Claudio ought to feel very lucky that women in those days weren't allowed to exact revenge themselves, 'cause I'm pretty sure that Beatrice would have actually eaten his heart.
God, it's sad and then sweet and then happy and then angry all in one scene. Although it might have been delivered a little harshly, I might say, this version will never disappoint.
stranger yeah but it wouldn't have worked if they didn't actually like eachother. It worked Because they really were in love but just refused to admit it, so it was easy to convince them that The other loved them because they wanted it.
@@mj-rz6tp there is a hint (at the party scene, when Don Pedro tells Beatrice she has put him down) that she had loved him once or that there was "history" between them. It is sort of reinforced when she says to basically not eat his words, because it again points to perhaps him having done something similar before. On his end, after the party, he says "I would not marry her..." completely unprompted; it hints that he had that thought on his own, prior to any meddling. The prince knew there was already something there, all they needed was a little push to get past their pride
Kenneth and Emma were great together when they were doing Shakespeare. I wonder if they'd stayed married if we would have gotten another adaption or two out of them.
Bear in mind that the moment he heard it he seems to get angry for a second, like he thought she had been manipulating him this whole conversation to get him to agree to this, after that he understands she wasn’t manipulating him but still has to wrestle with his heart or his camaraderie with Claudio before finally accepting that Claudio has been a fool and cost Hero so much, at which point he accepts that he loves Beatrice more than Claudio.
I have to say I love this movie and I at least watch it once a month. People dont get my love for it but its scenes like this that make this movie amazing.
"We'll be friends first." I know he's saying that he won't let her go until she's willing to make up, but it sounds like he's saying that she doesn't need to be mad at him- they can just take it slow!
I fondly remember the time seeing this film for the first time in a theater when it came out. It is a gem of a movie. Will always stay with me. These brilliant British actors. I was very excited many years later to visit the tuscan villa they shot the movie in. I hope cinema will one day get back to these heights.
@@Irishcloth oh pardon me, stupid Bavarian. For me they are all British, but of course.... he is from Belfast. So, I mean the anglo saxon actors.... english speaking... coming from one of the british islands... not being American.... etc.
I thought the same the first time I read and watched, but got a really, really anti-Claudio lit teacher who went through his speech at the wedding and pointed out stuff like how differently he uses language from any other time in the play, and how he builds it up to be more dramatic, its just so obvious he's been practising and is kind of enjoying himself... it does make it seem like he really wanted to destroy her, and at the most humiliateing time possible
i love that other scene between them at the party when she describes him (he is masked and she is pretending she does not know it is him she is speaking to) as the princes jester, a very dull fool who both pleases men and angers them, and then they laugh at him and beat him! hahahaha classic
My high school is doing this show and I’m playing Antonio, you know how in Shakespeare shows men played women..... well I’m a female who’s acting as two males, yeah I’m also the second watchman
phew Yeah but any hint that she wasnt a maid would have done that pretty well, a messenger or if she'd gone to see her himself then yeah, he was tricked and that's fair enough. But he waited until her entire family were gathered around, pretended eveything was fine until the vows, then screamed at her and left her for dead on the floor, there's defending your honour and there's asking to be punched in the face (and luckily it doesnt even come down to that in the end)
I mean, if he'd just been upset he would have called off the wedding beforehand :/ I do get why he was angry, but that all takes it a bit far, although unlike my lit teacher i think it's just because he's really young and not the sharpest tool in the box, and he wanted to act like someone out of a book, but anyway, beatrice doesnt know any of that, he's just a random guy ruining her cousin...
Beatrice... well it's not what I would do. But Leonato and his Brother say basically the same thing before and after this scene, its just that they're guys so they can do something about it. And she doesnt expect Ben to do anything about it until the semi-proposal, as a friend its none of his buisness, its just as a lover he should trust her and do what she cant, in her head anyway.
Think I left it at school D: But if you Wiki the play and look under sources there are a couple of examples, not sure if either of them are the one I was thinking of though...
Aha! I didn't know that part! I'm a german, we're working through Much Ado About Nothing in our english class. Our teacher is rather incompetent though... so we don't really get any deeper information. That is in fact really interesting, that Claudio was like that in earlier versions! Do you have any links or sources to back that up? Because I'd like to implement that into our class. Thank you for telling me this.
Oh cool, my best mate's half german :) It's not an early draft of the play or anything but... you know lots of people say Shakespere never wrote an origional play? In the hundred or so years before he wrote that there were lots of versions of the hero/claudio story going around, it went over some of them briefly at the start of my copy of the play, I'll just see if i can track it down! and no problem :)
No, I think they actually loved each other. You probably wanna think about that one. You couldn't get any human being to take his own life for someone else unless he actually loved her... I don't care how naive he is...Just sayin'.
Yeah but that happens all the time, lots of relationships start because they both kind of think the other one has a crush on them, doesnt effect what kind of love they have when they do get together :) It does seem it, but what Claudio just did to Hero... at this point Beatrice thinks he's set it up because he's a horrible person, and he has absolutely and irrevocabley ruined Heros life. The only vauge hope for her would be to have someone fight in her honour.
Don't worry. I love reading essays. He probably wanted to destroy her reputation for what Hero did, sleeping with another man. That was a thing that stole a man of his honour. He couldn't accept this dishonour! And what was even worse was, that she'd actually still come to the marriage, smiling like a lying harlot! Of course he didn't know that it was Don John's plan all along. I don't particulary like Claudio (I prefer Beatrice),but I don't agree with Beatrice wishing death upon Claudio either.
Not nessecerily, in some earlier versions of the story the claudio type guy just makes it up to get out of the marriage or be a general ... arse. But then Ben instinctively thinks its just a mistake, so... i dont know xD Yep, it is a very cunning plan ;)
Dear everyone in the future who might read this: Do yourselves a favor and watch the version where Danielle Brooks is playing Beatrice- and it has an all black cast. She does this scene so well it brought me to tears. It hit EXACTLY the way its supposed to.
I mean, I understand her motivation, but she doesn't really try to understand Claudio. His accusations must have SOME grounds to stand on. Well, I think we can agree on Don John being a genius, right? I really like that character.
While fancy renaissance dress and the usage of capable actors in all roles would have largely improved the outcome; but so the BBC version exceeds this one a lot; and Beatrice is not so well chosen, too: She lacks a bit of the merry charisma; after all this is one of the many attempts Shakespeare made in order to write a comedy: But he cannot be funny, sober, sad and tragic but is always all and nothing and is only able to move into a certain direction and sometimes gets close to a tragedy.
Weren't both of them tricked into loving each other? Also I don't agree. Beatrice asks Benedick to kill his best friend to prove to her, that he really loves her. That's cruel. Although it's still better than Romeo and Juliet in term of love.
How about facing the truth, Monsieur Branagh? While you may play the modern villain, the mass murdering bureaucrat with a normal family life, and of course any heroic but rather blunt Shakespeare figure like King Henry V; you cannot play the witty and cynical characters very well, though your Hamlet maybe the best version of it so far: I cannot endure Laurence Oliver at all and Derek Jacobi is too feeble to play the Prince of Denmark; not to mention the attempt to play Iago a while ago.
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Claudio ought to feel very lucky that women in those days weren't allowed to exact revenge themselves, 'cause I'm pretty sure that Beatrice would have actually eaten his heart.
'Oh but I were a man, I would eat his heart in the marketplace' favourite line
I've been lookin for this scene just because of this line ;)
i got it tattooed...i Had to.
It is pretty badass, no doubt about it!
0:44 Best line Shakespeare ever wrote. EVER.
"I do love nothing in the world so well as you: is not that strange?"
Emma Thompson is magnificent in this scene.
thats not emma thompson
@@Prinxess.23 Yes it is. And they were married at the time...
@@EricBrinkmanam i confusing emma Thompson for someone else? hang on lemme google this
@@Prinxess.23 Sure, that's what google is for :) Who were you thinking of instead?
She really draws her audience into her emotional state. You can't help feeling angry along with her at Claudio.
God, it's sad and then sweet and then happy and then angry all in one scene. Although it might have been delivered a little harshly, I might say, this version will never disappoint.
This is a much better love story than 'Romeo and Juliet'- that's just a couple of naive kids. This, on the other hand, is actual love
I mean.. they did get tricked into it.. but yeah it’s a better love story
stranger yeah but it wouldn't have worked if they didn't actually like eachother. It worked Because they really were in love but just refused to admit it, so it was easy to convince them that The other loved them because they wanted it.
@@mj-rz6tp there is a hint (at the party scene, when Don Pedro tells Beatrice she has put him down) that she had loved him once or that there was "history" between them. It is sort of reinforced when she says to basically not eat his words, because it again points to perhaps him having done something similar before. On his end, after the party, he says "I would not marry her..." completely unprompted; it hints that he had that thought on his own, prior to any meddling. The prince knew there was already something there, all they needed was a little push to get past their pride
He is now as valiant as Hercules, that only tells a lie and swears it! ♥
Kenneth and Emma were great together when they were doing Shakespeare. I wonder if they'd stayed married if we would have gotten another adaption or two out of them.
Yeah... but then Kenneth had to cheated her with Helena Bohnam Carter :/
@@KanaidBlackYeah, there was that. He kind of killed the relationship.
My favorite scene in all of Shakespeare. And these two do it so well. Love it so dearly.
Emma Thompson's Beatrice is the fiercest of them all!
"Not for the wide world." 2 minutes later.. "f*** it ill do it." About the same amount of time I cave in to my wife.
Bear in mind that the moment he heard it he seems to get angry for a second, like he thought she had been manipulating him this whole conversation to get him to agree to this, after that he understands she wasn’t manipulating him but still has to wrestle with his heart or his camaraderie with Claudio before finally accepting that Claudio has been a fool and cost Hero so much, at which point he accepts that he loves Beatrice more than Claudio.
I have to say I love this movie and I at least watch it once a month. People dont get my love for it but its scenes like this that make this movie amazing.
Matthew Smith Absofragginlutely.
This is my all-time favorite.
"We'll be friends first." I know he's saying that he won't let her go until she's willing to make up, but it sounds like he's saying that she doesn't need to be mad at him- they can just take it slow!
Doing this for my high school as Beatrice and I'm nervous. She is brilliant.
chicken nugget goddess me too!!
How did you both do?
I was her too!! My show got messed up though with covid :(
I'm in it too- I got Ursula though, even if I memorized everything for Beatrice.
Emma Thompson is the best Beatrice!
I love this version. So good to see it again.
I fondly remember the time seeing this film for the first time in a theater when it came out. It is a gem of a movie. Will always stay with me. These brilliant British actors. I was very excited many years later to visit the tuscan villa they shot the movie in. I hope cinema will one day get back to these heights.
Isn't he Irish?
@@Irishcloth oh pardon me, stupid Bavarian. For me they are all British, but of course.... he is from Belfast. So, I mean the anglo saxon actors.... english speaking... coming from one of the british islands... not being American.... etc.
He is a Northern Ireland Protestant and therefore he is British.
if i were a man i would eat. his. heart in the market place! such a powerful line!
A comedy, but it was able to switch on the drama very effectively for several scenes.
who dislikes this!!!????!!!!??! this is fantastic. i wish i could be emma as beatrice but i will never be that talented in a million years.
On the very edge of a sword this play dances between tragedy and comedy.
But luckily, in the end, it was...
Emma Thompson and Kenneth Branagh did a fantastic job and they are great actors!
So I´m supposed to summarize King Henry the fifth, Much ado about nothing and Hamlet all in five minutes for a presentation.
This is impossible.
I thought the same the first time I read and watched, but got a really, really anti-Claudio lit teacher who went through his speech at the wedding and pointed out stuff like how differently he uses language from any other time in the play, and how he builds it up to be more dramatic, its just so obvious he's been practising and is kind of enjoying himself... it does make it seem like he really wanted to destroy her, and at the most humiliateing time possible
This is my fave scene in the play and in this production. My favorite comedy was Twelfth Night, but now it's Much Ado :)
This gets to me every. single. time
2:17 "is he not approved at the height of villain... etc" monologue
Emma Thompson everyone...recognize!
im playing Beatrice right now in much ado and it’s honestly my favorite role
Shoutout to every student who has to work on this movie for high school
Anyone watching for exams? Or in 2018?
Ari Child about to audition for a role for this shit
Hey, wait a minute. My name is Claudio.
That was such a romantic scene...till she said "Kill Claudio....".
That he agrees is actually the most romantic part
i love that other scene between them at the party when she describes him (he is masked and she is pretending she does not know it is him she is speaking to) as the princes jester, a very dull fool who both pleases men and angers them, and then they laugh at him and beat him! hahahaha classic
Well that escalated quickly P:
My favourite scene in Shakespeare, this.
Interesting.
Thank you so much. I love getting information like that.
...makes me feel smart. And I like feeling smart!
I'm writing an essay on this scene and It's so God dam difficult but I do love this movie
I love this scene in play and film eat his heart in the market place i.e, in public for everyone to see
I’m bout to do an audition using Beatrice’s monologue!
My high school is doing this show and I’m playing Antonio, you know how in Shakespeare shows men played women..... well I’m a female who’s acting as two males, yeah I’m also the second watchman
phew
Yeah but any hint that she wasnt a maid would have done that pretty well, a messenger or if she'd gone to see her himself then yeah, he was tricked and that's fair enough. But he waited until her entire family were gathered around, pretended eveything was fine until the vows, then screamed at her and left her for dead on the floor, there's defending your honour and there's asking to be punched in the face (and luckily it doesnt even come down to that in the end)
I’m doing this Shakespeare play at school at the moment.
I should really like to see this movie again.
I LOVE THEM!!!!!!!!
I mean, if he'd just been upset he would have called off the wedding beforehand :/ I do get why he was angry, but that all takes it a bit far, although unlike my lit teacher i think it's just because he's really young and not the sharpest tool in the box, and he wanted to act like someone out of a book, but anyway, beatrice doesnt know any of that, he's just a random guy ruining her cousin...
Ahh this is like my favourite scene 3 B and B
emma is perfect
Beatrice... well it's not what I would do. But Leonato and his Brother say basically the same thing before and after this scene, its just that they're guys so they can do something about it. And she doesnt expect Ben to do anything about it until the semi-proposal, as a friend its none of his buisness, its just as a lover he should trust her and do what she cant, in her head anyway.
My favourite scene:)
wonderfull
I cannot agree more!!!
HAS HE NOT BEEN APPROVED IN THE HEIGHT A VILLAIN!?
Think I left it at school D: But if you Wiki the play and look under sources there are a couple of examples, not sure if either of them are the one I was thinking of though...
1:48 Good feeling gone. :-(
Aha! I didn't know that part! I'm a german, we're working through Much Ado About Nothing in our english class. Our teacher is rather incompetent though... so we don't really get any deeper information. That is in fact really interesting, that Claudio was like that in earlier versions! Do you have any links or sources to back that up? Because I'd like to implement that into our class.
Thank you for telling me this.
Oh cool, my best mate's half german :) It's not an early draft of the play or anything but... you know lots of people say Shakespere never wrote an origional play? In the hundred or so years before he wrote that there were lots of versions of the hero/claudio story going around, it went over some of them briefly at the start of my copy of the play, I'll just see if i can track it down! and no problem :)
No, I think they actually loved each other. You probably wanna think about that one. You couldn't get any human being to take his own life for someone else unless he actually loved her... I don't care how naive he is...Just sayin'.
ich habe mitgespielt..
And they were married at the time!
anyone checing the comments?
watching this for school is shit but as a film on tv its pretty good
Yeah but that happens all the time, lots of relationships start because they both kind of think the other one has a crush on them, doesnt effect what kind of love they have when they do get together :)
It does seem it, but what Claudio just did to Hero... at this point Beatrice thinks he's set it up because he's a horrible person, and he has absolutely and irrevocabley ruined Heros life. The only vauge hope for her would be to have someone fight in her honour.
i was waching this in english and i may of cried..
Don't worry. I love reading essays.
He probably wanted to destroy her reputation for what Hero did, sleeping with another man. That was a thing that stole a man of his honour. He couldn't accept this dishonour!
And what was even worse was, that she'd actually still come to the marriage, smiling like a lying harlot!
Of course he didn't know that it was Don John's plan all along.
I don't particulary like Claudio (I prefer Beatrice),but I don't agree with Beatrice wishing death upon Claudio either.
@hereverydayadventure It's all about Folger Shakespeare Library original text with a Shakespearean Dictionary explaining shit.
@ECAGM000B I'd go with "No Fear Shakespeare" every time. By the people of spark notes
OH GOSH IF I WERE A MAN I WOULD EAT. HIS. HEART. IN THE MARTKET PLACE!!. O_O
If you love me, you'll kill the bastard! Right. No pressure.
Ihr habt alle Mikrovillis
Hahahahahhahahaha
@@jean-mariemoll3460 💀💀💀💀
2:20 O_O Scary Beatrice
yea
Suh dude -gabe
Not nessecerily, in some earlier versions of the story the claudio type guy just makes it up to get out of the marriage or be a general ... arse. But then Ben instinctively thinks its just a mistake, so... i dont know xD
Yep, it is a very cunning plan ;)
2:16
Dear everyone in the future who might read this: Do yourselves a favor and watch the version where Danielle Brooks is playing Beatrice- and it has an all black cast.
She does this scene so well it brought me to tears. It hit EXACTLY the way its supposed to.
who is that actress??
Emma Thompson
Hayley Jones R u seriously???
WHOA SPOILER IN THE TITLES!
(jokes who doesn't know this scene mirite?)
IsoAcq I mean, the play is 400 years old. If someone's watching this and doesn't know, they really should. 😂
great, i hav 2 act this out!! woo hoo! lucky me
(aghhhhh)
(urg sorry for the essay xD)
rage quit
I mean, I understand her motivation, but she doesn't really try to understand Claudio. His accusations must have SOME grounds to stand on.
Well, I think we can agree on Don John being a genius, right? I really like that character.
True, but Claudio had "proof" that Hero cheated on him. I don't particulary blame him for what he did. He was tricked into believing that.
Gods I also want to eat a man's heart in a marketplace
While fancy renaissance dress and the usage of capable actors in all roles would have largely improved the outcome; but so the BBC version exceeds this one a lot; and Beatrice is not so well chosen, too: She lacks a bit of the merry charisma; after all this is one of the many attempts Shakespeare made in order to write a comedy: But he cannot be funny, sober, sad and tragic but is always all and nothing and is only able to move into a certain direction and sometimes gets close to a tragedy.
Weren't both of them tricked into loving each other?
Also I don't agree. Beatrice asks Benedick to kill his best friend to prove to her, that he really loves her. That's cruel.
Although it's still better than Romeo and Juliet in term of love.
How about facing the truth, Monsieur Branagh? While you may play the modern villain, the mass murdering bureaucrat with a normal family life, and of course any heroic but rather blunt Shakespeare figure like King Henry V; you cannot play the witty and cynical characters very well, though your Hamlet maybe the best version of it so far: I cannot endure Laurence Oliver at all and Derek Jacobi is too feeble to play the Prince of Denmark; not to mention the attempt to play Iago a while ago.
I don't think emma would have got that role if she hadn't been married to ken. She doesn't suite beatrice
squeezle But her acting was amazingly and you can't deny that