Isn't this black goo storyline the reason why Prometheus and Alien Covenant failed in the first place ruclips.net/p/PLX5yXOVJBh4e1FXb1gWM-BgPAv3mdHZDd&si=J3QnRuFOOllmfmOH
I feel like I’m back in the days before Prometheus release. I honestly haven’t been this excited for a movie since then probably. I hope this lives up to the trailers hype. And I hope the movie does well outside of just the Alien fans. It’s good to be back
I actually enjoyed prometheus, covenant felt pointless i always wished we got an actual continuation of shaw and dsvids story and what they find out about where they are going. Glad to see the call to black goo just wished it wasnt ruined in covenant.
I loved "Covenant" up until the ALIEN lookalike burst out of Oram. Then it just became another movie shooting the beast out the airlock. Again. I think the closing scenes saved the story in the end😊
Funny thing is, the Alien Bounty Hunter on TXF bleeds acid blood (which imo, they ripped off from Alien) so they both have borrowed ideas from each other
I honestly don't hate the black goo, as it opened up the possibility of seeing other Geiger-esque parasitic horrors. Unfortunately we got very little of that in the films compared to what was described in older scripts and concept art. I always liked the idea of "off-brand" xenomorphs that resulted from genetic experimentation too, but again this wasn't done very well in Alien Resurrection. I think the ideas in William Gibson's rejected Alien 3 script were a lot better. Maybe we'll finally see this concept done right in a finished film.
I suspect that the black goo canister may be Royal jelly... The xeno at the end of the trailer, reminiscing the Alien 3 scene, that xeno looks a lil different & we possibly may be getting Praetorian xeno....
Since RS is contributing to this movie, the black mutagen is sticken with us, and I don't mind it frankly. I hope they finish David story and connect the dots
Yeah perhaps they find a journal or some entries in a log within that lab that can then lead into a flashback scene that provides the origin story the WY lab etc
@@charleslaine I think the scene of the Android in this movie, when he is rolling his eyes; possibly downloading data from the lab computer and also being taken controlled by Mother
I wonder if we will ever find out what happened to the Covenant and her crew. Maybe these incubators are something that ties into David's ongoing experimentation on board the Covenant after Daniels went night night.
Apparently Big Chap isn’t in this trailer. A channel called “mikes monsters” who’s seen the film before the SFX were finished said it. He didn’t want to spoil the film but went into it with some depth.
Amanda Ripley should show up in after credits scene romulus takes place after alien and isolation It would set up perfect sequel for the game and movie plus the director played isolation and took things from the game put it in romulus
Did you catch Mikes Monsters take on the new trailer. He saw a super early version of the film. He point blank said its not Big Chap. But definitely made some pointed comments hinting at experiments snd such. I think you're right on point.
Honestly, I don’t hate Alien Resurrection. I watched the Director’s Cut and I have a new appreciation. I don’t think it’s a better movie but I look at it as more of a guilty pleasure that I like to watch like Superman IV and maybe Monster Squad. I do appreciate the hard work that was put into the movie and it looks more like a comic book movie. It’s very different than the other three alien movies. The characters are very comic book like and the aliens or xenomorphs are different than the aliens from the first and second movie. Alien 3’s alien movie was more of puppetry and automatronic live action with the close ups. I mean some people will say it looks fake. I think it’s fine. I wish the movie would’ve kept Hicks and Newt in the movie and the movie would’ve been better to just have Ripley get killed by the Alien and have Hicks and Newt barely escape with Bishop II and the company and left it at that but we got got Ripely sacrificing herself and the movie making it a big deal but then Resurrection makes it pointless because they brought her back as a clone and it’s like ok whatever. I think what we can look forward to with Alien Romulous is that we’ll get something new. It could be good and it could be bad. What I think would be bad is if we got a windfall of Easter eggs from other movies and references and expositions, which if I remember right is what DC did for BvS. Warner Brothers was like “Yeah, just throw a whole bunch of all of this other stuff in this movie and cram it in there.” I hope that’s what we’re not getting. The biggest reason why Alien was so successful was that it was simple and showed very little of the Alien. It was still part of the 1970s genres of B movies where it only showed the face and the head of alien and left the rest to imagination. It used a lot of behavior psychology of the actors to carry the movie that it made you lean forward on your seat to see what would happen next. To recap; it was a simple plot and story with one sub-plot with Ash betraying the crew and the crew members making a lot of mistakes. With Alien Romulous and why I think it does a lot of good things is the fact that it takes place on a space station by Weylan Yutani doing experiments and sh*t goes wrong and there is nobody on board. It takes everything we knew about the first movie and turns the plot inside out. People are trying to get off the planet get aboard the space station and find a shuttle to leave the system and finds all of these eggs and the original xenomorph from the first movie. This sounds like a good plot for a movie so far and the addition of barbs on the face huggers makes me wonder what the aliens are like. In James Cameron’s original screenplay he did have stingers on the alien’s tail that would immobilize them, which could’ve worked but it was cut out of the film. Covenant kind of did the same thing by going to a planet that they thought was hospitable and things go horrendous. I liked Covenant but I think what got fans angry was that RS made David the creator of the Aliens and not the Engineers. I was fine with the black goo as the whole centered plot device and the stupid mistakes the characters were making and getting sick. Everyone has their one or two movies that they absolutely hate. I like them all but I really like the first two alien movies. I wish we would’ve just got a movie about the Engineers creating life and visiting the humanoid worlds that they seeded and have a story with that but more stories of the Xenomorphs is fine to. I think if the film is paced like the first and second Alien movie , where you get to know the characters of the film and care about them and spend less time on nostalgia and information from the other movies. I think the movie will be fine. Some information is fine and information in the data base of the Nostromo or even the Prometheus mission and the disappearance of the Covenant is fine but I wouldn’t go any further than that. This movie really should stand on its own and have some of its own special features.
@@petrsvancara8785 Yes. Inconvenient for the crew because they could use his help. My fingers are crossed that we’ll see Andy be a heroic artificial person. Cheers
@@_GuyInTheChairi have a feeling he will fight the alien at the end and kill it and save the girl this will be the first time we see a android vs a alien in the franchise and since they are robots essentially my guess is he will be able to grab the alien and snaps 🫰its neck with no problem it won’t be that easy but also not that hard and this the first good 👍 android we have in the movie my name is Andy and I was in prison last 2 months ago and in jail I had a dream about Romulus and he’s name is Andy just like me this might be a sign I believe the universe is speaking to me through this movie I’m also black and the woman I love Sophia she’s white like the main girl from the movie and Andy and the main girl have a brother and sister relationship just like me and Sophia ain’t that crazy ?
@@_GuyInTheChair Im still not entirely sure why he is collecting the stuff that he is carrying around the space station. He shouldnt be evil, I agree, but this type of activity seems very weird and out of his own focus. Maybe that the crew is just using him for that purpose, because nothing can happen to him. Who knows, Im just trying to realise why they are so invested into this laboratory stuff, I mean a bunch of kids, looking for home there. We will see, we will see.
i liked the black gue and how it mutates its host and makes him a hard to kill monster , would be cool if its in the film it ads more to the world and variety of threats to an alien film
That's Andy rebooting in the chamber. Also there are TONS of pods so we will most likely see different angles. You can go watch Monster Mike to confirm, as he has seen the rough cut working in marketing. It's Andy doing his reboot.
I love the black goo. Such good cosmic horror. I hope it does something absolutely crazy in this film. I adore that it’s not consistent - it makes it even more difficult to comprehend or understand.
I do agree with you. Alvarez is a clever guy. A brilliant Director. & I genuinely feel like this movie is low key going to be packed full of Easter eggs pertaining to the original movie & the sequel! 🤞
What if this new Alien that is apparently in this film is a product of one of those eggs that we saw in the deleted scenes from the first Alien film? Remember those deleted scenes where the Alien was turning humans into eggs or something? What if this movie is going to show the result of that? Edit* I’m not saying it’s going to be the guys from the OG film, I know they got vaporised, I reckon the Alien will use people from the crew in Romulus
That’s an interesting take. For all it's worth it would be ironic if the Alien has been enhanced/perfected (being given the indiscriminate killer instinct) by the very scientists conducting the experiments. The irony, that once again mankind has seeded its own downfall by making a bio weapon that cannot be contained.
The Nostromo was vaporised in the biggest explosion ever shown in an 'Alien' film (three of them, actually). It's safe to say nothing physical survived from that place.
@@securityrobot Realistically, Aliens would be fairly simple to contain. Just like how deinosaurs would be. Hollywood just prefers to try and introduce disasters to those equations.
Spacey Jockey - only if they get the size correct. David - only if they were going for a Covenant sequel which they aren't - otherwise I never want to see David again.
Im just going to say it, i know its just my opinion but.....I hate the black goo. I wish it had never been introduced. I dont understand why people NEED to know where the alien comes from. Its so much scarier as a mystery.
We all knew already a long time ago that Xenomorphs are the biological weapons of the Engineers. The derelict ship in the first alien movie was fully loaded only with these eggs. Obviously the eggs were the cargo, and obviously this type of cargo was on its way to some distant place in the galaxy. We also suggest that something did happen inside the ship during the flight. We dont know exactly what happenned or why, but the Nostromo crew found a strange repeating signal, and that lead them right to the derelict ship. Later in the movie we realised that the signal itself isnt a SOS as Ripley think at first, but rather a warning signal (which is a bit contradictory from the screenplay perspective). The Space Jockey or Engineer if you want, was found inside this derelict ship, firmly rooted in his pilot chair with the familiar hole in the chest. So we can suggest that he was somehow attacked by the facehugger from the eggs inside the cargo, and that there was at one point an Alien that killed him due to this process. Probably, this was the reason why the derelict ship crash-landed on the LV-426. However, it wasnt so much a fall as an emergency landing, the derelict ship wasnt destroyed or damaged by the landing, so again, we could suggest that the pilot himself tried to land so as not to damage the cargo. The position of the ship itself speaks for itself. The only thing that we cant know is, if the Engineer was already infected before he piloted the ship or during the flight itself. Judging by the Ridley Scott Prometheus, the Engineer himself should be infected already before that, because Engineers are wearing a helmet with a tube, and facehuggers cant do anything against that. So, there are a lot of questions, and it also depends if we are still count on Prometheus lore or not.
The symbolism of playing with fire and unintentionally creating the Xenomorphs is quite compelling. Also the idea of a substance that generates infinite mutated horrid monstrosities is awesome. Awesome for seeing new awful things, more experiments more corporate meddling... all things the alien universe always thrived off of.
Maybe some outside group or Weyland Yutani themselves has a bounty on the black mutagen or royal jelly and this group somehow got the contract to retrieve it(or they just go with no authorization).
I wonder if the face huggers have any connection to David's ones at the end of Covenant, and if Weyland-Yutani took any of his research? I also think that rock the ship takes onboard is the alien but with a formed protective outer shell.
Yeah I think that also that the rock is big chap in some kind of resin cocoon and the part of the trailer where the hands are over the head is him coming out of it
@@calumsowhat well that's the part that confuses me the reason I say this is because those hands over the head/dome don't need to pop back to place as they are in place, I think these are two separate xenos tbh
Now I’m starting to think that maybe Big Chap is the “meteor” thing and maybe contact with the goo revives him, and causes him to mutate/ evolve in a praetorian or queen or something else.
Even though I did not like the whole David character in the direction he was going I think it's only logical that we explore what happened to him afterwards and what research he left behind for these other scientists to study
I don’t get hyped by trailers but this is different, the sets alone look incredible. Hopefully Alvarez can do to the Alien franchise what Villeneuve did for Blade Runner.
I'm guessing that figure in the incubation room is an android. It looks very plastic and kinda featureless. It would awesome if that was a nod to Isolation and it was a Working Joe.
I know a lot of fans did not like Prometheus or the additions to the lore, and i understand that. But personally i think the potential of the black goo being used or referenced in this movie is a nice link back to the Engineers and the wider history of the Aliens at large. I think It was a plot device that has a lot of potential, but it was simply not used properly in Prometheus and Covenant.
I have a theory that the big chap after being released is not getting along with the black goo aliens and although poses a threat to the humans and may kill some characters, at some point the big chap will join the fight against the black goo aliens in some form. Or the black goo aliens will attack the big chap and that allows the humans to escape, something like that. It would make sense seeing as they are not from the same hive and could see another hive member as a threat.
Is the black goo storyline the reason why alien prequels failed in the first place ruclips.net/p/PLX5yXOVJBh4e1FXb1gWM-BgPAv3mdHZDd&si=J3QnRuFOOllmfmOH
The biggest problem with Prometheus was the dialogue and acting ... The basic story and concept had promise, but the way the characters spoke and were directed just killed the movie. If Prometheus had actors and the quality of dialogue we saw in the original Alien, I think it could have been a great movie. I didn't like the space jockey being reduced to a large humanoid, but I never had a huge issue with the black goo or its connection to the creation of the alien. I loved the deleted scene with Weyland boasting of his ambition at a 2023 TED talk .... He spoke about his hatred for rules and regulations ... basically claiming that caution and fear were holding back the human race. This attitude carried forward through the decades within Weyland-Yutani, and their ambition to control and weaponise the alien species despite the massive risks, was always fascinating to me.
Prometheus is canon in the show as well, all they meant was they won't be referring to it, the show is from the perspective of a rival company, and they don't know of anyone else's involvement.
But you look at the red containment stuff, and I just wonder was there a problem, like some crash or impact that shifted the contents of the containers around and let the aliens escape. But then asking again, why would things that contain such dangerous things be easily broken. And why even have human occupants on board the station, having pure synthetic staff would contain any outbreak. In the future everyone is stupid. I'm also trying to figure out the time frame, like does this take place over 24 hours, a week. In the 1st alien it took awhile for the big boy to be big. Also if they bring out big chap, is that more like, opps released, awhile they deal with the newly born one also?
I have to agree go away from the goo and go more towards the aliens being their own species. I like the space station idea. Imagining if a few got ahold on Gateway station.
Ridley Scott can get a heart attack for all I care. "tHe bEaSt iS cOoKeD". Then gets jealous of Neil Blomkamp and shoves his dirty old man fingers in it again and gives us that trash covenant smh
I won't be surprised if this movie fails due to continuing the same black goo, retelling the origins of xenos, stupid dumb decisions repeated by dumb characters, etc from the failed alien prequels which derailed the franchise in the first place. ruclips.net/p/PLX5yXOVJBh4e1FXb1gWM-BgPAv3mdHZDd&si=J3QnRuFOOllmfmOH
@@bartsullivan4866 I mean one of the main theories is the black goo comes from distilling xenomorph DNA hence is highly concentrated adaptive traits... It doesnt stop them being their own species and only reinforces how much mucking around with them has bad consequences... if the Engineers got screwed over by it, humans are doomed if Weyland Yutani ever made headway with exploiting xenomorphs and their DNA
To be honest, I don't mind the black goo, the idea of an organic chemical nanite being the true form of the alien so to speak is fine as far as I am concerned, it makes for a rather different kind of berserker. The idea that it works withing an organism to produce an efficient host for propagation of itself (the alien) and can adapt and improve designs of generations of host organism is a smart idea.
Id love to see Aliens bringing people to the eggs like in comics , breaking their legs etc so they can’t escape , I’d like to see adult aliens witnessing the birth of baby aliens , sharing a hiss could be cool imagery
Honestly I think the Engineer is going to appear in a sequel. The Black Goo was part of Prometheus/Covenant but I think Fede wanted to develop the characters with Romulus. You can only keep making these movies until you have to explore possible origins.
I like Prometheus, but I always looked at it as an else-world story separate from the first two Alien films. The engineer in a suit as the space jockey is stupid and it was clearly just petrified alien bones in the first film, so I just look at it as two timelines.
Dude I am genuinely excited for this movie. Have not felt this way about a film since force awakens wich was ultimately the start of me feeling nothing towards movie releases...maybe this will restore faith in film! High hopes
I think you’re right. I hated the black goo as I wanted the alien to just be a species that the engineers held as biological weapons to set on a world so to speak. However, if this film can add to that narrative it may help us accept it and move forward.
I believe they knew this space station was abandoned; they didn't plan to shoot their way in. The guns were to defend themselves. The risk vs reward, was more than acceptable and the team would disperse after this, with a sizable payout. The plot was by Wayland to lure someone, a team to get in and out, with the prize - the goo. The android was necessary, as even Wayland accepted that this was the only method of safely securing and moving the goo. The team as young and inexperienced, clearly had no idea how dangerous the mission was, only the payout. Getting in would be easier than getting out. I don't like that the original alien could be resurrected. Hollywood has issues with letting anything just die, from TV shows to now Aliens, somehow this creature survived? Amazing. I do like Resurrection however and a hybrid Ripley, though not Ripley 8 of course albeit similar, with acid blood; immune to the facehuggers and aliens, as her acidity makes her an un-viable host. Whoever the character, to add an edge to the team for good or bad.. Ridley Scott should stay away from this franchise. His one hit had two disasters in Covenant and Prometheus.
Someone else is engineering eggs on that ship.. Those weren't traditional eggs.. Fede is taking elements from Ridely's work.. I'm all for it.. Especially since David's final transmission after Covenant.. He released and shared all of his findings and experiments over a 10 yr span to Weyland Yutani.. An Olive Branch essentially.. So they have the all data they will ever need..
Apparently there is a new alien creature in this movie , perhaps not as insane as the creauture from alien resurrection . But there is a scene in this trailer where it appears one of the females characters is giving birth . Not 100% sure as the scene was brief .
We all knew already a long time ago that Xenomorphs are the biological weapons of the Engineers. The derelict ship in the first alien movie was fully loaded only with these eggs. Obviously the eggs were the cargo, and obviously this type of cargo was on its way to some distant place in the galaxy. We also suggest that something did happen inside the ship during the flight. We dont know exactly what happenned or why, but the Nostromo crew found a strange repeating signal, and that lead them right to the derelict ship. Later in the movie we realised that the signal itself isnt a SOS as Ripley think at first, but rather a warning signal (which is a bit contradictory from the screenplay perspective). The Space Jockey or Engineer if you want, was found inside this derelict ship, firmly rooted in his pilot chair with the familiar hole in the chest. So we can suggest that he was somehow attacked by the facehugger from the eggs inside the cargo, and that there was at one point an Alien that killed him due to this process. Probably, this was the reason why the derelict ship crash-landed on the LV-426. However, it wasnt so much a fall as an emergency landing, the derelict ship wasnt destroyed or damaged by the landing, so again, we could suggest that the pilot himself tried to land so as not to damage the cargo. The position of the ship itself speaks for itself. The only thing that we cant know is, if the Engineer was already infected before he piloted the ship or during the flight itself. Judging by the Ridley Scott Prometheus, the Engineer himself should be infected already before that, because Engineers are wearing a helmet with a tube, and facehuggers cant do anything against that. So, there are a lot of questions, and it also depends if we are still count on Prometheus lore or not.
If this is set between Alien and Aliens, then is it safe to assume Weyland-Yutani's "progress" here is completely lost and their saving grace Is locating the derelict craft?
Aliens is one of my all time favourite movies, and I really love the Alien franchise in general, even if i was disappointed with some of the choices made with covenant concerning the lore and the supposed origin of the xenomorph (my headcanon denies it to be true!) Genuinely excited about this one though and its rare I feel that about any movie releases. Liking the theories you and others are having about the trailers. Its all very intriguing!
What if they are taking the approach of the new comics and mixing it with the unmade Gibson Alien III? The horrendous experiments and abominations we could see here seem to harken back to that. In the latter, they experimented with that to the point that two people morphed with one having a full grown xeno coming out of her (which is also reminiscent of the alien virus from the X Files). They could have not only found some of David 8 sick experiments and notes but besides that, they could have broken down part of the big chap DNA to find the black goo and realized this is the key component that the Engineers used to modify, destroy and create life.
You missed it ,,, Mr H .. the intro red room where you claim a android is in , incubators ... look on the right side that's the front of a xeno face ... the front of it on the right !! Left is facehugger... and how do you get anything resurrection on this?? I dont think we are going to get anything alien 3 or resurrection in this movie.. buy will have to see
1. That's andy in the background of incubation scene 2. It's not a queen ,it's the alien maturing and coming out of a pod as its grows 3. Don't think it's big chap. Heard he is not in this trailer
For me the black goo wasn't a problem, it was the changes they made to the 'Space Jocky' aliens. Making them human like and turning them into the creators of life on Earth was one of the first mistakes. They ignored the established lore of the first film and acted like it didn't exist. In the scene where the find the containers of black goo, you clearly see a xenomorph like statue, but it never gets mentioned. There never really was any explanation why David tested the black goo the way he did. Even the cut out scene from the climax of the movie where he talks to the Engineer only shows why he was learning so many languages on the trip The mistakes got further compounded in Covenant when they tried to say David created the xenomorphs and just turned him into a full on mad scientist. Prometheus and Covenant had great potential but they ruined the chances of the story going on by making too many changes.
@RoaryUK And where was that said. That just proves my point they don't know or care about the already established lore. If the Engineers aren't Space Jockeys, why do they have the same ships. Why would they have 'suits' that resemble the Space Jockey. How were there already eggs on the ship in the first film if David is supposed to be the creator of the Alien. It's a snowball of bad decisions and lazy story writing that ruins the whole story and franchise. You get too many contradicting plot lines and there becomes no way to continue.
Love to see your passion on the ALIEN stuff H - Keep it coming please - I think the canister may be a holder for a facehugger during a WEYLAND YUTANI experimentation, I am guessing and hoping they do not connect it in any way to PROMETHEUS or COVENANT, the black goo is boring and nonsensical in the sense that it does not add anything in terms of interest (due to the poor movies it was presented in) or logically speaking how it works, they definitely need to remove those from canon as Noah is doing with the TV series - they are a mistake.
The best thing about this movie is that its got Mr H talking about aliens and alien lore again like he used to years ago ❤
It's got him fanboying in his pants over every remember berry he can find.
I'm loving his Alien stuff.
The very reason why I subbed to him back then!
@@bicboi859 same here 👍
@@evanroberts2771Stops him moaning about woke culture for 5 minutes.
Man I’m so glad you’re back on your Alien Lore. You’re probably my favourite along with your Dredd stuff 🔥🙌
The black goo is actually a smooth black bean and pepper sauce with a medium heat to it.
Ideal for adding a bit of a kick to your stir fry.
And it makes monsters explode out of your body
@@slang1517yeah out of your ass 😭
It was even featured on Hot Ones. Sigourney Weaver was the guest.
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Isn't this black goo storyline the reason why Prometheus and Alien Covenant failed in the first place
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I feel like I’m back in the days before Prometheus release. I honestly haven’t been this excited for a movie since then probably. I hope this lives up to the trailers hype. And I hope the movie does well outside of just the Alien fans. It’s good to be back
I actually enjoyed prometheus, covenant felt pointless i always wished we got an actual continuation of shaw and dsvids story and what they find out about where they are going. Glad to see the call to black goo just wished it wasnt ruined in covenant.
I loved "Covenant" up until the ALIEN lookalike burst out of Oram. Then it just became another movie shooting the beast out the airlock. Again.
I think the closing scenes saved the story in the end😊
I enjoyed Prometheus as well. I wanted to know more of the Engineer culture in Covenant. At least have a surviving engineer to give us more lore.
I'm pretty sure the black goo was inspired from the black oil from the X-Files
Funny thing is, the Alien Bounty Hunter on TXF bleeds acid blood (which imo, they ripped off from Alien) so they both have borrowed ideas from each other
Black ooze has been a sci-fi trope for a very, very long time. 'The X-Files' was also inspired by elsewhere already doing it.
How bout the black oil that sprayed Vikkus in District 9 ?
Wait
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@@Chris_Sherwood and aliens in the-X-files born from human body
I honestly don't hate the black goo, as it opened up the possibility of seeing other Geiger-esque parasitic horrors. Unfortunately we got very little of that in the films compared to what was described in older scripts and concept art. I always liked the idea of "off-brand" xenomorphs that resulted from genetic experimentation too, but again this wasn't done very well in Alien Resurrection. I think the ideas in William Gibson's rejected Alien 3 script were a lot better. Maybe we'll finally see this concept done right in a finished film.
The novel Alien: Enemy of My Enemy does this concept really well. Would definitely recommend!
I agree with you regarding the black goo mutagen in the film. I'm glad he's covering these Alien topics.
I suspect that the black goo canister may be Royal jelly...
The xeno at the end of the trailer, reminiscing the Alien 3 scene, that xeno looks a lil different & we possibly may be getting Praetorian xeno....
I wanted to see how Shaw met her fate!
Since RS is contributing to this movie, the black mutagen is sticken with us, and I don't mind it frankly. I hope they finish David story and connect the dots
Same.
Yeah perhaps they find a journal or some entries in a log within that lab that can then lead into a flashback scene that provides the origin story the WY lab etc
@@charleslaine No, David sent them all the details, look at the Covenant advent video
The movie is partly based on a deleted scene from Covenant in which David sends a transmission to W/Y about his experiments and how to do what he did.
@@charleslaine I think the scene of the Android in this movie, when he is rolling his eyes; possibly downloading data from the lab computer and also being taken controlled by Mother
I wonder if we will ever find out what happened to the Covenant and her crew. Maybe these incubators are something that ties into David's ongoing experimentation on board the Covenant after Daniels went night night.
That’s definitely alien acid blood floating in space at the end of the trailer that someone is floating into - awesome!!!
Very excited for this film! Big Xeno at the end of the trailer with damage to the dome, could be the big chap? Hype for Romulus is building.
Apparently Big Chap isn’t in this trailer. A channel called “mikes monsters” who’s seen the film before the SFX were finished said it. He didn’t want to spoil the film but went into it with some depth.
What is this big chap that so many people keep talking about?
@@ortacreef8557 He's the very 1st xenomorph in the 1st Alien film
@thedarkjoker3873 and you believe him because???
It's the xeno launched out of the ship in covenant
Amanda Ripley should show up in after credits scene romulus takes place after alien and isolation
It would set up perfect sequel for the game and movie plus the director played isolation and took things from the game put it in romulus
Not going to happen, but the movie was inspired by the game.
@@RoaryUKseen spoilers it happens
I'm not sure why the black goo is so hated, it was hinted at in the original Alien movie when Brett and Dallas were being morphed by the stuff.
SO GLAD you're talking about Alien: Romulus and Alien lore in general. I love it.
Did you catch Mikes Monsters take on the new trailer. He saw a super early version of the film. He point blank said its not Big Chap. But definitely made some pointed comments hinting at experiments snd such. I think you're right on point.
Yeah, we haven't seen Big Chap yet that's what I always said, but I think we will at some point.
Honestly, I don’t hate Alien Resurrection. I watched the Director’s Cut and I have a new appreciation. I don’t think it’s a better movie but I look at it as more of a guilty pleasure that I like to watch like Superman IV and maybe Monster Squad. I do appreciate the hard work that was put into the movie and it looks more like a comic book movie. It’s very different than the other three alien movies. The characters are very comic book like and the aliens or xenomorphs are different than the aliens from the first and second movie. Alien 3’s alien movie was more of puppetry and automatronic live action with the close ups. I mean some people will say it looks fake. I think it’s fine. I wish the movie would’ve kept Hicks and Newt in the movie and the movie would’ve been better to just have Ripley get killed by the Alien and have Hicks and Newt barely escape with Bishop II and the company and left it at that but we got got Ripely sacrificing herself and the movie making it a big deal but then Resurrection makes it pointless because they brought her back as a clone and it’s like ok whatever.
I think what we can look forward to with Alien Romulous is that we’ll get something new. It could be good and it could be bad. What I think would be bad is if we got a windfall of Easter eggs from other movies and references and expositions, which if I remember right is what DC did for BvS. Warner Brothers was like “Yeah, just throw a whole bunch of all of this other stuff in this movie and cram it in there.” I hope that’s what we’re not getting. The biggest reason why Alien was so successful was that it was simple and showed very little of the Alien. It was still part of the 1970s genres of B movies where it only showed the face and the head of alien and left the rest to imagination. It used a lot of behavior psychology of the actors to carry the movie that it made you lean forward on your seat to see what would happen next. To recap; it was a simple plot and story with one sub-plot with Ash betraying the crew and the crew members making a lot of mistakes.
With Alien Romulous and why I think it does a lot of good things is the fact that it takes place on a space station by Weylan Yutani doing experiments and sh*t goes wrong and there is nobody on board. It takes everything we knew about the first movie and turns the plot inside out. People are trying to get off the planet get aboard the space station and find a shuttle to leave the system and finds all of these eggs and the original xenomorph from the first movie. This sounds like a good plot for a movie so far and the addition of barbs on the face huggers makes me wonder what the aliens are like. In James Cameron’s original screenplay he did have stingers on the alien’s tail that would immobilize them, which could’ve worked but it was cut out of the film. Covenant kind of did the same thing by going to a planet that they thought was hospitable and things go horrendous. I liked Covenant but I think what got fans angry was that RS made David the creator of the Aliens and not the Engineers. I was fine with the black goo as the whole centered plot device and the stupid mistakes the characters were making and getting sick. Everyone has their one or two movies that they absolutely hate. I like them all but I really like the first two alien movies. I wish we would’ve just got a movie about the Engineers creating life and visiting the humanoid worlds that they seeded and have a story with that but more stories of the Xenomorphs is fine to.
I think if the film is paced like the first and second Alien movie , where you get to know the characters of the film and care about them and spend less time on nostalgia and information from the other movies. I think the movie will be fine. Some information is fine and information in the data base of the Nostromo or even the Prometheus mission and the disappearance of the Covenant is fine but I wouldn’t go any further than that. This movie really should stand on its own and have some of its own special features.
Dude standing in the red room is Andy. It’s the same scene with his eyes rolling back. He’s rebooting/software update at a very inconvenient time
Inconvenient time? Dont worry, Facehuggers are not into the Synthetics. But others around him in that moment should be very worried, yes.
@@petrsvancara8785 Yes. Inconvenient for the crew because they could use his help. My fingers are crossed that we’ll see Andy be a heroic artificial person. Cheers
@@_GuyInTheChairi have a feeling he will fight the alien at the end and kill it and save the girl this will be the first time we see a android vs a alien in the franchise and since they are robots essentially my guess is he will be able to grab the alien and snaps 🫰its neck with no problem it won’t be that easy but also not that hard and this the first good 👍 android we have in the movie my name is Andy and I was in prison last 2 months ago and in jail I had a dream about Romulus and he’s name is Andy just like me this might be a sign I believe the universe is speaking to me through this movie I’m also black and the woman I love Sophia she’s white like the main girl from the movie and Andy and the main girl have a brother and sister relationship just like me and Sophia ain’t that crazy ?
@@_GuyInTheChair Im still not entirely sure why he is collecting the stuff that he is carrying around the space station. He shouldnt be evil, I agree, but this type of activity seems very weird and out of his own focus. Maybe that the crew is just using him for that purpose, because nothing can happen to him. Who knows, Im just trying to realise why they are so invested into this laboratory stuff, I mean a bunch of kids, looking for home there. We will see, we will see.
Andy reboots because he is a weyland yutani synthetic so he is getting a new mission. To protect the alien I imagine
i loved the black goo and the loved the direction covenant was going, even if it wasn’t the greatest alien movie
The GOO lol I love it you can't escape the GOO
i liked the black gue and how it mutates its host and makes him a hard to kill monster , would be cool if its in the film it ads more to the world and variety of threats to an alien film
That's Andy rebooting in the chamber. Also there are TONS of pods so we will most likely see different angles. You can go watch Monster Mike to confirm, as he has seen the rough cut working in marketing. It's Andy doing his reboot.
So glad the old Mr H is back. I feel like I’m back in time. Love this
Whe H is this invested in Alien I get so excited. Can't wait for the film and more lore videos.
Thanks for the lore video H! I'm looking forward to this film. Cheers.
Another glorious day in the corps!
I think that small claw extending looking thing in the trailer is a chestburster metamorphosizing into a "toddler" Xenomorph.
I hope we can see some kind of cocoon between the chest bursted and drone. How fast they grow has always been fascinating to me and its never shown.
I love the black goo. Such good cosmic horror. I hope it does something absolutely crazy in this film. I adore that it’s not consistent - it makes it even more difficult to comprehend or understand.
David showing up in a post credit scene gonna be crazyy loll
David isn't in this film but it is said that we hear his message to W/Y in a deleted scene from Covenant.
I do agree with you.
Alvarez is a clever guy. A brilliant Director.
& I genuinely feel like this movie is low key going to be packed full of Easter eggs pertaining to the original movie & the sequel! 🤞
What if this new Alien that is apparently in this film is a product of one of those eggs that we saw in the deleted scenes from the first Alien film? Remember those deleted scenes where the Alien was turning humans into eggs or something? What if this movie is going to show the result of that?
Edit* I’m not saying it’s going to be the guys from the OG film, I know they got vaporised, I reckon the Alien will use people from the crew in Romulus
That’s an interesting take. For all it's worth it would be ironic if the Alien has been enhanced/perfected (being given the indiscriminate killer instinct) by the very scientists conducting the experiments. The irony, that once again mankind has seeded its own downfall by making a bio weapon that cannot be contained.
@@securityrobot But we see awhole nest of eggs when Kane/his other 2crew landed on the aliens homeplanet? 🤨🥚👀
Ripley burned them
The Nostromo was vaporised in the biggest explosion ever shown in an 'Alien' film (three of them, actually). It's safe to say nothing physical survived from that place.
@@securityrobot Realistically, Aliens would be fairly simple to contain. Just like how deinosaurs would be. Hollywood just prefers to try and introduce disasters to those equations.
I kind of wanna see a space jockey or see David. Maybe even yutani discussing about a "bad synthetic " that went haywire ...
Spacey Jockey - only if they get the size correct.
David - only if they were going for a Covenant sequel which they aren't - otherwise I never want to see David again.
Definitely would like to see the Prometheus/ Covenant events tied-up and tied in, in some consistent way
David isn't in this movie
@@danielmoore4693 It will only happen if Romulus is a success and also why Scott is producing, but that is his only involvement in the movie.
Seeing the teaser was enough to make me excited but now that the trailer is out I am through the roof. So ready for this movie.
That scene with the facehuggers, that person looks like it's egg morphing.
It was already explained in the leaks
I personally thought the black goo was one of the more interesting parts of Prometheus/Covenant.
Agreed.
I really like that scene featuring the X-ray machine during the recent trailer.
Im just going to say it, i know its just my opinion but.....I hate the black goo. I wish it had never been introduced. I dont understand why people NEED to know where the alien comes from. Its so much scarier as a mystery.
We all knew already a long time ago that Xenomorphs are the biological weapons of the Engineers. The derelict ship in the first alien movie was fully loaded only with these eggs.
Obviously the eggs were the cargo, and obviously this type of cargo was on its way to some distant place in the galaxy.
We also suggest that something did happen inside the ship during the flight.
We dont know exactly what happenned or why, but the Nostromo crew found a strange repeating signal, and that lead them right to the derelict ship. Later in the movie we realised that the signal itself isnt a SOS as Ripley think at first, but rather a warning signal (which is a bit contradictory from the screenplay perspective).
The Space Jockey or Engineer if you want, was found inside this derelict ship, firmly rooted in his pilot chair with the familiar hole in the chest. So we can suggest that he was somehow attacked by the facehugger from the eggs inside the cargo, and that there was at one point an Alien that killed him due to this process. Probably, this was the reason why the derelict ship crash-landed on the LV-426.
However, it wasnt so much a fall as an emergency landing, the derelict ship wasnt destroyed or damaged by the landing, so again, we could suggest that the pilot himself tried to land so as not to damage the cargo. The position of the ship itself speaks for itself.
The only thing that we cant know is, if the Engineer was already infected before he piloted the ship or during the flight itself.
Judging by the Ridley Scott Prometheus, the Engineer himself should be infected already before that, because Engineers are wearing a helmet with a tube, and facehuggers cant do anything against that.
So, there are a lot of questions, and it also depends if we are still count on Prometheus lore or not.
Totally agree.
@JDA-Ruxley As do I😅
I hate the idea that they came from some stupid black goo instead of coming "naturally" from some planet/universe.
The symbolism of playing with fire and unintentionally creating the Xenomorphs is quite compelling.
Also the idea of a substance that generates infinite mutated horrid monstrosities is awesome. Awesome for seeing new awful things, more experiments more corporate meddling... all things the alien universe always thrived off of.
Sad that people who hate this story thread. They just want a bug shootout movie. Shows how simple people are.
Maybe some outside group or Weyland Yutani themselves has a bounty on the black mutagen or royal jelly and this group somehow got the contract to retrieve it(or they just go with no authorization).
Any Brits see Rishi Sunak on the left with a rifle? 🤣🤣🤣
Defo works for the company.
You mean creative goo flowing.
I wonder if the face huggers have any connection to David's ones at the end of Covenant, and if Weyland-Yutani took any of his research? I also think that rock the ship takes onboard is the alien but with a formed protective outer shell.
Yeah I think that also that the rock is big chap in some kind of resin cocoon and the part of the trailer where the hands are over the head is him coming out of it
@@kerryprice1414 agreed especially when you see its hand “defrosting” or popping back into shape.
@@calumsowhat well that's the part that confuses me the reason I say this is because those hands over the head/dome don't need to pop back to place as they are in place, I think these are two separate xenos tbh
I think the covenant ship is drifting and some people from this colony try to salvage it. I think this is David's experiments that come to fruition.
Nope. Romulus is almost entirely set on a space station with the same name.
Now I’m starting to think that maybe Big Chap is the “meteor” thing and maybe contact with the goo revives him, and causes him to mutate/ evolve in a praetorian or queen or something else.
Yeah I believe he is the big rock that comes in the ship also and the part of the trailer where the hands are over the head is him coming out of it
@@kerryprice1414 yes I think it’s a cocoon he formed around himself.
Even though I did not like the whole David character in the direction he was going I think it's only logical that we explore what happened to him afterwards and what research he left behind for these other scientists to study
Yes that is the mutagen. Would be cool if they explained finding it through David in the covenant film
I don’t get hyped by trailers but this is different, the sets alone look incredible. Hopefully Alvarez can do to the Alien franchise what Villeneuve did for Blade Runner.
I get Scooby-Doo in space vibes with alot of copied or call back scenes.
Mr H I'm so fucking excited to see this God damn movie
It's the space jockey pilot, they are trying to clone the creature, so they can learn from it, and understand their civilization.
The big chap is definitely morphing into something bigger
I'm guessing that figure in the incubation room is an android. It looks very plastic and kinda featureless. It would awesome if that was a nod to Isolation and it was a Working Joe.
I know a lot of fans did not like Prometheus or the additions to the lore, and i understand that.
But personally i think the potential of the black goo being used or referenced in this movie is a nice link back to the Engineers and the wider history of the Aliens at large.
I think It was a plot device that has a lot of potential, but it was simply not used properly in Prometheus and Covenant.
I have a theory that the big chap after being released is not getting along with the black goo aliens and although poses a threat to the humans and may kill some characters, at some point the big chap will join the fight against the black goo aliens in some form. Or the black goo aliens will attack the big chap and that allows the humans to escape, something like that. It would make sense seeing as they are not from the same hive and could see another hive member as a threat.
I don't want this to connect to Prometheus or Covenant.
why not?..it's part of the Disney Franchise so will obviously be connected drrr
I definitely do. We won't get a third film to complete the trilogy so maybe this will give some closure
Such an L take, there's no point in not connecting already established films.
My theory is the black goo comes entirely from a story writers need to be as cool and financially recompensed as Alex Krycek and the smoking man.
Is the black goo storyline the reason why alien prequels failed in the first place
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@@logannelson1807 Prometheus didn't fail
The black gabagool!?
The biggest problem with Prometheus was the dialogue and acting ... The basic story and concept had promise, but the way the characters spoke and were directed just killed the movie. If Prometheus had actors and the quality of dialogue we saw in the original Alien, I think it could have been a great movie. I didn't like the space jockey being reduced to a large humanoid, but I never had a huge issue with the black goo or its connection to the creation of the alien.
I loved the deleted scene with Weyland boasting of his ambition at a 2023 TED talk .... He spoke about his hatred for rules and regulations ... basically claiming that caution and fear were holding back the human race. This attitude carried forward through the decades within Weyland-Yutani, and their ambition to control and weaponise the alien species despite the massive risks, was always fascinating to me.
They did say Prometheus is canon in the movie so that works... although, in the Alien show it won't be.
Prometheus is canon in the show as well, all they meant was they won't be referring to it, the show is from the perspective of a rival company, and they don't know of anyone else's involvement.
But you look at the red containment stuff, and I just wonder was there a problem, like some crash or impact that shifted the contents of the containers around and let the aliens escape. But then asking again, why would things that contain such dangerous things be easily broken. And why even have human occupants on board the station, having pure synthetic staff would contain any outbreak. In the future everyone is stupid.
I'm also trying to figure out the time frame, like does this take place over 24 hours, a week. In the 1st alien it took awhile for the big boy to be big. Also if they bring out big chap, is that more like, opps released, awhile they deal with the newly born one also?
Bro I went right to your channel after I sa the trailer I'm so glad we're back baby with the alien lore 🥰
If Romulus has the goo, then Ridley has got his grubby mitts in it, to its detriment.
I have to agree go away from the goo and go more towards the aliens being their own species. I like the space station idea. Imagining if a few got ahold on Gateway station.
Ridley Scott can get a heart attack for all I care. "tHe bEaSt iS cOoKeD". Then gets jealous of Neil Blomkamp and shoves his dirty old man fingers in it again and gives us that trash covenant smh
I won't be surprised if this movie fails due to continuing the same black goo, retelling the origins of xenos, stupid dumb decisions repeated by dumb characters, etc from the failed alien prequels which derailed the franchise in the first place.
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@@bartsullivan4866 I mean one of the main theories is the black goo comes from distilling xenomorph DNA hence is highly concentrated adaptive traits...
It doesnt stop them being their own species and only reinforces how much mucking around with them has bad consequences... if the Engineers got screwed over by it, humans are doomed if Weyland Yutani ever made headway with exploiting xenomorphs and their DNA
@@logannelson1807 You could always do one and watch some other s**te, you won't be missed! 😂
To be honest, I don't mind the black goo, the idea of an organic chemical nanite being the true form of the alien so to speak is fine as far as I am concerned, it makes for a rather different kind of berserker. The idea that it works withing an organism to produce an efficient host for propagation of itself (the alien) and can adapt and improve designs of generations of host organism is a smart idea.
Looks like the best thing to come from Disney in a long time
Id love to see Aliens bringing people to the eggs like in comics , breaking their legs etc so they can’t escape , I’d like to see adult aliens witnessing the birth of baby aliens , sharing a hiss could be cool imagery
Honestly I think the Engineer is going to appear in a sequel. The Black Goo was part of Prometheus/Covenant but I think Fede wanted to develop the characters with Romulus. You can only keep making these movies until you have to explore possible origins.
I like Prometheus, but I always looked at it as an else-world story separate from the first two Alien films. The engineer in a suit as the space jockey is stupid and it was clearly just petrified alien bones in the first film, so I just look at it as two timelines.
Space Jockey's and Engineer's are NOT the same species. How many more times ffs!!
I’m just thankful for a diverse cast. I’ve always wanted a black man as a synthetic.
Dude I am genuinely excited for this movie. Have not felt this way about a film since force awakens wich was ultimately the start of me feeling nothing towards movie releases...maybe this will restore faith in film! High hopes
Wetland-yutani went all diverse and inclusive by making a black synthetic, I wonder if there are any Asian or Hispanic synthetics.
Are they maybe praetorian face huggers?
they dropped the ball killing Shaw they should have just continued Shaw's Journey
Will be see Blue’s “ Queen code “ from into Charybdis
So excited for this!!
im sure its big chap. the forcefield scene looks like he cocooned himself in space as a protective means.
I'm wondering if when the black android is "rebooting" if he is being uploaded with Weyland yutani commands to protect the alien?
I think you’re right. I hated the black goo as I wanted the alien to just be a species that the engineers held as biological weapons to set on a world so to speak. However, if this film can add to that narrative it may help us accept it and move forward.
I believe they knew this space station was abandoned; they didn't plan to shoot their way in. The guns were to defend themselves. The risk vs reward, was more than acceptable and the team would disperse after this, with a sizable payout. The plot was by Wayland to lure someone, a team to get in and out, with the prize - the goo.
The android was necessary, as even Wayland accepted that this was the only method of safely securing and moving the goo. The team as young and inexperienced, clearly had no idea how dangerous the mission was, only the payout. Getting in would be easier than getting out.
I don't like that the original alien could be resurrected. Hollywood has issues with letting anything just die, from TV shows to now Aliens, somehow this creature survived? Amazing. I do like Resurrection however and a hybrid Ripley, though not Ripley 8 of course albeit similar, with acid blood; immune to the facehuggers and aliens, as her acidity makes her an un-viable host. Whoever the character, to add an edge to the team for good or bad..
Ridley Scott should stay away from this franchise. His one hit had two disasters in Covenant and Prometheus.
They might be carrying it as a safeguard from Ash. He won't let the aliens kill them while they have it...
So is this before or after ? And where is David at this time period???
Hopefully an army of alien drones appeared thanks for the black goo
They need to adapt either Aliens Earth Wars or Aliens Genocide from dark horse. Loved to have seen them his in live action or even in anime
Someone else is engineering eggs on that ship.. Those weren't traditional eggs.. Fede is taking elements from Ridely's work.. I'm all for it.. Especially since David's final transmission after Covenant.. He released and shared all of his findings and experiments over a 10 yr span to Weyland Yutani.. An Olive Branch essentially.. So they have the all data they will ever need..
Apparently there is a new alien creature in this movie , perhaps not as insane as the creauture from alien resurrection . But there is a scene in this trailer where it appears one of the females characters is giving birth . Not 100% sure as the scene was brief .
Mr H, do you play the newer alien games?
We all knew already a long time ago that Xenomorphs are the biological weapons of the Engineers. The derelict ship in the first alien movie was fully loaded only with these eggs.
Obviously the eggs were the cargo, and obviously this type of cargo was on its way to some distant place in the galaxy.
We also suggest that something did happen inside the ship during the flight.
We dont know exactly what happenned or why, but the Nostromo crew found a strange repeating signal, and that lead them right to the derelict ship. Later in the movie we realised that the signal itself isnt a SOS as Ripley think at first, but rather a warning signal (which is a bit contradictory from the screenplay perspective).
The Space Jockey or Engineer if you want, was found inside this derelict ship, firmly rooted in his pilot chair with the familiar hole in the chest. So we can suggest that he was somehow attacked by the facehugger from the eggs inside the cargo, and that there was at one point an Alien that killed him due to this process. Probably, this was the reason why the derelict ship crash-landed on the LV-426.
However, it wasnt so much a fall as an emergency landing, the derelict ship wasnt destroyed or damaged by the landing, so again, we could suggest that the pilot himself tried to land so as not to damage the cargo. The position of the ship itself speaks for itself.
The only thing that we cant know is, if the Engineer was already infected before he piloted the ship or during the flight itself.
Judging by the Ridley Scott Prometheus, the Engineer himself should be infected already before that, because Engineers are wearing a helmet with a tube, and facehuggers cant do anything against that.
So, there are a lot of questions, and it also depends if we are still count on Prometheus lore or not.
If this is set between Alien and Aliens, then is it safe to assume Weyland-Yutani's "progress" here is completely lost and their saving grace
Is locating the derelict craft?
Aliens is one of my all time favourite movies, and I really love the Alien franchise in general, even if i was disappointed with some of the choices made with covenant concerning the lore and the supposed origin of the xenomorph (my headcanon denies it to be true!) Genuinely excited about this one though and its rare I feel that about any movie releases.
Liking the theories you and others are having about the trailers. Its all very intriguing!
What if they are taking the approach of the new comics and mixing it with the unmade Gibson Alien III? The horrendous experiments and abominations we could see here seem to harken back to that.
In the latter, they experimented with that to the point that two people morphed with one having a full grown xeno coming out of her (which is also reminiscent of the alien virus from the X Files).
They could have not only found some of David 8 sick experiments and notes but besides that, they could have broken down part of the big chap DNA to find the black goo and realized this is the key component that the Engineers used to modify, destroy and create life.
You missed it ,,, Mr H .. the intro red room where you claim a android is in , incubators ... look on the right side that's the front of a xeno face ... the front of it on the right !! Left is facehugger... and how do you get anything resurrection on this?? I dont think we are going to get anything alien 3 or resurrection in this movie.. buy will have to see
I like the black goo in this Universe.
1. That's andy in the background of incubation scene
2. It's not a queen ,it's the alien maturing and coming out of a pod as its grows
3. Don't think it's big chap. Heard he is not in this trailer
Anything that carries over from Prometheus or Covenant would ruin the story for me.
Thanks for the heads-up.
Now, I don’t have to bother watching it.
For me the black goo wasn't a problem, it was the changes they made to the 'Space Jocky' aliens. Making them human like and turning them into the creators of life on Earth was one of the first mistakes. They ignored the established lore of the first film and acted like it didn't exist. In the scene where the find the containers of black goo, you clearly see a xenomorph like statue, but it never gets mentioned. There never really was any explanation why David tested the black goo the way he did. Even the cut out scene from the climax of the movie where he talks to the Engineer only shows why he was learning so many languages on the trip The mistakes got further compounded in Covenant when they tried to say David created the xenomorphs and just turned him into a full on mad scientist. Prometheus and Covenant had great potential but they ruined the chances of the story going on by making too many changes.
Space Jockey's and Engineer's are two different species, this was confirmed a while ago, but whether we get to see it really depends on this movie.
@RoaryUK And where was that said. That just proves my point they don't know or care about the already established lore. If the Engineers aren't Space Jockeys, why do they have the same ships. Why would they have 'suits' that resemble the Space Jockey. How were there already eggs on the ship in the first film if David is supposed to be the creator of the Alien. It's a snowball of bad decisions and lazy story writing that ruins the whole story and franchise. You get too many contradicting plot lines and there becomes no way to continue.
Looking forward to seeing the movie ...will they connect the first alien movie to this one ?
Love to see your passion on the ALIEN stuff H - Keep it coming please - I think the canister may be a holder for a facehugger during a WEYLAND YUTANI experimentation, I am guessing and hoping they do not connect it in any way to PROMETHEUS or COVENANT, the black goo is boring and nonsensical in the sense that it does not add anything in terms of interest (due to the poor movies it was presented in) or logically speaking how it works, they definitely need to remove those from canon as Noah is doing with the TV series - they are a mistake.