@@ROmaniac21 Don't forget to include top speed, 1/4 mile drag strip testing, engine vibration,comparisons, over all comfort, roll -on racing, price and brand reliability.
@@stevesmith6236 I'm in the Pacific Northwest. It's about 5 hours to the nearest Ducati dealer, north or south. I have a KTM dealer within 15 minutes. Not that I would buy a Duck if they were closer. Desmo seems like a stupid complication to me but the Duck lovers will happily tell you how great they are. The Panigale twins were notorious for cooking crotches. That post was a slight dig at the Duck lovers. I've never had an Italian bike but if I did it would be an Aprilia.
It gets worse LCR. Their latest video is another recycled footage piece with voice over comparing the Triumph Tiger and the Yamaha Tenere. Unfortunately this seems to be a trend with Visordown. An obvious tactic to get views without actually producing original content. A shame as Visordown was once a reputable source.
Mr. Chops we are pretty well same age and love of bikes, I was the one that ask should I go for the H2sxse+. Now my 2008 ZX-14 turbocharged getting, little old, it's my touring missile. I want something like this nutty bike, no electronic suspension and can't believe you got pay not have anti wheelie, lol. Cheers🇨🇦
What a great review! I love that you mentioned some stuff that other reviewers completely ignored like needing the track package to be able to adjust wheelie control without turning TC off, or the fact that it doen's come with a QS as starndard feature (WTH KTM?!)
I have owned 2 super dukes! Love all the power and torque below 9500 and only 460 pounds. Torque Monster, no engine mods needed! Both Torque and horsepower in one motor!
I don't understand why every review slams KTM for not including the tech pack. Look at the price of a Ducati SF V4S, Tuono etc. When you add the tech pack it brings the KTM to the same price range. Not everybody wants the the tech pack, most will I am sure but no all. This gives options. The SF V4s has no gas gauge, no cruise control and a few other other features yet it is $25k. I can tell you this, I rode em all and chose the KTM SD Evo, I negotiated in the tech pack, added heated grips and will add the heated seat and it will still be substantially less tan the SF V4S. All in all the SD is the best naked for the road, best tech, best fuel range, best suspension, most comfortable and most fun. I am not a KTM fanboy, although I have enjoyed every KTM I have had. I own many others and love them all but as far as nakeds the EVO is the one to buy. If you are a track guy none of he nakeds are as good as a liter bike.......that would be a tough call and a good excuse to go try them all!!
Appreciate the effort but sounds like you read it off a sheet and you mentioned nothing unique, sounds like every other generic review, also seen this footage a 100 times by now.... film your own
KTM is out here holding wheelies hostage for a hefty ransom, you have to pay extra for the stupid performance and track packs that should come with the bike..
The bikes are pretty competent bone stock. The Chinese made Akrapovic muffler/exhaust is the biggest rip off! I can build you a complete stainless system for the price of the Chinese can!
@@theoriginalmungaman wtf are you talking about all akra products are produced in their factory in Slovenia, they even have their own titanium source so they control the production from a to z, they are the best in the bizz and yes, you pay for that, i for one went for austin racing :D
That looks like KTM footage to me with a Visor Down voice over; or at least it was until I stopped watching. Forget your camera? Were you even in Spain?
@@visordown But that is stock footage isn't it? Why do you not have any of your own? Were there some issues with the video that you did take? Just curious.
@@scottyspeedoo5885 The freelance writer on this launch isn't comfortable in front of the camera so we asked KTM to supply stock footage. the V/O was compiled from the journalists review. You can read that here: www.visordown.com/reviews/first-ride/ktm-1290-super-duke-r-2020-review
@visordown you realise how dodgy your reason for posting KTM footage sounds right? That’s a KTM test rider in KTM leathers. From the comments, many viewers are complimenting you on your great new camera work; you’ve even picked up a new subscriber or two based on work that isn’t yours. I’m a subscriber myself and I like some of your journos like “Toad” but I think it was a mistake not to be upfront about the video and tell viewers from the start that you were using KTM footage. Or use a more suitable journo. One of your competitors has stepped up by using Chris Northover, who is one of the best. There are many freelancers out there
@@bruceleong9534 VisorDown, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt originally but now I see you have released another recycled footage video so I now struggle with your excuse that Ollie is not comfortable in front of the camera. First off, it would be quite the glaring skills gap for a video journalist to be "uncomfortable" in front of the camera, but now you seem to be continually releasing new videos without having to invest in new video production. I get it, why not release new content that doesn't cost much. A greater return for you. But lets be up front about this please. This no different than opinion pieces from all the RUclips hacks out there. Just be upfront that these videos are opinion pieces and not professional journalistic reviews. Disappointing. I have no issue with the legit review from Toad and others but this video is deceiving especially considering, as Bruce has pointed out, you are so quick to accept praise for content that you did not create. Unsubscribed.
Never been impress with a burnout 1 bit but I am a grumpy bugger. Move this bike the more I see it. Should of gone for this rather than Triumph speed triple RS.
Superduke R will remain the king of hyper naked Every other hyper naked took their flagship supersport removed the fairing and slapped on a flat bar that’s the work they’ve done If you want a Ducati V4 get the Panigale If you want a Aprilia V4 get the RSV4 If you want a hyper naked that’ll make you giggle like a little girl everyday get the 1290 Superduke R
If thats your perception of these bujes you never ride ant of them, tuono will kick the sdr in track (i have a sdr 2018) and the sf v4 will probably do it to, the only chance of the sdr is the street.
@@ricardorodrigues3508 I got rid of my 17' Aprilia tuono factory, it's just a superbike with handlebars. Great bike but really a track bike with handlebars. I bet the SDR is better for street?
@@ricardorodrigues3508 as a business who would you think is the bigger market...track riders or street riders? This is where the KTM is king and throw in a track day for absolute hilarity. If you want to be a competitive track rider get an actual Super Bike with slicks...
On track you won’t be capable of extracting the differences between the SDR and the Tuono, hot air is all ur taking. Buy the one you like the look of or enjoy riding the best. I’ve just bought a new gen3 SDR and I will love every mile I ride on it, would a Tuono be slightly quicker on track? Maybe, but who gives a shit
Too bad KTM just doesn't understand "fugly". Looks like a $20K kids toy. Just put some smooth, aero plastic on it and a 1/2 fairing. Then you can enjoy the over 100mph speeds where this thing lives. Naked and 180hp? Feels like a rope around your neck when leathers fill with air over 120mph.
So, the previous model which everyone raved about at the time and which was described as a 'tool' now flexes and squats and is vague and the frame isn't up to the job, whereas the NEW model has no faults whatsoever, apparently. What WILL this poor chap have to say in 3 years time when The Beast 4 comes out? This review was more like an add for KTM. I just unsubscribed.
a comparison between the super nakeds will be more than welcome 👽
We're open to suggestions
@@visordown grab a super duke r, Z H2, MT 10SP, S1000r, Tuono V4, Brutale 1000 streetfighter v4 or a monster 1200 R and do your thing
@@ROmaniac21 Don't forget to include top speed, 1/4 mile drag strip testing, engine vibration,comparisons, over all comfort, roll -on racing, price and brand reliability.
@@stevesmith6236 Ball sack temperature would be useful for Ducati aficionados.
@@stevesmith6236 I'm in the Pacific Northwest. It's about 5 hours to the nearest Ducati dealer, north or south. I have a KTM dealer within 15 minutes. Not that I would buy a Duck if they were closer. Desmo seems like a stupid complication to me but the Duck lovers will happily tell you how great they are. The Panigale twins were notorious for cooking crotches. That post was a slight dig at the Duck lovers. I've never had an Italian bike but if I did it would be an Aprilia.
Voice over KTM launch footage, did you even go?
It gets worse LCR. Their latest video is another recycled footage piece with voice over comparing the Triumph Tiger and the Yamaha Tenere. Unfortunately this seems to be a trend with Visordown. An obvious tactic to get views without actually producing original content. A shame as Visordown was once a reputable source.
Mr. Chops we are pretty well same age and love of bikes, I was the one that ask should I go for the H2sxse+. Now my 2008 ZX-14 turbocharged getting, little old, it's my touring missile. I want something like this nutty bike, no electronic suspension and can't believe you got pay not have anti wheelie, lol. Cheers🇨🇦
What a great review! I love that you mentioned some stuff that other reviewers completely ignored like needing the track package to be able to adjust wheelie control without turning TC off, or the fact that it doen's come with a QS as starndard feature (WTH KTM?!)
I have owned 2 super dukes! Love all the power and torque below 9500 and only 460 pounds. Torque Monster, no engine mods needed! Both Torque and horsepower in one motor!
Great video Visordown! Looking forward to watch a comparison between the Zh2, the streetfighter and this new super duke!
That will happen very soon 😉
@@visordown And thank you KTM for the footage......
I ride Duke 390 2016. What a joy to ride that little mean machine. And THIS IS MY DREAM BIKE. 😬
I don't understand why every review slams KTM for not including the tech pack. Look at the price of a Ducati SF V4S, Tuono etc. When you add the tech pack it brings the KTM to the same price range. Not everybody wants the the tech pack, most will I am sure but no all. This gives options. The SF V4s has no gas gauge, no cruise control and a few other other features yet it is $25k. I can tell you this, I rode em all and chose the KTM SD Evo, I negotiated in the tech pack, added heated grips and will add the heated seat and it will still be substantially less tan the SF V4S. All in all the SD is the best naked for the road, best tech, best fuel range, best suspension, most comfortable and most fun. I am not a KTM fanboy, although I have enjoyed every KTM I have had. I own many others and love them all but as far as nakeds the EVO is the one to buy. If you are a track guy none of he nakeds are as good as a liter bike.......that would be a tough call and a good excuse to go try them all!!
One day I will ride well enough to move up to a big bike. For now I am sticking to my 696 Monster. That has me pooping my pants often enough.
This Super Duke Is pure form of love 🤩❤️
Awesome will be buying next year
I’ve already ordered the SF V4S, but I’m kinda crushing on the matte blue here.
That frame looks like a direct lift from RC8.
The quality of This channel is raising everyday. Really enjoy all your latest videos. Honest and entertaining. 👏🏻👏🏻
Very true. I was watching some their videos and was pleasantly surprised by their production value.
Thanks both!
I'm looking into buying a new bike what would be more fun for the road one of these or a superbike
The wheelie king ! Simple as that !
Totally agree
Just waited another 2 model more updates for engine and chassis tweaks then is awesome well sorted bike 🏍
hows d vibration compare to sdr 2.0?
3 point OH...Why not just Mark 3?
People seem remarkably cavalier about breathing rubber smoke.
Why do KTM make you pay more for the equipment already aboard?
Thats pretty dumb
Luv the KTM's,...they're bikes have great character.
Really nice quality guys, thanks! 🧡🖤👍🏼
Thank you very much!
Appreciate the effort but sounds like you read it off a sheet and you mentioned nothing unique, sounds like every other generic review, also seen this footage a 100 times by now.... film your own
KTM is out here holding wheelies hostage for a hefty ransom, you have to pay extra for the stupid performance and track packs that should come with the bike..
You could look at it that way or if only 50% of owners opt for the kit, the owners who don't save some cash on the RRP!
Yea but it’s not a Super Duke without them. the bikes are great but KTM sucks.
The bikes are pretty competent bone stock. The Chinese made Akrapovic muffler/exhaust is the biggest rip off! I can build you a complete stainless system for the price of the Chinese can!
@@theoriginalmungaman wtf are you talking about all akra products are produced in their factory in Slovenia, they even have their own titanium source so they control the production from a to z, they are the best in the bizz and yes, you pay for that, i for one went for austin racing :D
@@theoriginalmungaman that's that coronavirus talking....
I hate the sound of V-twins with a quiet exhaust.. At least in videos they just sound small and ugh...
That looks like KTM footage to me with a Visor Down voice over; or at least it was until I stopped watching. Forget your camera? Were you even in Spain?
Yes, in Algarve, Portugal
@@visordown But that is stock footage isn't it? Why do you not have any of your own? Were there some issues with the video that you did take? Just curious.
@@scottyspeedoo5885 The freelance writer on this launch isn't comfortable in front of the camera so we asked KTM to supply stock footage. the V/O was compiled from the journalists review. You can read that here: www.visordown.com/reviews/first-ride/ktm-1290-super-duke-r-2020-review
@visordown you realise how dodgy your reason for posting KTM footage sounds right? That’s a KTM test rider in KTM leathers. From the comments, many viewers are complimenting you on your great new camera work; you’ve even picked up a new subscriber or two based on work that isn’t yours. I’m a subscriber myself and I like some of your journos like “Toad” but I think it was a mistake not to be upfront about the video and tell viewers from the start that you were using KTM footage. Or use a more suitable journo. One of your competitors has stepped up by using Chris Northover, who is one of the best. There are many freelancers out there
@@bruceleong9534 VisorDown, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt originally but now I see you have released another recycled footage video so I now struggle with your excuse that Ollie is not comfortable in front of the camera. First off, it would be quite the glaring skills gap for a video journalist to be "uncomfortable" in front of the camera, but now you seem to be continually releasing new videos without having to invest in new video production. I get it, why not release new content that doesn't cost much. A greater return for you. But lets be up front about this please. This no different than opinion pieces from all the RUclips hacks out there. Just be upfront that these videos are opinion pieces and not professional journalistic reviews. Disappointing. I have no issue with the legit review from Toad and others but this video is deceiving especially considering, as Bruce has pointed out, you are so quick to accept praise for content that you did not create.
Unsubscribed.
Never been impress with a burnout 1 bit but I am a grumpy bugger. Move this bike the more I see it. Should of gone for this rather than Triumph speed triple RS.
Love them crazy bike, remind me of the 2004 Ninja ZX10R, you got pay for the anti wheelie, lol.
If they make the 2021 with 210 hp I'm buying it cash 💰
A Buellesque bikini fairing would direct the wind over your head making a huge difference!
This is not a review, this is not your footage. Highly bogus.
Aweful review. Look at the other Superduke reviews guys, from people who knows what they are talking about..
Nice bike
Who in the hell designed that headlight? Looks like one of the bugs from Starship Troupers movie. YUCK!
Steve Smith
Most will only ever see the rear of this thing, so don’t worry too much about the head light aesthetics.
Aerodynamics dude😂😂
@@andrewlangley9507 Key word is "most", but not all. Doesn't change how fugly it is when stopped or parked.
Kinda makes me wanna buy it more now 😂
I think it looks utterly wicked.. To each their own.
Superduke R will remain the king of hyper naked
Every other hyper naked took their flagship supersport removed the fairing and slapped on a flat bar that’s the work they’ve done
If you want a Ducati V4 get the Panigale
If you want a Aprilia V4 get the RSV4
If you want a hyper naked that’ll make you giggle like a little girl everyday get the 1290 Superduke R
If thats your perception of these bujes you never ride ant of them, tuono will kick the sdr in track (i have a sdr 2018) and the sf v4 will probably do it to, the only chance of the sdr is the street.
@@ricardorodrigues3508 I got rid of my 17' Aprilia tuono factory, it's just a superbike with handlebars. Great bike but really a track bike with handlebars. I bet the SDR is better for street?
@@ricardorodrigues3508 as a business who would you think is the bigger market...track riders or street riders? This is where the KTM is king and throw in a track day for absolute hilarity. If you want to be a competitive track rider get an actual Super Bike with slicks...
On track you won’t be capable of extracting the differences between the SDR and the Tuono, hot air is all ur taking. Buy the one you like the look of or enjoy riding the best. I’ve just bought a new gen3 SDR and I will love every mile I ride on it, would a Tuono be slightly quicker on track? Maybe, but who gives a shit
3 point Oh. WTF? Why not just mark 3?
KTM need to create a bike that is more powerful than h2r
How
If supersexy was a thing
Too bad KTM just doesn't understand "fugly". Looks like a $20K kids toy. Just put some smooth, aero plastic on it and a 1/2 fairing. Then you can enjoy the over 100mph speeds where this thing lives. Naked and 180hp? Feels like a rope around your neck when leathers fill with air over 120mph.
So, the previous model which everyone raved about at the time and which was described as a 'tool' now flexes and squats and is vague and the frame isn't up to the job, whereas the NEW model has no faults whatsoever, apparently. What WILL this poor chap have to say in 3 years time when The Beast 4 comes out? This review was more like an add for KTM. I just unsubscribed.
Super an u or hero of bike driving