I am a new subscriber to your channel and I just want to say I love your videos. You are so entertaining. I am binge-watching all of them as a Sat night treat.
I am so shocked and saddened by this. I feel angry that this has been allowed to happen. She obviously has mental health problems. Where are her parents!? Someone needs to check on her because this is so dangerous. Her team need to be questioned and her parents need to be contacted. Has she got anyone around that can help her instead of exploit her for money. How do we really know that this girl is safe?
I've watched you alot Cam, and you keep suprising me. The emotional intelligence and maturity you show in several videos is such a breath of fresh air. And you still manage to make some funny jokes too! I don't understand the OF "profession" and how it's empowering to women. It kind of just seem to kneel down to the old school mysogonystic pov. Women are just object and if you pay a small amount you can get all the videos you want! No matter how much I try I just can't manage to understand the women that says this is empowering and screaming Feminism, and I'm a woman myself. Great job on the video Cam. Keep it up
I think it was disgusting, vile, degenerate, and totally revolting. All the condoms and tissues on the floor made me want to gag. The queue in the waiting room was just a cesspool of filth. Anyone who wants to participate in this - men and Lily have a disturbing, warped view of what is normal and zero self-love . I think that mentally none of them can be okay. I wonder how many of the men who showed up now regret what they did. I'm sure there's at least a couple of them.
The moment she said she dissociated herself from the situation after 10 guys meant her mind and body was protecting her from the trauma she was experiencing at the moment. Did no one in her team asked her if she was okay at any moment?
Of course not, they don't want to give up their cut of the profits. She already spent a lot of money on the "production". She would probably have to pay out of pocket to refund the other 90 men.
They kicked out the documentary team, likely talk her into continuing and act like everything is normal. At the end of the documentary the person that manages her said “we’ve just chucked her in the shower” like she’s an object. Remember the more money she makes the more money they make and the more secure their jobs are.
That’s like that prison guard and the Latvian barmaid with a husband at home who would just literally bend over for 3 mins for anyone. That one actually made me really sad.
honestly it was sad. The people around her, who never even tried to talk her out of it, are terrible. Yes she’s a grown adult, but even adults need guidance.
@@JF-cd5hcThat female assistant is a demon. She was allowing guys to randomly brong a friend. When lily started questioning her experince and tearing up. She hugged her. [Now this may seem sweet but its literally the worst thing] Rather then letting lilly grow and work through her thoughts, she embraced a reasurred her. Her boyfriend entertained the men to keep them there.
@@CamKirkhamit truly is. I talked to my husband about this last night, he was so sad for her, worried. We have a daughter and can’t imagine her putting herself through this): we both agreed this poor girl needs help. Whether she realizes it or not.
It’s sad she’s putting herself down for not pleasing them then all or giving in to pressure for extra time on top of everything else It’s sad we live in a world that has always commodified women’s bodies to the point women reactively attempt to reclaim take charge and capitalise on it, only to suffer from it irreparably
My mother taught me to respect women and I wear her words around my neck so as a male it quite pisses me off that the men here could go to such lengths to get 5 mins of pleasure but still ask for more and go for seconds even though they had they're chance... Like men how far have we steeped to do this
@@muggleintheupsidedownWhatever 🙄 Theres plenty of women out there who have been through hell who don’t stoop to this level, they’re way more deserving than this attention seeking narc.
her dads friends asking her for favours/subbing to her makes me genuinely sick. as you said the likelihood of them knowing her all her life is Big and that’s just 🤢
@@anonymouschickpea4271 also given the context and roleplay in some pornography its not that strange. Not saying she or they would actually do it, but since she is in that line of work the fantasy may have been though of mutually
@@anonymouschickpea4271Will it heck!! She’s the product of a “liberal” back ground! A victim of abuse would never Intentionally put themselves through this, she’s a disgrace to people who have been subjected to this with no choice.
Many victims of sexual abuse DO eengage in self harm and promiscuity. You can learn more about this from any website similar to RAINN. You don't know what you're talking about.
@@savannahglebe5165one thing I will say is people respond to trauma differently. Maybe she was abused and she's developed a psyche that states her worth is only found in being used like this/having sex to cure the surface level emptiness (like when an addict uses to temporary fill that hole - but it doesn't last), without curing the deep trauma. It's a quick hit that distracts you from certain feelings due to the cocktail of Serotonin, Dopamine, Oyxtocin etc. That being said, maybe she has trauma but this isn't a response to it. Maybe she doesn't have trauma. We all react differently. I've had a somewhat promiscuous history here and there (not by major standards, but big by my family's standards) because I felt compelled to do it to satisfy the hole in my life. If I'd had taken a quick moment to think clearly back then, I'd have done what I needed to do and be honest with the person I love sooner and done something about it - someone I've known for more than half my life who loves me unconditionally, makes me feel loved and wanted, rather than waste my time on people who lied, used me, who eventually threw me away. I've got my issues and dealt with them in a bad way like this OF girl (obvs not to her level), but we deal with trauma and life in different ways. All you can hope is that you get on the right track and learn from it. Not sticking up for her btw. I have no sympathy unless it comes out she has trauma. I'll have sympathy for the fact she has trauma, but not what she's doing here. It explains why she's doing it but doesn't excuse it.
How far from the real world has she been kept? That’s basic knowledge in school age children. Did she even attend school? Seems to me like she’s been kept as some sort of sex doll all her life to speak and act like she does yet she seems classy and normal to look at 🤷🏼♀️ so much doesn’t make sense.
She could contract any number of STD's, including HERPES which never goes away and can always be spread, with or without condoms or outbreak. The risk here is immensely grotesque. 🤢🤕
I think one of the worst bits is how there’s very little matters in place to protect her from STI’s. She didn’t even know the dangers of her catching HIV. It just shows unprepared they actually were for this. She said they prioritised men who had been tested but when it reached a point where they were just letting anyone come along, no matter if they’d been tested or not , it’s just dangerous.
I was wondering whether many hetero performers take PrEP, since it's free to commercial s workers. Of course it doesn't protect against other STIs, so hopefully condoms are being used but they can fail. I only ever hear LGBTQ people discuss it, but a lot more people are eligible and even those who aren't can buy it - which on Lily's income shouldn't be a problem!
My disgust response kicked in so hard watching clips of this docu, but when she said that I nearly threw the phone. And practically noone is speaking about it. It's either rage bait or she is psychologically in a death spiral. Her language and how she speaks about herself says she hates herself. I hope this is fake but sadly it appears it isn't.
This is so disgusting and unsafe. And also the screening process doesn't account for the type of person she is letting in. Like no kind of background check at all. They could be sexual criminals and here you are just letting them in????? Sick.
@@loserplanetthe sheer number of guys acted as a safety net from violence honestly. But the STI risk was high thet through catuion aware just to hit the mark. And scrambled because guys backed out idk if 1000 is possible. Her assistant is a demon. The wrost type to have in your corner. Garbage.
& another thing...HIV doesn't show straight away on a test, it can go unnoticed for YEARS so god knows if she's carrying it then some of them men are going home to their wives and being intimate with them....crazy!!
Her mum is her financial manager. The fact that her family are in on this and support her bad choices speaks volumes. No one around her seems to have any regard or respect for her well being. We dont encourage alcoholics to drink another bottle of vodka. This is just another form of self abuse. Online for the whole world to see. Sad and gross at the same time. Well done Cam for doing such a balanced, well thought out reaction. ❤
That explains everything… if her mom is milking her and is okay with that …. That means she raised her daughter like that, not caring about her feelings and wishes and just using her. This is textbook trauma response. Her parents are disgusting and should be investigated for something
Wow yep I just posted felt like someone else was behind this I mean reminds me of Kris Jenner and Kim Kardashian s********* and the sick parents out there who are using their children to make money doing inappropriate or wearing inappropriate things just for the followers and cash like it's disgusting
My heart breaks for this young girl. She is not having fun in any way. You only have to look at her empty eyes to see that. Anyone close to her that supports this seriously needs to take a long, hard look in the mirror. After all the hype dies down, and she is alone, i fear for her mental state.
Tbh I feel like this whole thing needs very close scrutiny for trafficking. People are making money off her sleeping with men, and whether or not is consensual is very, very unclear.
one of the most heartbreaking things to me is the fact that within the first 5 minutes of the documentary, she outright says shes “only good for one thing”
Yeah she’s got some real deep rooted problems. She looks and sounds like a classy, well spoken girl who could find and marry a lovely guy and have a great family life but acts like someone who has been severely abused as a child and every man she’s ever met. I’d be questioning her upbringing and mental state if I was someone close to her.
It's honestly so refreshing to see a man openly expressing the thoughts and feelings in this video, especially one with the platform you have. Massive kudos, proud to be a donut
(Love the pfp, I'm a huge DC fan) Honestly I think OF should be banned, im not saying that women shouldn't be able to sell nude photos but OF has just made too much drama and people have took the piss with it
@harleyfox5330 I'm with you on this. Cam is very empathetic especially towards women. I wish I could see more creators with the same perspective but sadly I don't.
@@onyx-alice8191 Many, many parents are failing their children just by letting them have completely unmonitored access to a smartphone by the time they're 14 and they're completely oblivious to it.
i think this is something lily convinced herself she wanted, quickly realised she was wrong, but was too scared to stop once she started. i also think that part of the reason she's now aiming for 1000 men in one night is to "prove" that she really did want it, enjoy it, and didn't regret it the first time around. she doesnt want to admit that she was afraid, or hurting, or just struggling in general, because she wants to prove people wrong in a way that will get her as much attention as possible. it's also very obvious that this was a form of self-harm. whether she realised it or not is a different thing, but the people on her team shouldve. i wouldnt be surprised if they did, and just didnt care. they talk about her in a way that's so dehumanising that its blatant they dont see her as a person, they see her as a tool to make money. she straight up admits that she disassociated almost the entire time. i seriously hope someone steps in, or she realises the gravity of what she's doing, before she attempts to go through with her latest challenge. but with the way her team seems to treat her, and the way so many men completely disregarded the few boundaries she set that day, i seriously doubt she will be able to get herself that help - they all see her as an object, and judging by her apparent disregard for her own mental and physical wellbeing, she completely sees herself the same way. my heart actually breaks for her - you can judge all you want, but i dont think its difficult to see that she thinks this is all she's good for (she mightve actually said it at some point, but im not certain), and is self-destructing.
Someone should have stopped it. At some point, this is just participating in a crime or in a long -staged $u!c!d@l act… I mean people should have moral standards. It may be her choice and she’s an adult but what happened to other people’s own standards? Why no on cares and uses she’s an adult as an excuse? There are things I wouldn’t want to be a part of even if the people who participated in them said they were fine with it. I have my own moral standards, thanks. People around her are just $h!t. They are not her friends. Everyone is just using her and she doesn’t seem to know how to love herself or value herself. This is sad. She was probably traumatised as a kid by her parents.
Young man. Do us a favour. Call your Mum and tell her this. Whatever circumstances you were raised in , whatever you , Cam , have been through , you are an exceptional young man. What a kind soul you are. I hope this doesn't sound weird but I'm a mother of two lads who are around your age and I know how hard it's been for them to be sensitive and considerate the world being how it is. It's not rare , but it is hard. Tell your Ma that there's a lady who lives in Australia who thinks you are a fantastic young man with a kind heart and a wicked sense of humour . Keep up the good work lad.
I watched it. The guys disgust me. Imagine travelling from Switzerland to have sex for 5 minutes with 99 others doing the same. You could tell Lily wasn't okay after. She needs help, and so do the men. It's self-harm and dangerous
Yes all the commentary about this is focused on what's wrong with her , but no one wants to talk about the men. There were a 100 of them and nobody wants to discuss THAT.
Ive literally seen everybody discuss it. Even Cam himself in this video discusses it. Youre discussing it yourself along with the comment youre responding to. How is "nobody" discussing it? What even is there to discuss? Yes theyre grim and its gross but its a product of how she has carried, marketed and presented herself. She collabs with bonnie blue the of girl that chases barely legal teen boys to do massive gangbangs before and now people are shocked? What did you expect? This is the end product of her content.@@nikkio.9990
I like that you called out the men who applied for this. Everyone is focusing on her, but there's something seriously wrong with a guy who was willing to apply for this.
@@camellia8625 exactly and it’s the same men who denigrate OF models and cornstars. With one hand they point fingers, and with the other they do something else (iykwim). No integrity.
Me too, the concept alone makes my stomach churn and I get sad. :\ its weird having those old feeling come back up. And it’s not even Sa is a choice, but I can't shake that feeling
Cam I'm honestly so pleased you've made this video. I'm a woman and there are a lot of guys who do this kind of fake talking about womens' issues while hating other men to gain womens' approval but in reality they don't care much at all. This is the first video I've seen a man's perspective on corn and OF that mentions both the effect on men and on women. It really seems genuine.
Honestly wouldn't be surprised if this is the case speaking from my own personal experience after I was gr00med and r@ped at 15 for quite a while I'd hook up with random guys to try and take back the power (never went further than giving head as I realised I can't full on sleep with a guy without having a emotional connection) but for a very long time I was wo ashamed of it and still am to some extent
The people around her are disgusting. They’re clearly just there for financial gain and think it’s fine because she’s “willingly” doing it. She’s so clearly struggling mentally. It’s horrible!
@ Why should I have empathy for someone who CHOSE to do this and shows no remorse?? WHY??? Because you’ve decided for her that she’s a victim? There’s plenty of victims in this world she’s not one of them!
Shame fuels the addiction. You feel shameful about it, but the rush and lead up to the actual act is the drug part. So to get rid of that shame you start planning the next time. I would know as I had an addiction to escorts. The lead up was a rush, the actual act was hollow and aftermath felt hollow. It was horrible. And so to get rid of the pain you just go back and do the same thing. What do alcoholics do after a night of drinking and the shame kicks in? Go straight back to the drink
just saw someone label this as empowering in the documentary and it scared me because if young girls are seeing this as empowering then our world is fcked
It disgusts me that so many men signed up to do this. And the dad's friends? Social media has already made my fear for men much, much worse, but this scares me so much more. Thanks for making this vid Cam. The way you talk about her with empathy and compassion makes me have a little hope that there are more men like you out there.
The people on her “team” that allowed random additional men to come in should be fired and face severe repercussions. Regardless of the situation, maybe there wasn’t enough precautions put in place to vet each man, but to have it go from applications where they have to have sti tests to saying yes to the men asking for their friends to join in, that’s dangerous and disgusting. She may have consented to the “challenge” but if she was involved in choosing the 100 men, suddenly having a random man she had no idea would be there, she has not consented to that
Her assistants also allowed men who’d already been in there to go back in a second time (!) when they said they were displeased with their performance. 🤮 they should all be fired for that alone! Meanwhile Lily is in there disassociating from about man number 30-40 and her own people are sending these johns in a second time!
A few red flags that i gathered about this. 1. Lily says (in the doc) that in the past she wanted to keep herself for when she would get married. What happened from that to this (basically, from one extreme to the other)? Clearly, this is not normal. People don't change so much so fast. So, that inciting factor to the change imo was not normal. 2. In the documentary, she says she didn't use to be se**al. Now she is hyper se**al and degredaing herself. Basically, letting everyone treat her horribly, surrounding herself with a sh*t team. My question would be: when did the hypersexualizing start? Look, i know that it's not right to speculate, but to me it sounds like trauma. She had something like that, and this is a form of self-harm. It don't agree with the video that it's a form of rebelling, per say. I think it is a mix of money being earned together with self-harm. I am scared for her, though. What she is doing, i couldn't imagine on anyone.
@@DaddyBiscuitsbecause she’s saying one thing and then crying about it and obviously thinking the opposite of what she’s saying? It’s not that hard to pick up on people’s emotions.
wanting to keep yourself till marriage is not extreme and was once the norm and should have remained the norm. Why are people surprised by this kind of behaviour when most people do tis to varying degrees?
It’s giving “gang grape” vibes. The guys taking part in this should be ashamed. And as bad as I feel for her, the fact that’s she’s going further after this means she isn’t going to learn from her own experiences. Sad all around really
Cheating, promiscuity, polyamory and open relationships are different things. To be active with more than one partner are some sort of relationship that should not be judged, if the people are involved are freely and openly anticipating. And it’s not a hobby, some people want to live openly and in society like that. And that’s clearly to separate from cheating. Both things may represent a promiscuitive lifestyle, but whilst open relationships and polyamory are a free choice, to be cheated on is betrayal of trust. What this girl does, is neither cheating, nor polyamorous or open relationship. She‘s performing an act, and harms herself while she’s letting the men use her like a toy. And she’s clearly traumatized by it. No healthy and sane behavior at all, and she has obviously no help from the environment around her. Just sad.
True - high end escorts exist for guys who want to bang a supermodel who's usually out of their league. In most cases, they'd be showered and hygienic before too, as a part of a good service. Guys partaking in a 100 man train ride must be desperate for sure. On the flipside, she's definitely not the first to do this sort of thing - the 'gangbang' has been a staple in porn movies for decades.
I’ve just turned 30 and trust me when the frontal part of the brain fully forms things really change. It really upsets me that she’s gone through that so young because I don’t think she’s realised the long term trauma she will feel after this. (Also speaking as a woman with PTSD from things that happened to me when I was younger.) It makes me start to shake hearing about this. This should not have happened.
@@DaddyBiscuitsits very common knowledge that the frontal lobe doesn't fully form until around 25. Was just sharing my personal experience cause I actually noticed a massive difference from the ages of 25 to 30 to how I felt and thought before. I went from being so sure I knew everything to realising I don't know shit lol
I'm 25 and the worst thing I have ever done in terms of sex is try to get a 42 year old woman to sleep with me when I was 20, and I can't begin to describe how much shame I feel looking back on something as tame as that 5 years on. I don't think Lily has truly comprehended how lonely and regretful she'll be once she is out of her twenties. Tragic.
Right, in my mid 20s and the worst decisions I made and harm I couldn't prevent hits way harder now than it did at the time. I hope Lily gets help and finds peace, and as a global society we are able to push men to resolve their disgusting ideas about women and themselves
@DaddyBiscuits it's literally common knowledge that the frontal lobe aka brain development is completed around mid 20s, which aids in better cognition. And Google is free?
i really appreciate your entire take on this. while i didn’t expect you to be bashing her, it will still always be such a relief hearing men speak about things like this with compassion and empathy. i really hope she is okay
I have so much appreciation for the way you cover this topic. Instead of just writing it off as “gross” or “degenerate” like so many others you actually bring nuance and also look at her as a person. I think it’s also important for young boys to hear how damaging this behavior is from a man. Keep it up ❤
This young woman screams childhood SA and possible CPTSD. She has has nobody to guide her and it’s clear that she’s been bought all her life. I believe her parents threw money at her but neglected to show her love and affection, or any real attention. She is obviously craving attention and only sees her worth in terms of money. She is deliberately self destructing or self harming through her actions because, despite what she says, I feel like she has very little self worth. It’s actually incredibly tragic
This is the first reaction video on the Lily situation I've seen where I feel its been looked at from a perspective other than villainizing her. I really respect Cam for not just jumping on the hate bandwagon here. Great Video
There are so many men saying that since she chose to do this they don't feel bad for her consent being violated. Because she should just EXPECT men to overstep her clear boundaries, right? But then, not all men right?? 🤔 which one is it
This is the exact thing women would fear the most when a city fell during a siege. It's also what trafficking victims have endure on a daily basis. She is deeply mentally ill.
I'm not advocating corn but the mainstream actresses in them often don't even have a body count of over 10 different men. What Lily and those 100 men have done here is a million times more messed up than watching a corn video.
Making choices about your body as a free woman is empowerment. On the other hand, I wholeheartedly agree with what you said too. She treats herself like an afterthought by not eating properly and making bad decisions like become a carnival ride for random weirdos, solely for some kind of validation, she literally said it all herself. But all she's really doing is validating men in their beliefs that they can objectify women. She literally gave them a free pass to just walk in, fvck her, and leave, like she's a literal object. They don't have to acknowledge her humanity or show they respect her as a woman at all. That's not empowerment, that's just letting pigs get away with how little they respect her and women on the whole. She basically made an empowered choice to completely unempower herself. And it's awful to see someone do this to themselves in the hope that they might feel something. I hope she gets some help before she inevitably realises that 1000 men won't fix her either.
As a soon to be therapist who is really against porn (both the industry and both consuption) your empathy towards her felt so refreshing… I feel like most of these women have some really deep issues. This situation is really sad :-(
I saw in a video she was trying to blame Josh for the reason she was crying. She said that he was pressing her with questions and she tired after “a long day of work”. I find it crazy that out of all the men she saw that day, he was the one she’s blaming for her showing such emotion. Not the men who used carelessly and couldn’t even respect the minimal boundaries she set. She is holding no responsibility on herself, probably in fear that it will take away from this image she has set herself to men. Unfortunately, the type of men who participate in this don’t want to look at this women and a human being with feelings. Just an object, and she knows that too.
I know from my own trauma experiences, I could be “fine” dealing with all sorts of hatred and abuse: it was someone treating me kindly or showing any concern which would break me down. It sounds like Lily doesn’t have the self-awareness to realise that receiving kindness and concern for her wellbeing aren’t the problem, it’s the callousness of how others treat her which is the issue. But she’s convinced herself that it’s “empowering” as a defence mechanism to avoid dealing with the pain.
@ yes I totally agree. I believe as well she is in denial. So when someone asks her challenging questions, she becomes defensive as it questions this belief system she has created for herself.
You are so right! I really wonder if her parents are sexist and only wanted a boy and made her feel like a burden, so now she thinks she has to earn as much money in any way possible to make up for it
Having sex with a man who do not care at all about you and just want to finish is a genuinely scary experience. Its such a vulnerable position. I ended up in that situation just once and I remember becoming more and more scared because he just had 0% interest in me or what I might have wanted. I said nothing because I was scared he wouldn't listen and that would in that moment have made it worse. Found out afterwards he was not just a pornaddict but a sexaddict. Thinking of the men lining up- no preparation, no human or even professional interaction beforehand, like two adult actors meeting at a shoot, even with a one night stand theres attraction and some flirting before you get down to business. This is just horrifying.
He admitted the smell of the room made him gag when he went in for the interview and that just made it seem so much more real to me. I can’t imagine what that would be like…
That's probably a lingering smell from infected semen. If a guy has chlamydia or gonorrhea especially, it can be noticed from a foul rotten egg-like smell after ejaculation.
100 men in one day is trauma to the body. If she hasn't been through SA, doing that is going to leave you feeling very close to SA. None of these men care about her or her body. I understand why she cried. The trauma was beginning to kick in. Relating to a prost;tute. I just don't understand how she is going for another round of this sort of trauma
@@dontwatchme8844technically as she’s doing 1000 men next time, it’s another 10 rounds! 😂 which is improbable in one day given that it would only give each man about one minute twenty seconds to go, no breaks, stoppages (although I suppose she could do two or three at once, fill every hole to save time)-
@@arghjayemThanks for doing the maths. 1 minute 20? I used to manage that and still have time to eat the pizza (Red Dwarf fans will recognise the reference)
You know how she said don't cum in my eye then men did it anyway? Isn't that a form of SA? It is a non consensual act to me, because she didn't want that but she was ignored
I watched this documentary and I just felt so full of anxiety and darkness through the screen. Lily is a beautiful girl, she seems like a lovely person too but has some things she needs to unpack and work on. External validation never fixes you on the inside
The fact that all these men were willing to use this girl as an object and didn't take a step back to think "this isn't right". I know there was consent, but just because she consented doesn't mean that morals should go out the window, these men should still know right from wrong.
i really hope she heals from this trauma and finds a way out, she definitely isn’t voluntarily doing this or if she is, it’s self harm and she really needs to talk to someone who can help her through it
@Krystallia87 no no. It has. Its nothing to do with prostitution. These women wouldn't be prostitutes if OF didn't exist. They wouldn't suddenly decide to leave their retail job or whatever to go to a street corner. They're doing it because it's "easy" a LOT of money and "safe". The downside? To keep up, they have to sell their souls to basically push the boundaries as far as possible. It'll absolutely destroy their life in years to come. It'll destroy their mental health. Social media and OF are genuinely the worst things to have happened to people in the past 20 years.
@@MarkPickering-k1eExactly, OF is a business, it's just personal porn, but the problem is that people subbed, people got interactions and as a business, it's succeeded, the creators of OF are buzzing, because in reality, the problem is the users that allowed it to gain so much success
How you sum up the effect of the porn industry on men and women is very insightful. Men absolutely have unrealistic expectations that put immense pressure on women.
I feel like there's some information being left out... her dad's friends feel comfortable messaging her and trying to have sex with her? I doubt this was the first time they thought about it was when she started this. She believes it's all she's good for, thats so heartbreaking and it makes me feel like someone told her that as a child and now she thinks she's reclaiming her power. This is *SERIOUS* psychological self-harm and I'm terrified of when she cant convince herself that she's ok anymore.
I'd hazard a guess that she has received inappropriate remarks and actions from men in her sphere, and her parents and other caregivers haven't stopped it.
@jaycartwright1170 Coercement. How do we know if behind the scenes lily might have second thoughts and the team enable her? Just because someone agrees to something doesn't make it not abuse. Is someone underage having sex with a 40 year old fine because they wanted it? Lily is really vulnerable and the people around her are abusing her and enabling.
I think lily and her team know all too well what they're doing. She's not stupid and nor are the people around her. It's called playing both sides. If you were to watch and see a woman (there's plenty these days) having sex with multiple men for likes and content and enjoy it and the attention and the ££ that followed you would have different opinions but because she's portrayed herself as a "gazelle" she's now presumably someone whose gone through so much trauma becauze that's the only justifiable reason in your minds as to why she and those around have allowed this. I'm not sure what rocks everyone is living under but these actions have become the norm and at first it was all about empowering women but now it's just showing the world what women deem as empowerment as something pretty pathetic like this. It's like every woman who fought for our rights turning in their graves becauze these days men women couples are just capitalising on the platforms available to make money and normalising perverse behaviour and sexualising everything.
There is no chance that none of the hundred men exhibited abusive behavior toward her. A significant percentage of them likely felt frustrated, believing they weren’t getting the ‘experience’ they expected. It breaks my heart that she does not have people in her life who care enough to guide her away from this situation.
Yeah i thought the same. All of them were wrong to do that but some of them had to be abusive. And now she would just mentioned "oh they were right to do this because without this they couldn't get pleased" ..
It would be cool if Cam and other men on RUclips profiting off Lily's story donated that money towards a women's shelter or s*xual health clinic. And kudos to Cam for speaking in such a measured, sympathetic, and constructive way!
its so scary to me how these guys can see this woman, who is obviously not in a good spot when this isn't happening, sick and tired on a bed w stuff all around her and still feel okay to do that stuff.
I find it terrifying that so many men would be turned on by this too. It’s basically gang rape. How they find any pleasure from this is scary. She is not in a good place. Why is no one around her helping her? Her parents are disgusting
Look at the infamous now case in France where a husband would let strangers grape his unconscious wife for decades and would film it, and more than 70 men from a small town where this couple lives did it to her. Even though she was obviously unconscious. 72 men. For decades. Not a single reported to the police.
I didn't know the shadiness of this, when I first heard the 1000 guys, I found it downright dangerous. The human body isn't made for that much action, the risk of injury, the risk of STDs. would there be protection, what about the risk of pregnancy, what about the levels of tiredness, I had so many questions. The 100 men in one day seemed like clout chasing. It's sad as Lily seems to misunderstand intimacy herself. This is just sad and I hope she does not go for the 1000 fellas. It may be a world record, but some things are left better unbeaten. Also I agree with you on the feminist thing. When I heard this was empowering for women I was so confused. Was it supposed to show women are strong, but this just degrades them. I think doing this does worse for women. This is just depressing honestly. Being a young man I think this shows the state of our generation. We really seem to just hurt ourselves, either by doing harmful behaviour or being exposed to this stuff. I hope Lliy does change her mind. She's worth more than this. This is just sad. Like completely depressing. Porn isn't real. It's not intimacy. It's just a performance that does a lot of harm and hurts sex positivity. Just an overall sad situation
I'm a 45 year old woman and I'm a huge fan, Cam. You give me hope that the next generation aren't all wankers. You remind me of my son, and that's a huge compliment ❤️. Donut for life!
I think the way you went about this video was really respectful and it must have been hard to do it in a way that came across really well. As a mum and as someone’s child, and as a victim of SA. This made me absolutely sob. I believe In women’s rights and she’s free to do anything she wants. But The end shows me that she is a victim whether she knows it or not. Yes she said yes to start with, but blocking it out and the realisation when questioned after about what she has just done was so hard to watch. Her PR team or whatever absolutely did not properly protect her in this particular circumstance. Yes she could have said sorry guys I can’t do this anymore but the build up to it etc probably made it impossible for her to stop it in her mind even if she wanted to because of the pressure she’s put herself under and she clearly didn’t want to disappoint people. I feel sorry for her but at the same time I feel like some OF content is dragging us back to a time where this is what kids will grow up seeing as “the norm” and it’s just not. And that then puts pressure on people partners etc as they have this unrealistic expectation, especially first relationships etc. and as a mum this terrifies me, but I don’t care how uncomfortable conversations may be, he will be educated properly when the time comes for those talks.
Also saying no to the guys might not go well. Especially the sheer amount of guys that were there. It would be a very bad situation if they decided they wanted to carry on anyways
Giving someone permission to use you and treat you like an object is not empowerment. It‘s more like preemptively surrendering because you know you won’t win.
Thank you for being one of the few ppl actually seeing the nuance in this sad situation. And also for calling the men out for what it is. It's honestly disturbing on all levels!
Even after she clearly stated that she disassociated herself from the experience is sadly tragic, yet she’s still going for 1000. Money, likes, & attention is hell of a drug. Why would anyone in their right mind put their body through this.
If her daddy is “happy” she is doing this he needs to be investigated. If her mom is happy she is doing this it’s because she is living through her daughter and wants to profit off the money she is getting.
Loved this video, it’s really refreshing to see a guy RUclipsr criticise both the men in this stunt and Lily herself while also showing more empathy while seeing things from different perspectives. Thank you for proving to me there are still men out there who see this stuff as the sickening situation it is rather than ‘well of course men will go, what do you expect?’ Which is the argument I see a lot online recently. thank you❤
We are all watching a Tragedy happening in real time. I’m really sad to say this but I honestly believe she won’t make it to her 40’s. She is suffering on the inside and doesn’t know how to get out of the situation that she feels she put herself in so thinks the only option she has is to just continue doing what she is doing. I truly truly believe that. When she cried while talking to Josh, after she had just completed the challenge. Told me everything i needed to know. If she truly believed what she was doing was empowering, I’d love to know what her reply would be if she was asked. If that’s the case, would you tell that to a little 6/7yr old girl. Would you tell that little girl that letting 100 men have their way with her in one day is soo empowering and she will feel soo empowered for doing soo. 🤔 I’d love to know what she would say to that, as I highly doubt she would say that to a little girl. Because she knows it’s not true. So if that’s the case she should stop lying to herself as well. She is absolutely broken inside, I mean, there clearly is no denying that. It’s clear for even blind people to see that but she’s also, in soo much denial at the same time as well. Yes she is doing this by her own choice, but it’s a very misguided one. I’d actually really sad to think how drastically different her life could be if only she realised her own self worth, Value, importance, acceptance, her own self respect. Her life would literally be 180 degrees opposite to whatever this is. Buy yeah, I’m calling it now. As sad as it is to say this. But I truly don’t believe she is gonna see her 40’s. 😢
When you mentioned that she said she remembers like 10 people... I think after those people Lilly might have realised she doesn't want to do the "challenge", but since she seems like a person who feels a strong need to please everyone, stopping was not an option in her mind. Can't imagine the scars that these "challenges" will leave her, this is absolutely self-harm...
This whole situation makes me want cry for her, man, there is so clearly something wrong and having to watch her hurt herself like this genuienly hurts me as a woman. Theres nothing powerful in this, its just heartbreaking. Thanks for making this video, its nice to have a guy speak out these thoughts and emotions Ive been having over this
I can't even imagine how much damage this is doing to her mentally, short, medium and long term, even if she physically comes out of this unscathed. Mentally I feel like shes really risking depression, trauma and the rest. The kind of men happy to get involved in something like this are not the kind of men most women would want to be intimate with, let alone hundreds of them in a queue to do this.
As a 22 year old woman, couldn’t agree with you more cam. This is not empowering. She is brainwashed. This breaks my heart. NO woman in her right mind wants this. Ever.
This needs to make people reflect on people that are trafficked. People are being raped 20 times a day. She chose this, consensually, and it was so damaging.
I feel so bad for her, truly.... I feel like she purposefully says negative/self deprecating things bout herself so that it doesn't hurt as much when someone does call her those horrible things. Like she's putting on this mask, this false bravado so that she's not showing weakness, she needs better people around her bc these ones are not looking out for her mental or physical wellbeing. I hope she's able to get some sort of help or therapy bc this is coming off as self harm/self punishment
It made me feel so sad. I don’t think she was prepared for the mental impact of what she set out to do. I really hope she gets help and reflects before trying these challenges again.
Thank you so much for continuiously pointing out that what the men did here was wrong throughout this video. Pretty much everyone who has spoken about this has exclusively focused on Lily being a bad person or whatever, but they haven't said anything about the men involved. These men essentially signed up to use and abuse a woman and it's so messed up.
Someone on tiktok pointed out that this can be a way of self harm and i think thats so true but so sad.unfortunately the cycle of young men becoming addicted to stuff like OF or corn is going to continue for a while, genuinely corn rotted men are one of my worse fears as a woman
When the assistant talked about networking with these guys I immediately thought about seungri, like using a woman's body to make connections and shi like it's gross.
As ever, Cam, this was a wonderfully empathetic, well-considered and nuanced video. Thank you for proving that men can respectfully and empathetically discuss issues within OF and p*rn, as I know many men shy away from commenting out of fear of sounding like they're sl*t shaming (when really, if you don't see the women as sl*ts, or any other derogatory, demeaning, dehumanising view - then you're not going to "accidentally" share that view). I am loving these types of videos thay have a more serious theme to them - your content is going from strength to strength and I love to see it! Personally, I think Lily could well have been so overcome with negative emotions after the 100 guys that she is now pressing on to try to escape those types of thoughts, reasoning that if she stays busy planning and "training", she can drown those negative thoughts out.
Thanks for this take Cam, spot on. My heart breaks; I want to give her a cuddle and tell her this isn't the way to feel self-confident - it's the way to feel like an object.
She has very low self worth and thats sad. Theres a damaged little girl in there just wanting to be loved. Shame fuels addiction this is why she felt so horrible but then in 3 days shes announcing 1000 guys. She needs help, and the people around her are enabling this abuse
I 100% agree with you. I feel bad for her and people who keep pointing out that it was her decision above anything else just lack empathy in my eyes. The amount of hate she's getting is just upsetting.
@Radtrad1221 she can't take their place, that's not how it works I'm afraid. Also if you pity someone you do have sympathy/empathy/compassion, you're already better than those haters.
@Radtrad1221 oh no I wouldn't call you a hater honestly. I see your point. I'm just seeing her as a deeply damaged woman. And to that I g8ve my love. As for the victim card I'm not entirely sure she meant to cry in this documentary and call for people's compassion. I don't think this is good for her business at all so to speak.
@annarennie why would I have empathy?? She put herself in that position and is more than willing to do it again! She's "training" remember, ya know for 1000 guys! Nothing to feel sorry for! 🤷🏼♀️ She wants to put herself in that position why is anyone feelin sorry for her?!! Makes no sense! No point having a go at me because of the facts hahahaha!
This video is so good I'm literally speechless, bloody love Cam, what a guy 😭✨ Also - I don't think you're profiting off a woman sleeping with 100 guys, you're profiting off educating people, and I think that's well deserved 👏
Cam, I absolutely adore watching your content and this is such an important video, thank you for covering it. The porn industry is a big talking point rn and it is so important to educate people about the dangers both to the individuals providing the content and those consuming it, especially young men.
Cam , you're great. You've got a great attitude. I think it's great that you have respect for women. You're more mature than men who are alot older. Don't change.
I'm 36 year-old female, and i've had many discussions with my friends that when you get towards our age you gain a lot of clarity on your younger self. You can see why you made certain choices or understand what motivated your behaviour because you have hindsight and also have greatly matured; you understand the world more clearly. Lily is not able to do this yet, especially since she is in the thick of it, so I am quite concerned with what she will have to reconcile with when she gets older and looks back on this time in her life. I can almost guarantee she will feel a lot of remorse for the death of her innocence she is bearing witness to right now when she looks back on this time years from now. And not innocence as in her virginity, but the place that her inner child lives that turns dark from losing faith in her self-worth, loses faith in the sanctity of her boundaries and body, loses faith that she is loved beyond her physical appearance, and loses faith in the belief that the world is a safe place. You can never get that innocence back; we all experience that, but she is especially going through that right now.
Hugh Hefner former gf Kendra said, "why did I feel the need to have sex with a 90 yr old man when I was 19?" When she is 40 it is gonna be weird to reconcile especially if she has a child
What did you think of the Documentary that dropped on Lily? It’s produced so many conflicting opinions!
Smells like a frog pond
I am a new subscriber to your channel and I just want to say I love your videos. You are so entertaining. I am binge-watching all of them as a Sat night treat.
I am so shocked and saddened by this. I feel angry that this has been allowed to happen. She obviously has mental health problems. Where are her parents!? Someone needs to check on her because this is so dangerous. Her team need to be questioned and her parents need to be contacted. Has she got anyone around that can help her instead of exploit her for money. How do we really know that this girl is safe?
I've watched you alot Cam, and you keep suprising me. The emotional intelligence and maturity you show in several videos is such a breath of fresh air. And you still manage to make some funny jokes too!
I don't understand the OF "profession" and how it's empowering to women. It kind of just seem to kneel down to the old school mysogonystic pov. Women are just object and if you pay a small amount you can get all the videos you want! No matter how much I try I just can't manage to understand the women that says this is empowering and screaming Feminism, and I'm a woman myself. Great job on the video Cam. Keep it up
I think it was disgusting, vile, degenerate, and totally revolting. All the condoms and tissues on the floor made me want to gag. The queue in the waiting room was just a cesspool of filth. Anyone who wants to participate in this - men and Lily have a disturbing, warped view of what is normal and zero self-love . I think that mentally none of them can be okay. I wonder how many of the men who showed up now regret what they did. I'm sure there's at least a couple of them.
Whether she realises it or not this is self harm.
1000%
YES!!! And it’s horribly sad and heartbreaking
Sadly you're right 😔
Oop lmao its not and who cares
@@saadbunniit literally is? And you clearly care
The moment she said she dissociated herself from the situation after 10 guys meant her mind and body was protecting her from the trauma she was experiencing at the moment. Did no one in her team asked her if she was okay at any moment?
Of course not, they don't want to give up their cut of the profits. She already spent a lot of money on the "production". She would probably have to pay out of pocket to refund the other 90 men.
She is their walking atm
I thought the exact same thing- she had to disassociate during it. She’s probably suicidal tbh. 😬
@@aubreysongshe didn't, did she? Thats rough
They kicked out the documentary team, likely talk her into continuing and act like everything is normal. At the end of the documentary the person that manages her said “we’ve just chucked her in the shower” like she’s an object. Remember the more money she makes the more money they make and the more secure their jobs are.
Promiscuity is a hugely overlooked form of self-harm, self-hate and a sign of past sexual trauma. That goes for males and females.
Absolutely.
I agree as a guy tbh
That’s like that prison guard and the Latvian barmaid with a husband at home who would just literally bend over for 3 mins for anyone. That one actually made me really sad.
Second that.
this! But unfortunately it's not recognised as a trauma response in males that much because being promiscuous as a man is accepted in our society.
honestly it was sad. The people around her, who never even tried to talk her out of it, are terrible. Yes she’s a grown adult, but even adults need guidance.
I'm sure people tried to talk her out of it...
@thirstaefortae5057 it seems like they enable her because it pays their bills :(
Basic pimps.
@@annarennieI’d question how they brought her up to think this is normal.
@@JF-cd5hcThat female assistant is a demon. She was allowing guys to randomly brong a friend.
When lily started questioning her experince and tearing up. She hugged her. [Now this may seem sweet but its literally the worst thing]
Rather then letting lilly grow and work through her thoughts, she embraced a reasurred her.
Her boyfriend entertained the men to keep them there.
Cam the way you spoke about her with so much compassion and kindness really made my day. Thank you for showing us that decent and kind men do exist
Yeah I think it’s easy just to take the piss out of her without treating her like a human, when you look deeper it’s a really sad situation
@@CamKirkhamit truly is. I talked to my husband about this last night, he was so sad for her, worried. We have a daughter and can’t imagine her putting herself through this): we both agreed this poor girl needs help. Whether she realizes it or not.
It’s sad she’s putting herself down for not pleasing them then all or giving in to pressure for extra time on top of everything else
It’s sad we live in a world that has always commodified women’s bodies to the point women reactively attempt to reclaim take charge and capitalise on it, only to suffer from it irreparably
My mother taught me to respect women and I wear her words around my neck so as a male it quite pisses me off that the men here could go to such lengths to get 5 mins of pleasure but still ask for more and go for seconds even though they had they're chance... Like men how far have we steeped to do this
@@muggleintheupsidedownWhatever 🙄
Theres plenty of women out there who have been through hell who don’t stoop to this level, they’re way more deserving than this attention seeking narc.
her dads friends asking her for favours/subbing to her makes me genuinely sick. as you said the likelihood of them knowing her all her life is Big and that’s just 🤢
The dad's friends have already been there I'd say. She's way too messed up, it will come out that she was abused as a child.
@@anonymouschickpea4271 also given the context and roleplay in some pornography its not that strange.
Not saying she or they would actually do it, but since she is in that line of work the fantasy may have been though of mutually
@@anonymouschickpea4271Will it heck!!
She’s the product of a “liberal” back ground!
A victim of abuse would never Intentionally put themselves through this, she’s a disgrace to people who have been subjected to this with no choice.
Many victims of sexual abuse DO eengage in self harm and promiscuity. You can learn more about this from any website similar to RAINN. You don't know what you're talking about.
@@savannahglebe5165one thing I will say is people respond to trauma differently. Maybe she was abused and she's developed a psyche that states her worth is only found in being used like this/having sex to cure the surface level emptiness (like when an addict uses to temporary fill that hole - but it doesn't last), without curing the deep trauma. It's a quick hit that distracts you from certain feelings due to the cocktail of Serotonin, Dopamine, Oyxtocin etc.
That being said, maybe she has trauma but this isn't a response to it. Maybe she doesn't have trauma. We all react differently. I've had a somewhat promiscuous history here and there (not by major standards, but big by my family's standards) because I felt compelled to do it to satisfy the hole in my life. If I'd had taken a quick moment to think clearly back then, I'd have done what I needed to do and be honest with the person I love sooner and done something about it - someone I've known for more than half my life who loves me unconditionally, makes me feel loved and wanted, rather than waste my time on people who lied, used me, who eventually threw me away. I've got my issues and dealt with them in a bad way like this OF girl (obvs not to her level), but we deal with trauma and life in different ways. All you can hope is that you get on the right track and learn from it.
Not sticking up for her btw. I have no sympathy unless it comes out she has trauma. I'll have sympathy for the fact she has trauma, but not what she's doing here. It explains why she's doing it but doesn't excuse it.
Not knowing how one contracts HIV/AIDS is killlllllllling me 💀 especially in her industry, good lord.
Yes this was the issue I had. She needs educating.
How far from the real world has she been kept? That’s basic knowledge in school age children. Did she even attend school? Seems to me like she’s been kept as some sort of sex doll all her life to speak and act like she does yet she seems classy and normal to look at 🤷🏼♀️ so much doesn’t make sense.
Right? And she's doing blowie without rubbers.... mad
🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
She could contract any number of STD's, including HERPES which never goes away and can always be spread, with or without condoms or outbreak. The risk here is immensely grotesque. 🤢🤕
I think one of the worst bits is how there’s very little matters in place to protect her from STI’s. She didn’t even know the dangers of her catching HIV. It just shows unprepared they actually were for this. She said they prioritised men who had been tested but when it reached a point where they were just letting anyone come along, no matter if they’d been tested or not , it’s just dangerous.
I was wondering whether many hetero performers take PrEP, since it's free to commercial s workers. Of course it doesn't protect against other STIs, so hopefully condoms are being used but they can fail. I only ever hear LGBTQ people discuss it, but a lot more people are eligible and even those who aren't can buy it - which on Lily's income shouldn't be a problem!
My disgust response kicked in so hard watching clips of this docu, but when she said that I nearly threw the phone. And practically noone is speaking about it. It's either rage bait or she is psychologically in a death spiral. Her language and how she speaks about herself says she hates herself. I hope this is fake but sadly it appears it isn't.
This is so disgusting and unsafe. And also the screening process doesn't account for the type of person she is letting in. Like no kind of background check at all. They could be sexual criminals and here you are just letting them in????? Sick.
@@loserplanetthe sheer number of guys acted as a safety net from violence honestly.
But the STI risk was high thet through catuion aware just to hit the mark. And scrambled because guys backed out idk if 1000 is possible.
Her assistant is a demon. The wrost type to have in your corner. Garbage.
& another thing...HIV doesn't show straight away on a test, it can go unnoticed for YEARS so god knows if she's carrying it then some of them men are going home to their wives and being intimate with them....crazy!!
Her mum is her financial manager. The fact that her family are in on this and support her bad choices speaks volumes. No one around her seems to have any regard or respect for her well being. We dont encourage alcoholics to drink another bottle of vodka. This is just another form of self abuse. Online for the whole world to see. Sad and gross at the same time. Well done Cam for doing such a balanced, well thought out reaction. ❤
Really?! I thought they didn’t really know about it?
@immegmchugh another channel showed a clip of her being interviewed with her mum. Her family definitely know and support.
That explains everything… if her mom is milking her and is okay with that …. That means she raised her daughter like that, not caring about her feelings and wishes and just using her. This is textbook trauma response. Her parents are disgusting and should be investigated for something
Her dad allowed his Partners and Friends to Take her. What do you expect
Wow yep I just posted felt like someone else was behind this I mean reminds me of Kris Jenner and Kim Kardashian s********* and the sick parents out there who are using their children to make money doing inappropriate or wearing inappropriate things just for the followers and cash like it's disgusting
My heart breaks for this young girl. She is not having fun in any way. You only have to look at her empty eyes to see that.
Anyone close to her that supports this seriously needs to take a long, hard look in the mirror. After all the hype dies down, and she is alone, i fear for her mental state.
The worst part is that she's talking herself that it was good time and all, when she's crying, exhausted and clearly unhappy.
fear not. it s
her problm
She chose this, I would feel sorry for her after seeing her cry, however, she has now said she wants 1000 men. Clearly not that upset
Tbh I feel like this whole thing needs very close scrutiny for trafficking. People are making money off her sleeping with men, and whether or not is consensual is very, very unclear.
@@nicolamoir8839yeah I don't think it's completely of her own volition I think she's being manipulated behind the scenes which is disgusting
one of the most heartbreaking things to me is the fact that within the first 5 minutes of the documentary, she outright says shes “only good for one thing”
Yes this broke my heart aswell, and these man are disgusting for wanting s*x with someone who’s clearly mentally ill
:( that is so sad......
That’s so terrible.
Her body, her choice I suppose.
Yeah she’s got some real deep rooted problems. She looks and sounds like a classy, well spoken girl who could find and marry a lovely guy and have a great family life but acts like someone who has been severely abused as a child and every man she’s ever met. I’d be questioning her upbringing and mental state if I was someone close to her.
It's honestly so refreshing to see a man openly expressing the thoughts and feelings in this video, especially one with the platform you have. Massive kudos, proud to be a donut
Always try and show all perspectives rather than just attacking the person, hopefully this makes for a more well rounded video to watch 🙏🏻
i would laugh seeing the que for this like imagine how long it would be and then when people ask why you are in que also.
(Love the pfp, I'm a huge DC fan)
Honestly I think OF should be banned, im not saying that women shouldn't be able to sell nude photos but OF has just made too much drama and people have took the piss with it
@harleyfox5330 I'm with you on this. Cam is very empathetic especially towards women. I wish I could see more creators with the same perspective but sadly I don't.
@@ravenspurplebeats5412 how is that funny…..
Every single person around this woman has failed her. She's not well and nobody has helped her, this never should have happened
@@onyx-alice8191 Many, many parents are failing their children just by letting them have completely unmonitored access to a smartphone by the time they're 14 and they're completely oblivious to it.
i think this is something lily convinced herself she wanted, quickly realised she was wrong, but was too scared to stop once she started. i also think that part of the reason she's now aiming for 1000 men in one night is to "prove" that she really did want it, enjoy it, and didn't regret it the first time around. she doesnt want to admit that she was afraid, or hurting, or just struggling in general, because she wants to prove people wrong in a way that will get her as much attention as possible.
it's also very obvious that this was a form of self-harm. whether she realised it or not is a different thing, but the people on her team shouldve. i wouldnt be surprised if they did, and just didnt care. they talk about her in a way that's so dehumanising that its blatant they dont see her as a person, they see her as a tool to make money. she straight up admits that she disassociated almost the entire time. i seriously hope someone steps in, or she realises the gravity of what she's doing, before she attempts to go through with her latest challenge. but with the way her team seems to treat her, and the way so many men completely disregarded the few boundaries she set that day, i seriously doubt she will be able to get herself that help - they all see her as an object, and judging by her apparent disregard for her own mental and physical wellbeing, she completely sees herself the same way.
my heart actually breaks for her - you can judge all you want, but i dont think its difficult to see that she thinks this is all she's good for (she mightve actually said it at some point, but im not certain), and is self-destructing.
You miss the part where there is clip somewhere that she wanted to do another 300 a day for warming up session toward the 1000 men.
She is not convincing herself, she is convincing her potential customers. She is selling a fantasy to freaks
Someone should have stopped it. At some point, this is just participating in a crime or in a long -staged $u!c!d@l act… I mean people should have moral standards. It may be her choice and she’s an adult but what happened to other people’s own standards? Why no on cares and uses she’s an adult as an excuse? There are things I wouldn’t want to be a part of even if the people who participated in them said they were fine with it. I have my own moral standards, thanks. People around her are just $h!t. They are not her friends. Everyone is just using her and she doesn’t seem to know how to love herself or value herself. This is sad. She was probably traumatised as a kid by her parents.
@vampi_red boy, the excuses you piled out of the manure pile for her, are just ridiculous.
Young man. Do us a favour. Call your Mum and tell her this. Whatever circumstances you were raised in , whatever you , Cam , have been through , you are an exceptional young man. What a kind soul you are. I hope this doesn't sound weird but I'm a mother of two lads who are around your age and I know how hard it's been for them to be sensitive and considerate the world being how it is. It's not rare , but it is hard. Tell your Ma that there's a lady who lives in Australia who thinks you are a fantastic young man with a kind heart and a wicked sense of humour . Keep up the good work lad.
Haha this is very kind of you!
This is such a kind comment, but I do hope your boys learn that it’s actually NOT hard to be sensitive and considerate. 🫶
I completely agree with this comment
Plus one Aussie mum here agreeing with everything said
@@notamberpit’s hard with the influences young men have today and the peers they are around.
I watched it. The guys disgust me. Imagine travelling from Switzerland to have sex for 5 minutes with 99 others doing the same. You could tell Lily wasn't okay after. She needs help, and so do the men. It's self-harm and dangerous
Yes all the commentary about this is focused on what's wrong with her , but no one wants to talk about the men. There were a 100 of them and nobody wants to discuss THAT.
I couldn't even get it up if I was a man. There is nothing sexy about a woman completely checked out of her body like a plastic toy... So sick.
@@nikkio.9990she slept with all of them. Obviously that’s worse
@@nikkio.9990whats there to discuss?
Ive literally seen everybody discuss it. Even Cam himself in this video discusses it. Youre discussing it yourself along with the comment youre responding to. How is "nobody" discussing it? What even is there to discuss? Yes theyre grim and its gross but its a product of how she has carried, marketed and presented herself. She collabs with bonnie blue the of girl that chases barely legal teen boys to do massive gangbangs before and now people are shocked? What did you expect? This is the end product of her content.@@nikkio.9990
I like that you called out the men who applied for this. Everyone is focusing on her, but there's something seriously wrong with a guy who was willing to apply for this.
It is also the men who are watching it, who are paying for it. Without them, I doubt it would be happening.
@@camellia8625 exactly and it’s the same men who denigrate OF models and cornstars. With one hand they point fingers, and with the other they do something else (iykwim). No integrity.
Seeing her cry afterwards, it really resurrected my own SA trauma from my own youth. Actually felt physically sick and really disturbed.
I hope you are okay
I'm really sorry, get better
Me too, the concept alone makes my stomach churn and I get sad. :\ its weird having those old feeling come back up. And it’s not even Sa is a choice, but I can't shake that feeling
I hope you're ok. You're not alone on dealing with sexual trauma
Cam I'm honestly so pleased you've made this video. I'm a woman and there are a lot of guys who do this kind of fake talking about womens' issues while hating other men to gain womens' approval but in reality they don't care much at all. This is the first video I've seen a man's perspective on corn and OF that mentions both the effect on men and on women. It really seems genuine.
Girls like this just scream sa trauma at me 😢 and agree with the self harm comment. It’s actually heartbreaking. Someone has seriously hurt this girl
100%. My first thought too. You don’t do things like this without there being something wrong inside 😿
@@rebecca_____ 💯 it’s heartbreaking. Hopefully she can see the light and realise her value and true potential
@@rebecca_____ and become a survivor and not a victim. Break the silence
I thought of the same thing!
Honestly wouldn't be surprised if this is the case speaking from my own personal experience after I was gr00med and r@ped at 15 for quite a while I'd hook up with random guys to try and take back the power (never went further than giving head as I realised I can't full on sleep with a guy without having a emotional connection) but for a very long time I was wo ashamed of it and still am to some extent
The way her assistant just said “we chucked her in the shower” after it so casually says so much, really hope this girl gets the help she needs :(
The people around her are disgusting. They’re clearly just there for financial gain and think it’s fine because she’s “willingly” doing it. She’s so clearly struggling mentally. It’s horrible!
Help!?
Theres many more deserving people who need help!!
She needs a reality check and publicly flogging for what shes done to society!
@@savannahglebe5165 the pure empathy in your comment is astounding…
@ Why should I have empathy for someone who CHOSE to do this and shows no remorse??
WHY???
Because you’ve decided for her that she’s a victim?
There’s plenty of victims in this world she’s not one of them!
@@gwendolyn2442 The sheer stupidity in yours is embarrassing.
I want to feel sorry for her after the 100 guys thing but she's still going ahead with 1000 (??) people, she desperately needs help
Shame fuels the addiction. You feel shameful about it, but the rush and lead up to the actual act is the drug part. So to get rid of that shame you start planning the next time.
I would know as I had an addiction to escorts. The lead up was a rush, the actual act was hollow and aftermath felt hollow. It was horrible. And so to get rid of the pain you just go back and do the same thing.
What do alcoholics do after a night of drinking and the shame kicks in? Go straight back to the drink
Makes sense @@Bandicoot1234
@@Bandicoot1234 I never thought about it like that.. thanks for sharing this perspective.
That is very well said. As a former addict myself, this makes sense.
@@Bandicoot1234 So true. Looks like she's in an active addiction.
I'm glad we as a society are starting to not call this behavior "empowering", and recognizing that the people involved (on both sides) just need help
So am I, it’s very heartening to see so many people commenting here in such a compassionate way
just saw someone label this as empowering in the documentary and it scared me because if young girls are seeing this as empowering then our world is fcked
It disgusts me that so many men signed up to do this. And the dad's friends? Social media has already made my fear for men much, much worse, but this scares me so much more.
Thanks for making this vid Cam. The way you talk about her with empathy and compassion makes me have a little hope that there are more men like you out there.
The people on her “team” that allowed random additional men to come in should be fired and face severe repercussions. Regardless of the situation, maybe there wasn’t enough precautions put in place to vet each man, but to have it go from applications where they have to have sti tests to saying yes to the men asking for their friends to join in, that’s dangerous and disgusting. She may have consented to the “challenge” but if she was involved in choosing the 100 men, suddenly having a random man she had no idea would be there, she has not consented to that
Her assistants also allowed men who’d already been in there to go back in a second time (!) when they said they were displeased with their performance. 🤮 they should all be fired for that alone! Meanwhile Lily is in there disassociating from about man number 30-40 and her own people are sending these johns in a second time!
A few red flags that i gathered about this.
1. Lily says (in the doc) that in the past she wanted to keep herself for when she would get married. What happened from that to this (basically, from one extreme to the other)? Clearly, this is not normal. People don't change so much so fast. So, that inciting factor to the change imo was not normal.
2. In the documentary, she says she didn't use to be se**al. Now she is hyper se**al and degredaing herself. Basically, letting everyone treat her horribly, surrounding herself with a sh*t team. My question would be: when did the hypersexualizing start?
Look, i know that it's not right to speculate, but to me it sounds like trauma. She had something like that, and this is a form of self-harm. It don't agree with the video that it's a form of rebelling, per say. I think it is a mix of money being earned together with self-harm.
I am scared for her, though. What she is doing, i couldn't imagine on anyone.
She could also possibly have bipolar disorder (one of the symptoms of that is being impulsive and can be hyper sexual)
@@DaddyBiscuitsbecause she’s saying one thing and then crying about it and obviously thinking the opposite of what she’s saying? It’s not that hard to pick up on people’s emotions.
The level of detachment, and how she maintains the narrative inside her...... I'm worried this lost soul will be dead in 5 years 😟😟😟☹️
It's so common for s*x workers to come from conservative backgrounds.
wanting to keep yourself till marriage is not extreme and was once the norm and should have remained the norm. Why are people surprised by this kind of behaviour when most people do tis to varying degrees?
It’s giving “gang grape” vibes. The guys taking part in this should be ashamed.
And as bad as I feel for her, the fact that’s she’s going further after this means she isn’t going to learn from her own experiences.
Sad all around really
Cheating, promiscuity, polyamory and open relationships are different things. To be active with more than one partner are some sort of relationship that should not be judged, if the people are involved are freely and openly anticipating. And it’s not a hobby, some people want to live openly and in society like that. And that’s clearly to separate from cheating. Both things may represent a promiscuitive lifestyle, but whilst open relationships and polyamory are a free choice, to be cheated on is betrayal of trust.
What this girl does, is neither cheating, nor polyamorous or open relationship. She‘s performing an act, and harms herself while she’s letting the men use her like a toy. And she’s clearly traumatized by it. No healthy and sane behavior at all, and she has obviously no help from the environment around her. Just sad.
True - high end escorts exist for guys who want to bang a supermodel who's usually out of their league. In most cases, they'd be showered and hygienic before too, as a part of a good service. Guys partaking in a 100 man train ride must be desperate for sure. On the flipside, she's definitely not the first to do this sort of thing - the 'gangbang' has been a staple in porn movies for decades.
I’ve just turned 30 and trust me when the frontal part of the brain fully forms things really change. It really upsets me that she’s gone through that so young because I don’t think she’s realised the long term trauma she will feel after this. (Also speaking as a woman with PTSD from things that happened to me when I was younger.) It makes me start to shake hearing about this. This should not have happened.
@@DaddyBiscuitsits very common knowledge that the frontal lobe doesn't fully form until around 25. Was just sharing my personal experience cause I actually noticed a massive difference from the ages of 25 to 30 to how I felt and thought before. I went from being so sure I knew everything to realising I don't know shit lol
@@DaddyBiscuitsit's 25 and Google it instead of "trust me' post
I'm 25 and the worst thing I have ever done in terms of sex is try to get a 42 year old woman to sleep with me when I was 20, and I can't begin to describe how much shame I feel looking back on something as tame as that 5 years on. I don't think Lily has truly comprehended how lonely and regretful she'll be once she is out of her twenties. Tragic.
Right, in my mid 20s and the worst decisions I made and harm I couldn't prevent hits way harder now than it did at the time. I hope Lily gets help and finds peace, and as a global society we are able to push men to resolve their disgusting ideas about women and themselves
@DaddyBiscuits it's literally common knowledge that the frontal lobe aka brain development is completed around mid 20s, which aids in better cognition. And Google is free?
i really appreciate your entire take on this. while i didn’t expect you to be bashing her, it will still always be such a relief hearing men speak about things like this with compassion and empathy. i really hope she is okay
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Oh the irony
@@notthething9531 ?
I have so much appreciation for the way you cover this topic. Instead of just writing it off as “gross” or “degenerate” like so many others you actually bring nuance and also look at her as a person. I think it’s also important for young boys to hear how damaging this behavior is from a man. Keep it up ❤
Thank you !!
This young woman screams childhood SA and possible CPTSD. She has has nobody to guide her and it’s clear that she’s been bought all her life. I believe her parents threw money at her but neglected to show her love and affection, or any real attention. She is obviously craving attention and only sees her worth in terms of money. She is deliberately self destructing or self harming through her actions because, despite what she says, I feel like she has very little self worth. It’s actually incredibly tragic
Thank you for speaking about the men who queue too instead of like most people, putting all the hate on the woman.
This is the first reaction video on the Lily situation I've seen where I feel its been looked at from a perspective other than villainizing her. I really respect Cam for not just jumping on the hate bandwagon here. Great Video
There's a really good take from a girl who was trafficked as well. Don't remember her name though.
There are so many men saying that since she chose to do this they don't feel bad for her consent being violated. Because she should just EXPECT men to overstep her clear boundaries, right? But then, not all men right?? 🤔 which one is it
This is the exact thing women would fear the most when a city fell during a siege. It's also what trafficking victims have endure on a daily basis. She is deeply mentally ill.
The corn industry has always been so exploitative and I think with OF it has spiralled out of control
I'm not advocating corn but the mainstream actresses in them often don't even have a body count of over 10 different men. What Lily and those 100 men have done here is a million times more messed up than watching a corn video.
Because the real issue isn’t some shadowy industry- it’s the consumers.
Making choices about your body as a free woman is empowerment. On the other hand, I wholeheartedly agree with what you said too. She treats herself like an afterthought by not eating properly and making bad decisions like become a carnival ride for random weirdos, solely for some kind of validation, she literally said it all herself. But all she's really doing is validating men in their beliefs that they can objectify women. She literally gave them a free pass to just walk in, fvck her, and leave, like she's a literal object. They don't have to acknowledge her humanity or show they respect her as a woman at all. That's not empowerment, that's just letting pigs get away with how little they respect her and women on the whole. She basically made an empowered choice to completely unempower herself. And it's awful to see someone do this to themselves in the hope that they might feel something. I hope she gets some help before she inevitably realises that 1000 men won't fix her either.
As a soon to be therapist who is really against porn (both the industry and both consuption) your empathy towards her felt so refreshing… I feel like most of these women have some really deep issues. This situation is really sad :-(
I saw in a video she was trying to blame Josh for the reason she was crying. She said that he was pressing her with questions and she tired after “a long day of work”. I find it crazy that out of all the men she saw that day, he was the one she’s blaming for her showing such emotion. Not the men who used carelessly and couldn’t even respect the minimal boundaries she set.
She is holding no responsibility on herself, probably in fear that it will take away from this image she has set herself to men. Unfortunately, the type of men who participate in this don’t want to look at this women and a human being with feelings. Just an object, and she knows that too.
I know from my own trauma experiences, I could be “fine” dealing with all sorts of hatred and abuse: it was someone treating me kindly or showing any concern which would break me down. It sounds like Lily doesn’t have the self-awareness to realise that receiving kindness and concern for her wellbeing aren’t the problem, it’s the callousness of how others treat her which is the issue. But she’s convinced herself that it’s “empowering” as a defence mechanism to avoid dealing with the pain.
@ yes I totally agree. I believe as well she is in denial. So when someone asks her challenging questions, she becomes defensive as it questions this belief system she has created for herself.
To an extent I think it’s important to remember that sometimes an outwardly ‘perfect’ family may not be behind closed doors
You are so right! I really wonder if her parents are sexist and only wanted a boy and made her feel like a burden, so now she thinks she has to earn as much money in any way possible to make up for it
Having sex with a man who do not care at all about you and just want to finish is a genuinely scary experience. Its such a vulnerable position. I ended up in that situation just once and I remember becoming more and more scared because he just had 0% interest in me or what I might have wanted. I said nothing because I was scared he wouldn't listen and that would in that moment have made it worse. Found out afterwards he was not just a pornaddict but a sexaddict. Thinking of the men lining up- no preparation, no human or even professional interaction beforehand, like two adult actors meeting at a shoot, even with a one night stand theres attraction and some flirting before you get down to business. This is just horrifying.
Imagine the smell of the room afterwards man 😭😭
@@TheJoeGoldberg hahahahha
Yeah wouldn’t want that as scented candle
Jizzy
You can hear the cameraman on the documentary gag as he enters the room after she’s finished! 😂
🤘🤣
He admitted the smell of the room made him gag when he went in for the interview and that just made it seem so much more real to me. I can’t imagine what that would be like…
That's probably a lingering smell from infected semen. If a guy has chlamydia or gonorrhea especially, it can be noticed from a foul rotten egg-like smell after ejaculation.
Proper pungent, almost spicy
Like a tuna factory
Lily needs a relationship that’s NOT transactional in her life! Poor girl! I hope she gets the help she obviously needs
Its actually possible she has suffered from SA tbh....
100 men in one day is trauma to the body. If she hasn't been through SA, doing that is going to leave you feeling very close to SA. None of these men care about her or her body.
I understand why she cried. The trauma was beginning to kick in. Relating to a prost;tute.
I just don't understand how she is going for another round of this sort of trauma
@@dontwatchme8844technically as she’s doing 1000 men next time, it’s another 10 rounds! 😂 which is improbable in one day given that it would only give each man about one minute twenty seconds to go, no breaks, stoppages (although I suppose she could do two or three at once, fill every hole to save time)-
Of course. And I'd start by looking at the family and especially the dad's friends.
@@arghjayemThanks for doing the maths. 1 minute 20? I used to manage that and still have time to eat the pizza (Red Dwarf fans will recognise the reference)
You know how she said don't cum in my eye then men did it anyway? Isn't that a form of SA? It is a non consensual act to me, because she didn't want that but she was ignored
I watched this documentary and I just felt so full of anxiety and darkness through the screen. Lily is a beautiful girl, she seems like a lovely person too but has some things she needs to unpack and work on. External validation never fixes you on the inside
The fact that all these men were willing to use this girl as an object and didn't take a step back to think "this isn't right". I know there was consent, but just because she consented doesn't mean that morals should go out the window, these men should still know right from wrong.
i really hope she heals from this trauma and finds a way out, she definitely isn’t voluntarily doing this or if she is, it’s self harm and she really needs to talk to someone who can help her through it
Onlyfans has ruined this generation
Stupidity has ruined this generation
@Krystallia87 no no. It has. Its nothing to do with prostitution. These women wouldn't be prostitutes if OF didn't exist. They wouldn't suddenly decide to leave their retail job or whatever to go to a street corner. They're doing it because it's "easy" a LOT of money and "safe". The downside? To keep up, they have to sell their souls to basically push the boundaries as far as possible. It'll absolutely destroy their life in years to come. It'll destroy their mental health. Social media and OF are genuinely the worst things to have happened to people in the past 20 years.
it's ruined the internet
@@MarkPickering-k1eExactly, OF is a business, it's just personal porn, but the problem is that people subbed, people got interactions and as a business, it's succeeded, the creators of OF are buzzing, because in reality, the problem is the users that allowed it to gain so much success
Social media as a whole has destroyed people of all ages.
How you sum up the effect of the porn industry on men and women is very insightful. Men absolutely have unrealistic expectations that put immense pressure on women.
And no vice versa???😅😅😅
I feel like there's some information being left out... her dad's friends feel comfortable messaging her and trying to have sex with her? I doubt this was the first time they thought about it was when she started this. She believes it's all she's good for, thats so heartbreaking and it makes me feel like someone told her that as a child and now she thinks she's reclaiming her power. This is *SERIOUS* psychological self-harm and I'm terrified of when she cant convince herself that she's ok anymore.
I'd hazard a guess that she has received inappropriate remarks and actions from men in her sphere, and her parents and other caregivers haven't stopped it.
Why is it become a lot like black mirror omg
It has! Proper black mirror vibes
You absolutely said it all Cam! And I'm so glad you're not afraid of truly telling your mind! Lots of respect to you!
In my opinion this is gone beyond just an of thing this should be considered sex trafficking and it should be heavily heavily illegal
what part of its trafficking? genuinely curious cos it’s definitely fucked don’t get me wrong but she’s signed up for it
You're allowed to have sex with many people at once. That's not trafficking or illegal.
@jaycartwright1170 Coercement. How do we know if behind the scenes lily might have second thoughts and the team enable her? Just because someone agrees to something doesn't make it not abuse. Is someone underage having sex with a 40 year old fine because they wanted it?
Lily is really vulnerable and the people around her are abusing her and enabling.
I think lily and her team know all too well what they're doing. She's not stupid and nor are the people around her. It's called playing both sides. If you were to watch and see a woman (there's plenty these days) having sex with multiple men for likes and content and enjoy it and the attention and the ££ that followed you would have different opinions but because she's portrayed herself as a "gazelle" she's now presumably someone whose gone through so much trauma becauze that's the only justifiable reason in your minds as to why she and those around have allowed this. I'm not sure what rocks everyone is living under but these actions have become the norm and at first it was all about empowering women but now it's just showing the world what women deem as empowerment as something pretty pathetic like this. It's like every woman who fought for our rights turning in their graves becauze these days men women couples are just capitalising on the platforms available to make money and normalising perverse behaviour and sexualising everything.
There is no chance that none of the hundred men exhibited abusive behavior toward her. A significant percentage of them likely felt frustrated, believing they weren’t getting the ‘experience’ they expected. It breaks my heart that she does not have people in her life who care enough to guide her away from this situation.
Yeah i thought the same. All of them were wrong to do that but some of them had to be abusive. And now she would just mentioned "oh they were right to do this because without this they couldn't get pleased" ..
It would be cool if Cam and other men on RUclips profiting off Lily's story donated that money towards a women's shelter or s*xual health clinic. And kudos to Cam for speaking in such a measured, sympathetic, and constructive way!
Or to help people saved from sex Trafficking
This is an amazing idea!
@@liakogogidze2933yes 100% agree
Being called a doughnut by cam is the highlight of my day
its so scary to me how these guys can see this woman, who is obviously not in a good spot when this isn't happening, sick and tired on a bed w stuff all around her and still feel okay to do that stuff.
That’s what they get off on. Humiliation fetish
I find it terrifying that so many men would be turned on by this too. It’s basically gang rape. How they find any pleasure from this is scary. She is not in a good place. Why is no one around her helping her? Her parents are disgusting
Look at the infamous now case in France where a husband would let strangers grape his unconscious wife for decades and would film it, and more than 70 men from a small town where this couple lives did it to her. Even though she was obviously unconscious. 72 men. For decades. Not a single reported to the police.
I didn't know the shadiness of this, when I first heard the 1000 guys, I found it downright dangerous. The human body isn't made for that much action, the risk of injury, the risk of STDs. would there be protection, what about the risk of pregnancy, what about the levels of tiredness, I had so many questions. The 100 men in one day seemed like clout chasing. It's sad as Lily seems to misunderstand intimacy herself. This is just sad and I hope she does not go for the 1000 fellas. It may be a world record, but some things are left better unbeaten. Also I agree with you on the feminist thing. When I heard this was empowering for women I was so confused. Was it supposed to show women are strong, but this just degrades them. I think doing this does worse for women. This is just depressing honestly. Being a young man I think this shows the state of our generation. We really seem to just hurt ourselves, either by doing harmful behaviour or being exposed to this stuff. I hope Lliy does change her mind. She's worth more than this. This is just sad. Like completely depressing. Porn isn't real. It's not intimacy. It's just a performance that does a lot of harm and hurts sex positivity. Just an overall sad situation
Self harm comes In so many different forms and even if this isn’t widely recognised as one it definitely is, wether she realises she’s doing it or not
I'm a 45 year old woman and I'm a huge fan, Cam. You give me hope that the next generation aren't all wankers. You remind me of my son, and that's a huge compliment ❤️. Donut for life!
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@@CamKirkhamas a 40 year old woman I agree. My daughter is 22 next month and I often wish she was with someone like him 😂 keep it up Cam!
I think the way you went about this video was really respectful and it must have been hard to do it in a way that came across really well. As a mum and as someone’s child, and as a victim of SA. This made me absolutely sob. I believe In women’s rights and she’s free to do anything she wants. But The end shows me that she is a victim whether she knows it or not. Yes she said yes to start with, but blocking it out and the realisation when questioned after about what she has just done was so hard to watch. Her PR team or whatever absolutely did not properly protect her in this particular circumstance. Yes she could have said sorry guys I can’t do this anymore but the build up to it etc probably made it impossible for her to stop it in her mind even if she wanted to because of the pressure she’s put herself under and she clearly didn’t want to disappoint people. I feel sorry for her but at the same time I feel like some OF content is dragging us back to a time where this is what kids will grow up seeing as “the norm” and it’s just not. And that then puts pressure on people partners etc as they have this unrealistic expectation, especially first relationships etc. and as a mum this terrifies me, but I don’t care how uncomfortable conversations may be, he will be educated properly when the time comes for those talks.
Such a well written comment.. it’s truly really sad watching this and watching nobody in her circle support her. ❤️
Also saying no to the guys might not go well. Especially the sheer amount of guys that were there. It would be a very bad situation if they decided they wanted to carry on anyways
Giving someone permission to use you and treat you like an object is not empowerment. It‘s more like preemptively surrendering because you know you won’t win.
Like a fawn response to the sickest parts of patriarchy
Thank you for being one of the few ppl actually seeing the nuance in this sad situation. And also for calling the men out for what it is. It's honestly disturbing on all levels!
Every man that signed up to this is a disgrace, I hope they can look themselves in the mirror and feel utter shame
Even after she clearly stated that she disassociated herself from the experience is sadly tragic, yet she’s still going for 1000. Money, likes, & attention is hell of a drug. Why would anyone in their right mind put their body through this.
If her daddy is “happy” she is doing this he needs to be investigated. If her mom is happy she is doing this it’s because she is living through her daughter and wants to profit off the money she is getting.
its so hard to watch someone actively self harming and traumatising themselves due to this ingrained misoginy/internalised low self-worth
How disgusting do you have to be. To line up and abuse her when she clearly needs professional help. Let alone paying to access her content to watch.
I laughed at your fan joke Cam 😂
Loved this video, it’s really refreshing to see a guy RUclipsr criticise both the men in this stunt and Lily herself while also showing more empathy while seeing things from different perspectives. Thank you for proving to me there are still men out there who see this stuff as the sickening situation it is rather than ‘well of course men will go, what do you expect?’ Which is the argument I see a lot online recently. thank you❤
We are all watching a Tragedy happening in real time.
I’m really sad to say this but I honestly believe she won’t make it to her 40’s.
She is suffering on the inside and doesn’t know how to get out of the situation that she feels she put herself in so thinks the only option she has is to just continue doing what she is doing.
I truly truly believe that.
When she cried while talking to Josh, after she had just completed the challenge. Told me everything i needed to know.
If she truly believed what she was doing was empowering, I’d love to know what her reply would be if she was asked. If that’s the case, would you tell that to a little 6/7yr old girl. Would you tell that little girl that letting 100 men have their way with her in one day is soo empowering and she will feel soo empowered for doing soo. 🤔
I’d love to know what she would say to that, as I highly doubt she would say that to a little girl. Because she knows it’s not true. So if that’s the case she should stop lying to herself as well.
She is absolutely broken inside, I mean, there clearly is no denying that. It’s clear for even blind people to see that but she’s also, in soo much denial at the same time as well.
Yes she is doing this by her own choice, but it’s a very misguided one.
I’d actually really sad to think how drastically different her life could be if only she realised her own self worth, Value, importance, acceptance, her own self respect.
Her life would literally be 180 degrees opposite to whatever this is.
Buy yeah, I’m calling it now. As sad as it is to say this. But I truly don’t believe she is gonna see her 40’s. 😢
When you mentioned that she said she remembers like 10 people... I think after those people Lilly might have realised she doesn't want to do the "challenge", but since she seems like a person who feels a strong need to please everyone, stopping was not an option in her mind. Can't imagine the scars that these "challenges" will leave her, this is absolutely self-harm...
This whole situation makes me want cry for her, man, there is so clearly something wrong and having to watch her hurt herself like this genuienly hurts me as a woman. Theres nothing powerful in this, its just heartbreaking. Thanks for making this video, its nice to have a guy speak out these thoughts and emotions Ive been having over this
I can't even imagine how much damage this is doing to her mentally, short, medium and long term, even if she physically comes out of this unscathed. Mentally I feel like shes really risking depression, trauma and the rest. The kind of men happy to get involved in something like this are not the kind of men most women would want to be intimate with, let alone hundreds of them in a queue to do this.
As a 22 year old woman, couldn’t agree with you more cam. This is not empowering. She is brainwashed. This breaks my heart. NO woman in her right mind wants this. Ever.
literally a form of self harm, poor girl. I wish she had a proper support network to try talk her out of this :(
This needs to make people reflect on people that are trafficked. People are being raped 20 times a day. She chose this, consensually, and it was so damaging.
I feel so bad for her, truly.... I feel like she purposefully says negative/self deprecating things bout herself so that it doesn't hurt as much when someone does call her those horrible things. Like she's putting on this mask, this false bravado so that she's not showing weakness, she needs better people around her bc these ones are not looking out for her mental or physical wellbeing. I hope she's able to get some sort of help or therapy bc this is coming off as self harm/self punishment
Absolutely agree
The team are just using her as a cash 🐮 no wonder she hid her face. As she should! Woman should help lift each other not the opposite
It made me feel so sad. I don’t think she was prepared for the mental impact of what she set out to do. I really hope she gets help and reflects before trying these challenges again.
Thank you so much for continuiously pointing out that what the men did here was wrong throughout this video. Pretty much everyone who has spoken about this has exclusively focused on Lily being a bad person or whatever, but they haven't said anything about the men involved. These men essentially signed up to use and abuse a woman and it's so messed up.
Someone on tiktok pointed out that this can be a way of self harm and i think thats so true but so sad.unfortunately the cycle of young men becoming addicted to stuff like OF or corn is going to continue for a while, genuinely corn rotted men are one of my worse fears as a woman
When the assistant talked about networking with these guys I immediately thought about seungri, like using a woman's body to make connections and shi like it's gross.
Yeah that was a really horrific comment
As ever, Cam, this was a wonderfully empathetic, well-considered and nuanced video. Thank you for proving that men can respectfully and empathetically discuss issues within OF and p*rn, as I know many men shy away from commenting out of fear of sounding like they're sl*t shaming (when really, if you don't see the women as sl*ts, or any other derogatory, demeaning, dehumanising view - then you're not going to "accidentally" share that view). I am loving these types of videos thay have a more serious theme to them - your content is going from strength to strength and I love to see it!
Personally, I think Lily could well have been so overcome with negative emotions after the 100 guys that she is now pressing on to try to escape those types of thoughts, reasoning that if she stays busy planning and "training", she can drown those negative thoughts out.
How the heck did she stand up, let alone walk at the end of this? 😮
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Thanks for this take Cam, spot on. My heart breaks; I want to give her a cuddle and tell her this isn't the way to feel self-confident - it's the way to feel like an object.
She has very low self worth and thats sad. Theres a damaged little girl in there just wanting to be loved.
Shame fuels addiction this is why she felt so horrible but then in 3 days shes announcing 1000 guys. She needs help, and the people around her are enabling this abuse
Instead of trying to do this with 1000 men, she should really go to intensive therapy 🙏
I 100% agree with you. I feel bad for her and people who keep pointing out that it was her decision above anything else just lack empathy in my eyes. The amount of hate she's getting is just upsetting.
@Radtrad1221 she can't take their place, that's not how it works I'm afraid. Also if you pity someone you do have sympathy/empathy/compassion, you're already better than those haters.
@Radtrad1221 oh no I wouldn't call you a hater honestly. I see your point. I'm just seeing her as a deeply damaged woman. And to that I g8ve my love. As for the victim card I'm not entirely sure she meant to cry in this documentary and call for people's compassion. I don't think this is good for her business at all so to speak.
It's her own doin! She could of stopped it at any point but didn't and now wants more? Yea let's all feel sorry for her 🙄🥱
@@Jenna27.91 like I said zero empathy
@annarennie why would I have empathy?? She put herself in that position and is more than willing to do it again! She's "training" remember, ya know for 1000 guys! Nothing to feel sorry for! 🤷🏼♀️ She wants to put herself in that position why is anyone feelin sorry for her?!! Makes no sense! No point having a go at me because of the facts hahahaha!
This video is so good I'm literally speechless, bloody love Cam, what a guy 😭✨
Also - I don't think you're profiting off a woman sleeping with 100 guys, you're profiting off educating people, and I think that's well deserved 👏
Cam, I absolutely adore watching your content and this is such an important video, thank you for covering it. The porn industry is a big talking point rn and it is so important to educate people about the dangers both to the individuals providing the content and those consuming it, especially young men.
It’s so amazing to hear a man explain this. I’ve heard similar views from women podcasters but it’s so refreshing to hear this from a man. Thank you.
Cam , you're great. You've got a great attitude. I think it's great that you have respect for women. You're more mature than men who are alot older. Don't change.
I'm 36 year-old female, and i've had many discussions with my friends that when you get towards our age you gain a lot of clarity on your younger self. You can see why you made certain choices or understand what motivated your behaviour because you have hindsight and also have greatly matured; you understand the world more clearly. Lily is not able to do this yet, especially since she is in the thick of it, so I am quite concerned with what she will have to reconcile with when she gets older and looks back on this time in her life. I can almost guarantee she will feel a lot of remorse for the death of her innocence she is bearing witness to right now when she looks back on this time years from now. And not innocence as in her virginity, but the place that her inner child lives that turns dark from losing faith in her self-worth, loses faith in the sanctity of her boundaries and body, loses faith that she is loved beyond her physical appearance, and loses faith in the belief that the world is a safe place. You can never get that innocence back; we all experience that, but she is especially going through that right now.
Hugh Hefner former gf Kendra said, "why did I feel the need to have sex with a 90 yr old man when I was 19?" When she is 40 it is gonna be weird to reconcile especially if she has a child
Wow. Brilliant video, you're setting a very good example on here! Well done.
This indicates childhood sexual abuse, exploitation and PTSD. Her team and these punters are just vile.
“That rooms gonna be haunted”😂😂😂😂
I feel sad for her though. She can never take that back.