Toontrack has a big sale going on today.... Pulled the trigger and ordered Modern Metal per your recommendation. Excited to hear how it sounds in one of my mixes. Seems like a very versatile kit. Thanks again, DuFFuL!
@@DuFFuL I am about to purchase EZDrummer3 to specifically record metal/death metal. I know that I'd need to get an expansion to get the sounds I want. I only saw the names of the expansions, but hadn't heard any samples. And there are so many metal ones, but had no idea which I would like or dislike. Still debating, but your input on top of the sampling has helped me to narrow my options since money is tight and can only afford to have one expansion. I like everything on your list, but to only have one at first, it has been incredibly helpful to know the limitations of each.
I wasn't sure if the modern metal would be a little too generic, but you've given me a lot more confidence in considering it. I also am more considering the duality 2 as well. Wasn't even on my radar until I saw your video. Also love the tone of the toms in number 2 and I like number 4 a lot as well. Most likely gonna get one of those 4. If you could only have one, would number 1 be your choice? And I'm curious, if I got a second one down the road, could I take the snare from one and combine with the toms and cymbals of another? Or can I only use one at a time? This will be my first time ever using a software like this. I've been stuck to the stick sounds from my td-9 for too long now 😂
@@fightclub94 Honestly if I had to choose one right now, I really wouldn't know which. I've actually just started using Mix wave drums and I'm completely blown away by them. If you are really looking into getting Ezdrummer expansions, any of the ones in my top 10 list are all great but it just depends on the exact sound you are going for. The death metal expansion is amazing and so is the Dark Matter. The modern metal one is very niche and won't suit all styles. It is still my number one, but it might not suit your style. Honestly go back through my videos and I have a lot more in-depth reviews on each of the expansions in the list. Each video has a song I wrote using those drums. It will hopefully help you make a more informed decision and not waste any money!!!
@@DuFFuL I was considering Death Metal after the video and at this point, I'm trying to find a reason not to get it, and so far, can't find one. The fact that it happened to be your first suggestion in your last comment is really giving me the last bit of confidence I was looking for. Dark Matter was also what I figured may be my second one in the future. Seems like we have very similar taste! I'll double check your previous videos to be sure, but I've essentially made up my mind that that I will get the Death Metal EZX first. Thank you again. I was so lost before this video and your comments, and now I have more confidence than ever! You have earned a subscriber! 🙏🤘🤝
I've ez drummer and I like the duality II and also Modern Metal. But I've been trying the vst with Mike Mangini drums from Mixwave, 'cause of the the quantity of options and toms . And I'm liking it also , and we can use the Ez drummer mapping in there so It's a nice surprise for me
I'm going to have to check that one out now. I love all drum programs. They all sound unique. I also think it's great when they have mapping from other VSTs. That way I can load up older songs I've recorded and simply put it in. It is the worst when you have to move all your midi notes manually. Thank you for watching and the great comment!!
Can't remember exactly which one it is, although I'm pretty sure its Dark Matter - if you turn up the ambience all the way and listen to the ride bell all the way till the end of the sample you'll hear studio audio "you want me to do that again?" Or something similar
@@DuFFuL Yeah but it is kinda disappointing in a way. Like I'm kinda afraid it'll bleed through any mix where I consider using that expansion. It almost turns me off from using it, even though I know it probably won't be audible. It's just when you KNOW it's there somewhere haha
@@DuFFuL it's not loud at all. It's just again - when you know it's there. Like imagine every ride bell you use also plays a vocal sample, but it's really quiet. Even if you can't hear it that well it's just an annoying thought
I have always loved Metal Machine, the snares are the selling point for me, the Ludwig kit is great for hard rock, the tama kits are great for metal, great list, first time here, subscribed! 🤘
Thank you for the sub!! I’m glad you liked it. I agree, metal machine is so solid. I literally bought it for the snares. Heard someone do a demo and I just had to get it as soon as I heard the snares pop through!!!
I am definitely going to add Modern Metal and Dark Matter to my EZX collection... You're so right about the clarity of Modern Metal sounds... OMG *Random question....DuFFul, did you ever live in the United States? I had a childhood friend that you remind me of who lived in my neighborhood in Georgia...he even had an accent similar to yours. I can't remember his name...he had a brother named "KK." -at least everyone called him that. The family moved away early...I was probably 6 years old. -I am almost 50 now.. 😂 ***Your channel has become one of my favorites -out of nowhere... great content, DuFFul!
First of all, you should definitely pick up those two expansions. They are easily some of the best for metal in my opinion. I just hope you like them as much as me. Download my presets for them as well. Just to add another one to the collection. No, I never lived in the states. I've always been in Australia. Maybe I have a doppelganger out there somewhere hahahaha. I'm glad you are enjoying my channel. Thank you!!!!
@@DuFFuL ...I am sure that I will enjoy the 2 EZX'S. I am using Metal Machine and Metal! a lot right now.. Pop Punk is another EZX that surprised me a lot! It really sounds great!!! I am using it more and more -thanks to you.. 😂 Nashville EZX was on sale a little while back and I pulled the trigger on it as well ....I really like it ..sounds really natural. I have done some heavy metal recordings with it and it's really good -believe it or not. It's so easy to get inspired with the different drum sounds...thanks for all that you do, my friend.
@@mdwayne741 I'm really glad my videos are helping other people find expansions and ideas that are adding to the creative process of their music. The expansion I want to get next is the Gospel EZX. Listening to the demos on Toontracks site, I really think I could get some fantastic sounds out of it. I think I will grab it on the next sale!!!
my top 10 in no particular order: Big Stage, Death Metal, Progressive, EZD 3 core library, The Classic, Gospel, Modern Metal, Metal Machine, the OG Pop/Rock EZX, and Americana.
That’s a nice list!!! The Gospel is on my radar as my next purchase. I listened to the demos on their site and man does it sound solid! Just waiting for the next sale to hit and I will grab it!! How is the big stage? I wasn’t really impressed with the sound that I heard in the demos. Would you recommend it?
I’m not really a fan of how much reverb covers the whole kit. It sounds great on the snare but it makes the tons and kick sound off. Also I’m pretty sure it only has two kits and the sound very similar to each other so there isn’t a lot of diversity in the plugin.
Great list! I really dig Metal Machine and Death Metal. Metal! is also a good one. I need to mess with Modern Metal more, I like the tones and detail but always end up using something else. Made of Metal is fantastic. All those cymbals, man! cheers
You know, they are all amazing. This list was so hard to make because honestly, I love them all. I'm going to do a Frankenstein video soon, where I mix pieces from different kits to make one amazing kit!!
@@DuFFuL guessing he meant death metal. It does have a pretty "black" look to it. They should def do a black metal one for metal month sometime. Like the kvlt drums plugin
@@lauridsen1381 I know they have a black metal Midi pack kit so not sure if that is what he was talking about. Tried a few of Ugritone's drums but just can't gel with them. They are very raw and while I'm sure that suits some peoples style, it just doesn't seem to work for me. I will say though, I love their midi groove packs!!!
@@DuFFuL actually didn't know they had a black metal groove pack, will have to check that out. But yeah understandable, I'm not the biggest black metal guy either, but it seems like a pretty big part of metal that they still haven't touched at all
@@lauridsen1381 Hey I agree 100% The more metal genre kits they do the better. I also really wish they would start focusing on some specific drummers. Id love to see Portnoy, Ulrich, Vinnie Paul or even a David Silveria from Korn expansion.
There's no accounting for taste... dark matter is not even my top 5... i love the bright room.. is so real... but for me the number 1 is hard rock... I like your videos..keep up the good work
@@rodrigoperes7623 thanks mate! The good thing about taste is everyone has their own. Otherwise it would be a very boring world! Hahaha I love bright room and hard rock as well.
Death metal, drums of destruction and metal favourites. The sound of the hard rock hits are great and powerful but I agree the grooves as not as good as what I wanted. I wish there was an easier way to change the tempo during a song without manually doing it.
I just put a tempo change in my daw and ezdrummer just automatically changes with it. And I agree with the boring grooves. They definitely could put a little more effort into some unique drum beats!! Thanks for watching 🤘🏻🤘🏻
@@DuFFuL Since 2023 I've been mostly on Ugritone riot drums and ml drums essentials. Need to make a video on my favourites soon. Before that I was mostly perfect drums with panda and 3 sigma samples added. I'm very picky about sounds haha
@@resington I could never get into Ugritone stuff. Although I love their midi packs. A lot of usable beats in them. Their kits always sounded off to me. I have some but not really a fan. I do love ML sound lab stuff. I really want to grab the new drum packs. I only have essentials but some of the new ones look amazing. Especially the Luxe! The yamz also looks great. When I’m finally not broke I will buy them hahaha! Perfect drums is probably my favourite drum plugin. The snares sound damn amazing. Also hertz drums has some good stuff as well. If you haven’t checked them out, I would recommend it for sure!!!
I purchased EZdrummer Metal expansion pack and I am having trouble figuring out how to select it to change my kit type. Anyone have a quick solution? TIA
@@DuFFuL EzDrummer 3. I’m on a MAC, and ran the install but when I go to the user presets or try to swap kits, the pack isn’t listed. I’ve tried rebooting also.
@@DuFFuL Yes I did. I can see the add on pack when I go under grooves but I can’t find the Metal kit when I go back to drums and use the dropdown in the upper right.
@@MRRVADrums it could mean that the library has installed to a different place then where it should have. Which shouldn’t really happen if you are using the manager. There are two drop down menus in the top right, you are using the one on the left where you choose the expansion? I know it’s a silly question but I’m just trying to work it out. Also do you own other expansions or is this you first one?
I now have and according to your videos, "death metal, made of metal, metal!, drums of destruction. If I have to keep one it would be DRUMS OF DESTRUCTION... all the presets are varied and fantastic and stick to a fat guitar sound (peavey 6505/ gibson) even if the grooves are unusable. DEATH METAL is great too, lots of ambiance, but sometimes you have to lower the reverb a little, the grooves are not very usable for heavy metal on the other hand. MADE OF METAL has a great sound but sounds a little muddy with my guitar sound, but good after a few adjustments, notably by lowering the sound of the hi-hat which takes up too much space. The grooves are great! METAL! I don't know enough yet, it sounds older than the others but seems good for working on a new piece with its very dry sound, but I think I would try to choose another kit for the final demo...but I don't don't know him well enough yet.
Man that’s a great analysis! I fully agree with death metal having way too much reverb. It’s the one thing I can’t stand about it. The problem is that I love it on the snare but wish I could turn the reverb down on the toms separately!!! It’s the one thing that has always frustrated me about ezdrummer as a whole. I really wish they had a reverb knob for each kit piece. Put it right next to the volume and tuning knob when you click on something. That would be amazing. It would honestly be a game changer for ezdrummer in my opinion.
@@DuFFuL I'm guessing they don't want to add too many features to the plugin, so that Superior Drummer will still be relevant. You could always just route the snare to a separate mixing channel and put reverb on the snare though
Toontrack has a big sale going on today.... Pulled the trigger and ordered Modern Metal per your recommendation. Excited to hear how it sounds in one of my mixes. Seems like a very versatile kit. Thanks again, DuFFuL!
Yeh I seen that! I’m finally going to night the bullet and get the Gospel expansion. I’ve had me eye on it for a while!!! Expect a video soon 😁😁😁
Thank you so much for helping me not waste money on my first expansion purchase!
@@fightclub94 what were you going to buy? What did I save you from?
@@DuFFuL I am about to purchase EZDrummer3 to specifically record metal/death metal. I know that I'd need to get an expansion to get the sounds I want. I only saw the names of the expansions, but hadn't heard any samples. And there are so many metal ones, but had no idea which I would like or dislike. Still debating, but your input on top of the sampling has helped me to narrow my options since money is tight and can only afford to have one expansion. I like everything on your list, but to only have one at first, it has been incredibly helpful to know the limitations of each.
I wasn't sure if the modern metal would be a little too generic, but you've given me a lot more confidence in considering it. I also am more considering the duality 2 as well. Wasn't even on my radar until I saw your video. Also love the tone of the toms in number 2 and I like number 4 a lot as well. Most likely gonna get one of those 4. If you could only have one, would number 1 be your choice? And I'm curious, if I got a second one down the road, could I take the snare from one and combine with the toms and cymbals of another? Or can I only use one at a time? This will be my first time ever using a software like this. I've been stuck to the stick sounds from my td-9 for too long now 😂
@@fightclub94 Honestly if I had to choose one right now, I really wouldn't know which. I've actually just started using Mix wave drums and I'm completely blown away by them.
If you are really looking into getting Ezdrummer expansions, any of the ones in my top 10 list are all great but it just depends on the exact sound you are going for. The death metal expansion is amazing and so is the Dark Matter. The modern metal one is very niche and won't suit all styles. It is still my number one, but it might not suit your style.
Honestly go back through my videos and I have a lot more in-depth reviews on each of the expansions in the list. Each video has a song I wrote using those drums. It will hopefully help you make a more informed decision and not waste any money!!!
@@DuFFuL I was considering Death Metal after the video and at this point, I'm trying to find a reason not to get it, and so far, can't find one. The fact that it happened to be your first suggestion in your last comment is really giving me the last bit of confidence I was looking for. Dark Matter was also what I figured may be my second one in the future. Seems like we have very similar taste!
I'll double check your previous videos to be sure, but I've essentially made up my mind that that I will get the Death Metal EZX first.
Thank you again. I was so lost before this video and your comments, and now I have more confidence than ever! You have earned a subscriber!
🙏🤘🤝
I've ez drummer and I like the duality II and also Modern Metal. But I've been trying the vst with Mike Mangini drums from Mixwave, 'cause of the the quantity of options and toms . And I'm liking it also , and we can use the Ez drummer mapping in there so It's a nice surprise for me
I'm going to have to check that one out now. I love all drum programs. They all sound unique. I also think it's great when they have mapping from other VSTs. That way I can load up older songs I've recorded and simply put it in. It is the worst when you have to move all your midi notes manually.
Thank you for watching and the great comment!!
Can't remember exactly which one it is, although I'm pretty sure its Dark Matter - if you turn up the ambience all the way and listen to the ride bell all the way till the end of the sample you'll hear studio audio "you want me to do that again?" Or something similar
hahaha that's great!! I'm going to give it a try. I guess with such intricate programs, they are going to miss some things!!
@@DuFFuL Yeah but it is kinda disappointing in a way. Like I'm kinda afraid it'll bleed through any mix where I consider using that expansion. It almost turns me off from using it, even though I know it probably won't be audible. It's just when you KNOW it's there somewhere haha
@@lauridsen1381 I still haven't had a chance to check it out. Is it really that loud? because I've never noticed it!
@@DuFFuL it's not loud at all. It's just again - when you know it's there. Like imagine every ride bell you use also plays a vocal sample, but it's really quiet. Even if you can't hear it that well it's just an annoying thought
@@lauridsen1381 I kind of don't want to hear it because, I will never unhear it lol.
I have always loved Metal Machine, the snares are the selling point for me, the Ludwig kit is great for hard rock, the tama kits are great for metal, great list, first time here, subscribed! 🤘
Thank you for the sub!! I’m glad you liked it. I agree, metal machine is so solid. I literally bought it for the snares. Heard someone do a demo and I just had to get it as soon as I heard the snares pop through!!!
I am definitely going to add Modern Metal and Dark Matter to my EZX collection... You're so right about the clarity of Modern Metal sounds... OMG
*Random question....DuFFul, did you ever live in the United States? I had a childhood friend that you remind me of who lived in my neighborhood in Georgia...he even had an accent similar to yours. I can't remember his name...he had a brother named "KK." -at least everyone called him that. The family moved away early...I was probably 6 years old. -I am almost 50 now.. 😂
***Your channel has become one of my favorites -out of nowhere... great content, DuFFul!
First of all, you should definitely pick up those two expansions. They are easily some of the best for metal in my opinion. I just hope you like them as much as me. Download my presets for them as well. Just to add another one to the collection.
No, I never lived in the states. I've always been in Australia. Maybe I have a doppelganger out there somewhere hahahaha.
I'm glad you are enjoying my channel. Thank you!!!!
@@DuFFuL ...I am sure that I will enjoy the 2 EZX'S. I am using Metal Machine and Metal! a lot right now.. Pop Punk is another EZX that surprised me a lot! It really sounds great!!! I am using it more and more -thanks to you.. 😂
Nashville EZX was on sale a little while back and I pulled the trigger on it as well ....I really like it ..sounds really natural. I have done some heavy metal recordings with it and it's really good -believe it or not.
It's so easy to get inspired with the different drum sounds...thanks for all that you do, my friend.
@@mdwayne741 I'm really glad my videos are helping other people find expansions and ideas that are adding to the creative process of their music.
The expansion I want to get next is the Gospel EZX. Listening to the demos on Toontracks site, I really think I could get some fantastic sounds out of it. I think I will grab it on the next sale!!!
@@DuFFuL The Gospel Kit DOES sound amazing.... it's huge and versatile from what I have seen.
I am interested in it as well.
@@mdwayne741 I will make a vid as soon as I get it so if it’s bad, you don’t waste your money hahaha
my top 10 in no particular order:
Big Stage, Death Metal, Progressive, EZD 3 core library, The Classic, Gospel, Modern Metal, Metal Machine, the OG Pop/Rock EZX, and Americana.
That’s a nice list!!! The Gospel is on my radar as my next purchase. I listened to the demos on their site and man does it sound solid! Just waiting for the next sale to hit and I will grab it!!
How is the big stage? I wasn’t really impressed with the sound that I heard in the demos. Would you recommend it?
Great list!
You said Death Metal has things holding it back from the top 3. Are there any specific flaws or problems you have with it?
I’m not really a fan of how much reverb covers the whole kit. It sounds great on the snare but it makes the tons and kick sound off. Also I’m pretty sure it only has two kits and the sound very similar to each other so there isn’t a lot of diversity in the plugin.
Great list! I really dig Metal Machine and Death Metal. Metal! is also a good one. I need to mess with Modern Metal more, I like the tones and detail but always end up using something else.
Made of Metal is fantastic. All those cymbals, man!
cheers
You know, they are all amazing. This list was so hard to make because honestly, I love them all. I'm going to do a Frankenstein video soon, where I mix pieces from different kits to make one amazing kit!!
Super.I needed this.Black Metal is my next.Thank you.
Black metal? Which one is that?
@@DuFFuL guessing he meant death metal. It does have a pretty "black" look to it. They should def do a black metal one for metal month sometime. Like the kvlt drums plugin
@@lauridsen1381 I know they have a black metal Midi pack kit so not sure if that is what he was talking about.
Tried a few of Ugritone's drums but just can't gel with them. They are very raw and while I'm sure that suits some peoples style, it just doesn't seem to work for me. I will say though, I love their midi groove packs!!!
@@DuFFuL actually didn't know they had a black metal groove pack, will have to check that out. But yeah understandable, I'm not the biggest black metal guy either, but it seems like a pretty big part of metal that they still haven't touched at all
@@lauridsen1381 Hey I agree 100% The more metal genre kits they do the better. I also really wish they would start focusing on some specific drummers. Id love to see Portnoy, Ulrich, Vinnie Paul or even a David Silveria from Korn expansion.
Great list!
Thanks mate!!!
There's no accounting for taste... dark matter is not even my top 5... i love the bright room.. is so real... but for me the number 1 is hard rock... I like your videos..keep up the good work
@@rodrigoperes7623 thanks mate! The good thing about taste is everyone has their own. Otherwise it would be a very boring world! Hahaha
I love bright room and hard rock as well.
Death metal, drums of destruction and metal favourites. The sound of the hard rock hits are great and powerful but I agree the grooves as not as good as what I wanted.
I wish there was an easier way to change the tempo during a song without manually doing it.
I just put a tempo change in my daw and ezdrummer just automatically changes with it.
And I agree with the boring grooves. They definitely could put a little more effort into some unique drum beats!!
Thanks for watching 🤘🏻🤘🏻
Never ever used ex drummer. Definitely the best tool out there for drums I'm just contrary. Maybe one day.
What do you use man??? I’m really curious now because your mixes sound solid as hell!!
@@DuFFuL Since 2023 I've been mostly on Ugritone riot drums and ml drums essentials. Need to make a video on my favourites soon. Before that I was mostly perfect drums with panda and 3 sigma samples added. I'm very picky about sounds haha
@@resington I could never get into Ugritone stuff. Although I love their midi packs. A lot of usable beats in them. Their kits always sounded off to me. I have some but not really a fan.
I do love ML sound lab stuff. I really want to grab the new drum packs. I only have essentials but some of the new ones look amazing. Especially the Luxe! The yamz also looks great. When I’m finally not broke I will buy them hahaha!
Perfect drums is probably my favourite drum plugin. The snares sound damn amazing. Also hertz drums has some good stuff as well. If you haven’t checked them out, I would recommend it for sure!!!
I purchased EZdrummer Metal expansion pack and I am having trouble figuring out how to select it to change my kit type. Anyone have a quick solution? TIA
Are you on EZdrummer 2 or 3?
@@DuFFuL EzDrummer 3. I’m on a MAC, and ran the install but when I go to the user presets or try to swap kits, the pack isn’t listed. I’ve tried rebooting also.
@@MRRVADrums did you install it through the ezdrummer manager?
@@DuFFuL Yes I did. I can see the add on pack when I go under grooves but I can’t find the Metal kit when I go back to drums and use the dropdown in the upper right.
@@MRRVADrums it could mean that the library has installed to a different place then where it should have. Which shouldn’t really happen if you are using the manager.
There are two drop down menus in the top right, you are using the one on the left where you choose the expansion? I know it’s a silly question but I’m just trying to work it out. Also do you own other expansions or is this you first one?
I now have and according to your videos, "death metal, made of metal, metal!, drums of destruction. If I have to keep one it would be DRUMS OF DESTRUCTION... all the presets are varied and fantastic and stick to a fat guitar sound (peavey 6505/ gibson) even if the grooves are unusable.
DEATH METAL is great too, lots of ambiance, but sometimes you have to lower the reverb a little, the grooves are not very usable for heavy metal on the other hand.
MADE OF METAL has a great sound but sounds a little muddy with my guitar sound, but good after a few adjustments, notably by lowering the sound of the hi-hat which takes up too much space. The grooves are great!
METAL! I don't know enough yet, it sounds older than the others but seems good for working on a new piece with its very dry sound, but I think I would try to choose another kit for the final demo...but I don't don't know him well enough yet.
Man that’s a great analysis! I fully agree with death metal having way too much reverb. It’s the one thing I can’t stand about it. The problem is that I love it on the snare but wish I could turn the reverb down on the toms separately!!! It’s the one thing that has always frustrated me about ezdrummer as a whole. I really wish they had a reverb knob for each kit piece. Put it right next to the volume and tuning knob when you click on something. That would be amazing. It would honestly be a game changer for ezdrummer in my opinion.
@@DuFFuL I'm guessing they don't want to add too many features to the plugin, so that Superior Drummer will still be relevant. You could always just route the snare to a separate mixing channel and put reverb on the snare though
@@lauridsen1381 I used to that but was looking to simplify my workflow. I guess that's why I've been loving perfect drums so much lately!