Because the NFL, a multi-billion dollar organization with a large legal team, somehow does not know how fair use works, what it entails, and what the four factors of fair use are, a part of this video had to be removed (the first 15 seconds) due to copyright. The footage in question was talking about how some rookie quarterbacks walk into better situations than others, and showed five-second footage of Justin Herbert and Dak Prescott as rookies. All four fair use factors were met, including the purpose of the work, the nature of the work, the amount used, and the effect on the potential market. However, despite this, despite a detailed explanation to the NFL on how copyright law works, and despite citing Supreme Court cases as precedent, the NFL, not knowing how copyright law works (or knowing how and disregarding it completely to bully content creators), rejected the claim. If you are wondering why the video starts off rather abruptly, that's why; it is completely out of my control. As someone who is currently in law school and has extensively studied copyright law, I am considering further legal action should the NFL continue to do this.
Go get em big guy! I had no idea the NFL, or any sports league for that matter, could be used completely as a full fledged integral element of a major motion picture, without permission from leagues, so as long as they’re not misrepresented in the film.
This is the classic example of a decent and green QB going to an awful, shitty team......as rookies, the best QBs ever would have also failed under those conditions.
The Vikings and the Rams were pretty good during that time and for a couple of years so were the Packers and 49ers. The Cowboys and the Skins had to get through them in the playoffs, which they did, proving they were pretty darn good teams regardless.
Me: Come on! Say it! You know you want to! Say the line! Say the line! 5:45 JaguarGator: ...Which is worse than if you did nothing but spike the ball into the ground on every single play. Me! Yes!! There it is!!
I think you undersold his USFL career. That first USFL season in particular, he directed one of the better offenses for Tampa Bay, coached by his QB predecessor, Steve Spurrier. They were fun to watch.
Totally undersold..Reaves had 4,000 yards passing, one of only 4 QBs in Professional football history at the time to pass for 4,000 yards. And the Bandits offense was built on the passing game.
Spurrier did more punting than throwing in the NFL. Unfortunately for his career, he was the backup for a solid QB in Brody for many years. My guess is he learned a lot on the sidelines.
@UCZ5MwasmtVKVcbTAj35prAQ God, Culverhouse was a complete moron as an owner, and a reprobate in life. He torpedoed the team for 15 years, and he cheated on his wife and wouldn't give her ownership of the team. This is a direct quote from Joy Culverhouse: "I'd like to pull him out of the grave and shoot him with every bullet I could get".
The most gross thing about all of this is that Khayat went on to still have a job in the NFL for 20 YEARS!!!!!!!!!!! For God's sake, what kind of nude pics did he have to stay on when he flatly refused to not only call plays, but not offer any coaching when asked about it by his PLAYERS! BTW, he primarliy was a DLINE coach for teams for the most part that sucked. Great content Jaguar!!!
Just because he was a lousy head coach - and he most definitely was that - doesn't mean he was a bad position coach or even a bad coordinator. For a more recent example, just look at Norv Turner. He kept getting head coaching chances because he was such a good coordinator. His offenses were boring but they worked. That man could flat-out coordinate an offense. He proved he had no business ever going higher up the ladder than that, but that doesn't mean he wasn't great at the appropriate level.
@@deansch6089 There's a principle in the business/ human resources arena that identifies certain companies that promote some poor soul to the point of failure.....so your observations about Turner are very truthful. Some guys ( like me ) don't want the stress and headache of holding the high position. Life is so much better when you follow someone you trust and believe in.
Khayat reminds me a little of the Oilers' disastrous two years under Bud Peterson. Like Khayat, a basically nice guy who the players had some respect for, but who really didn't seem capable of being a good NFL Head Coach, and who never had a good game plan prepared.
We had a run of bad and cheap owners. Thank God for Lurie. He play 185 million for the team In 94. Now they are worth close to 5 Billion Dollars. Lmao Pretty Good deal.
@@johnny1963ifydude we’re in the same division as Jerry Jones. Lurie doesn’t seem too hands on outside of Head Coach hires and maybe the decisions on Wentz, which was make or break for the franchise.
Once again, and I can't stress this enough,... your stories are incredible. How I never heard of these stories tells me you do amazing research. The detail you put into all of your videos is so impressive. Keep up the great work. This is an awesome channel
@@nasetvideos It is unbelievable.....what's the poor kid supposed to think when he can't turn to his own coach? Many people think confidence can quickly be regained after a stressful time.....but from my experience it can take a long time to believe in yourself again. Poor Reaves.....I kind of wished he'd gone on to some notable success.
@George Giuliani i had to laugh when you wrote "how i never heard of these stories tells me you do amazing research." lol that tells you nothing of the sort. it just tells you that you dont know the nfl as much as you think you do.
A lot of Reaves’ passes as a Gator went to Carlos Alvarez (45), “The Cuban Comet”. The All-American WR sustained some knee injuries and never made it in the pros, but he looked like a sure bet in 1969.
Makes me question as to why he was drafted 14th. Even if he was great besides that. It's still a red flag. Either that was a weak QBs draft class which I doubt or I'm just dumb. Guy would be seen as a RAW prospect
@@Bebegamer The only QB that did well in that class was Brian Sipe, who the Browns took in Round 13. Reaves still did better than Jerry Tagge, who the Packers took 3 picks earlier and threw 3 TDs and 17 INTs in his career.
His stats are surprisingly decent for a rookie calling his own plays with no idea what was going on. John Reaves 48% 1508 7TD 12 Int fellow rookie Dan Pastorini 48% 7TD 12int Bobby Douglass was 37% 1246 9TD 12 int
Great point. One of the only intelligent, informed comments on this video. Your insightful comment illustrates the point that the situation a rookie QB, or any QB, encounters has a lot to do with their chances for success.
"..like a game he had against the Houston Oilers where he didn't even know he was starting 15 minutes before kickoff, and then threw two TD passes in a winning effort..." Me: "well THAT sounds like prime JG9 material..." JG9: "Side note, if you wanna learn more about that game, click the card in the upper right corner." Me: "Of course."
The biggest cost with Reaves was the desperation trade for Gabriel, whose career was winding down. It costed them two first rounders,. a third rounder, and Harold Jackson, in his prime.
Most QBs called their own plays back, furthermore, he lit it up for 3 years in the USFL with Spurrier as his HC, Gary Anderson & Greg Boone at RB, Eric Truvillion WR, and "Scoop" Gillespie at TE (plus a cast of others of course).
So if you think Reaves was a good play caller, why do you think he failed so badly for Philly? I mean, based on what you said you'd think he'd have some success managing his offense...?
Great video, well researched. I never cared for the Eagles, but those 1960s and 1970s helmets were great - almost sinister. Also I appreciate that you're covering a subject most NFL fans ( and even players ) never think about: when a promising young athlete is set up for failure out of pure ignorance on the part of the coaches and front office....unbelievable. I know Shula let Marino call his own plays early on, as did Noll with Bradshaw, but both coaches knew those QBs were ready. This poor guy Reaves deserved so much better....confidence isn't something that comes back easily once destroyed.
reaves had a had a good chance to be a great quarterback for the Bears in the early 70s but this was still the Halas era and he just didn't think much of quarterbacks and so didn't prioritize them. Very sad on what Reaves and the bears could have done if things were different.
@@shanehowell8169 4,000 yards passing is a lot more than “ok”. While leading a team with the lowest payroll, picked to be last in their division to a winning record.
Actually John Reaves had great success in the USFL; he was one of the first 4 QBs in Professional football history to pass for over 4,000 yards in a season. AND he left Florida with every significant SEC career passing record; plus he finished his college career as the All time leader in NCAA passing yards.
@@mgb4692 the tez is the biggest reason to watch it. It would be equal parts unwatchable offense and great defense. Dont pretend you wouldn't watch it. Remember the year when the hawks had the 3rd ranked offense and 8th ranked defense yet missed the playoffs cause they had the worst special teams unit ever? I do. Then I remember 43-8
Thoroughly enjoy the trivia and stories that you present. 1 critique though is that sometimes there is an echo/reverb to your audio and when you speak fast (as you sometimes do) it is very difficult to understand you. I realize equipment is expensive, so if you could just slow down a tad it would correct t the issue. Again though really really enjoy they way you present the stories!
Late to the thread. Been an Eagles fan going back to Pete Liske. One thing left out was Reaves life long battle with drugs and alcohol. It had started in high school according to some sources. The Bears sent him to rehab. That may have to do with his frenetic play. I guess back then the NFL kept his problems and arrests under wraps.
Which is a big reason why they begin to modify the rules in 1978 to favor the passing game. Then more restrictions were added to the defense in 1995 (such as emphasis on calling defensive holds committed against receivers). That's why since 1995 there have been very few truly punishing defenses. The league just won't allow it.
It's also not a coincidence that quarterbacks whose career begin after 1995 have had much longer careers than older generations did. Brady, Manning, Breed etc. were all protected.
College teams didn't do much to develop quarterbacks for the pro game in that era. A good number of college teams ran the wishbone, which needed more of a runner than a passer at QB. A decent number of NFL starting QBs came into the league in the 1950's.
@7:10 ? Carmichael looks piiised off; he was probably alone in the end zone. And Reaves threw into coverage for a pick.... Harold's reaction there speaks volumes as he normally wasn't a demonstrative kind of player. 🚬😎
It’s amazing how much better quarterback coaching is today than it was even 30 years ago. Now a top college quarterback can play only one year as a starter in college and become a very good to great starting quarterback in the NFL within two years. Back in the day quarterbacks and all college football players stayed at their universities for four or five years. And most quarterbacks that were drafted into the NFL did not become successful starters until their fourth or fifth seasons.
10:40: I was a 13 year old living in Philadelphia in 1972 and remember that team. Khayat was thought to be a Messiah after 1971 as this was the first time in years the team was halfway decent. I did not know until now of all this behind the scenes stuff that led him and Reaves to become busts. I don't know if I agree that Reaves as the biggest bust of all time. After the Eagles lost out on the OJ Simpson 1969 draft Sweepstakes by having the audacity to win their last two games in 1968 to finish with the second worst record in the league, they drafted Heisman runner up Leroy Keyes with the third pick in the draft. He started at running back in 1970, was benched in 1971, was moved to DEFENSE in 1972 and was out of the league after 1973. His supposed ceiling at draft time was much higher than Reaves and everyone expected him to be OJ Lite.
My nomination for worst rookie development season would've been Deshone Kizer and the 2017 Browns. As a second round pick, he was clearly not ready to be a starter. He needed time to adapt to the pro game. So Cleveland sends him out there to start 15 games for a 0-16 team. That permanently scarred him, as he's been barely hanging on in the league as a journeyman backup. But hearing about John Reaves and the 1972 Eagles might've been worse.
Scouting players from college to the NFL has come a long way since the 1970's. John Reaves clearly had the physical talent to succeed in the pros, having arm strength that surpassed many successful NFL starters of his era. But I still find it hard to believe the Eagles apparently had no idea Reaves couldn't read NFL defenses, which back then were much simpler to diagnose than they are today. On top of that, Philadelphia put the poor guy out there to fail. Video shows that Reaves was under heavy pressure from opposing pass rushers even on the few plays that worked. Sadly, John Reaves was set up to fail.
Interesting thing about Reeves and Arrington the both had daughters who had A connection to college football. Jill Arrington was a sideline reporter for many college games. Layla Reeves married lame kiffin.
How many times were you in charge of quarterback development. Once he found out that he would call his own plays, he should have started getting educated. Remember, Staubach never called his own plays. And in Cincinnati, Paul Brown called all the plays with messenger guards..
Reaves should have kept his college jersey number (7). Don’t know why he switched to (6) - nobody on the team had that number and it wasn’t a retired #.
saying the Bears had 7 net passing yards and -6 net passing yards doesn't reflect on the quarterback. that reflects on the offensive line and possibly receivers. hence, the Bears took an offensive lineman. everyone seems to overlook one simple fact about drafts and building a team in general. if the so called "experts" in the media knew what they were talking about, they would be getting job offers from sports teams.
John Reaves is mostly remembered for the "Florida Flop," where the defense deliberately let an opponent score late in the 4th quarter of a blowout game so he could set some NCAA record.
No actually John Reaves is known for rewriting the SEC record book for passing stats in his first game, 59-34 blowout of Playboy’s preseason Number 1 Houston, fist game of the 1969 season; finishing his college career as the SEC leader in Passing Yardage and TDS; and for finishing his career as the All time NCAA leader in passing yardage; and for being one of the first 4 Professional QBs to pass for over 4,000 yards with the Tampa Bay Bandits
To be fair, Shaw was in a worse situation than Reaves. The Bills teams of the first years of the 70s were dreadful; one of the worst teams of the time.
Although asking a quarterback, and especially a rookie quarterback, to call his own plays seems, to say the least, unusual today, back in 1972 it wasn't. You had to know the culture. It was rough, it was tough and hard to bluff. Players were expected to play with broken bones, as Les Josephson did with a broken jaw. Most coaches didn't call the plays, with Tom Landry being one of the lone standouts. And if you were a quarterback in the NFL and couldn't call your own plays, you were labeled as weak. Pete McCulley, you've talked about him before, expected his green quarterback for the 49ers to do the same in 1977. They had never called plays before and when they asked for some help, they were given ONE play. Not even three for the series. Not one every down, but ONE play for the entire series! How does that help? It was only with Eli Manning and the Giants that the culture in the NFL changed. First, by that time, most if not all coaches were calling the plays, and when Eli said to the coaching staff: "Why can we run the plays I feel comfortable with?" did they listen. The result: 2 Super Bowl victories over the Patriots. It was a different era and what seems so reasonable now, was virtually unheard of then.
Reaves was pretty good later on and lasted a long time. Until 1987. He was pretty good in the USFL. The 72 Eagles were brutal scoring 10 points a game and giving up 25. They held on to a 21-0 lead to beat the Chiefs 21-20. Wonder what would have happened if the 2 point Conversion was allowed then. Oh and OT did not come into play until 1974 in the Regular season. They also beat the Oilers by a point what if again with the 2 Point conversion. They tied the almost Equally hapless Cardinals. The Oilers went 1-13 in Pastorini's 2nd yr. Pastorini rebounded, so did Plunkett when put in a decent situation to succeed. If you have a good defense which these teams didn't obviously you have a chance to win some games. Teams have won Superbowls despite their QB. The key is Run the ball. Which helps the play action game. A lot of Quarterbacks you can look at their early Careers and say this guy was a bust. Then they get put in a better situation and win some games. The poster child for this would be Vinnie Testarverde. I am reading Jim Plunkett's book and he won 2 Super Bowls with the Raiders yet not in the Hall of fame. But you put up some of his Numbers which HOF Quarterbacks and they match up Favorably just like they did with Ken Stabler before he got in. The Bob Waterfields, Bobby Laynes, Joe Namath's, George Blanda There are guys who played in the league much worse then John Reaves. Bobby Garrett #1 pick could not call plays traded to hapless Green Bay. Mike Phipps. Bobby Douglass could run that was about it. David Woodley had a good team around him but he got pulled quite a bit for Don Strock so they started calling the Dolphins QB Wood-Strock. Seriously Don Strock is getting jobbed out of some wins because whoever starts the game no matter what the outcome win, lose or tie gets the Credit. Gary Huff, I have been trying to put together a worst QB list for years but it is difficult to do because some of the really bad ones did not play much. I was trying to base the list on at least 50 pass plays Pass attempts or Sacks. J.J. Jones probably makes the list but he even got a Topps Football Card. So he is beloved for some reason by me. Then you have Rusty Lisch. The guy wasn't very good at Notre Dame. How does he get to the NFL. A Lock for the list of Worst QBs is Deshone Kizer. How do you go 0-16 by passing on Deshawn Watson, Patrick Mahomes, Then that same year 2017 you have Nathan Peterman it scares me that he is still in the league. Then you have to wonder sometimes if it is the QB who is bad or the system they are playing in that is bad. You have these coaches who abandon the run even when its working and they have the lead. Putrid Pat Shurmur is a Fine example of this. All I know is the 1979 Saints finished 8-8 then in 1980 they won one game. Why they #1 stopped running the Ball #2 Traded Chuck Muncie away. as well as they threw the ball way too much. There are way too many pass happy Pricks calling plays in Todays NFL. Some keep getting jobs even though they have not learned their lessons and do the same thing over and over and over again.
Back in the day when you sank or swam. Granted not a good move but it was a different game. No receivers in the WB helmets. Each play would depend on feedback from your teammates.
@@daviddechamplain5718 agree but there were not many teams that offered classes on reading defenses. A lot of teams in the 60s were still reading the defense bases off of the linebackers. Even some of the great teams like the Packers didn’t really care what you did on defense. Lombardi was more running a few plays that you knew exactly what to do and when to do it. There was a lot more of the QBs running the game. For example the receiver would come back and say I finally have the safety playing up on me. I can break one deep when you need it. At least that is what I was getting at. You might disagree. Lord knows I’ve been wrong plenty in my life.
(I am going to avoid links as that causes errors) (Unintentionally, I am discussing three videos next to each other in the history of the nfl playlist) 1. Most qbs cannot call their own plays. However even Elway tried this, and it did not work initially. 2. Reaves definitely had the worst development in NFL history, but in terms of the single worst qb development moment, that might be in 1992 with Browning Nagle. 3. The strangest development for a rookie happened in 1992, when after Elway got injured, the Broncos used both the rookie backup quarterbacks, switching qbs on every single play.
@@stevenbauer4799 For some reason, Dan Reeves thought Elway was in a decline and decided to draft Maddox as his successor. Elway had the last laugh as he outlasted Reeves and Maddox in Denver.
@@stevenbauer4799 Maddox was the XFL MVP and was good enough to get him the starting job the following year with the Steelers. So it wasn't all bad for Tommy.
That is nothing new. Only a few qb's get to call their own plays like peyton for instance. Some it takes time. Remember Noll called a lot the plays for bradshaw. And Elway was constantly going to the bronco sideline to get plays even a a dozen + year vet. And poor reaves rip. Didn't he have a coke problem as well? And sat as kenny anderson's back up in cincy for a few years after eagles stop.
@@CTubeMan Not all the time. Noll was known to pull him to the sideline to calls some plays for him. 'Married ..with children' did a bit on that when bradshaw guested on it saying to marcy 'I called my own plays. that was staubach'. And noll and bradshaw didn't have the best relationship.
@@stevenbauer4799 To this day Terry plays the less-than smart good ol' boy. But he's a lot smarter than people think. In the 70s, Hollywood Henderson said Bradshaw was so dumb, he couldn't spell "cat" without spotting im the c and a. Yet for the most part, Bradshaw called his own plays, while Henderson's QB, Roger Staubach, had his plays called by Tom Landry.
@@tygrkhat4087 That was not too hard to do. 'hand off franco, hand off franco. go deep swann. go deep stallworth'. And an occasional flea flicker. And staubach had a way more complex offense to run in dallas with different variations in it. That is the difference between the two. Noll liked to paly it close to the vest. Get the lead, run the ball, and let his great d take over. Landry and boys were different. The aura of america's team in the '70's was their stars particularly on offense and scoring lotsa points as well. Cowboys didn't didn't mind rolling up the score and scoring a lot of points. It went with their gig at the time. And even if bradshaw called all or most of his plays you can sure as #k bet he knew those plays had noll's approval cause bradshaw was a gunslinger. No telling what he would have done with free reign without being checked by noll/offensive coaches.
Or maybe he was a shitty overrated college QB, which was common for a lot of overblown QBs from that era, especially QBs from the Southeastern Conference.
The Eagles like to treat their QB like garbage and you look they had some good young QBs and they usually Philly beat up and need to be built back up like Randell did better as a vike Wentz was having MVP season before injury he was a QB with a team that didn't want him now a Washington player he may surprise us all other then z Jaws and they treated a QB who led them to the superbowl like crap Reggie White worst locker room Philly
His nickname should have bean "SUPER MAN hahahahahahahahahahahaha remember goerge reeve and Christopher Reaves played the character now you would have had John Reaves boy somebody should have thought of this.
1. You said the season finale of 1984 between the Jets and Buccaneers is on your bucket list of videos to make. That was the game in which Bucs Coach John McKay let the Jets score a late touchdown with the Bucs leading 41-7. This was to try to get Running Back James Wilder the single season scrimmage yards record. Reaves became the all-time NCAA passing yards leader in a similar way, with Florida defenders lying down as Miami scored a late touchdown with the score 45-8. Reaves got the record on the next possession. 2. This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made a video about a quarterback for whom the Eagles gave up a lot in 1971, only to see that quarterback flee to Canada after meeting Owner Leonard Tose. 3. Watch at 5:35, then watch ruclips.net/video/KKchi4KWUus/видео.html
Because the NFL, a multi-billion dollar organization with a large legal team, somehow does not know how fair use works, what it entails, and what the four factors of fair use are, a part of this video had to be removed (the first 15 seconds) due to copyright. The footage in question was talking about how some rookie quarterbacks walk into better situations than others, and showed five-second footage of Justin Herbert and Dak Prescott as rookies. All four fair use factors were met, including the purpose of the work, the nature of the work, the amount used, and the effect on the potential market. However, despite this, despite a detailed explanation to the NFL on how copyright law works, and despite citing Supreme Court cases as precedent, the NFL, not knowing how copyright law works (or knowing how and disregarding it completely to bully content creators), rejected the claim. If you are wondering why the video starts off rather abruptly, that's why; it is completely out of my control. As someone who is currently in law school and has extensively studied copyright law, I am considering further legal action should the NFL continue to do this.
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Go get em big guy! I had no idea the NFL, or any sports league for that matter, could be used completely as a full fledged integral element of a major motion picture, without permission from leagues, so as long as they’re not misrepresented in the film.
"Which is worse than if you spike the ball into the ground on every single play". Wouldn't be a JaguarGator9 video without that!
Almost like interceptions are more detrimental then incopletions ! /sarcasm
Yes, it's like Kramer bursting into Jerry's apartment on "Seinfeld." Happens every time.
This is the classic example of a decent and green QB going to an awful, shitty team......as rookies, the best QBs ever would have also failed under those conditions.
Brady played for some of the best coaches ever, especially head and OL.
The eagles and giants were brutal in the early 70s this explains why the cowboys were so dominant but so were the Redskins.
Dick Vermeil and Bill Parcells changed all that
The Vikings and the Rams were pretty good during that time and for a couple of years so were the Packers and 49ers. The Cowboys and the Skins had to get through them in the playoffs, which they did, proving they were pretty darn good teams regardless.
Me: Come on! Say it! You know you want to! Say the line! Say the line!
5:45
JaguarGator: ...Which is worse than if you did nothing but spike the ball into the ground on every single play.
Me! Yes!! There it is!!
It wouldn't be a JG9 video without it LOL
Drink!
Its all part of the context
I think you undersold his USFL career. That first USFL season in particular, he directed one of the better offenses for Tampa Bay, coached by his QB predecessor, Steve Spurrier. They were fun to watch.
Bandit Ball!
Totally undersold..Reaves had 4,000 yards passing, one of only 4 QBs in Professional football history at the time to pass for 4,000 yards. And the Bandits offense was built on the passing game.
Spurrier did more punting than throwing in the NFL. Unfortunately for his career, he was the backup for a solid QB in Brody for many years. My guess is he learned a lot on the sidelines.
The Bandits might have been more popular than the Bucs were at the time. This was during the Bucs' prolonged malaise.
@UCZ5MwasmtVKVcbTAj35prAQ God, Culverhouse was a complete moron as an owner, and a reprobate in life. He torpedoed the team for 15 years, and he cheated on his wife and wouldn't give her ownership of the team. This is a direct quote from Joy Culverhouse: "I'd like to pull him out of the grave and shoot him with every bullet I could get".
The most gross thing about all of this is that Khayat went on to still have a job in the NFL for 20 YEARS!!!!!!!!!!! For God's sake, what kind of nude pics did he have to stay on when he flatly refused to not only call plays, but not offer any coaching when asked about it by his PLAYERS! BTW, he primarliy was a DLINE coach for teams for the most part that sucked. Great content Jaguar!!!
Just because he was a lousy head coach - and he most definitely was that - doesn't mean he was a bad position coach or even a bad coordinator. For a more recent example, just look at Norv Turner. He kept getting head coaching chances because he was such a good coordinator. His offenses were boring but they worked. That man could flat-out coordinate an offense. He proved he had no business ever going higher up the ladder than that, but that doesn't mean he wasn't great at the appropriate level.
@@deansch6089 There's a principle in the business/ human resources arena that identifies certain companies that promote some poor soul to the point of failure.....so your observations about Turner are very truthful.
Some guys ( like me ) don't want the stress and headache of holding the high position. Life is so much better when you follow someone you trust and believe in.
Khayat reminds me a little of the Oilers' disastrous two years under Bud Peterson. Like Khayat, a basically nice guy who the players had some respect for, but who really didn't seem capable of being a good NFL Head Coach, and who never had a good game plan prepared.
@@67marlins81 Exactly. "The Peter Principle." You are promote to your level of incompetence.
@@deansch6089 Thanks, I'd forgotten the correct name.
Like the little sad music that goes with these highlights or lowlights so fitting.
They really did him dirty. I'm an Eagles fan and that owner was a story all by himself.
Tore cared more about his trucking company the his football team.
@@johnny1963ify so glad we got an owner that at least cares about the team in Lurie
@@platinumdiamond7 Yeah but I think he sticks is his nose too much into the football side of things.
We had a run of bad and cheap owners. Thank God for Lurie.
He play 185 million for the team In 94. Now they are worth close to 5 Billion Dollars. Lmao
Pretty Good deal.
@@johnny1963ifydude we’re in the same division as Jerry Jones. Lurie doesn’t seem too hands on outside of Head Coach hires and maybe the decisions on Wentz, which was make or break for the franchise.
Once again, and I can't stress this enough,... your stories are incredible. How I never heard of these stories tells me you do amazing research. The detail you put into all of your videos is so impressive. Keep up the great work. This is an awesome channel
And this may have been the laziest coaching I've ever heard of...asking Reaves to call his own plays was beyond absurd
@@nasetvideos right? Lol he must have thought his job was really secure if he literally didn't do anything to help his rookie QB.
@@nasetvideos It is unbelievable.....what's the poor kid supposed to think when he can't turn to his own coach?
Many people think confidence can quickly be regained after a stressful time.....but from my experience it can take a long time to believe in yourself again. Poor Reaves.....I kind of wished he'd gone on to some notable success.
@George Giuliani i had to laugh when you wrote "how i never heard of these stories tells me you do amazing research." lol
that tells you nothing of the sort. it just tells you that you dont know the nfl as much as you think you do.
@@steveswangler6373 thanks, a$%hole
A lot of Reaves’ passes as a Gator went to Carlos Alvarez (45), “The Cuban Comet”. The All-American WR sustained some knee injuries and never made it in the pros, but he looked like a sure bet in 1969.
Reaves also has the record for most Interceptions in a college game with 9 vs. Auburn in 1969
Nice
Makes me question as to why he was drafted 14th. Even if he was great besides that. It's still a red flag. Either that was a weak QBs draft class which I doubt or I'm just dumb. Guy would be seen as a RAW prospect
I’m kind of surprised nobody’s thrown 10.
Did the coach leave him on the game just to humiliate him?
@@Bebegamer The only QB that did well in that class was Brian Sipe, who the Browns took in Round 13. Reaves still did better than Jerry Tagge, who the Packers took 3 picks earlier and threw 3 TDs and 17 INTs in his career.
The Eagles were extremely dysfunctional after 1960 until Vermeil arrived…it seems like history is repeating itself
After they won their Superbowl.
Sadly yes
There are a lot of similarities.
It is too bad John Reaves didn't play for Dan Reeves. Dan would have been happy to call all the plays.
Unfortunately for John, Dan Reeves was still playing for the Cowboys in 1972.
His stats are surprisingly decent for a rookie calling his own plays with no idea what was going on.
John Reaves 48% 1508 7TD 12 Int
fellow rookie Dan Pastorini 48% 7TD 12int
Bobby Douglass was 37% 1246 9TD 12 int
Great point. One of the only intelligent, informed comments on this video. Your insightful comment illustrates the point that the situation a rookie QB, or any QB, encounters has a lot to do with their chances for success.
"..like a game he had against the Houston Oilers where he didn't even know he was starting 15 minutes before kickoff, and then threw two TD passes in a winning effort..."
Me: "well THAT sounds like prime JG9 material..."
JG9: "Side note, if you wanna learn more about that game, click the card in the upper right corner."
Me: "Of course."
This video is STILL BETTER than SPIKING the BALL into the GROUND on EVERY single OFFENSIVE play!!!!!
John Reeves has been in many tv commercials when they show football games in TV. It’s old Tampa Bay Bandits games from the USFL.
Great Eagles uniforms, not-so-great Eagles team.
The biggest cost with Reaves was the desperation trade for Gabriel, whose career was winding down. It costed them two first rounders,. a third rounder, and Harold Jackson, in his prime.
Most QBs called their own plays back, furthermore, he lit it up for 3 years in the USFL with Spurrier as his HC, Gary Anderson & Greg Boone at RB, Eric Truvillion WR, and "Scoop" Gillespie at TE (plus a cast of others of course).
So if you think Reaves was a good play caller, why do you think he failed so badly for Philly?
I mean, based on what you said you'd think he'd have some success managing his offense...?
i guarantee you with steve spurrier as his coach he dam sure wasnt calling his own plays
@@67marlins81 because he couldnt read defenses and adjust his offense to it
@@phillywawadrinker I guess you're right.
Great video, well researched. I never cared for the Eagles, but those 1960s and 1970s helmets were great - almost sinister.
Also I appreciate that you're covering a subject most NFL fans ( and even players ) never think about: when a promising young athlete is set up for failure out of pure ignorance on the part of the coaches and front office....unbelievable.
I know Shula let Marino call his own plays early on, as did Noll with Bradshaw, but both coaches knew those QBs were ready. This poor guy Reaves deserved so much better....confidence isn't something that comes back easily once destroyed.
reaves had a had a good chance to be a great quarterback for the Bears in the early 70s but this was still the Halas era and he just didn't think much of quarterbacks and so didn't prioritize them. Very sad on what Reaves and the bears could have done if things were different.
I saw Reeves play when he played for the Tampa Bay Bandits of the USFL.
Me, too. He wasn't half bad.
He was ok with the Bandits. He also played with the replacement Bucs during the 1987 NFL player strike.
@@shanehowell8169 4,000 yards passing is a lot more than “ok”. While leading a team with the lowest payroll, picked to be last in their division to a winning record.
@@shanehowell8169 I wouldn't say he really played with the Bucs in '87. He threw like 16 passes.
@@rogerwilliams5366 true
Thanks for the old Gator highlights!
I'm glad I found this channel. I love football history and these videos and the stories are great.
6:33 Archie Manning doing some fancy gyrations!
Love the uniforms but they were brutal i always think of later Roman Gabriel in these get ups.
Actually John Reaves had great success in the USFL; he was one of the first 4 QBs in Professional football history to pass for over 4,000 yards in a season. AND he left Florida with every significant SEC career passing record; plus he finished his college career as the All time leader in NCAA passing yards.
Another video on the Philadelphia Eagles? I stole the football from my neighbor's kid and started spiking it into the ground on every play.
This makes me think of the 1992 Seahawks and how bad that offense was. You should do a video on that crapfest
No, that shouldn't be allowed at Gitmo
RIP Tez, totally carrying that team on his back
@@mgb4692 the tez is the biggest reason to watch it. It would be equal parts unwatchable offense and great defense. Dont pretend you wouldn't watch it. Remember the year when the hawks had the 3rd ranked offense and 8th ranked defense yet missed the playoffs cause they had the worst special teams unit ever? I do. Then I remember 43-8
Florida QBs flopping in the NFL. It's a Gators tradition. (Spurrier, Reaves, Matthews, Wuerffel, Palmer, Leak, Tebow, Driskel)
You missed Grossman
@@ALTAIR2 Grossman at least flashed in the NFL when he lead the Bears to the Super Bowl.
Maybe the worst of all, Gary Huff.
@@Wallyworld30 he had a great defense carrying him and I believe his only weapons were Mushin Mohammed, Thomas Jones Devin Hester and Cedric Benson
I don’t think Palmer was bad or a bust
Thoroughly enjoy the trivia and stories that you present. 1 critique though is that sometimes there is an echo/reverb to your audio and when you speak fast (as you sometimes do) it is very difficult to understand you. I realize equipment is expensive, so if you could just slow down a tad it would correct t the issue. Again though really really enjoy they way you present the stories!
Late to the thread. Been an Eagles fan going back to Pete Liske. One thing left out was Reaves life long battle with drugs and alcohol. It had started in high school according to some sources. The Bears sent him to rehab. That may have to do with his frenetic play. I guess back then the NFL kept his problems and arrests under wraps.
I don't know why but I love those old white eagles helmuts.
They keep you hostage in the vault of NFL films, don't they?
Do you need us to come & get you?
It's OK, you can tell me.
The code word is Facenda. 😉
My dad used to always say, “If you laugh the world laughs with you, if you cry…..I’ll give you something to cry about you little bastard!!”
Great video! That 72 Eagles team was amazingly bad. I don't know how they won 2 games.
Yes, they beat the Chiefs by a point 21-20 and the Oilers by a point 18-17.
The '72 Eagles team was the worst Eagles team ever.
If he had play calling responsibilities, then it's no one's fault but his own that he did not get himself that 39.6 passed rating.
6:47 When you've eaten way too much cheese...lol
Cheesesteaks! This is philly 😋
It seems that there were plenty of really bad starting quarterbacks in the 1970’s.
Which is a big reason why they begin to modify the rules in 1978 to favor the passing game. Then more restrictions were added to the defense in 1995 (such as emphasis on calling defensive holds committed against receivers). That's why since 1995 there have been very few truly punishing defenses. The league just won't allow it.
It's also not a coincidence that quarterbacks whose career begin after 1995 have had much longer careers than older generations did. Brady, Manning, Breed etc. were all protected.
College teams didn't do much to develop quarterbacks for the pro game in that era. A good number of college teams ran the wishbone, which needed more of a runner than a passer at QB. A decent number of NFL starting QBs came into the league in the 1950's.
back then QB called their own signals - and Khayat likely didn't have the skill being a lineman to help him
Many OC’s have been OL.....at that time running the ball was the norm, so OL coaches ran the show. Still should.
@7:10 ? Carmichael looks piiised off; he was probably alone in the end zone. And Reaves threw into coverage for a pick.... Harold's reaction there speaks volumes as he normally wasn't a demonstrative kind of player.
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It’s amazing how much better quarterback coaching is today than it was even 30 years ago. Now a top college quarterback can play only one year as a starter in college and become a very good to great starting quarterback in the NFL within two years. Back in the day quarterbacks and all college football players stayed at their universities for four or five years. And most quarterbacks that were drafted into the NFL did not become successful starters until their fourth or fifth seasons.
10:40: I was a 13 year old living in Philadelphia in 1972 and remember that team. Khayat was thought to be a Messiah after 1971 as this was the first time in years the team was halfway decent. I did not know until now of all this behind the scenes stuff that led him and Reaves to become busts. I don't know if I agree that Reaves as the biggest bust of all time. After the Eagles lost out on the OJ Simpson 1969 draft Sweepstakes by having the audacity to win their last two games in 1968 to finish with the second worst record in the league, they drafted Heisman runner up Leroy Keyes with the third pick in the draft. He started at running back in 1970, was benched in 1971, was moved to DEFENSE in 1972 and was out of the league after 1973. His supposed ceiling at draft time was much higher than Reaves and everyone expected him to be OJ Lite.
The Eagles could have drafted Joe Greene in 1968.
My nomination for worst rookie development season would've been Deshone Kizer and the 2017 Browns. As a second round pick, he was clearly not ready to be a starter. He needed time to adapt to the pro game. So Cleveland sends him out there to start 15 games for a 0-16 team. That permanently scarred him, as he's been barely hanging on in the league as a journeyman backup.
But hearing about John Reaves and the 1972 Eagles might've been worse.
Kizer had a hard time keeping the QB job at ND. It doesn't bode well for your pro career when the upside is Matt Cassel.
Pete Retzlaff an example that great players generally don't make good general managers. My man Ozzie Newsome is obviously an exception.
Scouting players from college to the NFL has come a long way since the 1970's. John Reaves clearly had the physical talent to succeed in the pros, having arm strength that surpassed many successful NFL starters of his era. But I still find it hard to believe the Eagles apparently had no idea Reaves couldn't read NFL defenses, which back then were much simpler to diagnose than they are today. On top of that, Philadelphia put the poor guy out there to fail. Video shows that Reaves was under heavy pressure from opposing pass rushers even on the few plays that worked. Sadly, John Reaves was set up to fail.
As an Eagles fan, I knew Khayat was a bad head coach, but I had no idea it was this bad.
Love the old Eagles jerseys and helmet. The kelly green needs to return. This team has been managed poorly forever.
Interesting thing about Reeves and Arrington the both had daughters who had A connection to college football. Jill Arrington was a sideline reporter for many college games. Layla Reeves married lame kiffin.
Reaves played for Steve Spurrier and the Tampa Bay Bandits in the USFL.
Oh and its also not a wise move to draft a QB who most likely has Jimmy the Greek on Speed Dial that being Art Schlichter.
This video should be called "The Rookie Quarterback That Won TWO GAMES Without The Help Of His Coach".
He did all right with the Tampa Bay Bandits of the USFL, though. #BanditBall!
Quarterback Factory
Never saw Reaves play but obviously he had talent,some films I saw,he did some things later with the Bengals.
How many times were you in charge of quarterback development. Once he found out that he would call his own plays, he should have started getting educated. Remember, Staubach never called his own plays. And in Cincinnati, Paul Brown called all the plays with messenger guards..
Reaves should have kept his college jersey number (7). Don’t know why he switched to (6) - nobody on the team had that number and it wasn’t a retired #.
saying the Bears had 7 net passing yards and -6 net passing yards doesn't reflect on the quarterback. that reflects on the offensive line and possibly receivers. hence, the Bears took an offensive lineman.
everyone seems to overlook one simple fact about drafts and building a team in general. if the so called "experts" in the media knew what they were talking about, they would be getting job offers from sports teams.
the 2021 Jets say "hold my beer"
John Reaves is mostly remembered for the "Florida Flop," where the defense deliberately let an opponent score late in the 4th quarter of a blowout game so he could set some NCAA record.
No actually John Reaves is known for rewriting the SEC record book for passing stats in his first game, 59-34 blowout of Playboy’s preseason Number 1 Houston, fist game of the 1969 season; finishing his college career as the SEC leader in Passing Yardage and TDS; and for finishing his career as the All time NCAA leader in passing yardage; and for being one of the first 4 Professional QBs to pass for over 4,000 yards with the Tampa Bay Bandits
A similar thing happened in the NFL in 1984. Check out the article at The Athletic titled "Let them score."
Jamarcus russell disagrees with this video's title.
Poor guy got his own career screwed over and it was way out of his control.
Justin Fields and the Bears are going to give this a run for the money.
This video screams Ryan Lindley, John Skelton, and Max Hall LOL comin from a miserable St. Lou/AZ cardinals fan
That was a terrible situation,especially when you have Larry Fitzgerald to throw to,great analogy!!!
They apparently did not have offensive coordinators back then.
Maybe not in Philly but the Giants did. In 1954, they hired the NFL’s first offensive coordinator to work for Head Coach Jim Howell.
Both the big QBs in that draft were huge busts. Dennis Shaw was also terrible.
To be fair, Shaw was in a worse situation than Reaves. The Bills teams of the first years of the 70s were dreadful; one of the worst teams of the time.
Ok enter the Roman (Gabriel) army.
Although asking a quarterback, and especially a rookie quarterback, to call his own plays seems, to say the least, unusual today, back in 1972 it wasn't.
You had to know the culture. It was rough, it was tough and hard to bluff. Players were expected to play with broken bones, as Les Josephson did with a broken jaw.
Most coaches didn't call the plays, with Tom Landry being one of the lone standouts.
And if you were a quarterback in the NFL and couldn't call your own plays, you were labeled as weak.
Pete McCulley, you've talked about him before, expected his green quarterback for the 49ers to do the same in 1977.
They had never called plays before and when they asked for some help, they were given ONE play. Not even three for the series. Not one every down, but ONE play for the entire series!
How does that help?
It was only with Eli Manning and the Giants that the culture in the NFL changed. First, by that time, most if not all coaches were calling the plays, and when Eli said to the coaching staff: "Why can we run the plays I feel comfortable with?" did they listen.
The result: 2 Super Bowl victories over the Patriots.
It was a different era and what seems so reasonable now, was virtually unheard of then.
Reaves was pretty good later on and lasted a long time. Until 1987. He was pretty good in the USFL. The 72 Eagles were brutal scoring 10 points a game and giving up 25. They held on to a 21-0 lead to beat the Chiefs 21-20. Wonder what would have happened if the 2 point Conversion was allowed then. Oh and OT did not come into play until 1974 in the Regular season. They also beat the Oilers by a point what if again with the 2 Point conversion. They tied the almost Equally hapless Cardinals. The Oilers went 1-13 in Pastorini's 2nd yr. Pastorini rebounded, so did Plunkett when put in a decent situation to succeed. If you have a good defense which these teams didn't obviously you have a chance to win some games. Teams have won Superbowls despite their QB. The key is Run the ball. Which helps the play action game. A lot of Quarterbacks you can look at their early Careers and say this guy was a bust. Then they get put in a better situation and win some games. The poster child for this would be Vinnie Testarverde. I am reading Jim Plunkett's book and he won 2 Super Bowls with the Raiders yet not in the Hall of fame. But you put up some of his Numbers which HOF Quarterbacks and they match up Favorably just like they did with Ken Stabler before he got in. The Bob Waterfields, Bobby Laynes, Joe Namath's, George Blanda There are guys who played in the league much worse then John Reaves. Bobby Garrett #1 pick could not call plays traded to hapless Green Bay. Mike Phipps. Bobby Douglass could run that was about it. David Woodley had a good team around him but he got pulled quite a bit for Don Strock so they started calling the Dolphins QB Wood-Strock. Seriously Don Strock is getting jobbed out of some wins because whoever starts the game no matter what the outcome win, lose or tie gets the Credit. Gary Huff, I have been trying to put together a worst QB list for years but it is difficult to do because some of the really bad ones did not play much. I was trying to base the list on at least 50 pass plays Pass attempts or Sacks. J.J. Jones probably makes the list but he even got a Topps Football Card. So he is beloved for some reason by me. Then you have Rusty Lisch. The guy wasn't very good at Notre Dame. How does he get to the NFL. A Lock for the list of Worst QBs is Deshone Kizer. How do you go 0-16 by passing on Deshawn Watson, Patrick Mahomes, Then that same year 2017 you have Nathan Peterman it scares me that he is still in the league. Then you have to wonder sometimes if it is the QB who is bad or the system they are playing in that is bad. You have these coaches who abandon the run even when its working and they have the lead. Putrid Pat Shurmur is a Fine example of this. All I know is the 1979 Saints finished 8-8 then in 1980 they won one game. Why they #1 stopped running the Ball #2 Traded Chuck Muncie away. as well as they threw the ball way too much. There are way too many pass happy Pricks calling plays in Todays NFL. Some keep getting jobs even though they have not learned their lessons and do the same thing over and over and over again.
I would never let a rookie quarterback call his own plays until I know I can trust him.
Rookie very rarely started at quarterback in the 70's because of the offenses back then were setup for that.
Back in the day when you sank or swam. Granted not a good move but it was a different game. No receivers in the WB helmets. Each play would depend on feedback from your teammates.
Actually it was much rarer for a rookie QB to start back then.
@@daviddechamplain5718 agree but there were not many teams that offered classes on reading defenses. A lot of teams in the 60s were still reading the defense bases off of the linebackers. Even some of the great teams like the Packers didn’t really care what you did on defense. Lombardi was more running a few plays that you knew exactly what to do and when to do it. There was a lot more of the QBs running the game. For example the receiver would come back and say I finally have the safety playing up on me. I can break one deep when you need it. At least that is what I was getting at. You might disagree. Lord knows I’ve been wrong plenty in my life.
As bad as this was, RGIII's development was FAR worse.
This shows how pathetic an organization the Eagles were in the seventies. Next to the Giants they were the worst team in the NFC .
*David Carr has entered the chat*
EDIT - Ok, this is pretty bad.
the eagles traded him to the bengals. his qb coach in cincinnati? bill walsh. his biggest problem? Kenny Anderson......
(I am going to avoid links as that causes errors) (Unintentionally, I am discussing three videos next to each other in the history of the nfl playlist)
1. Most qbs cannot call their own plays. However even Elway tried this, and it did not work initially.
2. Reaves definitely had the worst development in NFL history, but in terms of the single worst qb development moment, that might be in 1992 with Browning Nagle.
3. The strangest development for a rookie happened in 1992, when after Elway got injured, the Broncos used both the rookie backup quarterbacks, switching qbs on every single play.
One was tommy maddox who broncos for some dumb reason wasted a first round pick on.
John Elway was no Jim Kelly
And neither of those backups was Frank Reich
@@stevenbauer4799 For some reason, Dan Reeves thought Elway was in a decline and decided to draft Maddox as his successor. Elway had the last laugh as he outlasted Reeves and Maddox in Denver.
@@stevenbauer4799 Maddox was the XFL MVP and was good enough to get him the starting job the following year with the Steelers. So it wasn't all bad for Tommy.
I agree 💯- kayat was negligent!
"when you're the NCAA all time leader in passing yards you have a pretty high draft stock"
Case Keenum: "we sure about that?"
Historically typical. 😤
From what I'm seeing he was just athletic but he probably wasn't too smart.
*too
@@SamBrickell to or tooooooo.
> 39.6 can be found @ 5:45
Didn't Reeves make, or rather play in a Pro Bowl game, because the game was played in Philadelphia and no other NFC qb's wanted to play?
You're probably thinking of Mike Boryla, who was recently the subject of this video: ruclips.net/video/lqX1vwRiT14/видео.html
@@orbyfan Are you trying to be another unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian? If so, we may have to fit you for an unofficial jacket!
David Carr was pretty bad in itself
He had no offense line no running backs
Your videos are great, but it takes way too long for you to get to the point of the video!
What kind of a NFL head coach?
49 Years Ago
Yeah it was! 💯
That is nothing new. Only a few qb's get to call their own plays like peyton for instance. Some it takes time. Remember Noll called a lot the plays for bradshaw. And Elway was constantly going to the bronco sideline to get plays even a a dozen + year vet. And poor reaves rip. Didn't he have a coke problem as well? And sat as kenny anderson's back up in cincy for a few years after eagles stop.
Actually Bradshaw called the plays for the Steelers.
@@CTubeMan Not all the time. Noll was known to pull him to the sideline to calls some plays for him. 'Married ..with children' did a bit on that when bradshaw guested on it saying to marcy 'I called my own plays. that was staubach'. And noll and bradshaw didn't have the best relationship.
@@stevenbauer4799 To this day Terry plays the less-than smart good ol' boy. But he's a lot smarter than people think. In the 70s, Hollywood Henderson said Bradshaw was so dumb, he couldn't spell "cat" without spotting im the c and a. Yet for the most part, Bradshaw called his own plays, while Henderson's QB, Roger Staubach, had his plays called by Tom Landry.
@@tygrkhat4087 That was not too hard to do. 'hand off franco, hand off franco. go deep swann. go deep stallworth'. And an occasional flea flicker. And staubach had a way more complex offense to run in dallas with different variations in it. That is the difference between the two. Noll liked to paly it close to the vest. Get the lead, run the ball, and let his great d take over. Landry and boys were different. The aura of america's team in the '70's was their stars particularly on offense and scoring lotsa points as well. Cowboys didn't didn't mind rolling up the score and scoring a lot of points. It went with their gig at the time. And even if bradshaw called all or most of his plays you can sure as #k bet he knew those plays had noll's approval cause bradshaw was a gunslinger. No telling what he would have done with free reign without being checked by noll/offensive coaches.
Reaves died in 2017. Lane Kiffin married his daughter.
Or maybe he was a shitty overrated college QB, which was common for a lot of overblown QBs from that era, especially QBs from the Southeastern Conference.
What is the passer rating if you spiked the ball on every single play?
39.6
those hideous helmets....no wonder he was bad. They look like huge eyebrows.
get a new line, anything over a 0 rating is better than throwing the ball into the ground every time
Interceptions are the reason. They're bad.
The 1990 Detroit Lions and Andre Ware would like a word with you.
Please try to do a video on how to Chicago Staley's stole the 1921 championship
At least Ware had Barry Sanders to hand off too, taking some of the pressure off
@@jamesable6318 The Staley Swindle. The first of Buffalo's problems with an NFL title.
The Eagles like to treat their QB like garbage and you look they had some good young QBs and they usually Philly beat up and need to be built back up like Randell did better as a vike Wentz was having MVP season before injury he was a QB with a team that didn't want him now a Washington player he may surprise us all other then z Jaws and they treated a QB who led them to the superbowl like crap Reggie White worst locker room Philly
Heath Shuler was worse...
His nickname should have bean "SUPER MAN hahahahahahahahahahahaha remember goerge reeve and Christopher Reaves played the character now you would have had John Reaves boy somebody should have thought of this.
John was cursed enough as is.
@@CTubeMan Roman to the rescue weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
1. You said the season finale of 1984 between the Jets and Buccaneers is on your bucket list of videos to make. That was the game in which Bucs Coach John McKay let the Jets score a late touchdown with the Bucs leading 41-7. This was to try to get Running Back James Wilder the single season scrimmage yards record. Reaves became the all-time NCAA passing yards leader in a similar way, with Florida defenders lying down as Miami scored a late touchdown with the score 45-8. Reaves got the record on the next possession.
2. This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made a video about a quarterback for whom the Eagles gave up a lot in 1971, only to see that quarterback flee to Canada after meeting Owner Leonard Tose.
3. Watch at 5:35, then watch ruclips.net/video/KKchi4KWUus/видео.html
Conceited much about the 'Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian' comment?
@@terencehill2320 I don’t believe so, which why I’m stunned my wife wants to widen the hallways and doorways in our house.