Older and more mature gymnasts are more likely to have opinions, know their boundaries, recognize toxic environments, etc. USAG back in the day needed young gymnasts because they needed people who wouldn't ask questions or stand up for themselves. They needed younger people who would be scared to ask questions or push back and made sure that anyone who did push back never got a chance.
@@anovemberstarI’m not agreeing or disagreeing, but ANYONE that is a public figure and is the idol to many hopeful children might want to rethink their choice of words, so to not set a bad example for them. If she wasn’t someone who people looked up to, well the fuck ‘em. Unfortunately, that’s not the role she is in. She’s the GOAT!
Yeah I thought it was interesting that Nassar knew better than to mess with certain girls. I think it's no coincidence the outspoken ones (outspoken at the time, not later) were the ones who say they weren't touched.
@@eddietucker7005 true but her response was on social media not at a meet. It’s the parents job to make sure their children are not following their “idols” on social media esp if an idol is an adult. She doesn’t have to pander to children on her pages. It wasn’t an tv aired interview or at a meet.
Just to clarify for you-- Gabby can only do 3 events at championship. She did not get her AA qualifying score and can not petition at this point. So if she decides to go, she can do vault, beam, and bars.
Shawn, LONG story short, going to Olympic Trials in 2008 saved my life. I had to go to a new eye doc to get new contacts in time for that trip to Philadelphia and he spotted something that literally over 2 dozen other doctors missed. Days prior to leaving for Trials I was diagnosed with a disease that I've since had 10 brain surgeries for and I live with brain tumor symptoms every moment of my life. I was 21 and that week of Trials I was awaiting confirmation of a life-altering diagnosis with no cure. Trials gave me a distraction and you were a big part of that. Your smile was contagious. Thank you! (PS - Andrew, my hometown team is Washington, family held season tickets for decades, and I am thrilled we were the team you got to play for! HTTR!)
Loved this episode! But would also have loved to hear analysis about some of the other gymnasts beyond Simone and Gabby (Shilese, Suni, Jade, Jordan, etc.) …even if just some quick thoughts for a few minutes. They have incredible stories as well!
How much you both publicly compliment and support each other is heartwarming ❤ Thank you for being such inspirations, and talking openly about counseling
Listening to your experience at Chow's makes my heart sing for you and others. I watched your episode where you go back with your family, but I didn't really get 100% your devotion and experience like I am understanding it now. What an amazing place!
Being a former gymnastics coach, the idea of "shopping" your gymnastics skills, made me so excited. I wish I knew that when I was a coach. Thanks for sharing!
I have to say I agree with Andrew on this one. While Simone probably has every right to feel frustrated about the unnecessary comments about her husband - she is in the public eye and it is expected that people are going to make comments about her and her life. That is just the way people are. I don't agree with it, but this is just part of life. People make comments about other people's lives like this that are not celebrities. We all need to figure out how to cope. That being said, I am all for her feeling like she wants or needs to defend herself. While one of us might have to defend ourselves to just a few people in our lives, Simone is having to defend herself to millions of people who are making these comments. She can defend herself, and should. But as someone who is a public figure, the cussing and otherwise really foul language and tone of her message was off-putting. I can imagine it was off-putting to fans of hers that do agree people have been wrong to say those things, but didn't like her comment. I fall into that category. Being the best gymnast of all time doesn't really give her permission to be an asshole. And to be fair, this isn't just Simone that does stuff like this, many public figures do this as well, and I personally am not a fan of it. Others might not be bothered by it, and that is okay too. I get she should should always have the option to say whatever she wants, and I agree with that, but there is always that balancing act with how you can do that when you are a public figure. It doesn't mean she should walk on egg shells as to not offend anyone either. That isn't what I was referring to. But she could have used better messaging to stand up for her husband and her marriage and then moved on.
Celebrities are put at such a pedestal, which is ridiculous. We are all humans and we are all imperfect. A 20 something will react how a 20 something reacts, let them live. At the end of the day, she can’t please everyone at the same time, why not just do what you want at the moment. Especially when so many people are taught to just take the high road, no one is telling the cyber bulliers to back off. I’m glad she used her voice to set the boundaries instead of playing nice.
It makes me smile when I see the effort Andrew puts in to be able to discuss gymnastics, much appreciated man! I love everything you guys produce in terms of content, but I appreciate even more when you guys bring up gymnastics, knowing how very important Shawn is and ALWAYS will be when it comes to this sport. Her insightful inputs on the matter is always on point and filled with care and love for the sport, clearly. Well done guys!
to be clear, the "expectations" aren't around him being "good enough" to be with simone biles tho, it's that his comments were (understandably) perceived by women as disrespectful and somewhat sexist. i think the social media harassment is super excessive, but at the same time, it feels VERY fair to judge someone's comments made on a *public podcast*
Sooo hope to get to see Gabby compete again!! Everyone send her loving vibes❤❤ So appreciate Simone and earlier generations for making gymnastics healthier for our littles and showing us what having healthy boundaries looks like in action. Pray for the haters, they have more hate for themselves than those they criticize
Love you both SO MUCH! The way Andrew celebrates Shawn is beautiful to see! It is a great measuring stick to hope to attain. To be the fan of each other! You guys ROCK!!!!
Wow, listening to Shawn talk about gymnastics is eye opening. I was a competitive gymnast also & it taught me a lot of life lessons also! Great podcast!! ❤
4:06 didn’t Alicia compete till she was 24? Aly Raisman till she was 22? This was all before Marta retired where these ideas would be blatant. Also I think Shannon miller was 23, Dominique Dawes was 23, Annia Hatch 26, Mohini Bhardwaj 25. I do know that they tend to lean more in favor on the younger side but they didn’t shy away when older girls showed promise. Also “overweight” gymnasts never existed. You cannot be an elite gymnast and be obese. Those ideas were created by insane unrealistic ideas of body standards. Long story short is if your doctor doesn’t determine you overweight then you aren’t . Coaches and others in charge are delusional and spread sickness this way.
In regards to kids that go stir crazy, I was that kid but my parents couldn’t afford to put me in anything. I learned to create my own fun and activities, am a very independent and creative person. Now as an adult I see friends that are just learning what they actually enjoy, because it’s always been presented to them. Just a different perspective, and maybe a way to say they’ll be fine either way!
This is me and my husband in a nutshell. I had hours upon hours of structured activities growing up and every sport under the moon. My husband did not and made his own fun. It’s wild as an adult me exploring what I actually like and him already knowing haha.
Thank you both for giving Gabby the grace she deserves because I was there and I've seen her training and agree she looks more powerful than ever I mean she added new skills after all these years and boy on vault she flies now. And her being back Olympics or not I'm extremely proud of her. I truly hope she continues to train and compete next season because the way she looks she can offer a lot to team USA in the next quad
Wait - didnt Dominique Dawes do 3 - 1992, 1996, 2000, and Mohini Bhardwaj was almost 26 in 2004 Olympics? I dont think USA gymnastics had a thing going on about older gymnasts, or returning gymnasts. I do think that younger gymnasts were easier to frighten into the sort of behaviour that some in USA gymnastics wanted during a window in time that both Dominique and Mohini could resist because they had coaches who wanted the best for them, and the maturity to not crumble. We have seen coaches who will do anything to manipulate their students to benefit themselves, and a system that turned a blind eye to it. We have seen mature and returning gymnasts who have changed the system, and praise be for that. I have total admiration for the women and girls who have taken back control of a bullying, coercive and abusive system, but they have paid a huge and terrible price.
Actually a lot of people have compared the adoration Andrew has for Shawn to Jonathan for Simone and say Jonathan should be more like Andrew. I do think this is just people taking a parasocial relationship too far, fans are acting like we know Simone personally, when we don't. Also her response was human. This trolling has been going on for wayyy too long and to too large of an extent for her to ignore. People have made 100s of videos on it, it's always the top and most liked comments in her comment section. She turned off her comments for a while and that didn't work. Personally I love that she posted that story.
And you guys are definitely not feeding into it with this video. Shew wrote that she appreciates the positive comments through it all and you guys are adding positivity to the whole situation as well.
Simone shouldn’t have addressed that at all. Should’ve limited/blocked people in peace. That tiktok vid she made last month didn’t work either. All it did was invite more trolls.
@@MostHated33 I actually think the tiktok video helped. I saw a lot less of videos on tiktok being made about her marriage after that. Some trolls definitely continued but it lessened. Already after her Instagra, story, one of the most liked comments under the post of her and her husband is someone saying "I was on the bandwagon of trolling before, but since Simone said she doesn't like it, we should all stop". Regardless, the response was human. She was rightfully hurt.
@@SunmiLearns Nah I gotta disagree lol. That tiktok vid has over 6k comments filled with troll comments. It was the same week the CHD interview came out and that audience was also chiming in.
Oh...comment 2... I'm amazed when I hear parents talk about planning tons of summer activities for their kids. My parents did none of that. Lol We played outdoors. End of story. In the woods, in creeks, swinging on grapevines, making mud pies, making a treehouse, playing with friends, playing with toys, playing games like Tag, Swing the Statue, Red Light Green Light, Mother May I, catching lightning bugs, watching a jar of frog eggs turn into tadpoles...😆 We were on our own...getting called in when it got dark, with chiggers and mosquito bites. Absolutely happy and tired. Occasional trips to parks and picnics. Not criticizing... It's just different. We weren't entertained ...we entertained ourselves. I guess we were a little older than your kids for that but when younger we just played a little more indoors under supervision. The activities do sound great though. Probably the difference in small town vs. big city advantages.
Oh my goodness I have found my people. How Shawn thinks is how deep I think and my husband and I get into deep chats like this about all sorts of things. I even surprise myself by how my brain thinks and over thinks. It’s almost computer like and always has been. I can appreciate the topics and the vulnerability of how real you all are. Normalizing couples therapy and single therapy, health on all levels, it’s refreshing
Gabby could have done that bar routine in her sleep. Something is off about that whole competition. Maybe something off with bar settings or something because lots of mistakes, such as Jade scraping her feet on the floor. Something smells off.
Putt putt, riding bikes at our local lake, open gym, swimming, zoo, children's museums, botanical garden, movies, bonfire, volunteering, baseball game, nature walks, splash pads, playground, arcade, home depot and lowes Saturday morning workshops, make your own ice cream and so many other fun ideas!!!
Thank you so much for giving your thoughts from your perspective on current day gymnastics! I would love to hear you talk more about the gymnasts, for me it helps put things in perspective… I have always loved gymnastics and love to see the gymnasts competing at older ages… It blows my mind that Simone Biles is 27 because when I was 10 and falling in love with Kim Zmeskal I remember I was so sad because I already thought I was too old to start… so to see these women staying in the sport and reaching levels in the sport that have never been reached is just so inspiring to me!! I always want to know if the level of skill that Simone Biles has achieved is seen by other Olympic gymnasts as something that makes her truly one of a kind , the first of her kind, or a combination of the two… the way it is presented and the way she competes just has me in awe it is exciting as a spectator to watch! Is it her ability to perform her skills both at the highest level and when it counts the most the combination of skills that make her so unbelievable and in a league of her own? How do you view it? I have so many questions so please keep talking about gymnastics… it’s an insiders view that is such a gift! Thanks for all that you share with your audience of your life ! Love you guys!
Your channel came to me because of gymnastics. If y’all talk about different things, I don’t know. At first, I didn’t recognize you and was wondering how do you know so much about gymnastics. It would be great if yall somehow used your names as identifiers. I was happy to figure out who you were. I loved that commercial with your mom and you’re walking on your hands by the kitchen. That was so funny! On the serious side, you have to give people time to shake their heads and get used to the idea that a still competitive gymnast is married. We knew that when you are 20, it’s about age out time. puberty is postponed in a gymnast’s body (men and women’s,) so when you retire, that is when you date and get married. That’s very old school thinking and older people are still adjusting to that. A couple of other things that we ask patience for is letting us old school gymnasts get used to the fact that girls go to college on scholarship AND still are able to compete in the amateur sports. That won’t take too long to get used to, but you have to agree, we are in the infancy of that stage of competition. Other things that college gymnasts bring to the table that I’m not a fan of is their style changes. First, they are just wrapping up their hair on top of their heads like they just go out of bed, didn’t shower, are wearing their fuzzy house slippers and robe to go get the mail. EEK! When they do that, it seems like they have no self respect or respect for the judges or their fan base. I saw Simone’s hair like that and thought, oh, that’s not a good look. (I hated it on Nastia, too.) Then she was at a different meet with a simple ponytail and I respected her so much more! First impressions are so important. Next, they are bringing their college style of music with them to the amateur competitions. As a music educator and dance instructor (and former gymnast,) there is no musicality to what they bring to us. There is no depth in the musical selection, so there is no depth to the choreography, hence lower artistic impression scores. I believe the only one I see that I can’t wait to see her floor routine again is Shailese Jones. She will proudly represent the U.S. at the Olympic Games and I can’t wait to see how her floor routine grows. (I’ve always believed that Shannon M’s floor routine was far superior to Kim Z’s.) Pretty much anyone else… meh. 🫤 I am allowed to have my opinions just as much as competing gymnasts have the rights to choose whichever style of music they want, and I will support them. I wish they would postpone the college routines to the college of their choice and they will get their easy 10. (I see that quite a bit in college gymnastics. Too many 10’s. So many that they really don’t hold the same weight as they used to.) As for Gabby, I’ve seen footage of her practicing her new release sequence on the high bar and she nailed it each time!! I couldn’t wait to see her do it in competition, and then core happened. I was still so proud of her. I know she has it. I’ve seen it. But I don’t understand why she scratched the other events. (?) She is such a HISTORICAL figure and I admire everything she does. She has the talent to win medals at the Olympics. I pray she brings her confidence and strength with her and not let core hold her back. She’s gonna make the Olympics! I love her and my eyes will be glued to the tv set wearing a Gabby shirt!! (😢By the way… I don’t even know who Simone is married to. I heard y’all say some athlete. I hope she is as happy as she can be in her life!) Simone has the complete package to get gold AA this year, but she needs to keep her head in at all times so that she can stick her landings. I’m a little worried that she has learned bad habits by blowing off her bad landings, like she did at core. When Flo-Jo was sprinting, she didn’t stop running when she hit the tape. She knew she had to go THROUGH the tape and finish at the end of the track. I admired her mental mindset when it came to competitions. I’m not seeing Simone run through the tape. Thanks for letting me share some old timer’s thoughts! I wish you were still competing!
Y'all are just the cutest family & very down to earth. I'm impressed that y'all are open about some of your struggles. & the fact you are very open about counseling. You have no idea how that helps other moms & couples. Thanks for what y'all do,
I disagree with Dad. Mom was right. We love Simone. We need to focus on Simone. That’s it. Everyone else needs to leave her husband alone. Simone is putting her foot down. That shows courage & strength & confidence!
Shawn has such a generous spirit and lifts up those around her and is such a force in supporting women’s gymnastics today. I agree with Andrew that Shawn’s voice is meaningful.
I know you think people are just injecting themselves in Simone’s marriage but what was out out on social media about her husband and words that came out of his mouth is why I believe people think he isn’t good enough for her. I think people don’t mean her harm, they simply think she doesn’t deserve him and deserves better. Is it their business, no of course not. But he made it everyone business with the way he responded to a question about his marriage to her. She is without a doubt one of the GOATS of gymnastics and people feel a sense of wanting to protect her because they love her.
Dannnngit!!! Was looking forward to the bar routine and yes even though I’ve of course seen it before- I’d have LOVED to see it again here. Gotta agree with Andrew on this one. ❤
I am curious, I am fairly new to your channel, well I have subscribed for a while, but I do not watch that often.( I should say not because of you guys, but I have a busy life as well) Having said that, have you seen those guys from Europe doing different gymnastic challenges? I recently watched them try to do Nadias bar routine. I also watched them try to do a cartwheel on the uneven bars.
Btw, while watching the gymnastics comps recently, all I could think about (aside from how great the girls were, is hoping Shawn and Andrew would do a recap watch party. Ijs! I love & truly respect Shawn’s game sooo much, it is always an honor to hear her speak on not only (and including) her greatness, but also the ones who came behind her (any maybe even before her). Let’s go 2024 Olympic Games!!!! 🫶🏽💐💐💐💐💐🙏🏾
I again have listened to this podcast hoping I would agree and enjoy it! I enjoyed some of it this time . However, Shawn sometimes acts like she lives in this bubble where nothing bad is supposed to happen . I think Andrew hit the nail on the head when he was talking about Simone and how by talking about it on the podcast they were feeding into it. Also, if you are going to post, you are going to be criticized . It is just how it is . Not to be mean, but being famous, you sign up for criticism . You have to just have the coping skills to ignore it and focus on yourself.
the backstory: some of simone's fans are/were upset with jonathan over an interview/podcast he did (pivot) where he says he never heard of her 👀 and that she pursued him and that he's the catch, etc. it just gave very dishonest and insecure energy, but simone stands by him and what he said and was in the room when he said it. but you can't have it both ways; if you're going to put your personal business out to the public, the public is going to make it their business and respond, and he does give off gross energy (imo). It may be a healthy relationship that the public doesn't understand, or might be a learning lesson for her. Either way when you lash out the way Simone did, it shows you're not secure in your own relationship, and it was really immature and disappointing. And it's just a bad pr move in general, especially in an olympic year. A lot of young people look up to her. Simone obsessing over the projections of strangers on social media has come up several times in her career having a huge negative affect on her. It's too bad she still hasn't risen above that at this point in her life.
I agree. Her comment is off-putting and it highlights her immaturity. She's mature for a gymnast, but she is still just a young adult in her 20s (as is her husband). Most adults would shake their heads looking back at some of the things they said and did as 20-somethings. Unfortunately for Simone and Jonathan, more is expected of them as public figures.
My mom turned grocery shopping into an activity for my brother and me when we were young. Could she have rushed through the store? Sure. By involving us, we did not whine. It was like a treasure hunt to find the ingredients for meals. We watched for child-friendly events at every local museum, the library, and event venue near us. The kids saw farming, participated in various science events, and when the fire stations did tours of the trucks, we went. Free band and orchestra concerts. We would find out where youth baseball and softball were playing and bring a picnic. We knew none of the players and cheered for everyone who hit the ball or scored. Colleges had free student recitals we attended and we appropriately applauded. Most events were free or very low cost. My budget was small so I scouted around for activities. My kids were born in 87 and 89 so the internet was not as robust as it is now.
Your mum is so clever! You can def turn grocery shopping into a game. Even ordinary activities like cooking and cleaning can be fun for kids. They actually do wanna help if you cater to their level!
I watched the core classic to see Jade Carey, Shilese Jones, and Jordan Chiles tbh, not Simone. We already know she's the best and we already know she's a lock for Paris. I wanted to see who else might be serious contenders.
Chow's approach regarding the whole "it's a competition against yourself" thing has an interesting effect. It means that you aren't LIMITED by your competition. In other words, if you know someone's got a 12 and you need a 12.1 to beat them, you're aiming for 12.1. But you may be capable of higher. Yet knowing what you have to make to beat them means you're pushing for juuuuuuust beyond them. When it's against yourself, you're pushing as far as you possibly can. You're not held back by the bar SOMEONE ELSE has set.
I think it's great "older" young gymnasts are competing. They have nothing to prove...they've already done it. They'll display their strength, skills, talent and determination to an admiring audience. I hope all of them do well! "Andrew Dean!!!" 😂😂😂
I think the importance of getting Chellsie into a leadership position within USAG cannot be overemphasized. Within figure skating, you saw the shift away from 14 and 15-year-olds (due to rules changes), which hopefully is encouraging some changes in attitudes toward training. I'm very hopeful that gymnastics will make some changes in training paradigms that allow athletes to peak later when they have more mental maturity. Now if we can just get ballet on board...
Hey- the first 4 minutes. You said gabby, suni lee, gabby. How about jade carey who metalled? Simone- i love her and all her skills. I just hope she can go through all the way!
Simone is one BA GOAT and people really need to just keep things they know nothing about to them self! I saw what you read yesterday and I was so upset and mad because of it. As for her having to deal with that pressure I can't think of anyone but you Shawn that could relate what it feels like to have so much pressure on your shoulders than you. Sadly you had so much weight put on you from just the higher ups and the people of Iowa to do better, be better bring home all gold. At the time to me it felt like it was almost threatening if you didn't bring home nothing but gold which was sad. And then for the main one that was pushing it 24/7 never to of apologize for it or at least no publicly and dropped you like you never existed. I will be cheering team USA from my chair and I'll smile, laugh, yell and cry with all of them. But more than anything I'll be happy they gave their all, everything they had and left it there on the floor no matter what they did or didn't bring back to their homes. Blessings!
Its a bit of a drive for you guys but a little south of Nashville, in Columbia, TN, there is a place called aMuse'um Children's Museum. I think your kids would love love love it!!! Yall could walk around our cutie little downtown afterwards, get some icecream and there's some adorable kids shops, too. I think it would be an amazing summer afternoon! Check it out! ❤️
Andrew adores Shawn and everything he does and says online supports that. The gymnastic community is used to that kind of treatment by a spouse for our beloved athletes! Comments were made that sounded less than that, and people took offense because they only want Simone to be adored by her husband as Andrew adores Shawn. That being said, I agree that what we see online is a snapshot and not the whole picture. It is their marriage and people should not continue to interfere in such a disrespectful way. Obviously it’s hurting Simone, and if they really care about her they should stop.
People just need to stop acting like they "own" other people. Simone owes NO ONE ANYTHING, who she dates, how she trains, what makeup or hair style she does, how much chalk she uses, etc. She owes them NOTHING, and they literally do NOT stop, sometimes the only option to defend yourself is to bite back, and no one is immune to being provoked, we are human. Much love!
Watch Simone’s Call her Daddy interview then go back and watch her hubby on the Pivot podcast and that’ll pretty but explain it all. It was EVERYWHERE and so ridiculous when you realize she was in the room laughing off camera. Ijs…oh and still praying for my dream pod w/Shawn and Simone!!!!
Everyone forgets about Jade. Not smart to count her out. She's phenomenal. I honestly only clicked on this to see her thoughts on Jade but based on the comments, doesn't seem like she talked about her 💔
@@MostHated33. She’s the classic example of a people pleaser. I watch an interview last month and she talked about what happened when she did her first vault that could have been deadly but instead of her worrying about her safety she was worried about what Twitter would say and the team. If this happened during the time of the Karolyi’s she could have had injuries from being forced to compete and the team would most likely not make the podium too. It was a damn if you do damn if you don’t with the coach potato chip eats as she calls it. There are people still talking nonsense about the situation. The gymnasts are humans not robots. So hopefully she will get away from being a people pleaser and take care of herself and do this for herself!
I think men are just more inclined to boast about their achievements than women are in general, I'm definitely with you Shawn I would feel the same way almost 20 years removed from my gymnastics career lol. But it is sweet of him!
Theyre not trolling Gabby. People are just not expecting her to make the team this late in the game, and her pulling out after one rotation doesn't give the appearance of loving the sport or fighting her way to the top. It makes me think of how she was in the stands at the 2016 games with a scowl on her face and a lack of sportsmanship towards her teammates. It's hard to cheer for her when she walks out like that.
I completely agree with you Andrew, I feel Shawn does not give herself enough credit she was much better on beam then Simone, I love Simone but Shawn would crush her if they were at that time to compete together.
Andrew, Simone making a statement to the haters in that way isn’t the same as feeding into the comments because I think many of the haters saying negative things about her husband are doing it (they think) in defense of her. I believe she wrote that to tell her followers to stop “defending” me by putting down my husband because it’s actually hurting me too. She probably hopes by explaining it like that that people who actually do want to support her will stop making mean comments about him/their marriage. I think most of the people who’ve made comments such as saying he isn’t good enough for her are doing so because they think she’s amazing and deserves someone who thinks she’s the greatest catch (and from the interview he did it seems he might not think this way). No, people should not be tearing their relationship apart especially because no one actually knows them as a couple on a personal level, but I think most of the mean-spirited comments about him were from people trying to stand up for her.
Shawn, I completely agree with you when it comes to the public "weiging in" on althletes and celebrities romantic relationships and personal lives. Its just getting RIDICULOUS. Its quite simply, nobody's business except the people in the relationship. Taylor Swift actually brings this up in several songs on her new album, and a lot of the time she is basically telling her fans to "Duck off." Not all of them of course, just the more ridiculous ones. I hate that ANYONE possibly thinks this is okay. Andrew, I do agree with you on ignoring negative comments, I think that's a good general practice. But I think it was good Simone made a blanket statement this one time, so we all know how she feels about it. Sometimes people don't always realize just how toxic they are being, especially when they are online. The people were warned! I love hearing more about Chow and how he operated his gym, he was the biggest blessing for you, Shawn, and it makes me so happy!
Andrew - could you, as a spouse, truly ignore it if THOUSANDS of people were slamming and trolling Shawn??? We're not talking about a few dozen people you guys might get in your comments- we're talking on a whole new level, beyond what any of us could fathom. I think it's great she spoke up. It was on stories, so gone after 24 hours (yes, screenshots etc, but no longer on her social media). I doubt she will engage continuously with the trolls.
idk if you read these, but i recently made a comment else ware that it makes me tear up a bit seeing someone like reese esponda be able to make a goofy "whoopsie" face after a wobble on beam or talk to her coach in high spirits right after her salute on her now famous "save queen" bars performance at core classics...thinking how if this were 10 or 15 years ago we probably would have seen fear in her eyes, dread on her face knowing marta was watching
@@DogHairRules lol okay I wasn't sure because you said two events. Gabby qualified for three events at Nationals and can try to petition for all-around at trials if she wants next week is going to be interesting!
People were only concerned for Biles because he did an interview that was TOTALLY disrespectful to her and had a lot of red flags in it. I think people just care but dont realize that though he may have some red flags that outside people see, its up to her. If he has issues then they can work them out. That is what is not anyone's business but I do think people were just concerned because that interview and few other things were extremely rude to her and self absorbed. I agree with Andrew on her response. She has really came to light as the b word of gymnastics because of things she has said. Though she has EVERY right to say something she is a role model and she is in the public eye so honestly she should just delete them and move along and do her. I was a gymnast in the 90s it and was TOTALLY different. I wish it was then like now so the girls today have so much more then before and its great! So that is the best thing for me is to see the older girls being the leaders. Not just in the US but also we see it now in all countries including China which is wild. So good things are happening.
can't be stated enough that extending athlete engagement into adulthood ought to reduce the ability for abusive set-ups to establish unchecked power over successive generations of juvenile athletes
I agree, we as the public …should not judge someone else’s marriages with but a snippet of someone’s life that is shown through social media…which can and is twisted to suit their narrative. We should never judge!
Shawn people blow things out of proportion with out ever meeting and or knowing a person period and I agree it's not right and with all the resources from print to news to media and social media it's wild world out there people paint narratives of what they want to hear and see. I wonder if it's an insecurity of themselves. Other than that your husband and you do a good job.
I wish that we could see the side of gabby you have described. The problem is we watched her at the Olympics display some very interesting behaviour when it came to her team mates. Then after the Olympics we watched her essentially take part in victim blaming women online and young girls for sexual abuse. Then at this latest meet we had to watch again while she basically left the stadium and didnt continue to support her team. Regardless of the circumstances of why she left, there are probably valid reasons but she still displayed herself a certain way and that was interpreted how it was interpreted. And yes it was aj individual competition but the fact of the matter is these girls are put together to make a gold medal winning team, and i just wonder how gabby would fit into that team and be able to work with the other girls as a team when she seems so self centered. Im hoping that at champs this week we see a totally different side to her and more people can rally behind her, but im not holding my breath.
Someone who quits after 1 event isn’t Olympic material. She could have tried the other events. There are better contenders and I’m not holding my breath either but it is respectable to try your sport again after a decade
I so appreciate your comments about Gabby and about Simone's marriage. It breaks my heart to see how eager people are to tear apart others. 😢
I first read that as "about Gabby and Simones marriage" 💀
@@darklight1030me too!!! 🤣
Older and more mature gymnasts are more likely to have opinions, know their boundaries, recognize toxic environments, etc. USAG back in the day needed young gymnasts because they needed people who wouldn't ask questions or stand up for themselves. They needed younger people who would be scared to ask questions or push back and made sure that anyone who did push back never got a chance.
Yep - can you IMAGINE the response of USAG 10 years ago if a gymnast.used the 'f' word in a social media platform 😂.
@@anovemberstarI’m not agreeing or disagreeing, but ANYONE that is a public figure and is the idol to many hopeful children might want to rethink their choice of words, so to not set a bad example for them. If she wasn’t someone who people looked up to, well the fuck ‘em.
Unfortunately, that’s not the role she is in. She’s the GOAT!
Yeah I thought it was interesting that Nassar knew better than to mess with certain girls. I think it's no coincidence the outspoken ones (outspoken at the time, not later) were the ones who say they weren't touched.
love this episode like I love gymnastics! love you guys!
@@eddietucker7005 true but her response was on social media not at a meet. It’s the parents job to make sure their children are not following their “idols” on social media esp if an idol is an adult. She doesn’t have to pander to children on her pages. It wasn’t an tv aired interview or at a meet.
Just to clarify for you-- Gabby can only do 3 events at championship. She did not get her AA qualifying score and can not petition at this point. So if she decides to go, she can do vault, beam, and bars.
Shawn, LONG story short, going to Olympic Trials in 2008 saved my life. I had to go to a new eye doc to get new contacts in time for that trip to Philadelphia and he spotted something that literally over 2 dozen other doctors missed. Days prior to leaving for Trials I was diagnosed with a disease that I've since had 10 brain surgeries for and I live with brain tumor symptoms every moment of my life. I was 21 and that week of Trials I was awaiting confirmation of a life-altering diagnosis with no cure. Trials gave me a distraction and you were a big part of that. Your smile was contagious. Thank you! (PS - Andrew, my hometown team is Washington, family held season tickets for decades, and I am thrilled we were the team you got to play for! HTTR!)
Aww I really hope they see and respond to this comment. So inspiring!
Loved this episode! But would also have loved to hear analysis about some of the other gymnasts beyond Simone and Gabby (Shilese, Suni, Jade, Jordan, etc.) …even if just some quick thoughts for a few minutes. They have incredible stories as well!
How much you both publicly compliment and support each other is heartwarming ❤ Thank you for being such inspirations, and talking openly about counseling
Listening to your experience at Chow's makes my heart sing for you and others. I watched your episode where you go back with your family, but I didn't really get 100% your devotion and experience like I am understanding it now. What an amazing place!
Being a former gymnastics coach, the idea of "shopping" your gymnastics skills, made me so excited. I wish I knew that when I was a coach. Thanks for sharing!
I have to say I agree with Andrew on this one.
While Simone probably has every right to feel frustrated about the unnecessary comments about her husband - she is in the public eye and it is expected that people are going to make comments about her and her life. That is just the way people are. I don't agree with it, but this is just part of life. People make comments about other people's lives like this that are not celebrities. We all need to figure out how to cope.
That being said, I am all for her feeling like she wants or needs to defend herself. While one of us might have to defend ourselves to just a few people in our lives, Simone is having to defend herself to millions of people who are making these comments. She can defend herself, and should. But as someone who is a public figure, the cussing and otherwise really foul language and tone of her message was off-putting. I can imagine it was off-putting to fans of hers that do agree people have been wrong to say those things, but didn't like her comment. I fall into that category. Being the best gymnast of all time doesn't really give her permission to be an asshole. And to be fair, this isn't just Simone that does stuff like this, many public figures do this as well, and I personally am not a fan of it. Others might not be bothered by it, and that is okay too.
I get she should should always have the option to say whatever she wants, and I agree with that, but there is always that balancing act with how you can do that when you are a public figure. It doesn't mean she should walk on egg shells as to not offend anyone either. That isn't what I was referring to. But she could have used better messaging to stand up for her husband and her marriage and then moved on.
Simone tried to be respectful but at a point you snap and lash out. I don't blame her one bit.
Someone gonna fight her at the next meet omg
Well said. I love Simone but I lost a little respect for her after that comment. It makes her seem immature.
Celebrities are put at such a pedestal, which is ridiculous. We are all humans and we are all imperfect. A 20 something will react how a 20 something reacts, let them live.
At the end of the day, she can’t please everyone at the same time, why not just do what you want at the moment. Especially when so many people are taught to just take the high road, no one is telling the cyber bulliers to back off. I’m glad she used her voice to set the boundaries instead of playing nice.
I love you guys. Thank you for sharing. Everything always look forward to what y’all have to share.❤
It makes me smile when I see the effort Andrew puts in to be able to discuss gymnastics, much appreciated man! I love everything you guys produce in terms of content, but I appreciate even more when you guys bring up gymnastics, knowing how very important Shawn is and ALWAYS will be when it comes to this sport. Her insightful inputs on the matter is always on point and filled with care and love for the sport, clearly. Well done guys!
to be clear, the "expectations" aren't around him being "good enough" to be with simone biles tho, it's that his comments were (understandably) perceived by women as disrespectful and somewhat sexist. i think the social media harassment is super excessive, but at the same time, it feels VERY fair to judge someone's comments made on a *public podcast*
Sooo hope to get to see Gabby compete again!! Everyone send her loving vibes❤❤ So appreciate Simone and earlier generations for making gymnastics healthier for our littles and showing us what having healthy boundaries looks like in action. Pray for the haters, they have more hate for themselves than those they criticize
Love you both SO MUCH! The way Andrew celebrates Shawn is beautiful to see! It is a great measuring stick to hope to attain. To be the fan of each other! You guys ROCK!!!!
Loved this. My son has found his passion in trampoline and tumbling. I’m learning so much as he continues to progress through the sport!
I so appreciate the gymnastics convo! Thanks so much!
I agree mostly with Andrew
Wow, listening to Shawn talk about gymnastics is eye opening. I was a competitive gymnast also & it taught me a lot of life lessons also! Great podcast!! ❤
4:06 didn’t Alicia compete till she was 24? Aly Raisman till she was 22? This was all before Marta retired where these ideas would be blatant. Also I think Shannon miller was 23, Dominique Dawes was 23, Annia Hatch 26, Mohini Bhardwaj 25.
I do know that they tend to lean more in favor on the younger side but they didn’t shy away when older girls showed promise. Also “overweight” gymnasts never existed. You cannot be an elite gymnast and be obese. Those ideas were created by insane unrealistic ideas of body standards. Long story short is if your doctor doesn’t determine you overweight then you aren’t . Coaches and others in charge are delusional and spread sickness this way.
In regards to kids that go stir crazy, I was that kid but my parents couldn’t afford to put me in anything. I learned to create my own fun and activities, am a very independent and creative person. Now as an adult I see friends that are just learning what they actually enjoy, because it’s always been presented to them. Just a different perspective, and maybe a way to say they’ll be fine either way!
This is me and my husband in a nutshell. I had hours upon hours of structured activities growing up and every sport under the moon. My husband did not and made his own fun. It’s wild as an adult me exploring what I actually like and him already knowing haha.
Everybody needs a Shawn in their life, I swear to God. What a human being
Thank you both for giving Gabby the grace she deserves because I was there and I've seen her training and agree she looks more powerful than ever I mean she added new skills after all these years and boy on vault she flies now. And her being back Olympics or not I'm extremely proud of her. I truly hope she continues to train and compete next season because the way she looks she can offer a lot to team USA in the next quad
Wait - didnt Dominique Dawes do 3 - 1992, 1996, 2000, and Mohini Bhardwaj was almost 26 in 2004 Olympics? I dont think USA gymnastics had a thing going on about older gymnasts, or returning gymnasts.
I do think that younger gymnasts were easier to frighten into the sort of behaviour that some in USA gymnastics wanted during a window in time that both Dominique and Mohini could resist because they had coaches who wanted the best for them, and the maturity to not crumble.
We have seen coaches who will do anything to manipulate their students to benefit themselves, and a system that turned a blind eye to it.
We have seen mature and returning gymnasts who have changed the system, and praise be for that. I have total admiration for the women and girls who have taken back control of a bullying, coercive and abusive system, but they have paid a huge and terrible price.
There will always be outliers! It doesn’t change the main point - there WAS discrimination against older gymnasts!
I called it when it first happened. Bullying Simone's husband was bullying her and their marriage. It was sickening.
Actually a lot of people have compared the adoration Andrew has for Shawn to Jonathan for Simone and say Jonathan should be more like Andrew. I do think this is just people taking a parasocial relationship too far, fans are acting like we know Simone personally, when we don't. Also her response was human. This trolling has been going on for wayyy too long and to too large of an extent for her to ignore. People have made 100s of videos on it, it's always the top and most liked comments in her comment section. She turned off her comments for a while and that didn't work. Personally I love that she posted that story.
And you guys are definitely not feeding into it with this video. Shew wrote that she appreciates the positive comments through it all and you guys are adding positivity to the whole situation as well.
Simone shouldn’t have addressed that at all. Should’ve limited/blocked people in peace. That tiktok vid she made last month didn’t work either. All it did was invite more trolls.
@@MostHated33 I actually think the tiktok video helped. I saw a lot less of videos on tiktok being made about her marriage after that. Some trolls definitely continued but it lessened. Already after her Instagra, story, one of the most liked comments under the post of her and her husband is someone saying "I was on the bandwagon of trolling before, but since Simone said she doesn't like it, we should all stop". Regardless, the response was human. She was rightfully hurt.
@@SunmiLearns Nah I gotta disagree lol. That tiktok vid has over 6k comments filled with troll comments. It was the same week the CHD interview came out and that audience was also chiming in.
@@MostHated33I must have missed that cause I saw/see a whole lot less (actually none) of those videos on my fyp.
Hi shaun, i am so glad to see you! blessings, i just watched your olympics. you would win beam
Oh...comment 2... I'm amazed when I hear parents talk about planning tons of summer activities for their kids. My parents did none of that. Lol We played outdoors. End of story. In the woods, in creeks, swinging on grapevines, making mud pies, making a treehouse, playing with friends, playing with toys, playing games like Tag, Swing the Statue, Red Light Green Light, Mother May I, catching lightning bugs, watching a jar of frog eggs turn into tadpoles...😆 We were on our own...getting called in when it got dark, with chiggers and mosquito bites. Absolutely happy and tired. Occasional trips to parks and picnics. Not criticizing... It's just different. We weren't entertained ...we entertained ourselves. I guess we were a little older than your kids for that but when younger we just played a little more indoors under supervision. The activities do sound great though. Probably the difference in small town vs. big city advantages.
Oh my goodness I have found my people. How Shawn thinks is how deep I think and my husband and I get into deep chats like this about all sorts of things. I even surprise myself by how my brain thinks and over thinks. It’s almost computer like and always has been. I can appreciate the topics and the vulnerability of how real you all are. Normalizing couples therapy and single therapy, health on all levels, it’s refreshing
Good insights thoughts perspectives on competing in sports and life. enjoyed the time spent.
Gabby could have done that bar routine in her sleep. Something is off about that whole competition. Maybe something off with bar settings or something because lots of mistakes, such as Jade scraping her feet on the floor. Something smells off.
Your BEST podcast yet! A “perfect 10.” In so many ways…. Team East Rocks!
Putt putt, riding bikes at our local lake, open gym, swimming, zoo, children's museums, botanical garden, movies, bonfire, volunteering, baseball game, nature walks, splash pads, playground, arcade, home depot and lowes Saturday morning workshops, make your own ice cream and so many other fun ideas!!!
Oooh 😯 ❤😊 great ideas!
First time watching the podcast, it was so good ❤
Shawn- I will never forget your career!!! You were amazing.
Thank you so much for giving your thoughts from your perspective on current day gymnastics! I would love to hear you talk more about the gymnasts, for me it helps put things in perspective… I have always loved gymnastics and love to see the gymnasts competing at older ages… It blows my mind that Simone Biles is 27 because when I was 10 and falling in love with Kim Zmeskal I remember I was so sad because I already thought I was too old to start… so to see these women staying in the sport and reaching levels in the sport that have never been reached is just so inspiring to me!! I always want to know if the level of skill that Simone Biles has achieved is seen by other Olympic gymnasts as something that makes her truly one of a kind , the first of her kind, or a combination of the two… the way it is presented and the way she competes just has me in awe it is exciting as a spectator to watch! Is it her ability to perform her skills both at the highest level and when it counts the most the combination of skills that make her so unbelievable and in a league of her own? How do you view it? I have so many questions so please keep talking about gymnastics… it’s an insiders view that is such a gift! Thanks for all that you share with your audience of your life ! Love you guys!
Your channel came to me because of gymnastics. If y’all talk about different things, I don’t know. At first, I didn’t recognize you and was wondering how do you know so much about gymnastics. It would be great if yall somehow used your names as identifiers. I was happy to figure out who you were. I loved that commercial with your mom and you’re walking on your hands by the kitchen. That was so funny!
On the serious side, you have to give people time to shake their heads and get used to the idea that a still competitive gymnast is married.
We knew that when you are 20, it’s about age out time. puberty is postponed in a gymnast’s body (men and women’s,) so when you retire, that is when you date and get married. That’s very old school thinking and older people are still adjusting to that.
A couple of other things that we ask patience for is letting us old school gymnasts get used to the fact that girls go to college on scholarship AND still are able to compete in the amateur sports. That won’t take too long to get used to, but you have to agree, we are in the infancy of that stage of competition.
Other things that college gymnasts bring to the table that I’m not a fan of is their style changes.
First, they are just wrapping up their hair on top of their heads like they just go out of bed, didn’t shower, are wearing their fuzzy house slippers and robe to go get the mail. EEK! When they do that, it seems like they have no self respect or respect for the judges or their fan base. I saw Simone’s hair like that and thought, oh, that’s not a good look. (I hated it on Nastia, too.) Then she was at a different meet with a simple ponytail and I respected her so much more! First impressions are so important.
Next, they are bringing their college style of music with them to the amateur competitions. As a music educator and dance instructor (and former gymnast,) there is no musicality to what they bring to us. There is no depth in the musical selection, so there is no depth to the choreography, hence lower artistic impression scores.
I believe the only one I see that I can’t wait to see her floor routine again is Shailese Jones. She will proudly represent the U.S. at the Olympic Games and I can’t wait to see how her floor routine grows. (I’ve always believed that Shannon M’s floor routine was far superior to Kim Z’s.)
Pretty much anyone else… meh. 🫤
I am allowed to have my opinions just as much as competing gymnasts have the rights to choose whichever style of music they want, and I will support them. I wish they would postpone the college routines to the college of their choice and they will get their easy 10. (I see that quite a bit in college gymnastics. Too many 10’s. So many that they really don’t hold the same weight as they used to.)
As for Gabby, I’ve seen footage of her practicing her new release sequence on the high bar and she nailed it each time!! I couldn’t wait to see her do it in competition, and then core happened. I was still so proud of her. I know she has it. I’ve seen it. But I don’t understand why she scratched the other events. (?)
She is such a HISTORICAL figure and I admire everything she does. She has the talent to win medals at the Olympics. I pray she brings her confidence and strength with her and not let core hold her back. She’s gonna make the Olympics! I love her and my eyes will be glued to the tv set wearing a Gabby shirt!!
(😢By the way… I don’t even know who Simone is married to. I heard y’all say some athlete. I hope she is as happy as she can be in her life!)
Simone has the complete package to get gold AA this year, but she needs to keep her head in at all times so that she can stick her landings. I’m a little worried that she has learned bad habits by blowing off her bad landings, like she did at core.
When Flo-Jo was sprinting, she didn’t stop running when she hit the tape. She knew she had to go THROUGH the tape and finish at the end of the track. I admired her mental mindset when it came to competitions. I’m not seeing Simone run through the tape.
Thanks for letting me share some old timer’s thoughts!
I wish you were still competing!
WHATS UP EVERYBODY
Y'all are just the cutest family & very down to earth. I'm impressed that y'all are open about some of your struggles. & the fact you are very open about counseling. You have no idea how that helps other moms & couples. Thanks for what y'all do,
Hey mommy and daddy!
I disagree with Dad. Mom was right. We love Simone. We need to focus on Simone. That’s it. Everyone else needs to leave her husband alone. Simone is putting her foot down. That shows courage & strength & confidence!
Shawn definitely doesn't give herself enough credit for being a great gymnast.
Shawn has such a generous spirit and lifts up those around her and is such a force in supporting women’s gymnastics today. I agree with Andrew that Shawn’s voice is meaningful.
I know you think people are just injecting themselves in Simone’s marriage but what was out out on social media about her husband and words that came out of his mouth is why I believe people think he isn’t good enough for her. I think people don’t mean her harm, they simply think she doesn’t deserve him and deserves better. Is it their business, no of course not. But he made it everyone business with the way he responded to a question about his marriage to her. She is without a doubt one of the GOATS of gymnastics and people feel a sense of wanting to protect her because they love her.
"they lost"
"they came in second"
I laughed at this but I also think about what the reporter said to Shawn after Nastia won AA like once a week
Dannnngit!!! Was looking forward to the bar routine and yes even though I’ve of course seen it before- I’d have LOVED to see it again here. Gotta agree with Andrew on this one. ❤
I listened to every bit! So good.
I am curious, I am fairly new to your channel, well I have subscribed for a while, but I do not watch that often.( I should say not because of you guys, but I have a busy life as well) Having said that, have you seen those guys from Europe doing different gymnastic challenges? I recently watched them try to do Nadias bar routine. I also watched them try to do a cartwheel on the uneven bars.
Maybe Simone can get off of social media until the Olympics are over. It could be less distracting.
Btw, while watching the gymnastics comps recently, all I could think about (aside from how great the girls were, is hoping Shawn and Andrew would do a recap watch party. Ijs! I love & truly respect Shawn’s game sooo much, it is always an honor to hear her speak on not only (and including) her greatness, but also the ones who came behind her (any maybe even before her). Let’s go 2024 Olympic Games!!!! 🫶🏽💐💐💐💐💐🙏🏾
My god these are good humans. Such a great relationship and testament to amazing counseling.
❤❤❤❤❤ I so love this episode. We really need more people supporting individuals being torn down by the trolls.
We love taking our two kids (3 and 1) to the farm ❤
Great idea!
I again have listened to this podcast hoping I would agree and enjoy it! I enjoyed some of it this time . However, Shawn sometimes acts like she lives in this bubble where nothing bad is supposed to happen . I think Andrew hit the nail on the head when he was talking about Simone and how by talking about it on the podcast they were feeding into it. Also, if you are going to post, you are going to be criticized . It is just how it is . Not to be mean, but being famous, you sign up for criticism . You have to just have the coping skills to ignore it and focus on yourself.
I Love you Guys....
Thank you so much for Sharing This....
I wish them All the Best of Luck...😊
I Cant wait to see How they do...❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Gymnastics is my favorite summer Olympic sport to watch. I only ever want to watch the Olympics specifically for Gymnastics.
the backstory: some of simone's fans are/were upset with jonathan over an interview/podcast he did (pivot) where he says he never heard of her 👀 and that she pursued him and that he's the catch, etc. it just gave very dishonest and insecure energy, but simone stands by him and what he said and was in the room when he said it. but you can't have it both ways; if you're going to put your personal business out to the public, the public is going to make it their business and respond, and he does give off gross energy (imo). It may be a healthy relationship that the public doesn't understand, or might be a learning lesson for her. Either way when you lash out the way Simone did, it shows you're not secure in your own relationship, and it was really immature and disappointing. And it's just a bad pr move in general, especially in an olympic year. A lot of young people look up to her. Simone obsessing over the projections of strangers on social media has come up several times in her career having a huge negative affect on her. It's too bad she still hasn't risen above that at this point in her life.
Says someone who doesnt have 7 plus million subscribers .. 🙄
@@anovemberstar says someone who doesn't have 7 braincells. thanks for the really neat pointless projection. xo.
I agree. Her comment is off-putting and it highlights her immaturity. She's mature for a gymnast, but she is still just a young adult in her 20s (as is her husband). Most adults would shake their heads looking back at some of the things they said and did as 20-somethings. Unfortunately for Simone and Jonathan, more is expected of them as public figures.
Could Shawn talk about what it was like to make it to the Olympic team?
My mom turned grocery shopping into an activity for my brother and me when we were young. Could she have rushed through the store? Sure. By involving us, we did not whine. It was like a treasure hunt to find the ingredients for meals.
We watched for child-friendly events at every local museum, the library, and event venue near us. The kids saw farming, participated in various science events, and when the fire stations did tours of the trucks, we went. Free band and orchestra concerts.
We would find out where youth baseball and softball were playing and bring a picnic. We knew none of the players and cheered for everyone who hit the ball or scored. Colleges had free student recitals we attended and we appropriately applauded.
Most events were free or very low cost. My budget was small so I scouted around for activities. My kids were born in 87 and 89 so the internet was not as robust as it is now.
Your mum is so clever! You can def turn grocery shopping into a game. Even ordinary activities like cooking and cleaning can be fun for kids. They actually do wanna help if you cater to their level!
Hi Shawn, could you speak to mens gymnastics?? Thank you!
I heard over the weekend that Gabby has with drawn. I was looking $orward to seeing her compete. Darn
Where is this please?
I’m a mum with a 15 month old and currently pregnant but I planning activities for the summer is genius and I love planning!
Agree USAG doing MUCH better. But how much has NIL played a part?
I watched the core classic to see Jade Carey, Shilese Jones, and Jordan Chiles tbh, not Simone. We already know she's the best and we already know she's a lock for Paris. I wanted to see who else might be serious contenders.
Chow's approach regarding the whole "it's a competition against yourself" thing has an interesting effect. It means that you aren't LIMITED by your competition. In other words, if you know someone's got a 12 and you need a 12.1 to beat them, you're aiming for 12.1. But you may be capable of higher. Yet knowing what you have to make to beat them means you're pushing for juuuuuuust beyond them. When it's against yourself, you're pushing as far as you possibly can. You're not held back by the bar SOMEONE ELSE has set.
I think it's great "older" young gymnasts are competing. They have nothing to prove...they've already done it. They'll display their strength, skills, talent and determination to an admiring audience. I hope all of them do well! "Andrew Dean!!!" 😂😂😂
I brought my son to theatre kids plays musicals, art classes.. YMCA classes. Swimming glasses.
I think the importance of getting Chellsie into a leadership position within USAG cannot be overemphasized.
Within figure skating, you saw the shift away from 14 and 15-year-olds (due to rules changes), which hopefully is encouraging some changes in attitudes toward training. I'm very hopeful that gymnastics will make some changes in training paradigms that allow athletes to peak later when they have more mental maturity. Now if we can just get ballet on board...
Hey- the first 4 minutes. You said gabby, suni lee, gabby. How about jade carey who metalled?
Simone- i love her and all her skills. I just hope she can go through all the way!
I believe she was talking about All Around Olympic Medalists
Simone is one BA GOAT and people really need to just keep things they know nothing about to them self! I saw what you read yesterday and I was so upset and mad because of it.
As for her having to deal with that pressure I can't think of anyone but you Shawn that could relate what it feels like to have so much pressure on your shoulders than you. Sadly you had so much weight put on you from just the higher ups and the people of Iowa to do better, be better bring home all gold. At the time to me it felt like it was almost threatening if you didn't bring home nothing but gold which was sad. And then for the main one that was pushing it 24/7 never to of apologize for it or at least no publicly and dropped you like you never existed.
I will be cheering team USA from my chair and I'll smile, laugh, yell and cry with all of them. But more than anything I'll be happy they gave their all, everything they had and left it there on the floor no matter what they did or didn't bring back to their homes. Blessings!
Its a bit of a drive for you guys but a little south of Nashville, in Columbia, TN, there is a place called aMuse'um Children's Museum. I think your kids would love love love it!!! Yall could walk around our cutie little downtown afterwards, get some icecream and there's some adorable kids shops, too. I think it would be an amazing summer afternoon! Check it out! ❤️
The world NEEDS a Johnson-East/Biles long form episode (or series)!!!! Then bring the hubbies in!!! ❤❤❤❤
Just gained a bunch more respect for Shawn!! ❤❤❤❤❤
Andrew adores Shawn and everything he does and says online supports that. The gymnastic community is used to that kind of treatment by a spouse for our beloved athletes! Comments were made that sounded less than that, and people took offense because they only want Simone to be adored by her husband as Andrew adores Shawn. That being said, I agree that what we see online is a snapshot and not the whole picture. It is their marriage and people should not continue to interfere in such a disrespectful way. Obviously it’s hurting Simone, and if they really care about her they should stop.
People just need to stop acting like they "own" other people. Simone owes NO ONE ANYTHING, who she dates, how she trains, what makeup or hair style she does, how much chalk she uses, etc. She owes them NOTHING, and they literally do NOT stop, sometimes the only option to defend yourself is to bite back, and no one is immune to being provoked, we are human. Much love!
I hope you invite them on to the pod.. maybe you two could help them with your experience
Watch Simone’s Call her Daddy interview then go back and watch her hubby on the Pivot podcast and that’ll pretty but explain it all. It was EVERYWHERE and so ridiculous when you realize she was in the room laughing off camera. Ijs…oh and still praying for my dream pod w/Shawn and Simone!!!!
Only in four minutes ...
What about Jade ?
She's a
So a returning Olympian.
(Not all round medalist, but still ....)
Everyone forgets about Jade. Not smart to count her out. She's phenomenal. I honestly only clicked on this to see her thoughts on Jade but based on the comments, doesn't seem like she talked about her 💔
@@omglauraelizabeth
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Not even once.
I guess it was more about 'returning gold medial all-arounders.'
Can i ask you why people are so agressive on Gabby and Simone where we have a lot of comeback like Chelsie Memmel ? or Nastia Luikin ?
I don't understand how Simone Biles even has time to read any social media! She has got to be one of the busiest people in the world.
She’s cares too much of what other people think. Thats not how you wanna live life imo.
you'd think! her being obsessed with what strangers say online has been an issue her entire career; you'd think she would be above it by now..
that's what I said...she has over 4 million follows and surely most of those comments were support...
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@@MostHated33. She’s the classic example of a people pleaser. I watch an interview last month and she talked about what happened when she did her first vault that could have been deadly but instead of her worrying about her safety she was worried about what Twitter would say and the team. If this happened during the time of the Karolyi’s she could have had injuries from being forced to compete and the team would most likely not make the podium too. It was a damn if you do damn if you don’t with the coach potato chip eats as she calls it. There are people still talking nonsense about the situation. The gymnasts are humans not robots. So hopefully she will get away from being a people pleaser and take care of herself and do this for herself!
I think men are just more inclined to boast about their achievements than women are in general, I'm definitely with you Shawn I would feel the same way almost 20 years removed from my gymnastics career lol. But it is sweet of him!
Theyre not trolling Gabby. People are just not expecting her to make the team this late in the game, and her pulling out after one rotation doesn't give the appearance of loving the sport or fighting her way to the top. It makes me think of how she was in the stands at the 2016 games with a scowl on her face and a lack of sportsmanship towards her teammates. It's hard to cheer for her when she walks out like that.
She was known as “crabby gabby” unfortunately
My grandkids love to go to the park and playground.
What do you think about all the local kids sports that give all the kids a trophy?
Don’t forget Dominique Dawes and Shannon Miller!
I completely agree with you Andrew, I feel Shawn does not give herself enough credit she was much better on beam then Simone, I love Simone but Shawn would crush her if they were at that time to compete together.
Andrew, Simone making a statement to the haters in that way isn’t the same as feeding into the comments because I think many of the haters saying negative things about her husband are doing it (they think) in defense of her. I believe she wrote that to tell her followers to stop “defending” me by putting down my husband because it’s actually hurting me too. She probably hopes by explaining it like that that people who actually do want to support her will stop making mean comments about him/their marriage. I think most of the people who’ve made comments such as saying he isn’t good enough for her are doing so because they think she’s amazing and deserves someone who thinks she’s the greatest catch (and from the interview he did it seems he might not think this way). No, people should not be tearing their relationship apart especially because no one actually knows them as a couple on a personal level, but I think most of the mean-spirited comments about him were from people trying to stand up for her.
Shawn, I completely agree with you when it comes to the public "weiging in" on althletes and celebrities romantic relationships and personal lives. Its just getting RIDICULOUS. Its quite simply, nobody's business except the people in the relationship. Taylor Swift actually brings this up in several songs on her new album, and a lot of the time she is basically telling her fans to "Duck off." Not all of them of course, just the more ridiculous ones. I hate that ANYONE possibly thinks this is okay.
Andrew, I do agree with you on ignoring negative comments, I think that's a good general practice. But I think it was good Simone made a blanket statement this one time, so we all know how she feels about it. Sometimes people don't always realize just how toxic they are being, especially when they are online. The people were warned!
I love hearing more about Chow and how he operated his gym, he was the biggest blessing for you, Shawn, and it makes me so happy!
Andrew, it’s cute that you want to talk about your wife’s life in gymnastics at any opportunity. Shawn’s like, let’s not. 😂😂😂
Andrew - could you, as a spouse, truly ignore it if THOUSANDS of people were slamming and trolling Shawn??? We're not talking about a few dozen people you guys might get in your comments- we're talking on a whole new level, beyond what any of us could fathom. I think it's great she spoke up. It was on stories, so gone after 24 hours (yes, screenshots etc, but no longer on her social media). I doubt she will engage continuously with the trolls.
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Do you have too bads comment too ?
Have hunter and Tara on there are both going for the Olympics track.
idk if you read these, but i recently made a comment else ware that it makes me tear up a bit seeing someone like reese esponda be able to make a goofy "whoopsie" face after a wobble on beam or talk to her coach in high spirits right after her salute on her now famous "save queen" bars performance at core classics...thinking how if this were 10 or 15 years ago we probably would have seen fear in her eyes, dread on her face knowing marta was watching
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Different country!
Yikes…. Ok bruh
As I understand that she has already qualified for two events from the last meet she did. The America classic?
who?
@@SonOfAGun1814 Sorry. I was having a conversation in my head. Gabby.
@@DogHairRules lol okay I wasn't sure because you said two events. Gabby qualified for three events at Nationals and can try to petition for all-around at trials if she wants next week is going to be interesting!
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People were only concerned for Biles because he did an interview that was TOTALLY disrespectful to her and had a lot of red flags in it. I think people just care but dont realize that though he may have some red flags that outside people see, its up to her. If he has issues then they can work them out. That is what is not anyone's business but I do think people were just concerned because that interview and few other things were extremely rude to her and self absorbed. I agree with Andrew on her response. She has really came to light as the b word of gymnastics because of things she has said. Though she has EVERY right to say something she is a role model and she is in the public eye so honestly she should just delete them and move along and do her. I was a gymnast in the 90s it and was TOTALLY different. I wish it was then like now so the girls today have so much more then before and its great! So that is the best thing for me is to see the older girls being the leaders. Not just in the US but also we see it now in all countries including China which is wild. So good things are happening.
can't be stated enough that extending athlete engagement into adulthood ought to reduce the ability for abusive set-ups to establish unchecked power over successive generations of juvenile athletes
Imagine- Gabby continues and becomes World Champion at 30 &, &, &, Olympic Champion Los Angeles 2028!!!!!!!!!!
Andrew she is right...we know how cool and talented she is. Her qord carries weight.
I agree, we as the public …should not judge someone else’s marriages with but a snippet of someone’s life that is shown through social media…which can and is twisted to suit their narrative. We should never judge!
In regards to Simone when she met her husband he had no idea who she was and he said that again and the media ran away with it
Shawn people blow things out of proportion with out ever meeting and or knowing a person period and I agree it's not right and with all the resources from print to news to media and social media it's wild world out there people paint narratives of what they want to hear and see. I wonder if it's an insecurity of themselves. Other than that your husband and you do a good job.
I wish that we could see the side of gabby you have described. The problem is we watched her at the Olympics display some very interesting behaviour when it came to her team mates. Then after the Olympics we watched her essentially take part in victim blaming women online and young girls for sexual abuse. Then at this latest meet we had to watch again while she basically left the stadium and didnt continue to support her team. Regardless of the circumstances of why she left, there are probably valid reasons but she still displayed herself a certain way and that was interpreted how it was interpreted. And yes it was aj individual competition but the fact of the matter is these girls are put together to make a gold medal winning team, and i just wonder how gabby would fit into that team and be able to work with the other girls as a team when she seems so self centered. Im hoping that at champs this week we see a totally different side to her and more people can rally behind her, but im not holding my breath.
Someone who quits after 1 event isn’t Olympic material. She could have tried the other events. There are better contenders and I’m not holding my breath either but it is respectable to try your sport again after a decade