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Комментарии • 103

  • @johnclibbens6803
    @johnclibbens6803 Год назад +76

    It’s not about rugby, it’s about the class struggle…

  • @fredbloggs4896
    @fredbloggs4896 Год назад +10

    “I’m still a mod, I’ll always be a mod, you can bury me a mod.”
    - Paul Weller

  • @jonlight670
    @jonlight670 Год назад +20

    Song is about class struggles.
    Paul Weller is from Woking, which is near Windsor (As in where the King lives) the opposite side of the river is Eton. Eton school is one of the most posh/ expensive schools in the UK. Prince William & many UK Prime Ministers & world leaders went there! They say World War 1 was fought on the playing fields of Eton.
    The other town mentioned Slough, At the start. is also nearby and where the UK Office TV show is set!

    • @srodgers66
      @srodgers66 Год назад +4

      As Jonathan Pie says, Eton College is Hogwarts for wankers.

  • @mst1740
    @mst1740 Год назад +17

    That's how Mods dressed back then.

  • @davidmacgregor5193
    @davidmacgregor5193 8 месяцев назад +8

    The Jam weren't a British Punk Rock band, they were part of the late 1970's, early 1980's Mod Revival Movement, other Mod Revival bands were, The Style Council, The Look, The Clique, The Inmates, Secret Affair, The Lambrettas and The Chords. "Eton Rifles" is about the lifestyle struggle between the haves and the have nots, the rich versus the poor. Punks dressed down, Mods dressed up and rode Italian motor scooters such as Lambretta and Vespa.

  • @sumo1756
    @sumo1756 Год назад +11

    This was about the cadets at Eton being taught how to fire guns when the country was getting poorer, the class wars badically. The Jam pretty much summed up working class Britain at that time. Weller usually nailed it with his writing. Thanks guys👊

    • @neilhumphrey4197
      @neilhumphrey4197 8 месяцев назад

      Its nothing to do with cadets its about a fight jam and private school boys Eton some had to go to court over it listen to the words how do I know I was there enough said

  • @gerardmccavana4905
    @gerardmccavana4905 Год назад +13

    This is such a strong song. Musically brilliant...lyrically brilliant. Sharp and biting. The Jam were just thee group.

  • @alanstrom2221
    @alanstrom2221 Год назад +10

    "What chance have we got against a tie and a crest."
    Eton is the most elite private education institute in the UK.
    Working class v Upper class.
    In relation to the Drummer's clothes, it's an ironic statement, because the Band is very anti-establishment and the clothes are not.
    Ska Bands like The Specials were very progressive Left-Wing politically and they wore suits as well.
    The Jam didn't get commercial airplay in Australia until 1982's album THE GIFT.
    By 1982 you could hear THE STYLE COUNCIL sound creeping into The Jam's music.
    The Jam disbanded in 1982.
    I think my favourite Jam song is "Down in the Tube station at Midnight"
    Some lyrics from that great song are.......
    "The smell of brown leather, it blended in with the Weather"
    "I first felt a fist
    And then a kick, I could now smell their breath
    They smelt of pubs and Wormwood Scrubs
    And too many right-wing meetings"
    The Jam have got 30 great songs to do a REACTION to.

  • @iainrees1171
    @iainrees1171 Год назад +16

    Ummm The Jam were not Punks ! Weller is the Mod God ! Utterly brilliant band, anything Weller touched was gold, Style Council also a great band.

    • @sp0ngeb00b7
      @sp0ngeb00b7 11 месяцев назад +1

      As someone who didn't grow up in the era of mod but has a strong love for mod and many breeds of punk, I (politely ofc!) must ask, why people feel the need to clarify a difference/what would you say the difference is? Mod is very similar, sonically, to classic 70s punk, and many of its big songs are politically charged with a left-leaning/punk ethos... To me, mod is just advanced punk, and IMO the prototype of what would later be called pop punk... is it just a classification based on the era and country of origin? Because a Jam song released today would be an emo kid anthem😅

  • @PUNKinDRUBLIC72
    @PUNKinDRUBLIC72 Год назад +8

    They're mods not punks!

  • @Bob-pu2bu
    @Bob-pu2bu Год назад +9

    They are MOD's not Punk

  • @jono.pom-downunder
    @jono.pom-downunder Год назад +4

    The class warfare struggles of the 80s the haves and have nots. The soundtrack to us 80s kids lives.

  • @ianclarke5404
    @ianclarke5404 Год назад +4

    Or as my dear old dad used to sing
    " Eating trifles eating trifles "🎶

    • @blackcountryme
      @blackcountryme 4 месяца назад +2

      Me and my sister used to sing it, snd my big brother who's record it was would hit us😂

  • @Crinno74
    @Crinno74 Год назад +4

    They weren’t punk at this time. They started as punk but by 78-80 they were the leaders of the Mod Revival era of a British Bands like Secret Affair, Squire, The Chords, Lambrettas.

    • @johndonson1603
      @johndonson1603 11 месяцев назад

      Love Secret Affair , Time for Action is a classic .

  • @markbrown4127
    @markbrown4127 Год назад +4

    It's not punk. It's mod. That's they're dressed sharp. Back in the late seventies there was punk, mod, skinheads and bikers. All hating each other (or pretending to) . I was and still am a biker, but I liked the Jam even then. I just kept it to myself lol. Try googling Mods VS Rockers , might find some interesting stuff to react to.

  • @245bennyboy
    @245bennyboy Год назад +4

    Kid Jenson introducing it so even before it got to the end I knew it was Top Of The Pops which unfortunately back then meant all the artists were miming. There isn't enough money in the World to pay Paul Weller to mime these days. Fantastic band and fantastic song but I hate miming

  • @markjakeway2035
    @markjakeway2035 Год назад +1

    Also about a true event. Locals thought they could take on the school 'kids' from Eton thinking it would be an easy fight as they were all 'upper class twits'. But of course at Eton they have the Combined Cadet Force, know as the Eton rifles, who teach their students how to prepare for the army so it was not an easy fight and as the songs says, the locals got the worst of it - ' we came out of it naturally the worst, beaten and bloody and I was sick down my shirt.'

  • @davidsweeney4021
    @davidsweeney4021 Год назад +1

    "Liza Radley", "That's Entertainment" and "A Town called Malice" are probably my top 3 but it could change. Sorry forgot "Going Underground" & "Smithers Jones" so top 5.

  • @bryanforis1839
    @bryanforis1839 Год назад +1

    Good music sounds great live band stage show

  • @MercuryCircuit
    @MercuryCircuit Месяц назад

    It's about the Class struggle in England during the time period :)

  • @AMan-zt8tz
    @AMan-zt8tz Год назад

    That was the fashion of the 'Mod' who were the typical Jam fan, regarding the drummer.

  • @dianebrown8046
    @dianebrown8046 Год назад

    LOVE the reaction, I had UNREAL R&R life I'll be 65 tomorrow & Hope you don't mind Overshare!! ( most between 78 & 84...&&& Have to Thank Tina Weymouth of Talking Heads for it...was on concert committee at Penn State in 78..sat with & talked about 15 mins mostly about Art, at end she said Love your dress ( it had Lots of Zippers & BIG shoulder pads) I said Thanks I made it,I do costumes for Drama Dept here too...She said Maybe instead of going for BFA in Sculpture you should design clothes...SORRY for LONG Overshare.../But this post reminded me of meeting The Jam in 81?82? place called Emerald City in N.J.( promoter I knew also managed some bands I made clothes for)...met before concert,& they were pretty much quiet...biggest LOL Bassist Bruce Foxton saying " I've Never seen so much Fucking Neon!!"...the club had Neon sculpture all over....Again Hope you don't mind Old Lady's Overshare..

  • @Poppygirl64
    @Poppygirl64 3 месяца назад

    They were not punk rock they were more MOD revival. Its about a clash between working class guys and some posh kids from Eaton. I love the way he parodies the posh kids by saying 'hey ho' lol Great song from my day.

  • @daviddeath6029
    @daviddeath6029 Год назад +7

    Because they dressed like mods not punks and they are not really punk more a thinking man's sort of punk hybrid.

  • @MyMusic-cd3do
    @MyMusic-cd3do 6 месяцев назад

    In an interview Paul said that he saw striking workers on a march and when they marched passed Eton school (I think it was, could've been somewhere else) he saw the student mocking and jeering the protesters. So, it's essentially a song about class struggles and inequality.

  • @rialobran
    @rialobran Год назад

    Eton is best known for its school which is in itself best known for producing prime ministers, politicians and the elite. This song is about the class struggle, the ordinary man and woman against the elite, especially those from Eton. Boris Johnson is a prime example of what comes out of that school...
    The drummer was representing Eton, the elite, hence the suit and tie.
    Whilst The Jam were in no way considered a Punk band, they weren't despised by Punks (like myself) because lyrically they were what being a Punk was all about.

  • @notanotherenigma7759
    @notanotherenigma7759 Год назад

    Great song, but it didnt get a lot of airplay in Sydney, Aust where i lived at that time. Singer (Paul Weller) went on to sing for smooth band The Style Council.

  • @Ryker45
    @Ryker45 4 месяца назад

    Its nice to see your enthusiasm for the Jam, but first off, they wern't punks, Joe Strummer mocked them in "White Man in Hammersmith Palaise. The Jam started a revival of the Mod movement, which is about being smart and savvy in a working class world. Eton rifles is about Eton School, an exclusive boarding school for rich kids who at that time regarded ordinary kids as oiks. Wellar grew up in Woking which is near Eton. David Cameron and Boris Johnson went to that school at the same time. Funnily enough David Cameron said it was his favorite Jam song and Wellar's surprised reaction was, what did he not understand about the lyrics. Also Eton had its own little military faction and they did have Rifles for thier little soildiers

  • @jaccilowe3842
    @jaccilowe3842 4 месяца назад

    They are Mods. Paul Weller is known as the Modfather.

  • @daviehudson4270
    @daviehudson4270 Год назад +1

    Bruce Foxton wearing the Jam shoes … I had the red white and blue ones

  • @Grumpyoldman782
    @Grumpyoldman782 10 месяцев назад

    Hi guys, seeing your reactions to The Jam, You would probably like the group Squeeze as well. Squeeze "is that love" is a good starting point....have fun

  • @jameskellard5075
    @jameskellard5075 2 месяца назад

    MOD, MOD, MOD! It was the class struggle rich kids verses rich kids and the almost endless violence of life back then. Happy days in some ways and then we joined the army

  • @davecopley4953
    @davecopley4953 6 месяцев назад

    Just to confirm it’s about society class and there not a punk group the jam are a MOD group which was a movement of people started in the 1960s watch a film called quadrophenia which has some massive names in including sting and Toya wicox

  • @MrMarkjames67
    @MrMarkjames67 Год назад

    Eton is a posh school in England where all the Tory PMs come from.The song is about class struggle in Britain.

  • @jm9123
    @jm9123 11 месяцев назад

    To answer your question about the drummer being so 'proper' - his name is Rick Buckler but he sometimes confuses it for Butler which is why he dresses like one.

  • @daviddring2365
    @daviddring2365 Год назад

    They were a mod band ...... punk ethos maybe ..... But they were heavily influenced by the 60s mod movement! If you look closely you can see stickers about Carnaby St etc, on his guitar

  • @bryanelrick9318
    @bryanelrick9318 Год назад

    It's about a right to work march that passed by eton college and where mocked by the upper class students, also not punk, they where new wave, and also lol suited up because they where mods

  • @PhilipClare
    @PhilipClare Год назад +1

    They're not Punks, but Mods!

  • @robsmith8024
    @robsmith8024 Год назад

    “What chance have you got against a tie and a crest” in other words the “establishment”, many of whom came from Eaton Public school for the very privileged

  • @sukottora
    @sukottora 20 дней назад

    Eton Rifles is about a Rugby Club?? Does he also think that U2's Sunday Bloody Sunday is about not wanting the weekend to end?

  • @ghichens3418
    @ghichens3418 Год назад +1

    Good day ! my Ansomes ! this aint punk rock ! tis retro 60s new wave ! chow !

  • @gordi40
    @gordi40 Год назад +1

    Do you read any of the comments? They were not punks!

  • @glastonbury4304
    @glastonbury4304 Год назад

    This makes reference to England's elite college, Eton. It is a song about class warfare, with lines like, "What chance do you have against a tie and a crest." ....Eton Rifles are a cadet corp of Eton college where the UK's political elite come from....nothing to do with Rugby, plus they are MOD's not Punk , you need to do more research on music genres guys!!

  • @jonfethers7608
    @jonfethers7608 Год назад

    No Punks, the start of the cross over from punk to Mod

  • @StephenWoodhouse-t9t
    @StephenWoodhouse-t9t 2 месяца назад

    U need to get to the uk

  • @poneke2
    @poneke2 Год назад

    I love it when people get the song completely wrong RUGBY !!!! 😂😂😂😂

  • @Jonathan-Sund
    @Jonathan-Sund Год назад +1

    Definitely not punk, but still awesome.

  • @jackthelad5366
    @jackthelad5366 Год назад +2

    About a rugby club ? Don’t think so pal 😂

  • @iandavies6575
    @iandavies6575 Год назад +3

    The Jam weren't punk rock

  • @peter-h8s2z
    @peter-h8s2z 5 месяцев назад

    Nonsense ! Eton is a very expensive private school in England which has produced many politicians. This is about an imginary conflict between the common lads and the Eton pupils. A social comment on class differences.

  • @tonyfromfrance5595
    @tonyfromfrance5595 Год назад

    They are not Punk, they are MODS its totally different.

  • @charliegeorge9393
    @charliegeorge9393 Год назад +2

    Sadly the guy that supplied this song is talking utter rubbish

    • @glastonbury4304
      @glastonbury4304 Год назад

      Totally agree, the guy who supplied this must of got hit on the head a few too many times!!!!

  • @MrGemmasteve
    @MrGemmasteve Год назад +1

    The jam was part of the mod revival in the late 79s early 80s it’s a political song about class inspired about a right to work March as they marched past Eaton all the Toffs come out to abuse the marchers the jam is most definitely not a punk band they were Mods

  • @Getoffmylawn9
    @Getoffmylawn9 Год назад

    They're not punk they're mods there's a massive difference

  • @tonykichenside8443
    @tonykichenside8443 Год назад

    Because they where a British Mod band,dress smart play brilliant music

  • @jimmccaul1
    @jimmccaul1 Год назад

    The Jam were never punk, they were Mod /new wave..Paul Weller was known as The Modfather..

  • @susansalt1965
    @susansalt1965 Год назад

    It’s not punk. It’s Mod.

  • @TrevorSmith-kq3bq
    @TrevorSmith-kq3bq Месяц назад

    The jam was not a punk band they were mods that's while you see them suited up

  • @timholder6825
    @timholder6825 Год назад +5

    Ok, the lyrics are extremely political. I'll try to keep the explanation as brief as possible. Background. In the 1930's, during the depression, unemployed ship workers from the shipyards of Tyneside (NE England) marched to London to petition the government, who were ignoring their plight, for work/jobs. This was called the Jarrow Crusade and is a very famous political/historical landmark here. Fast forward 50 years (1980's) and Britain is in that situation again under the uncaring right wing Margaret Thatcher government. So several groups of unemployed workers in the north (hardest hit) decided to recreate the march. As they got near to London they passed through Slough, Berkshire, where Eton College is situated. Eton is most exclusive private school in England for the children of the wealthiest and most privileged. Both David Cameron (former Prime Minister) and, Boris Johnson (a sacked and ousted in disgrace former Prime Minister) are both ex alumni and both would have been pupils at Eton College at that time. As the march passed through, the students came out of the school and started taunting, insulting and throwing stones at the marchers. Fights broke out, a riot ensued. When the police arrived the Eton boys ran back in to the college and safety. The working class marchers were given the blame, many were arrested and they were portrayed in the right wing dominated media as hooligans and scum. This song tells the story of that event

    • @normandavidtidiman9918
      @normandavidtidiman9918 Год назад +1

      Yours is a highly inaccurate version of events. Firstly,it was June 1978,almost a whole year before the Conservatives were elected under Thatcher. In actuality, it was the Labour Government of Jim Callaghan and his 'winter of discontent' to come that was causing mass unemployment. The Tories rode on a campaign of 'Labour isn't Working',with posters of lines of unemployed people (a million at the time).
      Secondly, it wasn't anything to do with the Jarrow march, but a Socialist Workers Party organised 'Right to Work' march that provocatively went past the Eton Collage. There, the protesters handed over a giant (fake) silver spoon to the head boy,who retorted with "I hope your jolly campaign gets you somewhere" (all reported in the Socialist Workers newspaper in June 1978).
      Thirdly, there wasn't ANY riot whatsoever, only some jeering from the Etonions. Weller himself saw coverage of this on TV,"I just thought what a great fucking image it was.” (Quoted in Uncut magazine 2016). So that took the basis of the song. No riots,no nasty Tory Government, no Mrs T,a Labour Government causing mass unemployment as usual and an even more extreme left wing party protesting about it.

    • @jeff110373
      @jeff110373 Год назад

      ​@@normandavidtidiman9918well said. But what do you expect of a Socialist but to lie and rewrite history. Eton was 1 of the places i believe still had their pupil train in military exercises like trian with rifles. But probably was from a time well before that and was just a catchy phrase. Weller went from being Conservative to being USED BY THE COMMIE SOCIALISTS WHICH HE said was a big mistake on his part. Being the SO CALLED VOICE OF A GENERATION AND being taljed into fund shows with speakers like Kinnock and Foot. Bit like the other idiots in the 90s Brit Pop bands _Noel Gallagher) used by Blair and Labor.

    • @jeff110373
      @jeff110373 Год назад

      If it was just a mistake for the inaccuracies then apologizes for saying your a liar. But you're def a socialist lmao

    • @karmannghiaman1041
      @karmannghiaman1041 Год назад

      ​@@normandavidtidiman9918you were doing so well until your nonsense at the end, Blair didn't cause mass unemployment but he certainly inherited a broken pile of Tory shite, just like Starmer will next year.

  • @neilhumphrey4197
    @neilhumphrey4197 7 месяцев назад

    Its nothing to do about rugby it's when the jam got in a fight with students from Eton school and had to go court listen to the words you might say how do I know Betty simple I was there

  • @martinashford3107
    @martinashford3107 Месяц назад

    Very sorry but how are you qualified to comment..?

  • @Sharkey817
    @Sharkey817 Месяц назад

    There Mods, not Punk

  • @ianclarke5404
    @ianclarke5404 Год назад

    They're mods

  • @davecroad6277
    @davecroad6277 8 месяцев назад

    The jam where a mod band they are not playing punk music that's why they wear suits and ties the sex pistols where punk

  • @jamesdreynolds3690
    @jamesdreynolds3690 Год назад

    Not punks they were mods

  • @jock2109
    @jock2109 Год назад +1

    Rugby is a school for public school boys fur the privileged (like Eton and Cambridge ) it has nothing to do with Rugby 🏉

    • @adamsmithhobbs4702
      @adamsmithhobbs4702 Год назад

      Rugby school has nothing to do with Rugby? Or do you mean the song?

    • @jock2109
      @jock2109 Год назад

      @@adamsmithhobbs4702 the song has nothing to do with the sport Rugby it’s about Rugby the school

  • @jonassundell9366
    @jonassundell9366 Год назад

    Its political... did you lot facy it? Anyways, cheers from Gothenburg Sweden. Take care and keep on reacting u2. Hugs.

  • @ianjohn9529
    @ianjohn9529 6 месяцев назад

    Mods not punk 🧿

  • @VonLigenstein
    @VonLigenstein 10 месяцев назад

    PUNK? WTF if this is punk the next thing your are going to tell me is The Cure, The Smith, Sexy are pubkj as well No they are Alternative... New Wave... Just Because The Jam sings about THE NEWS OF THE , MODERN WORLD * ( Actual names of The Jam Song;s) Check out Funeral Pyre for drum and Bass.... Love Cats by The Cure has nice Bass...and for the Smiths... Shoot brainf fart orgot the song.... The Clash's Guns of Brixton has nice Bass... Dang Cant remember those sith songs....
    LMFAO The Jam PUNK... That wuld be like saying Rammstein is punk too... LMFAO.. ;)

  • @bmike100
    @bmike100 Месяц назад

    A song about a rugby club? Must be a joke I guess but I don't get it

  • @stevehessle1959
    @stevehessle1959 Год назад +1

    Mods, not Punks!!! Not anyt to do with Rugby at all. Eton is a school for the rich and has an army cadet attachment to prepare upper class village idiots for military careers. They have rifles on the school site. It's a class war song.

  • @jamesdreynolds3690
    @jamesdreynolds3690 Год назад

    There mods not punks

  • @paulgee1952
    @paulgee1952 Год назад

    This is not Punk. Punk is about extreme Liberal Anarchy . It is about class struggle and the death of socialism in British values , crushed under Thatcher and Regan economics. Still relevant. Mods not Punk Rockers ! Ffs !!

  • @johndonson1603
    @johndonson1603 11 месяцев назад

    Punk ??

  • @CarlBrowitt-ye8uo
    @CarlBrowitt-ye8uo 11 месяцев назад

    Not punk,,,,,mods.

  • @martinlancaster8791
    @martinlancaster8791 Год назад

    Seems to me that you know nothing about the Jam or Paul Weller nor do you have a clue about the meaning of Eton rifles nor the UK punk scene in the 70's 80's

  • @charlesbull6188
    @charlesbull6188 8 месяцев назад

    You yanks lost your chance of the jam you missed out

  • @Suedehead68
    @Suedehead68 Год назад

    1:10 Rugby Club!!!- didn't watch the rest. Rubbish.

  • @PhD_Author
    @PhD_Author 6 месяцев назад

    This is not punk.

  • @howardyoung9987
    @howardyoung9987 Год назад

    Political song.

  • @peterharvey5766
    @peterharvey5766 9 месяцев назад

    Utterly clueless commentary

  • @garywilson6047
    @garywilson6047 Год назад

    It’s Mods not punks

  • @StephenWoodhouse-t9t
    @StephenWoodhouse-t9t 13 дней назад

    There not punk rock the pistols were punk rock

  • @bryanforis1839
    @bryanforis1839 Год назад

    Good music sounds great live band stage show