I remember seeing my Japanese friends off from Naha going to the Philippines for Christmas. Mom had let her 8 yr old son pack his carry on bag. And he had packed it with all his favorite fireworks! The look of shock and dis belief on the security guard's face as he ran the kid's bag through the scanner was priceless. He rolled it back and forth through the scanner a few times, motioned his co worker over, and they both looked at it as they rolled it back and forth, then they got their boss who actually had them run it out the back and asked who packed the bag. The kiddo fessed up, and opened the bag as asked. He'd packed a swimsuit, one change of clothes, and the rest was all various fireworks. Fortunately, no one got arrested and everyone made their flight.
This story reminds me of one from the oil field service industry from the late 1990's. There was a downhole tool referred to as a "bomb" because it was designed to drop through water with a lip on the top that would seat into the downhole tool, It would be anything from 2" to 6" in diameter depending on the tools being used. While approaching the departures desk one crew member asked the other one if he had packed the "bombs". This resulted in a lot of official attention and a missed flight. As result this device is now referred to as a "down--hole opening tool"
An engineer mate has a set of time saving tools he made for marking out the hole positions on the mounting faces of a casting his workshop produces. They're just a load of different sized steel plates with a couple of locating dowels in each, and multiple bolts in strategic places that have all been turned to a point, then hardened. It means that he just has to mill 2 acurate reference holes per face, drop the plate on, and give it a handful of whacks to mark out and centre punch about 15 less critical mounting holes in one quick process. They're not like any commercially available tool, so there wasn't an obvious name for them, so he just calls them what they are. It's always amusing to hear about the reaction when he tells an apprentice for the first time to "Go over to Steve, and tell him you need some face punches". :D
@@Reman1975 In nuclear engineering the term CRUD has a specific meaning. One of the first nuclear reactors was built in Chalk River, Ontario. During the first few months of operation some particulate matter was found in the primary cooling system. This was called Chalk River Unidentified Deposits or CRUD. Of course it didn't take long for CRUD to be identified but the term is still used.
Another one you have to be careful with is the word "gun". We have antistatic blow-off guns that use compressed air to clean surfaces of dust and debris. They're can be generally shaped like a gun, but it's obvious they're not a firearm. I was traveling with a sample once and had to be careful how I referred to it, I think I used the word "device" instead of our industry standard word "gun".
@@crusinscamp There's a LOT of things that could use that term...air gun, paint sprayer gun, nail gun, staple gun...and when you're working a specific project its usually not needed to define the whole thing - if you're planning to go paint something "hand me the gun" would kinda imply the paint spray gun because context. But I could see if you're going somewhere with someone you work with but around others who don't know what you're talking about would freak out.
Until the 1970's, if a stewardess was late, she'd call in a bomb threat to delay her flight, so she wouldn't miss work. Investigations getting more sophisticated with phone traces, etc, stopped this practice.
@@sparky6086 that seems like an urban legend. For the simple reason that that stewardess would still be late. Therefore they would still get in trouble for being late.
And then there was the guy running into the Home Depot bathroom and as he ran past a worker said, "I'm about to blow this place up"... meaning "I have serious diarrhea". The worker panicked and called 911, evacuated the store. A perimeter was set up around the building, bomb squad and everything, etc. All because a guy had to poop.
This reminds me of something that happened some years ago at Wichita Municipal Airport. A friend's dad was a counter agent trying to help people after a flight was cancelled. A man came up to the counter throwing his weight around and demanding a seat immediately. Typical 'Do you know who I am?' and 'I should be served first.' Finally he said something like "Would I get a seat if I said I had a bomb?" My friend's dad went "Aha!" and then called for security. He said it was a very satisfying moment.
My late grandmother was named Barbara Davis. You wouldn't happen to be the ghostly apparition of a 106-year old woman who collects cookie jars by any chance?
I'm guessing the description of the man's behavior is a bit over the top; likely more to that story. Even if as stated, I think your friend's dad is equally a jerk. I loathe when people use their positions as weapons for their own ego addictions. He could have been just as satisfied by saying, "No, but it could get you arrested, now please wait your turn."
Your fathers correct response, when asked: "do you know who I am?", would be to put a message over the PA telling everyone that the person he was dealing with appeared to have Alzheimer's and didn't know who he was, and would someone come and collect him.
After planes started flying after September 11th I was on a flight from LAX to BWI. After going through security, everyone was quite somber since flights had only re-started 4-5 days prior. Some clown said to his friend in line in a loud voice, "Be sure they don't find the bomb in your bag." Well that closed that gate, and out of no place there were about 6 guys putting them on the floor to be drug off to that "mystery" room with no windows...
Just FYI the word "drug" is a noun referring to a narcotic or medicinal substance and not the past tense of "drag". The word you're looking for is "dragged
@@LoydChampion Actually, that's not grammar; that's orthography! I'd appreciate if someone teaches me something. Ignorance can be easily mended. Conceit and bad sense of humour can't!
@@hrvojebartulovic7870 I can teach you something right now. Some people realize life is too short to give a damn if they are using the precisely correct tense of a word. They would rather spend their time enjoying life and not caring about orthology or grammar or going in comment sections and pretending to be editor in chief of the internet.
What amazes me is the fact that he thought he can get away with it. I don't think that jail time is a punishment but forbidding to fly with any airline would be. Great video Petter.
What makes you believe he thought he could get away with it? This was an impulsive act of teenage ignorance and stupidity. I doubt there was much 'thinking' involved.
@@Chris-hf2slSome regain the ability to think quicker than others. Most by 30, some never. As for flight bans, I think 10 years should be the guideline. Long enough to really hamper future career and holiday plans. Word would get around.
I don't know if you already talk about it, but there was an incident last winter in a Sunwing flight heading to Mexico from Montreal (YUL). It was a chartered flight and the passengers literally stared a party, getting drunk and breaking several passenger flight rule. The cabin crew lost control of the crowd and they got so scared, the hide in the bathroom for the rest of the flight. Several of theses passengers got arrested when back in Canada and faced justice. That would be interesting if you could talk about this one.
Traveling with work colleagues one time, we were discussing updates to the customer copy of the Bill Of Materials (BOM) for a machine we were going to commission. My buddies kept saying "BOM" until I asked them please, PLEASE call it Bill Of Materials while we're on the plane!
In Australia, we have the "Bureau of Meteorology", which is a federal centralised place for reliable weather info here. Issue is, everyone calls it by it's acronym, BOM... e.g. it is normal to hear "have you seen the BOM warning?"
Well said, what might initially seem like “harmless” jokes in the context of air travel are actually taken very seriously - and rightly so, by the pilots, crew, fellow passengers, aviation authorities etc. my advice, just relax, relax, be mindful of the situation and boundaries and just enjoy your journey and arrive happy. Love mentour pilot , such an awesome channel 👍
In "our" youth days there was no youtube, no "social"media and so on, so no one except people in the direct proximity was interested in the pranks. You had a good laugh and that was it. If you did something really stupid, you got some comments for 3-4 days in school, a week later no one remembered this anylonger or simply didn't care. At the moment people have nothing useful to do (apart from getting triggered and offended of complete trivialities) so they get bored and want to push their youtube channel with 300 subscribers, that is were some extremely stupid or extreme pranks have their origin...
@@deineroehre Ya i really feel for the youth of today. Everything they say and do is recorded forever basically. Any mistake they made will be broadcasted and pulled up at any time to humiliate them whenever someone feels like it. No wonder anxiety and depression is rampant among teens
His parents shouldn't have paid the bail though they should have let him stay in jail. Otherwise it's just 'mon & dad will take care of it' and they never learn
@@IzzyOnTheMove I think I would rather have stayed in jail rather than face my Dad if I were in his shoes. Dad was a long fuse, big boom guy and that would definitely have set him off.
I was hoping you'd mention this. I don't like pranks as a rule. We never know how a prank endangers another person's wellbeing or even life. Thank you very much!
Their are funny harmless pranks, and then their is straight up criminal acts that endanger people. Hope this kid gets his ass kicked so he learns his lesson.
I mean, there are benign pranks that are just funny and maybe a bit embarrassing, and there are nasty pranks that are dangerous or have grave consequences.
@@petrairene Pranks are fine *if* you know that the other party consents to it. You can play pranks on family, friends, colleagues... If the other person appreciates being pranked then by all means, prank them! It stops being funny once you play pranks on strangers (without asking), or do things that might endanger others.
My dad was in Panama in the 80s with the National Guard on some training exercise. When they came back, they had to go through customs. Being military, the US Customs folks would (usually) grab one bag from the group, search it and then wave the group through. This trip was no different. They searched one bag on the tarmac (NG flew into KIND and disembarked on a ramp, no jet bridge). As the Customs officer searched the bag and waved the group through, one of dad's joes said, "Thank God they didn't find that blow in my bag." Sooooooooo the Customs folks pulled everybody off the bus they were boarding, dumped everyone's bags and searched every bag. Took forever. Needless to say that young joe had a very, very bad day.....and he was not well received by his unit afterwards
Whenever i was flying as a kid, in the queue to to the security my dad always told me, "The chance of having two bombs on the same flight is almost zero, and therefor i have one with me".
Can you imagine what that guy must have felt when he put 2 and 2 together and understood that the fighters and the authorities were there because of his joke? I would have closed myself in the airplane bathroom hoping they would forget about me...
@@jaymzx0 he probably still thought it was all very amusing until the moment he was put in the back of a police car and carted off to a Spanish prison.
One thing worse than a real bomb threat is a prank one. You spend the rest of the day wondering, what did I miss ? Worse still they breed complacency, right up to the time a real one goes bang.
The worst outcome might be actual use of deadly force like we saw on swatting "jokes" in the past. But this one doesn't look like it's far behind these streamer swatting in terms of outcome and not at all behind in terms of possible outcome. I'm just glad that the aviation industry in general is that professional and does not act headless on such incidents.
I think putting people in real danger of getting shot in their own home far, far exceeds some delays and costs. Neither is good, but one is significantly worse.
It's all about training. Police officers that respond to Swatting calls have way worse training and a much lower threshold to use deadly force. Just think about how much an F18 pilot would need to know about when and how much force is warranted in what situation. The training these guys go trough is no joke. That's the difference between normal "street cops" with some guns and highly trained military personnel.
@@Hans-gb4mv even if it was, nothing would've happened. Again: these pilots in the F18s are highly trained. It doesn't matter what nationality they are; all special forces are held to an extremely high standard. You don't get to intercept a passengers jet unless you know 150% what you're doing. These guys are special forces not street cops with 2 weeks of "training" lol
I'm reminded of a couple of university stories. The one from my time at university was similar to this: a student called in with a bomb threat, supposedly hoping to get a midterm test cancelled. Whole campus got put on lockdown and students were stuck in their lecture hall buildings for hours. My dad's story, however, is more interesting. Back in his day, chemistry labs didn't have set procedures handed down from on high, part of the point of the lab was learning how to take something abstract like some chemical equations and reactivity levels and such and develop a procedure for actually doing that as a practical experiment. Students were, similarly, allowed to access the chemical storeroom and get what they needed according to their procedure. I forget what the lab experiment was supposed to be, but one student developed their procedure based on the process of adding nitrates to toluene. So she grabbed the necessary chemicals, made a solution of toluene and water and then proceeded to subject it to the nitration process. (I'm being vague here in part because I don't know what the procedure is). She got to the first stage: mononitrotoluene. The teaching assistant came by, said her solution looked a little off, and asked if she was sure about her procedure. She was, and was given permission to continue. Second stage: dinitrotoluene. TA comes back, at this point the solution looks drastically different from anyone else's, tells her to stop what she's doing and reads the procedure she has written down. He pales. See....the nitration of toluene is the process of making TNT: trinitrotoluene. She's gotten it two thirds of the way there. And since she's just adding nitrate to the solution, there's probably at least some of it that's already TNT. TNT's relatively stable in the forms that we typically use it - it was a big step up over nitroglycerine in terms of not going off when you don't want it to go off. But it's also something you don't just want in solution in a beaker being handled by a undergrad chemistry student who thinks she's doing a different experiment and has no idea that she's making explosives. So....they evacuated the whole chem building, called in the bomb squad from the local police detatchment, who *carefully* removed the beaker of DNT and disposed of it safely. That one wasn't a prank, but it's one of the stories from my dad's time in university that makes me think "and you survived all of this how, exactly?" (Easily the most dramatic, another is his bike's front wheel bending and throwing him over the handlebars into traffic - he managed to turn that into a roll, came to his feet running and got back to the side of the road. Somehow.)
@@Teh_Random_Canadian I...don't know. lol It was a relatively advanced chem lab, they were supposed to be adding nitrate to *something* iirc, it just wasn't supposed to be frigging _toluene!_
I had a high school chemistry lesson where we were taught about nitration of benzene rings, TNT was mentioned, and then we were set two experiments in the same lesson, one of which was a nitration and the other involved methylbenzene (the modern name for toluene). We joked. The teacher suddenly got super serious. Supposedly one guy tried it anyway but since none of us managed to get nitration - even single nitration - to work... no harm done.
Not a prank, but a case that caused even more passenger fright: I was returning from Beirut in the early nineties, right after the civil war quieted down, and with a plane blown up a couple of years ago still embedded in everyone's memories. After all the checks, someone told us that we (me + 2), were not allowed to leave the country due to some unexpected paperwork. The problem was that our luggage was already on the plane. Instead of checking labels or getting us to help in some form, the airport chose to do the following. They placed all luggage in a long line on the ground next to the aeroplane (just as in this video), and then got every passenger out of the plane, walk along the line and point at their own luggage. Then they had to board the plane. The luggages were mixed up randomly, and the passengers had to do the same process all over again. Nobody told them why they had to do this. I was watching from a window and saw everyone pale and frightened, as they were expecting the worst. (See above historical background.) Luggage nobody pointed at, was considered ours and returned. (One luggage was lost even this way.) This was not an actual threat, but what they had put through all those passengers was terrible.
Having worked security at Gatwick in the past. Nothing new. Passengers at search making 'Jokes' . Then being bewlidered at the total sense of humour of failuer, a hard time with the Police, and often being shown off the airport and told Don't Come back, Anytime.
I do really, *really* long for the times before the aviation industry got neurotic about terrorism. The good old days when security people weren't running the show. This incident is just way out of all proportion. EDIT: removed a needless insult towards security people, sorry about that :( EDIT2: no, bomb threads are not a joke, that's obvious, please stop telling me that
@@ValentineC137 Interesting, I tried to post an answer but it disappeared... Anyway, I wasn't really referring to jokes about terrorism - they can be an actual problem, if people panic in congested areas - more to stuff like being able to discern what is actually a threat and what is not. Often, the rules seem completely arbitrary, more like security theatre than anything that actually increases the security and safety in any measurable way.
Many years ago - in the pre-TSA days, there was an incident at Logan Airport where a person tried taking a novelty Wile E Coyote alarm clock (with fake dynamite sticks) through security in their carry on. The State Police were not amused, but the local media got a chuckle out of the story.
@@twentyrothmans7308 If the Coyote were handling it. ACME products, when properly assembled and correctly used by a competent individual will not malfunction.
I had something similar when I was driving coaches a few years ago. I had a school group on board coming back from France to the UK after 4 days touring the WW1 battlefields and we were coming back through customs when one lad joked about having drugs hidden on him. We were already pushed for time to get on the ferry because of the queues and we ended up having the coach completely unloaded, all of us searched, sniffer dogs brought on board and we missed two ferry departures. Nothing was found but because of the delay, I had run out of duty hours and had to be put up in a hotel overnight, the kids ended up being 5 hours late back home after my company had to scramble to get a replacement driver out to carry on the trip. As you can imagine, that incurred lots of extra cost
This does not compare to airline safety. If attacks on airlines happen, deaths are not uncommon. A few pills or whatnot slipping through the border crossing would not be fatal. Lastly an actual terrorist is much more likely to make his crime known than an actual drug smuggler. It you do a terror attack, but everybody thinks it was an accident you have failed as a terrorist. If you're smuggling drugs and nobody notices, great for you!
I'm from Mahón, Menorca and the truth is that I didn't find out what happened until I saw the video. ✈Very good video, Peter, thanks for always keeping us informed.👌 Greetings from Mahón, Menorca.👋🏻
Reminds me of a short story I read in a book called "The Hollywood Walk of Shame" about the actor David Niven and movie produce Mike Todd. In 1956, Niven was leaving New York for London for some on location shooting for "Around the World in 80 Days". Before leaving, Todd asked Niven to bring some of his personal items for him. At the airport, Niven, as a joke, wired a transatlantic cable to Todd saying "Have suits, cigars, and radios. Can't for the life of me find your heroin." When Niven arrived in London, both him and Todd were detained and questioned about suspected drug dealings.
When it comes to aviation, jokes are fine until they threaten safety. Kelsey from 74 Gear (check him out, great channel)talks about some mild pranks he or other pilots have pulled. Safety is number one, the priority, and almost no measure can be called extreme.
Kelsey did a crossover with Mentor a few years ago. It’s worth finding the video. Each spoke about the planes they fly. ruclips.net/video/VZCjRo01AkY/видео.html
Petter and Kelsey have made a few collaboration videos. Once they met in person for a video and wore their pilot dress shirts. In true cockpit ranking fashion, Petter sat on the left (viewer's right) with his four bars shoulder things, and Kelsey on the right (viewer's left) with his 3 bar shoulder things.
I suggest no prank in a critical field like aviation or bulk electric power (worked in both over a 48 year span) is harmless. At the very least it distracts workers and breaks the sense of predictability. Both flaws open cracks for trouble to leak in.
@@sallykristinevarne Petter said on his 1 million Livestream that he doesn't know why Kelsey/74 gear (think I'm spelling his name right apologies if not) went silent on him and he's tried to reach out, got nothing, and left it there but open to communication/collaboration again. Afaik Kelsey hasn't said anything. Idk what happened, watch and love both channels, but ball is in Kelsey's court to explain or not at this point.
I prefer this office , than your recording studio. 😁 I miss that time when you was recording next to your dogs and your Mentour theme from Joe Perkins.
There is no cure for stupidity. Petter, thank you for the hard work you put into your videos and excellent content. I enjoy watching both your channels.
Not guilty. It’s all very strange. His message was to friends in an encrypted private chat group with the friends with him on the flight. No one could answer how authorities even got the message as they aren’t supposed to be able to. No information on how they became aware of it. Spanish judge said since it was a private message and a supposed joke to his friends , that he wasn’t guilty of knowingly causing public distress. The fact uk intelligence didn’t get involved in the trial or give any information means they wanted nothing to do with it. They are screening things they aren’t supposed to be able to do. So no fine not guilty. Interesting
This sort of thing disgusts me! I love a good joke, but aviation security is nothing to joke about. I remember the first time I ever flew, from my hometown in rural Australia to Sydney, there was a sign at the check-in desk regarding prohibited items that finished saying “we take jokes seriously”. That has never left my mind whenever I’ve flown.
Until the 1970's, if a stewardess was late, she'd call in a bomb threat to delay her flight, so she wouldn't miss work. Investigations getting more sophisticated with phone traces, etc, stopped this practice.
I don't understand what triggers people to do things like that... It's super rare that some idiot will run into a crowded area and yell fire! Shooter! Etc and then claim it was a joke, but people will do it on airlines... This isn't even the first time.
Patxi! Yes! Telling all of us that we had better listen to what Dad is saying, and then reminding us of what is most important in this world. Really good to see him again.
Two things: 1)Your dog is clearly enjoying the scritchles 😉 2) The luggage inspection reminds me if a trip home to the Netherlands in the 70s. Terrorists had just taken a train in Beilen, but it was still early days of security technology. So when we landed & got to the terminal end of the passenger bridge, right in front of the doorway were 6 tables with partitions in between. Alternating tables had two men or two women, one in front and one behind. There were two guards at the doorway who let us out one by one to an available matching table. At the table, our carry on baggage was thoroughly search by the person behind the table, and we were frisked by the person in front of the table. It took quite a while to deplane.
This is completely nuts. On a par with the American sex offender list. Like, he made a stupid mistake that an 18-year-old is prone to make; the authorities blew it out of all proportion; and there's a completely out-of-proportion extra-judicial punishment added to the madness. EDIT: I seem to have myself written a badly-thought-out comment in a social media, judging from all the responses below. I'm sorry for that. So I'm leaving the original comment there, and trying to expand my point here: 1) I do think the authorities made a correct call in taking this seriously; of course they have to err on the side of caution; 2) I do think there should be consequences - he did cause a horrible experience for the flight crew, the passenger, and the other people involved, and also time and money was lost; I'm just shocked about the lynching mentality I see in many of the comments ("his life will be ruined and this is how it should be", paraphrasing) and also I do still think that you have to consider the maturity of the perpetrator when meting out the consequences (teenagers will make stupid mistakes); 3) I have a problem with all kinds of lists where people end up that constitute a punishment upon a punishment - it can make one's life really hard for a very long time, and appeal processes can be nonexistent or arbitrary, and mistakes do happen in the courts, and people do mature out of pranks like these and people do also change.
@@jannepeltonen2036 This is a really stupid and big mistake considering that bombs already brought down airliners (air india or pan am per example), I4d ay a harsh punishment is needed in this case.
@@jannepeltonen2036 And the Left strikes AGAIN! How in the WORLD can you possibly believe that the authorities "blew it out of all proportion"? Are you serious? The PUNK is what should have been blown out...!
Great to listen to your coverage of this incident. Welcome the young man to the adult world, where your actions both verbal and physical have consequences. The actions of the authorities may seem harsh, but turn this around and if the authorities knew about the tweet or whatever and did nothing.......
These are sad times to live in. I was forced to teach my preschoolers on thier first flights to not use certain terms or make certain jokes. I definitely felt sad but kids got it well. I wish every parent should educate thier kids a thing or two about the reality that we live in.
Back in 1970/71 I was working for PanAm at Heathrow. On an incoming flight half, way across the Atlantic, a couple of young guys decided it would be fun to announce that they had bombs in their bags. They soon changed their stories when they realised that they shouldn’t have said that but the harm was done and the crew didn’t know for sure what to believe. In those days things were done differently and it was eventually decided that the plane would land as normal, the offenders would be arrested by the cops and the bags would be screened by police and airline staff before they went on to the terminal’s carousels, looking for the relevant baggage tag numbers belonging to the offenders so that the bags could be inspected. One was quickly located but the other wasn’t showing up. There were a number of people checking these tags and I decided I wanted no part of that so stayed firmly inside the baggage claim area assisting passengers as usual. Then, to my horror, the door from airside into the baggage hall opened and one of the loaders walked in with a suitcase cradled in his arms. He spotted me in uniform and walked straight towards me until he was about a metre away when he said, “Is this what you’re all looking for?” and literally threw the bag in the air towards me. I had to instantly decide whether to run or catch it. I caught it like my life depended on it and it was indeed the missing bag so I very gingerly took it back outside the the police. That was about 54 years ago and it is a moment I will never forget.
In the early 90s my boss told us about something stupid he did years earlier. He realized he was going to be late for his flight so he stopped at a payphone and called in an anonymous bomb threat to delay his flight. My boss saw nothing wrong this. He made his flight and that was all he cared about.
Back in the 80's when life was simpler and safer, you could walk with a friend or relative through the airport to see them off. I took my mother to the boarding gate to say goodbye, as we passed through the metal detector, I set it off. My mother turned and said "maybe it's your gun", I was a police officer but was not carrying a weapon. I was quickly surrounded and it was quickly sorted out. Safety in aircraft is a very important matter, you joke around, you pay the price.
It wasn't simpler nor safer. Not for everybody. I’m from Romania, a communist country back then under the Ceausescu dictatorship. And I remember watching the news in the 80's and 90's and heard of terrorist atacks from IRA or ETA and others and as a child I couldn't understand why. Come to think, I still don't understand terrorist attacks...
That’s interesting. In Uk, you can walk up to the point before security checks (where you do need to scan boarding pass at those smart gates) however in India you cant even enter the airport building without a plane ticket
When I was a kid, 8-10, and in an airport for the first time I saw notices: “Do not mention hijacking” I briefly protested “but what if you had a friend named ‘Jack’ that you wanted to say hi to!?” Briefly, was put in my place by my parents!
One of the dumbest pranks with fatal consequences was the apparent prank Ozzie Osborne‘s tour bus driver pulled in 1982. The bus driver had an expired pilots license. While on tour and stopped in Florida, he took a Beechcraft airplane out of a hanger, without permission. He took a couple of passengers on a joyride. He was „buzzing“ the tour bus. One of the passengers was Ozzie‘s 25 year old guitar player Randy Rhoads, who also was one of the founders of Quiet Riot. The plane ended up clipping the tour bus, and crashed into a building, killing the 2 passengers and the pilot.
Amazing video👍. I am a teacher on secondary school and I will definitely play this video to all my teenage students. Number 1 life lesson that each of them must get.
Unfortunately kids now these days look at this as views and potential fame instead of the bad consequences. If they want to really get him they need to put in his ruling that he will not be allowed to use this on his social media platforms or to profit from it.
At their age, they can't even comprehend what a real bomb threat is. They were born after 9/11. They don't know about the hijackings of the 80's. Lockerbie isn't on their radar. It isn't 'real' to them in any meaningful way. Older adults have a different frame of reference than these young adults do.
@@indycustommade3568: Aditya Verma posted this on Snapchat, thinking it's funny: "I'm going to blow this plane up, I'm a Taliban." I believe he posted this to his group of friends, and didn't make it public. FYI, I don't use Snapchat.
The potential problem I see with these harsh reactions of authorities is that can be easily abused to ruin someone's life. All one needs to do is hack one of someone's social network accounts and make a threatening post in the right moment and ruin that person's life.
Like the watch dogs game? It's possible. Well any law can be abused not just in the airport. Avsec won't stop acting against anything behave, sound, look, smell, feel like terrorism wether they're a victim or a perpetrator. Safety is number one.
It sounds so obvoius but I think it would be worth spelling out why this is treated so seriously. I have heard so many people say "oh couldn't they see it was a joke?"... but, when a plane is in the air NO degree of unesessary risk can be taken. Making such a spectacular example of this person should make others realise It can not be joked about. Simply think of a different joke..
@@jannepeltonen2036 I dont think that kid was that bright if he thought of making a joke about terrorism and bringing bombs to a plane and exploding it, and if i had a kid that did do that he will got what he deserved to be honest, sometimes you have to let your kids especialy when they have around 18 years the, dumb age of people, do stupid stuff and realize that was not realy a good idea. I said sometimes ok theres stuff that is plain stupid and can get you killed. Me and my parents did something like that to my brother, is not even close to what that guy did, it was just to prove the point that sometimes we need to let them do dumb stuff do find out it is dumb, for what we did, is just something minor, my brother wanted to go to his Internship with a bicycle instead of bus, we did not let him do it for all of the months he was there because its dangerouns and is tiring much better to use a bus even if you dont like them, well in the final day we let him do it, result he come back home and said never will do it again because he was so tired after work and then ride a bike it was dumb to do it and much prefer a bus, again this is something minor but is to show the point i was trying to make.
The way to point out why they must take the threat as real is to ask what would happen if the people in charge assumed it was a joke and were wrong. It would end them. They have to take it seriously purely from a job security standpoint. Being wrong with a false positive isn't going to end their career. Being wrong with a false negative is.
@@jannepeltonen2036 I do feel sorry for him as an individual because it was probably an impulsive immature joke that I'm sure he regrets now. Most of us if we're honest have said things in life we regret. My point was that airline security must be taken seriously and be seen to be taken seriously. I did not mean to sound judgemental. Peace and love.
I just flew 5 hours WITH MY CAT. After a ferry ride, 4 hour train ride and having to be hours early at the airport. Can you imagine if we (and especially my cat, who had been in the carrier for over 12 hours then) had had to go through this??? People with young children, disabled, elderly, tired etc. Missed connections, work... 😡😡😡 How inconsiderate of everybody else. I hope he gets jailed.
You hope he gets jailed over costing some people 2 hours of their time? He’s a dumb kid who made a mistake, he had no idea it would affect anybody else.
A few years ago a group of people got stuck and threatened by a bunch of terrorists in a mall in my city. Things got really scary before the whole thing turned out to be a commercial for a newly released movie! A lot of them sued the responsible parties.
Worst outcome of a joke i heard was....Some guy walking along a trail along the grand canyon with his daughter and her friend. Dad was always a jokester so he was going to jump up on a little wall and pretend to fall over the edge. He jumped up, fell over the edge to his death and his daughter thought he was joking (cause he did this alot). She walked right past 'where he fell' and like 45 minutes later sitting at the car, he never showed up. Because you know, he died. Guess he did prank her in the end.
I love the fact Petter wished us to have an absolutely fantastic day with Patxi on his lap. Just like the good old times! It’s like « Mentour: The Original ». 😉
@@MrPomelo555 Patxi and Pachi are names from the Basque Country; from where I am. I was very surprised when I read that, the dog of an english RUclipsr had a basque`s name. Half joking I wrote "aiba la ostia" that is a very common expression of surprise in the Basque Country. It is something similar to go damn or damn. And its literal translation would be: There goes the communion wafer. More or less.
@@Jablicek Incorrect. At 18 (Adult by law) only he is required to be responsible for his actions. If his family decides to help him then that's at a voluntary motivation.
I remember signs at SEATAC in the 70s that said something along the lines of 'Do not make jokes about bombs - they will be taken seriously'. Some people are just not too bright though.
My daughter did something similar when she was booked to go back to uni after a Christmas break. She was in a bad mood because she’d failed her driving test and when asked if she had any banned items in her luggage, suddenly responded with “oh yes, I’ve got a bomb in my luggage!” My husband had taken her to the airport and he worked in the aviation industry - he couldn’t believe what he was hearing. She had just thought what a stupid question this person’s asking, but it escalated immediately. Soon she was in floods of tears as the woman at the check in point just kept saying. “We have to take what you’ve just said very seriously and you will not be boarding this flight.” She was also told if she did it again, she would get a life ban from flying with EJ.
@@Xnoob545 good point. Asking if anyone’s got you to carry something on the flight for them is quite sensible, but to ask if their luggage contains anything banned is just going to end with kids thinking “stupid question” and coming out with an equally stupid answer.
This young man really messed up his future! And at this age we can expect that he understands his actions. I knew well before, that there is a time not to make stupid jokes - and at the airport this is a total no no! Security is important in this industry and I am old enough to have seen quite a few airplanes being brought down by actual bombs (Lockerbie!) or being hijacked. Authorities have no sense of humor for any security related joke!
Exactly, we all know the big words that you do not say in an airport or on a plane. Bomb, gun, terrorist, explosion so on and so forth. Maybe a little whisper to your friend if no one is around but definitely do not do what this man did.
And they said "jokes shouldn't be illegalized". Aviation industry has been tortured by pandemic and crisis, and now making a security related joke to make them scramble a jet and pay another 50k? Accountants at EasyJet won't be happy about this. Unnecessarily I think every company/banks should have a budget that covers costs to idiots like this. So they will recover financially easily without idiots ruining their budget.
@@cupofjoen There's jokes and there's "jokes". You don't yell "FIRE!" in a packed cinema, either. What this idiot certainly bombed was his life. He'll probably be sent to prison for a while. He'll get a few bills, like the operating cost of two F-18s for an hour or two, the cost to the airline not being able to use their aircraft for a few hours, the cost of compensations they had to pay to the other passengers and probably some others that I don't know about. On top of that, he'll be on the no-fly list for the rest of his life and due to the felony he'll be barred from having any kind of responsible job.
I wouldn't say "they have no sense of humor" because there is just no humor or joke in such stupid actions. So authorities are guiltless here. I'd say people who are doing such stupid things have no sense about what humor is and what not.
@@cupofjoen Who pays such budget? Of course you as passenger as there is no one else who pay. Even if they have a insurance, its costs would became part of ticket prices.
That reminds me of an incident in Australia in the mid 1990’s on a flight from the Tanami goldmine to Alice Springs. A young geologist (but old enough to know better) made up a joke “bomb” with some bits and pieces including bits of electrical cable, and planted it in a work-colleague’s suitcase, before leaving Tanami. From Alice springs everyone was then getting flights to various destinations, but suddenly the airport was locked down, police everywhere, as the luggage had gone through X-ray and the “bomb” was intercepted. Lots of very angry people and one geologist facing charges. I understand that he was let off on reprimand.
@@toriless LOL Dogs do not 'stink!' Dogs smell of, well, DOG! I've smelled Humans that are worse! As for cats being "self-cleaning" yes, maybe they are - BUT what comes out of them in to their 'kitty-litter' trays sure as hell isn't! ;-)
Yikes! And here I am thinking that I've totally messed up, I actually feel loads of sympathy for that young man. Add lawyer and court proceedings and possible jail sentence you cannot fail to take some pity on the guy
My attitude has always been no one involved in air travel security is renowned for their sense of humour and it should be assumed that however hilarious your joke is, they won't get it.
My first interaction ever with the Guardia Civil in Spain was watching them beat down and take away 8 people in total when just 2 guys where fighting on the main street. Not really suprized that they didn't find the joke funny
Some teens are gung ho. Over zealous. I was in the usaf at 23. I arrived early to work on the flightline. No uniform yet. A young airman 19 came in a truck and jumped out with a rifle and had me spread eagle on the tarmac ramp. He said I had no line badge visible. When I showed him my ID & permission papers he realized I was new and belonged there. He felt bad and I said good luck on your next collar. He was nee too. See how stuff can be taken out of context? It's no joke.
I think a good idea would be to teach behaviour/communication on social media in school, as well as basic law. The problem with written communication is that it is not possible to determine what kind of emotional state the person was in writing this, and although saying something like this out loud is also not funny, it would be possible to figure out if the person is joking or not
Aside from the old (9/11) joke - "Hi, Jack!", somebody I know was flying to USA and during this, was trying to convince a lady that the security checks are useless since you can make a knife out of a CD... He then was VERY well treated by the US security, a trip to remember :)
Poor guy. TSA don't like people pointing out how useless they are, and they are typically very petty people who couldn't meet even the incredibly low standards it takes to be a US cop.
Something similar happened years ago when someone was annoyed with a small U.K. airport and tweeted that he was going to blow it up. The airport was evacuated and searched. If I remember correctly he got a fairly heavy sentence and had to pay huge costs.
Guinness doesn't accept stupid records. They once did, but they have learnt their lesson. (Sorry for taking your joke seriously, I just thought doing a meta-joke might be funny.)
He's 18. His brain is still developing and some people's brain needs more developing than others. Maybe don't be so harsh in your judgment over a situation you know very little about.
@@unvergebeneid Yes, I'm sorry for future him. Chances are, in a few years, he'll look back on this and judge himself more harshly than any of us. The sad truth is, he's in trouble, it's his fault, and he's going to pay for it.
@@米空軍パイロット what makes you say that? Because I don't give in to my base impulses to ask for maximum punishment but instead just trust the system and the judges involved to assess what he deserves or not?
After take-off from Darwin on a flight to Perth in a Fokker 100 the purser after the usual safety spiel apologised that there was no in flight entertainment installed on the plane but said that instead his colleague would entertain us with a song and dance routine. Needless to say, she didn't; the only entertainment was the joke itself. That's an example of a harmless prank on board an aircraft.
As a followup, the teenager was ultimately aquitted by a Spanish court, in January 2024. It's important to note that while he did post it on social media, the message was sent to a private snapchat group with only his friends in it. Snapchat has what they describe as a 'proactive law enforcement policy', and potentially alerted the authorities automatically.
This young man has ruined his future, I feel sorry for him and his parents who failed to make him understand that in the post-9/11 world, every airport "takes your jokes seriously".
I think the very first thing I was ever told about airports was that joking about doing ANYTHING of that nature is about as uncool as it gets, and that security WILL take it personally.
Social media has SO much to answer for. I'm sure it seemed a good idea, but then people got involved. If this had been a 12 yo I'd ask for a little leniency, but at 18 yo this guy should have known the likely result - It's not like it hasn't happened and been well publicised before. Maybe keep the key, but the message obviously needs retelling.
It's not social media's fault. It's always people doing stupid shit in the wrong places at the wrong time, The thinking about what you're doing part was never nullified 🤷🏻♂️
@@rosen9425 It was a friends only message. The fact the authorities saw it is a little alarming... so you can't make dark humor jokes to your buddys without worrying about criminal charges, is that what we are coming to?
@@Teh_Random_Canadian Was he alone on the plane? No. Did other passengers hear him joke about it? Possibly. It obviously didn't stay privet did it. Are actual plane bombers off the hook because he can tell his buddies to "arm them" in private chat? Some things are just not necessary to joke about no matter how dark humor it is. It's called taking the room temperature challenge.
@@rosen9425 Depends on the context, if it was just a private chat that was being monitored externally then that is a huge problem IMO. If he was vocal about it and other people heard him then ya, it's on him
We all do silly things but this is down right wrong. A 10 year old knows not to say the words bomb, explosive or hijack on a plane or in an airport. At least I was aware of this, maybe other people never got taught things that should be basic common sense.
Copied from Nick T. Comment: He threw away a very promising future: According to MailOnline, the British youngster detained in connection with the bomb hoax on an EasyJet flight is a chess genius who has been given a seat at Cambridge University. Aditya Verma, 18, allegedly boasted on Snapchat that he would knock up the plane carrying tourists to Menorca, writing, "I'm going to blow this jet up, I'm a Taliban." Now you're forced to believe it. He looks Indian with British nationality I guess
Dacade ago, in my high school days I took my firing system to the school to show it to my physics teacher. It wasn't meant to be any sort of joke. I had a lightbulb to simulate ignitier to don't bring in any of the dangerous stuff. I was making demo in a library, showing the system to my buddy, I guided him through the procedure and let him press the buttons. Suddenly a teacher came in and she asked about the thing. I said that i am showing my firing system to my buddy. She asked if that's a mockup of some sort. I said that it's definitelly not a mock up, but a working device. She was quite shocked when she realized that shes looking at working device. I was also making some demos showing some "special purpose software" that I was coding. At some point my chemistry teacher together with my Polish language teacher decided that they have to call the police because it was all looking a bit suspicious.. At the end police found out that I haven't broke any law and they gave up their investignation. Some time after that they fired chemistry teacher and my Polish teacher had to take a break from work. Even know the reasons were unrelated to the incident, it was quite odd to see that people who called police were the ones to go and I was the one to stay. I bet that everyone expected something opposite.
I would love it if you could make a short video about the current SAS situation (Scandinavian Airlines). It would be interesting and informative to hear your input about what is going on. Maybe a speculative analysis of what would happen if they disappeared, how would it potentially affect Star Alliance and aviation more generally.
Honestly had to look it up because first thing I thought was “what would he know about about the Special Air Services” then I saw the comment about declaring bankruptcy and thought “military branches declare bankruptcy” haha
One thing that is no longer being taught to our youth today, is to exercise common sense, and likewise, to exercise impulse control... -- at the very least, it's not commonly taught, nor is it popular to teach or do. Yes, he was a teenager making a stupid mistake, but, this time, he most likely will not be able to escape the inevitable consequences of jail time and travel privilege revocation. I can only imagine the "Oh sh*t!" moment he had when he saw the fighter jet escort as he peered out his window... costly lesson learned. And, I know that some would come to his defense (pardon my American English), saying "he's just a kid -- he didn't know any better!" A) He's not a kid, B) um, yes, he did know better. The authorities had no way of knowing if it was a joke or a real threat. And even if he said "it was a joke," authorities are still required to initiate and follow protocol to be 100% sure. Even if he admitted that it was a joke, he, by his initial actions, caused terror and dread among those connected to the incident flight. At the very least, he should be jailed (yes, it is illegal to even joke about this). One last thing -- about 50% of real terrorists happen to fall within the jokester's age group. 40% fall within the next age group up. So, it is entirely viable that he could have been a real terrorist -- to be clear, he's not... he simply exercised poor judgment and just didn't think things through.
on another note i am glad it was just a prank, when i read the article i tought "how is that possible? with all the safety procedures currently in place!"
Back in the mid 90s I was on a Northwest Airlines flight from Memphis TN to New York and our flight was delayed on the ground in Memphis after a note regarding a bomb on board was found in an in-flight magazine, our airplane was pulled to an isolated section of the tarmac and all passengers were deplaned out the rear exit, we had to leave everything on board, hand bags, laptops, carryon luggage, we were all taken to a secure area in the customs terminal where we had to wait until they cleared the aircraft. Once the aircraft was cleared we were given a choice of taking that aircraft or being rebooked on later flights, many people decided to take later flights, myself and many others reboarded and took that flight, the delay was at least 3 hours from our initial departure time. Not something I'd ever want to go through again.
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I remember seeing my Japanese friends off from Naha going to the Philippines for Christmas. Mom had let her 8 yr old son pack his carry on bag. And he had packed it with all his favorite fireworks! The look of shock and dis belief on the security guard's face as he ran the kid's bag through the scanner was priceless. He rolled it back and forth through the scanner a few times, motioned his co worker over, and they both looked at it as they rolled it back and forth, then they got their boss who actually had them run it out the back and asked who packed the bag. The kiddo fessed up, and opened the bag as asked. He'd packed a swimsuit, one change of clothes, and the rest was all various fireworks. Fortunately, no one got arrested and everyone made their flight.
With all the fireworks? 😆😆😆
@@koharumi1 Holy post resurrection Batman! Actually, the fireworks went back with me. I gave them back when they got home.
This story reminds me of one from the oil field service industry from the late 1990's. There was a downhole tool referred to as a "bomb" because it was designed to drop through water with a lip on the top that would seat into the downhole tool, It would be anything from 2" to 6" in diameter depending on the tools being used. While approaching the departures desk one crew member asked the other one if he had packed the "bombs". This resulted in a lot of official attention and a missed flight. As result this device is now referred to as a "down--hole opening tool"
An engineer mate has a set of time saving tools he made for marking out the hole positions on the mounting faces of a casting his workshop produces. They're just a load of different sized steel plates with a couple of locating dowels in each, and multiple bolts in strategic places that have all been turned to a point, then hardened. It means that he just has to mill 2 acurate reference holes per face, drop the plate on, and give it a handful of whacks to mark out and centre punch about 15 less critical mounting holes in one quick process.
They're not like any commercially available tool, so there wasn't an obvious name for them, so he just calls them what they are.
It's always amusing to hear about the reaction when he tells an apprentice for the first time to "Go over to Steve, and tell him you need some face punches". :D
@@Reman1975 In nuclear engineering the term CRUD has a specific meaning. One of the first nuclear reactors was built in Chalk River, Ontario. During the first few months of operation some particulate matter was found in the primary cooling system. This was called Chalk River Unidentified Deposits or CRUD. Of course it didn't take long for CRUD to be identified but the term is still used.
Another one you have to be careful with is the word "gun". We have antistatic blow-off guns that use compressed air to clean surfaces of dust and debris. They're can be generally shaped like a gun, but it's obvious they're not a firearm. I was traveling with a sample once and had to be careful how I referred to it, I think I used the word "device" instead of our industry standard word "gun".
@@crusinscamp There's a LOT of things that could use that term...air gun, paint sprayer gun, nail gun, staple gun...and when you're working a specific project its usually not needed to define the whole thing - if you're planning to go paint something "hand me the gun" would kinda imply the paint spray gun because context. But I could see if you're going somewhere with someone you work with but around others who don't know what you're talking about would freak out.
Silly
Some people really have to learn that their behaviour has consequences and that they are fully responsible for their actions.
A short second of stupidity can have lifelong consequences. Hopefully this video will make some people learn by this kids mistake.
Until the 1970's, if a stewardess was late, she'd call in a bomb threat to delay her flight, so she wouldn't miss work. Investigations getting more sophisticated with phone traces, etc, stopped this practice.
@@sparky6086 that seems like an urban legend.
For the simple reason that that stewardess would still be late. Therefore they would still get in trouble for being late.
@@sparky6086 That sounds like an urban myth to me.
@@Jehty_ Not to mention the risk of her being put in prison for a number of years!
And then there was the guy running into the Home Depot bathroom and as he ran past a worker said, "I'm about to blow this place up"... meaning "I have serious diarrhea". The worker panicked and called 911, evacuated the store. A perimeter was set up around the building, bomb squad and everything, etc. All because a guy had to poop.
Did he at least manage to avoid an emergency in his underpants?
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I bet he shit himself when he saw the police coming.
Has anyone noticed the very similar hair colour?
This reminds me of something that happened some years ago at Wichita Municipal Airport. A friend's dad was a counter agent trying to help people after a flight was cancelled. A man came up to the counter throwing his weight around and demanding a seat immediately. Typical 'Do you know who I am?' and 'I should be served first.' Finally he said something like "Would I get a seat if I said I had a bomb?" My friend's dad went "Aha!" and then called for security. He said it was a very satisfying moment.
I guess he got a seat, but not on the plane.
My late grandmother was named Barbara Davis. You wouldn't happen to be the ghostly apparition of a 106-year old woman who collects cookie jars by any chance?
I'm guessing the description of the man's behavior is a bit over the top; likely more to that story. Even if as stated, I think your friend's dad is equally a jerk. I loathe when people use their positions as weapons for their own ego addictions. He could have been just as satisfied by saying, "No, but it could get you arrested, now please wait your turn."
As he just asked what happened if he would say it, I think there was no case to answer.
Your fathers correct response, when asked: "do you know who I am?", would be to put a message over the PA telling everyone that the person he was dealing with appeared to have Alzheimer's and didn't know who he was, and would someone come and collect him.
After planes started flying after September 11th I was on a flight from LAX to BWI. After going through security, everyone was quite somber since flights had only re-started 4-5 days prior. Some clown said to his friend in line in a loud voice, "Be sure they don't find the bomb in your bag." Well that closed that gate, and out of no place there were about 6 guys putting them on the floor to be drug off to that "mystery" room with no windows...
Just FYI the word "drug" is a noun referring to a narcotic or medicinal substance and not the past tense of "drag". The word you're looking for is "dragged
@@eisaatana96 Why?
@@eisaatana96 Whew.... I feel so much better now that I've been corrected by the grammar police. How do I get drug into these things....
@@LoydChampion Actually, that's not grammar; that's orthography! I'd appreciate if someone teaches me something. Ignorance can be easily mended. Conceit and bad sense of humour can't!
@@hrvojebartulovic7870 I can teach you something right now. Some people realize life is too short to give a damn if they are using the precisely correct tense of a word. They would rather spend their time enjoying life and not caring about orthology or grammar or going in comment sections and pretending to be editor in chief of the internet.
What amazes me is the fact that he thought he can get away with it. I don't think that jail time is a punishment but forbidding to fly with any airline would be. Great video Petter.
I think a good 2 years of no fly list would teach him about the seriousness of this stuff.
He was petting alright. 😁
What makes you believe he thought he could get away with it? This was an impulsive act of teenage ignorance and stupidity. I doubt there was much 'thinking' involved.
@@seanharrison4817 Many kids seem to lose the ability to think when they become teenagers and only regain that ability when they reach their 20's.
@@Chris-hf2slSome regain the ability to think quicker than others. Most by 30, some never.
As for flight bans, I think 10 years should be the guideline. Long enough to really hamper future career and holiday plans. Word would get around.
I don't know if you already talk about it, but there was an incident last winter in a Sunwing flight heading to Mexico from Montreal (YUL). It was a chartered flight and the passengers literally stared a party, getting drunk and breaking several passenger flight rule. The cabin crew lost control of the crowd and they got so scared, the hide in the bathroom for the rest of the flight. Several of theses passengers got arrested when back in Canada and faced justice. That would be interesting if you could talk about this one.
Wish I had been there.
Traveling with work colleagues one time, we were discussing updates to the customer copy of the Bill Of Materials (BOM) for a machine we were going to commission. My buddies kept saying "BOM" until I asked them please, PLEASE call it Bill Of Materials while we're on the plane!
In Australia, we have the "Bureau of Meteorology", which is a federal centralised place for reliable weather info here. Issue is, everyone calls it by it's acronym, BOM... e.g. it is normal to hear "have you seen the BOM warning?"
or just spell it out. B.O.M
Same experience. See my post above. "I have the BOMs"... Oh crap!
Well said, what might initially seem like “harmless” jokes in the context of air travel are actually taken very seriously - and rightly so, by the pilots, crew, fellow passengers, aviation authorities etc. my advice, just relax, relax, be mindful of the situation and boundaries and just enjoy your journey and arrive happy. Love mentour pilot , such an awesome channel 👍
I've made a fair number of silly things when I was a young adult. Some of them were truly idiotic. But this story tops it all.
In "our" youth days there was no youtube, no "social"media and so on, so no one except people in the direct proximity was interested in the pranks. You had a good laugh and that was it. If you did something really stupid, you got some comments for 3-4 days in school, a week later no one remembered this anylonger or simply didn't care.
At the moment people have nothing useful to do (apart from getting triggered and offended of complete trivialities) so they get bored and want to push their youtube channel with 300 subscribers, that is were some extremely stupid or extreme pranks have their origin...
@@deineroehre Ya i really feel for the youth of today. Everything they say and do is recorded forever basically. Any mistake they made will be broadcasted and pulled up at any time to humiliate them whenever someone feels like it. No wonder anxiety and depression is rampant among teens
@@Teh_Random_Canadian Anxiety depression - and sometimes suicide.. Not so fun being a teenager these days.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. He’s gonna be paying for this for a long long time.
As well he should.
His parents shouldn't have paid the bail though they should have let him stay in jail. Otherwise it's just 'mon & dad will take care of it' and they never learn
@@IzzyOnTheMove Yep, I blame the parents. Too many dumb kids running around uk without a clue because of dumb parenting.
@@IzzyOnTheMove Aditya Verma, Indian born....
Not the brightest bulb.
@@IzzyOnTheMove I think I would rather have stayed in jail rather than face my Dad if I were in his shoes. Dad was a long fuse, big boom guy and that would definitely have set him off.
I was hoping you'd mention this. I don't like pranks as a rule. We never know how a prank endangers another person's wellbeing or even life. Thank you very much!
Thanks for your view! 😎
Their are funny harmless pranks, and then their is straight up criminal acts that endanger people. Hope this kid gets his ass kicked so he learns his lesson.
I mean, there are benign pranks that are just funny and maybe a bit embarrassing, and there are nasty pranks that are dangerous or have grave consequences.
@@petrairene Pranks are fine *if* you know that the other party consents to it. You can play pranks on family, friends, colleagues... If the other person appreciates being pranked then by all means, prank them! It stops being funny once you play pranks on strangers (without asking), or do things that might endanger others.
@@renerpho Yes. Exactly.
My dad was in Panama in the 80s with the National Guard on some training exercise. When they came back, they had to go through customs. Being military, the US Customs folks would (usually) grab one bag from the group, search it and then wave the group through.
This trip was no different. They searched one bag on the tarmac (NG flew into KIND and disembarked on a ramp, no jet bridge). As the Customs officer searched the bag and waved the group through, one of dad's joes said, "Thank God they didn't find that blow in my bag."
Sooooooooo the Customs folks pulled everybody off the bus they were boarding, dumped everyone's bags and searched every bag. Took forever.
Needless to say that young joe had a very, very bad day.....and he was not well received by his unit afterwards
I'd be real pissed if I actually had some and he got me caught.
Whenever i was flying as a kid, in the queue to to the security my dad always told me, "The chance of having two bombs on the same flight is almost zero, and therefor i have one with me".
Can you imagine what that guy must have felt when he put 2 and 2 together and understood that the fighters and the authorities were there because of his joke?
I would have closed myself in the airplane bathroom hoping they would forget about me...
Funny though if you think about it, that would probably make them be more confident you are building a bomb, and they would kick the door it.
@@MegaLokopo No need to kick the door. The crew can open bathrooms at all times from outside, with a hidden handle.
When he realized it, I think his seat became his bathroom if you know what I mean.
You should care about what everbody else felt not this jerk.
@@jaymzx0 he probably still thought it was all very amusing until the moment he was put in the back of a police car and carted off to a Spanish prison.
Prankster's bomb threat prank lit the fuse of a long list of consequences that will affect his life in the long term, especially with a conviction.
One thing worse than a real bomb threat is a prank one. You spend the rest of the day wondering, what did I miss ? Worse still they breed complacency, right up to the time a real one goes bang.
Not if he's tried in the UK, slap on the wrist and he walks away.
I wonder if jail time will be part of the consequences. It’s all fun and games until…
@@SJF15 I wouldn't be sure of that, jailtime is certainly a possibility.
Dangerous stupidity will not be tolerated.
The worst outcome might be actual use of deadly force like we saw on swatting "jokes" in the past. But this one doesn't look like it's far behind these streamer swatting in terms of outcome and not at all behind in terms of possible outcome. I'm just glad that the aviation industry in general is that professional and does not act headless on such incidents.
I think putting people in real danger of getting shot in their own home far, far exceeds some delays and costs. Neither is good, but one is significantly worse.
It's all about training. Police officers that respond to Swatting calls have way worse training and a much lower threshold to use deadly force.
Just think about how much an F18 pilot would need to know about when and how much force is warranted in what situation. The training these guys go trough is no joke. That's the difference between normal "street cops" with some guns and highly trained military personnel.
Swatting can lead to death only in the uncivilized country of USA. In Europe, deadly outcome is virtually impossible.
Fortunately for all involved, this is not America.
@@Hans-gb4mv even if it was, nothing would've happened. Again: these pilots in the F18s are highly trained. It doesn't matter what nationality they are; all special forces are held to an extremely high standard. You don't get to intercept a passengers jet unless you know 150% what you're doing. These guys are special forces not street cops with 2 weeks of "training" lol
I'm reminded of a couple of university stories. The one from my time at university was similar to this: a student called in with a bomb threat, supposedly hoping to get a midterm test cancelled. Whole campus got put on lockdown and students were stuck in their lecture hall buildings for hours. My dad's story, however, is more interesting.
Back in his day, chemistry labs didn't have set procedures handed down from on high, part of the point of the lab was learning how to take something abstract like some chemical equations and reactivity levels and such and develop a procedure for actually doing that as a practical experiment. Students were, similarly, allowed to access the chemical storeroom and get what they needed according to their procedure. I forget what the lab experiment was supposed to be, but one student developed their procedure based on the process of adding nitrates to toluene.
So she grabbed the necessary chemicals, made a solution of toluene and water and then proceeded to subject it to the nitration process. (I'm being vague here in part because I don't know what the procedure is). She got to the first stage: mononitrotoluene. The teaching assistant came by, said her solution looked a little off, and asked if she was sure about her procedure. She was, and was given permission to continue.
Second stage: dinitrotoluene. TA comes back, at this point the solution looks drastically different from anyone else's, tells her to stop what she's doing and reads the procedure she has written down. He pales. See....the nitration of toluene is the process of making TNT: trinitrotoluene. She's gotten it two thirds of the way there. And since she's just adding nitrate to the solution, there's probably at least some of it that's already TNT. TNT's relatively stable in the forms that we typically use it - it was a big step up over nitroglycerine in terms of not going off when you don't want it to go off. But it's also something you don't just want in solution in a beaker being handled by a undergrad chemistry student who thinks she's doing a different experiment and has no idea that she's making explosives.
So....they evacuated the whole chem building, called in the bomb squad from the local police detatchment, who *carefully* removed the beaker of DNT and disposed of it safely.
That one wasn't a prank, but it's one of the stories from my dad's time in university that makes me think "and you survived all of this how, exactly?" (Easily the most dramatic, another is his bike's front wheel bending and throwing him over the handlebars into traffic - he managed to turn that into a roll, came to his feet running and got back to the side of the road. Somehow.)
How TF do you accidentally make dynamite lol
@@Teh_Random_Canadian I...don't know. lol
It was a relatively advanced chem lab, they were supposed to be adding nitrate to *something* iirc, it just wasn't supposed to be frigging _toluene!_
@@Teh_Random_Canadian ( there is a significant possibility of it being intentional )
I had a high school chemistry lesson where we were taught about nitration of benzene rings, TNT was mentioned, and then we were set two experiments in the same lesson, one of which was a nitration and the other involved methylbenzene (the modern name for toluene).
We joked. The teacher suddenly got super serious. Supposedly one guy tried it anyway but since none of us managed to get nitration - even single nitration - to work... no harm done.
How to fail your chem class :-)!
Not a prank, but a case that caused even more passenger fright:
I was returning from Beirut in the early nineties, right after the civil war quieted down, and with a plane blown up a couple of years ago still embedded in everyone's memories. After all the checks, someone told us that we (me + 2), were not allowed to leave the country due to some unexpected paperwork. The problem was that our luggage was already on the plane. Instead of checking labels or getting us to help in some form, the airport chose to do the following. They placed all luggage in a long line on the ground next to the aeroplane (just as in this video), and then got every passenger out of the plane, walk along the line and point at their own luggage. Then they had to board the plane. The luggages were mixed up randomly, and the passengers had to do the same process all over again. Nobody told them why they had to do this. I was watching from a window and saw everyone pale and frightened, as they were expecting the worst. (See above historical background.) Luggage nobody pointed at, was considered ours and returned. (One luggage was lost even this way.) This was not an actual threat, but what they had put through all those passengers was terrible.
I have no sympathy for this prick. I hope he has his youth taken away from him.
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Having worked security at Gatwick in the past. Nothing new. Passengers at search making 'Jokes' . Then being bewlidered at the total sense of humour of failuer, a hard time with the Police, and often being shown off the airport and told Don't Come back, Anytime.
I do really, *really* long for the times before the aviation industry got neurotic about terrorism. The good old days when security people weren't running the show. This incident is just way out of all proportion. EDIT: removed a needless insult towards security people, sorry about that :( EDIT2: no, bomb threads are not a joke, that's obvious, please stop telling me that
@@jannepeltonen2036 terror jokes aren’t funny.
@@ValentineC137 Interesting, I tried to post an answer but it disappeared... Anyway, I wasn't really referring to jokes about terrorism - they can be an actual problem, if people panic in congested areas - more to stuff like being able to discern what is actually a threat and what is not. Often, the rules seem completely arbitrary, more like security theatre than anything that actually increases the security and safety in any measurable way.
@@jannepeltonen2036 A bomb threat isn´t a joke
@@NicolaW72 Of course not, I wasn't trying to say they were.
Many years ago - in the pre-TSA days, there was an incident at Logan Airport where a person tried taking a novelty Wile E Coyote alarm clock (with fake dynamite sticks) through security in their carry on. The State Police were not amused, but the local media got a chuckle out of the story.
It would be ACME and malfunction.
There is a future in which we will fly naked and still panicking if someone farts too loud.
@@twentyrothmans7308 If the Coyote were handling it. ACME products, when properly assembled and correctly used by a competent individual will not malfunction.
@@atzuras - hopefully in the near future there'll be a not-so-young minimum age for people using the Internet.
I’m sure Foghorn Leghorn would be concerned ‘bout this as well.
Great to get notification of an unexpected video. Keep up the great work! Many thanks from an Irish fan 🇮🇪
Thanks for being here!
@@MentourNow please add closed captions for all videos
@@dontspikemydrink9382 This video did have closed-captions.
I had something similar when I was driving coaches a few years ago. I had a school group on board coming back from France to the UK after 4 days touring the WW1 battlefields and we were coming back through customs when one lad joked about having drugs hidden on him. We were already pushed for time to get on the ferry because of the queues and we ended up having the coach completely unloaded, all of us searched, sniffer dogs brought on board and we missed two ferry departures. Nothing was found but because of the delay, I had run out of duty hours and had to be put up in a hotel overnight, the kids ended up being 5 hours late back home after my company had to scramble to get a replacement driver out to carry on the trip. As you can imagine, that incurred lots of extra cost
Yes - and hopefully these kids learned it, too, that some "jokes" are not funny.
This does not compare to airline safety. If attacks on airlines happen, deaths are not uncommon. A few pills or whatnot slipping through the border crossing would not be fatal.
Lastly an actual terrorist is much more likely to make his crime known than an actual drug smuggler.
It you do a terror attack, but everybody thinks it was an accident you have failed as a terrorist.
If you're smuggling drugs and nobody notices, great for you!
Absolutely love your dog.So calm to sit for so long.
Love to see Patxi again in a video!
Me too.
Same here!!!
Yay, Patxi is back! Such a cute dog. Really needs to be in your videos' background more often. ;-)
Yes!!!
I'm from Mahón, Menorca and the truth is that I didn't find out what happened until I saw the video. ✈Very good video, Peter, thanks for always keeping us informed.👌 Greetings from Mahón, Menorca.👋🏻
Reminds me of a short story I read in a book called "The Hollywood Walk of Shame" about the actor David Niven and movie produce Mike Todd. In 1956, Niven was leaving New York for London for some on location shooting for "Around the World in 80 Days". Before leaving, Todd asked Niven to bring some of his personal items for him. At the airport, Niven, as a joke, wired a transatlantic cable to Todd saying "Have suits, cigars, and radios. Can't for the life of me find your heroin." When Niven arrived in London, both him and Todd were detained and questioned about suspected drug dealings.
Thanks for the video.... Good to see Patchy again!... missed from the green and red cushion couch days.
There’s no accounting for stupidity
Petty cash fund or allowance for doubtful accounts. 🤣
There is no cure for stupidity either!
When it comes to aviation, jokes are fine until they threaten safety. Kelsey from 74 Gear (check him out, great channel)talks about some mild pranks he or other pilots have pulled. Safety is number one, the priority, and almost no measure can be called extreme.
Kelsey did a crossover with Mentor a few years ago. It’s worth finding the video.
Each spoke about the planes they fly.
ruclips.net/video/VZCjRo01AkY/видео.html
Petter and Kelsey have made a few collaboration videos. Once they met in person for a video and wore their pilot dress shirts. In true cockpit ranking fashion, Petter sat on the left (viewer's right) with his four bars shoulder things, and Kelsey on the right (viewer's left) with his 3 bar shoulder things.
I suggest no prank in a critical field like aviation or bulk electric power (worked in both over a 48 year span) is harmless. At the very least it distracts workers and breaks the sense of predictability. Both flaws open cracks for trouble to leak in.
@@Nareimooncatt Yes they did but apparently they've had a falling out? Mentour talked about this before and he and Kelsey are not friends anymore.
@@sallykristinevarne Petter said on his 1 million Livestream that he doesn't know why Kelsey/74 gear (think I'm spelling his name right apologies if not) went silent on him and he's tried to reach out, got nothing, and left it there but open to communication/collaboration again. Afaik Kelsey hasn't said anything. Idk what happened, watch and love both channels, but ball is in Kelsey's court to explain or not at this point.
I prefer this office , than your recording studio. 😁 I miss that time when you was recording next to your dogs and your Mentour theme from Joe Perkins.
There is no cure for stupidity. Petter, thank you for the hard work you put into your videos and excellent content. I enjoy watching both your channels.
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I would appreciate an upcoming video about the final results of the case, if this info would be publicly available.
Not guilty. It’s all very strange. His message was to friends in an encrypted private chat group with the friends with him on the flight. No one could answer how authorities even got the message as they aren’t supposed to be able to. No information on how they became aware of it. Spanish judge said since it was a private message and a supposed joke to his friends , that he wasn’t guilty of knowingly causing public distress. The fact uk intelligence didn’t get involved in the trial or give any information means they wanted nothing to do with it. They are screening things they aren’t supposed to be able to do. So no fine not guilty. Interesting
@@damedusa5107 thank you
This sort of thing disgusts me!
I love a good joke, but aviation security is nothing to joke about.
I remember the first time I ever flew, from my hometown in rural Australia to Sydney, there was a sign at the check-in desk regarding prohibited items that finished saying “we take jokes seriously”.
That has never left my mind whenever I’ve flown.
I hate when I walk with someone at an airport and they start to joke around talking about subject that you just shouldn’t talk about. So unnecessary.
@@fredrikjohansson completely agree.
Very true.
Until the 1970's, if a stewardess was late, she'd call in a bomb threat to delay her flight, so she wouldn't miss work. Investigations getting more sophisticated with phone traces, etc, stopped this practice.
I don't understand what triggers people to do things like that... It's super rare that some idiot will run into a crowded area and yell fire! Shooter! Etc and then claim it was a joke, but people will do it on airlines... This isn't even the first time.
Puppy. 🥰😍🤩 Thanks for having Patxi in the video. 🐾 Since the guy was an idiot, my guess is that he used TikTok. Thanks for the video.
Probably... The platform encourages bad behavior, even props it up with fake likes, extra attention, etc to encourage more of it.
@@volvo09 Yup, exactly.
Patxi! Yes! Telling all of us that we had better listen to what Dad is saying, and then reminding us of what is most important in this world. Really good to see him again.
Two things:
1)Your dog is clearly enjoying the scritchles 😉
2) The luggage inspection reminds me if a trip home to the Netherlands in the 70s. Terrorists had just taken a train in Beilen, but it was still early days of security technology. So when we landed & got to the terminal end of the passenger bridge, right in front of the doorway were 6 tables with partitions in between. Alternating tables had two men or two women, one in front and one behind. There were two guards at the doorway who let us out one by one to an available matching table. At the table, our carry on baggage was thoroughly search by the person behind the table, and we were frisked by the person in front of the table. It took quite a while to deplane.
I believe I asked about the no fly list on Twitter. This young gentleman is about to learn some very harsh lessons
I believe he is indeed.
This is completely nuts. On a par with the American sex offender list. Like, he made a stupid mistake that an 18-year-old is prone to make; the authorities blew it out of all proportion; and there's a completely out-of-proportion extra-judicial punishment added to the madness. EDIT: I seem to have myself written a badly-thought-out comment in a social media, judging from all the responses below. I'm sorry for that. So I'm leaving the original comment there, and trying to expand my point here: 1) I do think the authorities made a correct call in taking this seriously; of course they have to err on the side of caution; 2) I do think there should be consequences - he did cause a horrible experience for the flight crew, the passenger, and the other people involved, and also time and money was lost; I'm just shocked about the lynching mentality I see in many of the comments ("his life will be ruined and this is how it should be", paraphrasing) and also I do still think that you have to consider the maturity of the perpetrator when meting out the consequences (teenagers will make stupid mistakes); 3) I have a problem with all kinds of lists where people end up that constitute a punishment upon a punishment - it can make one's life really hard for a very long time, and appeal processes can be nonexistent or arbitrary, and mistakes do happen in the courts, and people do mature out of pranks like these and people do also change.
@@jannepeltonen2036 This is a really stupid and big mistake considering that bombs already brought down airliners (air india or pan am per example), I4d ay a harsh punishment is needed in this case.
@@jannepeltonen2036 Not nuts at all. The authorities acted appropriately.
@@jannepeltonen2036 And the Left strikes AGAIN!
How in the WORLD can you possibly believe that the authorities "blew it out of all proportion"? Are you serious? The PUNK is what should have been blown out...!
Great to listen to your coverage of this incident. Welcome the young man to the adult world, where your actions both verbal and physical have consequences. The actions of the authorities may seem harsh, but turn this around and if the authorities knew about the tweet or whatever and did nothing.......
Yes, indeed.
If they knew about the tweet and did nothing then nothing would have happened because there was no bomb. What do _you_ think would have happened?
These are sad times to live in. I was forced to teach my preschoolers on thier first flights to not use certain terms or make certain jokes. I definitely felt sad but kids got it well. I wish every parent should educate thier kids a thing or two about the reality that we live in.
Yes.
Back in 1970/71 I was working for PanAm at Heathrow. On an incoming flight half, way across the Atlantic, a couple of young guys decided it would be fun to announce that they had bombs in their bags. They soon changed their stories when they realised that they shouldn’t have said that but the harm was done and the crew didn’t know for sure what to believe. In those days things were done differently and it was eventually decided that the plane would land as normal, the offenders would be arrested by the cops and the bags would be screened by police and airline staff before they went on to the terminal’s carousels, looking for the relevant baggage tag numbers belonging to the offenders so that the bags could be inspected. One was quickly located but the other wasn’t showing up. There were a number of people checking these tags and I decided I wanted no part of that so stayed firmly inside the baggage claim area assisting passengers as usual. Then, to my horror, the door from airside into the baggage hall opened and one of the loaders walked in with a suitcase cradled in his arms. He spotted me in uniform and walked straight towards me until he was about a metre away when he said, “Is this what you’re all looking for?” and literally threw the bag in the air towards me. I had to instantly decide whether to run or catch it. I caught it like my life depended on it and it was indeed the missing bag so I very gingerly took it back outside the the police. That was about 54 years ago and it is a moment I will never forget.
In the early 90s my boss told us about something stupid he did years earlier. He realized he was going to be late for his flight so he stopped at a payphone and called in an anonymous bomb threat to delay his flight.
My boss saw nothing wrong this. He made his flight and that was all he cared about.
Back in the 80's when life was simpler and safer, you could walk with a friend or relative through the airport to see them off. I took my mother to the boarding gate to say goodbye, as we passed through the metal detector, I set it off. My mother turned and said "maybe it's your gun", I was a police officer but was not carrying a weapon. I was quickly surrounded and it was quickly sorted out. Safety in aircraft is a very important matter, you joke around, you pay the price.
Even in the 90's, maybe get a refundable ticket at most.
It wasn't simpler nor safer. Not for everybody. I’m from Romania, a communist country back then under the Ceausescu dictatorship. And I remember watching the news in the 80's and 90's and heard of terrorist atacks from IRA or ETA and others and as a child I couldn't understand why. Come to think, I still don't understand terrorist attacks...
That’s interesting. In Uk, you can walk up to the point before security checks (where you do need to scan boarding pass at those smart gates) however in India you cant even enter the airport building without a plane ticket
@@razvanlexit's politics... no one understands them too
When I was a kid, 8-10, and in an airport for the first time I saw notices:
“Do not mention hijacking”
I briefly protested “but what if you had a friend named ‘Jack’ that you wanted to say hi to!?”
Briefly, was put in my place by my parents!
That's how we learned... usually with a very fast clip alongside the ear hole.
Jack was my dad's name (and no, not John).
Smart kid.
You still remember it, so it must have been a good lesson.
Similar 'issue' if you arrive at a party and they announce you as "Mr and Mrs Bates - and their Son, Master bates!" ;-)
Gru is that you
Nothing funny about that at all. You have to be a real knucklehead to think thats okay. Hopefully he gets whatever is coming to him.
One of the dumbest pranks with fatal consequences was the apparent prank Ozzie Osborne‘s tour bus driver pulled in 1982. The bus driver had an expired pilots license. While on tour and stopped in Florida, he took a Beechcraft airplane out of a hanger, without permission. He took a couple of passengers on a joyride. He was „buzzing“ the tour bus. One of the passengers was Ozzie‘s 25 year old guitar player Randy Rhoads, who also was one of the founders of Quiet Riot. The plane ended up clipping the tour bus, and crashed into a building, killing the 2 passengers and the pilot.
Amazing video👍.
I am a teacher on secondary school and I will definitely play this video to all my teenage students.
Number 1 life lesson that each of them must get.
Right off, threats aren't funny. But in this day and age, why would anyone even think this would not turn out very bad for them? It boggles my mind.
Unfortunately kids now these days look at this as views and potential fame instead of the bad consequences. If they want to really get him they need to put in his ruling that he will not be allowed to use this on his social media platforms or to profit from it.
@@indycustommade3568 though put another way, kids today are still just kids, with undeveloped brains
@@indycustommade3568 true lol
At their age, they can't even comprehend what a real bomb threat is. They were born after 9/11. They don't know about the hijackings of the 80's. Lockerbie isn't on their radar. It isn't 'real' to them in any meaningful way. Older adults have a different frame of reference than these young adults do.
@@indycustommade3568: Aditya Verma posted this on Snapchat, thinking it's funny: "I'm going to blow this plane up, I'm a Taliban." I believe he posted this to his group of friends, and didn't make it public. FYI, I don't use Snapchat.
Please give Patxi a pat from us.
We're not really into aeroplanes, but just watch for your dog🤣
Are you still so friendly once Patxi has entered your pond?
Great video as always! Just noticed that you and Patxi have the same hair color.. awesome! 😎
The potential problem I see with these harsh reactions of authorities is that can be easily abused to ruin someone's life. All one needs to do is hack one of someone's social network accounts and make a threatening post in the right moment and ruin that person's life.
Like the watch dogs game? It's possible. Well any law can be abused not just in the airport. Avsec won't stop acting against anything behave, sound, look, smell, feel like terrorism wether they're a victim or a perpetrator. Safety is number one.
If it gets sorted right, it should blow back on the hacker
@@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648 Sorted right??? Seriously???
How old are you, 3?
Oh my god, Patxi is just so adorable here! Great video too, Mentour!
Gonna have to listen to it again, got slightly distracted by that fluffy cutie xD
Great dog video! 🐶
I think he really loved being back on camera! 🐩
@@MentourNow Yes, indeed.
It sounds so obvoius but I think it would be worth spelling out why this is treated so seriously. I have heard so many people say "oh couldn't they see it was a joke?"... but, when a plane is in the air NO degree of unesessary risk can be taken. Making such a spectacular example of this person should make others realise It can not be joked about. Simply think of a different joke..
If you had a bright kid of 18 being made an example of, would you think in a similar way?
@@jannepeltonen2036 I dont think that kid was that bright if he thought of making a joke about terrorism and bringing bombs to a plane and exploding it, and if i had a kid that did do that he will got what he deserved to be honest, sometimes you have to let your kids especialy when they have around 18 years the, dumb age of people, do stupid stuff and realize that was not realy a good idea. I said sometimes ok theres stuff that is plain stupid and can get you killed.
Me and my parents did something like that to my brother, is not even close to what that guy did, it was just to prove the point that sometimes we need to let them do dumb stuff do find out it is dumb, for what we did, is just something minor, my brother wanted to go to his Internship with a
bicycle instead of bus, we did not let him do it for all of the months he was there because its dangerouns and is tiring much better to use a bus even if you dont like them, well in the final day we let him do it, result he come back home and said never will do it again because he was so tired after work and then ride a bike it was dumb to do it and much prefer a bus, again this is something minor but is to show the point i was trying to make.
The way to point out why they must take the threat as real is to ask what would happen if the people in charge assumed it was a joke and were wrong. It would end them. They have to take it seriously purely from a job security standpoint. Being wrong with a false positive isn't going to end their career. Being wrong with a false negative is.
@@jannepeltonen2036 I do feel sorry for him as an individual because it was probably an impulsive immature joke that I'm sure he regrets now. Most of us if we're honest have said things in life we regret. My point was that airline security must be taken seriously and be seen to be taken seriously. I did not mean to sound judgemental. Peace and love.
@@jannepeltonen2036 Hi Janne. Did you mean to write "stupid" kid? Because it was stupid, irresponsible, and worse.
I just flew 5 hours WITH MY CAT. After a ferry ride, 4 hour train ride and having to be hours early at the airport. Can you imagine if we (and especially my cat, who had been in the carrier for over 12 hours then) had had to go through this??? People with young children, disabled, elderly, tired etc. Missed connections, work... 😡😡😡 How inconsiderate of everybody else. I hope he gets jailed.
cats give you brain worms..google it.
You hope he gets jailed over costing some people 2 hours of their time? He’s a dumb kid who made a mistake, he had no idea it would affect anybody else.
A few years ago a group of people got stuck and threatened by a bunch of terrorists in a mall in my city. Things got really scary before the whole thing turned out to be a commercial for a newly released movie! A lot of them sued the responsible parties.
Worst outcome of a joke i heard was....Some guy walking along a trail along the grand canyon with his daughter and her friend. Dad was always a jokester so he was going to jump up on a little wall and pretend to fall over the edge. He jumped up, fell over the edge to his death and his daughter thought he was joking (cause he did this alot). She walked right past 'where he fell' and like 45 minutes later sitting at the car, he never showed up. Because you know, he died. Guess he did prank her in the end.
How awful
Wow.
You can make many dad jokes, but only one dead joke.
I love the fact Petter wished us to have an absolutely fantastic day with Patxi on his lap. Just like the good old times! It’s like « Mentour: The Original ». 😉
The only positive thing to come out of this story is we get to see the puppy again!
@@njcurmudgeon Don’t forget MOLLY, the mother of Rivendell. 😄
Patxi? The dog is called Patxi? Aiba la ostia!
@@ignaciomoreno9655 What does that mean?
@@MrPomelo555 Patxi and Pachi are names from the Basque Country; from where I am.
I was very surprised when I read that, the dog of an english RUclipsr had a basque`s name.
Half joking I wrote "aiba la ostia" that is a very common expression of surprise in the Basque Country.
It is something similar to go damn or damn. And its literal translation would be: There goes the communion wafer.
More or less.
Well done on Spain authorities, and the man should take the responsibilities for all the cost and problems.
He's 18; it's his family who'll have to bear the financial burden.
@@Jablicek Incorrect. At 18 (Adult by law) only he is required to be responsible for his actions. If his family decides to help him then that's at a voluntary motivation.
I remember signs at SEATAC in the 70s that said something along the lines of 'Do not make jokes about bombs - they will be taken seriously'. Some people are just not too bright though.
My daughter did something similar when she was booked to go back to uni after a Christmas break. She was in a bad mood because she’d failed her driving test and when asked if she had any banned items in her luggage, suddenly responded with “oh yes, I’ve got a bomb in my luggage!” My husband had taken her to the airport and he worked in the aviation industry - he couldn’t believe what he was hearing. She had just thought what a stupid question this person’s asking, but it escalated immediately. Soon she was in floods of tears as the woman at the check in point just kept saying. “We have to take what you’ve just said very seriously and you will not be boarding this flight.” She was also told if she did it again, she would get a life ban from flying with EJ.
Has the rule of asking actually benefitted anyone though?
That is, has anyone tried to smuggle something illegal and then owned up to it when asked
@@Xnoob545 good point. Asking if anyone’s got you to carry something on the flight for them is quite sensible, but to ask if their luggage contains anything banned is just going to end with kids thinking “stupid question” and coming out with an equally stupid answer.
Words have meaning.
In turn, words have consequences.
Too often, people act like words are consequence free.
Well said.
Yes.
True.
Aditya Verma posted this on Snapchat, thinking it's funny: "I'm going to blow this plane up, I'm a Taliban."
This young man really messed up his future! And at this age we can expect that he understands his actions. I knew well before, that there is a time not to make stupid jokes - and at the airport this is a total no no! Security is important in this industry and I am old enough to have seen quite a few airplanes being brought down by actual bombs (Lockerbie!) or being hijacked. Authorities have no sense of humor for any security related joke!
Exactly, we all know the big words that you do not say in an airport or on a plane. Bomb, gun, terrorist, explosion so on and so forth. Maybe a little whisper to your friend if no one is around but definitely do not do what this man did.
And they said "jokes shouldn't be illegalized". Aviation industry has been tortured by pandemic and crisis, and now making a security related joke to make them scramble a jet and pay another 50k? Accountants at EasyJet won't be happy about this. Unnecessarily I think every company/banks should have a budget that covers costs to idiots like this. So they will recover financially easily without idiots ruining their budget.
@@cupofjoen There's jokes and there's "jokes". You don't yell "FIRE!" in a packed cinema, either.
What this idiot certainly bombed was his life.
He'll probably be sent to prison for a while. He'll get a few bills, like the operating cost of two F-18s for an hour or two, the cost to the airline not being able to use their aircraft for a few hours, the cost of compensations they had to pay to the other passengers and probably some others that I don't know about. On top of that, he'll be on the no-fly list for the rest of his life and due to the felony he'll be barred from having any kind of responsible job.
I wouldn't say "they have no sense of humor" because there is just no humor or joke in such stupid actions. So authorities are guiltless here.
I'd say people who are doing such stupid things have no sense about what humor is and what not.
@@cupofjoen Who pays such budget? Of course you as passenger as there is no one else who pay. Even if they have a insurance, its costs would became part of ticket prices.
Boy does this ever make me glad that the internet wasn’t taken so seriously when I was this guy’s age.
When he tapped that send button he signed his own arrest warrant.
That reminds me of an incident in Australia in the mid 1990’s on a flight from the Tanami goldmine to Alice Springs. A young geologist (but old enough to know better) made up a joke “bomb” with some bits and pieces including bits of electrical cable, and planted it in a work-colleague’s suitcase, before leaving Tanami. From Alice springs everyone was then getting flights to various destinations, but suddenly the airport was locked down, police everywhere, as the luggage had gone through X-ray and the “bomb” was intercepted. Lots of very angry people and one geologist facing charges. I understand that he was let off on reprimand.
These days he'd probably get life.
So glad to see a dog back in the frame!! The content is otherwise amazing, but dogs make everything better.
Yes - nice to see that Patxi is well! :-)
except the smell in your house, cats do not stink., self-cleaning
@@toriless LOL Dogs do not 'stink!' Dogs smell of, well, DOG! I've smelled Humans that are worse! As for cats being "self-cleaning" yes, maybe they are - BUT what comes out of them in to their 'kitty-litter' trays sure as hell isn't! ;-)
Poodles smell.
Yikes! And here I am thinking that I've totally messed up, I actually feel loads of sympathy for that young man. Add lawyer and court proceedings and possible jail sentence you cannot fail to take some pity on the guy
We were all young and dumb once...
My attitude has always been no one involved in air travel security is renowned for their sense of humour and it should be assumed that however hilarious your joke is, they won't get it.
When at work leave sense of humour at home. If for no other reason you'd be constantly in hysterics over passenger stupidity.
Well said.
My first interaction ever with the Guardia Civil in Spain was watching them beat down and take away 8 people in total when just 2 guys where fighting on the main street.
Not really suprized that they didn't find the joke funny
Excellent information and discussion, Petter. Great to hear about a situation such as this one, from a pilot's perspective! Thanks!! 👍✈✈👍
Some teens are gung ho. Over zealous.
I was in the usaf at 23. I arrived early to work on the flightline. No uniform yet. A young airman 19 came in a truck and jumped out with a rifle and had me spread eagle on the tarmac ramp. He said I had no line badge visible. When I showed him my ID & permission papers he realized I was new and belonged there. He felt bad and I said good luck on your next collar. He was nee too. See how stuff can be taken out of context? It's no joke.
New edit.
AWW the dog ;-)
Sweet!!
I think a good idea would be to teach behaviour/communication on social media in school, as well as basic law. The problem with written communication is that it is not possible to determine what kind of emotional state the person was in writing this, and although saying something like this out loud is also not funny, it would be possible to figure out if the person is joking or not
How about a simple :-) when you are "joking"?
don't forget that parents need to take some responsibility to
Aside from the old (9/11) joke - "Hi, Jack!", somebody I know was flying to USA and during this, was trying to convince a lady that the security checks are useless since you can make a knife out of a CD... He then was VERY well treated by the US security, a trip to remember :)
Poor guy. TSA don't like people pointing out how useless they are, and they are typically very petty people who couldn't meet even the incredibly low standards it takes to be a US cop.
Not illegal to point out how useless the TSA is. Infact they even allow knives up to 6 cm.
The joke about someone greeting their friend Jack on a plane is much older than 9/11. I remember hearing that in 80s
Your dog in a thumbnail is the reason I started watching, so I'd love more videos in your home office with dogs!
Something similar happened years ago when someone was annoyed with a small U.K. airport and tweeted that he was going to blow it up. The airport was evacuated and searched. If I remember correctly he got a fairly heavy sentence and had to pay huge costs.
Maybe he can apply for a Guinness world record for the most expensive prank?
I hope he gets jail, and added to the global no-fly list.
Guinness doesn't accept stupid records. They once did, but they have learnt their lesson.
(Sorry for taking your joke seriously, I just thought doing a meta-joke might be funny.)
He's 18. His brain is still developing and some people's brain needs more developing than others. Maybe don't be so harsh in your judgment over a situation you know very little about.
@@unvergebeneid You're the only one here who doesn't grasp the gravity of the situation.
@@unvergebeneid Yes, I'm sorry for future him. Chances are, in a few years, he'll look back on this and judge himself more harshly than any of us. The sad truth is, he's in trouble, it's his fault, and he's going to pay for it.
@@米空軍パイロット what makes you say that? Because I don't give in to my base impulses to ask for maximum punishment but instead just trust the system and the judges involved to assess what he deserves or not?
well, you know what they say about fools and their money. this fool will have to pay a lot of it.
After take-off from Darwin on a flight to Perth in a Fokker 100 the purser after the usual safety spiel apologised that there was no in flight entertainment installed on the plane but said that instead his colleague would entertain us with a song and dance routine. Needless to say, she didn't; the only entertainment was the joke itself. That's an example of a harmless prank on board an aircraft.
As a followup, the teenager was ultimately aquitted by a Spanish court, in January 2024. It's important to note that while he did post it on social media, the message was sent to a private snapchat group with only his friends in it. Snapchat has what they describe as a 'proactive law enforcement policy', and potentially alerted the authorities automatically.
This young man has ruined his future, I feel sorry for him and his parents who failed to make him understand that in the post-9/11 world, every airport "takes your jokes seriously".
Glad to see the dogs again!
I think the very first thing I was ever told about airports was that joking about doing ANYTHING of that nature is about as uncool as it gets, and that security WILL take it personally.
I want to pretend I got accidentally got on the place to HI instead of AK, would that be a safe joke?
@@toriless it's a relatively common one.
Social media has SO much to answer for.
I'm sure it seemed a good idea, but then people got involved.
If this had been a 12 yo I'd ask for a little leniency, but at 18 yo this guy should have known the likely result - It's not like it hasn't happened and been well publicised before.
Maybe keep the key, but the message obviously needs retelling.
Apparently it was a snapchat between friends and not a public post, so how authorities even knew about it is kind of suspicious
It's not social media's fault. It's always people doing stupid shit in the wrong places at the wrong time, The thinking about what you're doing part was never nullified 🤷🏻♂️
@@rosen9425 It was a friends only message. The fact the authorities saw it is a little alarming... so you can't make dark humor jokes to your buddys without worrying about criminal charges, is that what we are coming to?
@@Teh_Random_Canadian
Was he alone on the plane? No. Did other passengers hear him joke about it? Possibly. It obviously didn't stay privet did it.
Are actual plane bombers off the hook because he can tell his buddies to "arm them" in private chat?
Some things are just not necessary to joke about no matter how dark humor it is. It's called taking the room temperature challenge.
@@rosen9425 Depends on the context, if it was just a private chat that was being monitored externally then that is a huge problem IMO. If he was vocal about it and other people heard him then ya, it's on him
As always... Mentour, you hit it out of the ballpark again, Good stuff!!
All because of him wanting a laugh, I think he has definitely learned his lesson and will continue to his lesson for years to come.
well at least we saw a beautiful Hornet airshow
🐩 ❤❤❤ The dog is back!!!
I refuse to believe a young English lad on the way to a holiday in Spain with his mates would ever do anything ill-advised.
We all do silly things but this is down right wrong. A 10 year old knows not to say the words bomb, explosive or hijack on a plane or in an airport. At least I was aware of this, maybe other people never got taught things that should be basic common sense.
@@joshuam20 It was kind of a gag. Or at least, you know, a wry observation. Obviously the act needs work.
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He threw away a very promising future: According to MailOnline, the British youngster detained in connection with the bomb hoax on an EasyJet flight is a chess genius who has been given a seat at Cambridge University.
Aditya Verma, 18, allegedly boasted on Snapchat that he would knock up the plane carrying tourists to Menorca, writing, "I'm going to blow this jet up, I'm a Taliban."
Now you're forced to believe it. He looks Indian with British nationality I guess
Do I need to explain the joke, as well as explaining that it was one? Man oh man.
@@baerlauchstal Yes I see that, I was skim reading not really paying attention.
Great video, as always. Couldn't help but notice that the no fly list graphic you put up included "salsa" and "avocado" 😄
They shouldn´t fly, too.
Cracking video! When the dog has the same hair colour as the owner… Awesome!
Dacade ago, in my high school days I took my firing system to the school to show it to my physics teacher. It wasn't meant to be any sort of joke. I had a lightbulb to simulate ignitier to don't bring in any of the dangerous stuff. I was making demo in a library, showing the system to my buddy, I guided him through the procedure and let him press the buttons. Suddenly a teacher came in and she asked about the thing. I said that i am showing my firing system to my buddy. She asked if that's a mockup of some sort. I said that it's definitelly not a mock up, but a working device. She was quite shocked when she realized that shes looking at working device. I was also making some demos showing some "special purpose software" that I was coding. At some point my chemistry teacher together with my Polish language teacher decided that they have to call the police because it was all looking a bit suspicious.. At the end police found out that I haven't broke any law and they gave up their investignation. Some time after that they fired chemistry teacher and my Polish teacher had to take a break from work. Even know the reasons were unrelated to the incident, it was quite odd to see that people who called police were the ones to go and I was the one to stay. I bet that everyone expected something opposite.
I would love it if you could make a short video about the current SAS situation (Scandinavian Airlines). It would be interesting and informative to hear your input about what is going on. Maybe a speculative analysis of what would happen if they disappeared, how would it potentially affect Star Alliance and aviation more generally.
I'd love to see that too! It's serious when SAS takes the route of filing for Chapter 11 as a tool for restructuring the airline.
I'd like to see that too.
Honestly had to look it up because first thing I thought was “what would he know about about the Special Air Services” then I saw the comment about declaring bankruptcy and thought “military branches declare bankruptcy” haha
@@AlwaysBolttheBird That would have been an interesting story, too.
One thing that is no longer being taught to our youth today, is to exercise common sense, and likewise, to exercise impulse control... -- at the very least, it's not commonly taught, nor is it popular to teach or do.
Yes, he was a teenager making a stupid mistake, but, this time, he most likely will not be able to escape the inevitable consequences of jail time and travel privilege revocation. I can only imagine the "Oh sh*t!" moment he had when he saw the fighter jet escort as he peered out his window... costly lesson learned.
And, I know that some would come to his defense (pardon my American English), saying "he's just a kid -- he didn't know any better!" A) He's not a kid, B) um, yes, he did know better.
The authorities had no way of knowing if it was a joke or a real threat. And even if he said "it was a joke," authorities are still required to initiate and follow protocol to be 100% sure. Even if he admitted that it was a joke, he, by his initial actions, caused terror and dread among those connected to the incident flight. At the very least, he should be jailed (yes, it is illegal to even joke about this).
One last thing -- about 50% of real terrorists happen to fall within the jokester's age group. 40% fall within the next age group up. So, it is entirely viable that he could have been a real terrorist -- to be clear, he's not... he simply exercised poor judgment and just didn't think things through.
Indeed.
Yeah. Young generations today are taught to believe that they are a unicorn or something.
on another note i am glad it was just a prank, when i read the article i tought "how is that possible? with all the safety procedures currently in place!"
Back in the mid 90s I was on a Northwest Airlines flight from Memphis TN to New York and our flight was delayed on the ground in Memphis after a note regarding a bomb on board was found in an in-flight magazine, our airplane was pulled to an isolated section of the tarmac and all passengers were deplaned out the rear exit, we had to leave everything on board, hand bags, laptops, carryon luggage, we were all taken to a secure area in the customs terminal where we had to wait until they cleared the aircraft. Once the aircraft was cleared we were given a choice of taking that aircraft or being rebooked on later flights, many people decided to take later flights, myself and many others reboarded and took that flight, the delay was at least 3 hours from our initial departure time. Not something I'd ever want to go through again.