What's up with the Jeep Wrangler JL Hinge Corrosion?
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Why Jeep Wrangler JL Door Hinges Corrode (And How to Fix It)
In this video, we'll explore the reasons why Jeep Wrangler JL or Jeep Gladiator door hinges corrode and discuss a possible solution to the problem. We'll also show you how to identify the signs of corrosion and offer tips on how to prevent it from happening in the first place. Let us know in the comments if you've experienced Jeep Wrangler JL or Jeep Gladiator hinge corrosion!
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Hello,
Just so you know, the hinges are aluminum, not steel. There are many people reporting the bubbling of the paint occurring not only at the hinge area, but along the edges of door panels, the hood, the windshield frame and tailgate skin.
Aluminum oxidizes, it doesn't rust. The surface of the aluminum releases aluminum oxide which appears as a white powder, and lifts the paint. I believe the issue lies in poor paint/surface prep and priming at the factory. Perhaps the other manufacturers who use aluminum panels have better quality control practices?
I enjoy your channel's content.
Cheers
Having owned an aluminum toy hauler built by a horse trailer manufacturer, when we visited the factory they were applying a 3M barrier tape where aluminum and steel structures joined.
That’s neat to hear!
I used to work on sea going aluminum containers, with iron hinges. It wasn't 3M but we used a plastic barrier tape between the hinges and the doors.
Same thing on semi trailers with steel sub frames and aluminum skins and upper framework.
I put tape on the washers for fastening anything to my aluminum trailers to minimize direct contact.
While I agree don’t take it out on the service mgr. The cost to do it right is justified when spending 40 to 80k on a Jeep. You down playing it by production cost to do it right would be expensive, is crazy to think that way. I’ve had numerous issues and going back again to my local dealership for it happening again on my door not hinges but the actual door and in my windshield. My JL warranty expires in July so I’m taking it back in to get other areas corrected again. So yeah I’m a bit frustrated with a 2018 Jeep JlU that cost 50k is doing this.
I understand the frustration, didn’t want to down play it just offered my opinion, I’ve had so many Jeeps this issue just became second nature
What is Jeeps official warranty on hinge bubbling?
I think you are dismissing them by saying “yeah, it happens”. No it shouldn’t. Not all of us have a spray booth and the know how to go a repaint. The fact is you’re spending a lot of money and to have a vehicle flake and corrode is unacceptable. But jeepers will just accept it as a Jeep thing.
The dealers are giving people the runaround and it’s just not fair.
As a first time Jeep owner it was heartbreaking to see the bubbling. Not only is it around the hinges but I do see it around the door edges as well.
Sorry to hear
Take it to a dealer I had mine painter for free as long as it’s under 5 years they will take care of it .
I bet that's the last jeep you will buy 😂
@chrisrasco7519 why would you have to put thousands of dollars in a jeep you just bought 😂
@@chrisrasco7519I just bought mine from the dealer, they should’ve had this fixed already…i’m guessing i can’t bring it in to grt it fixed under warranty? well ig this is questions for me to start asking my dealer 😂
So another option is to put a gasket between the two surfaces. I used to be one of the Mechanical Engineers for Loadrite Boat Trailers and we had to deal with galvanic corrosion all of the time. We had formex gaskets made to go between out hot dip galvanized crossbars and aluminum frames. It's important to keep them clean so no catalyst can get between the surfaces and speed up the reaction
A gasket is what I was thinking too.
@@jmcmahan15 it's the cheapish fix for the plant if they still want to keep pumping numbers out fast
Agreed!
A gasket was my first thought too. Is someone making such gaskets for purchase?
I also fight marine-based-galvanic corrosion issues as a fishermen. Call me crazy, but smearing on TEF45 by Marelon on the hinge PINS may significantly slow it also as the stray current won't make it to the hinges... NOT a long term fix, but helps me sleep better at night. Marelon TEF45!!!
JL Wrangler Forums has a thread titled ‘Bubbles in paint at door hinges’ that contains a copy of a recent (Feb 2023) Stellantis TSB (p188). They use zinc shims under the new hinges.
Good info!
Thanks Jon!
Zinc=Sacrificial metal?
Sounds like what we do on boats.
Put less noble sacrificial anodes on aluminum and stainless parts to minimize corrosion of the other parts.
Magnesium anodes are used in Fresh water only, Aluminum anodes are used in salt or brackish water.
Replace whenever they are 50% disintegrated.
So: draw your own conclusions as to whether this will work.
In plumbing, if you join Copper to galvanized pipe without a galvonic break: fitting with plastic washer, the Copper will corrode for many feet after the joint.
This happened in my house.
Galvanic corrosion combined with seam sealer that failed, especially on thinly painted edges, could be reason for other areas of bubbling.
My concern there is the Zinc will become sacrificial and need replacement, though easy enough to do as a boater I do it annually...
Aloha Matt 🤠. Mahalo for your sharing this video 📸 information to us as this provides options for addressing the problem with the dealership. Also, this gives us a better way to address the situation better too.
Thanks for binging our videos Ryannew!
I don't know about not bashing them, they produced a product, found out about all the problem, (which was tbh inevitable) and didn't fix it. Now with the lawsuits they have extended the coverage but are making it very difficult for owners to actually get their vehicles repaired,.. personally ive been waiting almost 2 months now to hear back from a dealership about getting all the bubbles fixed (again) on a 62,000$ vehicle thats not even 3 years old. Also it's not just the hinges as some commenters have mentioned. My hood tells a different story.
Sorry to hear
I’ve always wondered what that bubbling around the hinges were. This video helped me understand.
Great!
I greatly appreciate your videos and your advice. In my opinion, you have the best advice on RUclips about Jeep Wranglers. This bi-metal corrosion problem was a major issue with the old Land Rover "Series" vehicles (Series I, II, IIA & III). I owned a number of them between 1964 and 1993. Rust and corrosion were never major issues on any of my Land Rovers while I owned them, but I washed all of them frequently and washed them every week in winter months (living in Montana and northern Utah), and washed them frequently after driving in salt water while living in San Diego. My Jeep 2012 Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon has done well, even though this Jeep has resided with me since early 2017 when I shipped it from Utah to the Island of Molokai. My major advice is to rinse off and wash your Jeeps (and Land Rover products) frequently. The more CARE you give to your vehicle, either Jeep or Land Rover product, the fewer the problems you'll have with it. Thank you for your great advice! Andrew "Andy" McKane IV, 23 June 2024, Maunaloa, Molokai, Hawaii.
FYI this not only happens along the hinges but where the aluminum panel folds over on to the inner structure as well. Had my 2018 JL HellaYella fixed recently at Flemington Jeep Chrysler. They had to do both door and hood edges plus the hinges. Very frustrating! For Jeep to keep doing it is an exercise in futility and takes advantage of their loyal customer base. It would be interesting to know how much they have spent to make the repairs under warranty. My guess is pennies since they will not fix the problem at the factory level. I do not know how much the factory is making off the Wrangler, but I am sure they are factoring in the cost for flaws like this to cover their losses. Love the channel Matt, keep up the good work!
Good video idea, all Jeep owners need to be aware
Thanks for watching!
Had my 2019 Mojito painted three times in the Boston MA area…the first time it was done terribly by Brigham Gill Jeep..
It came back so I went to Herb Chambers in Millbury. They were great and the shop they used were incredible at matching a very difficult color, but unfortunately the corrosion returned in 16 weeks. I had to wait 5 months for another appointment to go in for a third time. Again the work was done very well, and so far, so good….🤞🏼
Thanks bluepencil!
Gary Mathews Jeep in Clarksville Tennessee
Has repaired mine without question, first the drivers door
Now the other three! They have been excellent. 2018 JLU
Thanks Brian!
Thanks for addressing this issue!
Thanks Dawn!
Great information as always . Ty
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Thanks for the video - dropping my 2019 JL off next month for all hinges/doors/hood. So frustrating.
I’m glad you addressed this, just a bit of info I am currently waiting to get my 21 JLR repaired , but it is the side edge of my hood, apparently there is a problem with prep to some other areas that are aluminum also, thanks for the video.
That’s interesting!
Yes, they prep and paint the aluminum and steel panels in the same location, so some ferrous particles settle on the edges of the aluminum panels with a hasty wipe before paint.
@@dustingibson2407 I tend to agree this problem lies in something well beyond simple galvanic corrosion... Door edges only bubbling screams a breakdown in the process other than just dissimilar metal corrosion. Ferrous particles (think fish eyes/latex etc) floating around and one hasty wipe has my vote in SOME cases here.
Another great video Matt!! I actually bought those Rock Stopperz right after purchasing my Jeep! I think they’re great and worth the $$!!
Thanks Laura!
Had mine taken care of and they did a fantastic job. Long Island Port Jefferson
Thanks Hector!
info for the sponsor! have a 4 door wrangle manual on order, wife already bought the guards for the hinges to be part of my christmas present. First new vehicle ever, want to keep it safe!
Im in Pittsburgh area and have delt with Monroeville Jeep on this issue . They knew what to do and got me in fast only complaint is not with them but this issue happened several times and it resulted in my JLU getting almost completely repainted over three trips with the doors , hinges ,hood tailgate !!!!
I had hinge corrosion on my hood (JK 07’ Sport) Newark Chrysler Dodge Jeep took care of it under warranty back in 09’😊I now have a 22’ JLU (no issues yet 🤞🏽🤞🏽)
Good to hear!
I had corrosion on my hinges and lower side of the doors on my 2020 Wrangler JL. I went to Gator Jeep in Melbourne, Florida and they took care of it. They replaced all the hinges, replaced the doors and repainted the Jeep. No cost to me and it was done in aprox 3 weeks.
Awesome!
Wow amazing. I wish it was that easy. I’m in south Florida and went to a dealership and they told me they are backed up for a year.
Good vlog today!
Thank you!
I haven't had the door hinges bubble (knock on wood), however I am currently dealing with 3 areas of bubbling on the hood near the fender flares on my Jeep Gladiator. Star Dodge in Abilene, TX has been taking care of me and currently a waiting a scheduled date for the body shop.
Thanks Will!
I haven’t seen this on
My 2021 4xe but responsible should lie with the manufacturer not the consumer
Not wrong!
Great video Matt! My wife’s 2019 Rubicon is doing this around the hinges on the doors add at the bottom edges of a couple doors,around Hood hinges and on the front edge of the hood that I had clear film protective added when it was brand new. but have not seen any yet on the tailgate. Thank goodness she picked white.
This is the exact reason I will NOT be buying a gladiator and that’s a shame because I have became very fond of her jeep.(when she lets me drive it)😏😄
Dang! Hope they have a fix soon!
What kind of clear film did you add to the edge of the hood? That’s where my corrosion is.
@@SoCalwave i’m not mistaken I think it was 3M brand material.
I live in North Idaho and took my Jeep Gladiator to Dishman Dodge in Spokane Valley Washington. They were very accepting of the issue and told me that they are no longer doing “repairs” at the shop because the issue could not completely be solved with body work and paint. I was told that there was an issue with the actual metal and therefore they are completely replacing the doors/hinges. I don’t know if this is just what this dealership is doing, but they were very knowledgeable about it. Only downside is there was about a six month waiting period for parts, but I am on the list. Probably also important to note that I’m having the issue on the hood hinges as well.
Good to hear they would help!
It’s not just the hinges. I had a 2018 Rubicon with the same issue on the windshield frame. The dealer refused to fix it claiming it wasn’t part of the body and therefore not covered. I couldn’t look at it any more and traded it in on a Gladiator. I am sure it will happen again but I do love my jeeps.
Haha same!
What if I get the corrosion fixed and repainted then switch the hinges out to the aftermarket aluminum hinges? Will that corrode like steel since they’re the same material?
I’m looking at my 2024 and I can see some type of shim put in between the door and hinge. Thought I had to some galvanize corrosion in the hinge but it turns out it was an air bubble.
Slingerland Chrysler Dodge Jeep in Owosso Michigan does a great job on this.
Our 2020 Sting Grey Sahara is scheduled to be repaired in July. Wetzel Jeep has an outstanding body shop.
It will return in 6-12 months. You can’t fix corrosion, the panels need to be replaced.
Awesome!
Idk, my bro. It’s easier to say “don’t bash jeep” when you have some pull and they take you seriously. I have a 2020 with galvanic corrosion and 3 dealers have left me hanging- it’s 2023 so according to the warranty sheet, I won’t be able to get mine fixed. Literally can’t even get a call back even after they inspected it and determined they’d fix it. Makes it hard to want to keep a jeep.
I don’t have a crazy amount of pull, I just didn’t want to rip them apart online.
The required warranty repair, should be based on the date of the complaint… Simply allowing the warranty to expire in order to avoid the work, would never stand up in court!
Kindle in NJ. I work there, but more the fact, we have a body shop in house and do these all the time
Thanks Ian!
Thanks Matt. My 202 JL is not showing any issues. However, I have a great dealership, and I would believe they would fix it....
Hope so!
I take mine in to get fix in two weeks here in Minnesota at barnett jeep and ram in white bear lake had to wait until the salt was off the road.
Thanks Adam!
Hey Matt, thanks for the video. Sorry if this is not a relevant comment but I was wondering if you could do a video on the defrost issue many of the JL’s have? My 2021 JL has a defrost that only blows through the center 6-8 vents and does not blow out at all through the 50 other vents! No air comes from defrost on driver or passenger side. My understanding is that it’s a hit or miss thing that happens in production and that not all JL’s have the issue. I saw a recent video of 2022 Gladiator driving in blizzard conditions and the defrost issue prevented him from seeing out his windshield while driving. It was caked in ice! I found a star publication but when I contacted Jeep and several dealerships; they would not address the issue. I actually cracked my windshield right down the center because I ran the defrost so hot; bc it’s not evenly dispersed through the windshield. I also hear the 4xe ‘s are going through it too when they auto start their Jeep in the morning on a cold weather day and let it sit running for a period of time… cracked windshield!!
Any attention to this would be greatly appreciated!!
Not a bad idea! Thanks for the suggestion!
I know there are one or 2 companies that sell aluminum replacement hinges. I’m tempted to do that one day as it might be a quicker process and not be without my Jeep for a little while.
Try it!
A thin piece of nylon or UHMW between the two would also keep the two dissimilar metals from touching as well.
Good point!
Wondering if you could put a clear 3M film under the hinge (like the Rock Stopperz) if that would then keep those metals from meeting up and corroding.
I would like to hear about that too.
Please let us know what you end doing with your Jeep hinges. I'm thinking spraying mine with a clear lacquer underneath.
Curious as well.
I think 3M film would work, or drastically slow it down. I will talk to my local wrap shop about this.
Might need to test it!
I wonder if they fixed this with the 2024s. What if you put in a gasket between the two metals?
I think if you’re paying 40-60k for a Jeep.. this shouldn’t be a perpetual issue. I have it all over my JL, and since I’m right outside the warranty period they pretty much told me I’m out of luck. Which sucks because I didn’t even notice it until recently, and it’s getting worse rapidly.
I’ve also read some people have gotten this fixed 3 times just to have it happen again, and then they’re out of warranty.. So I don’t know if it would have made a difference getting it reported seeing as it prob would have reappeared.
This is bs. Jeep should fix it, no matter the warranty because it’s a factory issue. It should be a recall. My last Jeep had a factory defect where casting sand from the factory was clogging my heater core leaving me with no heat in the winter on the passenger side. I’d have the lines blown out just to have them clog with sand again within months.
Of course there was no recall or way to fix it without paying thousands.. so I traded it in for my current Jeep. My new JL runs great but now I have paint issues 😂
What do you do if you love Jeep, but their constant manufacturing f’ups just keep happening?
I’ve put up with it for 10yrs because I just love jeeps. But it would be nice if they got their shit together.
They use aeroshell 33 grease to prevent this on ar15s, m16s. Every oil change maybe coat and reinstall?
Their has to be some form of hard rubber gasket or something that could be placed between the door and hinge. It would have to be thin and hard durometer rubber as to not have flex allowing doors to remain lined up
Agreed!
Hi Matt, I have this same issue on three of the doors of my 2018 JL Sport S. On December 15-2022 I made my claim at a dealer in central Florida and on March 31 they sent me a message telling me that it was already approved but that I could take up to two months to get an appointment with the body shop. This is extremely frustrating.
That sucks!
BEWARE ! Just got my 2020 Jeep Rubicon back from Suncoast in Seminole FL, After 6 months of this process. Replaced all doors and the hood. Came back with a dozen air Bubbles in the new hood, door locks on passenger don't work, New warning light on dash, and Rubicon decals will not be put on for 3 more weeks. Such a mess with Suncoast DO NOT GO THERE for Corrosion warranty claim and they never offered me a rental took 2 weeks for them to complete
Good to know!
It baffles me that the Jeep engineers did not know this when they went to aluminum door panels on the 2018 models. I just bought my wife a 2020 Wrangler with low kms and it looks brand new but half the hinges have paint bubbles. A local dealer has me on the list to re paint.
My 2022 JLUR hinges started when it was about 4 to 5 months old. My wife’s 2021 JLU Willys started after about a year and paint shop said needs 3/4 of the Jeep repainted. Our last 2 JL’s (2018’s) started after a little over a year.
Never fixed any of them. Doesn’t seem worth the hassle as the body/paint shop said it will return.
Jeez! Hopefully it gets fixed!
It is more than just a hinge problem also. My wife’s 2020 JLU is experiencing the same corrosion problem halfway down the driver’s side of the hood, along with the hinges.
That sucks
Hey Matt, great video, big fans. I was wondering if you can help me out. I am looking to purchase a Willy and keep it for a long time. Should I got the 4xe or regular gas Willy? 😊
I like the regular non-4xe
Brown daub Easton Pa . They painted it but now I here a lot more outdoor noise top a pillar
Thanks Brandon!
I have a 2018 jl, and plan to use a sheet of thin rubber, or silicone, to put between the hinge and body.
Good idea!
I have been diligently and patiently trying to resolve this problem with my 2019 JL but have no success. The claim is approved but all doors and hinges are backlogged by another year! No phone calls are being returned and no updates provided. I am absolutely stunned that a loyal Jeep owner is treated in this unprofessional manner. They have pushed me to where Jeep has lost me as a customer.
Have a 2023 JL rubicon Black that our dealer said if they fix the paint it will be on car fax for future sale
My local dealership, Freedom Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep in Lexington, KY took care of this for me by reaching out to Jeep on my behalf. Jeep responded by REPLACING three doors (driver & passenger front, and driver rear), the tailgate hinges, and fixed a spot on the edge of my hood. I was extra tic that Jeep was replacing the doors. After getting it back from the body shop, I drove it for a couple weeks before it got really cold here. Then noticed I was getting a lot of air leaking into the cabin. Turns out, the replacement doors are missing the “weld” or “epoxy” seal around the channel that holds the weatherstrip to the door. So even with the weatherstrip in place the air just comes in from behind the channel that holds it onto the door. I took it back to the dealer, they reached out to Jeep and Jeeps says “that’s how the doors are made, there is nothing wrong with them.” So the dealer says there is nothing they can do. I asked them to show me a newer Jeep and asked, “if that is how the doors are currently made, then why isn’t it that way on any of the new Jeeps?” Silence. So I have had to tape around the door to cover the gap between the door and the channel that holds on the weather strip to keep the air out/in. It still leaks air. I still get mad about this when I talk about it. My 2018 JLUR has to be taped up to keep the air out! Of course, that also means no deep water crossings either!
Thanks for the suggestion!
That’s such a bummer!! I feel for ya man!
I just got mine back 3 weeks ago, new hinges on all five doors, four new doors and it's like sitting in a wind tunnel. Had a tech ride in the back seat... "seems fine to me" Going to the local sub-contracted body shop (they do fantastic work) next week to see what he can do.
I bought a used 2021 wrangler. Is a used jeep covered by the factory warranty?
I think the best thing to do is get it painted also put paint protection film inside of the door hinge then mount it
Good call!
Bought aluminum hinges for our 2018 jeep jl.Under the hinges the area is not painted.The metal hinges on aluminum door causes white powder corrosion. To correct this I bought aluminum hinges and painted doors repaired paint bubbles and painted whole door.Started a case with stelantis with Jeep customer sevice.The cystomer service is iff shore so unfortunately the person i was talking to was very difficult to understand,this is unacceptable.Still waiting for a call back I call weekly and the case representive "ashkor" is on another line and will return my call next week.I did get to speak to a nice woman from bengal who was eating a tasty mango, with no urgency to interupt her lunch or help my situation.They should of painted under the hinges and not mix matched metals iron/aluminum but now it our problem.good luck all.
I used to live on the East Coast and drove a 2021 Wrangler 4-door to work and running around. My door hinges, hood hinges and tailgate hinges all started to corrode. The salt used on the roads I believe just gave this rust a head start. Jeep should start to use steel for hoods, door panels, tailgate panels this should stop the corrosion. My under carriage was rusted every where. I live in California now and drive a Ford Bronco Wildtrac, and love it. Jeep corrects the corrosion I will buy another Wrangler.
Not a bad idea!
@@DIRTROADCRED Thanks!
I think I noticed a spot around a hood hinge on my 2021. If you have a problem, do they fix all the hinges or just the one corroding? I've never had a good experience with Jeep service.
They will check the problematic hinge and fix any others!
My buddy is on his 2nd or 3rd fix. Last time was just the doors. They had to repaint his whole wrangler this time because the hood and doors needed it again, and it couldn't be paint matched. Unfortunately, it will be out of warranty if he has issues again in a few years.
Fortunately I have not had the issue myself
* noggin on wood*
That sucks!
My dad’s Jeep Wrangler is a 2019 he bought brand new, and to this day has 6,900 miles. It was always garage kept and the corrosion was actually present when he bought it new! He didn’t notice it, but I did. I know it sat at the dealership for about a year, outside before my dad finally bought it. My Dad just passed away so does anyone know if Jeep will fix this underneath Warranty?? This keep still smells brand new and he was the only driver and owner.
Does someone make film for the area underneath the door (outside) between the door and the rock slider to keep feet from scuffing the paint?
Jason at Rock Stopperz is coming up with something!
Hi Matt, are you sure the hinges are steel? On my 2023 JL a magnet won't stick to the hinges. Just the steel bolts. Does this mean they are aluminum hinges? Is this galvanic corrosion between the hinge/door and the steel bolts instead of between the hinges and door panels? Is this just a problem with the 2018-2022 JL/JTs?
They are aluminum. Only the bed and body at the rear doors are steel on a JT Gladiator. Everything else is aluminum
Good question I’ll check mine too, don’t think it’s the bolt!
@@DIRTROADCRED
If that is the case, then is the corrosion from the two surfaces not being prepped before assembly? Or is the composition of the aluminum hinge slightly different from the body/door creating galvanic corrosion? Just trying to figure things out as I don't really want this to happen! 😂
My 2007 jk hinges are corroding. Thos has been an issue for a long time
Hello Matt, I enjoyed the video. I am currently experiencing the same issue and I am considering having a body shop paining the area where the hinge goes and the actual hinge. To avoid having the whole door painted and avoid expensive cost would you say it good alternative. Or maybe having them paint the panel and buying new hinges that won’t corrode.? Thank you
I’d get some new hinges and have the underside painted as well
Suggestions for replacement hinges that won't corrode?
I understand that this issue doesn’t bother some people but to me it’s a big deal. With how expensive Jeep Wranglers are this issue is unacceptable. I love my Wrangler but I will never buy another one unless I hear from Jeep themselves address and fix this issue. My 2018 JL Rubicon has corroded on all 4 doors and hood. My dealer, Bettenhausen Automotive in Illinois, was very familiar with the issue and did an excellent job fixing the issue. I’m thankful that everything went smoothly but, my rep has already told me that Wranglers come in multiple times with the same issue so the body shop isn’t a permanent fix. They will only cover the cost of repair for corrosion for the the first 5 years, So what am I supposed to do once the warranty expires?
Definitely hard to deal with, glad your dealer hooked you up!
Why in the world don’t they simply add a gasket in between the 2 parts from the factory?
They do. I think 2021 and newer
@@Michael_ryan91 I hope so!
From what I am hearing they have started
Is there anything that can be done when the Jeep is brand new? Such as putting rubber or something between the hinge and door. Though doing anything may actually void the warranty .
Great question
Wonder if installing those aftermarket hinges would help if it’s one of those aluminum ones.
It might help!
Did they implement a fix at the factory? If so, when?
If I buy a Gladiator would it be wise to be proactive by painting and installing a plastic or tape barrier?
There is a TSB for this issue!
For those experiencing a dealership refusing to deal with this, even under warranty, it's because Jeep does not pay the total cost to repair most of the time. When we sublet it to a bodyshop most will charge more then what Chrysler is going to pay for the repair, causing the dealer to eat the difference. At my dealership paint costs has gotten to a point where if you didn't buy it from us we're not going through the massive headache that is subletting and getting the claim paid. I'd suggest you take it to your selling dealer if possible for a higher chance of it getting fixed. Some dealerships may also have an in-house bodyshop so the sublet isn't an issue.
Spot on. I’m in the Boston area and all but one dealer have sworn off doing the repair work. Jeep totally ignored the issue, regardless of how many times you try. I love my Jeep, but the company is awful. That said, I think all car makers are scum.
This is an interesting point!
@@brianowens1002 What dealership in Boston WOULD do it??
@@loubonaparte5063 Brigham-gill, which is not a good dealer.
So they give you extended coverage but they won't do the work,..isn't that illegal?
From some recent research I found that Apparently like the JK the hinges on the JL are actually aluminum. So in that case it is not Galvanic Corrosion, just good old aluminum corrosion. However, even if it was, that is no reason that the door or hood edges are corroding with no dissimilar metals. That would be Metal prep.
Good call
But the bolts are probably not aluminum....and they touch both pieces acting like a wire in an electrical circuit
@@jenniferherod7580 then the corrosion would only be around the bolts. Not hinge and/or body panel.
I am in uncharted water here. I have a background in chemistry, not auto body. I do know that the longer that "circuit" is in place, the further the electrons can travel thru the aluminum. Trying improve my understanding of application.
8:11 Jeep should of made it right YEARS ago! I'm not spending $90K on a new vehicle and have it repainted because for whatever reason they can't get their engineers to come up with a solution to the root cause. I have $100K burning in my pocket and wanted a new Rubicon X but instead I'll get a Jaguar F-Pace.
Put a thin piece of film between the hinge and the door in the factory. Simple as that. If production cost is an issue I'd be happy to pay $5 extra for my 392.
Agreed!
I have that problem with my jeep Gladiator 2021 door hinges and the bottom on the tailgate have the same
Problem just went to the dealership for guarantee ro see if they do something to fix the problem 🤷🏼♂️
Hope they can!
I have thought about taking the hinges off, but am worried about the chipped paint that is going to come from taking them off.
True!
My 2011 Wrangler does not have this issue.....the 2020 Jeep I rented in St. John had this on all hinges.
Interesting!
Will JEEP address for a 2020 Rubicon that is our of the mileage warranty?
Not sure!
Would be nice to have this as an add on at dealership.
I was thinking the same!
An add-on? Why should I pay additional to correct a design and manufacturing flaw?
@@rtucker1004 Because you are going to pay either way. If it is done at the factory the cost of redoing the process will be added to every Jeep. Many people won’t keep their Jeep long enough to care about corroding hinges. Those that do, can add the cost to their Jeep at dealer and have it under warranty. Currently the only option is to try and find a good enough paint and body shop and pay for it out of pocket and hope they stand behind their work. Was it an oversight on Jeep? Absolutely. But extra work means extra cost no matter how you figure it.
Wasnt there a Jeep update that new JLs (since 2021) had a rubber gasket that was intalled between the aluminum doors and steel hinges so the dissimilar metals would not touch and not cause the corrosion? If not what about a gasket to prevent touching of metals?
From what I am hearing there might be, I’ll have to check mine
thanks for checking Matt...If there is not one... rubber gasket) there ought to be...to keep dissimilar metsls from touching but painting helps a lot as well love your channel keep it up
There is also a newish TSB that adds a zinc shim in between the hinge and door as part of the repair. I believe that began in March.
I had it happen after less the 2 years with a Jeep mostly kept in the garage. I went to 2 separate dealers, the first one just ghosted me once we went over the issues, the next said I was out of the paint warranty, and even though they we all know it is rush, Jeep won’t fix it since the rust is not exposed. I then called fca customer service and all they said was try another dealer… pretty poor all around
Definitely hard to work with!
Had chipping around my JK's hood hinges and I just assumed it was a jeep thing, but this is really annoying. Now I gotta go look at my JL's hinges. Oh Jeep. Lol
Haha!
Great post, but you failed to mention Jeeps position on the warranty of this manufacturer defect!!! Please update with that info
Does the 5 year outer panel corrosion warranty jeep has cover this?
Yes it should
Man I just noticed corrosion on the edges of my doors. For warranty do i have to leave the jeep at the dealer or can I just drop off my doors and stay doorless for a week while they fix it? Still within the 5yr/100k mile outside panel corrosion warranty
You would leave the whole jeep there more than likely!
My 2010 JKU hinges are experiencing this. I can barely open my driver side passenger door.
Sorry to hear!
Village Jeep (Ajax Ontario). Helped under corrosion warranty)
What’s the warranty? I bought my Jeep in the USA. Thanks
@@christopherscarlatos9891 60 months or 160000 kilometers.
This is a WELL known phenomenon and a design flaw that should be owned by Jeep. It just needs a thin rubber isolator “gasket”.
I think that would help!
Is it worth immediately unscrewing them and putting silicone or something between them and reattaching? Wax paper? Peanut butter perhaps.
Might not be a bad idea
Urse Dodge fairmont wv did a pretty good job dealing with it
They will only approve hinge paint one time after that you are on your own
Thanks Chase!
All jeep would need to do is install a barrier like a rubber sticker and then install the hinges. Just like what Teraflex has you install with there alpha HD hinged spare tire carrier.
Good point!
Hey Matt, so would the warranty cover hinges and doors for 3yr/36 or 5yr/100?
The corrosion warranty is 5 years, but this doesn’t fall under corrosion. Jeeps fine print says this would be cover under the basic 36k Mike warranty. Yes I realize this is total BS and doesn’t make sense
@@brianowens1002 thanks for the info.
5 year!
@@DIRTROADCRED it’s 3 years, read the fine print.
My 2022 Jeep Rubicon Xtreme hood now starts to corrode.
sorry to hear!
This is a stupid question but...can't they just make sure the metals aren't dissimilar? (i.e aluminum hinges to match the body).
There’s gotta be a solution
There is a solution and Porsche figured it out.
Currently have a cheap Wrangler Unlimited 2019 with only 35000 miles on it. The dealership said that the vehicle does have a Warranty on the paint. Even though there is a service built in ask mention in the video. Three dealerships have refused to repair my door hinges. I've also called Jeep to see if they can help me get this issue fixed. And they said that they cannot force a dealership to do anything that they don't want to do. And I have been nice and polite and not rude in anyway. Does anyone know what I can do?
Interesting!
There’s a legal remedy, but pursuing that remedy, and then enforcing it, costs a lot of money!
I want to no what to do about the loud noise when I hit bumps
I’d like to hear it