WARRIOR NUN: how NOT to write a chosen one
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Warrior Nun is like how to make the worst chosen one protagonist of all time 101.
NOTE: Since people keep mentioning this the reason why I said Ava was white-passing was that I don't know her actual ethnic background. I know she is Portuguese and I know she's also Brazillian. She could be white Brazillian, she could not be. I don't know what her parents look like and genetics are weird XD. I am aware there are white Brazilians guys. xx
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Since people keep mentioning this the reason why I said Ava was white-passing was that I don't know her actual background. I know she is Portuguese and I know she's also Brazillian. She could be white Brazillian she could not be. I don't know what her parents look like and genetics are weird XD. I am aware there are white Brazilians guys.
Well, next time, do a proper research before commenting on someone's identity background. Not all latina/brazilian has sunkissed skin tone. Not all race has to color in certain way in order to be the race.
You sounds like a racist.
The criticism is missing the point. You can be Latinx, mixed-race, whatever; but if you're white-passing, you can still benefit from white privilege. What she's saying is true. Ava's actress is a white-passing lead surrounded by a predominantly non-white supporting cast, and that looks problematic. IS.
This idea that if you're Latinx you cannot benefit from white privilege needs to stop.
And this is coming from a light-skinned, mixed-race Puerto Rican.
@@cmmiestcat Calling someone white-passing who is white-passing is not racism. And if you don't know the race of someone, but they appear white it's ok to recognize that especially when discussing Hollywood/Film & Television where leads are mostly white/white-passing. It's important to recognize colorism (which prevalent across all communities) and the casting choices of a franchise especially when all of the supporting characters are POC. You're being inflammatory and you should look up the definition of racism. It's best to calm down first and think about what you want to say so that you may communicate effectively
Hi, Melina! I'm a Portuguese/Brazilian studies scholar, and from an academic perspective, your decision in language was the most accurate choice. What's hard is that the US conception of race/ethnicity is so high strung that white Latinos are not considered white in the US, and once their Latin ethnicity is revealed, they face the same discrimination as non-white Latinos. However, white Latinos are considered white in their countries of origin. I've had friends from Brazil say that they never realized they "weren't white" until they moved to the United States and experienced racism based on ethnic origin. Also, further complicating things, this the fact that the word/ethnicity "latino" has a different definition in North America as it does in South America and in Europe. In the Americas, it is most commonly used to refer to Latin American people, regionally exclusive of certain non-Spanish speaking countries, whereas in Europe, "latino" refers to Portugal, Spain and Italy, and any of their former colonies. It's a much more complicated issue with a lot more nuance than what the comments have shown.
@@cmmiestcat As someone who is brazilian she is white-passing, latino/brazillian is an ethnicity and not a race, her white privilege is very real both in my country and in the US
We need to talk about Mary being completely in love with the previous warrior nun
For real though
It annoyed me so much that they implied it, but clearly didn't wanna commit to it/confirm it.
Thank you. I have been real pressed about that for weeks now. I was just like admit to it.
yes THANK YOU I was shocked when they never confirmed it, like, am I imaging things?
@@clairem.5499 The other thing was that they implied one of the other nuns was gay and was sent to Catholic boarding school to "fix her". They never said it out loud but it was so heavily implied that it's pretty hard to take any other meaning out of it. That makes me think that maybe they weren't allowed to say it. That some exec stepped in and told them to cut it from the script. Instead of cutting it outright they just made it implied. Which isn't great but better than the alternative.
As an atheist and skeptic, nothing pisses me off more than stubborn skeptics existing in a provably supernatural world. All it does is further that untrue stereotype of skeptics as denialists. If I lived in the world of Warrior Nun, or Supernatural, or X-Files, I wouldn't be a skeptic about that stuff. Granted, I wouldn't "believe in" any of it, either, but that's because I wouldn't have to. I'd be *interacting* with it! It'd be provably, demonstrably, visibly *real*. It'd be leaving testable evidence on reality that scientists could come in and study. There'd be whole fields of science dedicated to it.
Skepticism is *not* denialism. It is simply questioning a lack of evidence. That's literally it. No good biologist is "skeptical" of Evolution. It's a proven fact. No good climatologist is "skeptical" of Anthropogenic Climate Change. It's a proven fact.
In the supernatural/paranormal world of Warrior Nun, the existence of said supernatural/paranormal things would be a *proven fact*. Genuine, good, actually scientifically-minded skeptics would not be in denial of their existence. I would very much love for Hollywood to stop playing up that wildly inaccurate stereotype of skeptics.
Amen
Lol
@@BeautifulEarthJa That was perfect.
Nathan, I might need to screenshot that for a future discussion!
Nathan Hevenstone Ex-fucking-actly. I personally believe in God but I completely understand those who don’t because there is no concrete visible evidence of his presence. However I do believe that if I didn’t believe in Aliens and the muthafuckin Aliens show up with a ufo and take my ass to space. I’m not gonna be like this isn’t real and I don’t believe in that stuff when I’m literally experiencing it first hand. That would be stupid lol Ava pissed me off for most of the season if not all
"How are supernatural horror movies made by Hollywood inherently Christian?"
Because most of their viewers are christian and would have some problems in understanding cultural tropes of other religions?
Warrior Nun was a thing that passed the time, but not much more than that. The plot didn't really start until the last episode.
and they didnt even have the decency to oroperly finish the season finale.
totally agree, warrior nun was a fine thing to watch while knitting the entire time and not really absorb that much of
I swear they did that to increase chances for the second season.
It wasted my time...I binged it thinking...it's going to get better with each ep but nope, god not even any action haha well nothing good
I agree, the last episode makes me want a season two but I would never recommend s1 to anyone 💀
The voiceover was EGREGIOUS imo, it made me feel that not only did the show not trust the audience to understand what was going on, but it made Ava seem childish
She is childish. Her very personality was based around her spitefulness over her situation and in response to her abuse by the nuns. As for the voiceover, they tried to emulate a comic/novel with first-person pov feeling. Like in Scott pilgrim, or Sucker punch. The problem is that Ava is a dumbass and not just because of her upbringing
Ava is childish. Her whole thing throughout half the series is that she’s emotionally and socially stunted because she was paralyzed and suck in an orphanage watching tv. She has had no real experiences and no real relationships. I thought the voice over was bad writing too. But I don’t think it makes Ava seem childish is a valid complaint because the character is supposed to be perceived as self centered and childish at least at first.
I knew it was gonna be a hate/cringe-watch when the Hot Boy was talking about wealth inequality (the first time I got interested bc I thought the show was actually gonna try to say something 🤡) and Eva's inner monologue literally starts in /over/ him saying "just keep talking pretty boy, I just wanna kiss those lips" Like, it's 2020. Read the room.
Also, just like, a baffling choice to have the protagonist interrupt what could have been a nice bonding moment to tell the audience that she's objectifying him.
@boulderarms I mean the guy was poor and was just crashing at rich people's houses.
i knew right there i would NOT enjoy the show. i kept going forward and i was right, i got frustrated and just abandoned the show
oh my god, yes. the director called it feminist because this time around it's the guy who gets reduced to his hotness. they really thought they did something here lmao completely ignoring that a) objectifying anybody is not okay, and b) it maybe wouldve had more impact if the dude was white too, but now it's just fetishism
Can we also talk about the way they handled language in the show? Maybe it's because I'm Spanish myself but I was cringing the whole show because of this. If you go out of your way to make the show set in Spain, why is everyone speaking in English basically all the time? All the locals speak perfect English, the nuns barely speak Spanish despite living there for years, everyone in that weird science company also speaks English and without an accent... And there were mistakes all the time like having the name of the convent written in English.
Besides that, I don't hate that it's set in a city like Málaga instead of Madrid or Barcelona. But it is kinda weird that both a super advanced international company and a secret Catholic order whose members presumably travel throughout the world have their headquarters in what's basically a touristy beach city.
It should have been set at the Vatican!
Honestly if i was to make a movie in Spain i'd prefer Malaga over Madrid, Madrid is cool and all but Beach > all.
@@timokohler6631 I think a city like Valencia would've fit better. You still have the beach but also a bigger historical district and it's a bigger and more modern city.
@Pomegranate What subjects do you mean?
That’s something you could say for most western/American television set in non English speaking countries. It’s done out of convenience for the primary English speaking audience.
As a disabled person, the "disability being magically cured" trope pisses me off so much. Let us be heroes the way we are, dammit
You can't be a warrior nun and be handicap
Kxrrin Why tho?
@@sugarpearl9781 because they need their legs. Have you not seen the show?
Um not be offensive... But... It's fantasy...magic can do anything... Literally anything so why shouldn't cure a broke back lol you are being a bit to real with a show about nuns killing metal demons lol
If I remember correctly, the old superhero tv show Mantis? is about an African American Tony Stark like fella who was in an accident and had to live in a wheel chair. He creates a suit that lets him walk, gives powers and fight baddies. But he still lives his normal life in a wheelchair with the secret identity. Wearing the suit vs being himself is part of the story conflict. It didn’t last enough to reach that resolution, but a large part of the show is him showing others he’s just as valuable a person as others who can walk
When that nun (i forgot her name) started clanking on the piano singing off-key bc that other nun died i knew it was time for me to gooo.
They thought naming a character Lilith was subtle lmaoo. I was waiting for her to go to hell since EP 1
As badly constructed as the plot was, it would have been at least 20% more bearable without the narration voiceover. That shit was excruciating.
ava gets resurrected, is hit by a car:
*freeze frame, record scratch*: yeah, that's me. I guess you're wondering how I got here
Due to the voice over I thought it was a novel adaptation because that seemed like the best explanation for having so much text, I was actually very surprised to learn it's based on a comic
Eran Fowler it didn’t add anything to the story and her inner commentary did nothing but make me cringe. They need to cut that shit out 😂
A bit dramatic
I also hate how Ava is like: "My body works now...I'm going to do drugs!
The trailer sold me an ensemble of kick ass nuns fighting in a fun version of Constantine. What I got was a boring solo act in The Last Holiday -.-
Yeah there where a single good choreographed fight scene (Beatrices hall fight) in the whole series but then they for some reason decided that Beatrice no longer could fight, every single of her fight scenes after that is embarrassingly bad.
I felt like the show ignored Ava's actual flaws but kept "calling out" flaws Ava hadn't really shown/had the chance to show? Like, they kept being like "Oh you just dislike the warrior nuns immediately but you haven't even gotten to know them well enough to know that they're actually sympathetic with a tragic backstory" when literally she had known the nuns for like 2 days and they were hostile to her the entire time, and considering her past it would be very understandable to be distrustful towards nuns, but like at what point was she supposed to have been getting to know them better?
But then they didn't really bother to give her character any ACTUAL depth or have her show any real growth, we're just supposed to believe she's grown as a person because she got called out for things she couldn't really control and showed regret about them, while not actually addressing any sort of real flaws she has and showing growth there. I think part of it may be that they tried to go in so many directions with her in such a short time, that none of the arcs were able to get any actual depth and it ended up feeling like way too much was happening but at the same time nothing was happening at all.
Like to me I didn't really feel like she acted particularly entitled (I didn't think she ever really was in any situations where she got the chance to show any entitlement), she just felt like a really boring and flat character to me, like she's supposed to be flawed but they didn't bother to actually WRITE her flaws so she just ends up a way worse character than an actually flawed character because it's just boring
As a white brazilian, the fact that the main actress looks white-passing is because she's actually white
that what I said, I laughed when she said white passing. 😂😂😂😂😂
lmaooo
Also she is half Portuguese, and Portuguese like Spanish are not Latinos. Most people in Portugal are white, getting a nice tan in the summer doesn't change that XD
Turns out Hispanic is not a race!
@@yltraviole brazilians aren't hispanic tho 😅
The biggest problem with Warrior Nun is that they took 7 episodes to actually start the Hero’s Journey. The hero isn’t supposed to turn down the call to adventure 7 times, it happens once and then the hero finally gets on board. It didn’t give the story enough to complete the hero’s journey properly.
It was bad. Problematic. Garbage And I loved it. And I want to rip it apart.
I binged it in one sitting.
I was really annoyed that they kept the random JC guy, when his friends Chanel and Randall were way cooler. I thought the framing of being quadriplegic was pretty awful. Feck that horrible nun. I'm glad she's dead. I thought their kinda out of nowhere moment between Ava and Beatrice was lazy, implying things they've literally never showed. Mary deserves a long vacation and a hug. Lilith being mad the way she was went on too long, so did Ava running around. Why was the guy even there? I loved the scene where Chanel was helping Ava pick out some clothes. Beatrice
Same opinion here. Beatrice and Chanel are amazing ❤️
There was no need for them to introduce us to the group of scammers. I really thought they were important characters for them to be getting that much screen time.
I wanted to see them fight demons. They never actually fought demons. The whole time the cool secret warrior Nun sect is just training in the background. And they definitely could have fixed some of the problems with Ava's conflicting feelings about being chosen in a far more interesting way, if she and the other nuns went out and it did their job.
And those background fight training that they do is really lame and embarrassing.
The protagonist was terrible, her backstory and her personality makes no real connection, its all so forced together, then she spends most of the 10 episodes flailing about. I found the other nuns far more interesting to watch in this show. She works so hard at being an athiest even with a life of religious influence, supernatural magic and items everywhere and she still refuses to accept anything and wants to act like a 13yr old teenager.
I had no idea what this was so I watched the trailer, all I thought while doing it was "they're trying so hard to bring back a Buffy like character and they're failing every time"
Edit. Deadass I wrote my comment before watching the video and hearing your comparisons to Buffy lol
"she was sent to the nunnery because she was gay" well, i grew up catholic and my dad told me once that in his town they would send gay people to the priesthood ... that's a thing XD. so that people aren't like "aren't they a little too old NOT to be married, what's up with that?" and they could say "it's cuz they're a priest or a nun, duh!" XD
“Is Brian McKnight playing...” This burn made my millennial heart glow. Subscribed!
I was watching this at work and when I heard that I laughed soooo hard and then everyone looked at me like I was crazy.
Spaniard here:
The Reconquista is not a very historical precise term. It's used by our far-right here, not for historians; at the very least it's more a process of unification under a faith; but it didn't ended with the Catholic Kings, 200 years after them it happen another episode of persecution against islamic people (they were called "Moriscos" then). And it didn't mean one political unity on the Peninsula either (Portugal and Navarra weren't Castilian or Aragonese rule, nor Castilla or Aragon were one and the same political entity).
The Inquisition was specially against jews, some of the actual anti semitic propaganda have origins there. But it was against heretics, reformist and not catholics on general too.
But 1492 was a busy year here: sending off the Jews, the take-over against Granada realm (that's the "Reconquista" climax), the Columbus expedition and the Rom entry on Spain.
Did that change recently? I'm Brazilian and I majored in History and Reconquista was just how the whole process was called, with no value judgments attached to it. Catholics were indeed conquering previously lost territory, after all.
@@juliafonseca3790 Yes, not sure about how we can talk about recently, but since the identity or unity of Iberian territories are not clear, there are not "lost". On many cases rulers and serfs were the same previous origin under christian or muslim rule. We can say that the term has connotations celebrated for conservatives and Far-right here, with a strong emphasis from the Franco rule, creating a mythical origin for itself. There are better explaining this on youtube, like t.co/0M7v7NvBcA?amp=1
@@MarioJPC Uhm, without the Reconquista these territories would not be Spanish but Arabic, so you could say they were lost.
@@timokohler6631 Lost ? The spanish people didn't exist back then as a united people. To whom were they lost ?
@@alicedeligny9240The premise was they were lost to Christendom, because at the time there was some level of Christian unity due to the Roman Catholic Church. There was a premise of "even if we hate each other politically, we can at least agree on Jesus/The Pope."
In the feudal past, the idea of the government as an infrastructure for common welfare was not a thing. "Government" was a set of hierarchies where individuals claimed rights over those below them. The lord had rights to part of your income and holdings, aka taxes, or had rights to your body in times of war. These "rights" were in constant contention and conversation, which is why there were many peasant revolts. You needed to pacify people to control them.
Much of this was negotiated via religion. "God made me born noble so I deserve to rule you." There wasn't this secular concept of earning your office, it was a god given right in a caste system. Priests reinforced or challenged this caste system depending on their personal history and leanings, but the Church as a whole was its great ally.
When you factor in dealing with people from other religions the system gets very messy very fast. Muslim rulers, for instance, would tax Christian and Jewish people under their rule harder than they'd tax Muslims. That may not sound that bad, but consider that a small amount of money/wealth could determine whether or not you get to eat, and that the fairness of taxation was the most common contention. This is also before live-in prisons, so a lot of failure to pay was punished by intimidation and assault. An injury could spell a slow and horrific death to a commoner.
So you have Christians living under Muslim rule who don't want to pay extra taxes and are sending letters to Christian Kings for help (a fantastic excuse for the Kings). Then on top of that you have the question of the Muslim and Jewish subjects under the Christian lords.
Usually oaths and political bindings were made via swearing to God+Jesus. Do you make them swear to Jesus? Why would they care about upholding an oath to a version of the Deity they don't believe in. Yes, in theory, they all follow the same God, but any excuse to wiggle out of a Lord's "rights" over you is one you take, so why not say "well I'm not a Christian so I'm not your subject." And unlike in Islam, Christianity didn't have a lot of clear cut "divine law" on how to deal with non-Christians, so it's tough to justify taxing non- subjects.
These tensions are what lead to a wider justification of Christian warmongering and later genocides by the Common public, and the continuing playbook of Fascists and Nationalists.
Their system only works if they can justify their (often patriarchal and racial) rulership over you, and if they feel troubled at justifying it, they want you gone. That's why so many nationalists spiral into ethnostate nonsense (something that never existed harmoniously); because dealing with a diverse populace will always rationally lead to a reevaluation of the State and its role, and they don't want you to think about that because they believe they have the right to control you regardless of how rightful that position actually is.
What makes it feel more strange is that Simon Barry has done much better - his CONTINUUM, which I've seen the first season of, is paced impeccably, especially the pilot and other episodes setting the story up and that was also ten episodes long!
his episodes were MILES above the rest of the season. i literally had to go look up who directed the last two because there was such a sudden spike in quality that it was almost jarring to have something of substance.
Continuum needs to be talked about more
The trailer made it seem like she would spend more time with the nuns. I stopped watching after episode 6 because she was STILL on her BS
The first 15 minutes are really good! But then, very little of the story connects with this initial set up. Every scene without the warrior nun crew made me want to gouge my eyes out. Ava and the Squatters? Boring. Ava exploring the city? Slightly less boring. Reluctant Hero trope? Still pretty boring. If the plot was just the warrior nuns and the priest, and everything excluded Ava, it would be a superior show.
Definitely true it had an almost Charlie's Angels / oceans 11 or assassin's Creed feel to it at first which could have been really interesting.
I really liked the later half of the season but oh boy how hard the first half was. It only really starts when she and Mary go on their adventure lmao. Ava didn't bother me so much because they actually kept calling her out on that so I was... okay I guess? But I agree with everything you said AND still want to see season 2 lmao. We exist.
I'm still intrigued to watch this trainwreck. Your hair and choker are utterly fabulous.
To this day, SMG as Buffy freaks me out because she's so talented? Trying to find where Buffy ends and she begins is awe-inspiring.
Also, the actress playing Ava looks EXACTLY like Ellen Page, and it threw me off for like three episodes.
Kept seeing Alicia Vikander
She reminded me of Alicia Vikander crossed with Bree Larson.
Discount Ellen Page for sure!
When I saw the trailer I thought it was the girl from I Am Mother, Clara Rugaard. She was so good in that movie, so I'm kinda disappointed it's not her! haha
bro Ava was the absolutely most annoying character ever
_ Aghhh omg 😂
Yes exactly
Video is great... Your take on the show is vastly different than my take on the show....I like the slow burn of accepting this new reality for Ava... She should be the least competing person in the room...And Ava seeing she is the least competing person in the room...thus feeling inadequate to wield the power that is bestowed upon her...Ava reaction to actively avoid joining this group of warrior nuns is warranted and I say worthy of being explored by the show... The show’s pace in the first season works!
So right, that whole season could have fit in 4 episode. Also your hair looks AMAZING! (and your texture is beautiful)
As a Brazilian, she is not "white-passing", she is white. Latino is not a race. I know americans have a hard time understanding that, but there it is.
Lol true
The way I lit up when you mentioned Buffy 😔💖 Just found your channel, gonna go binge now
First, thank you so much for your examination of the show! I'm currently an English major and it's so refreshing to hear all the aspects of a perfect analysis of a piece without all the academics-only, holier-than-thou phrasing. Secondly, I LOVE YOUR HAIR, I think it always looks gorgeous, but since you asked, I'm saying, it's particularly beautiful today.
Ok, but the outfits thoooo. Leather harness over black cloak with badass weapons. I think I watched the whole show just because of how cool the nuns looked
"Is Brain McKnight playing?? Because we're right back to one"
I'm at work on my break and I laughed out loud and now everybody is looking at me.
P.S. Like the new hair!! Awesome as always!!
This was one of the most entertaining rundowns I've ever seen! Your side comments absolutely made it for me. Thank you!
Instead of "Get in the robot, Shinji!" it's "Put on the habit, Ava!"
With the exception that Shinji was a compelling character in an interesting story and had good reason not to get in the robot...
Also, the halo is not (yet) Ava's mother in a weird way
Thank you for namedropping "A Pup Named Scooby Doo" that show taught me what a Red Herring was as a kid and I will forever love it.
You said it all so well. I actually watched the show with one of my patients who is quadriplegic and to say we were both offended would be an understatement. The whole magical cure to disability was absolutely so distasteful in my opinion and I was just baffled that it happened. The second thing, her being bratty because this is her second chance in life part was so ... frustrating for my patient to watch, she kept asking "would I be that horrible if I was able to walk" and "why is she so stupid" Ava's portrayal is really just so offensive on so many levels its absolutely beyond me that this show has so many supporters.
I loved everything about this, aspecially the fact you mentioned "well you were mythtaken" as an Emmy worthy moment!
Warrior Nun was so intriguing. I literally couldn't stop myself from watching it. I hated it so much, but I couldn't stop watching.
"is this outlander? .." ahahahaha! please never stop. i love your takes on whatever it happens to be :)
I feel like the entire season could’ve been condensed into 3 episodes. The story never made it past the second stop on the hero’s journey
I managed to get through about half the first episode before turning off that trash. After a normal bad guy gets his fingers cut off and half his face smashed off he still manages to kill with a cracking sound an uninjured nun who smashed off his face. Cause you know, you often get the better off perfectly healthy people when fatally injured.
The Protector turned on after, watch half the first season in a row. Fucking great show, strong characters, likable and beautiful local scenery. Also, the hero isnt perfect, just a flawed weak person who needs the support and teaching of others to become better. You know, like in reality. Check it
RIIIGGGGGHT!?!? the whole first scene I was like I don't know ANY of you but I'm supposed to be super emotional that the one chick is dying but then I started kinda liking the surgeon lady bc she wasn't taking anybody's shit she was doing her job then wham outta nowhere she's dead that really just killed the whole thing for me
I'm only two episodes in and I need the voice over to stop. She's supposed to be 19 but is thirsting like a 14 year old and ok I get it she was in the convent but you cannot do that and also have her fangirling over a Biotech mogul and instantly knowing how to work a mind controlled wheelchair. That scene took me out of the story entirely.
I had to pause the show and think about where on earth an isolated child trapped in a convent with only a little kid as companion would get specialized magazines and know about quantum gadgets.
And also she's definitely white. She's really tanned at best. It took me a second because lord knows it can be hard to tell sometimes but white Latinos is a thing because we're not a race so...
Your hair is so beautiful, I'm always amazed by how you can have it done in so many different ways and always be so fantastic!
Your hair's really cool! I also liked your little dance! Oh, and your great breakdown of the series, of course, that too
I was already thinking that I loved your hair before you said something about it near the end. I wasn't going to leave comment because I thought it would weird, but you brought it up, so, yes, I love it.
"Read a French novel" nearly killed me
i really liked your analysis of warrior nun! the buffy line was a good point, i feel like this is something that’s so common across tv and film, where a show will try to rip off a super popular classic without really understanding what made it good or why it’s stood the test of time. it’s a bit infuriating tbh, it’s not hard to look up some analyses (or do it yourself) of the media you want to take inspiration from. if you’re gonna rip something off then at least do it right lol.
btw, i love the hair! the lil short ‘fro is rly cute :)
OMG you're “Is Bryan McKnight playing? Cuz we are back at one." Got me 😂 - literally wiping tears from my eyes. Lol
Everyone should watch this show the way I watched this show: episode one and then the last three and a half episodes. Start halfway through episode 7. You will miss nothing that affects the plot
This is how i rewatched. Just halfway through 7th then onward.
For the record she was not fixed from being a quadriplegic, she was fixed from being dead
The ableism in this show was so frustrating. They act like being quadriplegic is the worst thing that could possibly happen to someone
It's not the worst? Gosh!
You can also tell that this was written by Americans without knowledge of how welfare works because there's no way a quadriplegic orphan would just be thrown in the street at 18 in Spain. She would have state subsidies and go to a nursing home either owned by a NGO, the state or the Church (since she's already under the care of the Church).
@boulderarms I was so confused about how she was able to walk immediately. Even if the halo magically strengthened her legs I think it would have needed to be more difficult for her to get used to walking again...
When Dark Angel did a long-term disability storyline that ends with magically being able to walk again better in 2000 than a Netflix show in 2020.
Because it is the worst thing to hapoen to someone.
YessssssS ALL OF THIS!!! You explained things perfectly👏👏 also yes we stan sister Beatrice honestly her and Shotgun Mary were the reason I got through the show
"Is this outlander, why do you need this commentary?!"
As a fan of Outlander... I agree. I am so glad the commentary gets dropped in later episodes. Like I think it came back for one, but for the most part they just stop.
Omg I loved the commentary...I looked forward to it.m
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS!!!!! seriously this video perfectly summed up all the issues i had with this show. I saw it was number 1 on netflix for a while and finally figured aight what the heck i bet it's gotta be pretty good, but oh boy was I wrong. I don't have a problem with writers making a stereotypical plot such as "the chosen one" trope. The problem I have is when they act like this is innovative and exciting, and needs to be way drawn out. It's totally possible to make a unique, fun show with an overused trope (as long as it's not harmful) but it's so frustrating when all you want is to see the story and instead you're just dragged along while a 19 year old monologues about making out with some random hot dude the way a 13 year old would fantasize on tumblr.
I fricking love this! Zero BS talk about the problematic issues with the show but still can talk about the good bits.
I did in fact trying to watch Warrior Nun then we binged Cursed and found that vastly superior. Maybe that IS why I'm a Nimue stan.
"JC and his crew" Jesus? Is this you?
I'm so glad RUclips recommended channel! I'm currently binging your work. Your hair is stellar. I'm convinced our hair changing textures very frequently.
Honestly I totally agree with u, like I watched the show and the only thing that interested me was the diversty in the trailers but the story wasn't there like I only got interested in the last episode and If the last episode didn't pick up like that I probably wouldn't even be interested in watching season 2
There should be a love button. Your energy gives me life!
"arm meat" this whole vid had me in stitches. subbed!
18:02 i love the hair! you look very cute
Can we talk about how it looks like they forgot to release the last episode and just went with it like it was right?
I just want to make a small comment on language here.
You said that the woman who plays Ava is "Latinx but white passing". I'm sure you meant well but this still perpetuates the idea that Latin is a race and erases the racial diversity in Latin America.
Does it, though? My understanding is that she can be both Latina AND white.
This right here, is why I dont like the "latina" label.
To me the statement is true and doesn't change her point at all nor does it diminish the racial diversity of Latin America. She said she was Latinx "BUT white-passing' meaning she is an ethnic minority but because she resembles a white woman she benefits from those privileges. I didn't see it as her saying that Latin is a race itself or that being white-passing/mixed white makes you an outlier. Her statement was that you have a very diverse cast and it's extremely obvious the creators were still too afraid to deviate from having a white/white-passing protagonist and are more comfortable with having black/brown/asian ppl playing solely supportive characters. But maybe I'm mishearing your argument. How does addressing the actress being white-passing perpetuate that Latin America isn't diverse (which is actually well known. There are Afro-Latinx, mixed ppl etc, forced miscegenation was even a thing during colonialism) I interpreted more like she wanted to acknowledge that the lead wasn't, in fact, white and a cultural minority but so happens to still resemble a white woman which is important to acknowledge in this 'diverse' cast
Being brazillian myself, I'm kinda fascinated, because I always tought that, but never found enyone else in the internet complaining about this, but it seems that this video gathered all the people who are also bothered by that, this is the third comment I read about this
race is a made up concept in general
I loved it! Most people can't handle slow paced shows but die for Marvel movies with explosions/blurry fight scenes. However I do think a lot of people have to be drawn in my the aesthetic first tbh, so there's that.
Your videos are very refreshing. I'm on a binge of your content and you seem to watch everything I love and I'm here for it sis.
In the same way that Spiderman movies always need to do the Uncle Ben arc, I see a lot of movies and shows packing in a ton of extra unnecessary detail because either the original story was too brief (Umbrella Academy) or the actual character arc is too anti-hero (Altered Carbon). So the show has to build it's own dramatic context, and you basically get a prequel.
I discovered your channel last week, and I found your discussions wonderful. You are a breath of fresh air. 😊👍🏾👏🏾
This 18 minute video held my attention longer than warrior nun actually did.
This was a really satisfying take-down. Thank you.
I got so bored halfway through the warrior nun. I watched your video about it all the way to the end without being bored at all. Thank you :-)
would you be willing to give the show's 2nd season a chance? it may have already been cancelled but it was still imo a big upgrade from s1. i agree the 1st season's pacing was way too slow and it did drag on, but s2 fixed that and removed almost all of ava's monologues. theres also divided screentimes now, so lilith's backstory is explored (although yes she does turn into a villain, its implied to be part of her journey considering the actress seemed to imply that she'll always be part of the ocs still and would have been if only there was a season 3) and the focus isnt always on ava but also on the diverse cast of characters. its sad that shotgun mary is gone (due to some personal issues from the actress at home if im not mistaken) though. ava grows more mature and imo better as a person here i think, and has really decided to fill in her "chosen one" role properly. the main couple is also sapphic, one that is written and paced quite well imo. and although its not perfect still, and there are still some pacing issues esp since it got cut down to 2 episodes less, i think its still worth a shot at least? i mean it did get 100% on rotten tomatoes so thats something
Living for this content. Also the HAIR! You look amazing!
I was a bit apprehensive about giving the series a try, but eventually did because an acquaintance recommended it and I found out David Hayter was involved.
I... liked it? Not gonna praise it as brilliant or anything, but I took a liking to most of the core characters, and the series did leave me wondering what the truths behind some of the "mysteries" really are.
I think overall it was likeable. The writing and direction it was taking were questionable. Hope S2 fixes some of the core issues.
Are either of them as good as The Witcher, though? The Witcher is silly but I enjoyed it a lot more than Warrior Nun!
Witcher is the best Netflix fantasy rn
@@Princess_Weekes *cries in The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance*
...toss a coin?
You’re so entertaining to watch. ❤️ I haven’t seen this show, but my housemate was saying she disliked the main character, so I‘ll send this video to her!
Portuguese people are white. There are black people and poc who speak Portuguese, but people from Portugal are white. We're just a slightly darker white. We tan well. Thats about it. We colonized half the world. We aren't marginalized.
Kell also I don’t think Portuguese/Brazilians fall into the Hispanic/Latino category either
I'm aware She's portuguese and Brazilian, I don't know what her Brazilian parent's ID is, but make an effort not to assume because race/ethnicity is complicated in SA. Hence why I just said white/white passing
@@Princess_Weekes Oh yeah of course. I know Brazil has a really complicated history and I'm not assuming that part of her ethnicity. I just get a lot of people saying that I'm a poc because I'm Portuguese, and we aren't. So she's at least half white.
@@Kellfiree erm most portuguese people are white...we still have a lot of non-white Portuguese, and a lot of color diversity on what we consider "white" in Portugal/Europe :)
@@tiagomegas Yeah of course. I'm talking about Portuguese decent. I'm from the islands. Its majority white.
I couldn't even finish the first episode, which bums me out because I was looking forward to all the BAMF ladies. And yes I LOVE your hair! So cute! It's heart shaped like your choker, which is delightful ❤
I actually loved Ava. I actually liked the fact that she didn’t fall in to her hero role quickly. Her growth is completely stunted by her upbringing and her wanting to do typical things that she missed makes so much sense to me. It bucked a common savior narrative convention.
And I kinda agree with that at first but it went on for far to long like it got to a point where she was literally seeing people get hurt by these monsters and heard people being killed and still didn't want to help it started to come of as her being selfish
I remember being really confused when the last episode ended, I thought I had messed something up since it didn't play the next one. They basically turned a prequel into a filler heavy "season."
I was disappointed by how heavily the priest's betrayal was foreshadowed because it meant that I didn't get to enjoy even a single twist.
I was considering watching this the other night. Thank you for saving my time. That comparison to a 26 episode CW show was pretty much all I needed to know.
For some reason I thought this video’s gonna be about how not to write chosen one protagonists and not about warrior nun in general
Oh I totally agree with everything you said in this video. Ava was a terrible main character who made terrible choices for NO reason. And the worst thing is that Ava was basically an OC made for the show to replace the main character, Areala, from the comics. Why not keep the established comic book character for the show? Imagine doing a Wonder Woman tv show adaptation but then Diana dies in the first 5 minutes of the 1st episode and an OC gets her powers and becomes the lead. It makes no sense! Ugh. Sigh.
At least they gave us Shotgun Mary and Queen Beatrice.
I'm not gonna lie, I loved this show... all except for the "hero". Like, the back at the ranch badass nunning stuff was so great to me, but every time we cut back to Ava I audibly groaned. Everything, I mean EVERYTHING would have been better with a better written lead.
I find it so interesting that you like Cursed more than Warrior Nun, because I couldn't even get past the first episode of Cursed. The characters had all felt super generic and the world had no depth and that scene where she fights wolves happened and I was so bored - which is not great when I am supposed to care about main character's people being slaughtered.
Warrior Nun pulled me in though when Mary cradled the previous Warrior Nun (I don't remember her name) as she willing sacrificed herself for the protection of the Halo. I didn't really like Ava until the plot actually started moving, but damn did I love every moment with the Nuns - I loved Beatrice's cool confidence (and she is totally my favorite character) and Lilith's intense drive and Mary's grief driving her forward even as she tried her best to be kind.
Same! I can't exactly expect Melina to like this show though. A few minutes in she had to say Ava being healed by the Halo is problematic.
THANK YOU OMG YOU'RE TELLIN ME ALL THE SHIT I WAS THINKING BEFORE THIS FEELS RLLY AFFIRMING ❤️💕❤️💕🥺🥺
So happy to have found your point of view on stories telling. You are saving me tiiiiiiiiime
I love watching videos of you ripping apart mediocre TV shows that I have never heard of and will never watch, lmao. It's so immensely satisfying. 10/10!
HA this was all very well said and so much fun to watch. I genuinely enjoyed the second half of the first season of WN a lot, especially episode 6 which I honestly adored. Frankly, just the decision to get rid of the voiceover after the first few eps improved the quality ~dramatically~... but it's good to take a step back every once and a while and remember how much of the show is kind of a trashfire
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"Time is demon blood" hahahaha.
To answer the most important question, I love your hair like this. You look adorable AND ready for action!
I really enjoyed it. I feel like it's some stupid fun that isn't all about dudes and that's cool.