MLS teams should participate in the US open cup 🏆, especially since it gets you a spot in the CONCACAF Champions Cup tournament. It's foolish for them, if I'm an owner, I want to take every chance that my team has to win a trophy I don't care what tournament it is. I'll add it to my collection and on the display case.
its always been mixed about MLS teams taking it seriously, with some only doing so if they do make it to further rounds. You would routinely see B teams as a lower league team playing against MLS teams. My team in NASL played Chivas, La Galaxy, FC Dallas multiple times in back to back years. It was not taken seriously by them until that final year. The reality is that this decision to change it was likely done because Messi is in the league. He absolutely would not be playing in US Open Cup games, but it wouldn't stop the hype from building and people selling tickets for $1k and then him not even being on the bench. Similar happened when we played LA Galaxy and we sold out the stadium for the chance to see David Beckham, who never even traveled with the team all 3 years. Who is the owner of Inter Miami? Exactly. Even the final year the Galaxy brought Donovan, Zardes, Juninho, Keane and we still beat them 1-0 and despite all those other stars coming Beckham did not. Messi would not. Tickets would resale at absurd prices. This is why the change was done.
WAS AT THE 4-2 WIN. One of the best moments and we really did get the tickets the night before. I’m so proud to be a New Mexico United fan. From day 1. Really special to see us getting recognition like this . SOMOS UNTIED!!!!
I'm an RSL fan currently living in New Mexico. I came into watching this video really wanting to defend my team and their loss in that Open Cup game, but came out with a different perspective. Original defense of RSL: - They brought mostly their "B" team, including some players that you almost never see getting a chance in league play. - This tournament isn't as big of a deal as it used to be. Coming into it now, I'll completely remove that second defense. Maybe management did see it that way, and if they did then that is an unfortunate mistake. The Open Cup is an opportunity to build US soccer to be bigger and better. That's what competition does. The first defense I still stand by, because RSL is an incredible team this year, and deserve to be on top in the West with how they are playing. However, I think it is almost less of a defense and more of a credit to USL and the talent there despite it not being as "high profile" as MLS right now. I think if RSL had fielded their typical first team the whole game then the result would have been different. But the fact that they didn't is a credit to USL and New Mexico United, because it shows that they were underestimated, and that maybe the gap between the leagues isn't as large as the Houston coach wants to make it seem. As an RSL fan that is riding a high, with my team sitting comfortably on top of the western conference... Great work, New Mexico! You're my USL team, and I hope you win on Tuesday to continue showing that USL deserves more credit!
More creative solutions are needed. I think they need to open up two weekends like they do in England. round of 64, 32 and 16 are played on Wed, Sat, and Wed. Then another weekend the quarters, semi and final on Wed, Sat, and Wed. That second weekend, you can have MLS matches scheduled but those in the semis will be rescheduled. It’s not that hard to find a solution and market this better
I will say some of the players RSL fielded were closers to a C team but on average it would be a B team. It was embarrassing as an RSL supporter but I’m always rooting for USL teams to do well cause it makes for a great story. Props to NMU for actually showing up.
I agree with him. The stance by the MLS is another example of stupidity in high positions in USA soccer. The US Open Cup is amazing because it shows that athletes are athletes and on any given day the underdog can be victorious. It makes for high drama a great viewing; it only adds to the sport.
I hope there's a path to a first division USL league, which at this time would require 12 clubs to start with that all have a 15k seat stadium to play in. I don't know if pro/rel is the way to go at the top tier, but I do think it can make sense at the semi pro and amateur level. For me personally, the best rivalry that USL can look forward to is with the CPL. They should set up a tournament, probably in the winter. But it's hosted in the south and southwest. That should be the thing that USL works on pursuing immediately.
Interesting. NM’s owner is one owner who’s having doubts about the USL pro/rel proposal which is understandable… USL’s idea is a closed pro/rel system. Yes USL can produce MLS-caliber players… but the issue is MLS is only interested in young Diego Luna types… it’s the mid 20’s players they don’t scout because the lack of sell-on potential.
Doubts? He has no doubt it is coming, he just knows American soccer needs to grow. Go back and listen. He wants it, he sees it, and he knows it's coming... MLS is scared. What to scared Billionaires do? Try to buy off competition
If MLS took this competition seriously, there wouldn’t be any USL teams left in the round of 16. Every MLS starts their B squad, even the pro next players .
The US Open Cup now is a perfect example of what football in the US is: a sport they care so little about that they call it “soccer” The fact they put their reserve teams in a major tournament with a Concachampions spot at stake is also beyond me 🤦♂️🙄 This is why I think Liga MX is better, and show more passion and motivation. Even though we see the Leagues Cup as a mediocre tournament, we still put our A team on the field because there is a spot for Concachampions. US top tier teams are throwing away a opportunity with the Open Cup
you are a veritable jackass, considering your commentary about usage of "Soccer".. I don't suppose you are even aware that it was the BRITS who coined the term, not Americans. Shortened from Association Football. THen the ENglish decided they wanted to be like other Europeans and switched to football.. Here in North America between various pro leagues in both USA and Canada, calling it "football" would make no sense and just confuse things. Coincidentally it isnt just USA/CAN taht call it soccer either. Even the Italians use a different name: Calcio.
If MLS doesn’t participate it risks the US Open Cup losing its status as another qualifier for the ConcaChampions. As much as I hate it, the MLS participation lends it regional legitimacy
@@antoniobanderas7810 For decades before MLS existed, the US Open Cup sent teams to CONCACAF Champions Cup. And oddly, many times the team DECLINED TO PARTICIPATE in CCC.
😢 why won't the MLS give away free advertising? It's just not fair that the biggest and best league in America won't publicize leagues with owners that didn't support MLS at its inception and still deride the league at every opportunity.
MLS teams should participate in the US open cup 🏆, especially since it gets you a spot in the CONCACAF Champions Cup tournament. It's foolish for them, if I'm an owner, I want to take every chance that my team has to win a trophy I don't care what tournament it is. I'll add it to my collection and on the display case.
That’s a good point. Usl is making significant gains
@@PAAKWAMEPAA USL will have reg/pro before MLS .. watch lol
its always been mixed about MLS teams taking it seriously, with some only doing so if they do make it to further rounds. You would routinely see B teams as a lower league team playing against MLS teams. My team in NASL played Chivas, La Galaxy, FC Dallas multiple times in back to back years. It was not taken seriously by them until that final year. The reality is that this decision to change it was likely done because Messi is in the league. He absolutely would not be playing in US Open Cup games, but it wouldn't stop the hype from building and people selling tickets for $1k and then him not even being on the bench. Similar happened when we played LA Galaxy and we sold out the stadium for the chance to see David Beckham, who never even traveled with the team all 3 years. Who is the owner of Inter Miami? Exactly. Even the final year the Galaxy brought Donovan, Zardes, Juninho, Keane and we still beat them 1-0 and despite all those other stars coming Beckham did not. Messi would not. Tickets would resale at absurd prices. This is why the change was done.
Yet USL people complain about it... 😂... they're better off if less MLS teams are on the tournament.
The mls should have relegations and let the usl promote
WAS AT THE 4-2 WIN. One of the best moments and we really did get the tickets the night before. I’m so proud to be a New Mexico United fan. From day 1. Really special to see us getting recognition like this . SOMOS UNTIED!!!!
I'm an RSL fan currently living in New Mexico. I came into watching this video really wanting to defend my team and their loss in that Open Cup game, but came out with a different perspective.
Original defense of RSL:
- They brought mostly their "B" team, including some players that you almost never see getting a chance in league play.
- This tournament isn't as big of a deal as it used to be.
Coming into it now, I'll completely remove that second defense. Maybe management did see it that way, and if they did then that is an unfortunate mistake. The Open Cup is an opportunity to build US soccer to be bigger and better. That's what competition does.
The first defense I still stand by, because RSL is an incredible team this year, and deserve to be on top in the West with how they are playing. However, I think it is almost less of a defense and more of a credit to USL and the talent there despite it not being as "high profile" as MLS right now.
I think if RSL had fielded their typical first team the whole game then the result would have been different. But the fact that they didn't is a credit to USL and New Mexico United, because it shows that they were underestimated, and that maybe the gap between the leagues isn't as large as the Houston coach wants to make it seem.
As an RSL fan that is riding a high, with my team sitting comfortably on top of the western conference... Great work, New Mexico! You're my USL team, and I hope you win on Tuesday to continue showing that USL deserves more credit!
More creative solutions are needed. I think they need to open up two weekends like they do in England. round of 64, 32 and 16 are played on Wed, Sat, and Wed. Then another weekend the quarters, semi and final on Wed, Sat, and Wed. That second weekend, you can have MLS matches scheduled but those in the semis will be rescheduled. It’s not that hard to find a solution and market this better
I will say some of the players RSL fielded were closers to a C team but on average it would be a B team. It was embarrassing as an RSL supporter but I’m always rooting for USL teams to do well cause it makes for a great story. Props to NMU for actually showing up.
RSL really didn’t care, imagine if they had won this they would have been gassed against the MLS clubs now. Rather fight for MLS Cup.
Making United proud 🖤💛
I agree with him. The stance by the MLS is another example of stupidity in high positions in USA soccer. The US Open Cup is amazing because it shows that athletes are athletes and on any given day the underdog can be victorious. It makes for high drama a great viewing; it only adds to the sport.
It's so fun going to nm untied matches. My mother hates sports but had fun going to a match when i brought her last week.
Love the SF Glens jersey
Well said Uncle Pete!
Cool owner
I hope there's a path to a first division USL league, which at this time would require 12 clubs to start with that all have a 15k seat stadium to play in. I don't know if pro/rel is the way to go at the top tier, but I do think it can make sense at the semi pro and amateur level. For me personally, the best rivalry that USL can look forward to is with the CPL. They should set up a tournament, probably in the winter. But it's hosted in the south and southwest. That should be the thing that USL works on pursuing immediately.
I think we should be like the rest of the world and teams should be relegated and promoted.
I gotta see the rest of his battle vest!
Interesting. NM’s owner is one owner who’s having doubts about the USL pro/rel proposal which is understandable… USL’s idea is a closed pro/rel system. Yes USL can produce MLS-caliber players… but the issue is MLS is only interested in young Diego Luna types… it’s the mid 20’s players they don’t scout because the lack of sell-on potential.
Doubts? He has no doubt it is coming, he just knows American soccer needs to grow. Go back and listen. He wants it, he sees it, and he knows it's coming... MLS is scared. What to scared Billionaires do? Try to buy off competition
Shocking News! USL Owner opposes MLS stance on USOC.
Of course he does. He is the primary beneficiary of MLS participation.
I believe any teams that do not join the US Open should be considered non-professional
If MLS took this competition seriously, there wouldn’t be any USL teams left in the round of 16. Every MLS starts their B squad, even the pro next players .
Tiene los cuadros de la familia peluche 😂
Please switch your lighting from white (cold) to white (warm) as otherwise your tan looks like that of "Data" in StarTrek. Thx for listening 🤐
Well we know who is paying Herc's pay check. Geez Herc.
The US Open Cup now is a perfect example of what football in the US is: a sport they care so little about that they call it “soccer”
The fact they put their reserve teams in a major tournament with
a Concachampions spot at stake is also beyond me 🤦♂️🙄
This is why I think Liga MX is better, and show more passion and motivation. Even though we see the Leagues Cup as a mediocre tournament, we still put our A team on the field because there is a spot for Concachampions. US top tier teams are throwing away a opportunity with the Open Cup
you are a veritable jackass, considering your commentary about usage of "Soccer".. I don't suppose you are even aware that it was the BRITS who coined the term, not Americans. Shortened from Association Football. THen the ENglish decided they wanted to be like other Europeans and switched to football.. Here in North America between various pro leagues in both USA and Canada, calling it "football" would make no sense and just confuse things.
Coincidentally it isnt just USA/CAN taht call it soccer either. Even the Italians use a different name: Calcio.
The term soccer was invented by the British and was used there until the 1990s.
US Open Cup has never mattered in the US sports landscape. All of this recent virtue-signaling about the USOC is fake and gross.
USL teams now have a BETTER CHANCE of Winning the US Open Cup and qualifying for ConcaChampions! Why complain about something POSITIVE???
If MLS doesn’t participate it risks the US Open Cup losing its status as another qualifier for the ConcaChampions. As much as I hate it, the MLS participation lends it regional legitimacy
@@arribalaschivas91 MLS are still participating in it. So what's the worry?
@@davidday2373 8 teams are NOT enough.
@@antoniobanderas7810 For decades before MLS existed, the US Open Cup sent teams to CONCACAF Champions Cup. And oddly, many times the team DECLINED TO PARTICIPATE in CCC.
@@davidday2373 different time and different places in history. We didn't even have a pro league for many of those years.
😢 why won't the MLS give away free advertising? It's just not fair that the biggest and best league in America won't publicize leagues with owners that didn't support MLS at its inception and still deride the league at every opportunity.