One Second From Death: Rail Workers Narrowly Avoid 125mph Train

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  • Опубликовано: 8 фев 2025
  • One Second From Death: Rail Workers Narrowly Avoid 125mph Train Railway workers were forced to scramble to safety as a train sped towards them at 125 miles-per-hour. The near-miss happened near Egmanton level crossing on the East Coast Main Line on 5th October last year. The three workers, part of a group supplied to Network Rail by Vital Human Resources, only became aware of the train just three seconds before it reached them. One worker spotted the danger and shouted to the others to get out of the way just just a second to spare. A report from the Rail Accident Investigation Branch talked of shocking safety practices. They said the leader of the group, employed by Network Rail, had skimped on safety to get the job done more quickly.Simon French, Chief Inspector of Rail Accidents, said: "When the person in charge of a team is both a strong personality and an employee of the client, it can be particularly hard for contract workers to challenge unsafe behaviour. "In this investigation, RAIB found that the person in charge had adopted an unsafe method of working in an attempt to undertake additional unplanned work. "Both the person in charge and team members became distracted, and the result was that three of them found themselves jumping clear of a train travelling at 125 miles per hour with just one second to spare. "This came so close to being a major tragedy." A Network Rail spokesperson said: “Safety is our top priority and we take incidents such as the one at Egmanton extremely seriously and we have worked closely with the Rail Accident Investigation Branch on this report. "We work hard to prevent incidents like this happening and we have already begun to implement the recommendations made.” Uk Politics World News GE2018 Brexit G20 OJW Donations Welcome. www.paypal.com...

Комментарии • 661

  • @laurencetayloruk
    @laurencetayloruk Год назад +773

    On our track safety course the instuctor took us out on York station platform, pointed at a train coming in, and said "tell me when you hear it". We heard it about 2 seconds before it was on us.
    Electric trains are amazingly quiet especially if the engine is on the back end. And in this video it probably was.

    • @grahamjordan1040
      @grahamjordan1040 Год назад +32

      There is no engine on an electric train 🙄

    • @bonkeydollocks1879
      @bonkeydollocks1879 Год назад +33

      Theres a reason you didnt hear the engine on that electric train..

    • @MervynPartin
      @MervynPartin Год назад +46

      @@grahamjordan1040The new(ish) Hitachi Azuma multiple units do not have separate locomotives but do have diesel engines within the sets to enable running beyond the overhead wires. The diesels would not normally be running whilst on the electrified lines.
      At the time of this video, there would still be many trains of Mk4 coaching stock with a class 91 electric loco at one end and a driving van trailer at the other. The cooling fans on the locomotives are fairly loud, but would not be heard if the driving van trailer was leading.

    • @Xx_D3str0y3rCrypt0B0t_xX
      @Xx_D3str0y3rCrypt0B0t_xX Год назад +57

      @@grahamjordan1040 There are electric engines

    • @The_Untitled
      @The_Untitled Год назад +2

      @MervynPartin They still do run alot, Last time I went to London I rode in a Mk4 coach

  • @kingjames8283
    @kingjames8283 Год назад +163

    Here in the U.S., this is a very serious matter. I'm in construction both road and bridge building and when our jobsite intersects a rail line, a foreman from the railroad must be onsite as the point-man with direct radio communications from rail dispatchers. That person knows where the trains are and when it'll cross our work zones. He is the only person who can authorize our crossing of the rails. Same for oversize permit loads on regular roads at main line rail grade crossings. We cannot cross over rail tracks unless he is on location and gives authority to cross otherwise we sit and wait until he arrives. There were two incidents recently where transport companies didn't notify the railroad of pending crossings, one involving a wind generator blade, and the second involving a massive concrete bridge beam, and both crossings lead to massive destruction and train derailments. The fines and cost to the transport companies will be in the multi-millions of dollars which one phone call would've prevented.

    • @sparkyUK
      @sparkyUK Год назад +14

      It's a very serious matter in the UK, too.

    • @JoeyLovesTrains
      @JoeyLovesTrains Год назад

      In the US, Class 7 track (which allows passenger trains to run up to 125mph) require full grade separation, and absolutely no road crossings.

    • @melvideo63
      @melvideo63 Год назад

      I believe it's called "track and time," to get authority to occupy a given area of track (in CTC territory, between control points). The Dispatcher gives detailed authority, and the trackside workers must repeat the authority verbatim for confirmation.

    • @NedTheRat
      @NedTheRat 5 месяцев назад

      600th comment

    • @FarmYard-Trains
      @FarmYard-Trains 5 месяцев назад +6

      I think this is a serious issue everywhere mate not just America let's be honest

  • @arburo1
    @arburo1 Год назад +77

    The person in charge of works must be sacked. He disobeyed the safety rules. You should have a lookout both sides of the work, spaced at a distance of ( can't remember the time as the distance is based on the running speed but it may be 25 secs ). On a curve you need additional lookouts so the full distance is covered. I know this as in my younger days I was a certified lookout.

    • @modelsteamers671
      @modelsteamers671 Год назад

      You can't tell from the video who's fault it was.

    • @ekspatriat
      @ekspatriat Год назад +3

      You know 'must be sacked' is a silly thing to write as this was 6 years ago!

    • @daskritterhaus5491
      @daskritterhaus5491 Год назад

      absolutely a string of lookouts within eyesight so the moment the train lite shows up on the horizon seconds later the crew know.
      instead of with seconds to spare. idiocy 7th degree

    • @gwrdriver1660
      @gwrdriver1660 Год назад +1

      I know this video is old now, but lookouts aren't used anymore, got ditched a few years ago, haven't seen a lookout for a gang in ages. Not sure what they use now, might be some sort of train detection. I'm a train driver by the way.

    • @jamielee9350
      @jamielee9350 Год назад +1

      @@gwrdriver1660 Network Rail had committed to moving away from using human operated lookout warning systems by 31st July 2021.

  • @sandynathan
    @sandynathan 3 года назад +500

    There is absolutely no chance of this being the drivers fault. Where were the lookouts? Where was the limited speed markers? Was this work carried out authorised or even organised. You cannot even blame the driver for sounding the horn as there is no audio available. I'd say he did sound it because the way they moved when he rounded the corner says to me the driver saw them, blasted the horn and they got the fuck out of there. I'd put 100% of the blame on them not the driver.

    • @tgm9991
      @tgm9991 3 года назад +64

      Yes and the rail accident investigation branch put the blame on the way the track workers were working, the driver did everything by the book including proper horn usage, emergency stop and reported the incident and thought he killed one of them so the incident was initially treated as a fatality and the ones in charge of the track workers never even reported the incident and say that they where involved in a near miss and everyone was fine nor did they admit it after they were contacted about the incident IIRC.

    • @sandynathan
      @sandynathan 3 года назад +44

      @@tgm9991 just amazes me that people commenting on here seem to think it's the drivers fault. There are literally no indicators whatsoever that there are workers. As far as the driver is aware its a clear track

    • @sandynathan
      @sandynathan 3 года назад +25

      @@barryallison7051 I'd check the report. Trains have black boxes and it showed clearly the horn was used extensively.

    • @barryallison7051
      @barryallison7051 3 года назад +9

      @@sandynathan then why oh why did they continue onto the line .That would have went down as a near miss also that COSS should have been sacked or demoted back to track rat.

    • @sandynathan
      @sandynathan 3 года назад +7

      @@barryallison7051 that is a bloody good question, why venture onto the track with no lookouts posted, according to the report(wish I could find the link-its in the comments somewhere) there was no lookouts, not even a work order planned. The train ended up stopping about a mile further down the track as the driver was convinced he'd hit someone.

  • @johnhealy8513
    @johnhealy8513 5 лет назад +633

    There seems to be no lookout and also no sounding of the horn. These guys were very lucky.

    • @droge192
      @droge192 4 года назад +221

      How do you know there was no sounding of the horn - there's no audio feed from the train!

    • @nkt1
      @nkt1 3 года назад +8

      According to the RAIB report, the driver sounded the horn several times, got no response, applied the emergency brakes and continued sounding the horn: www.gov.uk/raib-reports/report-11-2018-near-miss-with-a-group-of-track-workers-at-egmanton-level-crossing

    • @doohickey-enjoyer
      @doohickey-enjoyer 3 года назад +93

      No audio in the video. The driver *_Did_* Honk the horn. There is evidence in other comments

    • @Stig1244
      @Stig1244 3 года назад +11

      They didn’t have a COSS either so shouldn’t have been anywhere near the line

    • @jiogcyihsugyiocjfdoivhphvw6821
      @jiogcyihsugyiocjfdoivhphvw6821 2 года назад

      no sound, drunkard. the horn wouldve been sounded

  • @hugopaul8797
    @hugopaul8797 Год назад +114

    For English viewiers, this kind of situation has become usual in France since privatisation of the railways works. Those workers often do not receive every security lessons and have to work in a very short period of time.

    • @sg.-_
      @sg.-_ Год назад +4

      Qu'est-ce que tu racontes. Parfois il y a des manquements, mais de là à dire que c'est courant...

    • @killakanzgaming
      @killakanzgaming Год назад +7

      It's happening more often over here in the UK too.
      The government's company that owns the UK's rail infrastructure (network rail) outsources almost everything these days. The companies that do the work on the tracks usually get workers from agencies, temporary staff with little or no training.

    • @CRICFOOTY18
      @CRICFOOTY18 Год назад +1

      In india situation is worse than expected

    • @RichardASK
      @RichardASK Год назад

      To be fair, from the videos I have seen of Indian Railways, where people and animals are roaming all over the tracks, why is it worse than expected? Surely isn't it exactly what one would expect?@@CRICFOOTY18

    • @k4productions
      @k4productions Год назад

      Do your train not have horns or are there horns laws?

  • @starpawsy
    @starpawsy Год назад +25

    Here in Australia, they put at least 2 and usually 3 tiny explosive devices on the track a couple of hundred metres "up". That way you here the "bang" in plenty of time to get off the track.

    • @MisterMoot
      @MisterMoot Год назад +3

      Can confirm. Living close to the train line, those things frequently scare the crap out of me :)

    • @dennisyoung4631
      @dennisyoung4631 Год назад +3

      Railway “torpedoes”..??

    • @jasonh.8754
      @jasonh.8754 Год назад +2

      Yep, I thought so. Can't believe other places don't seem to use them. I think they're called 'percussion caps'?

    • @Khox19
      @Khox19 Год назад +3

      When I worked on the railway, if a train ran over 3 detonators the driver should apply the emergency braking and stop

    • @chairman823
      @chairman823 Год назад +3

      I remember those percussion caps from when I was a kid. They were used in the fog mainly. Maybe to let the driver know there was a signal coming up and to look out for it. In London in the late 1950's fog was SO thick you really stuggled to see more then a handful of yards.

  • @jankrusat2150
    @jankrusat2150 Год назад +43

    Where was the safety guard? In Germany such a guard has to be posted 100 metres or so away from the construction site, with a loud air horn, to warn his colleagues about approaching trains.

    • @Haz0052-tu7rr
      @Haz0052-tu7rr Год назад +3

      That's the protocol here as well, but it was neglected (I believe)

    • @WilliamMurphy-uv9pm
      @WilliamMurphy-uv9pm Год назад +1

      At 125 MPH, a 100-meter warning seems way too little.

    • @zonzeven
      @zonzeven Год назад +5

      @@WilliamMurphy-uv9pm The safety guard has eyes, he can spot a train before the train passes him .....

    • @trevormillar1576
      @trevormillar1576 Год назад +3

      In Britain the train companies were allowed to abolish safety guards as "an intolerable burden on business".

    • @Wasper216
      @Wasper216 Год назад +2

      Still, not too long ago (summer 2023), 5 rail workers have been killed by an accident with a train in Germany.

  • @Mark-Herbert
    @Mark-Herbert 22 дня назад

    Had something very similar happen to me just after privatisation.
    Working on a blind bend, train came round at 60mph, never moved so fast in my life!

  • @uhlijohn
    @uhlijohn Год назад +3

    In the US MOW/Engineering forces MUST get protection ahead of time before undertaking any work that fouls mainline tracks. On the UPRR it is called a Form B. The Form B is a train order that advises all trains running on sections of mainline that are undergoing maintenance by workmen at specific locations. Even outside contractors near but not on the mainline. In the case of contractors a flagman is provided to communicate with trains running on the mainline. Those sections being worked on by engineering forces are also protected by yellow/red and red boards that prohibit a train from passing the red board until communicating with the foreman in charge of the work.

    • @MN-Hillbilly
      @MN-Hillbilly Год назад

      I was thinking the same. Reading the comments it sounds like in Europe the MOW crew is on their own. I would think the train driver (to use the European term) would want to know when to expect a working crew.

  • @haroldhorseposture9435
    @haroldhorseposture9435 Год назад +82

    Unfortunately, it happens. In the early privatisation days, there was an influx of p-way staff from construction companies . Bricklaying to ballasting. Not seasoned railwaymen. And I seem to recall there were quite a few incidents of lookouts being with the gang instead of where they shoulda been . At this time , an issue I had , that illustrated how bad things were , is that I ran thru a T2 possession. The building site refugees had arranged with the signalman to have possession of the up road , but took the down road as they had no clue. An emergency braking train with horn a-blaring ought to get your attention you'd have thought? Not a bit of it , as they'd finished the job and were going back to their van ,and seeing me smash thru' the red banner and blast the fogs , just waved at me as if nowt unusual had happened. Frightening. It was reported to signalman , control, both company and Network Rail , who got some choice words from me , and bugger all ever happened over it.

    • @SuperMickyChow
      @SuperMickyChow Год назад +7

      I used to drink in the same pub as a gang of lads who did rail work back in the early-mid 90s.
      Some of the stories they used to tell about near misses, accidents and fatalities caused by inexperienced people like those you've described were real eye openers

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam Год назад +1

      Privatisation was a nightmare Contractors/ agency staff who had worked on motorways thought the railway was the same kind of setup. We had a COSS sent to P.way who came into our department depot to ask which line was which because he could not work it out from the sectional appendix. Not long after that the Son in the P.way of our departments Father was killed by a train. His Father and myself were devastated by that accident, that he always blamed on the incompetence of someone from a none railway background who was the COSS on that fatal day. The Son had been appointed lookout that day but the reason he had been on the track was never established.

  • @DouglasCarnall
    @DouglasCarnall Год назад +3

    Introduced on East Coast mainline connecting London and Edinburgh in 1975. Looks slow today compared with French TGV, Japanese Shinkazen and Chinese wonders, but back in the day was a world-beater.

  • @tomm856
    @tomm856 Год назад +2

    I'm a retired rail worker and where the hell is the advanced lookout and the site lookout? Hope who was responsible for this near miss got sacked. When I worked on the main line there was TOW’s that which gave a steady beep when safe but turned to a rapid beat when a train was some distance away, but heading for you, giving you plenty of time to get to a place of safety.

  • @gm9162
    @gm9162 Год назад +29

    Absolutely no excuse for this situation even happening. Those workmen should have known about the train approaching well in advance. Poor communication with the dispatcher.

    • @thebluedaypodcast7020
      @thebluedaypodcast7020 Год назад

      They are not in constant contact with the dispatcher, this seemed to be a case of the lookout failing at his job.

    • @brianmcintyre8563
      @brianmcintyre8563 Год назад

      When I worked on the railroad, you were supposed to be clear of the tracks 5 min before the train arrived. I would blame the forman. He has radio contact with the train.

    • @thebluedaypodcast7020
      @thebluedaypodcast7020 Год назад

      We very rarely use radios anymore, and on a line with a max speed of 100mph it's 10 seconds before train passes, literally just done my pts renewal last week.

    • @jonathanbaird8109
      @jonathanbaird8109 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@thebluedaypodcast7020 How are things like this supposed to work in the UK? I see the description says they were taking unplanned work which seems baffling. In the US and as I understand it, this work would've been submitted to the relevant people at least the day before the work was to be done. Crews going through the area would receive a track bulletin when they entered service notifying them of the work limits with signs posted at the limits in each direction. Crews would either have to stop or be talked through the form B limits by the gang foreman. This would also apply if the gang had track and time and the Form B was protecting movements on adjacent tracks, I believe. I don't understand how people could be on the rails without all crews and dispatchers knowing about it.ng these signs is almost equivalent to a SPAD).

    • @thebluedaypodcast7020
      @thebluedaypodcast7020 9 месяцев назад

      @jonathanbaird8109 description is wrong, all work is planned, if something was noticed to be "wrong" with track the line would be closed immediate before any work was carried out

  • @jbjacobs9514
    @jbjacobs9514 Год назад +18

    Parts of their jumpsuits are a different color now.

  • @Demun1649
    @Demun1649 Год назад +13

    HSE regulations demand that any PW crew have lookouts, both directions, with bullhorn alarms, to protect the workers. Probably, the lack of lookouts is down to the TOCs greed removing a worker who is doing nothing, in their terms, as desk pushers, and the accountants will cheer the savings.

    • @Bungle2010
      @Bungle2010 Год назад

      WTF does it have to do with TOCs?

    • @AndreiTupolev
      @AndreiTupolev Год назад +1

      How the hell can the TOC possibly have any responsibility? That's all down to Network Rail

    • @Demun1649
      @Demun1649 Год назад +1

      @@Bungle2010 Because they decide how much money is spent on PW crews. "You know nothing, Jon Snow."

    • @Bungle2010
      @Bungle2010 Год назад

      @@Demun1649 Er no they don't. It's got NOTHING to do with them..........

    • @Demun1649
      @Demun1649 Год назад +1

      @@Bungle2010 Which TOC are you the PR person for. Budgets are required for every aspect of ensuring trains run. Budgets have been reduced throughout the entire existence of the TOCs, year-on-year less spend. Staff, and ancillary services, are included in those budgets. You, clearly, are not trained as an auditor.

  • @briansaiditsoitmustbetrue4206
    @briansaiditsoitmustbetrue4206 11 месяцев назад +1

    The person in charge of the crew should have been sacked for this... TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE ... Please be aware this train CAN NOT just stop like a car.... I don't think people understand this.
    120 MPH is a mile in just 30 Seconds.
    This was a total lack of safety for the crew working on the rail tracks... The person in charge of safety should have lost their job AND been fined for this.

  • @BritishRail60062
    @BritishRail60062 5 месяцев назад +1

    Why wasn't the circuit protection clips used to set the automatic signal to danger? No lookout present either? I hope this doesn't happen again and I feel bad for the driver that was driving that train that day. This is a gross neglect of safety and I hope that an investigation was taken after this. No train driver should have to face the ordeal of things like this. I blame the manager/overseer on this one. The driver is innocent and probably traumatised from it!

  • @nightw4tchman
    @nightw4tchman 2 года назад +20

    What the hell!? Even if the barriers were down for a train coming the other way you'd move your men out of the 4 foot in case another train was approaching whilst the barriers were down! No excuse for this, the COS should be in trouble!

    • @modelsteamers671
      @modelsteamers671 Год назад +1

      It might not have been the Coss at fault.

    • @WilliamMurphy-uv9pm
      @WilliamMurphy-uv9pm Год назад

      What is a COS? Acronyms some are familiar with are total confusion for others. I was alway taught to explain ALL acronyms the very first time they are used and then use just the acronym thereafter to save time and ink. Silly concept but it really helps others. Thanks.

    • @modelsteamers671
      @modelsteamers671 Год назад

      @WilliamMurphy-uv9pm in the UK a COSS is the Controller of site safety. Basically that means he is the person who sets up the safe method of working.

    • @WilliamMurphy-uv9pm
      @WilliamMurphy-uv9pm Год назад +1

      @@modelsteamers671 Thanks. Overall in charge is some foreman or site supervisor who makes ALL final decisions I'd guess. Total responsibility of all workers on site. Is the COSS liable if safety turns out to be deficient? Or is that person just a staff member of the overall site boss having specialized knowledge of safety issues and laws? Sorry to keep you hopping but you are so well informed. Thanks. Happy Holidays to you and any family.

    • @modelsteamers671
      @modelsteamers671 Год назад

      @WilliamMurphy-uv9pm The Coss is the person who decides on the method of work with regard to safety, he often is also the person in charge of the technical/engineering aspect of the work but that isn't always the case.
      The Coss does take overall responsibility for the safety of all staff under his control and can be liable if things go wrong.
      In larger engineering operations its usual for a Coss to be appointed to each smaller work group and they can all be subject to different working arrangements

  • @Maverick_31
    @Maverick_31 Год назад +3

    Something tells these guys didn’t have a permit from the dispatcher to foul the track. The railroad I work for in Canada, train crews have what we call a TGBO that lists all of our restrictions that we’ll encounter on our trip including Rule 42s which are foremen occupying the tracks and they’ll place a yellow and red flag two miles (if possible) before a red flag which marks their working limits. Crews must be given permission from the foreman to proceed through his or her limits. The thing is the rail traffic controller (RTC) must give the foreman permission to occupy the track in the first place. I’m assuming that the UK railways have something similar. That leads me to believe the crew here had no idea workers were fouling the track.

    • @lolzlolz69
      @lolzlolz69 4 месяца назад

      You shouldn't assume, because you maybe wrong...as is the case here.

  • @thedave7760
    @thedave7760 Год назад +14

    They were 10 meters away from the road crossing gates and the gates were down they didn't need a look out the gates being down should tell them that there is a train approaching.
    Totally the workers fault.

    • @modelsteamers671
      @modelsteamers671 Год назад

      You can't tell from the video who's fault it was.

    • @tredworthtt120
      @tredworthtt120 Год назад

      If there's a problem with gates or barriers they stay down to road traffic sometimes with police attendance if possible

    • @modelsteamers671
      @modelsteamers671 Год назад

      @@tredworthtt120 it depends on the nature of the fault

    • @lolzlolz69
      @lolzlolz69 Месяц назад

      A level crossing is not, and should not, be used as part of a safe system of work.

  • @glpilpi6209
    @glpilpi6209 Год назад +4

    This was a shambles . Luckily no one was killed and the driver didn't have the nightmare of what easily could have happened.

  • @caseychaos5216
    @caseychaos5216 5 лет назад +42

    No look out on the far Right could have seen the train at least 300 meters away

    • @simonbone
      @simonbone Год назад +1

      At 200 km/h, that would give you about 5 seconds warning.

  • @kristinajendesen7111
    @kristinajendesen7111 Год назад +19

    We were shown this on a driver's safety day briefing several years ago, shocking. I had a few close ones with track workers, the highest speed one 90mph approaching Andover.

  • @johncamp2567
    @johncamp2567 Год назад +24

    At 125mph, the train is moving just under one-sixth of the speed of sound (770mph/1239kmh), further reducing reaction time before you hear its approaching.

    • @bennoakes2477
      @bennoakes2477 Год назад +4

      not related

    • @incandescentwithrage
      @incandescentwithrage Год назад +5

      And that train was definitely not going 125mph

    • @m140i_james
      @m140i_james Год назад +3

      @@incandescentwithrage Why wasn't it?

    • @Veeter99
      @Veeter99 Год назад +1

      @@m140i_james It's observable. If you've ever driven 80-100 MPH in a car, you know that train is not going faster.

    • @v12tommy
      @v12tommy Год назад +1

      The speed of sound is much higher through steel. You can hear supersonic rocket sleds before they approach, as the sound travels through the rails faster than the vehicle, even though the vehicle itself is supersonic.

  • @oliverjumelle
    @oliverjumelle Год назад +6

    Would they not have heard the alarms from the level crossing?

  • @Coywoof
    @Coywoof Год назад +4

    This is why the lookout is only allowed to be performing the duties of the lookout. Not supposed to be working with the rest of the group. Assuming they even had a lookout? Very scary 😢

  • @Sgt_Bill_T_Co
    @Sgt_Bill_T_Co Год назад +4

    My brother was hit by a train because the lookout 'went to relieve himself' - my bro was struck by the running board, he survived but......

    • @srvntlilly
      @srvntlilly Год назад +3

      That's terrifying. So glad he's ok. 😮

  • @tomm856
    @tomm856 Месяц назад +1

    Safety standards have dropped on the railway. There should of been a site lookout and a advanced lookout - if near a bend - in place before anyone went onto the track. TOW'S should of been activated also. The driver would have reported this near miss.

  • @dennyferguson7854
    @dennyferguson7854 Год назад +2

    I don’t know if they still use detonators ( I think they were called torpedoes in the US) attached to the track to warn drivers to lower their speed…..if not,maybe they should be reintroduced? Sometimes the old ways were the best.

    • @stace3037
      @stace3037 Год назад

      Yes they still use them but not for routine work, only for emergencies such as a collision in fog. Planned work should obviously be signalled by appropriate speed limits etc rather than by explosives.

    • @johnnyFrancis-d1q
      @johnnyFrancis-d1q Год назад

      We do but only to protect the line, we use 3.

  • @Icehso140
    @Icehso140 Год назад +4

    Having driven electric trains, I know there are systems in place where transponders can be placed at sections of the track where speed needs to be reduced or trains need to be alerted to situations ahead. The onboard computer can pick up these transponder signals and alert the driver/engineer giving him a limited time to respond until the onboard system takes over and slows the train to a safer speed or shuts the train down completely as if a deadman had been tripped. On a slower passenger train I get 3 seconds to respond when the speed limit is exceeded for a section of track. Why these systems are not installed throughout, especially when entering a curve in the inner-city, is anybody's guess. Just for the record, I'm guessing money and possible vandalism to the transponders.

    • @daveb0789
      @daveb0789 Год назад +1

      That has got nothing to do with what happened here.

    • @Icehso140
      @Icehso140 Год назад

      No kidding Sherlock? My comment was about railway safety in general. @@daveb0789

  • @TowMater603
    @TowMater603 Год назад +2

    why was that track not at restricted speed ?

    • @WilliamMurphy-uv9pm
      @WilliamMurphy-uv9pm Год назад +1

      That's what I wondered as well. Different strokes for different folks I guess. I believe we likely have folks from several countries commenting here. Every country does thongs differently for a whole host of reasons. You would think that rational minds would come up with similar ideas to protect folks. Guess it doesn't happen that way. Or maybe we are talking apples and oranges. Not quite the same. Don't know.

  • @jessestarks3128
    @jessestarks3128 Год назад +2

    Definitely a seriously close call.

  • @c4715
    @c4715 Год назад +3

    Ridiculous! How could this happen!?

  • @3040-f9g
    @3040-f9g Год назад +2

    Wow. Where's the lookout. Where's the emergency speed restriction. Where's the PICOP/PIC. Utter disgrace. I can tell you now, this is the direct result of privatisation of the UK rail network.

  • @Wildstar40
    @Wildstar40 Год назад

    At least one of them was yelling like Dustin Hoffman: "Hey I'm walking here !"

  • @rcnelson
    @rcnelson Год назад +1

    Supposedly way back when if a train came upon a distracted crew the shout would be "hot rail!" Everyone was immediately to drop everything and jump.

  • @nickk6518
    @nickk6518 Год назад +1

    The husband of a cousin of mine was hit and killed by a train in 1925 while working on the tracks. His body was so badly mutilated, the authorities would not let the family see him.

    • @gregdolecki8530
      @gregdolecki8530 Год назад

      1925?

    • @nickk6518
      @nickk6518 Год назад

      @@gregdolecki8530 That is correct. He was killed in 1925. His wife was on my great grand uncle's side of the family and she was one of 13 or 14 children. Even my paternal grandfather was born in 1889!

    • @kaspervestergaard2383
      @kaspervestergaard2383 Год назад

      They fucked like rabbits my lordy. @@nickk6518

  • @sarahwagland1559
    @sarahwagland1559 Год назад +2

    I received look out training when I worked for the railway but refused to do it as I couldn't bear the responsibility.

    • @srvntlilly
      @srvntlilly Год назад

      That's understandable. Don't know, but I think I might do the same.

    • @paulnolan1352
      @paulnolan1352 Год назад

      Ultimately Rail safety is not fail safe. Procedure and practice are implemented but shouldn’t be accepted as an absolute guarantee of safety.

  • @phillipg1588
    @phillipg1588 9 месяцев назад

    Here in Australia every NEAR track maintenance site has what's known as a "Lookout". His job (and only job), is to be in a position where he can see approaching trains and full view of the work gang. He will sound an air horn to warn workers of an approaching train. Now if the sighting of approaching trains is too restrictive then there will be an Outer Lookout with two-way communication with the Inner Lookout. Now if the work requires actual work ON track then there will be inner and outer flagmen deployed using detonators to warn train crew to slow down. The inner flagman can actually hold a red flag to warn the driver to stop (after 3 detonators have been run over by the train - train will come to a complete stop).

    • @mando686
      @mando686 17 дней назад

      This work group was doing unplanned work. They didn't notify anyone, so they would have had no track protection. They should have a least posted a lookout.
      In Qld, Australia, there is no lookout when there is a LPA, because the system of safe working has been suspended. Meaning that the PPO is in charge of that section of track and any movement into and out of it. The LPA is protected by signals held at stop (with track circuit clamps), detonators and Entry/Exit LPA stop boards. It is different in each state, but the principle is the same.
      I'm a former Qld track worker and train controller.

  • @DarthCoco
    @DarthCoco Год назад +1

    I know this video has no sound from the situation, but that would have made it even more intense to watch. 😳 😬

  • @RD-ij2sz
    @RD-ij2sz Год назад +2

    Why cant there be a camera system which programmed to sound horn when some thing other than tracks is captured on it .

  • @thebrummierailenthusiasts5329
    @thebrummierailenthusiasts5329 Год назад +1

    They should’ve had a lookout to blow the horn when the train is approaching and then move to the safety of the cess and then acknowledge the train drivers warning by raising your hand

  • @TheRealTrains806UK
    @TheRealTrains806UK 8 месяцев назад

    Where is the location?

  • @johnmehaffey9953
    @johnmehaffey9953 Месяц назад

    Yep all those hours and days on health and safety really pays off,

  • @FarmYard-Trains
    @FarmYard-Trains 5 месяцев назад

    There was a horn in the original video, there's no sound here. You'd have heard the train itself if there was any.

  • @thetools.3353
    @thetools.3353 Год назад

    I’m a retired formal level 2 local accident and incident investigator (local being specific to a delivery unit and route so quite a large geographical area and level 2 being the formal part of the job) and the last three incidents I investigated had similar issues to this incident. That being NWR employees treating contractors staff with utter contempt and threatening them with their jobs if they did not do as they were told.
    It’s typical of an authoritarian or autocratic leadership style.

  • @AW-kr9fl
    @AW-kr9fl 2 года назад +10

    What happened here? No look out, TOWS or LOWS? Did they ignore both the train horn and the warnings from the nearby level crossing?

  • @Dan-o3m6e
    @Dan-o3m6e Месяц назад

    I’m not sure if it was because I was looking for them but I saw them way before they even moved, if the horn had sounded sooner could have been less close. A lot of questions need answering in this video.
    I am for sure not blaming the driver

  • @sharptoothtrex4486
    @sharptoothtrex4486 2 года назад +3

    Wowzers! That is a close call!

  • @DennisHughes-h8b
    @DennisHughes-h8b Год назад +1

    Disgraceful. Total ignorance or lack of a risk assessment. I always thought that a small incendiary device was placed on the track well back from the workplace so the bang would warn them of the danger. Apart from that, who the hell had the time schedule for the trains?

  • @petersampson4635
    @petersampson4635 14 дней назад +1

    No detonators??? Madness!

    • @Wherethehellarewegoing
      @Wherethehellarewegoing 13 дней назад

      @@petersampson4635 Dets only placed if a full worksite is set up. This looks like a tiny job, maybe just an inspection. Lookouts. I didn't see a single lookout and, on a curve, I'd want 2. COSS really dropped the ball herr

  • @deltanovember1672
    @deltanovember1672 6 лет назад +7

    Where’s the LKT?

  • @trevormillar1576
    @trevormillar1576 Год назад

    Train: NEE NAW!
    Track workers: Nee hee! Nicotine-stained shirt-tails!

  • @tomhaskett5161
    @tomhaskett5161 Год назад

    In the past, didn't the foreman or lookout always keep one foot on the rails to be able to feel the vibrations of a train?

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam Год назад

      Thats a myth. You cannot feel anything through the rails.

  • @angkasal7333
    @angkasal7333 Год назад

    Is the sound edited or the train doesn't come with a horn?

  • @megastack95
    @megastack95 Год назад +4

    Normally you can hear and feel an oncoming train in the tracks as they vibrate and make a hissing sound. I guess they were making a lot of noise or had ear protection on.

    • @firestarteronyoutube5542
      @firestarteronyoutube5542 Год назад +2

      about 4 or so years back think it was 2 workers got killed near Port Talbot by a GWR HST with no lookout. Also using heavy machinery so they couldn't hear much. I thought they were supposed to have changed that?

  • @jamieb8112
    @jamieb8112 Год назад +2

    They’re standing near a railway crossing, surely the bells and warning lights indicated a train was approaching?

    • @xaiano794
      @xaiano794 Год назад +3

      it was a full barrier crossing and was closed for several minutes before the train arrived, they were breaking procedures to get more work in and ignoring the crossing siren.

  • @ThreenaddiesRexMegistus
    @ThreenaddiesRexMegistus Год назад +1

    They shouldn’t be lookout working on a high-speed network! The sighting distance also looks sub-optimal. This is criminally irresponsible and the network operator should never allow this. Probably another example of “we’ve always done it this way” and the conditions and speeds have outpaced their procedures.

    • @xaiano794
      @xaiano794 Год назад +1

      it wasn't - they were operating with TOWS and were breaking procedures to get the work done faster

  • @shaunwarburton5974
    @shaunwarburton5974 Год назад +1

    What was the gang leader doing while all this was going on, he is supposed to look after the crew's safety?

  • @captainminecraft631
    @captainminecraft631 Год назад

    No one noticed that the grade crossing was active? Someone must’ve heard the siren, or seen the gates lower.

  • @johnbarnes5237
    @johnbarnes5237 Год назад

    I was playing my bagpipes for a wedding in Michigan and the bride and groom asked me to pipe them and their guests from the wedding site to the reception sit, which involved crossing some railroad tracks. I didn't think any thing of it. I began playing and crossed the tracks. When I turned around, I saw no one behind me. They were standing on the other side of the tracks. I was wondering what was going on when, out of nowhere, a passenger train flew by doing at least 100 mph. I damn near fainted......

  • @pootispiker2866
    @pootispiker2866 10 месяцев назад

    Now that's what I call precision scheduled!

  • @g4joe
    @g4joe Год назад +9

    A women wrote to The Daily Mirror.
    "The railworkers are the laziest workers in Britain, they lean on their shovels as the trains go by".
    What the F*!# did she expect them to do??? Die under the train.

    • @Redesign24
      @Redesign24 2 месяца назад +1

      A woman. You surprised? ☕

  • @oddities-whatnot
    @oddities-whatnot 7 месяцев назад

    The tran driver must have feared the worst, being completely unable to do anything about the situation. Whoever was in charge of those workers showed incompetence of the highest order.

  • @Gill-Leeds
    @Gill-Leeds 10 месяцев назад

    Thought there was suito be a look out on the track when guy's are working on the track, where was he

  • @KeiranCounsellKC1994
    @KeiranCounsellKC1994 Год назад +3

    I thought network rail employed the use of a machine to tell them when a train was coming, Im pretty sure I saw that as a thing from a video from the 90s

    • @bmxerqf882
      @bmxerqf882 Год назад +1

      Even so its still reliant on the workers paying attention to the warning

    • @KeiranCounsellKC1994
      @KeiranCounsellKC1994 Год назад

      @@bmxerqf882 thats very true I suppose, I mean thats not a warning I would like to miss thats for sure, I would make sure it was loud enough to be heard 2 miles away

    • @E34Jimmy
      @E34Jimmy Год назад +2

      Yes but workers need to look out, it's not a matter of "this machine will keep us safe" because it wont.

    • @drillerkiller
      @drillerkiller Год назад +1

      There is ATWS, TOWS, LOWS but that must be in the safe system of work. These guys simply broke the rules

    • @paulnolan1352
      @paulnolan1352 Год назад

      @@drillerkiller No these have been superseded now it’s Zolna. A Backpack Battery operated! Via Mobile phones (think hilly areas)!

  • @Gus0898uk
    @Gus0898uk 3 месяца назад +1

    Was their a laundry nearby? also the train driver would have needed one. Unbelievable in this day and age that incidents like this can happen.

  • @boossersgarage3239
    @boossersgarage3239 Год назад

    how is that even possible. slow order? maintenance of way?

  • @massimookissed1023
    @massimookissed1023 Год назад +2

    Turned their orange pants brown.

  • @KingmanRoss
    @KingmanRoss Год назад +1

    Definitely a communication problem.

  • @johnbrown9092
    @johnbrown9092 Год назад

    Curved track, there should have been an advanced lookout and obviously a site lookout. Strikes me certain people need retraining asap. This from a retired NR Project Track Engineer.

    • @xaiano794
      @xaiano794 Год назад

      they were supposed to be working under TOWS but were breaking regulations with 1 of them acting as a lookout so they could keep working until the train was closer - in order to get the work done faster. The man acting as a lookout became distracted and as they were ignoring the tows, they didn't realise the train was approaching until it was on top of them.

    • @johnbrown9092
      @johnbrown9092 Год назад +1

      @@xaiano794 Could have been much worse!

    • @xaiano794
      @xaiano794 Год назад +1

      @@johnbrown9092 definitely, breaking regulations on the railway can easily be fatal

  • @paulcrawley5687
    @paulcrawley5687 10 месяцев назад

    No look out and No capsules set out on the track to alert the team , the capsules are copper and make the sound of a bullet . what has happened to HnS in the uk

  • @PRATEEKsirji
    @PRATEEKsirji Год назад +2

    watched it in 2x and train was running at 250 mph

  • @cabinetdecuriositestechniq3059

    Privatization, private, profit. Safety for privatized railways is an expensive item that must be reduced to a minimum to generate maximum profit and remunerate shareholders. We therefore respect safety for 6 months then we reduce these costs again until the next accident. Look at the Lac Mégantic train accident in Canada in 2013. We can therefore say that a private railway is simply deprived of safety.

  • @michaelwalker1145
    @michaelwalker1145 2 месяца назад

    The quickest that lot as ever moved.😂

  • @RCassinello
    @RCassinello Год назад +1

    Why did they think the crossing lights and barriers were activated - for fun?

  • @erniea4424
    @erniea4424 Год назад

    It makes me wonder whether the workers had notified dispatch....

  • @martinday2815
    @martinday2815 Год назад

    Not apportioning blame. Is there a start of shift notice provided by the train operating company to the driver showing any work on that route?

  • @tungstenkid2271
    @tungstenkid2271 Год назад

    Were they rail workers or contractors doing other work nearby?

    • @Bungle2010
      @Bungle2010 Год назад

      Other work nearby? What? 🤔

  • @Jamrodleon
    @Jamrodleon 6 месяцев назад

    Where is the Foreman (RWIC, EIC, Flagger, Watchman lookout)? No one out here providing any protection.

  • @davidvincent1093
    @davidvincent1093 Год назад +1

    Someone forgot to get the train the slow orders as an old foamer now I have seen this more than once when I was a conductor

  • @stevewild4449
    @stevewild4449 Год назад +2

    What happened to using detonators

    • @stilusfractus7930
      @stilusfractus7930 Год назад

      I don't think that would be feasible on a busy line, where a train passes every few minutes.

  • @catastrophic009
    @catastrophic009 10 месяцев назад

    I am guessing the train driver DID sound his horn from a distance but those guys should be a lot more aware !!

  • @markunavail8510
    @markunavail8510 Год назад

    I WAS WAITING AT A CROSSING ONE TIME AND THIS KID ON A BIKE CAME UP AND WAITED ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SAFETY ARM BUT HE WASN'T ON THE TRACKS WHEN THE TRAIN CAME IT SUCKED HIM UNDER i WAS SHOCKED BUT NOTHING ANYONE COULD DO AND THE BIGGEST SHOCK WAS ONE OF HIS LEGS LANDED ON MY HOOD.

    • @WilliamMurphy-uv9pm
      @WilliamMurphy-uv9pm Год назад

      I know it isn't funny but we commentors are beating this video to death. I will try to insert some more gruesome humor by asking if you got to keep the leg as some sort of memento of the event. It likely was less pleasant for the kid and kid's family. But you saw it up front and personal. Horrible. Must have affected your sleep for a time or perhaps you still have an occasional replay in your head. Sorry for what you, and others, went through. What everyone went through on that day.

    • @markunavail8510
      @markunavail8510 Год назад

      @@WilliamMurphy-uv9pm THAT ONE PALES TO THE ACCIDENT i SAW IN VEGAS I WAS AT A RED LIGHT AND THIS CAR THEY USE TO CALL THEM OR MAYBE STILL DO IT WAS A VW BUG ANYWAY THE BUG RAN THE RED LIGHT AND T-BONED A CAR THE IMPACT WAS SO HARD HIS PASSENGER WENT THUR THE WINDSHIELD IT CUT HIS HEAD CLEAN OFF THE HEAD ROLLED ACCROSS THE HOOD AND IT FELL ON THE STREET THAT IS THE ONE I STILL HAVE NIGHTMARES ABOUT !!!!!!!

  • @rhettcorbett3346
    @rhettcorbett3346 Год назад +1

    Where are the detonators on track to warn of approaching train ? Or blowing the horn ?

  • @thechilledonion9313
    @thechilledonion9313 Год назад

    They were next to a level crossing and no one heard it ringing?

  • @des_smith7658
    @des_smith7658 Год назад +1

    Wearing ear protection can be a dangerous thing

    • @adrianparker-e9f
      @adrianparker-e9f Год назад

      If the workers can't hear any warnings because of the noise of their own work, are there any visual warnings close to them, such as lights ? Is there a lookout with the work gang that can physically indicate for them to move when the other lookout further away signals ?🤔

    • @des_smith7658
      @des_smith7658 10 месяцев назад

      Beware of the Engine..
      As the sign once said

  • @Extra82_
    @Extra82_ 24 дня назад

    This is the driver at Fault. Train drivers are supposed to horn at anyone who wears a hi-viz jumpsuit or jacket on the side of the rail. If it hadn't had been for the fast reaction of the workers, the driver wouldn't be driving anymore.

    • @mando686
      @mando686 17 дней назад

      No, it is not! It is the track workers responsibility to gain track protection before entering the danger zone and working on track.
      They "skimped on safety to get the job done more quickly"
      Had they been in Qld, Australia where the tilt train runs at 160 kmph they would have been dead or had they been on one of the high speed rail lines in Europe they would have been dead.
      It is the job of the PO (Protection Officer/Supervisor) to gain track protection before carrying out track work.
      They didn't even have Look Out, TOA, TWA or LPA.
      I say this as a former track worker and train controller.

    • @Wherethehellarewegoing
      @Wherethehellarewegoing 13 дней назад

      The video is silent as it approaches the workers. No way to tell if the horn was sounded. This is the COSS screw up. There is absolutely no Safe System of Work in place here. You'd want a Lookout, naybe even 2 at the very least (it's on a curve). If anything driver should be allowed time off with full pay due to severe stress

  • @bobbobsin3202
    @bobbobsin3202 Год назад

    80 mph capital corridor train almost got me in Richmond,ca😵

  • @bayareakid4775
    @bayareakid4775 Год назад

    It doesn't look like they were doing actual track work or there would've been slow speed orders and flagging in advance of the work. I noticed equipment way off on the side and it looks like that's where they were working. Maybe something got their attention on the track itself and they were curious and stepped out on the track, carelessly forgetting that when you are on the track way you must be cognizant at all times that a train can be on you in no time and from any direction. If whatever railroad company this is was aware that employees or contractors were working in the area, it probably would've been a good idea to have slow speed orders in that area, either by human flagging, a series of yellow lanterns or flags, or even taking that track out of service if feasible.

  • @peterswires8439
    @peterswires8439 10 месяцев назад

    The screen says it's a Virgin train, so maybe the track workers were assuming it would be at least half an hour late.

  • @peterd788
    @peterd788 Год назад +1

    Surely, there should have been detonators on the line?

  • @justincase6645
    @justincase6645 Год назад

    Ridiculous, where is there evidence of any safety protocols?

  • @dylancarter1831
    @dylancarter1831 8 месяцев назад

    The lookout should have informed them, mind you I can see why this is serious, and goes to show that the railway workers jobs, despite training and warnings can still be a dangerous profession.

    • @mando686
      @mando686 17 дней назад

      They had no lookout...

  • @BoogaBoy-wq3ye
    @BoogaBoy-wq3ye Год назад +2

    I bet they were sacked in the morning , any near misses are a stackable affence 😂

  • @tonydelaney3536
    @tonydelaney3536 Год назад +1

    Stupid part is they know a train is coming because the road barrier has come down to stop the traffic - are the all, collectively stupid??

  • @admiralcapn
    @admiralcapn Год назад

    There was a serious de-assing of the area there!

  • @CarlForman-p4z
    @CarlForman-p4z 6 месяцев назад

    This is awful total lack of control from the COSS, no lookout posted. COSS should have lost his ticket for this.

  • @chriswaring5565
    @chriswaring5565 Год назад +1

    THEY WERE LUCKY NO ONE GOT KILLED 😮