The Worlds Most Capable Tier 1 Unit That Recruits From All Military Branches
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- Опубликовано: 13 мар 2023
- Delta Force takes any background and molds them into the most capable fighting force arguably on the planet. If you have the characteristics they are looking for, you may just become a part of the unit, no matter what branch you serve in the U.S. Military.
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Every delta is an oathbreaker. We have lots of places losing 2a rights. No arrests. Buncha cowards.
Thank you Shawn, for your service to this country and for the brilliant content. There is a bunch of trash out there, and its very refreshing to have meaningful, educational, and entertaining content.
great clip. SUGGESTION: turn the auto focus off on your guest's side camera, it kept catching his handing waving which was kinda annoying. would probably also help your editor
Question. All I ever wanted to do was be a soldier. When I was 17/18 I realised that I was barred from entry due to having been diagnosed with Asperger’s/autism when I was 10. Because of this fell into a deep depression which is now another bar on service should in the unlikely event the autism bar be lifted.
For the soldiers particularly combat veterans, are there too many bars on service? My own personal view has always been, let me try and make your decision at the end of basic but that’s not an option.
The British Army is smaller than 75,000 and still they can’t meet recruitment goals and here I am wishing for the chance. Pisses me off to be honest.
@@sasquatchrosefarts Delta Force, and the US Military in general, do not have policing/arrest authority against private citizens within the US. What exactly do you think it is that a CAG operator might do to help uphold someone's 2a rights in any particular state... let's be specific here. What exactly do you believe makes some of the most elite warfighters our nation has to offer "cowards"?
Just to clarify... here are some excerpts from the oath of enlistment:
"I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic;"
You can see the quality in this bloke. Polite, well spoken and articulate, clearly focused, charming, good sense of humour and intelligent. Very unassuming warrior. You can see why he was Delta lol.
Facts
For sure
And capable of ripping someones throat out lol
He is a multi million dollar weapon system; he is beyond warrior level. Salute to such a expert
Dead on assessment. He's a sharp dude.
I served regular Army with a fella that went Delta, he was your typical 12B but just a highly motivated dude, a family man from small town America with one of the strongest work ethics youve ever seen. We never did see him again but heard he smoked all the PT tests and all the mental stuff as well, I know our country was better for having Sgt Green on one of the elite teams.
Cool story, bro!
This is Sgt Green. Thank you bro but I’m down bad and need some money
@@Sizzle-zv3cp Talk to yer wife I gave her a hundy last night, and tell her to roll her lips more.
@@Sizzle-zv3cp 🤣😂
i know the type, absolutely formidable
The DEVGRU guy he's talking about is Kevin Holland
I'm always happy seeing an american SF operator who hasn't yet started his own t-shirt brand or released a book about his incredible endevours.
That’s most Delta guys. The vast majority of them are pretty quiet. And honestly, the few CAG dudes who don’t stay totally quiet, I don’t blame them. It’s just that most do.
Don't see the problem with that as long as its on the down low...most of these guys signed up after that kind of exposure anyways so I don't get your point.
Or has a Podcast
Ain't nothing wrong with entrepreneurship after getting out as long as you're not selling out
...yet.
I served over 15 years as a tanker, 19K, and whenever we worked with any secret squirrels it was always an honor. Great dudes that go from chill to professional in milliseconds. Much Respect. By the way I was early 2000s too lol 01 to 16.
Onya son
I know they would bust you r balls for being a tanker...until they needed that main gun and maybe some cover.
Abrams?
@@magnusred2945 yes, sir! A1 and A2
@@leaningforward5294 you know how it is!
I was army infantry and always heard they psych eval is they are looking for type A personality. You can actually tell the difference in a retired delta guy versus a retired oda guy. I used to be a training analyst at SOTD (spec ops training detachment) I was there on 9/11 and after, when they expanded in size and went from 3 digit to 4 digit oda team numbers. I can mostly spot a team guy instantly but I've come across delta guys and seriously thought they were civilians. I showed a guy around our mout complex and he was picking spots for targets and a couple other things they wanted to do then he wanted to know the best fishing spots near by. I thought he was like a gs guy from ft Irwin that was with an oda, basically like me. After he left, i was letting my boss know what we needed to put together for him and i asked who the guy was because it's usually a Major from sn SF Company like an S4 or something but i told my boss this guy was civilian i think. He laughed and said that's a Delta team leader. They came in the next night and did a live fire. I think they came over the radio twice, hot then cleared. We record it all then provide them with a dvd (back then) which the odas will watch the next day and talk about. Just a standard AAR. I called over to the SOTD cadre to let them know it was ready. Maybe 3 days later the delta guy came in and told me just to shred the dvd and thanked me for the fishing spots. Turned out they went fishing for the next 3 days and completely skipped the rest of range time they had.
Sounds like the training the SAS dude skipped. Broke his compass on purpose, went into the opposite direction and went fishing for a couple of days.
Very well-spoken, mild mannered guy. This is the type of individual you’d like speaking on behalf of the organization
I really appreciate how this gentleman represents how our operators are not just athletes but extremely intelligent individuals. I got to work with a few and i have always been blown away talking with them. Unfreaking balievable! God help who ever stands between them and their objective!
I have no military experience, but just from watching shit and reading a bunch, Im under the impression that the delta guys are EXTREMELY smart, they are the ones that go in, topple governments and are there for the rebuild. Obviously, just a broad statement of what they do, no to be taken literal, but just in a sense they are extremely good at what they do and super smart
@@Sir_Vex_DestroyerOfSemenDemonsyeah, the intelligence level is often off the charts with these guys.
i love this guy. He could be the soccer dad in the stands next to you. Then you talk to him and its like whaaaaaat. I've known a couple guys like that- a CCT in the 24th STS, a green beret who was in 7th group i think, and a SEAL in my masters program. Not of these guys' appearance screamed high speed operator, but they definitely were.
You’ll learn the best operators are never the obvious ones
Shawn is a cool dude as far as I can tell. He doesn`t interrupt and he asks great questions. Good man!
Every Cag dude ive ever met without exception was an awesome guy to talk to.
A majority of them grew up in battalion so they love hearing the barracks stories of the new generation. I was lucky my first deployment was with them, learned alot.
At 10:48, he's talking about kevin holland, they're few interviews on RUclips where he talks about his experiences in devgru and delta, truly amazing
The Psychologist are top notch fellows. I spent three hours with Andy during my psych interview, and I was simply amazed. Then, later in my career, I supported events and was able to work with all the psychologist. Amazing, and odd, people that blew my mind. Fun fact, many of the psychologist who support Tier One selection also work the NFL Combine. I know this because I worked with the Psych that did Johnny Footballs background and he was 100 percent correct about Johnny's short lived career. Like shockingly accurate!
It wasn’t hard to recognize that’s manziel was gonna fail. Same with Baker.
@@sking52 thats just skill, desean watson is more of a psycho but because he can play they overlook it.
Theres ticking time bombs all over the nfl, if theyre good enough they'll play. Like they didnt know aaron Hernandez was a loose canon.
As always great stuff Shawn!! Your'e getting the answers to the questions many of us have had for a long time...
My understanding is the founder of Delta Charles Beckwith spent time with the UK SAS, and adopted many of their tactics - recruiting from all services is one of them.
Historically correct.
Incorrect. If I’m not mistaken during that time the SAS were only taking applicants from the army. Only until early 2000’s when SAS and SBS selection came together they then allowed tri service because they realised that the SBS weren’t getting enough numbers coming in due to only allowing marines, so now even people from Royal Marines could join the SAS and vice versa.
@@dylanjohns8409 Chat GPT begs to differ "during the 20th century, including the 1990s, the SAS (Special Air Service) did occasionally accept candidates from the Royal Air Force (RAF) and Royal Navy. While the SAS traditionally recruited from the British Army, individuals from other branches of the military were not precluded from applying." I know for a fact the NZSAS accepted an Air Force
Chef who passed selection in 1988, and many Navy and Airforce since.
@@bigglesharrumpher4139 And according to PAGODA22SAS the most accurate historical archive of 22 SAS on social media, it was very rare for 22 to invite or recruit outside the Army. In fact 21 and 23 SAS(R) had more instances of taking in non army volunteers then 22. Also, the SAS were only doing this because they as an organization sometimes struggled with numbers and maintaining proper Squadron strength. Delta Force recruited outside the Army because they understood that sometimes the most capable and qualified people are hiding in plain sight and can benefit a Counter Terrorism organization in other ways the Army culture lacks.. Historically speaking, US Army Special Operations Command was far more proactive and aggressive in recruiting outside the Army then UK SF. This changed in the GWOT, but no, Delta Force did not get that recruiting concept form 22 Hereford. In fact, these is more evidence to suggest UK SF took that recruiting template from Delta and USASOC as a whole.
Any Brits trying to suggest that Delta Force took this recruitment model from 22 SAS is 100% false. In fact, it’s completely backwards. 22 SAS historically speaking very rarely ever invited non Army branches to attend selection. And in the rare cases that they did, it was do to the fact that’s some years saw the Squadrons as short handed and not enough operators per Troop. In fact 21 and 23 SAS(R) had more instances of taking non Army volunteers then 22 did. It had nothing to do with trying to find other people that brought unique capabilities and experiences, which was the (actual motive) for Delta Force when they started doing it, and why the UK SF would later adopt this recruiting template.
Delta Force started this trend, not the SAS.
You are an excellent interviewer and this is one of your best. Heck yeah I subscribed.
I met 2 kinds of Delta guys. One was wounded and sent to our unit to recover. Didn't know he was Delta until he left us. He was a good friend. I was an outsider support guy. He treated me like family. Loved him. 2d type was also recovering from wounds. Had to keep up his jump status. It was 2005. I hadn't jumped in like 14 years. Nervous, trying to do everything right. Had equipment check. My turn I yell OK and slap him on butt. He looked like he was going to kill me, shook his head, calmly tapped the next guy and softly said, OK. Yep, I slapped him near his wound. I wanted to crawl in a hole and die. Great men.
Absolutely loved this episode. Watched the whole thing.
This is a fascinating segment! New sub!!!
There ain't a single person who watched this would see this man in public and tell themselves "from the looks of him, he's 1 of the most lethal and dangerous men in the entire world"
Never judge a book by its cover #Facts
He kinda reminds me of my highschool art teacher lol
Exactly, I've seen a few clips with this guy and something always seemed off. Dude looks like most guys you would run into behind a desk in a cubicle. Well put my man.
Man you meet some of the nerdiest folks in the military that can shoot the wings off a fly. Never underestimate for sure.
That's a cool idea and with a firearm he might be untouchable but hand to hand; Brian shaw, Tom stoltman, hafthor bjornson would hulk smash this man lol
He's a twin to one of my High school English teachers. These guys are just a cut above the rest. 🇺🇲♥️🇺🇲
I could listen to him for hours!!! Incredible individual and warrior! 🇺🇸
One other unit that recruits from every branch of the military is JCU or the Joint Communications Unit. Their mission is to provide battlefield communications to CAG, DEVGRU, 16th SOAR, ETC.
They are not door kickers but for any young person interested in computers, radios, IT, and wants to join the military consider trying out.
If you could get a french foriegn legion guy on your show thatll be badass
sounds Romantic but ive had quite a few friends go from my Reg The Royal Green Jackets to the legion and all of them have said its nowhere near as good as everyone thinks and that RGJ was much tougher.
@@jamescunningham1973 they also have higher tier units and maybe some are different
French foreign legion isn't special ops, 1er Rpima, commandos marines, CPA 10 and service action are equivalent to US JSOC and CIA SAC, French foreign legion is more like the marine Corp, they are légionnaire just like marines aren't soldiers for exemple but the most part isn't special ops, only a few team are part of GCP that is not part of special ops command but is an elite unit
@@anasthasedandin9814 From what Ive seen and heard their mostly on the front lnes so their story would be interesting to hear too but I thought they performed spec op missions I could be wrong
@@anasthasedandin9814 Yeah. I think they are just straight up grunts. I think they give them a bunch of janky gear to and actually treat them like expendables. I watched a YT video of them fighting in Afghanistan and their rifles would jam after every shot. To the point that it appeared like the semi-automatic assault rifle being used by one of them was a bolt action. He would just fire and then manually cycle the action every time he fired it. I guess the brass was jamming the cycle. He wouldn't even react to the fact that his rifle was consistently jamming. You could tell he was so used to it being an unreliable piece of shit that he expected the jam.
In regards to a Unit Member learning Aviation, You gotta admit, having a guy on your Spec Ops Team who is not only a Tier1 Ground Force Recon/Operator/Shooter etc, that could steal and fly an enemy Air Asset full of his Teammates out of harm's way if the opportunity presented itself and was useful to the mission's completion is a pretty cool feather to have in a Team's Cap..... A guy that can fix engines is just THAT on a smaller scale, but can be none the less just as useful.
In Rogue Warrior, the late Richard NMI Marcinko Cdr ⚓️ ret said SEAL 6 had a member who became ✈️ qualified, FAA & USAF aircraft. This was prior to the DevGru era.
True professional! No ego, just a gentlemanly warrior! What a wonderful interview!
Thank you both for your service.
Amazing men!
One of my fellow firearms instructors was an Army truck driver and went to Delta.
that's one baddass truck driver
Did he prove it. If not, hes a mitty.
What cool about CAG is you can go there as a support MOS but are still required to pass a specific selection for support MOS that is not the same as regular selection for operators. Had a few support guys in my SF unit who were at CAG previously
Many years ago, sometime around 2005 or 06, I dated a girl whose brother (a Marine-maybe 5 years) went to the Army for a while; he then later returned to the Marines. Honestly, at the time, I never thought much about it, I didn't know much about the military, except for Aviation. Looking back, I wonder if he did something cool during his time in the Army.
there was that radio guy who went to Delta. They recruited him for the support squadron, but the commander said he should try out cos he'll always have the 'what if' question if he doesn't. and if he didn't make the operator course they'd still take him as the radio guy.
Of course he passed selection...
Please get an SBS/SAS operator on the show
Or a CIA Sac/Sad operator 🤝 in my opinion the best of the best
@@Itsnej most of CIA operators are delta anyways. Delta Force and SAS are the cream of the crop.
NSA special collection service would be crazy 🤯
@@TheDogGoesWoof69 No tell us more Brain's
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Col Beckwith served with 22 SAS as an exchange officer. Passed selection, commanded a Troop, conducted guerrilla operations with the SAS in Malaya. Mirrored similar selection process for Delta which he established.
Yeah SAS is the best for sure
@@noncekilla8848 Not even close. Well, they are at most on par, but CAG (JSOC in general) has practically lead the world in this field
Any Brits trying to suggest that Delta Force took this recruitment model from 22 SAS is 100% false. In fact, it’s completely backwards. 22 SAS historically speaking very rarely ever invited non Army branches to attend selection. And in the rare cases that they did, it was do to the fact that’s some years saw the Squadrons as short handed and not enough operators per Troop. In fact 21 and 23 SAS(R) had more instances of taking non Army volunteers then 22 did. It had nothing to do with trying to find other people that brought unique capabilities and experiences, which was the (actual motive) for Delta Force when they started doing it, and why the UK SF would later adopt this recruiting template.
Delta Force started this trend, not the SAS.
The very few shooting/clearing videos that exist of Delta stuff are wild…target discrimination and deadly shot from waist level firing level then moving up…it’s some wild ability.
Great podcast. That dude is impressive and humble. Great dude!
my son is one - transferred over from one of the branches referenced - he never talks about it, I never ask and I've gleaned more from these last two interviews than I ever have from him - thanks Shawn - appreciate the insight
My older brother was Army and was ASA and if asked where he had been, his answer was, meh, here and there. That was it.
What’s ASA?
@@MrBond-uq2tg Army Security Agency
I have a dear friend who was ASA in Vietnam in the 70s. Super cool people.
Shawn thanks for what you do and will continue to do we all enjoy the show keep it up 👍
Loved it. Your content is pure love for me.
That was a great interview.
What fascinates me about these tier 1 operators is most of these individuals look like my 8th grade science teacher but will break you off 8 ways from Sunday if they have to. These individuals are so resilient and self motivated.
Makes complete sense, Delta recruiting from all military branches.
They "cast the net widely" - talent isn't restricted to one branch of the military.
Good video!
All branches has their own history and culture. Putting different people from different branches together doesn't mean they will fit or be tight on their first deployment. Devgru is also tier 1 but they only take top Seals that has been in the community and doing combat deployments together for years making the teams tight. CAG and Devgru uses different methods but what makes a unit work is how tight they are together.
Great Podcast, and they are only getting better
Really enjoyed this episode.
Wow the guy being interviewed, well spoken, calm, cool collective and seems like he is very intelligent! Wow great interview!
AND he is like john wick in real life😅
@@tylerdurden1923😂😂😂
Kudos to you all for this video. Its a great testament to our military's ability to adapt and realize that the best are just that, the best and not which branch they came from or what school they went to. Having been a CCT, it never dawned on me to explore Delta. I wish I had
You didnt wanna head to the 24thSTS?
Hello. This is the first time I've happened upon your channel. I'm quite impressed with the quality of the conversation and I will be back.
This was fascinating...When I was on the USAPT we had a couple ex-Delta guys who were legend status (Eagle Claw guys). Amazing soldiers. Years later I worked with a couple 22 SAS guys. They really are an amazing group of human beings. The focus they have is just hard to comprehend. I am glad we have these patriots on our side. They are the very best.
I think Gump wouldve made a great one
Would love to see a Kevin Holland interview!!! The only guy to go from DEVGRU to CAG.
always love hearing about delta boys
Yes, need to interview Kevin Holland too! Great stuff
Back in the 2000s four Coast Guard members were sent to BUDS as part of a joint agreement with the Navy. All four passed and were given the option to stay and become operators. To my knowledge they all chose to stay. So the answer to whether or not they could become Delta operators is yes as long as Delta has no specific requirements as to not accepting them.
It’s is still amazing how Kevin. Holland went form DEVRGU to Delta. Already taking a lethal operator and taking him to become a more lethal one.
they are both tier 1. Different process. Devgru only takes Seals with years of combat deployments because they want to keep it within the community making the teams tighter. Just because you put different people from different branches together doesn't mean they will be tight together on their first deployment.
@Steve Sherman Army is a bigger branch than Navy with more people so they would have more slots but the question is doing what? You don't want a cr@ppy job or a desk job in your last days of your military career. There are a lot of Navy in California, Virginia, Florida and Hawaii and they want to be retired in those states.
@Steve Sherman We don’t know the details of his record in the Navy to know his options at the time. His commands would know best. Being an officer doesn’t mean is better than enlistment.
@mike boyer dev gru actually takes other Navy guys I've heard of Navy Eod getting pulled in.
@@AdeptN00B Yes. They all part of the Naval Special Forces and work together just like Army EOD supports Delta. They don’t get the Trident unless they pass Buds and Seal Qualification (SQT)but they work together. All Naval Special Forces work together.
Good interview! Like many impressionable young men, I aspired to join CAG, but realized after a few years in the Army and meeting some of these types, that despite having a good "resume" for it, I did not have the personality to be that singularly focused and driven. It has to be THE most important thing in your life, and it's just not for me. Seeing interviews like this confirms it for me. Notice how many times he mentions personal drive/attitude/personality. That's the crux. People think I'm very driven, but after being exposed to others like him, I realized I'm only quite driven. There are very few people with that level of internal drive, and I've seen it negatively affect their personal lives. It's hard to balance a drive like that, in a demanding job like that, with relationships.
It takes alot to admit that, respect.
Sounds like my career as a chef
Agreed 💯
I was dead set on going SEALs and I trained my butt off only to realize later on that there were many guys who could run circles around me at my best self. That was a wake up. To sign up to try out in my career path entailed taking risks that I wasn't willing to undergo and I've since made my peace. But I do envy these guys sometimes.
The fact you could identify that in yourself is in itself extremely impressive 👍
I cant wait for the full show, ever since i heard of my dad explaining the delta force when i was young kid i always wanted to learn as much as i could about them.
im glad he explained it the way he did because im pretty sure they pick and choose who they wanna give a tryout to be in delta force. Definitely a detailed selection, they dont just pick any solider. you gotta be qualified for it, not jus having the right mind set, passion and so forth. like he said" during the interview "cant be dumb". so i hope people realize that you have to have qualifications and go through tests before anything else starts. lol
I’ve known several individuals in the unit, from the most junior Soldier to the Unit Commander, and they’ve figured out how to make the best warrior on the planet. They can adapt to any operational environment. The unit is the Swiss Army Knife of warfare.
I like how he takes that split second to think of the question and have the answer. As well as he uses "uhh, uhm," very little. Only way I seen it is as he processes the question and answers the questions. I remember before I enlisted I saw a few interviews like this and had noticed that they just talked. No, " uhm you know. Like you know, uhh you know." And I practice this a lot. Now when my junior marines ask me questions I answer clear. And I teach them the same. I don't yell or blast them. I don't know how they take it as, bur I do my best to be professional like this man here.
I am addicted to this podcast. TU Lam is a must see, you won't be able to stop watching.
One of the best channels ever. I have never served but I work in the defense industry. There is sometimes a perception that warriors are just meat heads who like to fight and are tough as hell. Many are a rare combination of strength, (mental and physical) and smart, it's very impressive. Many are also some of the kindest people you would ever meet, they can just kill you in many ways. I've been fortunate to work with them.
Shawn,
The Australian and UK SAS have the same recruitment policy (which is where CAG get their policy from). It doesn't matter someone's background, if they pass selection they will start at the very beginning in the "crawl, walk,jog and run" principles......
Much better mix of operator at the end. The key traits are trainability and humility.
Cognitive dexterity is the big one.. the ability to solve multiple problems and make decisions under stress and chaos. It’s something a soldier has Or does not, it can’t be taught
I was a agent with DS and had fellow agents that came from SOF. They had tried out for the unit and were plenty capable, but the over all question was “what were they looking for?” Everyone believed that this one attribute to selection was its strong point.
I've got a pretty good sense of what that "it" is that they're looking for and it's actually not that hard to figure out. Everyone's got a Selection story. It's a shame, because they've almost given it away at this point (but it turns out it almost doesn't matter (but it sort of does, because you can game it.) If you compile dozen and a half, maybe two dozen Selection stories together, you can build a pretty good picture of exactly what it is they're doing at Selection, and why they're doing it. If you're going, maybe you shouldn't. But the thing is, even if you know what it is, it's not something you can really fake over a long period of time anyway under close scrutiny anyway. The end result is pretty hard to argue with - no process is perfect and the Unit has its bad apples, too, but well, I won't get into why Sean Ryan, a SEAL feels Delta is at the apex.
But yeah, I think everyone who shows up at WV for each selection is physically up to the task and I think this hypothetical time standard that each candidate is supposed to meet on each day is not a hard number. Meeting the time standard is not the objective. What happens in-between and here is what a lot of people miss your thought processes and how your justify your actions post-mission debrief is what they're looking at. I see these guys described in previous posts with multiple superlative adjectives and they're all true. But look at Pat Mac, John McPhee, Chris Van Zant, Pete Blaber and all the other modern. post GWOT Unit operators that have been on various podcasts - they have very different personaities but they do have one thing in common. And servicemembers in the combat arms Army or Marines who have run into these dudes on FOBs and COPs all over Iraq and Afghanistan universal in their esteem for these guys and they describe them the same way. Grunts love these guys. SF/GB/Group similar praise, less effusive. Regiment, mixed bag. NSW, better left unsaid.
Leadershiship side, I just wrote a fucking wall of text that I deleted because it was neither here nor there because I'm a wordy motherfucker who loves to talk too much. That is all.
This was a great interview, and your shows are just epic sir.. Keep up the good work..
Regards from the heartland. South Central Indiana. USA
Tim
these guys are just built different, incredible
Love to see former Nirvana and Soundgarden guitarist turned U.S. Army Ranger and Green Beret, Jason Everman on your show. I’m familiar with his story but hearing it told in your laid back yet very crisp and professional studio setting would be very cool.
Thanks for the show. It makes a very long, shitty drive home after work, speed by.
Right. Would really like to see that. Both those bands are among my favorites ever.
Very well spoken, a true leader….
3rd batt here .. I enjoyed my time with these guys ..cheers
That GMT master II looks so clean.
I met a Soldier once who (edit) said he tried out for the SEALs. Big guy. Strong. Not real bright.
His first task was to push a HMMWV for an unspecified distance. This dude clearly spent a lot of time in the gym and could also run. He pushed the vehicle a long way. When he couldn’t do it anymore he told the SEAL trainer that was it, he couldn’t move it anymore. The trainer responded something to the effect of “Man, you did really good. Almost there but not quite. Thanks for your time.”
That was it. He was out. Clearly what the big guy didn’t realize is that they weren’t looking for a specific distance. Small guys had to push the truck, too, and would not have pushed it as far. I figure what they were looking for was someone who would never stop pushing until he was told to.
Yeah, no. That's not the way it works.
@@ryhk3293 Yah? How far did you have to push the truck?
@@edwardhoward4708 Oh, so you're one of those. Doubling down. Okay.
How far did I push the truck? Not as far as you're pushing your bullshit.. In fact, I didn't have to push a truck at all. I was smart enough to listen to the SEAL officers and CPOs that were assigned as faculty/cadre at the Academy that ran the four-year officer-BUDS preparatory program (You know, the one with only a 25% attrition rate vs the 80-85% enlisted attrition rate) during my weeklong taste of a midshipman's life in Annapolis, sandwiched between a week in Colorado Springs and a week and a half at West Point when I was being recruited by the service academies.
Those SEALs told me that I didn't have to push an imaginary truck very far at all to be a SEAL. They also told me that Marines don't get to try out to be SEALs. Marines do their own thing.
@@ryhk3293 ok, I’ll clarify; I met a guy who TOLD me he had to push a HMMWV for an unspecified distance. I have no reason to suspect he was lying. Was he? Do you know for a fact? I met him in a military environment. Maybe a WAREX or train up to go to Iraq. I forget exactly where.
Other details; when I was in JROTC a man who claimed to be the only SEAL recruiter in the United States came to talk to my class. He said a couple things I remember.
1. The most important thing they are looking for is mental discipline. Unwillingness to quit.
2. He said of all the athlete types to try out for the seals, wrestlers tend to be the most successful. He said the ability to say no to a doughnut when you are skinny and starving Is a start of the kind of Mental stamina that they’re looking for.
Is that also bullshit? Did the Captain and the Chief bring a fraud into the classroom? He was wearing a navy uniform, if I recollect LCDR. I’m pretty sure the CPT and the chief were legit; CPT Ferrarini had wings and the chief was skinny supposedly because he got shrapnel in his gut in Vietnam And they had to remove a lot of his intestines.
If you’re going to be useful here, help sort out fact from fiction. I could believe pushing the truck is an urban legend repeated by Joes If it came from a credible source. I’d also believe that the top-tier units are looking for something other than unwillingness to quit If it came from a source more credible than a uniformed Navy officer.
@@edwardhoward4708 Are you sure it was SEAL and not Ranger? There is an event in RASP where candidates have to push a HMMWV (with only three wheels, at that!) However, it's one one person pushing it; it's a whole team of guys pushing it, and they push it for *hours*.
Thank you for your service
A friend is retired Delta who was in Mogadishu. Professional and confident, no chip on his shoulder.
Man, this dude is Bad Ass without even trying.
I believe he's talking about Kevin Holland. The DEV guy who went into Delta. It is a funny story.
SAS/SBS also recruit from everywhere. The whole system and set up is based on the SAS/SBS
Gunny Oakes, was one of my Ranger Instructors in Dahlonega (Mountain Phase). Hands down the most intense man I have ever met in my career. The man was no nonsense but had a way to really make you think about what the heck you were doing and why it mattered when it came to combat. His physical presence put you in awe, period.
Please 🙏 if you can ,do an interview with Vietnam war veteran LRRP or MACV-SOG personals.
This definitely needs to be advertised more. I don't think I can do this physically anymore but joining delta from any branch I definitely didn't know was possible.
Guy from my church just retired from CAG. He always told me before CAG he was just a 92y doing recruiting duty. He just happened to come across the right guy at the right time and the next thing he knew he was going through selection. Of course there are requirements that he had to meet, but before that he was just a regular ass soldier serving as a recruiter.
Getting any reasonable training funded- now that sounds like an awesome form of support/opportunity
The office who created Delta was a Ranger exchange officers from the US to the UK. He passed SAS selection and lead SAS teams on operations. On returning to the US he pushed to form an elite force but was ignored. He eventually given the green light and delta was born. He instilled valves from the UK. ❤
I'm pretty sure most special forces were based on the SAS. One could argue they technically weren't the first, and they probably could be right, but the SAS is the benchmark... and IMHO, better to be the benchmark than to be the first, because it means you're that good and everyone else is just a comparison.
@@slushyslushslushbruh SAS tactics were likely picked up from India's indigenous warrior race who were severely outnumbered but still managed to protect India from mass Islamic and Christian conversions. Small team tactics were being used against the Mughal Empire, Afghans, and Turkish empires who invaded simultaneously along with the Portuguese, French, and British were the last. Unconventional warfare was a cornerstone in tactics like sending in small teams most commonly in 5's for night/early morning infiltration. The enemy would become confused and even engage in friendly fire not knowing how many enemy's actually laid siege to them. By day break the battalion's camp would be in shambles averting their pending attack on the next village. And many times the rest of the battalion would be finished off during day break by the main unit. The defense was effective and why the Afghans, Mughal Empire, and Turkish Empire could not convert India to Islam like Central Asia, and why the French, Portuguese, and British could not force convert India to Christianity.
You're referring to Colonel Charles " Chargin Charlie" Beckwith.
That's army SF. Not this specific unit
@@babloo1666 what a load of tripe lol 😂
These two have a great rapport.
They sound very calm and nice people and deadly
Time to get a badass air force combat controller or JTAC on the show and I know just the guy who has been there since the beginning. Where you at Shawn?! Hmm!
How about an interview with Larry Vickers?
The guy from Dev that Vasant speaks about is Kevin Holland. A real legend !
The term “operator” just sounds cool as hell. And honestly seems like it kinda makes sense in terms of function
Great interview, didn’t know that they pick from all branches no matter the experience.
Shawn Ryan please interview Nicholas Irving.
Wish I knew this stuff back in the 90's when I tried out for SF.
It's also done this way partly because it's a larger pool of talent to sift through. They can just get the best of the best far quicker than say Devgru, (SEAL team 6), because it doesn't require guys to jump through all these other hurtles before being eligible to try out for for.
I love the subtle jab at the coast guard 😂
Uncle Sam's canoe club
They still have an important role in American society
@@DakotaofRaptors they really don’t
Thanks!
You're welcome David! Thank you for supporting the Shawn Ryan Show!!
The last time I was looking into an SMU the requirement was 18 months down range. At one point that was probably a dime a dozen but not so much anymore.
And there’s always a “minimum” standard, but striving for that is a good way to get shown the door.
Hmmm, Dallas did say that JTF2 also recruits from all branches.
Yes he did
Correct. JTF2 is Canadian though. JTF2 sister force is CSOR, who also recruit from all branches, though they aren't tier 1, but operate together frequently.
Would like to see Dom Raso interview
He’s right, Holland sounds like an interesting cat and would be a great idea for a future podcast.
Friend of mine’s son did those paintings. They are awesome
DELTA is the dream team of specops it makes sense to recruit from every branch you get a little bit of everything
Just because you put different operators together for the first time doesn't mean they will be tight together on their first deployment. Devgru only picks the top 1% of Seals with years of combat deployment because they have been together for years in the same community and know each other well that makes the teams tight. Devgru and Delta use a different process for a different outcome. A married couple from the same background that has been together for years will know each other a lot more than putting a new couple together from different backgrounds. In battle and war is who works best together and trust is everything. That's why Devgru doesn't take Delta or anybody else.
@@deathfire096 how do you know that? Are you a seal?
@@derekbarker2818 Navy Veteran. That’s the reason they stay within the community for Devgru.
What a cool gentleman, all the shit he been through and his mental strength still is 10/10. That’s a true warrior.
Did anyone notice the professional and polite pause he gave when coast guard was mentioned. That speaks volumes.
Quite the difference between this guy and that last Delta headcase that was on.
There are 2 Coast Guardsmen who are Navy SEALs, so it is possible for Coast Guard members to become Delta.
Agree, it’s just not the norm!
There’s a difference between being a seal and being a tier one SF guy. It’s possible yes it’s just never happened from what we know.
I was told by an O-6 that the Coast Guard falls under The Department of Homeland Security, thus not The Department of Defense. Therefore, cannot go to selection.
One has to be a part of DOD.
@@kenfresno1711 Yes, it is part of DHS, but it's also a branch of the Military. You are lying or were lied to. It's one of those two...
The United States Coast Guard (USCG) is the maritime security, search and rescue, and law enforcement service branch of the United States Armed Forces.
The U.S. Coast Guard operates under the U.S. Department of Homeland Security during peacetime. During times of war, it can be transferred in whole or in part to the U.S. Department of the Navy under the Department of Defense by order of the U.S. President or by act of Congress.
Created by Congress as the Revenue-Marine on 4 August 1790 at the request of Alexander Hamilton, it is the oldest continuously operating naval service of the United States.
My call of duty world at war experience helped my access into derp force
Me too! It taught me that switching to your pistol is always faster than reloading!
Great guest
Doesn't the ISA or whatever they are called now, also select from all branches? I saw a team house podcast that had Eric Miyares in it. The guy was a marine then some ended up in the army and then joined a smu unit that is not CAG.
USASOC in general recruits from all the branches. CAG, ISA and even RRC are open for all branches to try out for their selection pipelines.
Task Force Orange is the non fiction book that explains the ISA. How it started, what they do.
@@joesgotya9930RRC recruits from 75th Ranger Regiment.