Galadriel: Ambition VS Wisdom - Tolkien Lore Video
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2020
- Time for something a little different! In this video we'll take a look at the character of Galadriel, and try to untangle exactly who she is, how she came to be that way, and who she was when she was before that. Galadriel has one of my favourite character arcs in the entire Legendarium, and yet we don't get to see it unless we've read the Silmarillion.
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I should point out - Galadriel first came into Tolkien's imagination while he was writing the Lord of the Rings in the 1950s, and it was only later that he retroactively inserted her into his Silmarillion writings.Thus Galadriel's story in the First Age is given in quite a few different, inconsistent, and (in some cases) contradictory accounts; so there's very little that can be said about her with certainty until she shows up in the Lord of the Rings. I probably should have mentioned that in this video.
All of that only makes her story even more believable and so much more like actual history because so many of the movers and shakers in history have portions of what we are able to reconstruct of their pasts filled with contradictory accounts of events, motivations, etc. History is, as has been pointed out many times, written by the victors and no history is without errors and inconsistencies. It is all someone's personal account marred and deformed by their personal opinion. So all of those inconsistencies simply make her story quite similar to our own world.
You said she was the only female to go with Feanor. But I remember you mentioning a wife dying crossing the Grinding Ice. Or is the distinction that she went with Feanor while the other women who came were part of the other brothers' groups?
@@christophermire3872 yeah that's right. Galadriel went with Feanor at first, and then joined Fingolfin's host. All the other women of the Noldor went with Fingolfin from the start.
Ambition vs Wisdom?
An impossible faceoff. One will always choose their ambition. Her ambition was simply to live peacefully.
@@FreedomAndPeaceOnly says you. not everyone is a slave to their emotions, atleast not in fiction.
One of my favourite bits in the films is the private discussion between Gimli and Legolas about Lothlorien on the boat and when Gimli said "she gave me three". All he thought was that she gave a couple more because she was nice. Legolas sadly and quietly smiled. He knew the significance and Gimli had absolutely no understanding why. That's probably part of the reason she gave him them in the first place. He had no real idea about the value of them. He was just humble enough to ask. The only other members of the Fellowship that would understand the significance would be Gandalf and Aragorn.
I love, looove that little smile she gives in the movie before getting on the ship. There is so much said in that one gesture.
Cate Blanchett is the mightiest and fairest of all the humans that remain in Middle-earth.
It’s like she’s so happy to be going home
@@KeytarArgonian Its brilliantly poetical. She left to learn, understand and grow as a character (which she did). Once matured she realised that place she really wanted to be was home.
It was a chance happening that allowed her to get the second opportunity to go home.
It seems the older the Elves, the more sad, the more bored with weariness, and the more wise they were. Were they not the race that said men had the gift of mortality? I think they really meant it when calling it a gift. The elves were the closest to perfection, while surrounded by the deteriation and corruption of everything else. They were created to live in a perfect world, but thanks to Melkor, were left to endure the corruption surrounding them while in immortality. Morgoth delighted in the elve's misery.
Its appropriate to me that Galadriel was part teleri, because she always seemed like a swan. Bold and proud and beautiful and dangerous. I think Tolkien often uses birds as models for his characters.
They were both Noldor, born in Aman.
They were both very mighty and intelligent (the mightiest of their kind).
They both participated in the rebellion of the Noldor.
They both wanted to see Middle Earth no matter what.
They were both extremelly proud and refused to be pardoned.
They both were ambitious and had a desire to rule their own realm.
They both threw out of their home a Dark Lord because they understood his true nature.
For shiny jewels, Feanor made a terrible oath, rebelled against the Valar, slayed his own kin, stole their ships and then burned them, betraying those who had followed him.
When a shiny jewel came to Galadriel, she refused it, because it was the right thing to do, because otherwise it would have turned her into a tyrant, even thoughwith it she could have everything she ever dreamed, she could be queen of Middle Earth, she could defeat the one who killed her beloved brother, she could be sure that Middle Earth would not plunge into Darkness, she could restore the might of the Eldar and prevent the Dominion of Men and the fading of the Elves.
At the end, in Tolkien's works is all about choice. Feanor and Galadriel were very similar, but they made very different choices and that mattered the most. Gandalf says in the Two Towers that he is Saruman as he should have been. I believe, Galadriel is Feanor as he should have been. Mighty, intelligent, proud, ambitious but fair and wise.
I want to say that this is by far the best Tolkien channel on RUclips. Better than Broken Sword, Nerd of the Rings, Men of the West...all of them. This is absolutely the best.
Thanks so much. I'm really glad you enjoy the channel 😊
The Red Book is the only one that even comes close and it is just as underappreciated as this one
@@samhobbs9116 The Red Book amd Tolkein Untangled are by far the best. They both analyze and dissect the why's and the how's of Tolkein lore. Most channels focus on the what and when. Dave here is by far the best at story telling.
Its so true.. I noticed this after only a couple videos. You disect the specific dynamics and relations of each story and character perfectly. Always emphasizing why things are so amazing, relating it to some little detail 7 thousand years later... your enthusiasm captivates us all and gets us intrigued in characters or story lines we had brushed off or over looked. Literally the best tolkien channel, no question. And yet less known than, Nerd of the rings? And men of the west? Doesn't reflect quality, keep going sir
Try Girl Next Gondor as well. Really good analyses.
7000 years of age.... and she dared deny Feanor, that itself shows how brave she was on her own
If I remember right, In the Lord of the Rings Galadriel makes a couple of remarks that show she still had to seriously conflict with her ambition. She does say that "her heart has greatly desired this" and principally (if my memory serves) she even remarks that once she knew about the Ring's travels with Frodo she actually contemplated taking the Ring by force. It seems that she thoroughly rejected this idea but kept it in the back of her mind. I think it wasn't until she was faced with Frodo's willing gift did she fully comprehend the danger of the Ring. Obviously, she already knew the danger, but knowing something and fully comprehending it in your heart are two different things. I find that this great desire for the Ring and its power makes her refusal of it even more special.
I think a video expanding upon Gimli's gift from Galadriel would be excellent. I can't help but always chuckle at the film version; I know better, but I can see how a Tolkien newbie would think, "that's a little creepy and weird"...lol. But it really is so pure and touching when you read it in the book. The story about Feanor was new to me, and adds even more dimension to that whole "story of Galadriel's hair"
This video perfectly explains my fears with the Rings of Power series. They're going to completely dissolve her wisdom and character arc, if the trailers are any indication. I hope not, but she's one of my favorite characters just the way she's written.
The Amazon series will portray a Galadriel who changes throughout the episodes till becoming the Galadriel of the LOTR
@@potita24 I wish you were right but everything that has come out so far doesn't show that at all. Her trajectory is completely different than the books.
@@sethmoldenhauer6403 because this is the first season only. There are five!
@@potita24 irrelevant. If you destroy her character in season 1, season 5 doesn't matter.
The Amazon revisioners (writers/ directors/ producers) seem to think they can make an improved, adapted story, but they are way out of (below) JRRT's league. In their attempt to make Galadriel 'stronger' by making her a warrior and cramming/limiting her into a role that conforms to modern sensibilities, they (have so far, I think) given us a rather weaker and less interesting character than JRRT's Galadriel.
JRRT's Galadriel is nearing 3,500 years old by the time the Rings of Power are forged (or more than 4,500 yrs old by the time Ar-Pharazon takes the scepter of Numenor). She's been around since before the Sun and Moon came into being, has traveled very far and wide, and known many of the greats among Elves and Men over three Ages, things that Amazon's Galadriel does not seem to have in her experience since 'Rings of Power' has rather brutally truncated time, geography, and long years of fascinating plot and character development that we have with JRRT's Middle Earth. Fair enough that Amazon does have not explicit rights to work with all the great material on Galadriel found in the Silmarillion and especially Unfinished Tales, and maybe this puts their project at a disadvantage?
I hope you (Hellen) are right about possible character development through the upcoming seasons, but seeing how our capacity for good story and myth telling has degraded so much recent years, I fear your (Seth's) concerns may come to pass. I hope we are wrong about that, but it would take an extraordinary course correction and transformation of the Amazon vision to redeem this re-telling.
I think Valinor is more analogous to Faerie, not Heaven. I'd identify Heaven with the Timeless Halls, or the Arda unmarried of the future. Also I believe Galadriel was waging some kind of continental level psychic struggle with Sauron, so she's mighty in that way, too.
I don't know man. Rainbow Dave sure sounds a lot like Dave of many colors! lol. Just found your channel and have been really enjoying it.
I wish we had politicians today who could pass the "ultimate test". Dragon sickness.....I blame it all on dragon sickness.
I'm subscribed to numerous Tolkien channels, yours is one of the best. This channel deserves a lot more attention, for sure. Thank you for giving us all your hard work.
Given Galdriel's hair had caught in it the light of the Two Trees, I wonder whether Varda could have recalled life to the Trees via strands of Galadriel's hair. I wonder whether this was even a thought. Surely Galadriel would have given her whole head of hair if necessary. I mean, light is light, right?
That's a really good point! 🤔
I’m spending the whole Friday night with you Rainbow Dave! You’re a fantastic Tolkien scholar!
6:41 I never understood fully the significance of the gift to Gimli. But by the smile that Legolas has, I assume HE knows his elven history.
Complete Trust!
“She’s no warrior. She doesn’t fight in the second age”. Tell that to the ROP’s writers 🤣
It doesn't matter. It made up for her doing stuff all in the lord of the rings. Why didn't she do more to help if she was so powerful? Answer, because she did more than her share as a warrior in the 2nd age. I loved this interpretation of her. It made her one of my favourite elves. She was a total legend! So what exactly is your problem?
I especially enjoyed the scene where she nearly passes over to the west, but then she jumps overboard into open sea at the last minute. She just can't bring herself to leave behind middle earth until she's absolutely convinced Sauron is gone for good.
In fact, I wouldn't bother watching this video if it wasn't for the rings of power
According to Amazon Galadriel was a warrior who slew tons of orc's, wore full body armor, wielded a huge sword while being a commander of an army leading forces into battles. 🤣
Doesn't seem too likely, does it?
Theyre sexist.
To be completely honest, that seems to me the only part of Amazon's Galadriel that feels remotely similar to what Tolkien wrote.
Commander of the "Northern Armies", too
And she keeps threatening to kill people even the ones who she acknowledges have saved her life like Elendil. The channel “Despot of Antrim” has an illuminating video whether Amazon’s Galadriel is a psychopath. He has quite a bit of evidence to back up his conclusions. The one that is probably the absolute worst is when she discovers Halbrand is Sauron, he yells at her that Sauron is back only because of her actions (true), then he leaves, she threatens to kill Elrond, and tells her elf friends that Halbrand is gone. That’s all. She could have told the others, she could have stopped him, they all might have been able to stop him, he is going to inflict massive evil and death and destruction and she says nothing.
my god dave, that video made me tear up a couple of times.
you are doing an AMAZIING work. thank you so much.
"Ambition vs Wisdom" ~ excellent, insightful way to explain the development of one of JRRT's most remarkable characters. I've not yet looked again into the lore (the dating & placing) on this, but even as part of Galadriel's First Age experience included being 'tutored' by Melian, would it also not have included knowing Thingol, Luthien, and meeting Beren, Turin, and others - in general, having a front seat to these characters, their tragedies, victories, wisdom, folly, etc.?
Galadriel has always been the elf that I've felt akin to. (Virgo in the house!!)
One thing that I found so incredible as I grew & delved deeper into legendarium is the significance of the gifting of not one, but three strands of her hair to Gimli.
She's truly one of the wisest of the wise in Middle Earth, and while she had the ambition, like you said her wisdom always was always present. Even before her reign in wisdom in Middle Earth she was able to see in her wisdom. Refusing Fëanor three times, she saw his greed and overcoming lust for power. In Gimli she saw beauty, and true worth of what she refused her own kin. Honor and desire for beautiful realms in Middle Earth, thus leaving a presence of the elves and the remaining beauty her time replicating the Undying Lands in Middle Earth. Not just with her gifting the three strands to Gimli, but in her gifting of the earth of Lothlorién as well as a seed of the malorn tree.
Shortly after the video started... My eyes filled with tears. I love Galadriel. 💚
Absolutely loved this video. You succinctly captured the whole character of Galadriel despite Tolkien’s multiple changes and revisions. I think you got it 100%. Love it.
It seems like Amazon’s portrayal is all wrong. In the trailer for the show, Galadriel is wearing armor and uses a sword. I like Tolkien’s work the way he wrote it. 😳
I quite like the rings of power series but I will acknoledge is it quite a departure from the source material. she'll likely end up the same way but the direction she takes to quite there is going to be quite different.
This is the final video on this channel for me to watch/catch up on. I have had an amazing few weeks listening to all of these playlists. The way you tell the story and make sure we know where everyone is and what they are doing at all times is so amazing. Keep it up my groovy brother.
Thanks so much, I'm really glad you've enjoyed the channel!
@@tolkienuntangled So underappreciated as a channel I wish you all the success
I actually had the chance to explain (at least part of) this to a coworker recently. He's been tempted to watch the new show and in conversations about it I have happened to reveal my own deep well of Tolkien knowledge (which has been bolstered and expanded by you and this channel). And honestly, the one downside is trying to concisely sum up several millennia of character history into a succinct description that a casual fan can easily digest.
No wonder Tolkien fans hated the rings of power. That Galadriel is so different from this one. I guess Amazon writers channeled Galadriel's overpowering ambition to rule a kingdom into overwhelming desire to avenge her brother's death at the hands of Sauron.
The Nenya ring from the movies looks a lot nicer than the Rings of Power version. Ten times nicer.
Im glad to see this is the development plan for this channel (assumingly)
Do the background before the characters. I really benefitted from seeing your Silmarils videos before this one for context.
For example - if you did Aragorn eventually, videos about the Dúnedain before hand would be beneficial etc.
As a fan of the property but troubles reading lengthy texts, your videos have been super entertaing and beneficial for me - thank you and keep up the good work!
Edit: When are you launching a Patreon?
Thanks, I'm really glad you enjoyed1 I'm not sure about Patreon. I really want to keep making these videos, and Patreon does seem to be the practical way to do that, but I want to make sure I have some really worthwhile content before I start asking for patrons.
@@tolkienuntangled Well you'll be getting my pledge when rrady 😊
@@Mcleody9 That's so lovely of you! Thanks very much!
*Galadriel, welcoming Celeborn to Valinor*
"Now... yes I know, but you have to imagine it with the light of the Two Trees... Think: my hair, plus the sun and the moon, and the Silmarils... which I guess you haven't seen either. Okay, well, it used to be great, okay? Just trust me on this."
Galadriel has one of the most interesting backstories in the Legendarium, maybe even more so due to Tolkien's own uncertainty of what type of person she would be.
As an aside, could you start including your Sindarin/Quenya/etc. lines in the description? It would be cool to see how they're spelled and what they translate to.
The Quenya is "alatulya meldonyar ar hara mariessë'' which translates as 'welcome my friends and live well in happiness.' The Sindarin is "mae g'ovannen mellyn nin a meneg suilaid", and that means 'well met my friends and a thousand greetings.'
@@tolkienuntangled Awesome, thanks a lot.
love it, thank you for making this video. love the character Lady Galadriel.
Love it! Thank you very much for the video!
ohh yes!! it`s here!!! finally Lady Galadriel`s video
I remember reading that JRRT said that the only elf that, perhaps, could equal Feanor in craft was Galadriel. If you think about it, she is the only other elf to capture light in crystal. The Phial of Galadriel was her creation. So also was the staff of Gandalf the White. She taught Arwen secrets of craft and Arwen wrought many things for Aragorn. There is some ambiguity about the Elf Stone... some say the original one that Celebrimbor made was lost and so Galadriel crafted another. Then, there were other things - the swan boats she gave to the fellowship, the Elven rope, the sheathe she made for Anduril, the reforged Narsil which was hallowed somehow so that none but Aragorn could touch it and the blade would never dull or dirty while sheathed. Somehow she could instill/imbibe power into the grains of dirt and the Mallorn seed she gave Sam. Who do you think made those Elven cloaks the fellowship wore? ... and the bow she gave to Legolas with a range much greater than any other bow in existence at that time... and, of course, the Lembas you mentioned. Galadriel is MY favorite elf partly because even with a talent for craft equal (perhaps) to Feanor, she never began to "worship" the works of her hands more than life itself. Everything she made was for protection/wisdom. I'm really surprised, Rainbow Dave, that you didn't mention this aspect of Galadriel. You do such an excellent job with all the content you upload. I often wonder what else Galadriel crafted... and especially as a result of her long tutelage with Melian, I'd imagine that if she wanted to she could have surpassed Feanor... but she chose not to because no man, elf, dwarf, hobbit, or any other creature, should wield THAT much power. Now THAT is wisdom.
Your positivity is infectious and inspiring. Thanks for making such great videos!
Your channel is truly a treasure. Immeasurably so!
I finally caught up! Yahoo! I hope you can also do some of the great tales.. More power to your channel 🌈 dave!🙂
More to come!
Great vid. Thanks
Nice work dude
Thanks!
Best Tolkien channel!
Thanks!
I suppose Galadriels refusal to take the one ring means she passed the final test (vs Ambition) with flying colours (I'll learn to watch the whole video before commenting)
She doubtlessly had Feanor in mind when she gave Gimli three strands of her hair, trolling her dead uncle.
This guy's the best.
It is an error to think Galadriel was idle in the first age wars merely because she did not take part in any of the battles or deeds of renown the Noldor accounted. Far from idleness, she spent those many years in Menegroth studying the arts of Melian, the most powerful being in all Middle Earth. She learned power and, “magic”, and acquired much of her wisdom in that tutorship. There is a close parallel between the Girdle of Melian and the power with which Galadriel nurtured and protected Lorien. Granted her ring surely helped focus and amplified that power, but it’s source had to have originated in that which had been rooted in, and grown from that knowledge taught to her during those long years in Doriath.
Amended: I would say Melian was the most powerful other than Morgoth.
I thought the movie handled her conflict more powerfully than the book. I got more of the sense of her peril and her triumph in the movie.
Morfydd Clark from rings of power will always be Galadriel to me now. That other actor you show her as - Cate Blanchett - was in the lord of the ring movie too briefly.
Thank you for this story. I Recently discovered your videos and have been going through them. Thank you so much.
However, whenever you mention Galadriel, it is said that she is the only Noldor woman to journey to Middle Earth. That is not correct. What about Aredhel Ar Feiniel, the white lady of Gondolin? Daughter of Fingolfin? The Sister of Fingon and Turgon. Mother of Meaglin. Aredhel's birth is no less noble than Galadriel's, perhaps even higher in standing for being born to Fingolfin, the second son of Finwe, high king in Baleriand.
Were Aredhel insignificant to the story of the first age, I would understand you not mentioning her. But she is rather important. She is the mother of Meaglin, who later betrays Gondolin and causes its downfall.
I mean not to compare these two awesome ladies, or imply that Galadriel is less special. It just seems odd to me that Aredhel is complete ignored in your videos.
Thank you. And keep up the good work.
Glad you enjoy the channel! I said that Galadriel was the only woman of the Noldor to follow Feanor. All the other women like Aredhel and Elenwë follow Fingolfin, and meet up with Fëanor's host later. Of course, by that point Galadriel is thoroughly done with Feanor, and so she does then join Fingolfin's group and travel with them to Middle-Earth.
As I work through the Silmarillion I'll do a whole series of videos about the rise and fall of Gondolin, and I'll do a whole video about Aredhel and her relationship with Eol and Maiglin. I can't wait to get to that, but pretty much everything Aredhel does is somehow related to the city of Gondolin, so I'll save her for when I get to it.
I'm not crying - you're crying!
Guess Payne and McKay missed this video 😶
I thought she crossed the grinding ice with Fingolfin.
Do you think if Féanor would have survived up until the third age, he could have crafted something that could negated the ring of power? Or fingoulfin, perhaps could have taken on Sauron?
I like to think Galadriel fought a few other times after the First Kinslaying, just because there are several other times where she could have easily done so. One obvious example is the Battle of Lammoth, and, of course, according to Christopher Tolkien, she was probably present at the Fall of Doriath (he even speculated in the Unfinished Tales, I think, that she and Celeborn helped Elwing). I think it makes Galadriel an even cooler character because she was the wisest (or one of the wisest) of all the Elves, yet also one of the few female warriors among them. Frankly, I wish Tolkien had finished his work on her, as she probably would have been one of the coolest characters in the Silmarillion and still rather is.
Note: I do not support what they have done with her in The Rings of Power that was clearly contrary to Tolkien's designs.
I feel like saying she was not the Queen of Lothlorien, but rather just "The Lady of the Golden Wood" is a distinction without a difference.
She lived in the central "palace". She directed the armed forces. She made foreign policy decisions on behalf of the residents. When intruders are found, they are brought to her.
She was the Queen for all intents and purposes. To insist on not being called a ruler while acting like a ruler is.... I'm not entirely sure what to call it, but it seems disingenuous.
That's fair enough, although I would point out that the distinction between a king and a king in all but name is very significant in other parts of Middle-earth. The ruling stewards of Gondor are king in all but name, and yet we're very explicitly reminded that they aren't truly kings. I guess it's kind of the same with the Chieftains of the North Kingdom. Although of course in the case of the Dunedain, the stewards are ruling in the hope that a king will one day return, whereas there's no reason to believe that Lothlorien will ever return to the days of its king; so I'd agree that it's a more arbitrary distinction in Galadriel' case.
If anyone could be called the king of Lothlorien it would be Celeborn. When the members of the fellowship appear before Celeborn and Galadriel it is Celeborn who first addresses them and in general Galadriel defers to him. Galadriel says of him: " For the Lord of the Galadhrim is accounted the wisest of the Elves of Middle-Earth, and giver of the gifts beyond the power of kings".
When it's said that Galadriel is the mightiest and the fairest elf in middle earth. Does it mean, at that time? Or ever?
What about Fingolfin? Finrod? Or even Luthien? Or do they not count because they are dead?
It means at that time. Every other elf who is supposedly more powerful than her (there are few, the only ones I could think of are fingolfin, feanor, luthien etc.) are all dead at that point.
My honor to you for an even-handed and cogent explanation of The Lady of the Golden Wood, recently so much stupidity has been placed in her hands by people that do not care what Tolkien wrote.
I love Galadriel if only the rings of power did her justice
Surely other lady's of the noldor travelled to Middle earth otherwise the population would have died out long before the 1st age ended.
Yeah there were certainly a few who went with Fingolfin, including his daughter Aredhel and his daughter in law Elenwë, but Galadriel was the only woman who originally left with Fëanor's host.
Gimli's courtly love and Galadriel' s knight.
This aged well
I thought she had yet to make it to the port when the first kin slaying occurred, which is why she didn't take a ship to middle earth, and had to take the Hellcaraxe?
Galadriel was no warrior? Better not let Amazon know that ;)
In all fairness, I agree they wrote her out of character, but there are many aspects of Galadriel's history that are missing that Tolkien never finished, so I think it is fairly consistent with what Tolkien wrote to make her fight later on in cases of necessity.
Damn, if only the Show Runners/writers of Rings of Power watched this video first… they would have ignored it 😂
Next dark lord
I prefer the version of galadriel in the rings of power compared to tolkeins version as described here. She's supposed to be wise, powerful and good, but she hardly does anything to fight sauron, apart from helping gandalf clear him out of dul caldur. This inactivity strikes me not as wise or compassionate, but cowardly and cold to all the suffering out in the world. And I like galadriel in the rings of power a great deal better than the insipid and indifferent cate blanchett. Rop's galadriel wouldve offered to go with the fellowship or ridden into battle at minas tirith. If there's great evil in the world and youve got the power to make a difference, you dont go hiding away in the forest, you get off your lazy backside and do something about it. Tolkeins galadriel strikes me as weak.
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Amazon went ahead wrote her character as just full of ambition, or as they say full of piss and vinegar, without an ounce of wisdom. They absolutely destroyed her character.
What are you saying in elvish?
Alatulya meldonyar, ar hara mariessë. It's Quenya for 'welcome my friends, and live well in happiness.'
Thanks I appreciate you and your videos. I can't put my finger on it but your channel hits different the other LORT channels.
@@spencerharmon681 thank you! I'm really glad you enjoy the channel!
11:16 I think you're making some pretty broad assumptions here. Tolkien does not describe her as fighting in all that time, but then he only tells a tiny sliver of a tiny part of the events, especially of the Second Age. We do not know what Galadriel was up to during that time, in part because Tolkien had not made up his mind about her life and history. For example--when and (more importantly) did she meet Celeborn? I for one hope he would never have made Celeborn a native of Valinor, as he was thinking of doing. I adore the notion that this brilliant, proud, accomplished Elf who had been born under the Light of the Trees found a love, a partner forever, among the Dark Elves. Because one does not have to have seen the Light of the Trees to be brilliant, accomplished, and wise. Just as seeing that Light is not in and of itself enough to convey brilliance, or wisdom (looking at you Feanor). So, for all we know, Galadriel fought in the War of Wrath, might have taken part in all kinds of fighting in the Second Age, etc.
Beautiful * ( ⓛ ﻌ ⓛ *) Thank you
Gimli was give three times what Feanor was refused no less than three times.
Not that a strand of hair is a big deal but it's ironic nonetheless.
Not a big deal? You need to watch the video again. Galadriel's hair is a VERY big deal.
@@feanordidnothingwrong I watched the video juat fine (apart from reading over both LoTR and Silmarillion multiple times over).
Exactly what will Gimli even do with those 3 hairs? The whole captured the light of Laurelin and Teleprion was just a figure of speech and neither is Gimli a Feanor.
Though I think ROP goes overboard. Her power wasn't just in her wisdom and arts. Tolkien wrote that she was the physical equal of her brothers and male cousins. Even so, so wouldn't have been on the front lines given how elven culture treated its ladies, but she would have had plenty of opportunities unwritten about through the Ages where in dire need she may have donned armor and picked up bow and sword to defend herself and others.
I love that you highlight how important her mistakes are to her greatness. The current batch of SJW woke writers could learn something here.
Erm, the 'only' woman to march into war with Feanor?
Aren't you forgetting Ardanel? Galadriels only female cousin...
Aredhel didn't march with Feanor. She followed her father Fingolfin in the second host.
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You are completly wrong. She was the general of the armies of the north. She had a storm on her and no manners whatsoever.
She was the definition of obnoxious in the Quenya dictionary. A 6k years being with the sould of a teenager. And she had an on/off with Sauron. But hey she was a widow after all !!.
I'm not a big fan of hers tbh