Older and more mature gymnasts are more likely to have opinions, know their boundaries, recognize toxic environments, etc. USAG back in the day needed young gymnasts because they needed people who wouldn't ask questions or stand up for themselves. They needed younger people who would be scared to ask questions or push back and made sure that anyone who did push back never got a chance.
@@anovemberstarI’m not agreeing or disagreeing, but ANYONE that is a public figure and is the idol to many hopeful children might want to rethink their choice of words, so to not set a bad example for them. If she wasn’t someone who people looked up to, well the fuck ‘em. Unfortunately, that’s not the role she is in. She’s the GOAT!
Yeah I thought it was interesting that Nassar knew better than to mess with certain girls. I think it's no coincidence the outspoken ones (outspoken at the time, not later) were the ones who say they weren't touched.
They needed the younger gymnasts who had little experience on the international stage bc they believed that this is what they had to do to get the medals. All the abuse and toxic environment they had to endure, I’m sure they thought that they had to go through all that to get the medals and to succeed. And the ones that might’ve recognized that something was wrong, many of them probably kept quiet because they wanted to succeed so badly. Maggie Nichols was one of the first to speak out in 2015, but she got shut down. Her speaking out probably contributed to her not making the Olympic team in 2016. If you go back and watch the competitions and Olympic trials leading up to the 2016 Olympics, she overall had great performances and showed good consistency, but she didn’t even get an alternate position. At the time, it really didn’t make much sense that she didn’t get at least an alternate position because she was a top contender and did well. So I think the example of Maggie speaking out and getting these things ripped away from her because of it showed why people were afraid to speak out because they didn’t want the same thing to happen to them. On top of that, winning medals was drilled into the athletes as the most important thing over anything else including their mental and physical health. Overall, the system was extremely toxic and it really did not allow for older and more mature athletes to come back because many became burned out, so physically injured, or they just didn’t want to go back to the toxic environment now that they got out and see how draining it was. But now, there are so many older athletes competing that are well into their 20s which I find amazing. Like Shawn said, it just shows how much the culture has changed for the better and it’s allowing for more athletes to enjoy their sport for longer.
How much you both publicly compliment and support each other is heartwarming ❤ Thank you for being such inspirations, and talking openly about counseling
Shawn, LONG story short, going to Olympic Trials in 2008 saved my life. I had to go to a new eye doc to get new contacts in time for that trip to Philadelphia and he spotted something that literally over 2 dozen other doctors missed. Days prior to leaving for Trials I was diagnosed with a disease that I've since had 10 brain surgeries for and I live with brain tumor symptoms every moment of my life. I was 21 and that week of Trials I was awaiting confirmation of a life-altering diagnosis with no cure. Trials gave me a distraction and you were a big part of that. Your smile was contagious. Thank you! (PS - Andrew, my hometown team is Washington, family held season tickets for decades, and I am thrilled we were the team you got to play for! HTTR!)
Just to clarify for you-- Gabby can only do 3 events at championship. She did not get her AA qualifying score and can not petition at this point. So if she decides to go, she can do vault, beam, and bars.
Listening to your experience at Chow's makes my heart sing for you and others. I watched your episode where you go back with your family, but I didn't really get 100% your devotion and experience like I am understanding it now. What an amazing place!
Watch Simone’s Call her Daddy interview then go back and watch her hubby on the Pivot podcast and that’ll pretty but explain it all. It was EVERYWHERE and so ridiculous when you realize she was in the room laughing off camera. Ijs…oh and still praying for my dream pod w/Shawn and Simone!!!!
Y'all are just the cutest family & very down to earth. I'm impressed that y'all are open about some of your struggles. & the fact you are very open about counseling. You have no idea how that helps other moms & couples. Thanks for what y'all do,
I disagree with Dad. Mom was right. We love Simone. We need to focus on Simone. That’s it. Everyone else needs to leave her husband alone. Simone is putting her foot down. That shows courage & strength & confidence!
Being a former gymnastics coach, the idea of "shopping" your gymnastics skills, made me so excited. I wish I knew that when I was a coach. Thanks for sharing!
The tearing down their marriages are cause it’s this far extreme feminist to want to claim men are abusive and that see all the signs. They are annoying
4:06 didn’t Alicia compete till she was 24? Aly Raisman till she was 22? This was all before Marta retired where these ideas would be blatant. Also I think Shannon miller was 23, Dominique Dawes was 23, Annia Hatch 26, Mohini Bhardwaj 25. I do know that they tend to lean more in favor on the younger side but they didn’t shy away when older girls showed promise. Also “overweight” gymnasts never existed. You cannot be an elite gymnast and be obese. Those ideas were created by insane unrealistic ideas of body standards. Long story short is if your doctor doesn’t determine you overweight then you aren’t . Coaches and others in charge are delusional and spread sickness this way.
I know you think people are just injecting themselves in Simone’s marriage but what was out out on social media about her husband and words that came out of his mouth is why I believe people think he isn’t good enough for her. I think people don’t mean her harm, they simply think she doesn’t deserve him and deserves better. Is it their business, no of course not. But he made it everyone business with the way he responded to a question about his marriage to her. She is without a doubt one of the GOATS of gymnastics and people feel a sense of wanting to protect her because they love her.
I have to say I agree with Andrew on this one. While Simone probably has every right to feel frustrated about the unnecessary comments about her husband - she is in the public eye and it is expected that people are going to make comments about her and her life. That is just the way people are. I don't agree with it, but this is just part of life. People make comments about other people's lives like this that are not celebrities. We all need to figure out how to cope. That being said, I am all for her feeling like she wants or needs to defend herself. While one of us might have to defend ourselves to just a few people in our lives, Simone is having to defend herself to millions of people who are making these comments. She can defend herself, and should. But as someone who is a public figure, the cussing and otherwise really foul language and tone of her message was off-putting. I can imagine it was off-putting to fans of hers that do agree people have been wrong to say those things, but didn't like her comment. I fall into that category. Being the best gymnast of all time doesn't really give her permission to be an asshole. And to be fair, this isn't just Simone that does stuff like this, many public figures do this as well, and I personally am not a fan of it. Others might not be bothered by it, and that is okay too. I get she should should always have the option to say whatever she wants, and I agree with that, but there is always that balancing act with how you can do that when you are a public figure. It doesn't mean she should walk on egg shells as to not offend anyone either. That isn't what I was referring to. But she could have used better messaging to stand up for her husband and her marriage and then moved on.
Celebrities are put at such a pedestal, which is ridiculous. We are all humans and we are all imperfect. A 20 something will react how a 20 something reacts, let them live. At the end of the day, she can’t please everyone at the same time, why not just do what you want at the moment. Especially when so many people are taught to just take the high road, no one is telling the cyber bulliers to back off. I’m glad she used her voice to set the boundaries instead of playing nice.
Wait - didnt Dominique Dawes do 3 - 1992, 1996, 2000, and Mohini Bhardwaj was almost 26 in 2004 Olympics? I dont think USA gymnastics had a thing going on about older gymnasts, or returning gymnasts. I do think that younger gymnasts were easier to frighten into the sort of behaviour that some in USA gymnastics wanted during a window in time that both Dominique and Mohini could resist because they had coaches who wanted the best for them, and the maturity to not crumble. We have seen coaches who will do anything to manipulate their students to benefit themselves, and a system that turned a blind eye to it. We have seen mature and returning gymnasts who have changed the system, and praise be for that. I have total admiration for the women and girls who have taken back control of a bullying, coercive and abusive system, but they have paid a huge and terrible price.
Andrew adores Shawn and everything he does and says online supports that. The gymnastic community is used to that kind of treatment by a spouse for our beloved athletes! Comments were made that sounded less than that, and people took offense because they only want Simone to be adored by her husband as Andrew adores Shawn. That being said, I agree that what we see online is a snapshot and not the whole picture. It is their marriage and people should not continue to interfere in such a disrespectful way. Obviously it’s hurting Simone, and if they really care about her they should stop.
Shawn I know you as an Olympic Gymnast that I stayed up late to watch that summer. I’ve always loved to watch Gymnastics during the summer Olympics. I rewatched your beam routine yesterday July 30, 2024 during this year’s 2024 Paris Olympics. I remember like it was yesterday, watching that routine! I was so in awe of your skills. I was a Nanny for 2 girls who started competing in dance around age 10. It’s a ton of dedication and HARD work. You are amazing as a mommy and wife I enjoy watching you and Andrew in the podcasts. Can’t wait to hear all about Paris ❤. Andrew was Paris a vibe? How was the experience? 😊 Peace ✌🏻
Actually a lot of people have compared the adoration Andrew has for Shawn to Jonathan for Simone and say Jonathan should be more like Andrew. I do think this is just people taking a parasocial relationship too far, fans are acting like we know Simone personally, when we don't. Also her response was human. This trolling has been going on for wayyy too long and to too large of an extent for her to ignore. People have made 100s of videos on it, it's always the top and most liked comments in her comment section. She turned off her comments for a while and that didn't work. Personally I love that she posted that story.
And you guys are definitely not feeding into it with this video. Shew wrote that she appreciates the positive comments through it all and you guys are adding positivity to the whole situation as well.
Simone shouldn’t have addressed that at all. Should’ve limited/blocked people in peace. That tiktok vid she made last month didn’t work either. All it did was invite more trolls.
@@FkaRon I actually think the tiktok video helped. I saw a lot less of videos on tiktok being made about her marriage after that. Some trolls definitely continued but it lessened. Already after her Instagra, story, one of the most liked comments under the post of her and her husband is someone saying "I was on the bandwagon of trolling before, but since Simone said she doesn't like it, we should all stop". Regardless, the response was human. She was rightfully hurt.
@@SunmiLearns Nah I gotta disagree lol. That tiktok vid has over 6k comments filled with troll comments. It was the same week the CHD interview came out and that audience was also chiming in.
Sooo hope to get to see Gabby compete again!! Everyone send her loving vibes❤❤ So appreciate Simone and earlier generations for making gymnastics healthier for our littles and showing us what having healthy boundaries looks like in action. Pray for the haters, they have more hate for themselves than those they criticize
Thank you both for giving Gabby the grace she deserves because I was there and I've seen her training and agree she looks more powerful than ever I mean she added new skills after all these years and boy on vault she flies now. And her being back Olympics or not I'm extremely proud of her. I truly hope she continues to train and compete next season because the way she looks she can offer a lot to team USA in the next quad
I 1,000 percent agree Shawn! I understand why not to keep feeding into the negative vibes, but I don’t remember ever hearing about other successful athletes spouses before this 👀
Love you both SO MUCH! The way Andrew celebrates Shawn is beautiful to see! It is a great measuring stick to hope to attain. To be the fan of each other! You guys ROCK!!!!
I really appreciate the commentary on community vs individualism, personal development, and reflection on BOTH negative and positive experiences that shapes the mentality we sustain through self image because these are really important things that I wish someone had conversed with me about when I was younger because I’m TOO aware of how the absence of them has left me deficient in fundamentals of healthy processing. I too developed a perfectionistic mindset to survive frankly impossible circumstances and unlearning the obsessive tendencies has been a labor of self love because the release of control TERRIFIES me but I am even more terrified of going the rest of my life burdened by the unrealistic expectations rooted in the feeling/belief that I have to perfect to be enough.
Wow, listening to Shawn talk about gymnastics is eye opening. I was a competitive gymnast also & it taught me a lot of life lessons also! Great podcast!! ❤
In regards to kids that go stir crazy, I was that kid but my parents couldn’t afford to put me in anything. I learned to create my own fun and activities, am a very independent and creative person. Now as an adult I see friends that are just learning what they actually enjoy, because it’s always been presented to them. Just a different perspective, and maybe a way to say they’ll be fine either way!
This is me and my husband in a nutshell. I had hours upon hours of structured activities growing up and every sport under the moon. My husband did not and made his own fun. It’s wild as an adult me exploring what I actually like and him already knowing haha.
Shawn has such a generous spirit and lifts up those around her and is such a force in supporting women’s gymnastics today. I agree with Andrew that Shawn’s voice is meaningful.
It makes me smile when I see the effort Andrew puts in to be able to discuss gymnastics, much appreciated man! I love everything you guys produce in terms of content, but I appreciate even more when you guys bring up gymnastics, knowing how very important Shawn is and ALWAYS will be when it comes to this sport. Her insightful inputs on the matter is always on point and filled with care and love for the sport, clearly. Well done guys!
Oh...comment 2... I'm amazed when I hear parents talk about planning tons of summer activities for their kids. My parents did none of that. Lol We played outdoors. End of story. In the woods, in creeks, swinging on grapevines, making mud pies, making a treehouse, playing with friends, playing with toys, playing games like Tag, Swing the Statue, Red Light Green Light, Mother May I, catching lightning bugs, watching a jar of frog eggs turn into tadpoles...😆 We were on our own...getting called in when it got dark, with chiggers and mosquito bites. Absolutely happy and tired. Occasional trips to parks and picnics. Not criticizing... It's just different. We weren't entertained ...we entertained ourselves. I guess we were a little older than your kids for that but when younger we just played a little more indoors under supervision. The activities do sound great though. Probably the difference in small town vs. big city advantages.
Oh my goodness I have found my people. How Shawn thinks is how deep I think and my husband and I get into deep chats like this about all sorts of things. I even surprise myself by how my brain thinks and over thinks. It’s almost computer like and always has been. I can appreciate the topics and the vulnerability of how real you all are. Normalizing couples therapy and single therapy, health on all levels, it’s refreshing
Thank you so much for giving your thoughts from your perspective on current day gymnastics! I would love to hear you talk more about the gymnasts, for me it helps put things in perspective… I have always loved gymnastics and love to see the gymnasts competing at older ages… It blows my mind that Simone Biles is 27 because when I was 10 and falling in love with Kim Zmeskal I remember I was so sad because I already thought I was too old to start… so to see these women staying in the sport and reaching levels in the sport that have never been reached is just so inspiring to me!! I always want to know if the level of skill that Simone Biles has achieved is seen by other Olympic gymnasts as something that makes her truly one of a kind , the first of her kind, or a combination of the two… the way it is presented and the way she competes just has me in awe it is exciting as a spectator to watch! Is it her ability to perform her skills both at the highest level and when it counts the most the combination of skills that make her so unbelievable and in a league of her own? How do you view it? I have so many questions so please keep talking about gymnastics… it’s an insiders view that is such a gift! Thanks for all that you share with your audience of your life ! Love you guys!
Putt putt, riding bikes at our local lake, open gym, swimming, zoo, children's museums, botanical garden, movies, bonfire, volunteering, baseball game, nature walks, splash pads, playground, arcade, home depot and lowes Saturday morning workshops, make your own ice cream and so many other fun ideas!!!
My mom turned grocery shopping into an activity for my brother and me when we were young. Could she have rushed through the store? Sure. By involving us, we did not whine. It was like a treasure hunt to find the ingredients for meals. We watched for child-friendly events at every local museum, the library, and event venue near us. The kids saw farming, participated in various science events, and when the fire stations did tours of the trucks, we went. Free band and orchestra concerts. We would find out where youth baseball and softball were playing and bring a picnic. We knew none of the players and cheered for everyone who hit the ball or scored. Colleges had free student recitals we attended and we appropriately applauded. Most events were free or very low cost. My budget was small so I scouted around for activities. My kids were born in 87 and 89 so the internet was not as robust as it is now.
Your mum is so clever! You can def turn grocery shopping into a game. Even ordinary activities like cooking and cleaning can be fun for kids. They actually do wanna help if you cater to their level!
Loved this episode! But would also have loved to hear analysis about some of the other gymnasts beyond Simone and Gabby (Shilese, Suni, Jade, Jordan, etc.) …even if just some quick thoughts for a few minutes. They have incredible stories as well!
People just need to stop acting like they "own" other people. Simone owes NO ONE ANYTHING, who she dates, how she trains, what makeup or hair style she does, how much chalk she uses, etc. She owes them NOTHING, and they literally do NOT stop, sometimes the only option to defend yourself is to bite back, and no one is immune to being provoked, we are human. Much love!
I don’t disagree with y’all about Simone’s marriage, I think fans are sooo protective of her, kinda reminds me of the Swifties. We know everything she’s gone through, she deserves a partner that respects her 100%. He definitely came across arrogant in the interview.
Love you Shawn. Been watching gymnastics since 1996 ~ almost religiously because i love it so much. I remember watching you and others as a junior and then as a senior and aside from of course your fantastic gymnastics, you were then as you are now humble. You stood out for this to me. You had this aura about you that was just pure and humble and watching this video and following you on IG, you still are this humble pure person that shines. Your comments about Gabby and Simone are so classy too. Thanks for being such a great role model. Hugs from Korea 😊
I watched the core classic to see Jade Carey, Shilese Jones, and Jordan Chiles tbh, not Simone. We already know she's the best and we already know she's a lock for Paris. I wanted to see who else might be serious contenders.
Your channel came to me because of gymnastics. If y’all talk about different things, I don’t know. At first, I didn’t recognize you and was wondering how do you know so much about gymnastics. It would be great if yall somehow used your names as identifiers. I was happy to figure out who you were. I loved that commercial with your mom and you’re walking on your hands by the kitchen. That was so funny! On the serious side, you have to give people time to shake their heads and get used to the idea that a still competitive gymnast is married. We knew that when you are 20, it’s about age out time. puberty is postponed in a gymnast’s body (men and women’s,) so when you retire, that is when you date and get married. That’s very old school thinking and older people are still adjusting to that. A couple of other things that we ask patience for is letting us old school gymnasts get used to the fact that girls go to college on scholarship AND still are able to compete in the amateur sports. That won’t take too long to get used to, but you have to agree, we are in the infancy of that stage of competition. Other things that college gymnasts bring to the table that I’m not a fan of is their style changes. First, they are just wrapping up their hair on top of their heads like they just go out of bed, didn’t shower, are wearing their fuzzy house slippers and robe to go get the mail. EEK! When they do that, it seems like they have no self respect or respect for the judges or their fan base. I saw Simone’s hair like that and thought, oh, that’s not a good look. (I hated it on Nastia, too.) Then she was at a different meet with a simple ponytail and I respected her so much more! First impressions are so important. Next, they are bringing their college style of music with them to the amateur competitions. As a music educator and dance instructor (and former gymnast,) there is no musicality to what they bring to us. There is no depth in the musical selection, so there is no depth to the choreography, hence lower artistic impression scores. I believe the only one I see that I can’t wait to see her floor routine again is Shailese Jones. She will proudly represent the U.S. at the Olympic Games and I can’t wait to see how her floor routine grows. (I’ve always believed that Shannon M’s floor routine was far superior to Kim Z’s.) Pretty much anyone else… meh. 🫤 I am allowed to have my opinions just as much as competing gymnasts have the rights to choose whichever style of music they want, and I will support them. I wish they would postpone the college routines to the college of their choice and they will get their easy 10. (I see that quite a bit in college gymnastics. Too many 10’s. So many that they really don’t hold the same weight as they used to.) As for Gabby, I’ve seen footage of her practicing her new release sequence on the high bar and she nailed it each time!! I couldn’t wait to see her do it in competition, and then core happened. I was still so proud of her. I know she has it. I’ve seen it. But I don’t understand why she scratched the other events. (?) She is such a HISTORICAL figure and I admire everything she does. She has the talent to win medals at the Olympics. I pray she brings her confidence and strength with her and not let core hold her back. She’s gonna make the Olympics! I love her and my eyes will be glued to the tv set wearing a Gabby shirt!! (😢By the way… I don’t even know who Simone is married to. I heard y’all say some athlete. I hope she is as happy as she can be in her life!) Simone has the complete package to get gold AA this year, but she needs to keep her head in at all times so that she can stick her landings. I’m a little worried that she has learned bad habits by blowing off her bad landings, like she did at core. When Flo-Jo was sprinting, she didn’t stop running when she hit the tape. She knew she had to go THROUGH the tape and finish at the end of the track. I admired her mental mindset when it came to competitions. I’m not seeing Simone run through the tape. Thanks for letting me share some old timer’s thoughts! I wish you were still competing!
to be clear, the "expectations" aren't around him being "good enough" to be with simone biles tho, it's that his comments were (understandably) perceived by women as disrespectful and somewhat sexist. i think the social media harassment is super excessive, but at the same time, it feels VERY fair to judge someone's comments made on a *public podcast*
I think it's great "older" young gymnasts are competing. They have nothing to prove...they've already done it. They'll display their strength, skills, talent and determination to an admiring audience. I hope all of them do well! "Andrew Dean!!!" 😂😂😂
Chow's approach regarding the whole "it's a competition against yourself" thing has an interesting effect. It means that you aren't LIMITED by your competition. In other words, if you know someone's got a 12 and you need a 12.1 to beat them, you're aiming for 12.1. But you may be capable of higher. Yet knowing what you have to make to beat them means you're pushing for juuuuuuust beyond them. When it's against yourself, you're pushing as far as you possibly can. You're not held back by the bar SOMEONE ELSE has set.
There is a dynamic between Black men and Black women that adds a nuance to this you may be missing. Your point is well taken, but if THAT many people were upset on her behalf, there may have been something to it. Just consider that possibility is all I’m saying.
I am completely over the interview from months ago and was glad to see him there cheering her on. All I want for her is success and happiness. But his comments were jarring to me. It may hit different for me, but I think giving an interview to people about how you see your wife will draw criticism if it isn’t flattering.
Dannnngit!!! Was looking forward to the bar routine and yes even though I’ve of course seen it before- I’d have LOVED to see it again here. Gotta agree with Andrew on this one. ❤
Btw, while watching the gymnastics comps recently, all I could think about (aside from how great the girls were, is hoping Shawn and Andrew would do a recap watch party. Ijs! I love & truly respect Shawn’s game sooo much, it is always an honor to hear her speak on not only (and including) her greatness, but also the ones who came behind her (any maybe even before her). Let’s go 2024 Olympic Games!!!! 🫶🏽💐💐💐💐💐🙏🏾
Andrew - could you, as a spouse, truly ignore it if THOUSANDS of people were slamming and trolling Shawn??? We're not talking about a few dozen people you guys might get in your comments- we're talking on a whole new level, beyond what any of us could fathom. I think it's great she spoke up. It was on stories, so gone after 24 hours (yes, screenshots etc, but no longer on her social media). I doubt she will engage continuously with the trolls.
I again have listened to this podcast hoping I would agree and enjoy it! I enjoyed some of it this time . However, Shawn sometimes acts like she lives in this bubble where nothing bad is supposed to happen . I think Andrew hit the nail on the head when he was talking about Simone and how by talking about it on the podcast they were feeding into it. Also, if you are going to post, you are going to be criticized . It is just how it is . Not to be mean, but being famous, you sign up for criticism . You have to just have the coping skills to ignore it and focus on yourself.
Same for average people. Youre on social media, and you are forfeiting the same things. Rich or poor, same thing. Kinda hypocritical if people think it only applies to celebs and the rich.
Hey- the first 4 minutes. You said gabby, suni lee, gabby. How about jade carey who metalled? Simone- i love her and all her skills. I just hope she can go through all the way!
I am curious, I am fairly new to your channel, well I have subscribed for a while, but I do not watch that often.( I should say not because of you guys, but I have a busy life as well) Having said that, have you seen those guys from Europe doing different gymnastic challenges? I recently watched them try to do Nadias bar routine. I also watched them try to do a cartwheel on the uneven bars.
I think the importance of getting Chellsie into a leadership position within USAG cannot be overemphasized. Within figure skating, you saw the shift away from 14 and 15-year-olds (due to rules changes), which hopefully is encouraging some changes in attitudes toward training. I'm very hopeful that gymnastics will make some changes in training paradigms that allow athletes to peak later when they have more mental maturity. Now if we can just get ballet on board...
Theyre not trolling Gabby. People are just not expecting her to make the team this late in the game, and her pulling out after one rotation doesn't give the appearance of loving the sport or fighting her way to the top. It makes me think of how she was in the stands at the 2016 games with a scowl on her face and a lack of sportsmanship towards her teammates. It's hard to cheer for her when she walks out like that.
@@FkaRon. She’s the classic example of a people pleaser. I watch an interview last month and she talked about what happened when she did her first vault that could have been deadly but instead of her worrying about her safety she was worried about what Twitter would say and the team. If this happened during the time of the Karolyi’s she could have had injuries from being forced to compete and the team would most likely not make the podium too. It was a damn if you do damn if you don’t with the coach potato chip eats as she calls it. There are people still talking nonsense about the situation. The gymnasts are humans not robots. So hopefully she will get away from being a people pleaser and take care of herself and do this for herself!
Simone is one BA GOAT and people really need to just keep things they know nothing about to them self! I saw what you read yesterday and I was so upset and mad because of it. As for her having to deal with that pressure I can't think of anyone but you Shawn that could relate what it feels like to have so much pressure on your shoulders than you. Sadly you had so much weight put on you from just the higher ups and the people of Iowa to do better, be better bring home all gold. At the time to me it felt like it was almost threatening if you didn't bring home nothing but gold which was sad. And then for the main one that was pushing it 24/7 never to of apologize for it or at least no publicly and dropped you like you never existed. I will be cheering team USA from my chair and I'll smile, laugh, yell and cry with all of them. But more than anything I'll be happy they gave their all, everything they had and left it there on the floor no matter what they did or didn't bring back to their homes. Blessings!
can't be stated enough that extending athlete engagement into adulthood ought to reduce the ability for abusive set-ups to establish unchecked power over successive generations of juvenile athletes
Its a bit of a drive for you guys but a little south of Nashville, in Columbia, TN, there is a place called aMuse'um Children's Museum. I think your kids would love love love it!!! Yall could walk around our cutie little downtown afterwards, get some icecream and there's some adorable kids shops, too. I think it would be an amazing summer afternoon! Check it out! ❤️
Andrew, Simone making a statement to the haters in that way isn’t the same as feeding into the comments because I think many of the haters saying negative things about her husband are doing it (they think) in defense of her. I believe she wrote that to tell her followers to stop “defending” me by putting down my husband because it’s actually hurting me too. She probably hopes by explaining it like that that people who actually do want to support her will stop making mean comments about him/their marriage. I think most of the people who’ve made comments such as saying he isn’t good enough for her are doing so because they think she’s amazing and deserves someone who thinks she’s the greatest catch (and from the interview he did it seems he might not think this way). No, people should not be tearing their relationship apart especially because no one actually knows them as a couple on a personal level, but I think most of the mean-spirited comments about him were from people trying to stand up for her.
Shawn, both you and Simone are showing your naïveté about the human condition. People who don’t have a good sense of self, will always find ways to try and tear people down on social media, and in life. Simone should have never responded by telling trolls on the internet to “eff off.” She lowered herself to their level. Shawn’s husband advice of not responding to trolls on Social, are so appropriate. One never gives negative comments any chance of blowing up. Simply ignore the trolls. They will simply have no life.
People were only concerned for Biles because he did an interview that was TOTALLY disrespectful to her and had a lot of red flags in it. I think people just care but dont realize that though he may have some red flags that outside people see, its up to her. If he has issues then they can work them out. That is what is not anyone's business but I do think people were just concerned because that interview and few other things were extremely rude to her and self absorbed. I agree with Andrew on her response. She has really came to light as the b word of gymnastics because of things she has said. Though she has EVERY right to say something she is a role model and she is in the public eye so honestly she should just delete them and move along and do her. I was a gymnast in the 90s it and was TOTALLY different. I wish it was then like now so the girls today have so much more then before and its great! So that is the best thing for me is to see the older girls being the leaders. Not just in the US but also we see it now in all countries including China which is wild. So good things are happening.
idk if you read these, but i recently made a comment else ware that it makes me tear up a bit seeing someone like reese esponda be able to make a goofy "whoopsie" face after a wobble on beam or talk to her coach in high spirits right after her salute on her now famous "save queen" bars performance at core classics...thinking how if this were 10 or 15 years ago we probably would have seen fear in her eyes, dread on her face knowing marta was watching
I completely agree with you Andrew, I feel Shawn does not give herself enough credit she was much better on beam then Simone, I love Simone but Shawn would crush her if they were at that time to compete together.
@@DogHairRules lol okay I wasn't sure because you said two events. Gabby qualified for three events at Nationals and can try to petition for all-around at trials if she wants next week is going to be interesting!
I think men are just more inclined to boast about their achievements than women are in general, I'm definitely with you Shawn I would feel the same way almost 20 years removed from my gymnastics career lol. But it is sweet of him!
I so appreciate your comments about Gabby and about Simone's marriage. It breaks my heart to see how eager people are to tear apart others. 😢
I first read that as "about Gabby and Simones marriage" 💀
@@darklight1030me too!!! 🤣
@@darklight1030yeah. Commas are good. Punctuation is underrated.
Older and more mature gymnasts are more likely to have opinions, know their boundaries, recognize toxic environments, etc. USAG back in the day needed young gymnasts because they needed people who wouldn't ask questions or stand up for themselves. They needed younger people who would be scared to ask questions or push back and made sure that anyone who did push back never got a chance.
Yep - can you IMAGINE the response of USAG 10 years ago if a gymnast.used the 'f' word in a social media platform 😂.
@@anovemberstarI’m not agreeing or disagreeing, but ANYONE that is a public figure and is the idol to many hopeful children might want to rethink their choice of words, so to not set a bad example for them. If she wasn’t someone who people looked up to, well the fuck ‘em.
Unfortunately, that’s not the role she is in. She’s the GOAT!
Yeah I thought it was interesting that Nassar knew better than to mess with certain girls. I think it's no coincidence the outspoken ones (outspoken at the time, not later) were the ones who say they weren't touched.
love this episode like I love gymnastics! love you guys!
They needed the younger gymnasts who had little experience on the international stage bc they believed that this is what they had to do to get the medals. All the abuse and toxic environment they had to endure, I’m sure they thought that they had to go through all that to get the medals and to succeed. And the ones that might’ve recognized that something was wrong, many of them probably kept quiet because they wanted to succeed so badly. Maggie Nichols was one of the first to speak out in 2015, but she got shut down. Her speaking out probably contributed to her not making the Olympic team in 2016. If you go back and watch the competitions and Olympic trials leading up to the 2016 Olympics, she overall had great performances and showed good consistency, but she didn’t even get an alternate position. At the time, it really didn’t make much sense that she didn’t get at least an alternate position because she was a top contender and did well. So I think the example of Maggie speaking out and getting these things ripped away from her because of it showed why people were afraid to speak out because they didn’t want the same thing to happen to them. On top of that, winning medals was drilled into the athletes as the most important thing over anything else including their mental and physical health. Overall, the system was extremely toxic and it really did not allow for older and more mature athletes to come back because many became burned out, so physically injured, or they just didn’t want to go back to the toxic environment now that they got out and see how draining it was. But now, there are so many older athletes competing that are well into their 20s which I find amazing. Like Shawn said, it just shows how much the culture has changed for the better and it’s allowing for more athletes to enjoy their sport for longer.
How much you both publicly compliment and support each other is heartwarming ❤ Thank you for being such inspirations, and talking openly about counseling
Shawn, LONG story short, going to Olympic Trials in 2008 saved my life. I had to go to a new eye doc to get new contacts in time for that trip to Philadelphia and he spotted something that literally over 2 dozen other doctors missed. Days prior to leaving for Trials I was diagnosed with a disease that I've since had 10 brain surgeries for and I live with brain tumor symptoms every moment of my life. I was 21 and that week of Trials I was awaiting confirmation of a life-altering diagnosis with no cure. Trials gave me a distraction and you were a big part of that. Your smile was contagious. Thank you! (PS - Andrew, my hometown team is Washington, family held season tickets for decades, and I am thrilled we were the team you got to play for! HTTR!)
Aww I really hope they see and respond to this comment. So inspiring!
Just to clarify for you-- Gabby can only do 3 events at championship. She did not get her AA qualifying score and can not petition at this point. So if she decides to go, she can do vault, beam, and bars.
Listening to your experience at Chow's makes my heart sing for you and others. I watched your episode where you go back with your family, but I didn't really get 100% your devotion and experience like I am understanding it now. What an amazing place!
Watch Simone’s Call her Daddy interview then go back and watch her hubby on the Pivot podcast and that’ll pretty but explain it all. It was EVERYWHERE and so ridiculous when you realize she was in the room laughing off camera. Ijs…oh and still praying for my dream pod w/Shawn and Simone!!!!
I called it when it first happened. Bullying Simone's husband was bullying her and their marriage. It was sickening.
WHATS UP EVERYBODY
Y'all are just the cutest family & very down to earth. I'm impressed that y'all are open about some of your struggles. & the fact you are very open about counseling. You have no idea how that helps other moms & couples. Thanks for what y'all do,
Hey mommy and daddy!
I disagree with Dad. Mom was right. We love Simone. We need to focus on Simone. That’s it. Everyone else needs to leave her husband alone. Simone is putting her foot down. That shows courage & strength & confidence!
Shawn definitely doesn't give herself enough credit for being a great gymnast.
Being a former gymnastics coach, the idea of "shopping" your gymnastics skills, made me so excited. I wish I knew that when I was a coach. Thanks for sharing!
I’m kinda glad to see a fellow gymnast, Shawn be doing supportive of today’s team.
The tearing down their marriages are cause it’s this far extreme feminist to want to claim men are abusive and that see all the signs. They are annoying
4:06 didn’t Alicia compete till she was 24? Aly Raisman till she was 22? This was all before Marta retired where these ideas would be blatant. Also I think Shannon miller was 23, Dominique Dawes was 23, Annia Hatch 26, Mohini Bhardwaj 25.
I do know that they tend to lean more in favor on the younger side but they didn’t shy away when older girls showed promise. Also “overweight” gymnasts never existed. You cannot be an elite gymnast and be obese. Those ideas were created by insane unrealistic ideas of body standards. Long story short is if your doctor doesn’t determine you overweight then you aren’t . Coaches and others in charge are delusional and spread sickness this way.
I know you think people are just injecting themselves in Simone’s marriage but what was out out on social media about her husband and words that came out of his mouth is why I believe people think he isn’t good enough for her. I think people don’t mean her harm, they simply think she doesn’t deserve him and deserves better. Is it their business, no of course not. But he made it everyone business with the way he responded to a question about his marriage to her. She is without a doubt one of the GOATS of gymnastics and people feel a sense of wanting to protect her because they love her.
lol false. People do mean her harm. Get a clue on that.
Then again haters are hypocrites and are always bullies.
He clearly wishes he was shawn ... $100 that he comes out as gay on 10 years ot transitions haha
I have to say I agree with Andrew on this one.
While Simone probably has every right to feel frustrated about the unnecessary comments about her husband - she is in the public eye and it is expected that people are going to make comments about her and her life. That is just the way people are. I don't agree with it, but this is just part of life. People make comments about other people's lives like this that are not celebrities. We all need to figure out how to cope.
That being said, I am all for her feeling like she wants or needs to defend herself. While one of us might have to defend ourselves to just a few people in our lives, Simone is having to defend herself to millions of people who are making these comments. She can defend herself, and should. But as someone who is a public figure, the cussing and otherwise really foul language and tone of her message was off-putting. I can imagine it was off-putting to fans of hers that do agree people have been wrong to say those things, but didn't like her comment. I fall into that category. Being the best gymnast of all time doesn't really give her permission to be an asshole. And to be fair, this isn't just Simone that does stuff like this, many public figures do this as well, and I personally am not a fan of it. Others might not be bothered by it, and that is okay too.
I get she should should always have the option to say whatever she wants, and I agree with that, but there is always that balancing act with how you can do that when you are a public figure. It doesn't mean she should walk on egg shells as to not offend anyone either. That isn't what I was referring to. But she could have used better messaging to stand up for her husband and her marriage and then moved on.
Simone tried to be respectful but at a point you snap and lash out. I don't blame her one bit.
Someone gonna fight her at the next meet omg
Well said. I love Simone but I lost a little respect for her after that comment. It makes her seem immature.
Celebrities are put at such a pedestal, which is ridiculous. We are all humans and we are all imperfect. A 20 something will react how a 20 something reacts, let them live.
At the end of the day, she can’t please everyone at the same time, why not just do what you want at the moment. Especially when so many people are taught to just take the high road, no one is telling the cyber bulliers to back off. I’m glad she used her voice to set the boundaries instead of playing nice.
@@KS-lp3uiseems immature for the haters. She’s not allowed to respond back with same ignorance that is coming at her??
Wait - didnt Dominique Dawes do 3 - 1992, 1996, 2000, and Mohini Bhardwaj was almost 26 in 2004 Olympics? I dont think USA gymnastics had a thing going on about older gymnasts, or returning gymnasts.
I do think that younger gymnasts were easier to frighten into the sort of behaviour that some in USA gymnastics wanted during a window in time that both Dominique and Mohini could resist because they had coaches who wanted the best for them, and the maturity to not crumble.
We have seen coaches who will do anything to manipulate their students to benefit themselves, and a system that turned a blind eye to it.
We have seen mature and returning gymnasts who have changed the system, and praise be for that. I have total admiration for the women and girls who have taken back control of a bullying, coercive and abusive system, but they have paid a huge and terrible price.
There will always be outliers! It doesn’t change the main point - there WAS discrimination against older gymnasts!
Andrew adores Shawn and everything he does and says online supports that. The gymnastic community is used to that kind of treatment by a spouse for our beloved athletes! Comments were made that sounded less than that, and people took offense because they only want Simone to be adored by her husband as Andrew adores Shawn. That being said, I agree that what we see online is a snapshot and not the whole picture. It is their marriage and people should not continue to interfere in such a disrespectful way. Obviously it’s hurting Simone, and if they really care about her they should stop.
I love you guys. Thank you for sharing. Everything always look forward to what y’all have to share.❤
Shawn I know you as an Olympic Gymnast that I stayed up late to watch that summer. I’ve always loved to watch Gymnastics during the summer Olympics. I rewatched your beam routine yesterday July 30, 2024 during this year’s 2024 Paris Olympics. I remember like it was yesterday, watching that routine! I was so in awe of your skills. I was a Nanny for 2 girls who started competing in dance around age 10. It’s a ton of dedication and HARD work. You are amazing as a mommy and wife I enjoy watching you and Andrew in the podcasts. Can’t wait to hear all about Paris ❤. Andrew was Paris a vibe? How was the experience? 😊
Peace ✌🏻
Actually a lot of people have compared the adoration Andrew has for Shawn to Jonathan for Simone and say Jonathan should be more like Andrew. I do think this is just people taking a parasocial relationship too far, fans are acting like we know Simone personally, when we don't. Also her response was human. This trolling has been going on for wayyy too long and to too large of an extent for her to ignore. People have made 100s of videos on it, it's always the top and most liked comments in her comment section. She turned off her comments for a while and that didn't work. Personally I love that she posted that story.
And you guys are definitely not feeding into it with this video. Shew wrote that she appreciates the positive comments through it all and you guys are adding positivity to the whole situation as well.
Simone shouldn’t have addressed that at all. Should’ve limited/blocked people in peace. That tiktok vid she made last month didn’t work either. All it did was invite more trolls.
@@FkaRon I actually think the tiktok video helped. I saw a lot less of videos on tiktok being made about her marriage after that. Some trolls definitely continued but it lessened. Already after her Instagra, story, one of the most liked comments under the post of her and her husband is someone saying "I was on the bandwagon of trolling before, but since Simone said she doesn't like it, we should all stop". Regardless, the response was human. She was rightfully hurt.
@@SunmiLearns Nah I gotta disagree lol. That tiktok vid has over 6k comments filled with troll comments. It was the same week the CHD interview came out and that audience was also chiming in.
@@FkaRonI must have missed that cause I saw/see a whole lot less (actually none) of those videos on my fyp.
Sooo hope to get to see Gabby compete again!! Everyone send her loving vibes❤❤ So appreciate Simone and earlier generations for making gymnastics healthier for our littles and showing us what having healthy boundaries looks like in action. Pray for the haters, they have more hate for themselves than those they criticize
Thank you both for giving Gabby the grace she deserves because I was there and I've seen her training and agree she looks more powerful than ever I mean she added new skills after all these years and boy on vault she flies now. And her being back Olympics or not I'm extremely proud of her. I truly hope she continues to train and compete next season because the way she looks she can offer a lot to team USA in the next quad
I 1,000 percent agree Shawn! I understand why not to keep feeding into the negative vibes, but I don’t remember ever hearing about other successful athletes spouses before this 👀
Love you both SO MUCH! The way Andrew celebrates Shawn is beautiful to see! It is a great measuring stick to hope to attain. To be the fan of each other! You guys ROCK!!!!
The world NEEDS a Johnson-East/Biles long form episode (or series)!!!! Then bring the hubbies in!!! ❤❤❤❤
Happy that she decided to continue the next quad towards 2028
I really appreciate the commentary on community vs individualism, personal development, and reflection on BOTH negative and positive experiences that shapes the mentality we sustain through self image because these are really important things that I wish someone had conversed with me about when I was younger because I’m TOO aware of how the absence of them has left me deficient in fundamentals of healthy processing. I too developed a perfectionistic mindset to survive frankly impossible circumstances and unlearning the obsessive tendencies has been a labor of self love because the release of control TERRIFIES me but I am even more terrified of going the rest of my life burdened by the unrealistic expectations rooted in the feeling/belief that I have to perfect to be enough.
Good insights thoughts perspectives on competing in sports and life. enjoyed the time spent.
Everybody needs a Shawn in their life, I swear to God. What a human being
"they lost"
"they came in second"
I laughed at this but I also think about what the reporter said to Shawn after Nastia won AA like once a week
Wow, listening to Shawn talk about gymnastics is eye opening. I was a competitive gymnast also & it taught me a lot of life lessons also! Great podcast!! ❤
In regards to kids that go stir crazy, I was that kid but my parents couldn’t afford to put me in anything. I learned to create my own fun and activities, am a very independent and creative person. Now as an adult I see friends that are just learning what they actually enjoy, because it’s always been presented to them. Just a different perspective, and maybe a way to say they’ll be fine either way!
This is me and my husband in a nutshell. I had hours upon hours of structured activities growing up and every sport under the moon. My husband did not and made his own fun. It’s wild as an adult me exploring what I actually like and him already knowing haha.
Loved this. My son has found his passion in trampoline and tumbling. I’m learning so much as he continues to progress through the sport!
Shawn has such a generous spirit and lifts up those around her and is such a force in supporting women’s gymnastics today. I agree with Andrew that Shawn’s voice is meaningful.
It makes me smile when I see the effort Andrew puts in to be able to discuss gymnastics, much appreciated man! I love everything you guys produce in terms of content, but I appreciate even more when you guys bring up gymnastics, knowing how very important Shawn is and ALWAYS will be when it comes to this sport. Her insightful inputs on the matter is always on point and filled with care and love for the sport, clearly. Well done guys!
As an educator, I so appreciate both of your comments!
Oh...comment 2... I'm amazed when I hear parents talk about planning tons of summer activities for their kids. My parents did none of that. Lol We played outdoors. End of story. In the woods, in creeks, swinging on grapevines, making mud pies, making a treehouse, playing with friends, playing with toys, playing games like Tag, Swing the Statue, Red Light Green Light, Mother May I, catching lightning bugs, watching a jar of frog eggs turn into tadpoles...😆 We were on our own...getting called in when it got dark, with chiggers and mosquito bites. Absolutely happy and tired. Occasional trips to parks and picnics. Not criticizing... It's just different. We weren't entertained ...we entertained ourselves. I guess we were a little older than your kids for that but when younger we just played a little more indoors under supervision. The activities do sound great though. Probably the difference in small town vs. big city advantages.
Oh my goodness I have found my people. How Shawn thinks is how deep I think and my husband and I get into deep chats like this about all sorts of things. I even surprise myself by how my brain thinks and over thinks. It’s almost computer like and always has been. I can appreciate the topics and the vulnerability of how real you all are. Normalizing couples therapy and single therapy, health on all levels, it’s refreshing
Thank you so much for giving your thoughts from your perspective on current day gymnastics! I would love to hear you talk more about the gymnasts, for me it helps put things in perspective… I have always loved gymnastics and love to see the gymnasts competing at older ages… It blows my mind that Simone Biles is 27 because when I was 10 and falling in love with Kim Zmeskal I remember I was so sad because I already thought I was too old to start… so to see these women staying in the sport and reaching levels in the sport that have never been reached is just so inspiring to me!! I always want to know if the level of skill that Simone Biles has achieved is seen by other Olympic gymnasts as something that makes her truly one of a kind , the first of her kind, or a combination of the two… the way it is presented and the way she competes just has me in awe it is exciting as a spectator to watch! Is it her ability to perform her skills both at the highest level and when it counts the most the combination of skills that make her so unbelievable and in a league of her own? How do you view it? I have so many questions so please keep talking about gymnastics… it’s an insiders view that is such a gift! Thanks for all that you share with your audience of your life ! Love you guys!
I agree mostly with Andrew
Putt putt, riding bikes at our local lake, open gym, swimming, zoo, children's museums, botanical garden, movies, bonfire, volunteering, baseball game, nature walks, splash pads, playground, arcade, home depot and lowes Saturday morning workshops, make your own ice cream and so many other fun ideas!!!
Oooh 😯 ❤😊 great ideas!
My mom turned grocery shopping into an activity for my brother and me when we were young. Could she have rushed through the store? Sure. By involving us, we did not whine. It was like a treasure hunt to find the ingredients for meals.
We watched for child-friendly events at every local museum, the library, and event venue near us. The kids saw farming, participated in various science events, and when the fire stations did tours of the trucks, we went. Free band and orchestra concerts.
We would find out where youth baseball and softball were playing and bring a picnic. We knew none of the players and cheered for everyone who hit the ball or scored. Colleges had free student recitals we attended and we appropriately applauded.
Most events were free or very low cost. My budget was small so I scouted around for activities. My kids were born in 87 and 89 so the internet was not as robust as it is now.
Your mum is so clever! You can def turn grocery shopping into a game. Even ordinary activities like cooking and cleaning can be fun for kids. They actually do wanna help if you cater to their level!
I so appreciate the gymnastics convo! Thanks so much!
Maybe Simone can get off of social media until the Olympics are over. It could be less distracting.
They don't like her husband because he said that she's not a prize that he's the prize... Come on now we all know woman are the prize.. 😅
Loved this episode! But would also have loved to hear analysis about some of the other gymnasts beyond Simone and Gabby (Shilese, Suni, Jade, Jordan, etc.) …even if just some quick thoughts for a few minutes. They have incredible stories as well!
People just need to stop acting like they "own" other people. Simone owes NO ONE ANYTHING, who she dates, how she trains, what makeup or hair style she does, how much chalk she uses, etc. She owes them NOTHING, and they literally do NOT stop, sometimes the only option to defend yourself is to bite back, and no one is immune to being provoked, we are human. Much love!
I don’t disagree with y’all about Simone’s marriage, I think fans are sooo protective of her, kinda reminds me of the Swifties. We know everything she’s gone through, she deserves a partner that respects her 100%. He definitely came across arrogant in the interview.
The same thing as haters for both those people. They hate too much.
Love you Shawn. Been watching gymnastics since 1996 ~ almost religiously because i love it so much. I remember watching you and others as a junior and then as a senior and aside from of course your fantastic gymnastics, you were then as you are now humble. You stood out for this to me. You had this aura about you that was just pure and humble and watching this video and following you on IG, you still are this humble pure person that shines. Your comments about Gabby and Simone are so classy too. Thanks for being such a great role model. Hugs from Korea 😊
Could Shawn talk about what it was like to make it to the Olympic team?
Your BEST podcast yet! A “perfect 10.” In so many ways…. Team East Rocks!
Hi shaun, i am so glad to see you! blessings, i just watched your olympics. you would win beam
We love taking our two kids (3 and 1) to the farm ❤
Great idea!
I watched the core classic to see Jade Carey, Shilese Jones, and Jordan Chiles tbh, not Simone. We already know she's the best and we already know she's a lock for Paris. I wanted to see who else might be serious contenders.
Gymnastics is my favorite summer Olympic sport to watch. I only ever want to watch the Olympics specifically for Gymnastics.
Agree USAG doing MUCH better. But how much has NIL played a part?
Your channel came to me because of gymnastics. If y’all talk about different things, I don’t know. At first, I didn’t recognize you and was wondering how do you know so much about gymnastics. It would be great if yall somehow used your names as identifiers. I was happy to figure out who you were. I loved that commercial with your mom and you’re walking on your hands by the kitchen. That was so funny!
On the serious side, you have to give people time to shake their heads and get used to the idea that a still competitive gymnast is married.
We knew that when you are 20, it’s about age out time. puberty is postponed in a gymnast’s body (men and women’s,) so when you retire, that is when you date and get married. That’s very old school thinking and older people are still adjusting to that.
A couple of other things that we ask patience for is letting us old school gymnasts get used to the fact that girls go to college on scholarship AND still are able to compete in the amateur sports. That won’t take too long to get used to, but you have to agree, we are in the infancy of that stage of competition.
Other things that college gymnasts bring to the table that I’m not a fan of is their style changes.
First, they are just wrapping up their hair on top of their heads like they just go out of bed, didn’t shower, are wearing their fuzzy house slippers and robe to go get the mail. EEK! When they do that, it seems like they have no self respect or respect for the judges or their fan base. I saw Simone’s hair like that and thought, oh, that’s not a good look. (I hated it on Nastia, too.) Then she was at a different meet with a simple ponytail and I respected her so much more! First impressions are so important.
Next, they are bringing their college style of music with them to the amateur competitions. As a music educator and dance instructor (and former gymnast,) there is no musicality to what they bring to us. There is no depth in the musical selection, so there is no depth to the choreography, hence lower artistic impression scores.
I believe the only one I see that I can’t wait to see her floor routine again is Shailese Jones. She will proudly represent the U.S. at the Olympic Games and I can’t wait to see how her floor routine grows. (I’ve always believed that Shannon M’s floor routine was far superior to Kim Z’s.)
Pretty much anyone else… meh. 🫤
I am allowed to have my opinions just as much as competing gymnasts have the rights to choose whichever style of music they want, and I will support them. I wish they would postpone the college routines to the college of their choice and they will get their easy 10. (I see that quite a bit in college gymnastics. Too many 10’s. So many that they really don’t hold the same weight as they used to.)
As for Gabby, I’ve seen footage of her practicing her new release sequence on the high bar and she nailed it each time!! I couldn’t wait to see her do it in competition, and then core happened. I was still so proud of her. I know she has it. I’ve seen it. But I don’t understand why she scratched the other events. (?)
She is such a HISTORICAL figure and I admire everything she does. She has the talent to win medals at the Olympics. I pray she brings her confidence and strength with her and not let core hold her back. She’s gonna make the Olympics! I love her and my eyes will be glued to the tv set wearing a Gabby shirt!!
(😢By the way… I don’t even know who Simone is married to. I heard y’all say some athlete. I hope she is as happy as she can be in her life!)
Simone has the complete package to get gold AA this year, but she needs to keep her head in at all times so that she can stick her landings. I’m a little worried that she has learned bad habits by blowing off her bad landings, like she did at core.
When Flo-Jo was sprinting, she didn’t stop running when she hit the tape. She knew she had to go THROUGH the tape and finish at the end of the track. I admired her mental mindset when it came to competitions. I’m not seeing Simone run through the tape.
Thanks for letting me share some old timer’s thoughts!
I wish you were still competing!
to be clear, the "expectations" aren't around him being "good enough" to be with simone biles tho, it's that his comments were (understandably) perceived by women as disrespectful and somewhat sexist. i think the social media harassment is super excessive, but at the same time, it feels VERY fair to judge someone's comments made on a *public podcast*
My god these are good humans. Such a great relationship and testament to amazing counseling.
I think it's great "older" young gymnasts are competing. They have nothing to prove...they've already done it. They'll display their strength, skills, talent and determination to an admiring audience. I hope all of them do well! "Andrew Dean!!!" 😂😂😂
Chow's approach regarding the whole "it's a competition against yourself" thing has an interesting effect. It means that you aren't LIMITED by your competition. In other words, if you know someone's got a 12 and you need a 12.1 to beat them, you're aiming for 12.1. But you may be capable of higher. Yet knowing what you have to make to beat them means you're pushing for juuuuuuust beyond them. When it's against yourself, you're pushing as far as you possibly can. You're not held back by the bar SOMEONE ELSE has set.
There is a dynamic between Black men and Black women that adds a nuance to this you may be missing. Your point is well taken, but if THAT many people were upset on her behalf, there may have been something to it. Just consider that possibility is all I’m saying.
I am completely over the interview from months ago and was glad to see him there cheering her on. All I want for her is success and happiness. But his comments were jarring to me. It may hit different for me, but I think giving an interview to people about how you see your wife will draw criticism if it isn’t flattering.
I heard over the weekend that Gabby has with drawn. I was looking $orward to seeing her compete. Darn
Where is this please?
First time watching the podcast, it was so good ❤
I’m a mum with a 15 month old and currently pregnant but I planning activities for the summer is genius and I love planning!
I brought my son to theatre kids plays musicals, art classes.. YMCA classes. Swimming glasses.
Dannnngit!!! Was looking forward to the bar routine and yes even though I’ve of course seen it before- I’d have LOVED to see it again here. Gotta agree with Andrew on this one. ❤
Hi Shawn, could you speak to mens gymnastics?? Thank you!
Btw, while watching the gymnastics comps recently, all I could think about (aside from how great the girls were, is hoping Shawn and Andrew would do a recap watch party. Ijs! I love & truly respect Shawn’s game sooo much, it is always an honor to hear her speak on not only (and including) her greatness, but also the ones who came behind her (any maybe even before her). Let’s go 2024 Olympic Games!!!! 🫶🏽💐💐💐💐💐🙏🏾
Andrew - could you, as a spouse, truly ignore it if THOUSANDS of people were slamming and trolling Shawn??? We're not talking about a few dozen people you guys might get in your comments- we're talking on a whole new level, beyond what any of us could fathom. I think it's great she spoke up. It was on stories, so gone after 24 hours (yes, screenshots etc, but no longer on her social media). I doubt she will engage continuously with the trolls.
I again have listened to this podcast hoping I would agree and enjoy it! I enjoyed some of it this time . However, Shawn sometimes acts like she lives in this bubble where nothing bad is supposed to happen . I think Andrew hit the nail on the head when he was talking about Simone and how by talking about it on the podcast they were feeding into it. Also, if you are going to post, you are going to be criticized . It is just how it is . Not to be mean, but being famous, you sign up for criticism . You have to just have the coping skills to ignore it and focus on yourself.
Same for average people. Youre on social media, and you are forfeiting the same things.
Rich or poor, same thing.
Kinda hypocritical if people think it only applies to celebs and the rich.
Don’t forget Dominique Dawes and Shannon Miller!
Hey- the first 4 minutes. You said gabby, suni lee, gabby. How about jade carey who metalled?
Simone- i love her and all her skills. I just hope she can go through all the way!
I believe she was talking about All Around Olympic Medalists
I listened to every bit! So good.
I am curious, I am fairly new to your channel, well I have subscribed for a while, but I do not watch that often.( I should say not because of you guys, but I have a busy life as well) Having said that, have you seen those guys from Europe doing different gymnastic challenges? I recently watched them try to do Nadias bar routine. I also watched them try to do a cartwheel on the uneven bars.
❤❤❤❤❤ I so love this episode. We really need more people supporting individuals being torn down by the trolls.
Imagine- Gabby continues and becomes World Champion at 30 &, &, &, Olympic Champion Los Angeles 2028!!!!!!!!!!
I think the importance of getting Chellsie into a leadership position within USAG cannot be overemphasized.
Within figure skating, you saw the shift away from 14 and 15-year-olds (due to rules changes), which hopefully is encouraging some changes in attitudes toward training. I'm very hopeful that gymnastics will make some changes in training paradigms that allow athletes to peak later when they have more mental maturity. Now if we can just get ballet on board...
Andrew, it’s cute that you want to talk about your wife’s life in gymnastics at any opportunity. Shawn’s like, let’s not. 😂😂😂
Theyre not trolling Gabby. People are just not expecting her to make the team this late in the game, and her pulling out after one rotation doesn't give the appearance of loving the sport or fighting her way to the top. It makes me think of how she was in the stands at the 2016 games with a scowl on her face and a lack of sportsmanship towards her teammates. It's hard to cheer for her when she walks out like that.
She was known as “crabby gabby” unfortunately
They were trolling
The stuff ahout Simone's husband was not exoloained properly AT ALL!!!!! WTF
Loved to see McKayla’s Skinner’s husband during the last Olympic trials! ❤
I don't understand how Simone Biles even has time to read any social media! She has got to be one of the busiest people in the world.
She’s cares too much of what other people think. Thats not how you wanna live life imo.
you'd think! her being obsessed with what strangers say online has been an issue her entire career; you'd think she would be above it by now..
that's what I said...she has over 4 million follows and surely most of those comments were support...
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@@FkaRon. She’s the classic example of a people pleaser. I watch an interview last month and she talked about what happened when she did her first vault that could have been deadly but instead of her worrying about her safety she was worried about what Twitter would say and the team. If this happened during the time of the Karolyi’s she could have had injuries from being forced to compete and the team would most likely not make the podium too. It was a damn if you do damn if you don’t with the coach potato chip eats as she calls it. There are people still talking nonsense about the situation. The gymnasts are humans not robots. So hopefully she will get away from being a people pleaser and take care of herself and do this for herself!
Can i ask you why people are so agressive on Gabby and Simone where we have a lot of comeback like Chelsie Memmel ? or Nastia Luikin ?
Simone is one BA GOAT and people really need to just keep things they know nothing about to them self! I saw what you read yesterday and I was so upset and mad because of it.
As for her having to deal with that pressure I can't think of anyone but you Shawn that could relate what it feels like to have so much pressure on your shoulders than you. Sadly you had so much weight put on you from just the higher ups and the people of Iowa to do better, be better bring home all gold. At the time to me it felt like it was almost threatening if you didn't bring home nothing but gold which was sad. And then for the main one that was pushing it 24/7 never to of apologize for it or at least no publicly and dropped you like you never existed.
I will be cheering team USA from my chair and I'll smile, laugh, yell and cry with all of them. But more than anything I'll be happy they gave their all, everything they had and left it there on the floor no matter what they did or didn't bring back to their homes. Blessings!
can't be stated enough that extending athlete engagement into adulthood ought to reduce the ability for abusive set-ups to establish unchecked power over successive generations of juvenile athletes
I Love you Guys....
Thank you so much for Sharing This....
I wish them All the Best of Luck...😊
I Cant wait to see How they do...❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Its a bit of a drive for you guys but a little south of Nashville, in Columbia, TN, there is a place called aMuse'um Children's Museum. I think your kids would love love love it!!! Yall could walk around our cutie little downtown afterwards, get some icecream and there's some adorable kids shops, too. I think it would be an amazing summer afternoon! Check it out! ❤️
Andrew, Simone making a statement to the haters in that way isn’t the same as feeding into the comments because I think many of the haters saying negative things about her husband are doing it (they think) in defense of her. I believe she wrote that to tell her followers to stop “defending” me by putting down my husband because it’s actually hurting me too. She probably hopes by explaining it like that that people who actually do want to support her will stop making mean comments about him/their marriage. I think most of the people who’ve made comments such as saying he isn’t good enough for her are doing so because they think she’s amazing and deserves someone who thinks she’s the greatest catch (and from the interview he did it seems he might not think this way). No, people should not be tearing their relationship apart especially because no one actually knows them as a couple on a personal level, but I think most of the mean-spirited comments about him were from people trying to stand up for her.
Shawn, both you and Simone are showing your naïveté about the human condition. People who don’t have a good sense of self, will always find ways to try and tear people down on social media, and in life. Simone should have never responded by telling trolls on the internet to “eff off.” She lowered herself to their level. Shawn’s husband advice of not responding to trolls on Social, are so appropriate. One never gives negative comments any chance of blowing up. Simply ignore the trolls. They will simply have no life.
People were only concerned for Biles because he did an interview that was TOTALLY disrespectful to her and had a lot of red flags in it. I think people just care but dont realize that though he may have some red flags that outside people see, its up to her. If he has issues then they can work them out. That is what is not anyone's business but I do think people were just concerned because that interview and few other things were extremely rude to her and self absorbed. I agree with Andrew on her response. She has really came to light as the b word of gymnastics because of things she has said. Though she has EVERY right to say something she is a role model and she is in the public eye so honestly she should just delete them and move along and do her. I was a gymnast in the 90s it and was TOTALLY different. I wish it was then like now so the girls today have so much more then before and its great! So that is the best thing for me is to see the older girls being the leaders. Not just in the US but also we see it now in all countries including China which is wild. So good things are happening.
idk if you read these, but i recently made a comment else ware that it makes me tear up a bit seeing someone like reese esponda be able to make a goofy "whoopsie" face after a wobble on beam or talk to her coach in high spirits right after her salute on her now famous "save queen" bars performance at core classics...thinking how if this were 10 or 15 years ago we probably would have seen fear in her eyes, dread on her face knowing marta was watching
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I completely agree with you Andrew, I feel Shawn does not give herself enough credit she was much better on beam then Simone, I love Simone but Shawn would crush her if they were at that time to compete together.
Andrew she is right...we know how cool and talented she is. Her qord carries weight.
I hope you invite them on to the pod.. maybe you two could help them with your experience
As I understand that she has already qualified for two events from the last meet she did. The America classic?
who?
@@SonOfAGun1814 Sorry. I was having a conversation in my head. Gabby.
@@DogHairRules lol okay I wasn't sure because you said two events. Gabby qualified for three events at Nationals and can try to petition for all-around at trials if she wants next week is going to be interesting!
@@SonOfAGun1814Anyone invited to trials can do AA
I think men are just more inclined to boast about their achievements than women are in general, I'm definitely with you Shawn I would feel the same way almost 20 years removed from my gymnastics career lol. But it is sweet of him!
Bcuz in society even today, it’s not bad or negative for a man to do that.
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Different country!
Yikes…. Ok bruh