I have and love both trucks. The Pro is slightly better planted and less prone to "overflex" on the really off camber stuff. The VRD has better belly clearance and more flex...which can be a huge help or a small hinderance. Thanks for a great comparison and I would love to see a gated course competition with these to platforms.
I feel by having the servo on top of axle with the VRD and the stubby kit with the revolver defeats the purpose of the kit because if you are running a full size motor the stock kit moves the weight forward now the weight is further back and higher.
Both of my flyskys ask me if I want to factory reset every time I power it on. Also, sometimes the steering will get "sticky" and not return to center. Although I love my gt5 for the price!
Had my Flysky do that crap a few times. Only way to keep it from reseting has been to turn the controller off and back on again and not touch yes or no. Hope this helps you in the future🤘✌️, love the content
I’d love to see these bad boys running cones. This video was perfect for me! You had the swampers vs krawlers and you gave the motor breakdown! Great video. I feel those hot days man. I’m a 11-12 o clock driver. 😅
In my opinion, it all depends what terrain you are running, to use portals or straights...but the good thing about portals is that you can run 4.2" tires in a class 2 comp to bring the rig down.
Great video Logan! I just use pen springs inside my front shocks on the shock shaft with lighter oil. Works awesome and no bands needed. Currently experimenting with the pen springs in the rear for side hilling.
I was quite unhappy with my Pro. It was unnecessary heavy with that stock gearbox and it had to low clearance. The pro axles got donated to a Arthfull Dodgers Pathfinder and o man what a difference. having a more forward skid and clearance makes.
The problem on vrd is the ride height on stock configuration,i’m changed the shocks in the links holes and use stock shocks with Mini t spring and pen spring
@@westdesertwheeler that’s what I’ll do if they don’t release one soon. I know they released both versions of the phoenix so I thought maybe they’d do the same with the vrd. I have the carbon kit and absolutely love it.
Have you tried running the under driver ring and pinion set in front and rear of the vrd. May lower torque twist enough to make that line you can't do with the vrd yet. Keep that front right down a little more.
Seems like the wheel tire set on the vrd needs to be put on the pro. I have neither of these but super scrubbed in KRAWLERS g8 from 2018 maybe. What I do have is a scx10ii base full rock pirate interceptor build even their bed I’d like to see that compared. Not sure if you have any of those left I don’t really care what axle is underneath them.
@@westdesertwheeler right I know nit picking content is awesome so thank you , what I’m saying is that swapping over to the stubby kit without also doing BTA probably hurts more than it helps considering weight distribution. the stubby kit moves part of the transmission backwards to make room for the BTA setup. With the standard setup the motor and spur are more forward so it makes up for the servo being higher up on the chassis. So with the stubby kit and SOA you have more weight higher and also backwards on the chassis than you would with the BTA setup
13:27 wouldn't this be a portal vs strait axle thing due to tourque twisting being on the opposite side of the truck one vs the other? I have always been curious about this haha I wonder if you changed vrd to strait axles and see if or how much that Crack 15:30 would change
Nice comparison. Building my VRD now and following it up with the pro. It didn't look like you had limiting straps in the back. Have you ever run them on all 4 corners. I only run them in the front. Just curious if you have?
@ west desert wheeler: I'm thinking about whether I should get the scx10 pro, vrd or Capra 4ws. what would you recommend. I'm excited about your videos. I want maximum options. But I also drive through forest mud everywhere, etc.
Great content! I'm always watching the videos you upload (best rc channel out there imo). To your experience/knowledge what would be the best rtr for rock crawling? I own a 1/10 fms fj40 but I really want to get crazy on the rocks with some suicide lines, what you recommend me? Thanks in advance Logan.
The reason it has servo on top of axle is because that’s closer to how it comes in the kit. The stubby alone makes little difference with a small light motor
10:37 you couldnt just say no to the factory reset? you make it sound like you had to do a factory reset then figure out a way to bind it without a bind plug
I turned it on and immediately hit enter so I could select and change model, the controller turned on and immediately asked if I wanted to reset, I didn’t read the screen I was relying on it to work correctly
Holmes HOBBIES not hobby. Always bugged me when I worked there when people get that wrong, because JRH has multiple hobbies and used to sell quite a bit of e-bike stuff as well.
I really wish i had a good place to crawl. I really like the freedom and creativity of building these rigs. They're just useless and boring to me. I am currently working on my own "exoplex" RC playground on 15 acres i don't use but no big pile of rocks yet. These also seem a lot more affordable. At the very least you don't break expensive parts often compared to bashing. My TRX6 and SCX6 are my only 2 crawler type rigs and least modded. The Traxxas is my only bone stock truck. They're also my least driven. They're just not much to do at 10 mph or less on a bunch of flat ground.
I have and love both trucks. The Pro is slightly better planted and less prone to "overflex" on the really off camber stuff. The VRD has better belly clearance and more flex...which can be a huge help or a small hinderance. Thanks for a great comparison and I would love to see a gated course competition with these to platforms.
I feel by having the servo on top of axle with the VRD and the stubby kit with the revolver defeats the purpose of the kit because if you are running a full size motor the stock kit moves the weight forward now the weight is further back and higher.
I was running BTA with my aluminum F10s I swapped axles for this test to be closer to stock kit form
Great content! It’s amazing what these trucks can do these days. The hobby has come a long way!
Thanks!
Both of my flyskys ask me if I want to factory reset every time I power it on. Also, sometimes the steering will get "sticky" and not return to center. Although I love my gt5 for the price!
Same here
A body clip will work as a bind plug in a situation like that.
I have done it many times.
Had my Flysky do that crap a few times. Only way to keep it from reseting has been to turn the controller off and back on again and not touch yes or no. Hope this helps you in the future🤘✌️, love the content
Mine started doing that a month or so ago. It seems like every 5-6 power ons.
Would enjoy seeing both trucks run gates back to back, yes.
I’d love to see these bad boys running cones. This video was perfect for me! You had the swampers vs krawlers and you gave the motor breakdown! Great video. I feel those hot days man. I’m a 11-12 o clock driver. 😅
In my opinion, it all depends what terrain you are running, to use portals or straights...but the good thing about portals is that you can run 4.2" tires in a class 2 comp to bring the rig down.
I think the change in geometry can partially be attributed to the portal axles having a different leverage point on the link/chassis.
Great video Logan!
I just use pen springs inside my front shocks on the shock shaft with lighter oil. Works awesome and no bands needed.
Currently experimenting with the pen springs in the rear for side hilling.
Your pen springs are limiting your overall travel in the shock the deez bands don’t
Always build my cars and trucks, love the comparison in real world thank you Logan
The Holmes 1800kv 540m with the v3 esc is my overall favorite. I’m hooked on 4s, the fusion pro is suddenly outdated
I support this message lol
Great video Logan! Really enjoyed the comparison, especially in that amazing terrain.🤘🏻
I really want the v3 1800m combo for my scx10 pro and pull my fusion out
I was quite unhappy with my Pro. It was unnecessary heavy with that stock gearbox and it had to low clearance. The pro axles got donated to a Arthfull Dodgers Pathfinder and o man what a difference. having a more forward skid and clearance makes.
I love the idea of your buggy having a wrap like your vrd! Bring in the Redcat too. Great content Logan!
That’s a possibility I think it might show the Redcat has some catching up to do
The problem on vrd is the ride height on stock configuration,i’m changed the shocks in the links holes and use stock shocks with Mini t spring and pen spring
Great comparison Logan! Hey, why didn't you make the trek out to Colorado to drive little buggies?
I watched this to help me choose which one i want to build . Ended up making the choice harder. Ill have draw one from a hat i guess.
Awesome video! I hope vanquish releases a straight axle version of the carbon soon!
You can buy the current kit, sell the portals new and make money going to straights. There’s not much reason for them to do it.
@@westdesertwheeler that’s what I’ll do if they don’t release one soon. I know they released both versions of the phoenix so I thought maybe they’d do the same with the vrd. I have the carbon kit and absolutely love it.
Have you tried running the under driver ring and pinion set in front and rear of the vrd. May lower torque twist enough to make that line you can't do with the vrd yet. Keep that front right down a little more.
Seems like the wheel tire set on the vrd needs to be put on the pro. I have neither of these but super scrubbed in KRAWLERS g8 from 2018 maybe. What I do have is a scx10ii base full rock pirate interceptor build even their bed I’d like to see that compared. Not sure if you have any of those left I don’t really care what axle is underneath them.
Yes run some gates! And swap the BTA kit into the VRD please
No BTA, SOA is closer to how the kit comes so I want to compare them closer to kit form
@@westdesertwheeler right I know nit picking content is awesome so thank you , what I’m saying is that swapping over to the stubby kit without also doing BTA probably hurts more than it helps considering weight distribution. the stubby kit moves part of the transmission backwards to make room for the BTA setup. With the standard setup the motor and spur are more forward so it makes up for the servo being higher up on the chassis. So with the stubby kit and SOA you have more weight higher and also backwards on the chassis than you would with the BTA setup
There is something satisfying about how silent the Pro is when it’s slow crawling.
13:27 wouldn't this be a portal vs strait axle thing due to tourque twisting being on the opposite side of the truck one vs the other? I have always been curious about this haha I wonder if you changed vrd to strait axles and see if or how much that Crack 15:30 would change
I have a VRD on straight axles and it’s an animal
Nice comparison. Building my VRD now and following it up with the pro. It didn't look like you had limiting straps in the back. Have you ever run them on all 4 corners. I only run them in the front. Just curious if you have?
I have I prefer front only
Nice comparison Logan. Good job 🎉
@ west desert wheeler: I'm thinking about whether I should get the scx10 pro, vrd or Capra 4ws. what would you recommend. I'm excited about your videos. I want maximum options. But I also drive through forest mud everywhere, etc.
Hey Logan, was wondering how often you restock the cut n shuts? Can I pre order somehow?
Great content! I'm always watching the videos you upload (best rc channel out there imo). To your experience/knowledge what would be the best rtr for rock crawling? I own a 1/10 fms fj40 but I really want to get crazy on the rocks with some suicide lines, what you recommend me? Thanks in advance Logan.
I wonder if a set of hard-core links for the VRD would help with the geometry?
Only if they changed the wheelbase. Replacing links themselves doesn’t change anything
@@westdesertwheeler yes they have the standard 12 six a 12 eight and a 13 inch set
Thank you for sharing this great video! 👍👍👍😅😅😅
Cool video!
Quick tip. If u didn't Already know. Keep a Bind plug on your keychain.
Good idea mine would get ripped off
@@westdesertwheeler mine has for over a year even with my grandson. Chewing on it here and there
Sidewinder is a dope ass name. Scary snake rad name lol
The vrd was at a disadvantage with the short kit and not putting the serv behind
You should of at least put the same brass wheel weights on it like the pro
@@dantrivett8435it comes with weights on it.. he explained this
The reason it has servo on top of axle is because that’s closer to how it comes in the kit. The stubby alone makes little difference with a small light motor
Which do you like better-777 or 800LP?
777 but it doesn’t always fit in the places a 800 will
Swap the tires and do a rematch sequel video.
10:37 you couldnt just say no to the factory reset? you make it sound like you had to do a factory reset then figure out a way to bind it without a bind plug
I turned it on and immediately hit enter so I could select and change model, the controller turned on and immediately asked if I wanted to reset, I didn’t read the screen I was relying on it to work correctly
Holmes HOBBIES not hobby.
Always bugged me when I worked there when people get that wrong, because JRH has multiple hobbies and used to sell quite a bit of e-bike stuff as well.
Lol don’t let the little stuff get to you
Sick
Sweet 💪
I really wish i had a good place to crawl. I really like the freedom and creativity of building these rigs. They're just useless and boring to me. I am currently working on my own "exoplex" RC playground on 15 acres i don't use but no big pile of rocks yet. These also seem a lot more affordable. At the very least you don't break expensive parts often compared to bashing. My TRX6 and SCX6 are my only 2 crawler type rigs and least modded. The Traxxas is my only bone stock truck. They're also my least driven. They're just not much to do at 10 mph or less on a bunch of flat ground.
I don’t break things often unless I’m intentionally being an idiot pushing through something I know it doesn’t want to
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