A Multiverse DEFIANT Class and CREW: The Anaximander

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  • Lower Decks Season 5 spoilers ahead! The Anaximander is a Section 31 spy ship, Defiant Class, that has the mission profile of exploring and sealing multiverse rifts into other dimensions and has a crew of mostly individuals from these realities. Curzon Dax, Garak, EMH Bashir, T'pol, Harry Kim, Harry Kim and Harry Kim make up the crews alongside Captain William Boimler. Let's take a look at their origins and the vessel itself.
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  • @matthewphoenix6372
    @matthewphoenix6372 Месяц назад +173

    Point of nerd order! Julian was selected as a candidate to model the Long Term Medical Hologram (LMH) Not the EMH Mk2

    • @bigfootwalker5399
      @bigfootwalker5399 Месяц назад +12

      Very Correct

    • @DAFLIDMAN
      @DAFLIDMAN Месяц назад +30

      You are technically correct, the best kind of correct.

    • @nobodyimportant5417
      @nobodyimportant5417 Месяц назад +17

      Yes. Iirc, it was Andy Dick that modeled the EMH mark II.

    • @kensmith2285
      @kensmith2285 Месяц назад +9

      While I do agree with what you said, we have to remember that this version of Julian is from a different reality, not the prime one. For all we know from his reality, he’s the one that could’ve been selected for the mark two

    • @cyriljackal
      @cyriljackal Месяц назад +5

      Mk. 2 was Andy Dick

  • @Marconius6
    @Marconius6 Месяц назад +66

    I loved the fact the dimension-hopping ship had a Prime Directive against species that don't also have dimension-hopping technology.

    • @Sephiroth144
      @Sephiroth144 Месяц назад +3

      Though given they seem to be in-verse for a few days, maybe some weeks at most- how would they make that distinction? Like, how often would Their Universe have Reality Hoppers blinking in or out, within scanning range? (Heck, they don't seem to be near Earth with all these DimHops- so puts the whole "observing ourselves" thing in question)

    • @CoralCopperHead
      @CoralCopperHead Месяц назад +2

      @@Sephiroth144 For all we know, Dimhopping could theoretically spit you out somewhere other than where you jumped from. If the visualization of the different realities as spheres on the viewscreen is literal and some dimensions are literally bigger or smaller, I could see it being the case.

    • @bosstowndynamics5488
      @bosstowndynamics5488 24 дня назад +1

      ​@@CoralCopperHeadIn one of the preceding episodes the Cerritos encounters an Intrepid class from a much smaller reality so there's definitely a scale component

  • @kamenwaticlients
    @kamenwaticlients Месяц назад +62

    This episode was everything for me. I really like that Defiant variant.

    • @3Rayfire
      @3Rayfire Месяц назад +5

      Agreed. Some of my favorite characters came back.

    • @kamenwaticlients
      @kamenwaticlients Месяц назад +3

      @3Rayfire I like that them coming back felt natural and made sense. They did a good job I immediately recognized T'Pol and Kerzon before they said it. I was surprised I was right. I started cheering haha

  • @KingOfMadCows
    @KingOfMadCows Месяц назад +56

    This is the Section 31 movie I want.

  • @thanqualthehighseer
    @thanqualthehighseer Месяц назад +70

    Makes sense Section 31 would travel to other realities. imagine going to a timeline where the Excelsior transwarp project was successful and improved for another 100 years, Starfleet created a stable genesis device, allied with the Romulans and has developed advanced phasing cloaks or recovered any one of a hundred lost technologies or alien archives.

    • @barrybend7189
      @barrybend7189 Месяц назад +5

      I also love how mundane William got with his assignments. Ceritos despite being a ship not meant to be a hero gets interesting things to do.

    • @CoralCopperHead
      @CoralCopperHead Месяц назад

      Technically the Genesis device does exactly what it's supposed to.

    • @thanqualthehighseer
      @thanqualthehighseer Месяц назад +1

      @@CoralCopperHead
      The original in Wrath of Khan was dangerously unstable and the planet disintegrated so no unless you wanted it as a weapon.
      It wasn't made clear if the mk II actually fixed the problem in Picard or just made minor improvements.

    • @CoralCopperHead
      @CoralCopperHead Месяц назад

      @@thanqualthehighseer I legitimately forgot the Genesis Planet went nova, my bad.

    • @deadturret4049
      @deadturret4049 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@thanqualthehighseer pretty sure it was unstable because the genesis planet was formed from a nebula instead of an existing planet.

  • @badman3000
    @badman3000 Месяц назад +59

    I think this version of Mariner change completely after her friends Sito die instead of having a devil may care attitude she's decided to play it safe not wanting to end up like her friend.

    • @matthewal9545
      @matthewal9545 Месяц назад +17

      probably a reference to picards episode too!

    • @nunnayorz5836
      @nunnayorz5836 Месяц назад +19

      Or maybe this Mariner wasn't stationed on DS9 during the Dominion war and didn't develop PTSD.

    • @thejestor9378
      @thejestor9378 Месяц назад +9

      @@nunnayorz5836keep forgetting that happened to her.

    • @badman3000
      @badman3000 Месяц назад +6

      @@nunnayorz5836 probably both.

    • @90lancaster
      @90lancaster Месяц назад +1

      @@nunnayorz5836 Who thought it was a good idea to put a bunch of science nerds in combat situations again - that is what MAKOs were for after all.

  • @JagoHazzard
    @JagoHazzard Месяц назад +1

    This episode was total fan service, but I loved it. It's a bit of a cheap trick to skewer multiverse tropes while indulging in them, but on the other hand, Garak x Bashir!

    • @bosstowndynamics5488
      @bosstowndynamics5488 24 дня назад

      Garak x Bashir is particularly good because Andrew Robinson had said that he deliberately played Garak as flirting with Bashir but the producers refused to depict them as openly gay

  • @stevieturner9338
    @stevieturner9338 Месяц назад +37

    Thank you a version of Rick

  • @AzraelThanatos
    @AzraelThanatos Месяц назад +10

    For the Julian hologram, it's possible that he's also from the Prime timeline there. I could, easily, see Section 31 acquiring the partially complete prototype from Zimmerman for their ship or ships

  • @jacara1981
    @jacara1981 Месяц назад +7

    I love the hat tip to Tripp still being alive.

  • @Etrune
    @Etrune Месяц назад +25

    I really like parallel universe stories and I really liked what the episode said about them.
    Nowadays, a lot of media use parallel universes in a simplistic way, which can be boring.
    But the idea itself can be an excellent way of imagining possibilities and thus helping to reflect on our world.

    • @GSBarlev
      @GSBarlev Месяц назад +5

      Same. It's really easy to do multiverse stories badly (the Arrowverse, the Marvel live-action films, _Picard_ S02...), but my favorite works of science fiction are _EEAAO,_ _Steins;Gate_ and _The OA,_ which really exemplify what Sloane says about the power of multiverse stories.

    • @OptimusWombat
      @OptimusWombat Месяц назад +2

      Just like overusing time travel as a plot device, parallel universes can also turn into a crutch for poor writing.

    • @CoralCopperHead
      @CoralCopperHead Месяц назад

      @@OptimusWombat The term 'crutch' implies that it helps prop up the writing. It's not a crutch for poor writing, it's a symptom of it.

    • @OptimusWombat
      @OptimusWombat Месяц назад

      @@CoralCopperHead no, because when they're done well, time travel and parallel universe stories are excellent.

  • @janwitkowsky8787
    @janwitkowsky8787 Месяц назад +12

    Point of nerd order! Dr. Garak isn't claustrophobic, so we can surmise, that his father wasn't as cruel as the prime-universe. And from that speculate that Cardassia was philosophically more moderate, than Prime Cardassia.

    • @bosstowndynamics5488
      @bosstowndynamics5488 24 дня назад

      Him being in Starfleet also doesn't imply that Cardassia was friendly with the Federation since prime Garak was already working with them - it was only really his personal preferences in that realm that led to him keeping the Federation at arm's distance and limiting the degree of his involvement with them

  • @angbald
    @angbald Месяц назад +5

    Dude. You're hands down my favorite Trek channel.

  • @DAFLIDMAN
    @DAFLIDMAN Месяц назад +27

    When Lilley said she "doesn't know what a warp drive is" it got me thinking, how did the Vulcans of her reality get to Earth?

    • @MichaelDeHaven
      @MichaelDeHaven Месяц назад +5

      Good question. Imagine if they were stuck with sub light speed transport. But likely they just use another form of FTL.

    • @Marconius6
      @Marconius6 Месяц назад +5

      Yeah this bothered me too. Although their reality shift drive can clearly move through space as well, so maybe they just use that?

    • @FoxMagi
      @FoxMagi Месяц назад +2

      Vulcans have Warp Drive. They came to Earth when Cochran activated the Phoenix's warp drive.

    • @bipolarminddroppings
      @bipolarminddroppings Месяц назад +12

      @@FoxMagi clearly not in the universe in question, since they've never heard of warp.

    • @brll5733
      @brll5733 Месяц назад +1

      Maybe their home universes physics does not allow for Warp drive, but osme other form of FTL?

  • @Martyn2021
    @Martyn2021 Месяц назад +9

    There is a fan audio called the section section 31 files group of people called Dark projects. (Starting in 2005 and ran until 2010, 38 episodes in total) I have feeling that the writing staff of Lower Decks has/was fan of it as this episode has some very interesting similarities and the fan audio is well worth checking out

  • @MeNoOther
    @MeNoOther Месяц назад +9

    Yay! Someone who knew about dimensions that were slower than ours.
    The Sliders episode where the characters appear to travel back in time is called "As Time Goes By"; in this episode, the team encounters a world where time flows backwards, meaning effects happen before causes, creating a very strange and confusing reality for them to navigate.
    Key points about "As Time Goes By":
    Time reversal concept:
    The primary plot revolves around the Sliders landing on a world where time runs in reverse, causing events to unfold backwards.
    Causality confusion:
    This leads to situations where the characters witness things happening before they actually occur, creating a paradoxical and challenging scenario.
    Episode details:
    The episode features the team trying to understand the reversed timeline and find a way to get back to their own reality
    As Time Goes By”
    Episode no. Season 2 Episode 6
    The Slider series is where, Jerry O'Connell was stationed before he was the Commander Jack Ransom is the first officer of the USS Cerritos in Star Trek: Lower Decks:

    • @dupersuper1938
      @dupersuper1938 Месяц назад +1

      I remember that episode of Red Dwarf...also of Star Trek: TAS...

  • @Illsteelotube
    @Illsteelotube Месяц назад +13

    This episode pays off years of watching and reading trek.. I’d smiled so hard whole episode.. this show is a jewel ❤

  • @3Rayfire
    @3Rayfire Месяц назад +9

    Also, thank you for educating me as to who Anaximandros was.

  • @QuantumVLOG
    @QuantumVLOG Месяц назад +6

    I absolutely LOVE the design for the Beagle and I need a model of it right now. The XCV-330 is my favourite Enterprise just for how semi realistic it looks and feels for early spaceflight, I was really happy to see another ringship

  • @TheMadTube
    @TheMadTube Месяц назад +4

    Everything in this episode was a win. I love the Anaximander and any Defiant variant.

  • @Soul-cry1
    @Soul-cry1 Месяц назад +12

    They called her Dax in the alternate universe which suggests she has the Dax symbiont as well. And Julian was not to be emh-2 he was to be an LMH long term medical hologram.

  • @joekyle6594
    @joekyle6594 Месяц назад +4

    I will say I really like the storytelling potential for Cochrane developing multiversal travel instead of FTL travel. An alternate "United Federation of Planets" (probably wouldn't be called that, but you get the idea) comprised of hundreds of alternate Earths would make for a really fascinating faction IMO.

  • @dedwoodpete
    @dedwoodpete Месяц назад +9

    The ship also had the Section 31 vanity shield from STO

  • @macklee6837
    @macklee6837 Месяц назад +7

    Thank you, Terran Ric!

  • @samuelmeasa9283
    @samuelmeasa9283 Месяц назад +6

    I just went with temporal hi-jinx for the reason why so many crew members where from different times. Actually its a excuse I considered using for a STO Machinima.

  • @kevinrussell3501
    @kevinrussell3501 Месяц назад +2

    Great episode and excited about the finale. Defiant class still looks so bad ass. I'm really going to miss this show

  • @maybetoby
    @maybetoby Месяц назад +11

    Ok, I'm gonna go catch up on Lower Decks before i watch this lol

  • @colinantink9094
    @colinantink9094 Месяц назад +5

    I really wish the Beagle was an NX class variant in this episode 😢

  • @lexxstrum
    @lexxstrum Месяц назад +5

    Fun idea I had about Section 31 and the obvious problem with them using Starfleet vessels for their missions: they invent an alien species! You set up shop on some world. Maybe it's a world where it's people went extinct, maybe there aren't any aliens there at all. If they did exist, you use their ships, modified with cutting edge UFP tech. Otherwise, you have to create a whole new type of ship from a mysterious, uncontacted alien species.
    The benefit of this is you can operate where the UFP can't, and you can make friends where a SF captain would get into trouble.

  • @robertfarr9186
    @robertfarr9186 Месяц назад +4

    Admit the S31 paint job on the defiant class ship is nice

  • @arpkahn670
    @arpkahn670 Месяц назад +1

    On Holo Bashir, if the LMH program had started a few year earlier in his reality then it seems entirely possible that the EMH mk 1 might have still existed in his reality, but that his Voyager might've either been outfitted with only an LMH or with both. That certainly seems a lot more plausible than any version of Zimmerman being humble enough to model the EMH mk 1 off anyone besides himself.

  • @Marcus51090
    @Marcus51090 Месяц назад +1

    There is a scene where boimler said he “fkn hates the multiverse” you see the MSD, it finally shows about 8 decks

  • @90lancaster
    @90lancaster Месяц назад +1

    In some realities The USS Defiant might have either only got to the prototype phase or never have been made at all.
    Since Sisko made it get made and O'Brien fixed it's design problem that would otherwise shake it to pieces.
    So the pennant is a bad idea perhaps if they want it to be an "unknown vessel" - which aside from the Starfleet logo it might do reasonably well as it is made of different materials to many other ships and it even has functional aspects moved around and changed (like blue Bussards for example).
    Nice to see it land too.

  • @tristanmendoza4628
    @tristanmendoza4628 Месяц назад +1

    The XCV-330 is covered more in pre TMP books like SpaceFlight Chronology. That's where I recall seeing it in the early 80s. My copy is in a box somewhere around here. That book also has quite a different take on who Zephran Cochrane was and his history.

  • @OptimusWombat
    @OptimusWombat Месяц назад +2

    10:10 regardless of the ship's design lineage, the Starfleet delta emblazoned on the hull should be a dead giveaway.

    • @bosstowndynamics5488
      @bosstowndynamics5488 24 дня назад

      To be fair, when S31 has been depicted from the outside they usually try to pass themselves off as a much more benign part of Starfleet rather than a completely unrelated group

  • @radionoakmont7756
    @radionoakmont7756 Месяц назад +3

    or the garak from the one univeres where Worf kept jumping realities there was one where Bajor attacked and enslaved Cardassia and was very warlike, this garak could be from there joined starfleet to better himself as a doctor and who knows a natural tailor who was a freedom fighter, too cool space SLIDERS, that would be a great series to touch on i have a theory of the escape pod kim what if that voyager escaped the pitcher plant but kim set up a reaction that literally vaporized and he got out but with mental instability cause of the psychic connection it has with the crew and ship cause of the neural interface, him feeling the crew was compromised did the unthinkable and went psycho and not wanting to return to that reality did a second incident, but also attracting attention to many unwanted guest

  • @connerthecat4758
    @connerthecat4758 Месяц назад +1

    What a banger of an episode this one was.

  • @chris2746
    @chris2746 Месяц назад +2

    I love how it has RGB Gamer™ shields

  • @UGNAvalon
    @UGNAvalon Месяц назад +4

    Dang, that Cochrane wasn’t satisfied with just designing a warp drive, he had to build a reality-hopping drive?? I know you’re supposed to dream big, but isn’t a multi-century technological hop a bit _Too_ ambitious? 🤯

    • @Sephiroth144
      @Sephiroth144 Месяц назад

      I mean, HE did want to go the warp route, but Lily convinced him otherwise
      My main question is "okay, so they've been hopping realities; aren't they supposed to head back at some point", ya know, to share, or at least so the crew can see their friends/family/make sure Earth wasn't taken over by the Romulans?

  • @N0Nsense___
    @N0Nsense___ Месяц назад +8

    I loved this episode, a lot of ds9 callbacks, returning cast, openly gay couple, confirming that garak was really into julian in that first meeting.

    • @dupersuper1938
      @dupersuper1938 Месяц назад

      I certainly buy that Garak was into Bashir, but technically this doesn't prove anything. Alternate reality and all.

  • @GeoStreber
    @GeoStreber Месяц назад +11

    7:30 ;My bet is that that Kim was kicked out of the voyager crew for being unstable.

    • @OptimusWombat
      @OptimusWombat Месяц назад

      Ironic that the unstable Kim is also the only one that ever got promoted, lol.

    • @dupersuper1938
      @dupersuper1938 Месяц назад +2

      @@OptimusWombat The more unstable Starfleet officers seem more likely to seek out promotion: thus Kirk and Picard staying captains as long as they can, Spock not seeking command, the senior staff of the hero ships staying put for so long...all while crazy admiral after corrupt admiral after incompetent commodore keep making their lives difficult. Even Admiral Shelby eventually screwed up and left Starfleet vulnerable to the Borg. The good eggs seem to avoid promotion to stay out in the field exploring and helping folks. Mariner may be the exception that proves the rule, stabilitywise...

    • @OptimusWombat
      @OptimusWombat Месяц назад +1

      ​@@dupersuper1938counter-argument: as seen in TNG Tapestry, Picard would have remained a career Blue Shirt Lieutenant if he'd played it safe and by the book. It was reckless, perhaps even slightly unstable Picard that picked a fight with a bunch of Nausicaans.

    • @OptimusWombat
      @OptimusWombat Месяц назад

      ​@@dupersuper1938the key seems to be to have that bit of unstableness within you, and to keep it under control rather than let it take control of you.

    • @dupersuper1938
      @dupersuper1938 Месяц назад +1

      @@OptimusWombat Counter-counter argument: Tendi and Rutherford are delightful. Tapestry's a great episode, but it kinda' does career science officers dirty.

  • @SKy_the_Thunder
    @SKy_the_Thunder Месяц назад +1

    It's honestly not as ridiculous of a premise as it sounds at first. Certainly less out there than like half of TOS, and a good bit of TNG. Even Voyager and DS9 had encounters with other realities, and Enterprise went through that whole Temporal Cold War arc, which requires a whole tangle of interwoven timelines...

  • @poetscotty
    @poetscotty Месяц назад +1

    I'm surprised no one did a video compared Voyager A (Lamarr Class) and Voyager B (Pathfinder class) yet.

  • @anarchyantz1564
    @anarchyantz1564 Месяц назад

    I actually like the black and metal paint job on it, makes it more unique to the standard meh ones the federation usually has.

  • @rhodrage
    @rhodrage Месяц назад

    The Anaximander does have a Cloak, we saw it when Boimer was recruited into S31.

  • @Brando501st
    @Brando501st Месяц назад

    Loved this episode ❤ I'm still holding out that these characters transition to a new show if lower Decks finishes 🥺

  • @antr7493
    @antr7493 Месяц назад +2

    i found lower decks extremely annoying when i started watching it. It grows on you.
    Shame it got cancelled. At least we got to see William Boimler again.

  • @Dominion69420
    @Dominion69420 Месяц назад

    9:50 in S3E8 when William is drafted into section 31, we see what is presumably the Anaximander decloaking, so it does seemingly have one

  • @RyogaHabiki
    @RyogaHabiki Месяц назад +1

    It's possible that this version of Garak joined Starfleet upon being exiled.

  • @Sealhunt
    @Sealhunt Месяц назад

    Imagine the Shenanigans the Borg could have gotten up to with a dimension-jump drive. Makes you wonder.

  • @grahamturner1290
    @grahamturner1290 Месяц назад +1

    🖖

  • @pandalord7813
    @pandalord7813 Месяц назад +3

    "A string of Harry Kim(s)" More like: i lost count after 20

  • @o.k.productions5202
    @o.k.productions5202 Месяц назад

    A lack of a registery could be to reduce possible suspicions if it were to appear in a reality where a defiant classAnaximander already exists but isn’t a reality traveller.

  • @dupersuper1938
    @dupersuper1938 Месяц назад

    As far as I'm concerned, Trip wasn't killed in 2261 in the prime universe either: I very much go with the books here. Just a Section 31 cover up to hide his involvement in the Romulan War and the Romulans origins. Poor Riker: he seems to really like that program by the time he's captaining the Titan. He must've been crushed when Jake and Nog learned the truth.
    Some of the other timelines must indeed be at different years relative to the prime timeline. I can maybe buy Curzon being alive in the 2380s, but Lillie???

  • @williamgeorge2580
    @williamgeorge2580 Месяц назад

    Maybe that stroke Mitch had was actually his conscience making a return before the end.

  • @nicktechnubyte1184
    @nicktechnubyte1184 Месяц назад +6

    I'll admit, I kinda feel, I don't know how else to say this, "right in the middle" about this episode!

    • @n1nj4l1nk
      @n1nj4l1nk Месяц назад +2

      Ambivalent maybe.

  • @HankScorpio64
    @HankScorpio64 Месяц назад +1

    The many Harry Kim's

  • @Keryaken133
    @Keryaken133 Месяц назад

    Nerd moment: i noticed that the nacelle colors were blue and additional impulse engines were mounted at the end of the incorporated nacelle

  • @Jasonbelkin
    @Jasonbelkin Месяц назад

    Likely Anaximander does have cloak device one we saw in Crisis Point 2: Paradoxus" Did seem to have had cloak devices it seem decloak when the starship show up screen

  • @feralprocessor9853
    @feralprocessor9853 Месяц назад

    SPACE!!!

  • @safebox36
    @safebox36 Месяц назад

    Wait, what?
    The last episode out on Amazon UK for me is Upper Decks.
    Damn, I'll come back to this in a week's time😅.

  • @darinbauer8122
    @darinbauer8122 Месяц назад

    Temporal personnel recovery. They finally admitted they do that. Wow.

  • @kineuhansen8629
    @kineuhansen8629 Месяц назад

    the fact that william boimler made captain before his brother is so strange

  • @wyliecoyote
    @wyliecoyote Месяц назад

    I looked at the dark Defiant and assumed it was a homage to the USS monitor from The Return in the Shatnerverse book series

  • @rahxephonmanga9802
    @rahxephonmanga9802 Месяц назад +3

    Bashir was a candidate for the LMH (Long term medical hologram) in the prime reality, NOT EMH.

    • @MeNoOther
      @MeNoOther Месяц назад +1

      But in his reality, maybe Bashir was the EMH. Is what he is saying

    • @CertifiablyIngame
      @CertifiablyIngame  Месяц назад +2

      You are correct! I forgot that the EMH.2 is technically not the LMH and assumed the common idea that the LMH project was scraped in favour of the M2.

    • @MeNoOther
      @MeNoOther Месяц назад

      So there was the EMH, EMH 2, LMH, M2
      Will you do a show on the many medical holograms?
      Specifically since the Doctor is in Starfleet Academy

  • @TheKaffinated
    @TheKaffinated Месяц назад +1

    Hi Rick!

  • @d20avatar
    @d20avatar Месяц назад

    Long time viewer. Love the channel. You have made videos for other IP besides star trek. Would you consider some episodes dedicated to final fantasy?

  • @radionoakmont7756
    @radionoakmont7756 Месяц назад

    the alt realities and fissures is one reason why the Tholians with their hive mind keeps tabs on all fissures including temporal they are in search of whoever is creating them to begin with the multiple borg coalition is taking advantage of them someone or something is creating them either for sport or just to be a troll but also the young created universe in ds9 that was sent through the wormhole to be safe and grow, and in manyr realities some could represent a far furure or past time is never really relative even SLIDERS this was touched on when Quinn met a 12 year old version of himself at the moment he believed it was an alt 96 but in real reality it was 1984,

  • @Jasmin-lg3gf
    @Jasmin-lg3gf Месяц назад

    My guess is that the many Kims are a reference to the VOY Kim coming from a parallel timeline.

  • @mrfleagal
    @mrfleagal Месяц назад +5

    wish i could watch season 5, but because paramount apparently dislikes norway, there are no legal ways of watching the show outside of buying it on bluray

    • @nunnayorz5836
      @nunnayorz5836 Месяц назад +1

      VPN and change your country to one that you can view it. Or piracy is always an option. It's only illegal on the level of jaywalking.

    • @berndbernd3464
      @berndbernd3464 Месяц назад +1

      Why the hell would you not pirate it?

    • @mrfleagal
      @mrfleagal Месяц назад

      @@berndbernd3464 because i dont trust pirate sites to not give me a virus

    • @nunnayorz5836
      @nunnayorz5836 Месяц назад

      ​@@mrfleagalVPN

    • @dupersuper1938
      @dupersuper1938 Месяц назад

      @@berndbernd3464 If you pirate episodes of Star Trek, are you...a space pirate?

  • @Fayanora
    @Fayanora Месяц назад +2

    In my novels, which have a multiverse, universes that are behind the times like T'pol's are called "trailing universes," and ones that are ahead of time are called "timeskip universes."

  • @sanyahikari7072
    @sanyahikari7072 Месяц назад +1

    To be honest, I thought Picard became a Trill...

  • @nunnayorz5836
    @nunnayorz5836 Месяц назад

    In order to maintain cosmic balance Kims must remain as ensigns.

    • @dupersuper1938
      @dupersuper1938 Месяц назад

      What would that mean for Star Trek Online???

  • @Sephiroth144
    @Sephiroth144 Месяц назад

    Wait, hang on- how did the Prime Universe have multiple incursions/fissures if the Beagle was jumping universes (not just bouncing around the Prime)?

  • @StarMandoForge
    @StarMandoForge Месяц назад +1

    The Marvel version of the Guardians of the Multiverse!

    • @dupersuper1938
      @dupersuper1938 Месяц назад

      Isn't the Marvel version of the Guardians of the Multiverse...the Guardians of the Multiverse?

    • @StarMandoForge
      @StarMandoForge Месяц назад

      @ Yes

  • @radionoakmont7756
    @radionoakmont7756 Месяц назад

    there might be a reality where it was Robert Picard who went to Starfleet instead of Jean luc, and Jean went on to do something he always desired behome enjoying the vineyard and artist life with a big family while Robert might have an affair or marriage to Tasha Yar and the switch up with Troi she was caught by the Romulans and her son instead of Sela was a commander and cause of different events became a Pirate with the Emerald Chain, so many universes to explore and catalog it would be fun for meand who knows in the robiverse ill call it the borg like Jiraty variant helped ships by copying data as the only price for repairing and healing crew members ships how that borg became aa repository Library medics of the known universe there and trying to stave off a huge pitcher plant invasion.

  • @daveh7720
    @daveh7720 Месяц назад +1

    Did the Lower Decks ship still have the Starfleet arrowhead? The model here does, but it looks like it was built in Star Trek Online.

    • @3Rayfire
      @3Rayfire Месяц назад +1

      Certified Ingame uses a LOT of visuals for ships from STO I think because Cryptic partners with them and Paramount doesn't care about them using game footage vs extensive episode footage. Yes, the in episode Anaximander did have the Starfleet Delta visible forward of the Bridge.

    • @CertifiablyIngame
      @CertifiablyIngame  Месяц назад +3

      Close! I am not partnered with STO, although I have spoken to some of the devs and art team before as part of research. However I do use extensive footage from STO as it is not claimed by CBS, Paramount and such!

    • @daveh7720
      @daveh7720 Месяц назад +1

      @@CertifiablyIngame That's what I was referring to. I've watched most of your STO Story Series so I know you had permission to use game footage, or at least they looked the other way while you did.

  • @lucidmoses
    @lucidmoses Месяц назад +3

    Lower Decks is pretty fun.

  • @3Rayfire
    @3Rayfire Месяц назад +1

    Today I learned Certified Ingame does not have access to a Section 31 Vanity Shield.

  • @feralprocessor9853
    @feralprocessor9853 Месяц назад

    SCIENCE!!!

  • @fingerzfrienemy2226
    @fingerzfrienemy2226 Месяц назад

    The universe is perfect.
    The multiverse has issues.

  • @AtlantiansGaming
    @AtlantiansGaming Месяц назад

    This is just a Star Trek adaptation of FTL:Multiverse! 😅

  • @MeNoOther
    @MeNoOther Месяц назад

    So if they ever did a new season of Enterprise or a long trek movie
    Trip can come back, faking death, and Section 31, and the Romulan war.
    Then retired to marry T'Pol

  • @bipolarminddroppings
    @bipolarminddroppings Месяц назад

    I felt like William was speaking for me during most of this episode. I was dissappointed that they ended up making turn around on the Multiverse nonsense.

  • @Michellejosph
    @Michellejosph Месяц назад

    this episode shows why it is not a good idea to ever promote harry kim from ensign

  • @aurorajones8481
    @aurorajones8481 Месяц назад

    It may not have a registry but it has a USS AXIMANDER name... duh we know who you are. Plus the UFP emblem in the front middle. *eye roll*

  • @berndbernd3464
    @berndbernd3464 Месяц назад

    The alternate universe not habing warp drives is a huge plothole.
    How the f do they move around when they are exploring alternate realities?

  • @garrettbodwell61
    @garrettbodwell61 Месяц назад

    This has been one of my ideas for star trek since watching Sliders. If humans could explore alternate realities and gain tech developments from Earth's that had developed on different paths.

  • @Hidesinmud
    @Hidesinmud Месяц назад +2

    I can’t imagine ever watching Lower Decks, but this does sound kinda cool.

    • @matthewal9545
      @matthewal9545 Месяц назад +2

      Its rick and morty lite, which might be a good thing, that show gets a tad bonkers

    • @dalakaar1526
      @dalakaar1526 Месяц назад +5

      The humour started out more miss than hit for me, but that turned around as the seasons progressed.
      Where the show really shines, is their ability to poke fun at the zany things all the Trek's before it has done, while also mimicking their styles and cinematography. It's not just parody, it's homage. (But yes, also parody.)
      The whole creative team knows Trek down to its DNA and isn't afraid to use what it found there. Very unique perspective that somehow works.

    • @CertifiablyIngame
      @CertifiablyIngame  Месяц назад +1

      I think it's worth a watch, the humour is subjective so I can't speak on that.
      But as others said, it is clearly made by people who have watched all of Trek and pokes fun at all the things Trek fans have for years.
      If the cartoon angle is off-putting, or the premise too ridiculous, I interpret it all as a deliberate exaggeration of events. It's canon, just perhaps dialled up to 11 in the "retelling".

  • @FrankReviews-x8s
    @FrankReviews-x8s Месяц назад

    Ok I honestly hope people don't hate. Is it wrong I feel this Garruk and Julian need couples therapy and before I'm attacked you have to admit the whole starting arguments for fun I can't be the only one who thinks that is messed-up

    • @wendyheatherwood
      @wendyheatherwood Месяц назад

      That's how Cardassians flirt though. There was that episode of DS9 with the Cardassian engineer who was really into O'Brien because the two of them were practically getting into blows whenever she tried to do anything to the station. From her perspective they were openly hitting on each other.

  • @Sephiroth144
    @Sephiroth144 Месяц назад +1

    "A version of Rick"? Oh crap, where's Morty?

  • @QuestionDeca
    @QuestionDeca Месяц назад

    So, I realized the twist for the next episode, not going to spoil, but... yeah, if you think about it it's pretty obvious.

  • @Chris-et2fm
    @Chris-et2fm Месяц назад +2

    GARASHIR NOW CANON!
    *happy queer noises*

    • @sodadrinker89
      @sodadrinker89 Месяц назад

      Too bad Bashir is a Hologram here.

  • @badwolf66
    @badwolf66 Месяц назад

    Now they need to do a Doctor Who or Rick n Morty Crossover.

  • @feralprocessor9853
    @feralprocessor9853 Месяц назад

    *Algorithm Cookie* 🍪

  • @bobg9922
    @bobg9922 Месяц назад

    Man at this rate star trek is getting impossible to follow. Too much canon, Too many timelines and so on. I wouldn't be surprised if the whole thing gets rebooted from scratch in fifteen years.

  • @kaijumaster8367
    @kaijumaster8367 Месяц назад

    I've given it some thought.
    Lower decks pandering to Tumblr by having a Garak/Bashir relationship doesn't actually bug me.
    They prefaced it with a comment about how statistically unlikely it was. They commented how the multiversity is just lazy fanons given life, and they had nothing to give the actors but bickering and physical acts of affection....(which side note, does that last one strike you as very Garak?) showing there was no meat on those bones.
    But a 21st century vessel consistently outrunning a Defiant class? That's still just making me so angry!

    • @SmartSmears
      @SmartSmears Месяц назад

      They didn't say the relationship was statistically unlikely, they said that it was statistically unlikely for two people that loved each other to end up on the Anaximander

  • @mr.e8566
    @mr.e8566 Месяц назад +2

    the EMH Bashir x Garak was so hilarious because it literally was parodying the internet fanfics that ships them both

  • @chase2806
    @chase2806 Месяц назад +4

    I am so sick of Section 31. It should've ended in DS9.

  • @kevinwestrom4775
    @kevinwestrom4775 Месяц назад

    The "Curzon" person shown in this looks to be caucasian human, not Klingon, as Captain Sisko often reminisced with Jadzia Dax about her time in a Klingon body, as Curzon/Kurzon Dax in various episodes of DS9, unless in the particular "animated" reality of the lower decks show, the 'Curzon' persona was human & had the name of Curzon vs main/prime Star Trek universe, un-animated, the Kurzon host was Klingon & the difference in realities, was why the prime universe was Klingon & the Lower Decks animated universe, the Curzon host was human.

    • @Millstone1985
      @Millstone1985 Месяц назад +3

      This Curzon was not human, nor was the standard-universe Curzon ever a klingon. Curzon was a trill, the humanoid species that symbionts like Dax are typically joined with. Trills are recognizable by two vertical lines of spots. Curzon was just really into klingon culture.

    • @sodadrinker89
      @sodadrinker89 Месяц назад +2

      Curzon Dax was a Trill that was really into Klingon culture, you really have no idea what you're talking about.

    • @wendyheatherwood
      @wendyheatherwood Месяц назад +2

      As has already been pointed out Curzon Dax was a trill. Every Dax has been a trill. In addition to that though, we saw Curzon on screen and his animated version is based on his live action appearance, though not played by him as I believe he is no longer with us unfortunately.