I flew hang gliders for about 15 years. Thank you from the bottom of my heart, so much fun for so little expenditure, more fun than piloting light aircraft.
Hang gliders were still using hang loops made from an adjustable length of water ski rope into the late 1970’s. Great video on the contributions made by many to the sport.
We are all so indebted to Graham Henderson for discovering this lost story, ferreting out so much little-known detail, and savagely shredding the misinformation and outright lies associated with the origin of hang gliding. Anyone who loves hang gliding owes their flying experiences to John Dickenson, Rod Fuller, and Pat Crowe. Graham Henderson made it possible for us to know with certainty to whom we should direct our gratitude.
I flew hang gliders in the eighties they were entertaining craft to keep in the air especially the older ones….Moyes Mega and Moyes Micro come to mind….
Rogallo managed to get his name attached to all manner of designs that were properly credited to others. None of Rogallo's patents ever resulted in a successful aircraft. Try to find a photo of any flying device that is properly credited to Rogallo.
The Rogallo Wing was developed in the 50's (from an idea in the late 40's) but never seems to have successfully flown. NASA looked at using it for spacecraft landing (and I remember reading somewhere about a failed attempt to incorporate the idea into ejector seats during the Vietnam War) but with no success. The failed 'prototype' was given to the Smithsonian in 1967, and does not look remotely capable of flight.
@@WeFlyUniv This document is Rogallo's presentation at NASA Langly in April 1962. It contains photos of tested flying devices and also references his patent for the flex wing that we are all familar with: drive.google.com/file/d/1kF02KhdrHUFeZMIEIVRXLwv88B4vHsEC/view?usp=drive_link
That was an exceptional and once-in-a-lifetime historic event. The 30 of us had a very special and intimate opportunity to recognize and hang out with the inventor of the modern hang glider. photos.app.goo.gl/CWx8VtHjxPuggVgK9 ruclips.net/p/PLs0SoB7CJtrjnscsLfB5rqWR5pQlH_gG_&si=-L0TavKOFF8UYMzI
@@WeFlyUniv Hey Ken, I really appreciate your contributions to the sport! Would you please put names at the bottom of the photo so we can recognize who is who? Thanks!
@@srskypuppy Narrow your request please. Time stamps? Mine is a massive task. I have a a ton to upload and will not be able to add as much detail as I would like.
" Bill Moyes " also introduced " hang gliders in Australia saw him " fly at Sydney showground " towed behind a beach buggy to get high the glided down !" ( spectacular
Rogallo invented the wing itself: drive.google.com/file/d/1_NAsTQzvaB1kFrfbq9q002gQYvXwaqAV/view?usp=drive_link But Rogallo did not invent the control frame that made it a hang glider. That credit must be given to an Aussie, usually John Dickenson.
@@WeFlyUniv I believe "No role" is a bit overstated. This document shows that he did have a role: drive.google.com/file/d/1kF02KhdrHUFeZMIEIVRXLwv88B4vHsEC/view?usp=drive_link
I wasn't determined to prove anything, reporters say dumb things. I was determined to find the true story. It was amazing to me that every book, every documentary, every website, was wrong.
I only learned of the story of John Dickenson about 20 years ago. Since then I have researched it deeply with the help of Graham Henderson of Australia and Stef Malbos of France and a few others. I am immensely proud when I state that John Dickenson is the inventor of the modern hang glider and Rogallo played no role. I fight for John Dickenson's recognition as the proper Father of Hang Gliding as should every hang glider pilot. HE is the man who gave us wings. The best feeling of pride comes from something YOU do. Never let anyone diminish John Dickenson's status. Do THAT and your pride will be well warranted because it will be well earned.
What few realise is that: one, the Nazi designers had designed and built a non-rigid parachute of very similar design, THEN the Brits stole the Nazi plan at the end of WW2 and the Brits then produced a parachute called “The Wing” which flew remarkably BUT it didn’t open in freefall that well. Then NASA produced VELCRO, which allowed controlled opening of The Wing in freefall. But then came Rogollo and later Sneider with the “Ram Air designs that superseded The Wing in parachutes. BUT go back and look at the old pics of The Wing.
@ Hello graemehenderson, I guess you’re not that Au fait with the history, Rogollo designed and flew non-rigid kits using the “Ram Air” design/ principle, he and his designs are an historical fact! Likewise Steve Sneider designed. Built. Sold the first Ram Air parachutes, a historical fact. I’m not your research machine, if you’re doing a “learned” article that needs footnotes, do your own verification. I’d LOVE to learn the name of the New Zealand parachutist who designed the slider, that design alone opened up a whole facet of design because in one fell swoop he destroyed Steve Snieders patent that locked people out of Ram Air designs.
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Great video and a great Australian story 💯🇦🇺 Thanks heaps for sharing this with us. 🤠👍🏻
I flew hang gliders for about 15 years. Thank you from the bottom of my heart, so much fun for so little expenditure, more fun than piloting light aircraft.
Hang gliders were still using hang loops made from an adjustable length of water ski rope into the late 1970’s. Great video on the contributions made by many to the sport.
Way to go Pat!
We are all so indebted to Graham Henderson for discovering this lost story, ferreting out so much little-known detail, and savagely shredding the misinformation and outright lies associated with the origin of hang gliding. Anyone who loves hang gliding owes their flying experiences to John Dickenson, Rod Fuller, and Pat Crowe. Graham Henderson made it possible for us to know with certainty to whom we should direct our gratitude.
I flew hang gliders in the eighties they were entertaining craft to keep in the air especially the older ones….Moyes Mega and Moyes Micro come to mind….
Hero’s in the hanggliding community and aviation pioneers.
NACA (before NASA) came up with a design called the Regalo Wing in 1961 that they wanted to use in the Gemini Space Progra.
Rogallo managed to get his name attached to all manner of designs that were properly credited to others. None of Rogallo's patents ever resulted in a successful aircraft. Try to find a photo of any flying device that is properly credited to Rogallo.
The Rogallo Wing was developed in the 50's (from an idea in the late 40's) but never seems to have successfully flown. NASA looked at using it for spacecraft landing (and I remember reading somewhere about a failed attempt to incorporate the idea into ejector seats during the Vietnam War) but with no success. The failed 'prototype' was given to the Smithsonian in 1967, and does not look remotely capable of flight.
@@WeFlyUniv This document is Rogallo's presentation at NASA Langly in April 1962. It contains photos of tested flying devices and also references his patent for the flex wing that we are all familar with: drive.google.com/file/d/1kF02KhdrHUFeZMIEIVRXLwv88B4vHsEC/view?usp=drive_link
@@alfnoakes392 Bullshit. The Rogallos were liars, frauds, and thieves. Unless you get off on looking dumb then you need to do some research.
@@alfnoakes392 Look up National Geographic of that era. Wished my parents didn't give these issues away.
I am thankful I got to meet the guys, and Pete Brock at your event Ken. 😊
That was an exceptional and once-in-a-lifetime historic event. The 30 of us had a very special and intimate opportunity to recognize and hang out with the inventor of the modern hang glider. photos.app.goo.gl/CWx8VtHjxPuggVgK9 ruclips.net/p/PLs0SoB7CJtrjnscsLfB5rqWR5pQlH_gG_&si=-L0TavKOFF8UYMzI
@@WeFlyUniv Hey Ken, I really appreciate your contributions to the sport! Would you please put names at the bottom of the photo so we can recognize who is who? Thanks!
Didn't you video that day? Upload your video or send it to me.It will be invaluable.
@@srskypuppy Narrow your request please. Time stamps? Mine is a massive task. I have a a ton to upload and will not be able to add as much detail as I would like.
@@srskypuppy Dickenson, Brock, Palmer, de Russy. I forgot I had placed a link to the photo.
" Bill Moyes " also introduced " hang gliders in Australia saw him " fly at Sydney showground " towed behind a beach buggy to get high the glided down !" ( spectacular
It's a pity that Bill was so dishonest about where the glider came from.
Awesome.
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So how does the rogallo wing factor into all of this?
Rogallo played no role. photos.app.goo.gl/h9sWQ7kmVcvr6eDZ6 ruclips.net/p/PLs0SoB7CJtrjnscsLfB5rqWR5pQlH_gG_
@@WeFlyUniv Wait, you must be kidding, right? drive.google.com/file/d/1_NAsTQzvaB1kFrfbq9q002gQYvXwaqAV/view?usp=drive_link
Rogallo invented the wing itself: drive.google.com/file/d/1_NAsTQzvaB1kFrfbq9q002gQYvXwaqAV/view?usp=drive_link
But Rogallo did not invent the control frame that made it a hang glider. That credit must be given to an Aussie, usually John Dickenson.
@@srskypuppy I will review that file when I gain access.
@@WeFlyUniv I believe "No role" is a bit overstated. This document shows that he did have a role: drive.google.com/file/d/1kF02KhdrHUFeZMIEIVRXLwv88B4vHsEC/view?usp=drive_link
I'm sure I saw this lot do a display at Blenheim palace in the 60s.
I am sure that you saw someone else who you saw. The Dickenson Glider first appeared in the UK in 1973. The same year it appeared in Poland.
I watched my mates dad crash his hang-glider in the 1970s when I was a kid.
Off the cliff around Wonthaggi area. He was OK.
Likely Kilcunda - a dodgy low set of dunes to fly on…….
I wasn't determined to prove anything, reporters say dumb things. I was determined to find the true story. It was amazing to me that every book, every documentary, every website, was wrong.
Everyone says dumb things, Graeme.
@@thethirdman225 The one thing that Francis Rogallo did do, was to prove that you don't need brains to be a pilot.
We owe these pioneers a great debt in developing a practical hang glider.
ruclips.net/p/PLs0SoB7CJtrjnscsLfB5rqWR5pQlH_gG_&si=-L0TavKOFF8UYMzI
Fantastic video!! I flew a kite from the land, not the water.
Not that I need any additional reasons to be proud of my country, but here's yet another one. It's a privilege to be Australian.
I only learned of the story of John Dickenson about 20 years ago. Since then I have researched it deeply with the help of Graham Henderson of Australia and Stef Malbos of France and a few others. I am immensely proud when I state that John Dickenson is the inventor of the modern hang glider and Rogallo played no role. I fight for John Dickenson's recognition as the proper Father of Hang Gliding as should every hang glider pilot. HE is the man who gave us wings.
The best feeling of pride comes from something YOU do. Never let anyone diminish John Dickenson's status. Do THAT and your pride will be well warranted because it will be well earned.
" Bill Moyes and his sons sold " Moyes hangovers for many years 😳 " maybe still do !"
Moyes sold Dickenson Gliders to the world and he forgot to tell everyone where it came from. Bill Bennett played the same dishonest game.
What few realise is that: one, the Nazi designers had designed and built a non-rigid parachute of very similar design, THEN the Brits stole the Nazi plan at the end of WW2 and the Brits then produced a parachute called “The Wing” which flew remarkably BUT it didn’t open in freefall that well. Then NASA produced VELCRO, which allowed controlled opening of The Wing in freefall. But then came Rogollo and later Sneider with the “Ram Air designs that superseded The Wing in parachutes. BUT go back and look at the old pics of The Wing.
And what exactly did Rogallo do? Please provide the evidence to support your other claims, without verifiable evidence they are just words.
@ Hello graemehenderson, I guess you’re not that Au fait with the history, Rogollo designed and flew non-rigid kits using the “Ram Air” design/ principle, he and his designs are an historical fact! Likewise Steve Sneider designed. Built. Sold the first Ram Air parachutes, a historical fact. I’m not your research machine, if you’re doing a “learned” article that needs footnotes, do your own verification. I’d LOVE to learn the name of the New Zealand parachutist who designed the slider, that design alone opened up a whole facet of design because in one fell swoop he destroyed Steve Snieders patent that locked people out of Ram Air designs.