I learned that even inside the buttstock, the Brit engineers removed a chunk of wood to lighten the overall weight. The aggregate of all these little material removal, metal scallops and shavings and cuts enabled the total weight of the carbine to be only 7.5-lbs. Part of the weight savings included removing six inches of barrel and stock.
They also narrowed the trigger guard on the "jungle carbines". You can see the STEP when you compare it with a "regular" trigger guard. Look at top of trigger guard near stock for the step. In addition there was another lightening cut on the receiver near the locking lug which would normally be a slight protrusion - this was machined flat on the No. 5. This protrusion required a small relief in the stock to clear it. A No. 5 stock will NOT have that relief cut as it's not needed. A replaced or fake stock would easily be detected if it had that unnecessary cut. Right front top inside edge of stock near bolt lug.
If you got that sporterized one for free, you could put it back to original. The cost of the rear stock, fore stock, handguard, buttplate, rear and front sites, front barrel band, and swivel are so much that you could just buy another gun. If you do it anyway, it’s a labor of love….
You have a very late one. 12/47 was at the very end of production for the No 5 Mk I. Besides the BSA stamp and the Fazakerly engraving, a quick way to identify is to check the hole in the bolt and the 800 yd rear sight.
Perhaps the rubber but pad was to avoid slipping in the jungle through sweat. These are a great rifle. There is a very over claimed myth about accuracy but these are plenty accurate out to 250 yards.
They were first issued to British troops in 1945 serving in Denmark I think it was. Their original use and design has nothing to do with tropical combat.
I don’t wish to be pedantic, but the rifle sling on the butt of the rifle is the wrong way round, the brass plate of the sling should be on the inside, the 2 fastening should be visible.
Butchers alot of words and nomenclature. To much approximatetion of important measurments and descriptions. Would not rely on this person's information.
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I learned that even inside the buttstock, the Brit engineers removed a chunk of wood to lighten the overall weight. The aggregate of all these little material removal, metal scallops and shavings and cuts enabled the total weight of the carbine to be only 7.5-lbs. Part of the weight savings included removing six inches of barrel and stock.
They also narrowed the trigger guard on the "jungle carbines". You can see the STEP when you compare it with a "regular" trigger guard. Look at top of trigger guard near stock for the step. In addition there was another lightening cut on the receiver near the locking lug which would normally be a slight protrusion - this was machined flat on the No. 5. This protrusion required a small relief in the stock to clear it. A No. 5 stock will NOT have that relief cut as it's not needed. A replaced or fake stock would easily be detected if it had that unnecessary cut. Right front top inside edge of stock near bolt lug.
Thanks for the added info!
Getting ready to go look at one right now. Thanks for the information
Informative video! Looking at buying a no5 this weekend, now I know what to look for! Thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
Good video my friend... I love Enfields
If you got that sporterized one for free, you could put it back to original. The cost of the rear stock, fore stock, handguard, buttplate, rear and front sites, front barrel band, and swivel are so much that you could just buy another gun. If you do it anyway, it’s a labor of love….
You have a very late one. 12/47 was at the very end of production for the No 5 Mk I. Besides the BSA stamp and the Fazakerly engraving, a quick way to identify is to check the hole in the bolt and the 800 yd rear sight.
I would so restore that to the original specs and use the sport stock to hold up one side of my tool hatch on my jeep when I open it.
I have an accurate No5 Mk1, Ser # R58XX with a 9/45 date mark that also has the metal cap on the fore end.
Perhaps the rubber but pad was to avoid slipping in the jungle through sweat. These are a great rifle. There is a very over claimed myth about accuracy but these are plenty accurate out to 250 yards.
They were first issued to British troops in 1945 serving in Denmark I think it was. Their original use and design has nothing to do with tropical combat.
Wow, that sporterized No 5 makes me want to cry. No 5's are basically sporterized No 4's, why anyone would change one is beyond me.
I don’t wish to be pedantic, but the rifle sling on the butt of the rifle is the wrong way round, the brass plate of the sling should be on the inside, the 2 fastening should be visible.
Thanks for the heads-up,
BSA rifles are better finished than Faz rifles. BSA knew what they were doing.
the sling is installed incorrectly. The two lugs should face away from the stock.
Ok, thanks.
Butchers alot of words and nomenclature. To much approximatetion of important measurments and descriptions. Would not rely on this person's information.