We really are living in the Golden age of Tolkien fan RUclips channels... there's so many fantastic, informative RUclipsrs that I cant even keep track who's who. Good stuff
Your passion for Tolkien's work has rekindled my own. I had previously only seen the movies and read LOTR and had no idea how extensive the lore truly is until I found your channel. Thank you for making these videos!
Clearly you didn't learn the Elvish script from the Appendices when you were a teenager in the 1980s. Personally, I hate the movies, both for the shallow popularity they granted my favorite work of fiction, and the poor treatment they gave it. Where is Tom Bombadil? Seriously? Suck it, Jackson, you never should have been given license to make this, your vision didn't nearly encompass Tolkein's.
@@JeffreyGoddin So let me get this straight, you're mad that Peter Jackson made an adaptation that could possibly appeal to anyone but the most hardcore of gatekeeping fanboys and instead made a series that allowed new generations of people to discover and fall in love with this thing you claim to care about? Get over yourself, please
A very insightful and plausible explanation of how Glamdring, Orcrist and Sting ended up in the troll hoard. Thanks! Those weapons also give insight into Elrond's generosity and foresight. When Gandalf, the dwarves and Bilbo showed him the blades, he could have legitimately claimed them as his property, being heirlooms of his great-grandfather's house. Elrond must have felt that the swords being picked up by Gandalf, Thorin and Bilbo meant that they were fated to wield them, so he didn't even mention his relation to Turgon (though I'm sure Gandalf knew about it and didn't mention it either). Thorin probably would have insisted on returning Orcrist to Elrond if he had known about its connection to Elrond's family since dwarves seem to be very punctilious about inheritance and property rights.
Maybe Gandalf didn't know at all. After all, he arrives to middle earth in the third age, an istari, a maiar with his memory erased, so he had to learn everything back. Otherwise why spend, him and also saruman, a lot of time in minas tirith library, to learn ancient lore from the second age? So it seems difficoult to me that he knows about blades from the first age, that he never sees with his wizard eye and that were forgotten by all but from the elves that saw them in action like Erlond himself.
I believe that if Glamdring had belonged to Elros, this would have been mentioned by Elrond. Because to him that would have been his brother's sword, rather than that of Turgon. The most plausible explanation is that it was taken by the ennemy during the fall of Gondolin, and then remained in the hands of orcs/goblins until the trolls acquired them somehow.
I love your idea of Glamdring, Orcrist and Sting ending up in Eriador through arriving at Numenor. I think it adds quite a bit more richness to their history and that they "stayed in the family" for a time, since Glamdring could have been wielded by Elrond's brother and his descendants.
If Dave is down to give it a shot, it would be awesome to see him take a crack at narrating a one-week bedtime story version of the legendarium for kids. He has a great narrating voice.
@@tolkienuntangled Speak first, ask questions later? 😎 Also I think the family would be stoked to have a fan-fiction telling for the kids. Maybe give it a shot my bro, it might be well-received. 🤗
I like that such an incredible artifact like Glamdring was lost to history and it is unknown how it ended up in the troll's cache. Not everything needs to be explained, and having mysteries is part of what makes the story so compelling.
Anglachel is definitely my favorite. It's almost as much a character as it is a weapon. For the whole duration of Turin's story, you just KNOW that that blade is going to get up to some s***. Its mere presence is a constant source of foreboding.
I really like your explanation for how Glamdring, Orcrist, and Sting wound up in the Trollshaws. I had always assumed they were raided from Gondolin by the invading orcs but them being rescued and sent to Numenor works much better. Another great video thanks Dave.
Agreed, that is the best theory for how Glamdring, Orcrist, & Sting ended up in the hands of Gandalf, Thorin, & Bilbo/Frodo I've yet heard. It's makes far more sense than any other theory I've seen.
Agreed, I think the Orcs were too scared of Glamdring & Orcrist to have plundered then from Gondolin. Trolls killing Dunedain Rangers for them makes more sense.
Back and forth from Numenor, Faithfull grab Turgon's and leave Thingol's sword? We know they at least made it over the Blue Mts after 1st age, knowing elvish weapons are only used by men & elves, who would have likely used it to cut all those knecks. I do not recall if swords ever had their names marked on them.
Like many I believe orcist was the weapon of ecthelion. If it was glorfindels, he'd want it back lol However they found themselves in the troll fells, glamdring and orcist played roles long after their forging
@@tombaker4998 The Faithful Numenorians may have also rescued Thingol's sword from Numenor before it was destroyed, but for whatever reason, the sword just didn't end up in the same troll hoard as the other three.
Becoming a Friday night, here that is, tradition. No Prancing Pony tonight, have an extra class for a hard working student tomorrow morning. Poor lad has worked so hard, but missed the first week of the term. Thanks for great content to look forward to, Sir of Many Colours!
I like Eol, those kind of characters that are virtuous but petty and jealous of their work, kinda remind me of Johannes Kepler. (I like it because it remind me that usually your worst enemy is yourself and that enemy is the most prone to hold you back) Also like tragic virtuous characters like Turin himself and in that version when Turin gives the final blow to Morgoth and finally kill the Dark Lord, to me, is like the Valar gave him the honor/chance to do that so he could have closure/vengeance against Morgoth for what he did to his Kin. Because that is what Morgoth did, took arguable the most virtuous man ever existing in middle earth and turn it to one of the most (if not the most) tragic stories in the Legendarioum. That makes Gurthang my favorite weapon. Excellent video! Cheers!
It’s not impossible that Aeglos was forged from the blade of Ringil… if it wasn’t buried with Fingolfin. It wouldn’t be the first blade of a fallen king reforged into a new weapon with a similar name and properties…
My favorite is Glamdring. I remember finding a secluded spot in our horse pasture and pretending to wield it while slaying imaginary orcs and balrogs. Such good memories lol. Great video Rainbow Dave!
This may be the first video of yours that I've seen, but I'm impressed. It was a well-thought-out and well-explained list, although Sting should've at least gotten an honorable mention!
I wonder why so many artists depict Gil Galad without his helmet? After all... "Gil-galad was an elven-king. Of him the harpers sadly sing; the last whose realm was fair and free between the Mountains and the Sea. His sword was long, his lance was keen. His shining helm afar was seen; the countless stars of heaven's field were mirrored in his silver shield. But long ago he rode away, and where he dwelleth none can say; for into darkness fell his star in Mordor where the shadows are. It seems bizarre that any warrior would go into battle without a helmet!
Your reverence for Tolkien's incredible world is clear. Given today's preference for the media and their willingness to ""modernize" his work is heartbreaking. I will not watch the new series. I find it despicable. Thanks for this excellent video.
So true. Your absolutely right. Merry is not just a brave little person as is his depiction in the films. Merry is the reason the Witch King falls. I gotta give Pippin some love too...
Nah, I hate this kind of revisionism. Merry and Sam were heroes. But so was Frodo. And Aragorn. And Gandalf. They all were. Frodo especially gets this weird rep where, despite literally saving the world, his body and mind being destroyed by the ring as a result, people don't want to give him credit. Sam never went through what Frodo had to go through so its really unfair to say that Sam was "the real hero" when it was Frodo and Sam together that succeeded.
@@GetterRay I agree with you, but usually the hero of the story gets a happy final act, where they are transformed by their journey to a new place of power/happiness/whatever. Frodo doesn't get the hero's ending -- the girl, the fame, the glory; Sam and Aragorn do. Feels to me like Frodo not getting the hero's ending is echoing Tolkien's experience in World War I. many WWI veterans came home disfigured and permanently broken, like Frodo did. I don't think many came home in glory.
To quote Frodo: "We set out to save the Shire, Sam. And we did. But not for me. That's how it often has to be when things are in danger. Someone has to lose it, to give it up, so that others may keep it." Frodo gave it all up for others. And that's why I don't like it when people don't want to give him credit.@@inimitableminimalist
I don't know if I would call Tuor underrated.... Lead his own House of Gondolin, father of Earendil/grandfather of Elros and Elrond, and you already explained his battle accomplishments. So yeah, probably less underrated and more one of the most important figures in Middle Earth's history.
Hey, 🌈 Dave! This was an interesting top ten. As usual, you add a lot of the rich backstory that make your videos so distinct, fun and fascinating. I love the Quenya (or is it Sindarin?) numbers under the English text as you count down. Maybe say them in Elvish for us once just for fun!!! It’d be interesting to hear. Whatever you think best, of course. This IS your “baby” after all! 😄 Have a marvelous weekend!!!
It's interesting that we never really hear of the sword that Feanor wielded, other than it was once used to threaten Fingolfin. Surely, though, it would have a magical weapon of great properties that he used in his great battle against the Balrogs of Morgoth. Feanor didn't live long enough in Middle Earth for it to become known, and I assume it never made it into the hands of Maedhros or any of his brothers as an heirloom.
I'd like to believe the spear was made from the sword, a reforge always seems to circle around the family storylines of revenge and redemption. Like Anduil.
I always felt that that very same sword actually was Ringil, which Fingolfin later took up both as a slight and a token to remember Feanor by. Though if I had to think of a sword for Feanor, I would think it should be named Naurë - Flame - to match its weirder fiery personality.
Considering it is the weapon that performs the single most important act in the signature story of the legendarium against Morgoth himself to obtain the greatest treasure a Man ever holds and which eventually allows the world to be saved, I really thought it would make this list. But it admittedly doesn’t get many mentions, which I imagine it’s the reason it was left off.
Wow, such a good video. I read the books a long time ago makes me wonder what I have missed or forgotten after watching the movies over and over again. Great job.
Sting - while truth is it was probably forged a fairly standard knife in the first age - but in the third age its deeds are great - even if those wielding it were not the greatest warriors - it was present a key point in downfall of Sauron and wounded / drove off Shelob!
I have subscribed and will like all of your videos. So hard to find good entertainment on RUclips and your channel is excellent with very high production values.
Great video, I loved all the reminders. Each weapon opened up so many little things I'd forgotten about and sometimes even charactors long gone in my head...I'm going back to these books, thank you indeed. As for any suggestions 🤔 How's abouts you try and give us... *Top 10 battle moments/skills *Top 10 dark moments? * Top 10 acts of deception? * Top 10 scary hidden creatures, such as Old Man Willow... But to be fair such list's would be fairly blimmin easy to make just stand alone. But the thought, detail and graphic you put in would make any of your Top 10 tens worth the watch, keep up the good work. I enjoyed that 👍🍻😎
Rainbow Dan, you are such a gifted storyteller. Your delivery is so fun and fresh that you made me love a video about ... weapons? Trust me, this not my thing at all. But as usual, the video was great both in terms of information and entertainment. I might actually watch it again ... how did you do that?
Great video man! probably my favorite weapon on all of Tolkiens World would be Anglachel/Gurthang the black blade, it´s the literal definition of a double edge sword linked to probably the darkest history and saddest character ever written by Tolkien and is one of the reasons why i love the Silmarillon a little bit more than LOTR, the histories just feel a bit darker and the characters more flawed, Spoiler for the Silmarillon below... I feel part of the malice that the blade has against Turin besides of Eols rage is the fact that Turin kills Beleg the Righteous owner of Anglachel/Gurthang with it by mistake, so want vengeance on Turin for it.
I love Aragorn’s Anduain Flane of the West. Remade from the blade that was broken Narsile. Sting was kinda cool the Blade glows blue when orcs are near.
my favorite of all the times is Ringil , i think that The Dragon-helm of Dor-lómin should be mentioned although it is not a weapon , a defense object but should at least have a honorable mention for just being awesome . and also hail Ecthelion's helmet for finally shutting down the king slayer :')
Great channel! I am just now finding this and watching a bunch of your previous videos. I liked your explanation of how Glamdring, Orcrist, and Sting ended up where they did. I guess they might have shared part of their fate with the weapons recovered from the barrow downs that the hobbits all used as well. One of which even helped defeat the chief Nazgul.
Gotta say that im biased to axes and hammers but the stories behind each weapon and those who bore them are amazing. Have you thought about having a discord server so people can get notified of uploads regularly (youtube doesn't notify about some of your uploads occasionally)
I wonder what happened to Aeglos. As a fan of spears, I always liked it very much. Hopefully someone in the third age still wielded it in the fight against Sauron.
Headcanon: The Black Arrow of Dale was a unique homing arrow forged by the dwarves of Erebor, imbued with dwarven craftsmanship and with special feathers in addition to dwarven magic, thus allowing the arrow to be influenced by the thoughts of whomever shot it, so the archer would speak their target, loose the bow, and let the arrow home in on said target. Effectively an arrow that never ever misses. The morgul blade was built with old and evil magic, so that upon stabbing someone, the blade would shatter and fragment, leaving a poisoning blade piece lodged in the victim. After some time the dagger would regenerate. This made the morgul blade a very powerful finisher in a duel. Most daggers were used to parry swords and the like, but the morgul blade, suggested by its reversed crossguard, is intended as a stab and run kind of weapon.
The black arrow that was in the Animated Hobbit was awesome looking…..I still remember seeing it for the first time an ABC Special back in the mid-70’s (one of the few times my brothers and I were allowed to stay up past our 8:00 bed time)
The breaking of the Morgul knife wasn't just an unhappy accident. Elrond says, "the purpose of the knife was to break off in the wound, leaving a shard in the victim's body." Terrifying. So presumably, a Morgul knife would be a weapon used only once, for assassination or to subdue (or skin alive?) a single target. I wonder if they keep several. Do their robes even have pockets?
It started with the forging of the great Films. The threads were given by Tolkien, immortal, wisest and fairest of all beings. The rights were granted to Jackson, the great mountain miner and craftsman of the mountain of lore .And nine, nine hours were given to the race of men, who above all else desire quality. But they were all of them deceived, for another show was made. In the Land of Amazon, in the fires of Mount Prime, the Dark Lord Bezos forged in secret a Master Flop. And in to this show he poured his money, his greed and his will to dominate every film. ONE SHOW TO RUIN THEM ALL. ⚔️
Do you think it would be the remnant effects of the morgul blade or simply the possession of the ring? Perhaps the professor was making a connection here. I have complex ptsd due to my time spent overseas in Afghanistan and I was injured there. For my first year or so at the naval hospital in San Diego, I experienced “phantom” like pains. Every time my anxiety spikes, my old injuries act up. I know the ring heavily influenced emotions/paranoia etc…The only thing that is strange to me is the anniversary aspect of it, almost as if it is clockwork. That’s the part that leads me to thinking it is a dark magic or will lingering in him.
I Really LOVE hearing this list of your TOP 10 WEAPONS along with the various, attached tales 💙 I’m rereading The Silmarillion as we speak…..THANKS DAVE! Excellent video as usual.
Aranruth definitely belongs on the list. Thingol's sword and the king sword of numenor. Not to mention that it will be at the end battle when morgoth returns.
This is all I could think of during that section. Stormbringer was pure evil, it killed Elric's wife and eventually killed him. The fact that it made weird singing/chanting noises when in battle as it consumed peoples souls just made it worse. A truly terrible weapon/entity.
Had to freeze frame for a momen at mark 9:00 to admire the complexity and horrible beauty PJ put into his depiction of "Grond" for The Return Of The King. Perfect!!! :)
Dude your knowledge of Tolkien is extremely impressive. I love watching your videos, but I wonder why you haven't been described as a Tolkien Scholar. If you have been, then I apologize.
Thanks very much! I'm really glad you enjoy the videos. I'd be honoured to be considered a Tolkien scholar, although I feel there are scholars and then there are Scholars. I'm a huge fan of Tolkien's, but I'm nowhere near as knowledgeable as the Tolkien Professors who have dedicated their academic careers to Tolkien's works.
The Black Arrow is my favorite weapon of Tolkien. It's depiction in the movie was a huge disappointment. but I understand that movie had major production problems.
The "aiglos" flower could be a snowdrop - reputed to be one of the first flowers to appear in the spring, often while there's still some snow on the ground.
Gorthanc had its own will but I would argue the one ring also had its own will. Tolkien claimed a being that was stronger than Sauron could master the ring. It's just that the cost is he would get corrupted by the ring. So I would argue the ring is also entirely sentient. Even if it couldn't "speak"
I enjoyed you speculation on Glamdring. I always pictured Glamdring and Orcrist as troll loot after the fall of Gondolin. I guessed the Orcs/Goblins would not have touched them but trolls apparently held no such fear. After the fall of Morgoth and his forces not destroyed were scattered. It held in my mind that trolls which have a natural tendency to gather and horde would have escaped to the east with what loot they could have carried from Angband. The life span of trolls is not addressed to my knowledge so whether they escaped as a band from the fall of Angband or whether they acquired them by some other means was always interesting mystery to me.
It pleases me to know that the 1977 RankinBass animated Hobbit movie got the Thrush talking to Bard correct, and that what he said of the Black Arrow after the Thrush told him of the missing scale upon Smaug's breast was almost word for word identical to what he said in the book. It's been more than 20 years since I read The Hobbit so I honestly remember very little of it because I was less than 10 years old so I didn't really comprehend most of it lol
Glamdring had a short sword "twin" if you will that was made together as a set. The blade was later to be called "Sting." Frodo is the current owner of Sting.
@13:17: actually, we do know there is only one morgul blade, it is stated very clearly in the lord of the rings movies that it was specifically forged for the witch king of angmar. or however you spell it.
With regard to the Morgul Blade: there is a similar item in Englush folklore involving "elfshot" - This weapon (typically an arrow), said to be wielded by faeries, works in the same manner. One who has been elfshot is generally doomed, for the barbed point wriggles its way through the body until it reaches the heart. Rather than being a "nefarious" tool like, say, poison, it was typically used to illustrate the peerless hunting abilities of the fae - that any shot that landed would be lethal. I knew about elfshot before reading the Lord of the Rings, and I always wondered why he assigned it to the Nine. It always seemed like a tool more fitting for the elves of Mirkwood. As I learned more about British sensibility in Tolkien's day, I've come to suspect he may have found the notion "unsporting," and more fitted to the insidious minions of the Dark Lord.
Great list. I found it quite fascinating. My fiancé will definitely love this list. He loves learning about weapons and their history. Keep up the awesome work.
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The apple Sam throws at Bill Ferny in Bree deserves an honourable mentioning! 🍎
Can't argue with that logic.
And Ecthelion's spiked helmet.
The Frying pan
Nice book reference
An apple a day keeps Bill Ferny away!
We really are living in the Golden age of Tolkien fan RUclips channels... there's so many fantastic, informative RUclipsrs that I cant even keep track who's who. Good stuff
Your passion for Tolkien's work has rekindled my own. I had previously only seen the movies and read LOTR and had no idea how extensive the lore truly is until I found your channel. Thank you for making these videos!
I concur.
Clearly you didn't learn the Elvish script from the Appendices when you were a teenager in the 1980s. Personally, I hate the movies, both for the shallow popularity they granted my favorite work of fiction, and the poor treatment they gave it. Where is Tom Bombadil? Seriously? Suck it, Jackson, you never should have been given license to make this, your vision didn't nearly encompass Tolkein's.
The amount of writing Tolkian did is absolutely dizzying. He created entire languages.
@@JeffreyGoddin Shut up Jeff let people enjoy what they enjoy, who cares you read Elvish in the 80s do you want a sticker?
@@JeffreyGoddin So let me get this straight, you're mad that Peter Jackson made an adaptation that could possibly appeal to anyone but the most hardcore of gatekeeping fanboys and instead made a series that allowed new generations of people to discover and fall in love with this thing you claim to care about? Get over yourself, please
"The Children of Húrin is the least childfriendly book in the legendarium"
Facts gonna be facts, people
A very insightful and plausible explanation of how Glamdring, Orcrist and Sting ended up in the troll hoard. Thanks! Those weapons also give insight into Elrond's generosity and foresight. When Gandalf, the dwarves and Bilbo showed him the blades, he could have legitimately claimed them as his property, being heirlooms of his great-grandfather's house. Elrond must have felt that the swords being picked up by Gandalf, Thorin and Bilbo meant that they were fated to wield them, so he didn't even mention his relation to Turgon (though I'm sure Gandalf knew about it and didn't mention it either). Thorin probably would have insisted on returning Orcrist to Elrond if he had known about its connection to Elrond's family since dwarves seem to be very punctilious about inheritance and property rights.
Maybe Gandalf didn't know at all. After all, he arrives to middle earth in the third age, an istari, a maiar with his memory erased, so he had to learn everything back. Otherwise why spend, him and also saruman, a lot of time in minas tirith library, to learn ancient lore from the second age? So it seems difficoult to me that he knows about blades from the first age, that he never sees with his wizard eye and that were forgotten by all but from the elves that saw them in action like Erlond himself.
@@Rankidu Pretty sure Gandalf tells them which is which. Could be wrong though.
I believe that if Glamdring had belonged to Elros, this would have been mentioned by Elrond. Because to him that would have been his brother's sword, rather than that of Turgon. The most plausible explanation is that it was taken by the ennemy during the fall of Gondolin, and then remained in the hands of orcs/goblins until the trolls acquired them somehow.
I love this guy’s positive vibes.
I love your idea of Glamdring, Orcrist and Sting ending up in Eriador through arriving at Numenor. I think it adds quite a bit more richness to their history and that they "stayed in the family" for a time, since Glamdring could have been wielded by Elrond's brother and his descendants.
What about Sam’s frying pan? It’s so multipurpose!
Bonk, Concusser of Orcs
@@valentinblue1952you know that frying pan is heavy af too
We all know Sam’s frying pan is the most OP weapon in the entire legendarium lol 😆
Just came back from 8 hours at the ER, this video was a very pleasant surprise to relax before sleep. Thank you!
If Dave is down to give it a shot, it would be awesome to see him take a crack at narrating a one-week bedtime story version of the legendarium for kids. He has a great narrating voice.
@@technodrome I’d definitely listen to that.
Thanks! That would be a lot of fun, but I don't know how it would work legally with copyright.
@@tolkienuntangled Speak first, ask questions later? 😎
Also I think the family would be stoked to have a fan-fiction telling for the kids. Maybe give it a shot my bro, it might be well-received. 🤗
I like that such an incredible artifact like Glamdring was lost to history and it is unknown how it ended up in the troll's cache. Not everything needs to be explained, and having mysteries is part of what makes the story so compelling.
I would put Sting as an honorable mention for being the sidearm of two of the most important ring bearers & killing the descendants of Ungoliant
My thought exactly! I was SURE this blade would make the list!
@@josephdriesse1157 It should have been number 1 from a Hobbits point of view it was a great and very important weapon.
Anglachel is definitely my favorite. It's almost as much a character as it is a weapon. For the whole duration of Turin's story, you just KNOW that that blade is going to get up to some s***. Its mere presence is a constant source of foreboding.
It's the only weapon that has a voice unless you include the One Ring. Hail Gurthang; Iron of Death~!
I really like your explanation for how Glamdring, Orcrist, and Sting wound up in the Trollshaws.
I had always assumed they were raided from Gondolin by the invading orcs but them being rescued and sent to Numenor works much better.
Another great video thanks Dave.
Agreed, that is the best theory for how Glamdring, Orcrist, & Sting ended up in the hands of Gandalf, Thorin, & Bilbo/Frodo I've yet heard. It's makes far more sense than any other theory I've seen.
Agreed, I think the Orcs were too scared of Glamdring & Orcrist to have plundered then from Gondolin. Trolls killing Dunedain Rangers for them makes more sense.
Back and forth from Numenor, Faithfull grab Turgon's and leave Thingol's sword? We know they at least made it over the Blue Mts after 1st age, knowing elvish weapons are only used by men & elves, who would have likely used it to cut all those knecks. I do not recall if swords ever had their names marked on them.
Like many I believe orcist was the weapon of ecthelion.
If it was glorfindels, he'd want it back lol
However they found themselves in the troll fells, glamdring and orcist played roles long after their forging
@@tombaker4998 The Faithful Numenorians may have also rescued Thingol's sword from Numenor before it was destroyed, but for whatever reason, the sword just didn't end up in the same troll hoard as the other three.
Becoming a Friday night, here that is, tradition. No Prancing Pony tonight, have an extra class for a hard working student tomorrow morning. Poor lad has worked so hard, but missed the first week of the term.
Thanks for great content to look forward to, Sir of Many Colours!
Also, I would like to say how much a breath of fresh air this channel is. Dave of many colors, you are unique and an excellent teacher of Tolkien.
This channel has really good production value. You deserve to be a lot bigger!
I like Eol, those kind of characters that are virtuous but petty and jealous of their work, kinda remind me of Johannes Kepler. (I like it because it remind me that usually your worst enemy is yourself and that enemy is the most prone to hold you back)
Also like tragic virtuous characters like Turin himself and in that version when Turin gives the final blow to Morgoth and finally kill the Dark Lord, to me, is like the Valar gave him the honor/chance to do that so he could have closure/vengeance against Morgoth for what he did to his Kin. Because that is what Morgoth did, took arguable the most virtuous man ever existing in middle earth and turn it to one of the most (if not the most) tragic stories in the Legendarioum.
That makes Gurthang my favorite weapon.
Excellent video!
Cheers!
it is indeed the most tragic story in the Legendarioum
It’s not impossible that Aeglos was forged from the blade of Ringil… if it wasn’t buried with Fingolfin. It wouldn’t be the first blade of a fallen king reforged into a new weapon with a similar name and properties…
My favorite is Glamdring. I remember finding a secluded spot in our horse pasture and pretending to wield it while slaying imaginary orcs and balrogs. Such good memories lol. Great video Rainbow Dave!
Awesome list. Keep up the great work Mellon! Do you believe that Orcrist was Ecthelion's sword? My favorite weapon was Gil-Galad's spear.
I believe that
' Sting' was very popular.
Thanks for mentioning my flaming sword ! Keep up the great work. ☺️
I always imagine divers in thousands of years searching the ruins of Beleriand and finding all the lost things and ruins from the Silmarillion
Or divers in Forochel discovering the Palantiri.
This may be the first video of yours that I've seen, but I'm impressed. It was a well-thought-out and well-explained list, although Sting should've at least gotten an honorable mention!
I love the connections you are making between certain weapons. Some of your speculations seem solid.
I wonder why so many artists depict Gil Galad without his helmet?
After all... "Gil-galad was an elven-king.
Of him the harpers sadly sing;
the last whose realm was fair and free
between the Mountains and the Sea.
His sword was long, his lance was keen.
His shining helm afar was seen;
the countless stars of heaven's field
were mirrored in his silver shield.
But long ago he rode away,
and where he dwelleth none can say;
for into darkness fell his star
in Mordor where the shadows are.
It seems bizarre that any warrior would go into battle without a helmet!
Because it would conceal his pretty eleven face...I have no prove yet no doubt .
Your reverence for Tolkien's incredible world is clear. Given today's preference for the media and their willingness to ""modernize" his work is heartbreaking. I will not watch the new series. I find it despicable. Thanks for this excellent video.
Love the video. Very informative. Honestly I struggled with the Silmarillion, so your content really helps fill in my lore gaps :D
I think the fact the Merry kind of saves the whole day is really understated in this whole thing. Merry and Sam are the real heroes.
So true. Your absolutely right. Merry is not just a brave little person as is his depiction in the films. Merry is the reason the Witch King falls. I gotta give Pippin some love too...
Oh jeeeez. My precious.
Nah, I hate this kind of revisionism. Merry and Sam were heroes. But so was Frodo. And Aragorn. And Gandalf. They all were. Frodo especially gets this weird rep where, despite literally saving the world, his body and mind being destroyed by the ring as a result, people don't want to give him credit. Sam never went through what Frodo had to go through so its really unfair to say that Sam was "the real hero" when it was Frodo and Sam together that succeeded.
@@GetterRay I agree with you, but usually the hero of the story gets a happy final act, where they are transformed by their journey to a new place of power/happiness/whatever. Frodo doesn't get the hero's ending -- the girl, the fame, the glory; Sam and Aragorn do. Feels to me like Frodo not getting the hero's ending is echoing Tolkien's experience in World War I. many WWI veterans came home disfigured and permanently broken, like Frodo did. I don't think many came home in glory.
To quote Frodo:
"We set out to save the Shire, Sam. And we did. But not for me. That's how it often has to be when things are in danger. Someone has to lose it, to give it up, so that others may keep it."
Frodo gave it all up for others. And that's why I don't like it when people don't want to give him credit.@@inimitableminimalist
I don't know if I would call Tuor underrated.... Lead his own House of Gondolin, father of Earendil/grandfather of Elros and Elrond, and you already explained his battle accomplishments. So yeah, probably less underrated and more one of the most important figures in Middle Earth's history.
"Underrated" in the sense of not much discussed by fans, I suppose.
Recently started watching your videos. Their so epic and interesting. I love the passion with which you describe Tolkien's lore. Thanks!
42 minutes and 40 seconds well-spent. Thank you, RD!
I've always been fascinated by Gil-Galad's spear. Thanks for another TERRIFIC video.
Ive been doing the rounds through the middle earth youtube buffs. You are by far my favorite.
Hey, 🌈 Dave! This was an interesting top ten. As usual, you add a lot of the rich backstory that make your videos so distinct, fun and fascinating.
I love the Quenya (or is it Sindarin?) numbers under the English text as you count down. Maybe say them in Elvish for us once just for fun!!! It’d be interesting to hear. Whatever you think best, of course. This IS your “baby” after all! 😄
Have a marvelous weekend!!!
It's interesting that we never really hear of the sword that Feanor wielded, other than it was once used to threaten Fingolfin. Surely, though, it would have a magical weapon of great properties that he used in his great battle against the Balrogs of Morgoth. Feanor didn't live long enough in Middle Earth for it to become known, and I assume it never made it into the hands of Maedhros or any of his brothers as an heirloom.
Maybe he did not feel the need to name it as it was possibly the first sword ever created in the world or at least presented to a public
I'd like to believe the spear was made from the sword, a reforge always seems to circle around the family storylines of revenge and redemption. Like Anduil.
I always felt that that very same sword actually was Ringil, which Fingolfin later took up both as a slight and a token to remember Feanor by.
Though if I had to think of a sword for Feanor, I would think it should be named Naurë - Flame - to match its weirder fiery personality.
Well, there is Beron's knife Angrist, the knife-kin to Narsil, the knife that freed the first Simiril from Melkor's Iron Crown
Considering it is the weapon that performs the single most important act in the signature story of the legendarium against Morgoth himself to obtain the greatest treasure a Man ever holds and which eventually allows the world to be saved, I really thought it would make this list. But it admittedly doesn’t get many mentions, which I imagine it’s the reason it was left off.
I'd put that on the list, no question about it.
Angrist tops all the other weapons by its use in action.
You make me ashamed to be a Tolkien fan
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Wow, such a good video. I read the books a long time ago makes me wonder what I have missed or forgotten after watching the movies over and over again. Great job.
Sting - while truth is it was probably forged a fairly standard knife in the first age - but in the third age its deeds are great - even if those wielding it were not the greatest warriors - it was present a key point in downfall of Sauron and wounded / drove off Shelob!
And what of Samwise's frying pan, might I inquire?...............
Fantastic research and ideas for the trails the swords took!
I have subscribed and will like all of your videos. So hard to find good entertainment on RUclips and your channel is excellent with very high production values.
Thanks! I'm really glad you enjoy the videos!
Great video, I loved all the reminders.
Each weapon opened up so many little things I'd forgotten about and sometimes even charactors long gone in my head...I'm going back to these books, thank you indeed.
As for any suggestions 🤔
How's abouts you try and give us...
*Top 10 battle moments/skills
*Top 10 dark moments?
* Top 10 acts of deception?
* Top 10 scary hidden creatures, such as
Old Man Willow...
But to be fair such list's would be fairly blimmin easy to make just stand alone.
But the thought, detail and graphic you put in would make any of your Top 10 tens worth the watch, keep up the good work. I enjoyed that 👍🍻😎
I've loved that opening quote since I first read it. Thank you for including it.
Rainbow Dan, you are such a gifted storyteller. Your delivery is so fun and fresh that you made me love a video about ... weapons?
Trust me, this not my thing at all. But as usual, the video was great both in terms of information and entertainment. I might actually watch it again ... how did you do that?
Great video man! probably my favorite weapon on all of Tolkiens World would be Anglachel/Gurthang the black blade, it´s the literal definition of a double edge sword linked to probably the darkest history and saddest character ever written by Tolkien and is one of the reasons why i love the Silmarillon a little bit more than LOTR, the histories just feel a bit darker and the characters more flawed, Spoiler for the Silmarillon below...
I feel part of the malice that the blade has against Turin besides of Eols rage is the fact that Turin kills Beleg the Righteous owner of Anglachel/Gurthang with it by mistake, so want vengeance on Turin for it.
I love Aragorn’s Anduain Flane of the West. Remade from the blade that was broken Narsile. Sting was kinda cool the Blade glows blue when orcs are near.
Coffee and Dave!! It's gonna be a rainbow day 😆 love this episode
Enjoy your day!
my favorite of all the times is Ringil , i think that The Dragon-helm of Dor-lómin should be mentioned although it is not a weapon , a defense object but should at least have a honorable mention for just being awesome .
and also hail Ecthelion's helmet for finally shutting down the king slayer :')
Great video, research, and art featured
Your passion is so AWESOME, I love that I just found you channel, keep up the work you legend.
Omg awesomeeeee I loves videos like this
Would love to know what became of Anglachel's sibling Anguirel.
Great channel! I am just now finding this and watching a bunch of your previous videos. I liked your explanation of how Glamdring, Orcrist, and Sting ended up where they did. I guess they might have shared part of their fate with the weapons recovered from the barrow downs that the hobbits all used as well. One of which even helped defeat the chief Nazgul.
I would put as first three: 1) Gurthang as it was used to kill Melkor in the Dagor Dagorath, 2) Grond, 3) Weapon that killed Ancalagon
That was absolutely incredible video, thanks for that!
Gotta say that im biased to axes and hammers but the stories behind each weapon and those who bore them are amazing. Have you thought about having a discord server so people can get notified of uploads regularly (youtube doesn't notify about some of your uploads occasionally)
I may set up a Discord server in the relatively near future.
Fabulous interpretations and explications… best I’ve found… thank you!
Loved this content.
I wonder what happened to Aeglos. As a fan of spears, I always liked it very much. Hopefully someone in the third age still wielded it in the fight against Sauron.
Headcanon:
The Black Arrow of Dale was a unique homing arrow forged by the dwarves of Erebor, imbued with dwarven craftsmanship and with special feathers in addition to dwarven magic, thus allowing the arrow to be influenced by the thoughts of whomever shot it, so the archer would speak their target, loose the bow, and let the arrow home in on said target. Effectively an arrow that never ever misses.
The morgul blade was built with old and evil magic, so that upon stabbing someone, the blade would shatter and fragment, leaving a poisoning blade piece lodged in the victim. After some time the dagger would regenerate. This made the morgul blade a very powerful finisher in a duel. Most daggers were used to parry swords and the like, but the morgul blade, suggested by its reversed crossguard, is intended as a stab and run kind of weapon.
I like that idea but i love the fact it was a Father/Son team that bought Smaug down and a damn good eye!🧐🏹🐉
Wait, what about Beleg's great Bow? --loved the video 🥰
34:24 Scandalous that Tolkien named an orc lord after a primary Celtic god 🤣
Badass list for a badass channel
I think my favorite weapon from the whole setting is Sting. A blade used by simple folks in dark times to do great things.
The black arrow that was in the Animated Hobbit was awesome looking…..I still remember seeing it for the first time an ABC Special back in the mid-70’s (one of the few times my brothers and I were allowed to stay up past our 8:00 bed time)
Amazing video!
The breaking of the Morgul knife wasn't just an unhappy accident. Elrond says, "the purpose of the knife was to break off in the wound, leaving a shard in the victim's body."
Terrifying. So presumably, a Morgul knife would be a weapon used only once, for assassination or to subdue (or skin alive?) a single target. I wonder if they keep several. Do their robes even have pockets?
*Nazgul tries on new robe and cowl*
“Ohhhh look! This one has pockets! I never get pockets!”
Finally important questions!
@@archangeldad2007 i just imagined an excited lil nazgul showing his pockets to daddy sauron exlaiming itself in the cutest lil black speech
What does the Nazgul have in it's nasty little pocketses?!
This Dunedine Dagger stuff is amazing never having read the books. Something so beautiful about “unseen sinews”.
It started with the forging of the great Films.
The threads were given by Tolkien, immortal, wisest and fairest of all beings. The rights were granted to Jackson, the great mountain miner and craftsman of the mountain of lore .And nine, nine hours were given to the race of men, who above all else desire quality. But they were all of them deceived, for another show was made. In the Land of Amazon, in the fires of Mount Prime, the Dark Lord Bezos forged in secret a Master Flop. And in to this show he poured his money, his greed and his will to dominate every film.
ONE SHOW TO RUIN THEM ALL. ⚔️
Good work sir. I really enjoyed that. Thank you for the laugh.
And sank from after shooting the stars into the ocean Atlantic with Smaug's treasure. Pr north Korea... take your pick
Do you think it would be the remnant effects of the morgul blade or simply the possession of the ring?
Perhaps the professor was making a connection here.
I have complex ptsd due to my time spent overseas in Afghanistan and I was injured there. For my first year or so at the naval hospital in San Diego, I experienced “phantom” like pains. Every time my anxiety spikes, my old injuries act up. I know the ring heavily influenced emotions/paranoia etc…The only thing that is strange to me is the anniversary aspect of it, almost as if it is clockwork. That’s the part that leads me to thinking it is a dark magic or will lingering in him.
I've heard people suggest that Frodo's heightened senses in Moria may be an effect of his PTS.
Great commentary!
I Really LOVE hearing this list of your TOP 10 WEAPONS along with the various, attached tales 💙 I’m rereading The Silmarillion as we speak…..THANKS DAVE! Excellent video as usual.
Aranruth definitely belongs on the list. Thingol's sword and the king sword of numenor. Not to mention that it will be at the end battle when morgoth returns.
Note the strange resemblance between Gurthang and Stormbringer, the great black sword wielded by Elric in the series by Michael Moorcock.
This is all I could think of during that section. Stormbringer was pure evil, it killed Elric's wife and eventually killed him.
The fact that it made weird singing/chanting noises when in battle as it consumed peoples souls just made it worse. A truly terrible weapon/entity.
Had to freeze frame for a momen at mark 9:00 to admire the complexity and horrible beauty PJ put into his depiction of "Grond" for The Return Of The King. Perfect!!! :)
No, no, no. The most powerful weapon in Middle Earth is Tom Bombadil's laughter. :)
My top one is Ringil. Great list!!!
Dude your knowledge of Tolkien is extremely impressive. I love watching your videos, but I wonder why you haven't been described as a Tolkien Scholar. If you have been, then I apologize.
Thanks very much! I'm really glad you enjoy the videos. I'd be honoured to be considered a Tolkien scholar, although I feel there are scholars and then there are Scholars. I'm a huge fan of Tolkien's, but I'm nowhere near as knowledgeable as the Tolkien Professors who have dedicated their academic careers to Tolkien's works.
Good choices dave.
Hard though to pick a number one favourite for myself
The Black Arrow is my favorite weapon of Tolkien. It's depiction in the movie was a huge disappointment. but I understand that movie had major production problems.
The "aiglos" flower could be a snowdrop - reputed to be one of the first flowers to appear in the spring, often while there's still some snow on the ground.
Gurthang for me.... The story of Turin Turambor is epic...
Sam's Holy Frying Pan should have been on the list. Not only can you cook with you can bonk orcs with it
I'm not even a big weapon guy and I think these were all pretty cool.
Gorthanc had its own will but I would argue the one ring also had its own will. Tolkien claimed a being that was stronger than Sauron could master the ring. It's just that the cost is he would get corrupted by the ring. So I would argue the ring is also entirely sentient. Even if it couldn't "speak"
I love your videos so much
I would love a Top 10 Tolkien monsters!
I enjoyed you speculation on Glamdring. I always pictured Glamdring and Orcrist as troll loot after the fall of Gondolin. I guessed the Orcs/Goblins would not have touched them but trolls apparently held no such fear. After the fall of Morgoth and his forces not destroyed were scattered. It held in my mind that trolls which have a natural tendency to gather and horde would have escaped to the east with what loot they could have carried from Angband. The life span of trolls is not addressed to my knowledge so whether they escaped as a band from the fall of Angband or whether they acquired them by some other means was always interesting mystery to me.
It pleases me to know that the 1977 RankinBass animated Hobbit movie got the Thrush talking to Bard correct, and that what he said of the Black Arrow after the Thrush told him of the missing scale upon Smaug's breast was almost word for word identical to what he said in the book. It's been more than 20 years since I read The Hobbit so I honestly remember very little of it because I was less than 10 years old so I didn't really comprehend most of it lol
nice cameos of weapons yes, each with a story to tell
Fingolfin's sword was my favorite
Love it when he says "mmmBUT!"
Glamdring had a short sword "twin" if you will that was made together as a set. The blade was later to be called "Sting." Frodo is the current owner of Sting.
Happy Friday, Rainbow Dave. Stay Groovy 🤟
I love the chapter thumbnail
@13:17: actually, we do know there is only one morgul blade, it is stated very clearly in the lord of the rings movies that it was specifically forged for the witch king of angmar. or however you spell it.
Gurthang/Anglachel *definitely* my favorite.
Sam's potatoe pan is up there forsure
With regard to the Morgul Blade: there is a similar item in Englush folklore involving "elfshot" - This weapon (typically an arrow), said to be wielded by faeries, works in the same manner. One who has been elfshot is generally doomed, for the barbed point wriggles its way through the body until it reaches the heart. Rather than being a "nefarious" tool like, say, poison, it was typically used to illustrate the peerless hunting abilities of the fae - that any shot that landed would be lethal.
I knew about elfshot before reading the Lord of the Rings, and I always wondered why he assigned it to the Nine. It always seemed like a tool more fitting for the elves of Mirkwood. As I learned more about British sensibility in Tolkien's day, I've come to suspect he may have found the notion "unsporting," and more fitted to the insidious minions of the Dark Lord.
Forged by a dwarf, reforged by elves, wielded by a Man, talk about some themes going on there with anduril.
Great list. I found it quite fascinating. My fiancé will definitely love this list. He loves learning about weapons and their history.
Keep up the awesome work.