HELP! Ventilation Problem in My Shed! - Thrift Diving
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- I've been working on the insulation in my "she shed" and have been asking the question, "What is the best ventilation for my shed?" without a clear answer. I can't finish the insulation without knowing what the next step will be. So I need you to weigh in on what I should do. :)
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Soffit vents and two turbine on the roof. The gable vents do not move the air. The turbine vents start moving with convection and work well. Have a roofer put those turbines in. Don't mess with them yourself. There is soffit vinyl siding trim that you can put in after you put the holes in yourself. According to my drywall guy, don't skimp on your tools makes sure you have the three sizes. You have mudded small projects before, so you can do it again as it is just a larger project.
I would personally do double 2 in every other. Mud a tape is a skill but it's very easy if you practice. I was taught by my grandfather. So he put a piece of mesh tape on a poster board get frosting and a flat spackle tool. Lay the frosting until you feel comfortable. That way get the technique down.
Thank you, Cristina! We did taping and mudding in an Interior Finishing class for my carpentry degree and it really wasn't hard. It was just a small 3'x3' space for practicing and now a 16'x26' shed. :) But I feel confident I can rock it out. It's just a matter of timing, that's all. But I really do want to do it myself! So lucky your grandfather taught you. :)
So here in NZ we have inspectors for venting etc. I would either contact an inspector, or the companies that make the products, they should know thier product and what it can do.
I am currently working on all of the rooms in my home, I am doing the mudding myself, it is a learning curve, but once you try it, you'll enjoy it. My first room was the test, now I know what I'm doing, it's taking less time. Good luck Serina. Stay safe
Trust me, don't do any drywall! Put up wood sheathing, plywood, ship lap etc. It makes hanging tools and cabinets way easier and organizing a breeze!
Agreed. Drywall in a shop can be hard to work with. They are just too soft.
I've definitely had some people recommend putting up plywood instead so that I can literally hang anything anymore. While it would be more expensive, it definitely would be easier! I may still consider this! :) I appreciate your opinion on this!!
I second this
I’ve seen your skills in other videos - You can do the drywall yourself. Understand it will take time and there is a learning curve, but I did my entire basement which was over 1200 sq ft. There are plenty of videos out there to guide you through it. I have a similar, but smaller shed and it’s vented on both gable ends. My vents are roughly 2 “x 6” and I’ve never had ventilation issues. The vents in your video look like they can be scaled down somewhat; however, if you decide to keep those, try turning the vent sideways for better fitment. Also, go to lowes or menards and see how their sheds are vented. They usually have a bunch sitting out on the parking lot. Good luck. Keep up the good work.
Definitely you can do it,I did it all by my self I watch videos and I’m proud of my self,it’s intimidating but you can do it!
We're all cheering for you!
Aww, thanks, Melissa!
Im just a viewer who doesn’t understand anything that’s going on but I’m rooting for ya!! 😀👏👏👏
HAHAHA!! That's hilarious! But I love that you're hear and following along while I get through these bumps and bruises! LOL
I am stuck in the very same spot you are. I was told not to insulate up against the vapor barrier by my salesman. I was also told by someone that if I use house wrap on my walls that also has a vapor barrier on it, it was okay to insulate. We never discussed the roof. I'm thinking I'm going to go with foam insulation and cut vent holes on the underhang. I would also use the black spacers for ventilation just in case. And invest in a very good dehumidifier and put up roof vents.
Perfect timing on this video. I’ve been following your Tuff shed build, because I just built one as well. They were out today to install anchors for my inspection and asked about adding a 2x4 for installing insulation and drywall. The tech told me that insulating the radiant barrier roof would violate the warranty. He said not to insulate, because the radiate barrier will tramp in the heat and sweat. I reached out to the sales guy to confirm and waiting his response. Hopefully someone could answer both our concerns.
Ohhhh, I'm wanting to hear their response! I think what he may have been referring to is to NOT have the insulation directly up against the radiant barrier. Some people will put foam insulation boards along the roof as their type of insulation, particularly if they're vaulting the ceiling. But you're saying that they said NOT to insulate at all? I definitely want to hear what they have to say on that! Tuff Shed is usually so "hush-hush" about how to finish off the interior because they don't want to be liable for giving the wrong advice and being held responsible. When they installed my shed, I asked about how they recommend to finish the flooring and the builder said he literally can't tell me, because he's told not to give any advice on how to finish the inside. They shouldn't be so obscure about it. Maybe I should contact my sales guy and ask him to see what he recommends, too! I'll let you know what he says! :)
Any update on what they said?
@@sassilyyours I never received a response, so I insulated over the radiant barrier and drywalled it. I have a vent on one end to ventilate the space. We’ve had 100+ degree days in Dallas and I keep my mini-split set at 80, and it stays cool inside.
Re the soffit vents... I drilled many 1/2 holes along the length of my soffits . Then staple fine screen on the back to stop insects. It looks nice..
I was at the same place (stuck) where you are. I had vents but when I got drywall done. Im pretty sure they covered the vents with just insulation and then drywall. Which wasn't planning on doing ceiling until last minute.I'm frustrated. I told them it needed to have the airflow. They said they know what to do they done this before.
My husband says not to use the big gables it’s mostly for a crawl space attic so since it’s not a crawl space attic you have to individually use baffles AND go from the drip edge to the ceiling with the baffles. On the outside of the drip edge (outside) drill 2 inch holes and put mesh for insects etc. Go to the roof and cut the middle of shingles on the peak of the roof 2-4 inches all the way across and then put the roof gate across the roof top and then shingle cap the gates.
Hi Serena, I really like all your content on your shed build. Few questions for you.., how did you finally insulate/vent your roof? What type of unit for AC did you use? (I'm considering one of those portable units that you vent thru the wall)
Hi Selena 👋. Welcome back. Thank ❤ you
Thanks! I hate being gone for so long. :)
we did a electric exhaust fan wall mounted and roof vents and drop ceiling with 24x36 insulated tiles over time because it cost some bucks$
Which resources did you use to get information on ventilation? I have a 10x14 without ridge vent or any soffit vents. I want to finish it out into a small workshop.
I feel yah!! Having the same issue.
Anything I can help with?? :) I decided to go with 2" soffit vents with baffles!
Hi Serena, I was googling "how to ventilate inside shed walls" for my Tiny House. I want to tell you about my situation both as a heads-up for you, and perhaps as a way of finding out anything valuable you (or anyone else) may know about my problem. Sorry this is so long!
I have an 8' x 12' shed/Tiny House i have lived in for about 4 years now. Last summer i finally got around to putting the interior walls in... before that, i was looking at the stud framework and the inside of the T-111 siding. I used wool blankets, stapled into the wall studs halfway between the T-111 and where the interior walls would go, as insulation. (I love natural materials, and my climate is not extremely cold, so i think it's enough for the walls.) The problem was, just before putting on the walls, i found white mildew growing on the floor sills and a foot or two up the wall studs. I washed it off with peroxide, dried it thoroughly, and "painted" the wood there with tea-tree oil, an anti-fungal. Then i went ahead and put up the walls-- 1 x 6 planks.
In trying to prevent a recurrence of the mildew, i added a floor vent; i heat with a woodstove; i do not dry wet clothes in here; i am very careful about not letting pasta cook uncovered, steaming up the room, etc. I open the windows a lot (one low, one across the room in my loft) so the cross-breeze can carry the woodstove heat around and out the upper window. And i do think i've been successful keeping the interior dry. I see and smell no mold or mildew on the walls.
HOWever, major bummer just this weekend. My daughter, who has the nose of a bloodhound and can't stand mold, visited and insisted that she couldn't sleep on the sofa or really even be in here at all because of the disgusting mold smell, especially stronger as you get lower to the floor. Finally after a day of sniffing around she found it-- it was coming through the cracks between the wall planks! That is, the same place that had been mildewy before-- inside the walls-- was producing the smell again, and it's probably WORSE than it was, because it's closed up behind the interior walls now.
So now i am going to have to take all the furniture out again this summer; take the walling off; and address the mildew within the walls, both to make it safe and comfortable for people in here and to keep the place from rotting to death in a few years. My question, then, is similar to yours: how do i keep the air in the walls moving? I don't want something that runs on electricity. I would like passive vents to do the job. I am wondering about putting two soffit vents at the top of each 24" bay (not way up to where it feeds into the roof area; that's a separate matter, and i think it's under control because there is a gable vent at each end-- hidden above my ceiling material-- and being so high, with the wood heat, i am pretty sure it's dry in there)-- which wouldn't seem or look very odd, though it would be about 2 dozen soffit vents each long side, etc.-- a lot of time but i can do it. What i wonder about is whether putting vents at the bottom of each bay would be advisable. It seems so-- to keep air actually moving up through each wall bay as it warms. I was picturing one or two little soffit vents to the outside down just above the floor sills.
Two problems i see with that, though: One, it would totally defeat the idea of insulation to let outdoor air into the wall, then encourage it to fly out the top, carrying the house's warmth with it; two, there are 2 x 4 blocks/braces across the framing about halfway up each wall, between the studs, not to mention the window framing every foot or two around the room/shed/cabin. So the air would not be able to get around those framing barriers (unless i drilled big holes through the blocks, though i couldn't do that with the window framing) and the only way the plan could work would be to put soffit vents everywhere-- at the top and bottom of each uninterrupted space inside each wall. I would be the soffit vent queen-- i would have to put hundreds of them in!
SO Serena, you see i recognize your mood of frustration about this. I cannot find answers, so far, by Googling. No idea i can come up with makes good sense. Yet i know i must do something, and want to warn you that you might need to, too, to prevent moisture damage inside the walls where you can't even see it. (The weird thing is that it's not as if i live in Florida or in some humid back-east climate, though we do get a lot of rain here.) Even if the interior of your house seems bone dry and you don't have any mold behind your furniture or down near the floor in a closet area, you might have it in the walls-- unless you make moves to prevent it now.
We insulated our shed with rockwool. Temperature outside got to 32 and I had a small heater inside and it kept the temperature inside about 60 degrees. I then attempted to do some plumbing and removed the insulation to find behind it the wall was soaking wet. You may find the same thing.
Did you use a vapor barrier?
I’m having the same issue, but my roof has no overhang. Can’t tell is there’s venting at the roof center or not
Fret not Homie!! All I can tell you is what worked in my buddies shed. He added 2 gable vents. One on each side. It's now 10+ years later & no issues that we know off. He though about adding soffit vents but, it was way more work than he wanted to take on after the 9 months it had taken us to build the dang thing.... We can't all be on BeastMode like Serena!! LOL!! Hoping all is well, Dirty Jersey out!!
Hello, I am new to your channel and have found your content very useful. I have a very big problem which requires someone with expert skills. I recently bought an old house and have been working for many months to clean and kill mold and Mildew. I have been able to move in while continuing my renovation projects. My issue is the landscaping. The house is on a piece of property with unusual contours and dimensions. I am in an area away from the big city and need someone to recommend how to layout the landscape of my property. Are you able to advise on landscaping? Best wishes.
CAN YOU ASK YOUR COUNTY DEPT OF BUILDINGS ANSD THIER CONTRACTORS?
If you know a contractor/friend that works extensively on houses, they maybe the best person to get advice from because they build structures of a similar nature on a regular basis. They would know the ins and outs better.
You can cut them from aluminum sheets or treated wood! (Custom vents)
Drill air holes in the sheathing/osb. If you already have the ridge vent putting in soffit vents is the way to go.
This is the solution that feels the most common sense, like you said, because I already have a ridge vent. A ridge vent with soffit vents is ideal! The air holes is a GREAT solution! I'm excited to get it done! :) Thank you!
@@ThriftDiving if you already have a ridge vent it would not be a good idea to also install gable vents. Ridge vents work better with soffit vents. Gable vents will disrupt the air flow in your attic with ridge venting.
Can't you put vents in the bottom of the shed like you would do in a brick building like an air brick but vents around the bottom or just open the windows vent 😃 just a thought Serena u looking great Best wishes. Phil 👍🙏
There is eave vents, and then there is new GAF vents that are part of the room. You would want to avoid the gable if you have ridge vent. Right where you pointed you would cut that out. Use Earos vent since they have a 119 NFA and keep bugs out and rodents.
Why don't you add 4 gable vents on either side of the peaks and place them horizontally???
That's one big shed gurl dayum lol but no drywall sheathing or ship lap n u have ridge venting not much overhangs so go with the gable vents for venting n a nice look you got this baby gurl, wish was closer ide help you for free and laughter..✊🏾💪🏾😎
As a licensed contractor, you should sub out the drywall and taping, also the sanding of the seams. You do not want to have poorly installed
sanded seams. if it's not done right you will not be happy at all. Let the experts do that portion ( drywall & taping & sanding )and save yourself for more areas of the project yet to be completed.
I appreciate this, Derrick! I've considered that myself, that if my seams are wonky, it will irritate me. However, if I do it myself, I definitely plan to use the right tools and may even bribe my carpentry instructor over to get me started properly! LOL
@@ThriftDiving That's sound like a good plan to have someone a lil more seasoned to get you started properly, Particularly for the overhead drywall work. Yes, you can look at 100 + videos, but to have someone more skilled is valuable. Especially sense the end results will be seen by many. And yes, I really do think your building is really nice and fits well on your property. Keep up the good work:-)
Serena, OF COURSE YOU CAN DO THE DRYWALL AND MUD AND TAPE YOURSELF. You are a fierce woman and the question should be what makes you think you can’t do it rather than can I do it. Look at all you’ve achieved when others have said you can’t (all those electrical ‘experts’ in the comments for example. Regarding the roof venting issue, can you speak to your shed company and get their opinion? Or another shed or roofing company? If get conflicting opinions maybe there isn’t just one way? YOU GO GIRL,!
I can do a lot, but never drywall! I don’t know why. I’m just bad at it. So for me, I would hire it out.
I know this is a year ago but I’m struggling with this right now! It’s so confusing!😂🥰
No worries quality takes time.
Why is the house wrap on the inside of the wall?
Just use 2 small gable vents on each end, what would be the problem with that? Just offset them from exact center, it would look fine.
Hope you can contact the sales person or your installation crew for your answers. They should assist you is your process.
You can drill and install the soffit vents in each bay, install your troughs.
Then go and get a 8x12" gable vents and install on each side. Youll have to cut it but dont be worried.
Then insulate it.
Drywall, anyone can hang rock but mudding is a skill. Ive done it but its a task I sub regardless now. A good rocker makes a mudders life easier. Many drywall people prefer the entire job and will bill higher for mud only if you rock it so be aware.
I would have guessed 4k for the job so thats honestly not horrible.
Thank you, Matt!! I appreciate this insight!
Miss Serena I personally would rather use plywood verses drywall. Drywall can easily become damaged if you accidentally hit the wall with something.
If you have a vented ridge do not install the gable vents.. You are wanting to use the convection from the soffit to the ridge.. How close is the sheeting to the foam on the inside of the roof? They also make pretty much a piece of cardboard that goes right in the corner of the wall and roof that maintains an air gap once you install the ceiling insulation.. You don't really need to do it all the way up to the ridge.. I need to think about the vents in the soffit a little more though.. A bunch of them may be an eye sore.
I don’t have a ridge vent - should I have some kind of gable vent?
@@RobC0313 ideally you would have some way for the trapped heat to escape from under the roof.. But sheds are not built to home specs, so not surprising..
Hey Steven!
If you don’t mind answering a couple of questions off the record, then I could use a bit of advice myself. To keep it brief, I just built a 12’x24’ shed with lean-to roof. The interior will remain unfinished as it will just be used as a basic home gym. The exterior will be fully sealed off and finished with soffit, fascia, caulk and paint, etc. Would it be more efficient to vent from the side walls to a gable vent at the high side? Or to vent from low-side soffit to the high side with more soffit or gable vent?
I hope this makes sense and I appreciate your time and thought behind this. =)
My opinion would be put about three of those round vents in each eve then take a 1” paddle bit and drill 3 holes at each vent and your all good now an additional thought is if your going doing painting in your shed consider an exhaust fan that’s rated for your square footage because now is the time to wire it and install it just my two cents ps. If you’re able to afford the drywall and tape and bedding to contractor you would not regret it also I would try to have the same contractor to do both and my additional opinion is no money exchanges hands until your satisfaction
Good point on the exhaust fan! I do have a roofing company that is coming to repair a small leak in my roof on the HOUSE. I could ask them to provide a quote on what an exhaust fan would cost. Someone even recommended a vent fan that works off of solar. Now THAT would be cool!
What about putting vent in the ceiling, like they do on the Rvs.Dont really know,just suggesting.
There is a ridge vent in the roof, which runs along the entire length of the roof. From what I have learned, a ridge vent on its own does nothing unless there is a flow of air, which works best with soffit vents to pull that fresh, cooler air from outside and out through the ridge vent.
Why don't you use a hole saw to place your round vents?
What about a turbine vent?
$3500 is good if materials and labor is included. Drywall Drywalling is a punishment you do not want. Add a fine screen to the inside after drilling the two inch holes (2 per void) . Your shed looks awesome also ensure the drywall quote is for the thickest drywall.... more forgiving to bumps from equipment and materials
I wish I could offer an educated answer/suggestion! However I believe between this video, suggestions given, your research the right skilled person (s) will contact you! I know you want to do it properly to avoid issues down the road!
Yesss, Theresa! My concern is that I'll choose something that compromises the shed down the road and that causes rotting or mold or something equally terrible. But I think any option I choose will be better than NO ventilation! :)
@@ThriftDiving absolutely I totally understand!
Make custom vents, it's pretty easy! Make 2 smaller vent on each side!
I'm not certain about the venting, but I suspect just dong the gable vents would be sufficient based on construction I've seen (and my own house's construction)
but for the drywalling, I learned the hard way when I was a child, and I learned to hate it. but, after watching a lot of videos from Paul Peck DrywallTube I've realized that it can be a LOT easier than I thought, and now I just dislike it because of the mess (I always end up doing it in a finished house yuck)
This a rabbit hole: so are you doing a conditioned or vented attic space, I personally would do a conditioned space, meaning taking the thermal barrier to roof sheeting vise the ceiling. If you are doing a conditioned space you don’t need exterior venting. Yes, it may increase the possibility of moisture depending how tight the building is, where you are in the country and if you didn’t put a barrier under the shed you may have to mitigate that. If you decide to vent, run soffit channels up the bays, stop short about a 1 to 2 feet from ridge line, creat ceiling cavity along length of ceiling when drywalling, install roof edge vent or gable vents, I prefer full length ridge vent. The reason I prefer a complete conditioned space is that it makes a much more efficient building, granted this is shed, but if your going cool and heat a conditioned space it will cost you less in long run vice a vented. Good luck.
I’m having similar issue. I don’t have any vents and I was thinking about adding gable vents and closing off a tiny attic type space. But if I’m understanding you, I should just leave the ceiling as is with the radiant showing and just insular the walls and heat and cool the shed.
Do the double vents and yes you can dry wall youself
Ok, cool, you're voting for the gable vents! :) Thank you! And I soooo want to do the drywall myself. Feels like I would be CHEATING to pay someone to do it for me, even though I know that I'm behind schedule with getting the shed's interior finishing done!
Try a solar or electric ventilation fan. Solar energy is free powder. Electrical power is inside your shed. Hope these ideas are not late. Keith
I used wood sheeting instead of drywall.
Turn the gable vent sideways and it will work
Closed cell spray foam, no soffit vents needed
If you look at uthe pre fab she's .you will mow what to do .
When are you going to do more videos
I know!! So sorry I've been slow to put out the next video! I was consumed with doing the insulation and now that it's done, I'm editing that as we speak!
I think we might confused what you want to ventilate here. For your room, I don't think you need passive ventilation, as long as you have vaper barrier and an exhaust fan. For the roof/attic, if you insolate right at your roof desk, then you don't need ventilation, attic will be in the same air seal space as your shed. Maybe that is easier in our case. Good luck.
There is definitely a vapor barrier going over the insulation that will be in the walls and ceiling. I won't be insulating the roof deck, only between the trusses at the peak where the drywall will be installed. So there will be space above the insulation that will need some airflow out of the ridge vent. That's why the soffit vents will likely be best. But you are correct that if I WERE adding insulation directly to the underside of the roof, then there wouldn't be a need for ventilation.
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You're the first DIY person to point out how much conflicting information there is online. One person says this, another says that-it's so frustrating! You'd think we were building a battleship, but no one can give a straight answer. And don't even get me started on asking for help at Lowe's or Home Depot. They're run by high school students who give terrible advice.
So, you end up spending hours online thinking, "Oh my God, this is taking forever. We're just building a shed!" Why aren't sheds insulated from the start? Who wants to be in a 150-degree shed? It's like they don't realize insulation or a reflective barrier would be helpful.
Sheds are useless in the summer. The only ones who benefit are the rabbits with their condo underneath. I definitely want to put mine on a cement foundation. Putting it on grass invites snakes, rabbits, and digging dogs-so annoying.
Well, good luck yours looks like mansion It looks beautiful.
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Woohoo, thank you!!
Go to You Tube channel home reno vision DIY. I think that is the name. He's a Canadian guy that has a huge number of subscribers. Has live streams where people call in. I'm sure he knows what to do.
Don't do the drywall yourself, trust me, save yourself a headache and use the extra time in something you enjoy more, those 3400-800 quotations are waaaauy to expensive
dry wall is an art? really? tape and mud and sanding . . . hard work maybe. But you being you, will be an excellent dry waller and then save a bundle. Yeh. You should do it yourself.
Awww, thank you! But yes, people are telling me it's an art to being able to get a super smooth finish, and I believe them. Meaning, it's easy to mess up. But yes, knowing me, I would take my time, take a crap long time to do it, and make it as perfectly imperfect as I can! LOL :)
@@ThriftDiving I suspect that when you've completed the drywall, you will be an "expert" in the art of drywall.
I hope you ended up doing the taping and mudding yourself. It does take paying attention and taking your time to do it right but it is for sure within the range of skills for someone who has built there own studio to the extent that you have.
Those saying, "its an art" are kinda inflating their own ego IMO. Yes, like any building skill it takes time and a good eye to do it right but its no more of an art then most finishing skills
This is NO shed! It's starting to resemble a Nursing Home.
Migrating is something else these days