I just stumbled on this today, was pleased to see another Pinto Python. Mine has a 4 digit serial number. I had heard that it might have been a salesman's sample. Wish I had the documentation like you have. Great collection !
There are a lot of pintos out there, however, most of them, almost all of them were just guns sent back to Colt to have something done and while there, had nickel added. Did you call Colt and letter it ? It may show up as going back to Colt at some point. Salesman samples exist, but without documentation, there’s no way to add value. Good luck. If it’s a documented early salesman sample… it’s money.
@@vipercollector8011 Thank you for your reply, I'm still working on getting it lettered, had this Colt for about 20 yrs and thought the two tone was done by the original owner until I found out how old the gun was and several stories I read about Pintos
Jeff Sidua - A very beautiful and rare collection. Obviously, the prototype Pythons are EXTREMELY rare, so you do not have to worry about their prices declining with the release of the New Python. Now, if you got a general issue standard production old Python, that is another story. Which is why there are nearly 1,600 of them for sale on Gun Broker. Getting the factory letter from Colt (so what if its a $100 bucks) is a very smart and good move to maintain peak collector's value.
Those are nice, I normally don't like nickel but that last which is basically 2 tone is gorgeous. I have similar in S&W's just because I happened to come across them easier. The Python's were always the holy grails and I didn't want to cough up 6-800 back in the day ( 90's ) at gun shows when the gettin was good, just for shooter grade. I like shooting mine where these need to stay under glass.
Because you are the only one that can document them? I’m confused why not? I have nickel and blue serial number 13 from my grandfather with the same sales sheet and box with a letter from colt like a birth certificate letter. Very interesting stuff here.
Anybody have any guesses to what a 5 gun collection like this is valued at? I’m guessing 45,000$ I could be off by 150,000$ tho I guess. Nice collection sir.
Good vid. How many Python 38's do you think were produced? What's interesting is that the ship date reads Oct 2008, long after the Python ended production.
Only ONE 38 snub nosed Python was made. This was it. It was a prototype. It shipped out in 2008 when Colt sold off the prototypes out of their famed vault.
I have a four inch blued i brought around 1980 i still have the box and i have shot less than fifty rounds through it. i was a spontaneous buy i was just old enough and i said one day i am going to buy me a hand gun but i wonted a smith 29 44 mag but the gun store said good luck so i said let me have the colt and i am glad i did.
Sure, the 29 was very popular and became scarce every time Clint Eastwood did another Dirty Harry movie. Dirty Harry, Magnum Force, the Enforcer and so on. You did better on your investment with that Python though. I tried at one time to have every variation of the Python in every finish. I had over 35 different Python variations at one time and gave up when they started costing $2000 and up. If you add in the Snake Eyes, double diamond, the Stalker and the scope mounted 8 inch hunter varieties , it could wipe out any bank account. I remember buying NIB 8 inch target 38 Pythons for $800 each because nobody wanted them. Ahhhh the good old days.
@@vipercollector8011 I knew very little about guns i remember the salesman said he had a 357 mag that was standard issue for the state patrol and he tried to keep them in stock i brought it and the same holster they used in tan and a box of bullets. i think i still have the box but in 2012 i brought some more bullets for it. i have other guns and i deer hunt but that gun i just let it set in the safe and will most likely never shot it again just look at it. it started it all for me.
So you go to colt to ask for all kinds of paperwork, but when they ask you for a copy....it's a "no"??? If that's right, I hope they refuse all future requests from you.
quinnjim So, you show up to watch a video and immediately judge me on a couple comments. You think you know me and my situation? When I or you for that matter, would like info from Colt, they are happy to take payment over the phone prior to giving you that info. Information is money , my newest internet friend. FYI I’ve spent thousands of dollars trying to retrieve information from Colt. Have you ever purchased a Colt historical letter ? I obviously have as you can see just a few I’ve paid for in my video. Yet, they (Colt) want my intel for free. Doesn’t sound fair to me. Yet you with the itchy keyboard/ trigger finger are quick to judge me and me reasoning. Now the fact is, if I GIVE them my information, my 5 or 6 page info full of important data, they can charge you and everyone else $100 when you call to confirm one of those guns. Think about that before insulting my intelligence with your response. Have a great new year.
@@vipercollector8011 I guess we're just different kinds of people. I see the historical record of Colt as being really important. If I could help make it more complete and accurate, I would. It seems like Colt having the documentation would make your guns more valuable since people might be more willing to believe the factory over your claims. I understand your position since they charge you for the information. Money comes and goes...the history of our most storied brands should be preserved.
1. Nice Pythons, really beautiful collection you have. 2. Chill out its the internet 3. $100 for a factory letter? Fuck them, never hand over anything to them for free. I understand if they have a fee for pulling records and sending a letter (work isn't free) but trying to gouge collectors is bs. I don't know what they are doing with that money but obviously not hiring more customer service reps because getting ahold of Colt is a miracle in and of itself.
@@vipercollector8011 You're right in your response. While it would be great to help Colt upgrade their library, they should provide value to you for it since they're going to use it to sell information to others. Roy Jinks is now charging $100 for an S&W letter if I recall correctly. It used to be $75 up until a short while back. So $100 from Colt doesn't surprise me too much. Outstanding collection by the way!
@@vipercollector8011 I wouldn't be giving Colt anything for free either, Getting anything from them comes with a big cost. You giving them that paperwork kills the value of your copy. Now if they asked you how much you wanted, that would be a little different.
Any coincidence that you're selling a couple of days after Colt announces the reintroduction of the Python? Seems lot's of original Python owners are afraid of dropping values.
Gs Xr N These are currently for sale as a set. Nothing to be afraid as far as the new production hurting the old values. If the new Python is the same quality as the new Cobras, the old Pythons will be even more coveted. I’m sure Colt will never be able to make the new actions anywhere near as nice as the old hand fitted actions.
@@vipercollector8011 I dissagree if Ken Hackathorn says the new Python's are better than the originals then that's enough for me. The trigger is better, the action is more durable and will with stand a steady diet of magnums unlike the originals which were fragile and lost timing, the sights are better the front sight being interchangeable, the stainless is also better, and the frame has been beefed up. Modern CNC machining eliminates the need for hand fitting. What's your take on why there are 435 Python listings on GunBroker right now whereas normal would be 20-40 listenings? Seems the new Python's are already having an effect on the market.
@@gsxr1189 Better in what way If we look at it objectively, the 686 and GP100 are better that the Pythons were in strength and durability with full house 357 magnum loads. However, I would put the hand fitted action of the 100 or so Pythons that I've handled and owned against any one of those straight out of the box. Back when I was shooting, more than once someone would ask what I was shooting when they realized I was not just shooting the target, but actually shooting the small numbers off the target with my Pythons. It's your choice to disagree. I'm sure you've owned and fired samples of most DA revolvers so you can discuss this from your point of view. What's your thought on the other new Colt revolvers ? I would like your opinion, not something Ken Hackathorn says. When the New Python arrives and I have the chance to shoot one, I will be happy to eat my words. If in fact that's the case. Not some sales pitch to get me to buy one. Don't think I don't like Colt's. I do, I love the old Colt's. The new one's have yet to impress me. I'll be a happy camper if the new Python impresses me.
@@vipercollector8011 You want my opinion I think handfitting is completely unnecessary with modern manufacturing methods provided that the manufacturer chooses to produce a product with the tightest possible tolerances. In time we'll see if it's too good to be true but I'd say things are looking up for this new Python. Yes I've shot the old Python's and yes they're sweet guns. Very nice collection you have there you have every reason to be proud of it good luck on your sale.
Jeff Siuda - having shot pre-1960 Colts and a new King Cobra, there is no comparison between the actions. The KC single action trigger pull is very nice but the reset is horribad and DA pull ain’t great. If it’s so easy to make a great trigger with modern manufacturing techniques, why wouldn’t Colt do so on the King Cobra. S&W never stopped making revolvers. They use “modern” manufacturing techniques. I won’t buy anything with a Hillary-hole, but did get a new M&P 340 without the lock a few years ago. Same action as older Smiths but boy did it need some TLC inside to get a smooth trigger pull. Ruger has innovated in manufacturing techniques, including investment cast receivers for shotguns, etc. When did our friend here hear about Colt innovating in manufacturing techniques? I’ve read but can’t confirm that Colt isn’t even making the barrels for the new Pythons and that they are outsourced.
Those “compactified target” grips on the second one are incredible, I wish they made those for the new 3 inch.
What an awesome collection, i am so glad i stumbled on your video. Thank you so much for sharing.
I just stumbled on this today, was pleased to see another Pinto Python. Mine has a 4 digit serial number. I had heard that it might have been a salesman's sample. Wish I had the documentation like you have. Great collection !
There are a lot of pintos out there, however, most of them, almost all of them were just guns sent back to Colt to have something done and while there, had nickel added.
Did you call Colt and letter it ?
It may show up as going back to Colt at some point. Salesman samples exist, but without documentation, there’s no way to add value.
Good luck. If it’s a documented early salesman sample… it’s money.
@@vipercollector8011 Thank you for your reply, I'm still working on getting it lettered, had this Colt for about 20 yrs and thought the two tone was done by the original owner until I found out how old the gun was and several stories I read about Pintos
The first one w/o the ventilated rib reminds me of the Trooper circa 73-74....Great collection.
Thanks for the show n tell. Love it.
Outstanding collection. Thank you.
Jeff Sidua - A very beautiful and rare collection. Obviously, the prototype Pythons are EXTREMELY rare, so you do not have to worry about their prices declining with the release of the New Python. Now, if you got a general issue standard production old Python, that is another story. Which is why there are nearly 1,600 of them for sale on Gun Broker. Getting the factory letter from Colt (so what if its a $100 bucks) is a very smart and good move to maintain peak collector's value.
Those are nice, I normally don't like nickel but that last which is basically 2 tone is gorgeous. I have similar in S&W's just because I happened to come across them easier. The Python's were always the holy grails and I didn't want to cough up 6-800 back in the day
( 90's ) at gun shows when the gettin was good, just for shooter grade. I like shooting mine where these need to stay under glass.
Very nice collection 👌🏽👍🏼🥃
Thanks, I’m lucky to have them.
AMAZING collection. And just think if you ever sell them you could buy the company
Great video on the rare snakes!! Keep it up
Because you are the only one that can document them? I’m confused why not? I have nickel and blue serial number 13 from my grandfather with the same sales sheet and box with a letter from colt like a birth certificate letter. Very interesting stuff here.
Anybody have any guesses to what a 5 gun collection like this is valued at? I’m guessing 45,000$ I could be off by 150,000$ tho I guess. Nice collection sir.
Like $50,000 a pice or a $150,000 a pice 🤤
You’re way off, more like $350,000 if not more.
Good vid. How many Python 38's do you think were produced? What's interesting is that the ship date reads Oct 2008, long after the Python ended production.
Only ONE 38 snub nosed Python was made. This was it. It was a prototype. It shipped out in 2008 when Colt sold off the prototypes out of their famed vault.
I have a four inch blued i brought around 1980 i still have the box and i have shot less than fifty rounds through it. i was a spontaneous buy i was just old enough and i said one day i am going to buy me a hand gun but i wonted a smith 29 44 mag but the gun store said good luck so i said let me have the colt and i am glad i did.
Sure, the 29 was very popular and became scarce every time Clint Eastwood did another Dirty Harry movie. Dirty Harry, Magnum Force, the Enforcer and so on.
You did better on your investment with that Python though.
I tried at one time to have every variation of the Python in every finish.
I had over 35 different Python variations at one time and gave up when they started costing $2000 and up. If you add in the Snake Eyes, double diamond, the Stalker and the scope mounted 8 inch hunter varieties , it could wipe out any bank account.
I remember buying NIB 8 inch target 38 Pythons for $800 each because nobody wanted them.
Ahhhh the good old days.
@@vipercollector8011 I knew very little about guns i remember the salesman said he had a 357 mag that was standard issue for the state patrol and he tried to keep them in stock i brought it and the same holster they used in tan and a box of bullets. i think i still have the box but in 2012 i brought some more bullets for it. i have other guns and i deer hunt but that gun i just let it set in the safe and will most likely never shot it again just look at it. it started it all for me.
So you go to colt to ask for all kinds of paperwork, but when they ask you for a copy....it's a "no"???
If that's right, I hope they refuse all future requests from you.
quinnjim
So, you show up to watch a video and immediately judge me on a couple comments. You think you know me and my situation? When I or you for that matter, would like info from Colt, they are happy to take payment over the phone prior to giving you that info. Information is money , my newest internet friend. FYI I’ve spent thousands of dollars trying to retrieve information from Colt. Have you ever purchased a Colt historical letter ? I obviously have as you can see just a few I’ve paid for in my video. Yet, they (Colt) want my intel for free. Doesn’t sound fair to me. Yet you with the itchy keyboard/ trigger finger are quick to judge me and me reasoning. Now the fact is, if I GIVE them my information, my 5 or 6 page info full of important data, they can charge you and everyone else $100 when you call to confirm one of those guns. Think about that before insulting my intelligence with your response. Have a great new year.
@@vipercollector8011 I guess we're just different kinds of people. I see the historical record of Colt as being really important. If I could help make it more complete and accurate, I would. It seems like Colt having the documentation would make your guns more valuable since people might be more willing to believe the factory over your claims. I understand your position since they charge you for the information. Money comes and goes...the history of our most storied brands should be preserved.
1. Nice Pythons, really beautiful collection you have.
2. Chill out its the internet
3. $100 for a factory letter? Fuck them, never hand over anything to them for free. I understand if they have a fee for pulling records and sending a letter (work isn't free) but trying to gouge collectors is bs. I don't know what they are doing with that money but obviously not hiring more customer service reps because getting ahold of Colt is a miracle in and of itself.
@@vipercollector8011 You're right in your response. While it would be great to help Colt upgrade their library, they should provide value to you for it since they're going to use it to sell information to others.
Roy Jinks is now charging $100 for an S&W letter if I recall correctly. It used to be $75 up until a short while back. So $100 from Colt doesn't surprise me too much.
Outstanding collection by the way!
@@vipercollector8011 I wouldn't be giving Colt anything for free either, Getting anything from them comes with a big cost. You giving them that paperwork kills the value of your copy. Now if they asked you how much you wanted, that would be a little different.
Any coincidence that you're selling a couple of days after Colt announces the reintroduction of the Python? Seems lot's of original Python owners are afraid of dropping values.
Gs Xr
N
These are currently for sale as a set.
Nothing to be afraid as far as the new production hurting the old values.
If the new Python is the same quality as the new Cobras, the old Pythons will be even more coveted.
I’m sure Colt will never be able to make the new actions anywhere near as nice as the old hand fitted actions.
@@vipercollector8011 I dissagree if Ken Hackathorn says the new Python's are better than the originals then that's enough for me. The trigger is better, the action is more durable and will with stand a steady diet of magnums unlike the originals which were fragile and lost timing, the sights are better the front sight being interchangeable, the stainless is also better, and the frame has been beefed up. Modern CNC machining eliminates the need for hand fitting.
What's your take on why there are 435 Python listings on GunBroker right now whereas normal would be 20-40 listenings? Seems the new Python's are already having an effect on the market.
@@gsxr1189 Better in what way
If we look at it objectively, the 686 and GP100 are better that the Pythons were in strength and durability with full house 357 magnum loads.
However, I would put the hand fitted action of the 100 or so Pythons that I've handled and owned against any one of those straight out of the box.
Back when I was shooting, more than once someone would ask what I was shooting when they realized I was not just shooting the target, but actually shooting the small numbers off the target with my Pythons.
It's your choice to disagree. I'm sure you've owned and fired samples of most DA revolvers so you can discuss this from your point of view.
What's your thought on the other new Colt revolvers ?
I would like your opinion, not something Ken Hackathorn says.
When the New Python arrives and I have the chance to shoot one, I will be happy to eat my words. If in fact that's the case. Not some sales pitch to get me to buy one.
Don't think I don't like Colt's. I do, I love the old Colt's.
The new one's have yet to impress me. I'll be a happy camper if the new Python impresses me.
@@vipercollector8011 You want my opinion I think handfitting is completely unnecessary with modern manufacturing methods provided that the manufacturer chooses to produce a product with the tightest possible tolerances. In time we'll see if it's too good to be true but I'd say things are looking up for this new Python. Yes I've shot the old Python's and yes they're sweet guns. Very nice collection you have there you have every reason to be proud of it good luck on your sale.
Jeff Siuda - having shot pre-1960 Colts and a new King Cobra, there is no comparison between the actions. The KC single action trigger pull is very nice but the reset is horribad and DA pull ain’t great. If it’s so easy to make a great trigger with modern manufacturing techniques, why wouldn’t Colt do so on the King Cobra.
S&W never stopped making revolvers. They use “modern” manufacturing techniques. I won’t buy anything with a Hillary-hole, but did get a new M&P 340 without the lock a few years ago. Same action as older Smiths but boy did it need some TLC inside to get a smooth trigger pull.
Ruger has innovated in manufacturing techniques, including investment cast receivers for shotguns, etc. When did our friend here hear about Colt innovating in manufacturing techniques? I’ve read but can’t confirm that Colt isn’t even making the barrels for the new Pythons and that they are outsourced.
Oh. My. God.
*drooling
I wish i win the lotto one day ☹️