" with the full power to levy war, conclude peace, contract alliances, establish commerce, and do all the other things that independent states may of right do. So that's 13 sovereign nations, in an international Confederation; and 12 of them seceded by their own power c. 1787.

    • @ryanjensen1945
      @ryanjensen1945 2 месяца назад +2

      @@SovereignStatesman I like how you clearly signal nothing you say will be worth listening to by including 'sovereign' in your username, very thoughtful.

    • @Uncle_Jacob
      @Uncle_Jacob Месяц назад +1

      I'll sue you.

    • @rationallyright4626
      @rationallyright4626 Месяц назад

      @@Uncle_Jacob Nice Hat.🤠

  • @rebeccabrownandhoneyberry
    @rebeccabrownandhoneyberry 3 месяца назад +967

    "The right of states to secede, or rather the lack thereof of, may not have been mentioned in the Constitution, but it was decided definitively on the battlefield at Appotamax." -one of my grad school professors.

    • @kalo6661
      @kalo6661 3 месяца назад +8

      As your professor surely served in a war as well, I assume?

    • @adamk.7177
      @adamk.7177 3 месяца назад +210

      @@kalo6661 no - but if you want to, go ahead and keep defending a state's 'right' to secede and I'm sure the rest of the US will bring that war to your doorstep. Secession is not an option.

    • @InfernosReaper
      @InfernosReaper 3 месяца назад

      @@adamk.7177 Ya make it like the United States is a group of domestic abusers keeping victims in line with threats and violence

    • @ForOne814
      @ForOne814 3 месяца назад +3

      @@adamk.7177 de-facto independence without secession, however, is another story.

    • @aaronleverton4221
      @aaronleverton4221 3 месяца назад +76

      Technically it was decided on the battlefield before Appomattox. The courthouse is just where it was admitted to for the record.

  • @cyber_tano
    @cyber_tano 3 месяца назад +838

    One would think that "don't commit treason" would merit being actual legal advice.

    • @ruffethereal1904
      @ruffethereal1904 3 месяца назад +55

      I think the issue here is, the people clamoring for this don't want to be law abiding citizens if they can't get their violent fantasies enacted.

    • @x-xPhobia
      @x-xPhobia 3 месяца назад +93

      The point is he cannot give you legal advice because lawyers cannot give you any illusion of being your attorney. The client essentially starts the client attorney relationship whenever they believe it to be a relationship. It's one of the most protected things in America. So he has to ensure we are under no illusion he is guiding us as our attorney. It can open up a huge can of worms.

    • @tristanridley1601
      @tristanridley1601 3 месяца назад +33

      ​@@x-xPhobia But at the same time, don't commit treason. Lol

    • @Imahuph
      @Imahuph 3 месяца назад

      It is only treason if you loose

    • @DeputyFish
      @DeputyFish 3 месяца назад +6

      the right has never been the side looting.@@MrYotosun

  • @JohnnieKirkegaard94
    @JohnnieKirkegaard94 2 месяца назад +12

    im a little confused why states do not have the option of leaving if they want to. America isnt a dictatorship or a kingdom. Why shouldnt states be allowed to leave through a vote?

    • @allemagneproducer
      @allemagneproducer 12 дней назад

      i think most importantly it has to do with the coordination to fight future wars and such stuff. the possibilities it opens for corruption and selling land to the enemy must be also concerning. but in a free country there should also be "the free choice to be corrupt". like doing whatever drugs you want. as stupid as that is (or sounds) just from my pure speculation. money vs security and corruption vs freedom are the conflicts of our era imo

    • @JohnnieKirkegaard94
      @JohnnieKirkegaard94 11 дней назад

      @@allemagneproducer But you are talking about freedom within the country. The idea that states dont get a choice about being in the union seems insane. Like say UK there they can vote to leave which scotland tried.

  • @real.MinatoYellowFlash
    @real.MinatoYellowFlash 2 месяца назад +2

    The thing about Molossia is that the land it is on is a little bit into the grey area on a funny little mishap of map charting💀

  • @7thHourFilms
    @7thHourFilms 3 месяца назад +319

    "We can't fix roads to save our lives but we're confident we can exist without literally anyone else!"

    • @NiteshadeX2
      @NiteshadeX2 3 месяца назад +113

      Entire stated defeated by a single snow storm.

    • @burningsnow9870
      @burningsnow9870 3 месяца назад +55

      They also forget a lot of these states are super dependent on federal aid to operate. And a majority of that financial support is generated by metropolitan areas often from more liberal or moderate-left states like Illinois, New York, and California. Thats not to ignore Texas and Florida's economics.

    • @razorswc
      @razorswc 3 месяца назад +52

      They probably have the same mindset as Brexiters. Completely naive about the consequences of what would happen long term.

    • @Lolmeep
      @Lolmeep 3 месяца назад +33

      @@NiteshadeX2 Literally. a snow shower knocks their pathetic excuse of a power grid out. They'll be crying the blues the second something happens.

    • @unoriginalname4321
      @unoriginalname4321 3 месяца назад +31

      Mexican Cartels:
      "I call dibs."
      "No, I call dibs."

  • @koolkranny
    @koolkranny 3 месяца назад +2037

    Sometimes I wish they would leave, but then I'm afraid of what would happen to everyone stranded in those states.

    • @Moondog66602
      @Moondog66602 3 месяца назад +191

      We're afraid too, don't worry

    • @connorerb2338
      @connorerb2338 3 месяца назад +103

      I'm stranded in Idaho, a national divorce would be a huge problem for me.

    • @programmerdave9893
      @programmerdave9893 3 месяца назад +127

      As someone in one of those states, we’re also afraid of what would happen to us in that event.

    • @ihmpall
      @ihmpall 3 месяца назад +37

      United we stand

    • @kamikazilucas
      @kamikazilucas 3 месяца назад +28

      they could just move

  • @Chaoslevistar
    @Chaoslevistar 2 месяца назад +3

    I like how Texas has a cow boy hat in there state drawing lol

  • @QarthCEO
    @QarthCEO 2 месяца назад +28

    It wasnt legal for the 13 colonies to declare independence from the crown. They did it anyway.

    • @griffin123122
      @griffin123122 2 месяца назад +6

      Right, and they had to fight a war to do so. They didn't just declare independence and everything was hunky dory

    • @QarthCEO
      @QarthCEO 2 месяца назад +3

      @@griffin123122 Yup.

    • @hellishcyberdemon7112
      @hellishcyberdemon7112 Месяц назад +6

      ​@@griffin123122 so I find it a moot point when eagle, it will always be illegal to revolt, thats the point, you have to break the law of the current government to make a new one

    • @shawnhiggins1005
      @shawnhiggins1005 Месяц назад +1

      The issue is that unlike the left the right is the reason there are like 120 guns per 100 people or something like that 😂….

    • @connorallgood0922
      @connorallgood0922 Месяц назад +3

      @@shawnhiggins1005 No that's not because of the right, thats because of the founding fathers. The right just respects our constitution more so than the left and is actually willing to keep the 2nd amendment.

  • @robertskitch
    @robertskitch 2 месяца назад +349

    Not the US, but in a 1933 referendum Western Australia voted to secede from Australia with 68% of voters in favour of the motion, but the British Government ruled the referendum invalid so it all went nowhere.

    • @wotermelon_
      @wotermelon_ 2 месяца назад +18

      Westminster bout to drop a sequel to that in Scotland

    • @thedapperdolphin1590
      @thedapperdolphin1590 2 месяца назад +4

      People against succession typically boycott referendums like that, so I’m wondering what the actual numbers would have been

    • @wotermelon_
      @wotermelon_ 2 месяца назад +37

      @@thedapperdolphin1590 In a democratic procedure, not voting in an attempt to get what you want is beyond me.

    • @robertskitch
      @robertskitch 2 месяца назад +7

      @@thedapperdolphin1590 Australia's been a country that's had compulsory voting since the twenties, and I'm pretty sure that applies to referendums.
      Not that that would stop people from simply not voting and paying the fine, or putting a blank voting slip in the box.

    • @RAAFLightning1
      @RAAFLightning1 2 месяца назад +2

      @@robertskitch Yes it does apply to referendums. However, the recent referendum had a total number of... 15.9(ish) million votes in a country of 25 million...

  • @davidt3563
    @davidt3563 2 месяца назад +566

    They want to leave the US while they have oil deposits? That's awfully brave and stupid.

    • @iamscottsweeney
      @iamscottsweeney 2 месяца назад +59

      Certainly a bold move, Cotton.

    • @MoeHamHead-bx7og
      @MoeHamHead-bx7og 2 месяца назад

      The US doesn't need their oil. But they'll need out lithium, cobalt and nickel.

    • @lisaahmari7199
      @lisaahmari7199 2 месяца назад +6

      😅😂

    • @MultiTimelady
      @MultiTimelady 2 месяца назад

      Mexico can retake Texas as a territory again.

    • @ivoryas1696
      @ivoryas1696 2 месяца назад +4

      davidt3563
      "Come get'cha sum! 😤💥🤯☠️"

  • @Chris-ut6eq
    @Chris-ut6eq 2 месяца назад +1

    good discussion!

  • @JohnMcMasters
    @JohnMcMasters 2 месяца назад +2

    There are similar desires in Quebec in Canada but the long term effects would likely be similar. Both economies would take a massive hit and a domino effect would crumple both countries as states and provinces would leave and form new trade agreements. (Likely eventually forming the creation of smaller nations such as Texas with neighboring states or Alberta purchasing or forming better relations with BC and Saskatchewan until new larger nations form.)

  • @TARINunit9
    @TARINunit9 3 месяца назад +113

    Fun fact about Molossia: every April 15 they send foreign aid payments to the United States
    (April 15th is US tax day)

    • @Swiss_femboy
      @Swiss_femboy 3 месяца назад +25

      That’s a pretty funny way to hide one is paying „tribute“ to a neighboring superpower ;)

    • @darnit1944
      @darnit1944 3 месяца назад +2

      ​@@Swiss_femboyDunno man, paying tribute sounds like they were a part of a colony, or "territory" of the United States

    • @jhdsfalsjhdfjashdkhvjfldld8301
      @jhdsfalsjhdfjashdkhvjfldld8301 2 месяца назад

      @@darnit1944 Because they are a modern colony

    • @luckyblockyoshi
      @luckyblockyoshi 2 месяца назад +1

      Okay, that is pretty clever lol

  • @Wh00000
    @Wh00000 3 месяца назад +568

    It's important to note that a lot of the red/blue divide has a lot to do with rural vs urban cultural values. Basically, in general cities tend to be more liberal than rural farming communities. Not a hard and fast rule, obviously, but you can't "divorce" red America and blue America because both those groups are honestly spread out all over the country instead of being a monolith located in one specific area with no variation or disagreement.

    • @saddesklunch2544
      @saddesklunch2544 3 месяца назад +106

      Yeah, take New York for example. A lot of people would think it’s going to be on the blue side if this “national divorce” goes through, right? What about upstate New York, which is pretty firmly red? Or what about cities like Dallas, that are pockets of blue in red states? The map would end up looking like America has a bunch of sores all over it lol

    • @martinricardo4503
      @martinricardo4503 3 месяца назад +36

      The assumption that all the states as they exist now would remain the same after an national divorce is false. I keep seeing arguments that seem to think all this will happen in a vacuum. No original thought at all.

    • @Aspencio
      @Aspencio 3 месяца назад +7

      Id say they also rely on each other for survival

    • @dontmisunderstand6041
      @dontmisunderstand6041 3 месяца назад +19

      @@saddesklunch2544 As an example, Michgan is viewed as a "blue" state by some, but its internal politics have been dominated by the Republican Party for 90% of the Republican Party's existence. Life in Michigan is life under the rule of the Republican Party and has been since before the Civil War. That's the truth of things. But for some weird reason, people think we're run by Democrats.

    • @peterblood50
      @peterblood50 3 месяца назад +33

      @@dontmisunderstand6041 I don't suppose that may be due to Republican gerrymandering could it?

  • @daddyo3706
    @daddyo3706 Месяц назад +2

    partying like its 1861. i had to pause it...friggin hilarious

  • @bryku
    @bryku 2 месяца назад +2

    What would the legal implications be if someone killed a Vampire with a dozen witnesses? Would it be considered murder?

  • @quintafox7582
    @quintafox7582 3 месяца назад +334

    “It’s what we lawyer types would call treason”
    Made me snort out my coffee

    • @martinricardo4503
      @martinricardo4503 3 месяца назад +7

      Lawyers don't know what treason is.

    • @isan_pr4505
      @isan_pr4505 3 месяца назад +7

      I wonder if British lawyers called Wasgington a traitor....

    • @LarryDaLobstah
      @LarryDaLobstah 3 месяца назад +10

      @@martinricardo4503you don’t know what treason is 😂

    • @DonariaRegia
      @DonariaRegia 3 месяца назад +8

      @@LarryDaLobstah "Stupid lawyers, thinking they know they law" 🤣

    • @blueyandicy
      @blueyandicy 3 месяца назад

      ​@@isan_pr4505he literally was. like it or not, George Washington (and everyone else in the colonies) had a commitment to the crown that they broke. It's why using the word "traitor" negatively is always a dumb idea.

  • @hendrsb33
    @hendrsb33 2 месяца назад +847

    If we think US/Mexico immigration is ugly, imagine what immigration might be between seceded states. Human ties can be a messy affair.

    • @alexrogers777
      @alexrogers777 2 месяца назад

      Yeah all secession would do is just push any southern border issues north. A whole bunch of illegal Texans trying to flee into the US would be sweet irony

    • @JeepCherokeeful
      @JeepCherokeeful 2 месяца назад +28

      Except most of these new “immigrants” don’t have ANY ties to or within the US.

    • @TypeOneg
      @TypeOneg 2 месяца назад +55

      Actually many of them do indeed have ties here. To the land that feeds them.....​@@JeepCherokeeful

    • @JeepCherokeeful
      @JeepCherokeeful 2 месяца назад +7

      @@TypeOneg very true

    • @elseby
      @elseby 2 месяца назад

      ​@@JeepCherokeeful they are fleeing and immigrating to the US because our drug demands destroyed their countries.

  • @garrettbenedek1036
    @garrettbenedek1036 2 месяца назад

    Hey thanks for the video

  • @rosemarythedrow
    @rosemarythedrow 2 месяца назад

    Hi! Love the quasi-historical format. If you ever had a second of break from all the recent shenanigans, maybe you could analyse John Brown's statement in terms of him referencing the basis of the USA democracy, how his talking points work?
    Cheers

  • @Brian-Castillo18
    @Brian-Castillo18 3 месяца назад +346

    "Sometimes people are only textualists when it's convenient" LOL truer words have never been spoken

    • @jameswilliamson3210
      @jameswilliamson3210 3 месяца назад +61

      The entire concept of "originalism" is simply. "I magically know what the founding fathers wanted, and it just so happens to be exactly what I want!

    • @ShaggyRogers1
      @ShaggyRogers1 3 месяца назад +6

      @@jameswilliamson3210 Compared to all of the people that want to act like the meaning and intention of well established words somehow mean something else now? You act like the founding fathers and their contemporaries weren't highly educated men that led well documented lives.

    • @Jehty21
      @Jehty21 3 месяца назад +16

      ​@@ShaggyRogers1could you give an example?
      Oh, you can't? What a pity.

    • @FakeSchrodingersCat
      @FakeSchrodingersCat 3 месяца назад +9

      I would quibble over the use of "Sometimes" in that sentence. I have yet to meet or even hear about a genuine textualist in all situations.

    • @markbreitsameter3336
      @markbreitsameter3336 3 месяца назад +1

      Like California

  • @user-ek8gs4ij4r
    @user-ek8gs4ij4r 3 месяца назад +417

    The bureaucratic nightmare was one of the first things that came to mind. The second was, how dangerous it could be. The third was how the rest of the world would view us, and I think that ship may have already sailed. They already can't trust us and can't rely on us, and generally think we're nuts.

    • @janewayofchaos3255
      @janewayofchaos3255 3 месяца назад +70

      Well you already have tourists coming to the US to "see it before it crumbles"

    • @margaretwordnerd5210
      @margaretwordnerd5210 3 месяца назад +33

      @@janewayofchaos3255 yikes, really? I'd like to learn more about that. I like to think the USA will survive this year and the next. A lunatic fringe will try to overthrow the government again, but I hope they fail again.
      Also a Janeway fan. Nice name. ☺✌🖖

    • @andrewharrison8436
      @andrewharrison8436 3 месяца назад +28

      As someone from Brexit land:
      You are right about the bureaucratic nightmare
      Dangerous? - can't comment
      The rest of the world - yes, has the ship sailed? well not completely.

    • @antonnurwald5700
      @antonnurwald5700 3 месяца назад +26

      Actually, through the years of the Biden presidency i have found new respect and even admiration for the US. Now it all hinges on the 2024 election. If you flush the idiots out of both chambers and keep them away from Penn Avenue, we're good.

    • @andrewharrison8436
      @andrewharrison8436 3 месяца назад +32

      @@antonnurwald5700 If you find out how to flush out idiots, can you please let us know.

  • @CaptainSisqo
    @CaptainSisqo 2 месяца назад

    Damn, that was a smooth ad transition.

  • @tarabartee3424
    @tarabartee3424 2 месяца назад +3

    I say if Texas wants to leave the Union, I say "Don't let the door hit you on your butt on the way out."

    • @beautifulsoulgirl8683
      @beautifulsoulgirl8683 12 дней назад +1

      But then TX will take majority of the military, oil and money with it. It literally has the 8th biggest economy in the world. The U.S. needs Texas more than Texas needs the U.S.

    • @beautifulsoulgirl8683
      @beautifulsoulgirl8683 12 дней назад +1

      It practically runs like its own country already and the federal government doesn’t do anything. Texas takes Supreme Court rulings and wipes its butt with them. Has its own pledge of allegiance that they say BEFORE the U.S. one, allowed to fly its flag at the same height as the American flag, has its own grid, etc. Why does America allow this? Because it’s too scared to poke the bear too hard. Texas is the bear 🤷🏽‍♀️

  • @doesitgame
    @doesitgame 3 месяца назад +724

    I feel like "don't commit treason" is actually pretty sound legal advice under any and all circumstances, and dispensing such advice would be pretty safe without a hashtag lol

    • @GallowayJesse
      @GallowayJesse 3 месяца назад

      Who said anything about treason

    • @isabelmcgaugh711
      @isabelmcgaugh711 3 месяца назад +3

      Yeah, not treasonous just illegal

    • @doesitgame
      @doesitgame 3 месяца назад +54

      @@GallowayJesse Didn't watch the video, did you?

    • @bookfound
      @bookfound 3 месяца назад

      @@GallowayJesse Going to war against the government is treason, something you would have known if you watched the video.

    • @alexwyatt2911
      @alexwyatt2911 3 месяца назад +48

      @@GallowayJesse Secession is treasonous.

  • @wavetactics13
    @wavetactics13 3 месяца назад +696

    As a Texan from a military family, I can say the military would be a major stumbling block if they ever tried seceding. The soldiers stationed in Texas aren't all from Texas, and while some might want to make it their home like my family did, I highly doubt many in the chain of command would even consider handing over one of the largest military bases in the continental US to a seceding state.

    • @danlouie352
      @danlouie352 3 месяца назад +1

      And also most of the funding of those bases are funded by the federal government. They will go bankrupt before they do

    • @voxbury
      @voxbury 3 месяца назад +38

      It’s funny how you can’t even tell from this WHICH base in Texas you’re talking about since several in the state got that bill.

    • @danlouie352
      @danlouie352 3 месяца назад +140

      @@voxbury Military bases within the United States are considered federal property and are subject to federal law. And all bases are funded by the federal government.

    • @lukasg4807
      @lukasg4807 3 месяца назад +9

      Ever heard of Ft. Sumpter? I assume it would be a similar situation

    • @firesideshats
      @firesideshats 3 месяца назад +88

      ​@@lukasg4807Wouldn't work like that at all man that's the thing. It's not the 19th century anymore

  • @Johnysimus
    @Johnysimus 26 дней назад +1

    To add an example amongst the voluntary broken-up nations, Czechoslovakia split up into two countries in 1993 in complete peace and relatively smoothly...relatively to what it entails to split up. Where the common history of the country was dated to 1918 with the exception of WWII. So it is possible albeit this case was certainly more an exception then typical situation.

  • @hhunstad2011
    @hhunstad2011 Месяц назад +1

    The Air Bud defense 😂😂😂

  • @awgates85
    @awgates85 3 месяца назад +343

    A few of the biggest problems with state succession is all of the businesses, federal jobs, and federal money that would suddenly just leave. It would be a very messy transition and it would drastically affect trade and the GDP of these states. In Texas, just to name a few, Boeing, Lockheed, L3, Northrop Grumman would all have to leave to continue their federal contracts not to mention all the military and federal jobs like NASA as well. The trade restrictions that do not exist on interstate trade would go into effect as well, as well as multinational companies who would leave and possibly sue the state for lost revenue. Look at Brexit, and it could get a lot worse before it got better.

    • @ccthomas
      @ccthomas 3 месяца назад +63

      Oil companies would stay behind & suck as much $$$ as they could out of their newly-minted regulatory free-for-all.

    • @verdicaysen3042
      @verdicaysen3042 3 месяца назад +11

      I think its hilarious you think those companies would leave... and not just drop their contracts with the United States and establish contracts in their home country... because that's *never* happened before...

    • @TheSkyheart5
      @TheSkyheart5 3 месяца назад +86

      It's also worth noting that the major cities in Texas are very blue, so there's the mess of having parts of the newly seceded nation refusing to go along with it. Heck, the first shots of the Civil War were fired at a federal garrison in Fort Sumter that refused to recognize South Carolina's secession.

    • @paulcruz168
      @paulcruz168 3 месяца назад

      If a federal government much richer than their "home" state still exists why the hell would they drop those contracts ​@@verdicaysen3042

    • @martinricardo4503
      @martinricardo4503 3 месяца назад

      All of those blue cities get their food, fuel, and other stuff from the red countryside. Read some real history. @@TheSkyheart5

  • @chartreux1532
    @chartreux1532 3 месяца назад +641

    As someone from Bavaria, Germany. Every Country has it's Texas, in fact in Europe pretty much every one of the 44 Countries has at least 1-3 Texas Places who want to secede.
    Many because of historical Reasons, others just to use it as Pressure to their Countries Gouvernment but also a lot who basically only use it as a Meme nowadays.
    Here in Bavaria we have a very very long History of being independent for 100s of Years but also having been part of different Countries, Kingdoms and Empires.
    Nowadays it's more of a Meme, but there are still a lot of States in European Countries who take seceding seriously and even more so and for much better Reasons than Texas
    Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps

    • @frankpulmanns6685
      @frankpulmanns6685 3 месяца назад +11

      I know this may come across a little weird to a German, but in English only things referring to actual names are capitalised. The word country, for example, isn't.

    • @mostlymagical3220
      @mostlymagical3220 3 месяца назад +38

      The French have Bretagne, Spanish have Catalonia, we have Texas.

    • @MurakDurak
      @MurakDurak 3 месяца назад +12

      "Bayern ist im Ausland" - Bavaria is outside the country - is a classic joke I have to hear from my friends on the regular since I moved to Bavaria from MV for studies and probably gonna stay. They don't consider me a german anymore *very sad face* but the meme is quite culturally relevant. Wonder how long it will take until something similar gets picked up in the US?

    • @aleksandar9873
      @aleksandar9873 3 месяца назад +1

      @@mostlymagical3220 Serbia has Kosovo.

    • @merrymachiavelli2041
      @merrymachiavelli2041 3 месяца назад +14

      This is 100% true. Hell, even places that might want to secede often have places within _them_ that would might want to/have historical grounds secede from the theoretical seceded country as well (Swabia from Bavaria, for example). Secession is a bit of a Russian nesting doll, in principle it could go on forever until every town is its own sovereign state.
      The issue is more which geopolitical unit is most appropriate to exercise which level of political authority, which is a mostly subjective question.

  • @jointedlimb
    @jointedlimb 2 месяца назад +1

    Well... Maine was originally part of British Canada, but was ceded in the Webster-Ashburton Treaty, 1842

  • @karenlebeter4196
    @karenlebeter4196 2 месяца назад +2

    I was taught we could secede in High School, class of 1969, few months before we landed on the moon. It kept students proud of the fact that our ancestors made a nation before we became a state. Mine came in 1830s tired of fighting wars year after year. Didn't tell us that Sam Houston arrived with a bunch of cotton growers that owned slaves. Young men in the hill country were forced to go with some confederate officers. A bunch escaped and almost made it to the Rio Grande. They were all shot. Parents had given their kids their best horses. In Dallas area the officers sold the horses and kept the money. The boys were on foot.

    • @SovereignStatesman
      @SovereignStatesman 2 месяца назад

      Just one problem: the USA is not a sovereign nation. A sovereign nation, is a free, sovereign and independent state. And the American Revolution established the States as 13 "free, sovereign and independent states;" with the full power to levy war, conclude peace, contract alliances, establish commerce, and do all the other things that independent states may of right do. So that's 13 sovereign nations, in an international Confederation; and 12 of them seceded by their own power c. 1787.

  • @Drewmen
    @Drewmen 3 месяца назад +280

    “[MTG] knows from experience what it means when someone decides they can’t stand you anymore and unceremoniously leaves you.”
    I am relaxing under the entire oak tree that’s throwing off that much shade

    • @brigadier-tc8565
      @brigadier-tc8565 3 месяца назад +26

      I'm doing the opposite, I'm warming myself up on that total roast

    • @alsowinning7524
      @alsowinning7524 3 месяца назад +7

      Magic the Gathering knows what?

    • @Mark_Agamotto1313_Smith
      @Mark_Agamotto1313_Smith 3 месяца назад +7

      @@alsowinning7524 Magic: The Gathering really should be abbreviated as M:tG.

    • @leithcrowther6086
      @leithcrowther6086 3 месяца назад +2

      @@Mark_Agamotto1313_SmithIn fairness, Magic was here first.

    • @Mark_Agamotto1313_Smith
      @Mark_Agamotto1313_Smith 3 месяца назад

      @@leithcrowther6086 Oh, I agree, but it is Magic: the Gathering, not Magic the Gathering.

  • @wethepeople9412
    @wethepeople9412 3 месяца назад +537

    Let the senators have their own country where they can pimp out the taxpayers defensive military to the highest bidder. Oh wait, they already do.

    • @conormcjannett5894
      @conormcjannett5894 3 месяца назад +3

      What are you even talking about

    • @scottthewaterwarrior
      @scottthewaterwarrior 2 месяца назад +65

      @@conormcjannett5894 They are talking about how congress constantly writes the pentagon blank checks because nearly all senators are in the pocket of Raytheon, Boeing, Lockheed Martian, and other defense contractors.

    • @rafaelcomfsemph
      @rafaelcomfsemph 2 месяца назад +15

      @@scottthewaterwarrior Im south american and always thought why american senators are so close to the military, this is so strange, usually the military communicate with senators through the executive goverment
      in my country once a big general from an agency similar to pentagon tried to sechedule a meeting with a senator, it leaked and it was news nation wide, in fact it got so scandalous that a bunch of high ranking military are being "forcefully retired" after that because the president got spook out about it

    • @scottthewaterwarrior
      @scottthewaterwarrior 2 месяца назад +23

      @@rafaelcomfsemph It's usually not the generals that meet with the senators, it's the lobbyists from the defense contractors who both donate huge sums of money to the senators. What would be considered bribery in just about any other country is completely legal here because "free speech" cause a couple decades ago the courts decided money = speech.
      It goes far beyond the military too, a senator will own stock in a company, then pass a law that helps that company, thus increasing the stock value.

    • @rafaelcomfsemph
      @rafaelcomfsemph 2 месяца назад

      @@scottthewaterwarrior Yeah man! this is so strange, what american politics call "lobbying" in the majority of other constitutions is dispositioned as "passive corruption"
      American politics are so strange, because your people is locked out of means to pratically reform the system without a new constitution

  • @kodywalker9902
    @kodywalker9902 28 дней назад +1

    The thing is Texas seceding from the Union is possible because Texas joined the Union through the Treaty of Tyler. If the state can prove the Federal government is defying the peoples rights then the treat of Tyler becomes void and so does Texas’s Union with the US.

  • @mr.d.rektorstudios
    @mr.d.rektorstudios 2 месяца назад +1

    Can you do a follow-up on the Hawaiian independence movement? As far as I can remember, the overthrow of the legitimate government and annexation was declared to have been illegal, and therefore there might be a case to grant them independence.

  • @joedellinger9437
    @joedellinger9437 2 месяца назад +498

    5:30 Actually when I lived in Hawaii at the time of the 100th anniversary of the overthrow of the Hawaiian monarchy, secession of Hawaii from the union was repeatedly discussed. The governor even ordered the US flag not to be flown on state property for one week. It was simply not reported in the national media.

    • @jonaton7910
      @jonaton7910 2 месяца назад +50

      The annexation is definitely a hot topic here

    • @VaetanThought
      @VaetanThought 2 месяца назад

      The annexation of Hawaii was illegal and should be overturned, but the main island wouldn't be ruled by the natives it should be ruled by, but instead progressive white expats.

    • @BrainyThyme3869
      @BrainyThyme3869 2 месяца назад +66

      @@jonaton7910 Hawaii's annexation was illegal under international law since the native Hawaiians never relinquished their sovereignty to the Americans who illegally overthrew their government with the backing of the US. Hawaii is most likely the state to gain independence from the US.

    • @jonaton7910
      @jonaton7910 2 месяца назад +5

      @@BrainyThyme3869 I know. I'm from Hawaii

    • @99EKjohn
      @99EKjohn 2 месяца назад

      @@BrainyThyme3869 My god, by definition an annexation is unwanted. There was nothing illegal about the annexation of Hawaii, unethical sure, but the law doesn't care about ethics, a government itself is automatically unethical.

  • @slashandbones13
    @slashandbones13 3 месяца назад +171

    How would red and blue state separation even work? Because the major cities in red states are usually blue and the more rural areas in blue states are usually red.

    • @Elektrokardiogramm
      @Elektrokardiogramm 3 месяца назад +67

      Exactly. You can look at any political map and see that the separation is less blue states vs. red states, but actually urban areas vs. rural areas.

    • @joelgray4403
      @joelgray4403 3 месяца назад +32

      Visiting rural California from rural North Carolina was less different than expected XD

    • @drsunshineaod2023
      @drsunshineaod2023 3 месяца назад +41

      Well, can you say "Vast, incalculably horrendous acts of ethnic cleansing and years if not decades of terrorism and reprisals, repeated at every level like an ever-widening fractal of horror across an entire continent"? Because that's... probably how it'd pan out. See: Syria.

    • @charlesfranks1902
      @charlesfranks1902 3 месяца назад +2

      I've said for a long time, that Philadelphia and Pittsburgh should be made "free ports".

    • @charlesfranks1902
      @charlesfranks1902 3 месяца назад

      @@Elektrokardiogramm The blue cities can have their 5-minute cities, shortages of everything, confiscated legal guns and rampant crime

  • @kevinmoore8780
    @kevinmoore8780 2 месяца назад +1

    You have a video error at the end of the video in which you recorded the same text twice, likely to remove one, but both identical statements are in the video.

  • @jfmezei
    @jfmezei 2 месяца назад +2

    Based on quick read, it appears the Republic of Texas applied to be annexed to USA. They were not part of the original 13 that created the country. As such, a territory that is independant and seeks to become member of a country would have more standing to request to cancel the treaty that annexed it into USA.
    More importantly, various humans rights on self determination and democracy would basically forced the USA to accept a proper democratic vote by a state to secede. I am in Québec and we have bene though this before twice. And the Federal government even passed a referendum law to set standards for it to be recognized as valid. (I think 60% instead of 50.00001% of votes for instance).
    Texit (instead of Brexit) would take years of negotiations on splittig of national debt, veterans pensions/benefits, and negotiations on sharing services such as Post Office, Amtrak and Texas inheritig military facilities within its territory.
    The United States would have to end its addiction to oil since most of it would be imported and you'd see laws on energy efficiency and move off oil pass very quickly so it would reduce purchase of oil from Texas. On the other hand political pressuer in USA to preserve suppy of oil might mean the USA would cave in to all of Texas' demands and Texas would become richer.

    • @khaerinaenno
      @khaerinaenno 2 месяца назад +2

      > As such, a territory that is independant and seeks to become member of a country would have more standing to request to cancel the treaty that annexed it into USA.
      No. The Joint Resolution (not a treaty; Texas actually was going to be annexed by a treaty first, but it didn't pass Congress) specifically pointed that Texas (and, actually, any other state) is admitted on the equal footing that all other states; they do not have special rights other states aren't privy for.

  • @otrab1080
    @otrab1080 2 месяца назад +437

    When there's a Democrat president, there's talk of Texas seceding. When there's a Republican president, there's talk of California seceding. Just seems to be a part of the political cycle.

    • @wotermelon_
      @wotermelon_ 2 месяца назад +12

      During the Democrat premiership Republicans try to show how awesome Texas is and vice versa Democrats try to show how awesome California is.

    • @sci7zo
      @sci7zo 2 месяца назад

      @@wotermelon_ yeah the only way to make it in politics these days, it seems, is to make grand sweeping gestures that rile up your followers and inspire loyalty. Anyone loyal to a political figure doesn't deserve the skin they inhabit. Give me skin.

    • @Beefnhammer
      @Beefnhammer 2 месяца назад +23

      Yeah because those 2 states are where the country's biggest sore losers live 🤣

    • @iambicpentakill
      @iambicpentakill 2 месяца назад +57

      @@Beefnhammer Or because that is a narrative that gets clicks...

    • @Beefnhammer
      @Beefnhammer 2 месяца назад +3

      @@iambicpentakill That too

  • @marie-pierplourde2289
    @marie-pierplourde2289 3 месяца назад +297

    as a canadian, i'm always so baffled by our neighbors. thank you so much for the entertainment! "texas is once again partying like it's 1861" is now my favorite quote.

    • @connorthompson66
      @connorthompson66 3 месяца назад +40

      Texas seems to be our Quebec or Alberta. Always threatening to leave but never actually doing so.

    • @drbuckley1
      @drbuckley1 3 месяца назад +12

      Fun Fact! Nova Scotia declined an invitation to the Constitutional Convention of 1787.

    • @warlordofbritannia
      @warlordofbritannia 3 месяца назад +10

      Uncle Billy and Daddy Grant: “How many times do we need to teach you this lesson?”

    • @mabdub
      @mabdub 3 месяца назад

      Godspeed through Texas!@@drbuckley1

    • @randomuser3555
      @randomuser3555 3 месяца назад +23

      As an American I enjoy watching the PM of Canada strip it's people of rights. I really enjoyed watching the government seize private funds in order to "punish" the trucker protest. Say what you will about the Republic of Texas, at least we didn't elect a Substitute teacher/Ski instructor to lead us because he has nice hair. We also have a saying, "At least I'm not Canadian".

  • @SpitefulAZ
    @SpitefulAZ 2 месяца назад +1

    Seneca Nebraska is a town that voted to become unincorporated. In May 2014, the residents voted 17-16 for disincorporation, and the village was dissolved by the Thomas County Board at the end of June 2014. The population is 50.

    • @SuperGibbs13
      @SuperGibbs13 2 месяца назад

      And?

    • @SpitefulAZ
      @SpitefulAZ 2 месяца назад +1

      @@SuperGibbs13 if you have to ask, you'll never know.

  • @ShawsOwn
    @ShawsOwn 2 месяца назад

    Great video. Covered most bases (including the nukes) & was incredibly even handed.
    I was so impressed that I subscribed...for the.... second time. Because apparently I was unsubscribed after having subscribed long long ago.

  • @simontemplar3359
    @simontemplar3359 3 месяца назад +374

    Haley being on record saying states should be able to secede is mind blowing. The former governor of S. Carolina (the state who fired the first shots during their treasonous attempt to break this country because they wanted slavery and when they couldn't legislate a solution, they tried to break this nation by committing insurrection and outright treason. I guess it's hard to learn anything when the answer is always some function of banning books.

    • @warlordofbritannia
      @warlordofbritannia 3 месяца назад +60

      Every Dixie boy needs to learn to mind their Uncle Sam again

    • @jek4837
      @jek4837 3 месяца назад +7

      What do you consider "banning books", and which states aren't engaging in that activity?

    • @Turai12
      @Turai12 3 месяца назад +14

      I mean it SHOULD be legal to peacefully seced, any union should have such a thing.
      But someone going live on air and say that its legal I'd beyond stupid.

    • @chaosforged7600
      @chaosforged7600 3 месяца назад +28

      @@jek4837your response alone proves the point above…try reading the news and educating yourself…

    • @mf--
      @mf-- 3 месяца назад +2

      I know the states without private arms would definitely lose to states that do have private ownership. California is trying to make the most common arm illegal so I doubt they can defend themselves that well.

  • @kennethlacewell1517
    @kennethlacewell1517 2 месяца назад +534

    During the Civil War, there was a fairly clear line between the parties. Now it's more of an urban versus rural break. Even within a State trying to secede, there would be tremendous opposition.

    • @johnjay9404
      @johnjay9404 2 месяца назад +12

      Correct in a way. The growing tide of industrialization. Slavery was caught up in that. But basically, it's one side saying, our way is the best way and everybody should get on board. In a way it's fascism. And both sides can be fascist. A fear of losing control. Won't compromise. Then, drawing battle lines. It's unfounded hysteria really. Paranoia.

    • @aff77141
      @aff77141 2 месяца назад +45

      And not even that. I live in a rural area, but as a young adult with a lot of exposure to the internet, I and many other people like me don't fit the usual stereotype for rural people, on top of normal older people who already didn't fit it very well themselves. For every 10 people that go off grid, half are conervative and half are liberal (by the most basic definitions, anyways)

    • @Setixir
      @Setixir 2 месяца назад

      ​​@@johnjay9404 The civil war was not a both sides situation. The south seceded because they were terrified Lincoln was going to free the slaves... Even though for Lincoln keeping the nation together was his top priority. He wasn't going to do shit about the slaves. Even then I don't think you know what fascism is. It's not something you can just apply like a label and have it make sense.
      Now? If Texas attempted to secede they'd have a hell of a time convincing their Urban areas to go along with it. They're already in a constant fued with the five biggest ones. It won't happen.

    • @cwalenta656
      @cwalenta656 2 месяца назад +23

      Nuance here is that during the Civil War there were many pro-union enclaves in the seceding states essentially along the Apalachains. In fact most of northern AL was opposed to secession. Likewise there were areas that remained in the Union that had strong sentiment for the Confederacy as well.

    • @thomaskalbfus2005
      @thomaskalbfus2005 2 месяца назад

      So liberals would want to live in city-states like Singapore, right? There is no reason a liberal would oppose breaking up they country, because they would prefer to live in the country of New York City, Los Angeles, or Chicago.

  • @darylcoleman5342
    @darylcoleman5342 2 месяца назад +3

    The word "legal" seems to be key here. After all, the secession of the original 13 colonies from Great Britain wasn't legal either, though it was successful. The Declaration of Independence includes this... "whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends [life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness], it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government.” So maybe the idea of "legal" is actually juxtaposed against "right".

    • @SovereignStatesman
      @SovereignStatesman 2 месяца назад

      Forget all that. The USA is not a sovereign nation. A sovereign nation, is a free, sovereign and independent state. And the American Revolution established the States as 13 "free, sovereign and independent states;" with the full power to levy war, conclude peace, contract alliances, establish commerce, and do all the other things that independent states may of right do. So that's 13 sovereign nations, in an international Confederation; and 12 of them seceded by their own power c. 1787.

    • @jkeelsnc
      @jkeelsnc 2 месяца назад

      @@SovereignStatesman🤡

  • @GoldRaven-oe4by
    @GoldRaven-oe4by 2 месяца назад +2

    Just because its not legal doesn't mean they wont do it, whens the last time someone did something that wasn't "legal" just because they wanted to.. hm.. oh yeah all of human history.

  • @tylerreed610
    @tylerreed610 2 месяца назад +745

    I feel like stating "don't commit treason" is the only time I think you can say that you are officially giving free legal advice and not face blowback lol

    • @connorperrett9559
      @connorperrett9559 2 месяца назад

      Not that I think Texas has any chance of a successful secession, but it is silly to appeal to law in the case of a pending secession or revolutionary crisis. As though if only Jefferson, Marat, or Lenin had read their local laws they wouldn't have committed treason and attempted to revolt!

    • @jypsridic
      @jypsridic 2 месяца назад

      Unless you give it to Biden. Then all the brown coats come swarming at you to deny the clear and abundant evidence.

    • @asparagusoffice
      @asparagusoffice 2 месяца назад +6

      it's good advice, unfortunately two "sides" can't follow it at once

    • @jamesholcombe435
      @jamesholcombe435 2 месяца назад +6

      Not treason when it's written in the constitution.

    • @MauriceOfInfiniteAtrocities
      @MauriceOfInfiniteAtrocities 2 месяца назад +20

      @@jamesholcombe435 “one nation, indivisible…” 🤨

  • @kailomonkey
    @kailomonkey 3 месяца назад +383

    As a brit I can confirm what Devon says about secession. Our government pushed to leave the EU and now we're a wasteland of debt, failing infrastructure and poverty.

    • @WindFireAllThatKindOfThing
      @WindFireAllThatKindOfThing 3 месяца назад +51

      And this is why we're both a Constitutional Republic AND a Representative Democracy. The kneejerk, populist actions of 1 generation cannot be allowed to wreck the struggles and achievements of the past ones nor take away the bedrock of future generations.
      Which is why we proved in 1865 secession and balkanization isn't a thing we do.

    • @Artess-od8wb
      @Artess-od8wb 3 месяца назад +7

      So why not let them leave, wait for a while and then buy them back cheap?

    • @Kameth
      @Kameth 3 месяца назад +55

      In fairness we were well on the way to being a wasteland of debt and failing infrastructure before Brexit. Brexit has definitely been an accelerant, but a lot of our issues result from over a decade of Tory mismanagement. Which swings back round to that Brexit was their mismanagement as well.

    • @TheResilient5689
      @TheResilient5689 3 месяца назад

      At least you Brits and others in the UK and EU in general aren't terribly likely to come under the very possible rule of a wannabe dictator like Trump, as we are here in the States.

    • @akashsarda9689
      @akashsarda9689 3 месяца назад +6

      So…just like EU?

  • @nocursewm2938
    @nocursewm2938 2 месяца назад

    I’ve heard about California, not seceding, but changing into 2 or possibly 3 separate states. That was many years ago when the rolling blackouts were in the news, almost nightly.

  • @ericturner4857
    @ericturner4857 2 месяца назад

    As an Arkansan, the idea of a Texas secession makes me wince. Most of the big shopping and entertainment - and most importantly, mental health services - in my area is located in Texarkana, a town that is literally on the border line. There is literally a street running down the middle. What do they want, a border wall on State Line Avenue? People just have no idea what they are talking about.

  • @Lucia_DuVide
    @Lucia_DuVide 3 месяца назад +388

    as a person from Texas, I can confirm I was told Texas was allowed to secede and become a sovereign nation all the way through K-12 school. I didn't find out it wasnt true until I took a Fed Gov class when I moved to California.

    • @mikegrindstaff
      @mikegrindstaff 3 месяца назад +139

      Feelings are considered facts in Texas

    • @macngeeseyt6029
      @macngeeseyt6029 3 месяца назад +29

      @@mikegrindstaff *california

    • @blarghblargh
      @blarghblargh 3 месяца назад

      @@macngeeseyt6029 *Texas.
      Texas doesn't exist without the United States.
      Hamilton was a huge federalist, despite Abbot trying to claim him as a states right's wonk. your local politicians are lying to you.

    • @jong2359
      @jong2359 3 месяца назад +54

      Trusting a Californian education is like trusting your drug dealer.

    • @michaelbranham5854
      @michaelbranham5854 3 месяца назад +13

      It was a term set forth by Texas when they joined the union, and like everything else, the union didn't recognize it and didn't care. But Texas was serious as hell.

  • @boshwa20
    @boshwa20 3 месяца назад +308

    They cant handle a snowstorm and their police force is too scared to fight shooters.

    • @coreylemon
      @coreylemon 3 месяца назад +74

      Man, straight for the jugular, no chill

    • @BlackVulpes
      @BlackVulpes 3 месяца назад +80

      as a texan, your completely right. Texas seperated from the union would crash in on its own stupidity.

    • @Lamb666
      @Lamb666 3 месяца назад +12

      Don’t worry, the governor knows as much as he can stands for the people.

    • @junglebull2635
      @junglebull2635 3 месяца назад +9

      I hate that you’re right

    • @avalokiteshvara113
      @avalokiteshvara113 3 месяца назад +6

      ​​@@BlackVulpesfound the one sane Texan

  • @doomerdaniel
    @doomerdaniel 2 месяца назад

    "stay calm and do nothing"
    famous last words

  • @davidmassey5448
    @davidmassey5448 3 месяца назад +188

    Props to Scalia for actually answering lol. Or at least an intern who cared more than any of the others.

    • @webbowser8834
      @webbowser8834 3 месяца назад +21

      It was a shockingly wholesome letter by lawyer standards. I kinda love it.

    • @InfernosReaper
      @InfernosReaper 3 месяца назад +5

      His answer is loaded with personal bias and wrong, but it is an answer.
      The real answer is "only if the states that attempt to leave are strong enough to back it up"

    • @DemonEyes23
      @DemonEyes23 3 месяца назад +10

      ​@@InfernosReaper how did you come to that conclusion after an entire video basically corroborating the written opinion...

    • @sherlockwho5714
      @sherlockwho5714 3 месяца назад +9

      @@InfernosReaper that is a war not what was being asked. Currently no state would be able to. Not just because the US could steam roll them but because many of the citizens in the state would be up in arms

    • @webbowser8834
      @webbowser8834 3 месяца назад +5

      @@InfernosReaper I mean, if you write a letter to the highest court of the land asking "can I do X?", there is an unstated assumption you are asking them "can I legally do X?" or more explicitly "can I do X without having to face negative consequences from US law enforcement and/or military?"
      Given that you implicitly acknowledge that any state or group of states would have to "back up" their threats of secession with military force, you seem to understand that no, you cannot legally secede from the United States of America (without congressional approval at least).

  • @hrpang
    @hrpang 3 месяца назад +555

    If I learnt anything from Brexit, leaving a union on a whim because "I don't like this" is gonna basically end up like the Texas power grid in winter.

    • @neeneko
      @neeneko 3 месяца назад +54

      And that ties into what I find extra frustrating in all this. republicans in the US are utterly dependent on having their plans and policies blocked. They have a whole bunch of stuff that really gets their base excited but leaders privately dread implementation because the appeal depends on handwaving consequences.
      Take for instance the 'not enforcing the border laws' thing going on now. The GoP depends on those laws not being enforced, if they were the humanitarian consequences would be horrific and the backlash would be extreme. So they drum up outrage over the law not being followed but need Biden to ignore it.

    • @vikt
      @vikt 3 месяца назад +13

      It's not even remotely similar. The EU, contrary to what many Americans seemingly think, is not one state, is not a federation; It's a very, very loose collection of individual states that retain their sovereignty and have their own separate legal personalities unlike individual US states
      For chrissakes the EU doesn't even have its own common army to defend "itself" (although the same could be said for many, if not most, individual EU member states)
      Also, the majority of the citizens of the UK voted on their own the leave the EU. That's democracy, baby

    • @Revan2908
      @Revan2908 3 месяца назад +32

      @@vikt "That's democracy, baby"
      What happened to "We're a Republic, not a democracy!"?

    • @vikt
      @vikt 3 месяца назад +13

      @@Revan2908 1. It's a tremendously stupid saying. The US is a republic in that it has a president as the head of state, and is a democracy because the citizens of the US have active and passive suffrage (to vote people into office and to run for office). It's both
      2. I was referring to the UK when I said that, not the US, so I don't see why you replied that; although I can certainly guess with precision as to what you were aiming at
      3. I'm neither a US nor a UK citizen and have no dog in this fight

    • @candacen7779
      @candacen7779 3 месяца назад +33

      ​@@vikt The majority of the UK citizens voted on leaving the EU because they were lied to and manipulated. Not unlike what's happening here with the Russian/GOP propaganda. So I think OP's comparison is apt here.
      That being said, OP's original point stands: "... leaving a union on a whim because "I don't like this" is gonna basically end up like the Texas power grid in winter".

  • @HighHrothgar0
    @HighHrothgar0 2 месяца назад

    Definitely research the convention of states. It's actually growing in popularity in Minnesota. I personally think the state I live in would prosper being independent. Realistically I have no control over the government so I don't let it stress me out.

  • @gamb
    @gamb 2 месяца назад

    there's no way on earth that sample is genuinely representative on that 'one fifth want to secede' stat

  • @ScottHess
    @ScottHess 3 месяца назад +270

    I’m POSITIVE that the people talking about secession would be MORE THAN HAPPY to allow communities within their borders to also decide whether to secede from their state.

    • @burningsnow9870
      @burningsnow9870 3 месяца назад +132

      And of course they wouldn't be hypocrites and use extreme military force to subjugate non-conformists

    • @isan_pr4505
      @isan_pr4505 3 месяца назад +3

      As a secessionist, we'd be ok with it.

    • @davidfortier6976
      @davidfortier6976 3 месяца назад +79

      @@burningsnow9870 Oh my! Are you suggesting that racist people might be hypocrites? Oh deary me, what is the world coming to?

    • @burningsnow9870
      @burningsnow9870 3 месяца назад +41

      @davidfortier6976 I know right? It's not like something like this would also cause smaller political factions to violently oppose the central state power. I mean what is this? A prelude to a warring states period?

    • @LividImp
      @LividImp 3 месяца назад +52

      Republic of Austin? Republic of South Texas? Yea, Texans aren't thinking this through, but nothing new there.

  • @adefwebserver
    @adefwebserver 3 месяца назад +196

    I appreciate you putting that whole thing where you show the documents that explicitly point out that the Civil War was over slavery. That is actually the first time I had seen that it was written down like that.

    • @breakingbadheisenberg9703
      @breakingbadheisenberg9703 3 месяца назад +6

      Seriously?

    • @daverapp
      @daverapp 3 месяца назад +46

      Yeah American public education does a terrible job of explaining the civil war. I went to school in Illinois, which is in no way a part of the deep south where you would expect civil war reimagining to be rampant, and I was taught straight up that the civil war was not just about slavery. At no point did we go over the documents where the rebel states specifically said all this slavery and racially motivated stuff.

    • @brc8387
      @brc8387 3 месяца назад +48

      @@daverappConservatives have gone WAY out of their way to try and cover up their history. When they throw that “states rights” BS, be sure to follow up with “states rights to do what?” Don’t let them gaslight you with their history and reality-bending garbage.

    • @XXMatt0040XX
      @XXMatt0040XX 3 месяца назад +12

      @@daverapp Even up north, we're not exactly taught much. We're given "North good, South bad." And well, when it's boiled down to slavery; yes of course that's correct... But I wish that there was more in-depth education then.
      Trust me, we needed it. I grew up in the Xbox 360 era.

    • @reformedconvict
      @reformedconvict 3 месяца назад

      @@daverapp i agree if it was all about slavery how come jesus lincoln himself didnt free the slaves at Gettysburg address until 20 months after the war began and the north were getting the shit kicked out of them at that time it was to tank the southern economy lincoln didnt care about the slaves if he had lived he had planned to send them all back to africa because they werent smart enough to adapt to a free life his words lincoln was the only president whom lead the country into a civil war dont understand the praise and greatness that is given to him

  • @gonefishing476
    @gonefishing476 7 дней назад

    Uh oh. Cyberpunk 2077 is slowly looking more realistic every year.

  • @rboosterman9944
    @rboosterman9944 2 месяца назад +2

    Legality isn't going to determine secession, it's the USG's logistical military crisis and legitimacy crisis that will determine that.

  • @Pharaoh025
    @Pharaoh025 3 месяца назад +64

    Much like "The Chewbacca defense", I say "The airbud argument" should be a phrase circulated in legal circles.

  • @luxurypetscz
    @luxurypetscz 3 месяца назад +152

    Listening to this as a Czech is funny. After mutual agreement, we broke up with Slovakia 30 years ago, and it feels like we shook hands and went for a beer. No federation, no problem 😂

    • @haxie4516
      @haxie4516 3 месяца назад +50

      Yeah, but y'all are smart, sane people

    • @CorwinFound
      @CorwinFound 3 месяца назад +28

      It was a truly amazing success. I had some friends originally from Czechoslovakia so was aware of the situation when it happened. It was shocking because of the lack of violence.

    • @johan.ohgren
      @johan.ohgren 3 месяца назад +27

      One of few cases in history when things were handled the way it should be handled.

    • @imperialofficer6185
      @imperialofficer6185 3 месяца назад +3

      And as a Russian I can tell you that you wouldn't like it if the US shook hands and went for beers

    • @Something_Unique_512
      @Something_Unique_512 3 месяца назад +4

      Much smaller than the US

  • @SpartanVirus
    @SpartanVirus 2 месяца назад

    *_"Legal Eagle:_*_ We're dope & we do dope things"_
    So, this *has to be* a merchtag. Mugs, T-shirts, the works. 1% cut for the bone? 😉

  • @jenningscunningham642
    @jenningscunningham642 2 месяца назад +1

    Every state and county should have a right to self determination

  • @canuckguy0313
    @canuckguy0313 3 месяца назад +209

    I visited Molossia this past summer and it was so much fun!
    But even Kevin Baugh knows deep down he cannot really secede and does pay his US income taxes (although he calls it “foreign aid”)
    I encourage everyone to visit! You will have fun!

    • @BigMikeMcBastard
      @BigMikeMcBastard 3 месяца назад +1

      Haha, "foreign aid". When Devon said the currency was tied to cookie dough I knew he sounded like an alright guy.

    • @FunkyLittlePoptart
      @FunkyLittlePoptart 3 месяца назад +26

      Is Mollossia's major industry tourism?

    • @DonariaRegia
      @DonariaRegia 3 месяца назад +43

      He's living his dream and seems to be all in fun. He's about as serious as a bowl of cookie dough. lol

    • @NoriMori1992
      @NoriMori1992 3 месяца назад +32

      Yeah, it's pretty obvious that Molossia is functionally a tourist attraction and that even he knows it 😂 I like it, it's a fun concept. I'd like to visit someday.
      Also calling taxes "foreign aid" is hilarious 💀 Who does he pay for his utilities? Or does he have his own micro-grid?

    • @LuminousLead
      @LuminousLead 3 месяца назад +11

      Sounds like he has the same energy as Norton I., Emperor of the United States.

  • @kamikazejohnson7714
    @kamikazejohnson7714 3 месяца назад +271

    I’m starting to believe the legality of secession isn’t going to stop this from happening.

    • @GallowayJesse
      @GallowayJesse 3 месяца назад +10

      It's very legal and very much happening

    • @serraramayfield9230
      @serraramayfield9230 3 месяца назад +116

      @@GallowayJesse it isn't legal at all, SCOTUS has stated repeatedly that there is NO legal right to secede

    • @GallowayJesse
      @GallowayJesse 3 месяца назад +6

      @@serraramayfield9230 wrong

    • @kingbooomer9231
      @kingbooomer9231 3 месяца назад +65

      @@GallowayJesse proof?

    • @TheRenegade...
      @TheRenegade... 3 месяца назад

      Texas has already seceded by refusing to follow the supreme court

  • @connorgrimes8261
    @connorgrimes8261 12 дней назад

    Well. "A house divided can not stand"

  • @BenjaminG90
    @BenjaminG90 2 месяца назад +1

    Don’t need a constitutional provision to secede. Texas just needs to send a letter. See, the declaration of independence.

    • @Anvilman
      @Anvilman 2 месяца назад

      How did that work out for Texas last time they tried it?

    • @BenjaminG90
      @BenjaminG90 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Anvilman didn’t say it would work out. Just commenting that it can be done. We have a natural right to throw off a tyrannical government. I’m not even saying we’re to the point of needing to secede.