2020 Colt Python vs Original Colt Python
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- In this video I compare the characteristic differences between the newly released 2020 Coly Python and an "original" Colt Python from 1982. The classic Python used has a Royal Blue finish and a 4" barrel. The new 2020 Colt Python has a stainless finish and a 6" barrel. I also discuss the historic lineage of the Python and hopefully help buyers identify which option will best fit the "Python hole" in their collection.
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One thing I forgot to mention in the video: Colt released the Python in "satin stainless" in 1984 and "mirror stainless" in 1985. Thanks for watching :-D
And Matt brushed stainless..
Brushed stainless was available in 1980!
You also said you were going to say why you didn't think Colt would make the Gen 2 in blue but I don't believe you ultimately said anything on that in the video.
I would want one older than that the hammer is not one peice with the firing pin. What was the last year for a non lawyer hammer?
The locking up problem is most likely from short strokeing the trigger or mabye a slightly misaligned part
One of the best, most well round, fair, and concise overviews I've seen for this gun.
amen. now.............. do i get one!
@@mrsa101 I probably would...if i could get the deep royal blue...
I began a career in law enforcement in 1973. The department I worked for required that we buy our own revolvers. I chose a Colt Trooper MKIII, 4" barrel, nickel plated. The price was $154.00 at the local gun dealer. I wanted a S&W Model 19 but it was $175 and I couldn't afford it. By comparison they had Colt Pythons available for $225 !!!!!!!
Oddly enough, S&W handguns at the time were being sold for more than retail cost in most places. The Model 19 retailed for $149 but were selling for $175, and that was a blued model. They were in huge demand by police officers as they were lighter and trimmer than the Colt models. FYI...the Model 29 .44 Magnum had a retail cost of about $200 at that time but you couldn't find one anywhere for under $500 (Thanks to "Dirty Harry")
I still have my Trooper MKIII, the box and sales receipt. It is not as good as a Python, not even close, but it is a good sturdy revolver. Somewhere in there I also bought a S&W Model 28, but the Colt was my primary duty revolver. In 1986 the department allowed us the option to carry semi-autos and in 1988 I chose to purchase a Beretta 92FS and qualify with it.
Interesting. I started my career in law enforcement a bit later than you, but carried a Model 66 Smith the first few years. I always thought the Colts were "sexier" guns, particularly the Python, but for some reason always greatly preferred the feel and ergonomics of the Smith revolvers. My S&W Model 66 was $249 when I purchased it in 1981. I wish I had kept it, but after I stopped carrying it on duty I had it converted to a PPC revolver, shot it in competition for a while, then lost interest and sold it. Stupid.
@@johnshaft5613 The stainless guns were new and very expensive in 1973. Certainly out of reach of a broke rookie. They did become more popular with time, but my Nickle plated Colt had stood up well to cold, snowy winters and hot humid summers. So I stuck with it.
I carried 4 duty guns in my career. The Colt Trooper MKIII, a S&W Model 28, a Beretta 92FS and a SIG P228. I also had a S&W 6904 but preferred the SIG.
Both the P228 and S&W 6904 were my duty guns for plainclothes duty from 1990 until I retired in 2009.
We always had to buy our own duty guns from a pre-approved roster and had to qualify with every we gun we carried, even off duty guns. It was against policy to carry any gun (on duty or off) that wasn't "registered" with the department and that you had not qualified with. The choices allowed for off-duty guns were pretty wide open, though.
Over the years I collected a pretty wide variety of off duty guns.
Until 1991 new officers could choose whether to carry a revolver of a semi-auto. After 1991, all new hires had to carry semi autos, again from an approved roster.
I did finally buy a Model 19 a few years into my career, but it is a 2.5" RB model which I used for off duty carry.
I still own and still shoot all of them. My sons will get them when I am "finished using them"
@@garyK.45ACP You had a long career. I started 10 years after you and retired in 2011, only two years after you.
I went S&W 66, Beretta 92SB, Beretta 92 Elite, Sig 226, Glock 17. The Sig and Glock were department issued guns. I was in a unit with a lot of range training and I decided to stop beating up my own gear. Nothing sexy about the Glock but I shot it the best and feel it was the best/most efficient no-nonsense weapon. But they were all great weapons that I had 100% confidence in.
@@johnshaft5613 Yes, 36 years and I loved my career. I would have worked another 10 if I could have. But...fate will take it's cut, and in December, 2009 I had a heart attack while on duty. (No donut jokes! I've heard all of them!)
After a few months of recovery, I was offered a "promotion" to administrative desk duty and chose to retire and go fishing. I wasn't a desk duty kind of guy.
I wasn't too good at being retired at first, but I am pleased to say that I am now an expert!
I believe this is the best review of the 2020 Python I've seen to date. I used to own a 1964 Python with a 4" barrel, but had to sell it when I was out of work. I figured I'd never get another. When Colt announced the 2020 Python, I knew I wanted one. I purchased one about two week ago, and have put 250 flawless rounds of 357 ammo through it over three trips to the range. If there is any difference between the "new" and the "old" I can't remember the old well enough to say (with the exception of the blue finish on the old). Thanks for the good review, and I'm glad I found it.
I just bought a 2022 4.5” colt python it is a beautiful handgun. The action is smooth as silk and haven’t had an issue yet.
As soon as I turn 21 I'm getting the 2020. Have been wantone one for 3 years. Love them sm
Start saving your money and buy the original instead.
No new will be better investment old one are way to high and you shouldn’t shoot old one buy new have fun and it will go up in value and u won’t have as much in it
@@wewd save up 3,000 dollars? Thats unreasonable for a gun. Way too overpriced. I love the old pythons, but c'mon, this person is probably getting what they can afford.
I have been wanting one for as far back as before you were born and I finally got, not 1, but 2, this month. Both the 4.25" and 6" and now loving life!
@@wewdno they have better build quality now and unless you’re a collector it’s not worth getting an old python and shooting it potentially ruining it
It's nice to enjoy a logical review on this subject that is totally devoid of hysterics. Thank you.
This is one of the best 2020 vs classic Python vids I have seen.
Great review...I have an original Python 6 inch blue...best shooting gun I have ever shot.
I own the 6 inch 2020 Python, and I absolutely adore it. There are so many people out there trashing this gun, and frankly, it pisses me off. The fact of the matter is that Colt took a gun that used to be a purely collectable, and used cheaper, more precise modern engineering to produce a more affordable, more shooter friendly version of arguably the best .357 revolver ever made. The biggest complaint is that they aren't hand fitted. People don't seem to realize that they were hand fitted gun out of necessity, because they couldn't produce perfectly mated parts every time like is possible today. Yes, the finish may not be AS refined as the original. That being said, it's because the new one is meant to be shot, and used. Not just put on display in a collectors cabinet. Just my two cents.
Amen to this comment. I own a new 6” Python and the trash people say who DON’T EVEN OWN ONE is unbelievable. Everyone butt-hurt over the way they are made with modern machinery…sorry folks that technology advanced
Great vid. I learned something from it. Mine was built by only 2 craftsmen, kind of cool. Mine is a 1956 6" two tone salesmen gun ( to show the different types of finishes available). Still shoot as smooth as when I got it in 1970.
I used to have a 4 inch Nickel Python and carried it as a deputy sheriff in the 80"s. It was a great gun, but had a timing issue after I carried it for awhile.
I carried a Python on the job in the 1990s, a 1960s state highway patrolman’s retired revolver. I never could keep it in time but I loved it. I went back to school a few years later and sold it to buy books. I never thought I’d get another, as they’re very expensive and it’s unusual to see them under 2000 bucks. Got lucky recently and found one for retail, and got it. It reminds me very much of the one I carried, same smooth trigger action and balance, maybe a bit heavier. It’s better than the original one I had for reliability. I’m glad they are back and that I managed to get one.
Great comparison video. I love my 2020 Python(0018**). Great fit/finish and functions flawlessly. I’ve heard of problems some have had with theirs, but I personally have had zero issues with mine. Great gun.
I've had light primer strikes with ammo with harder primers but Colt fixed the problem right away and now it's a fantastic gun.
Nathan D do you happen to know what date the started implementing the changes?
@@zachmcclintock2041 I'm not sure but there is a video on here that shows the markings located under the cylinder if it has had the upgrades.
@@zachmcclintock2041 Here is the video Colt released addressing the problem. ruclips.net/video/vSBuhMC5JLA/видео.html
Nathan D thanks
Outstanding review!!! Very informative. I just bought the 2024 Colt Python Blued. Can't DROS for another 60 days but it is worth the waite. Thanks again for an oustanding video. GB
6:11: "Reproduction"
The original manufacturer CANNOT make a "reproduction," only and extension of production, yet even so, the NEW Python is NOT a "reproduction" but an entirely NEW revolver with upgrades and advancements in metallurgy, CAD/CAM, and advanced powered steels that are far superior to traditional forgings or castings! The NEW Python is definitely NOT a "reproduction" but an IMPROVED version of the original model!
You're right. Even if it were identical, the proper term is "reissue," not reproduction. @SmallArmsSolutions made the point, and I agree, the revolver is different and should be the Python II or Python, Mark I, or some distinction in the name.
Just bought the new python 4.25. Carried the original in the 70’s. Had issues with lite primer strikes so traded it for a model 19 S&W.. I also have the 686 and the 586. All great revolvers!
Not to mention my age but I remember when the Python was introduced in 1955 along with the 2nd generation Colt SAA. Both listed for $125. That was a lot of money at the time. Many of the later one's didn't have the great butter smooth action of the earlier one's, but with a little judicious stoning could easily be slicked up to 1955 standards. Back in 1955 some real quality revolvers were available like some models of the S&W magnums, but the Python really stood out with that lugged barrel and beautiful royal blue finish. I've got three originals now, but in my youth I could only dream of owning one. If I got a bonus or a raise the first thing that came to mind in later years was, WOW a new Python! This new version looks and feels nice. I wish they were more generally available. I definitely want one!
Good review, but I was hoping on seeing the internal differences by viewing the mechanisms as there are some reported changes. Also, I was hoping on getting the trigger pull weight comparison in Double Action, as that is what a revolver is usually shot in.
Buy your own and tear your own apart u knob
@@mattjohnson8090 I made the mistake of buying a new King Cobra. The double action trigger was bad and the reset was horrible. I opened it up and found a dumbed down version of the Colt v-spring action with a chipped hand. 😢
I am going to be buying a 1978 6 inch Python from a buddy of mine. It's in beautiful condition for It's age and the bluing is really nice. Has the original grips and a nice leather holster. I am really excited to get my hands on it. I've always wanted one. It has one of the smoothest triggers I've ever felt, especially on single action.
If you have a chance to buy one I highly recommend it!
I JUST got my brand new Colt Python 4.25" and I`m in love. The only thing I don`t care for is the cylinder release that pull=s back rather than pushing, but I`ll gladly adapt. And if I had been able to get a blued model, I`d have gone that route, but these are entirely insignificant issues. I`ll take her out very soon to ensure she shoots and functions well.
I've been set on getting the 6" but the 4.25" is nagging me too. While it wouldn't look as good as the original Python bluing, a 4.25" blackish finish, like on their Night Cobra, would be really tempting.
@@MrSmith-zy2bp C`mon, NOTHING comes close to the new Colt Python. I LOVE my new Colt Python SS 4.24". I get that for the originalist's the original Pythons were the bomb, it1s a new day.
@@HarryCallahan-c8e Dude, reread what I wrote. I'm talking about the bluing done on guns 50 years ago. I'm in the camp that the revisions on the new Python makes it a more robust and durable design. But nobody can do the old bluing finish that were put on the old guns. It's high artwork that can't be reproduced anymore.
Best comparison I’ve seen yet! Nice job!
The old Python hammer is better looking than the new python hammer!
They really screwed that up but other than that I would have kept the same trigger design too. I just ordered one a couple days ago for close to MSRP so I couldn't pass it up. Should be here after the weekend, can't wait.
agreed, the checkered look is better.
just got mine today, wish it was nickel but looks good in lightly buffed stainless, worth the investment.
I agree that the newer Python will very likely increase in value, as the years roll by. However, the same will definitely be true for the Classic vintage Python as well. Either way, I say "shoot 'em, if ya got 'em... treat 'em kindly, but shoot 'em."
The grips on the new gun appear to be Altamont's "Super Walnut" which is really laminated Birch with a Walnut stain. I don't have a problem with this as I actually think they are more attractive than the solid Walnut grips. And anyone familiar with AKs knows that laminated Birch is a really tough material.
Colt is calling them "Walnut". They are not.
@@bubbajones5905 Kimber does the same thing with the "Walnut" grips on their K6s DASA. While I think Altamont's "Super Walnut" is at least as attractive and desirable as real Walnut, I think they should be honest. Ruger and Smith & Wesson refer to such grips on their guns as "Checkered Hardwood" and "Textured Wood" respectively.
@@shwesq I guess that's what bugs me. Why can't they just be honest?
I have several of the “Classics” Python from 1967 to early 80’s
They all shoot like a dream and The action is very smooth!
New Python = Bling
Old Python = Life Insurance
Have you shot the 2020 Python Chris ?
Any problems ?
There has been word of lite primer strikes and a problem with the cylinder stoping it’s normal rotation..
Love your channel Bro !!
Fire ........ Arm. Your pause when you say it cracks me up every time!
Never had a Python, but once had a " tuned" Police Positive .38 Special that had an incredibly smooth trigger pull. If you've ever owned a gun like that, you never forget it! 😉
Im from Indianapolis, just bought my first colt today, it was the 2020 6".
My middle name is Colt, too 😅
The one I own is 1961 it has the smoothest action I have ever felt!!
Yess!! Mine is from 1965. At this time the Python was nearly handmade including finishing/polishing of the inner mechanics. At the end of the 70th Colt stopped this extraordinary finishing. It was the "dead" of the famous Python. So this comparison is not what i wanted to see. Compare the 2020 Python with on of the 60th or beginning 70th and i will be very VERY interested!!!!!!!
i have a late 1969 and it has the smoothest and best trigger of any gun i own
Excellent, thorough review. Thanks. I have seen original snake guns in box selling for over $4k.
It was interesting reading all the comments from people who think the 2020 python is going to lower the value of the older ones. I’m not taking anything away from the new release but classic is classic and history is history.
My 1970 Python has a few thousand rounds through it with no timing issues. Back in the say I seen one or two that did that were beat to death.
Absolutely a great review. Thank you.
Excellent back story and video overall.
I was at a large gun shop that had 5 original Pythons in stock. Checking the actions by slowly cocking the hammer, 3 were out of time. This was quite a common occurrence with all Colt DA revolvers from the same time period and the main reason many preferred Smith & Wesson revolvers. Hopefully with the new action the timing won't be an issue like with the old ones. Regardless I'm buying a new one to go along with my originals. So I thank Colt for bringing back the snake guns.
The thing about old Colts is that you can't judge their timing on the same basis as Smith & Wesson revolvers. Because of the two-stage pawl, Colt revolvers don't always lock up until the hammer is either fully cocked or the trigger is pulled and held all the way to the rear. I own a New Service Target in .44 S&W Special, which locks up at the same time the hammer is cocked. My grandfather owns a Police Positive Special that does not lock up completely until the trigger is held to the rear. While it may seem dangerous or unusual when compared to S&W revolvers, it's actually quite normal and fine, as long as the cylinder does not advance too far or not far enough, and you start shaving lead. That being said, Colt revolvers are generally more prone to wearing of the pawl because of the way it functions, but as long as you are able to keep the pawl maintained when it starts to wear, the rest of the mechanism will last forever. Colt designed the revolvers to have a pawl that bears the brunt of the wear, rather than S&W, where the hand, cylinder stop, and extractor star bear that wear more evenly.
The new Python internally seems more similar to S&W revolvers in that the cylinder stop is actuated by the trigger, rather than the rebound lever. While this doesn't necessarily mean that the pawl will wear more slowly, it does mean that the cylinder stop will be much easier to maintain and replace, since it is not buried totally at the back of the action like the older guns were.
@@isaiahmadrid6738 A properly times Colt will always look up when the hammer is fully cocked. If it doesn't it's out of time. True when you pull the trigger it will lock up but that actually increases the trigger pull. I've even seen S&Ws go out of time but it's much more common in older Colts.
Smith&Wesson doesn’t make such smooth action revolvers like oldies anymore
I had a '70's era Python that was just gorgeous. Used it and enjoyed it. Decided I could get 2 Smith's for the same cost so I sold it to a friend. Silly me! I think I paid $480 at the time. I will definitely be looking at a new 4.25" Python when they are available locally. Great review!
@Jerrol Hale I will do that. Thanks! I saw some of the reviews also and was surprised they made it out of the factory like that.
Great video
I love the Colt Python and Original Colt Python revolvers.
The cool factor is over the top.own a 81 ,8" barrel.dont shoot it much,to valuable.
Thank you very much for this video.
Something that interests me: Gunsmith's skill + old machines vs. accuracy of the modern ones.
Decades back you made parts and had skilled people to make final adjustments to make it work perfectly despite small tolerances.
Now you may have extremely precise machines to do it for you. How much are still craftsmen needed for the final tuning of the parts?
Wonderful informative video. These are amazing guns. I remember seeing a message from someone in Russia, that sad…” you are so lucky to live in a free country where you can go and buy a gun“
There is something about the colt python, when I picked one up I could just feel that it was different and well-made
I have a 1956 Python 2 tone. Only time I had a miss fire was with cheap ammo.
Great review! Thank you.
As an owner of a CP circa 1977ish, I have 2 questions:
1. Is there any over travel in the trigger
at full draw?
2. Is there any wiggle in the cylinder
when you hold the trigger at full draw?
Thank you again.
I think the new python is better the old one as good as it was was not a shooter without maintenance and replacement parts I know the new one is a shooter and will not require any of the upkeep of the old one if your shooting competitions and not just shooting 59 a year or two
Very good review. Like you, I have both. My classic is significantly better than my new one. For and finish and attention to detail is where the classic really shines. That being said if I didn’t have a Python I’d get the new one over the old mainly due to the price unless I was buying to collect in which case the classic is the only way to go.
Bought a Anaconda .44M couple of months ago. Have probably run close to 8-900 rounds through it and it function perfect. I have a Ruger Red Hawk and a S&W Mod 29-10 in the same caliber. The Ruger and the Anaconda is very much on pair on various measurements, but the Anacona have a much longer cylinder. The Smith is the lightweight her and all measurements on the Smith is ''skinnier'' than both the Ruger and Anaconda. The Ruger has ticker cylinder walls than both and have a beefier crown where the forcing cone is threaded into the frame. Not by much but slightly beefier than the colt. Love all these guns, the trigger on the S&W with a pre staged hammer is unbeatable. The Ruger has the heaviest hammer and trigger of all these. The hammer rub against the frame giving it a small gritty feeling staging the hammer with the thumb. No such thing on the Smith and the Colt. All guns are just as accurate as the others.
Great video - thank you for the history lesson! I'm not really comparing the new ones to the old (I'm not a collector) but rather to what Smith & Wesson and Ruger are offering. The real question for me is whether these are worth the premium you'd pay over a new GP100 or 686.
Excelent review. I learned a lot. Thanks!
Nice thorough comparison review.. well done. 😎👍
I agree with @SmallArmsSolutions, Colt really should have labeled the new one the Python II, or Mark I, or something to clarify the version difference.
Personally I disagree. Take a 1965 mustang , a 1973 mustang and a 2022 mustang, they are all still mustangs. You may think more highly of 1 vs the others but that doesn’t change their lineage.
Thanks for the review. Can you compare the triggers after about 2000 rounds through the 2020 Python? Thanks in advance.
Very well done video. I would really like to see someone open these guns up to compare the innards. I own three 6" Pythons and did my own trigger pull with a Wheeler digital based on six pull average and was surprised by the results. '84 Stainless, '79 blue, '76 Nickel was dbl action 7.14, 8.11 & 10.88 lbs. Single action 2.3, 3.14 & 2.09 lbs. I have posted a video of a friend shooting all three. I guess the results have to do with just how much the gun is shot. The Nickel seems to be the one with the lesser rounds coming in at a double action of over 10 lbs but the single action was just at 2 lbs. You may want to revisit the trigger pull after shooting and do multiple pulls for an average. Thanks again for sharing.
My 1967 Nickel 4" has a trigger in SA of 2 lb 6 oz and in DA it's 7 lbs 12 oz.
Im dealing now with light primer strike in DA in my'95 Python
The ratchet of the cylinder was also changed from the original. The problem with the original Python is if and when the timing of the cylinder wears there may not be any parts available from Colt let alone a skilled gunsmith or assembler to fit a new hand to rotate the cylinder which is not the same as the new 2020 Python.
Great Review and Comparison. Since Colt is offering this new Model Python in 6 inch and 4 1/4 inch barrels do you think that the older Pythons will come down in price some?
John Deere X758 - I don’t think anyone is trying to take anything away from the older pythons but it’s a fair question based solely on supply and demand.
The price of the older pythons may drop a little at first as the market stabilizes with some potential buyers of the old pythons perhaps going for a new one but all in all something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it and I think the demand for the older pythons will continue to stay steady and even increase.
No
What are the differences right off the shelf. Well price for sure. Also the actual hand work done with the originals. There was a lot of fitting and honing on the early models.
I still prefer my 80's Python. But if I were to purchase one today I would most likely purchase a new one. The vintage ones are in the thousands.
Now that they have fixed the cylinder issue the new ones are pretty nice. I would purchase a 4 inch stainless. Or shall I say 4 1/4 inch to make it legal for Canada.
They however are more expensive then vintage S&W revolvers. And Smith and Wesson makes some nice revolvers and their vintage pinned and recessed are very nice.
Lucky for me I have what I want so I do not have to worry about it.
excellent review.
Great video. Probably just saved me some money.
Finally the video I’ve been waiting for.
Hammer trigger are made in small parts there .they outsource, most of the parts, and only make @30 percent in house,
Nothing like seeing a ‘Smokey’ State Trooper in that rimmed hat carrying a blued Colt Python.
I would like to see a comparison of these against the MKIII and MKV.
The problem is theirs alot of people that has way to much money in thier colt pythons as a investment well the 2020 colt python killed alot of the value in the older one I keep hearing hand fitting thats useless compared to the machining today I own both older one and a new one but I'm a realist the new one is a way better gun and those who try to protect thier investment to bad they had a little problem with a screw and I herd the complaint of the adjustable rear sight easy fix call colt they will fix it no questions ask nothin compared to the problems of the older ones also by the way colt came out with a 2024 blued python which I have seen one absolutely beautiful gun I'm sure thier will be some colt drama over this one liked your video thanks.
I’ll take a GP 100 Colt is a good gun but a GP I think a little bit
We shall see how the new CZ Pythons fair as collector items.
Great overview of the pythons , enjoyed the video
Great comparison 👍
I have a 1978 Python Royal Blue 4” brand new in box (factory test fired only). I can’t bring myself to shoot it. Paid $368 for it in 1988.
I believe from now on, I will refer to them as Generation I and Generation II Pythons respectively.
A few new videos out there shows the Colt Python malfunctioning, in one video the trigger is squeezed but the cylinder doesn't turn in another video the trigger is squeezed the cylinder turns but the hammer doesn't move.
Hickok45 and GoldenWebb both posted videos of malfunctioning pythons.
That is a deal breaker. I decided to buy vintage. I bought a near pristine Python made in 1970.
When problems arose with Smith & Wesson's new classic line and there were videos of the 586 having problems. That was a deal-breaker for me too.
So I bought a 586 that was manufactured in 1980. It was a very good condition as well.
I suspect the market will get tighter on the vintage Pythons as more problems arise and reported with the new pythons.
It's already very difficult to find vintage Smith & Wesson revolvers.
The long gone engineers, gunsmiths and quality control testers will be turning in their graves at what their former, great companies are churning iut!
They seemed to have fixed the issues
You briefly touched on the new internals/lock work on the new Python, does the redesign appear to correct the potential timing issues of the old Python? Obviously time will be the best indicator, but I did not know if the lock work redesign showed an obvious improvement or showed increased durability or strength compared to the old.
The biggest cause of timing issues of the original Python was wearing of the pawl. From what little I've seen of the new Python's internals, the pawl seems to function much the same way as the originals did, but the cylinder stop is now actuated by the trigger, rather than the rebound lever as on the originals, much more similar to the way that Smith & Wesson revolvers work in that area. The pawl also seems to have been beefed up in the areas of both the upper point and lower shelf, which should increase service life. While I would guess that the pawl is still meant to take most of the wear in the system when it comes to rapid double-action firing (which is generally the biggest cause of timing issues on the older guns), the cylinder stop will be easier to maintain and replace at the very least. I also imagine that Colt is using much stronger and higher quality materials to manufacture these critical components, given advances in metallurgy. That alone should help to increase the service life of these components.
@@isaiahmadrid6738 good to know, thank you for the information.
Worked there for@6 years
I know they were recalled soon after the release in January for having Cylinder Timing Problems where the cylinder would not turn. They also had a rough barrel end, Since then I have been waiting for them to be re-released so that I could order one and purchase one. Does anyone know where I can get one? It is now in the beginning of July 2020.
You still looking?
Pythons are cool as hell but I'm more of a Smith guy on revolvers
I'm a a Colt / Smith / Ruger, and yes I've even got a couple of Taurus and Rossi revolvers. My Smith 686+ and my 1976 blue Python are my favorites though. The 686+ has had some work done and it's my best for double action shooting.
going to purchase my first revolver...any opinions on what i should get?? Considering Ruger 10mm 4in, SW 586, King cobra Target 2020, or wait after the recall on the pythons??
kong xiong it depends on what you want to do with it. The Smith has a shorter trigger than Ruger. Ruger will handle overcharged heavy loads better. I don’t own the colt but sounds like a fine gun. If you want fast, go with smith. Smith is easy to tune.
I disagree in the fact that anyone will ever want to collect anything made in this time from cars to guns but very good video.
FANTASTIC REVIEW! I'm definitely in the market for a Colt Python. Thank you!
You did an excellent job in the overview of this . but I am very disappointed in Colts production and release of this weapon. When you pull the trigger on a revolver it should fire and it should turn the cylinder! Right now, you're comparing a Rolls-Royce and a Ford Pinto. Colt needs to go back and rethink putting the python name on this weapon
Great review
Very well put together video, and one of the best pistol reviews I have seen to date. Fantastic.
I have zero Colt firearms personally, and the romance and rarity of the vintage Colt Python revolvers are the main attraction imo, and this has none of that. But, to each their own. I would just save up some cash for the real deal, and cry later when I cannot afford Taco Bell.
Hopefully Colt will address the issues on the Python just like Pietro Beretta did with the M9 back when it was in it's early production.
Beretta was garbage.
LOL, all of these people complaining about..."Not hand fitted!"... know nothing about manufacturing. It's a good thing! Get it through your brains.
no one seems too remember the 10 year warranty on the old pythons?? what is warranty on new pythons??
Good point my friend.
The warranty on the new one doesn't look to be worth the paper it's printed on!
Mine is very nice, the rear sight however is junk an I replaced mine with a Wilson combat sight!!!
BRAVO!!! Well done!!!
I own two 6 inch new pythons I'm 64 so my kids will benefit if they sell them, I also today just found a 4inch early eighties python blued for sale for $1500 should I buy it or is the trimming issues with them not worth it.
Colt we have CNC machines we don't have to hand fit any longer.😦
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why not saying old and new??? BTW does the new version sell with a 4" barrel as well?
Judging by a couple of other videos out there of guys having problems with these (light primer strikes) I'm guessing Colt put hammer springs that were too light. I doubt that the trigger and lock work would feel as nice as it does had they put the needed heavier spring in. As for the other problem hickock45 and a few others have - cylinder not turning - I have no clue.
Overall, I think Colt did a decent job of making something that resembles a Python. But, the new Pythons aren't anywhere near as refined as the old ones were. Anyone can see that Colt cut corners where they could (fluting on the grip frame).
The technology and metallurgy that were used to make the new Pythons is no different than Smith and Wesson's 686. And for about $600 less, you can purchase a Performance Center 686 that is, in all actuality, better made. Smith has already worked out the bugs in their guns. Frankly, I think Colt is trying to capitalize on the Python name to bring them out of financial troubles. Colt has been around for better than 150 years. They're known for making decent revolvers. And, in this day and age, making a revolver that goes "bang" every time should be a no-brainer for Colt. There shouldn't have been any problems with these new Pythons.
As much as I wanted to get one of the new Pythons, I think I'll pass. It's WAY overpriced for what it is.
It's pretty obvious you were never going to buy one regardless of what Colt did or did not do with any of their new guns. Perhaps if you won't put your money where your mouth is, don't be slamming a gun and its maker (Colt, Taurus, Ruger, S&W, or who ever) when you have NEVER even seen the New Python. I own both the New Python and the S&W 686 Talo edition and the New Python is way ahead of what S&W is currently doing. Again, I own both so I have spent the money and have real direct experience and knowledge BEFORE I post a comment.
@@smithn.wesson495 I'm so happy I have someone like you who can tell me what I'm thinking. Don't know what I'd do without you! Thanks bud!
I wasn't "slamming" anyone any more than anyone else. I didn't do this to Colt. I didn't design the new "Python". Colt did. So, why are you so defensive over them? Agenda? It's pretty obvious that Colt has some problems here. They also have financial problems. It's no secret. It's also no secret that revolvers have been being made for over 150 years. So, why can't Colt manage to make one that they've (according to their own promo video) "spent over 5 years developing"?
EVERY company cuts corners where they can. Colt is no different. And they cut corners on the new Python. It's OBVIOUS they did.
As an owner of a 3 year old Colt Defender, a 1-1/2 year old LE6920, and a 42 year old Python, I think I've supported Colt and their products. Of their proven guns, I'm a fan. And, yes. There are LOTS of us who own original Pythons who would be HAPPY to purchase a new (but different) Python - IF Colt had done them right. So far, they haven't.
As for "putting your money where your mouth is", why should I? Why should I go out and buy a gun that within its first 2 weeks of release already has MAJOR problems? Even their own promotional video shows a cylinder failing to rotate.
ruclips.net/video/u9erYCGjmi0/видео.html at 1:43
These were KNOWN issues. Colt HAD to have known there was a serious QC or design flaw.
Now, tell me I'm wrong.
@@billiards0518 All the opinions folks have on the New Python without ever seeing one in person shows nothing but ignorance and desperation. Yes, this statement includes you. Colt has sold over 3,000 New Pythons and there has been 2 known mechanical issues with the cylinder. That is 0.00067%. So....a single fraction of percent within the first 2 weeks has MAJOR problems? Perhaps Hickok45 and other RUclipsrs should put out 2, 5 or 10 videos every single time Ruger, Taurus, S&W, Remington and Glock mess up a single gun. Why don't you put out comments slamming other guns that you have never seen in person? No gun is perfect and no gun maker is going to make every single gun 100% perfect, 100% of the time. Common sense tells you there is always going to be a few mistakes per thousands of products made. "If Colt had done them right. .So far, they haven't" - Again, your ignorance and desperation shows because you refuse to even consider the other side of the fence and the thousands of New Pythons that have been sold that have no issues. (Ohhh....well, gee...you don't even want to talk about that....) If Colt even had 10% of the problems with the New Python as you are trying to make it sound, there would be so many thousands of pictures and videos posted by now, nobody could watch them all. Colt has financial problems.....really? I am sure glad you know more than their CEO does because I am 100% sure you do not have any of their financial statements in hand. If you can actually prove Colt's financial status, post a link. Now you have gone from ignorance and desperation to being a bold face liar. "Now, tell me I'm wrong" - I don't have too, you said and proved it yourself.
@@smithn.wesson495
Colt's promotional video:
ruclips.net/video/u9erYCGjmi0/видео.html at 1:43
Cylinder doesn't turn.
GoldenWebb's video:
ruclips.net/video/y0dJPxXmhtc/видео.html
Cylinder doesn't turn, light primer strikes.
Hickock45's video:
ruclips.net/video/7dO-lQEX49U/видео.html
Cylinder doesn't turn.
DannyBrassCo's video:
ruclips.net/video/93had1BpJQs/видео.html
Light primer strikes and finish issues.
Read through the comments on both Hickock45's video and GoldenWebb's video. There are numerous people also reporting that their new Pythons are also doing the same thing. Not everyone posts on RUclips. Law of averages would state that if Colt has put out over 3000 new Pythons and only TWO are known to have issues, what are the chances that THOSE TWO guns would end up on RUclips? What are the chances that Hickock45 would end up with one of THE ONLY TWO GUNS TO HAVE ISSUES??? No, dude. This is a problem with the design of the gun. Their own promotional video shows THE EXACT SAME PROBLEM OCCURRING!
As for Colt's financial problems... They filed bankruptcy in 2015. They've filed bankruptcy TWICE in the last 20 years. Yes. They have financial problems. EVERY investor who's looked into putting money into them knows this.
Not even a gun related website. But, a financial website with their financial assessment of Colt:
www.investopedia.com/articles/markets/071315/why-colt-went-out-business.asp
www.nasdaq.com/articles/historic-gun-maker-colt-files-bankruptcy-what-about-its-competitors-stocks-news-2015-06-15
You say that Hickock45 and others should put out a video of all the times Taurus, Ruger, Glock, etc... mess up? Well, we aren't talking about those companies. Are we? We're talking about Colt. We're talking about Colt making a gun they're charging $1500 for that has documented issues. We aren't talking about a $500 Glock or a $600 Ruger or a $400 Taurus. We're talking about a firearm company who has been making guns for 180 years, selling a double-action revolver for $1500, and can't manage to get the bugs worked out of them BEFORE they send them out for sale.
You're vehemently defending a company that has been traded off and sold countless times! The company that made the original 1911, Python, Peacemaker, and others is NOT the same company of today. You're giving them excuses when none are deserved. YOU'RE the one sounding desperate. As a matter of fact, you sound like a shill for Colt. You're going into personal attacks when no one has personally attacked you. Why? THAT is a sign of desperation. Are you so filled with rage and emotion that it's blinded you to reality? Are you so emotionally attached to these new guns that you have to lash out at anyone who points out the differences and flaws within the new ones?
Maybe you should see a councilor and get all your anger issues out before you decide to reply. Because, the hostility isn't boding well for you.
@@smithn.wesson495 By the way... Your math is WAY off.
If 1% of the (as you've said) 3000 Pythons made ends up in the hands of someone who posts on RUclips, and 3 videos show up with defective guns, that means Colt has a 10% defect rate.
1% of 3000 = 30
So far, there are 3 videos showing defective guns: Hickock45's video, GoldenWebb's video, and Colt's promotional video. That's 3 out of 30. Or, 10%.
I'll give Colt the benefit of the doubt and say that their defect rate is somewhere between 5% and 10%. Even if it's lower than 5%, let's say it's 2-3%, that's still an unacceptable number for a company who has been making revolvers for 180 years.
These guns have sold for over $500-$700 over retail. If you can find one at the MSRP, I'd say buy it.
Bought mine for 1575.00 excellent fit and finish trigger is smooth gun is awesome.
In 1983 I asked my brother-in-law if he had a pistol he could sell me. He said he had a Colt Python or a Beretta. $300 for whichever one I wanted. I passed. 😒
Do you think they will be releasing a blued version?
Apples and Oranges here. They new version is at best, a replica of the real deal.
Hi been a fan of your channel for awhile was wondering if you can give me an idea of what my colt python mite be worth I know you can be more accurate if you saw it but I’m just looking to see what it mite be worth it was made in 1977 I got it from the original owner it’s immaculate condition not scratch on the gun at all looks like it was never fired and I mean not a scratch not even in the cylinder or on the cylinder from rotation all original even the grips the finish looks like blue chrome like I said was wondering what it mite be worth thanks for your time
0:45 that didn’t age well.
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Why don’t you think the new ones will also be offered with a blue finish?
Not the same company anymore, as Colt was bought out by CZ- which I think is a good thing.