I have a 2018 Kia Nero hybrid and I absolutely love it. It gets me great gas mileage and I plan to run it into the ground. I did notice when I replaced the LRR tires with normal ones, the mpg did drop from my usual 55 to about 50.5. I don't like that part.
I owned a 2007 Toyota Prius. The onboard computer failed at one point and I needed a front wheel bearing had to be replaced. Those were the only 2 repairs in 12 years! I gave it to a friend who needed a car after 12 years and 150,000 miles. I love Toyota hybrids. I live in a mountainous area and the electric motor assist was terrific. Not to mention the advantage of being better for the environment. One last point: consumer reports rate hybrids as very reliable, but not plug-in hybrids. Odd, but there it is.
You make a great point discussing the hybrid specific component initial costs and maintenance. I would add interest on that higher purchase price, also LESS likelihood of a discounted new car price because hybrid cars are a popular fallback position for those seeing the issues with full EV's. Additionally, cost of gas in your region also plays a part in total savings. Lastly environmental toll of resource production and manufacturing of hybrid specific components not necessary for non-hybrid's that perform the exact same task. I don't think may people pencil it all out. They see 54MPG on the sicker and are sold.
Those of you who are saying that it is a waste because the components of a hybrid add to the weight of The vehicle compared to a non-hybrid you need to remember that all of that componentry only adds about the extra weight of an entire person. So if you really carry two people in your non-hybrid try carrying just one person and you're non-hybrid and see what that actually does for your fuel economy virtually. Nothing actual real world testing shows that weight actually plays a very small role in your fuel economy compared to many other things and yes, earlier commenters mentioned the drop in value and there are many companies out there that are just not known for reliability no matter what. The powertrain strategy is for the vehicle. The ones that are known for reliability definitely hold their value and yes both new and used. You are going to pay a markup on a hybrid not just in the initial purchase price but the insurance on it is going to be more expensive as well if only slightly more expensive. So you really need to do like this guy says and put a pencil to it based on fuel economy, the cost of gas and how much you drive every year to see if a hybrid is really worth it for you I drive my car for a living so yes, the hybrid in one of the Japanese market hybrid cars is a good idea for me and I do drive a Japanese market hybrid. It is a 2021 Toyota Prius L Eco and currently the car is averaging over and over 3,000 mi. Just over 68 mi per gallon for me and my driving conditions and style as a full-time rideshare driver giving passenger rides that is a 30 mile per gallon increase over what the exact same year of Toyota Corolla would be getting and yes I did at one point drive a Toyota Corolla for doing rideshare, giving passenger rides and found that the fuel economy of the thing was only in the low to mid 30s sometimes even in the high twenties. Depending on if I was doing a lot of sitting there waiting for passengers, I definitely find that the Priuses are definitely more cost effective when it comes to putting a lot of miles on and doing the sort of driving a rideshare driver does which ends up being a lot of start stop driving considering that 10 rides. Even 20 rides in a day is not out of the question. That means that you have at least 20 different places to 40 different places that you stop. That is a lot of starting and stopping which the hybrid systems can take advantage of and the non-hybrids just waste gas on that all together but yes in many cases it is not worth it because the extra cost of the car, the markup of the car. How much extra you pay versus the extra fuel economy you get versus how far you drive does not necessarily pan out. Not to mention that in many of the hybrid models there is a lot of work that would be able to be done by a third party shop for non-hybrids where you need to take it the manufacturer for maintenance when it is a hybrid for a lot of those things because there are things that only the manufacturer is willing to do unless it is a third party electric vehicle/hybrid vehicle specialist and then they might not perform the tasks as well as the manufacturer.
You have no electricity in your house? How long is your daily commute? You sound like a perfect candidate for an EV, unless of course you have no electricity in your house.🤔
Just like any new car, as long as you are keeping it until the warranty runs out it is fine. After the warranty runs out Hybrids are a lot more expensive to maintain and fix compared to internal combustion engines.
You didn't mention the re-sell value drop like a stone. At some point the advantage turns in disadvantage cause the combustion engine will charge the battery constantly to compensate and the fuel consumption increase is going to be obvious. Adding the extra weight of the hybrid system you do the maths.
I have had a Toyota Hybrid Prius 2010, Now have Lexus UX250h 2021 both have been good. The Lexus is a superior urban vehicle. The drive train is fantastic, Parking and moving around town is where it shines. Hybrid Toyota's have been superior to others. (the Germans brands, bad news) I do change all the filters for the battery and engine before the dealer recommended times. Lexus service intervals are like 16.000km for oil. I change myself every 10.000km.Some would say I'm silly but I can't see that long being good for the car. I do live in Canada and the weather is crap cold 6 months of the year so harsh conditions for oil.
London cab drivers swear by the prius. Nothing gives you that economy in the city and maintenance is simple but essential. V long life too. Easy 12years, usually over 15
@@ronl1633. Toyota oil change suggested at 10000 miles. Not often enough. But will get the car past warranty before oil consumption sets in. According to several videos. Oil rings will yuck up with 10000 mile oil changes. I do 5000 mile oil changes. Seems good.
The short answer to the question is: NO. What car is a hybrid car? It's two cars, a bad electric car and a bad petrol car crammed into the body of one car. If this car gives you some savings in city driving, it is no more economical than a regular petrol car during long drives on the highway. You can drive a hybrid car on the highway at 80 miles per hour. if you drive faster, you will wreck the car. You must not lift shopping bags in front of the back seat, because there are openings that cool the battery. If you intend to drive the car for more than 5 years, you have to consider significant repair costs. All the money you have saved on fuel, you will spend on repairing the car.
Gasoline engines have frequent oil changes, fuel filter changes, air filters. Newer ones have variable valve timing, direct fuel injection, overstressed from turbocharging, they have CVT transmissions, oxygen sensors, mass airflow sensors, air intake temperature sensors, catalytic converters, EVAP leaks, crankshaft position sensors.
@@psychiatry-is-eugenics Not all have turbochargers, but they all also have exhaust gas recirculation, a charcoal cannister, oil filters, one fuel pump inside the gas tank and another high-pressure fuel pump at the engine.
Hybrids are silly, the worst of both worlds, either get a full EV or stick with an ICE vehicle, don't waste your money on a hybrid. With most hybrids it will take you years to realize any savings since you have to pay extra for the hybrid drivetrain, anywhere from 2 to 8 years depending on the model you bought, how many miles you drive and the price of gasoline, to break even with the gas savings. Buying a hybrid is like getting pre-paid gas. Hybrids are one of the worst transportation ideas ever. Companies like Toyota love them and push them because it makes them a lot of money, but hybrids do basically nothing for the consumer.
I have a 2018 Kia Nero hybrid and I absolutely love it. It gets me great gas mileage and I plan to run it into the ground. I did notice when I replaced the LRR tires with normal ones, the mpg did drop from my usual 55 to about 50.5. I don't like that part.
Thanks for sharing!
I owned a 2007 Toyota Prius. The onboard computer failed at one point and I needed a front wheel bearing had to be replaced. Those were the only 2 repairs in 12 years! I gave it to a friend who needed a car after 12 years and 150,000 miles. I love Toyota hybrids.
I live in a mountainous area and the electric motor assist was terrific. Not to mention the advantage of being better for the environment.
One last point: consumer reports rate hybrids as very reliable, but not plug-in hybrids. Odd, but there it is.
This is a great story! I love hearing great experiences. Thanks for sharing.
You make a great point discussing the hybrid specific component initial costs and maintenance. I would add interest on that higher purchase price, also LESS likelihood of a discounted new car price because hybrid cars are a popular fallback position for those seeing the issues with full EV's. Additionally, cost of gas in your region also plays a part in total savings. Lastly environmental toll of resource production and manufacturing of hybrid specific components not necessary for non-hybrid's that perform the exact same task. I don't think may people pencil it all out. They see 54MPG on the sicker and are sold.
Great points yourself. Thanks for the feedback.
They save you money until you sell, or try to sell, them. Then the huge depreciation cancels out the savings in one blow.
I have a 2018 Honda Clarity PHEV, a short lived but amazing car!
Got a Ford C Max 2013 , 136000 km.Mostly drive in city = 34 miles /us gal.Had no major problem. Love this Ford😁
Awesome thats good to hear!
Those of you who are saying that it is a waste because the components of a hybrid add to the weight of The vehicle compared to a non-hybrid you need to remember that all of that componentry only adds about the extra weight of an entire person. So if you really carry two people in your non-hybrid try carrying just one person and you're non-hybrid and see what that actually does for your fuel economy virtually. Nothing actual real world testing shows that weight actually plays a very small role in your fuel economy compared to many other things and yes, earlier commenters mentioned the drop in value and there are many companies out there that are just not known for reliability no matter what. The powertrain strategy is for the vehicle. The ones that are known for reliability definitely hold their value and yes both new and used. You are going to pay a markup on a hybrid not just in the initial purchase price but the insurance on it is going to be more expensive as well if only slightly more expensive. So you really need to do like this guy says and put a pencil to it based on fuel economy, the cost of gas and how much you drive every year to see if a hybrid is really worth it for you I drive my car for a living so yes, the hybrid in one of the Japanese market hybrid cars is a good idea for me and I do drive a Japanese market hybrid. It is a 2021 Toyota Prius L Eco and currently the car is averaging over and over 3,000 mi. Just over 68 mi per gallon for me and my driving conditions and style as a full-time rideshare driver giving passenger rides that is a 30 mile per gallon increase over what the exact same year of Toyota Corolla would be getting and yes I did at one point drive a Toyota Corolla for doing rideshare, giving passenger rides and found that the fuel economy of the thing was only in the low to mid 30s sometimes even in the high twenties. Depending on if I was doing a lot of sitting there waiting for passengers, I definitely find that the Priuses are definitely more cost effective when it comes to putting a lot of miles on and doing the sort of driving a rideshare driver does which ends up being a lot of start stop driving considering that 10 rides. Even 20 rides in a day is not out of the question. That means that you have at least 20 different places to 40 different places that you stop. That is a lot of starting and stopping which the hybrid systems can take advantage of and the non-hybrids just waste gas on that all together but yes in many cases it is not worth it because the extra cost of the car, the markup of the car. How much extra you pay versus the extra fuel economy you get versus how far you drive does not necessarily pan out. Not to mention that in many of the hybrid models there is a lot of work that would be able to be done by a third party shop for non-hybrids where you need to take it the manufacturer for maintenance when it is a hybrid for a lot of those things because there are things that only the manufacturer is willing to do unless it is a third party electric vehicle/hybrid vehicle specialist and then they might not perform the tasks as well as the manufacturer.
Such great points. Thanks for sharing your experience .
I live in the desert and commute into the mountains for my job. No batteries for me!
You have no electricity in your house? How long is your daily commute? You sound like a perfect candidate for an EV, unless of course you have no electricity in your house.🤔
I have bought a Toyota Hybrid 2024 model
Hybrid Cross
Sweet!
I have a POS Niro with 115K miles, never changed a bolt on it.
Doubt if it’s worth it for me , wondering about insurance .
But regenerative braking would make driving interesting
Just like any new car, as long as you are keeping it until the warranty runs out it is fine. After the warranty runs out Hybrids are a lot more expensive to maintain and fix compared to internal combustion engines.
Good video. Subbed.
Thanks!
You didn't mention the re-sell value drop like a stone. At some point the advantage turns in disadvantage cause the combustion engine will charge the battery constantly to compensate and the fuel consumption increase is going to be obvious. Adding the extra weight of the hybrid system you do the maths.
Good points. It is kinda gimmicky.
I have had a Toyota Hybrid Prius 2010, Now have Lexus UX250h 2021 both have been good. The Lexus is a superior urban vehicle. The drive train is fantastic, Parking and moving around town is where it shines. Hybrid Toyota's have been superior to others. (the Germans brands, bad news) I do change all the filters for the battery and engine before the dealer recommended times. Lexus service intervals are like 16.000km for oil. I change myself every 10.000km.Some would say I'm silly but I can't see that long being good for the car.
I do live in Canada and the weather is crap cold 6 months of the year so harsh conditions for oil.
Thats great! Appreciate your input.
I really like my Toyota and Ford hybrids. Electric car goodness without the electric car drawbacks. They are just nicer. Good fuel economy too.
London cab drivers swear by the prius. Nothing gives you that economy in the city and maintenance is simple but essential. V long life too. Easy 12years, usually over 15
@@ronl1633. Toyota oil change suggested at 10000 miles.
Not often enough. But will get the car past warranty before oil consumption sets in. According to several videos.
Oil rings will yuck up with 10000 mile oil changes.
I do 5000 mile oil changes. Seems good.
@@dannybryant6873 10.000 km, that's 6200 miles for oil changes.
The short answer to the question is: NO. What car is a hybrid car? It's two cars, a bad electric car and a bad petrol car crammed into the body of one car. If this car gives you some savings in city driving, it is no more economical than a regular petrol car during long drives on the highway. You can drive a hybrid car on the highway at 80 miles per hour. if you drive faster, you will wreck the car. You must not lift shopping bags in front of the back seat, because there are openings that cool the battery. If you intend to drive the car for more than 5 years, you have to consider significant repair costs. All the money you have saved on fuel, you will spend on repairing the car.
Gasoline engines have frequent oil changes, fuel filter changes, air filters. Newer ones have variable valve timing, direct fuel injection, overstressed from turbocharging, they have CVT transmissions, oxygen sensors, mass airflow sensors, air intake temperature sensors, catalytic converters, EVAP leaks, crankshaft position sensors.
And hybrids have most of that and more ?
@@psychiatry-is-eugenics Not all have turbochargers, but they all also have exhaust gas recirculation, a charcoal cannister, oil filters, one fuel pump inside the gas tank and another high-pressure fuel pump at the engine.
RAV4 ICE vs Hybrid. 30 vs 40 mpg (hypothetical) Gas at $3.25/gal, over 100k miles the hybrid saves $2,707 in gas, but MSRP is $3,000 more.
Interesting comparison. The hybrid will eventually become the savings leader, until it is time to replace the hybrid battery.
If I had to choose a hybrid or an EV, I would buy a hybrid. But for long term reliability I would just buy a fuel efficient ICE.
Hybrid (Toyota/Lexus) more reliable than conventional ICE
Hybrids are silly, the worst of both worlds, either get a full EV or stick with an ICE vehicle, don't waste your money on a hybrid. With most hybrids it will take you years to realize any savings since you have to pay extra for the hybrid drivetrain, anywhere from 2 to 8 years depending on the model you bought, how many miles you drive and the price of gasoline, to break even with the gas savings. Buying a hybrid is like getting pre-paid gas. Hybrids are one of the worst transportation ideas ever. Companies like Toyota love them and push them because it makes them a lot of money, but hybrids do basically nothing for the consumer.
Lol, bless your heart…
@@jsanders299 no, bless your heart, go sink your money on hybrids 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣