Happy spring my hay producing friend. Thanks for today's flat rack video, you can never have enough wagons. Your orange running gear is an older 10-ton model 6072 Kory made in Nautilus IL & they are also good gears, I have a bunch of them on my place in Northcentral WI.
I’ve heard of Kory and knew they were good, but don’t know I owned one. For some reason I always thought this was a Gehl gear. Not sure if I had found something on it that said that or what, but I can’t find it anymore. So I don’t know what got me thinking that.
Great video! I really appreciate your approach to them. I have some pretty rough kicker wagons that I keep stringing along - always with hopes/needs to redo them, and always short on time or $$ for a full rebuild project. But this gives some inspiration and good ideas, so thanks!
I enjoy building them, but have not had to do it in a few years now because four wagons I found is all I need. One of my customers brings her own wagon and we load that directly from behind the Baler, so I technically have five wagons I’m working with. It used to be a past time that I would build a wagon with one of my foster kids. But now they are all out of the house.
Interesting. I bought an old hay wagon a year or two ago and in redoing it I discovered that the front end of the beams weren't bolted to the gear but the back was. I later learned that this was (as you say) for flexibility. I guess it doesn't really matter if you bolt one or the other but at the time I thought whoever built it forgot the bolts...guess I'll have to take them out.
The reason I do the front bolted is because all the weight is on the back. I don’t want the front popping up but also AND if one of the ends is not going to be bolted and able to bounce around a lot, I want it to be the end that has the most weight to help hold it down.
Great video. Thanks for the tips. I need to redeck a hay wagon I picked up this year. The wood is rotted. It is a Case with the same type steering as your wagons.
Rainy is an App, I believe he’s a ‘96 or ‘97. Kind of dopey like I say in the video lol, but he is a very sweet, nice horse. Runs up to you when you call him, likes to be around you, you can just walk out to him in the pasture, put your hand around his jaw and lead him back up to the barn just like that. The only thing I hate about grays is they look so terrible in the winter when they are fuzzy. Something about grays versus every other color that just look worse. In the summer he looks great.
I know what you mean. Ours was a thoroughbred cross. He was like a dog - so friendly and curious. Always wanted to be with us if we were out doing things.@@TheScientistHayFarmer
I've got 4 of those JD gears, I agree they tow nicely at speed. Your decks will do for squares but don't loan them to a neighbour for round bales or silage bales lol. I'd never go with less than a 4 by 10 oak or ash for beams on a wagon for real work. In 1988 we borrowed a friends wagon for hauling 5x5 Vermeer bales, two 2x10 spiked together like yours, we got it half loaded and it collapsed in the center.
Im currently fixing up one, but the problem is those bolster brackets. im having a hard time finding them. Do you know of anyone who sells them? I really would appreciate it
Happy spring my hay producing friend. Thanks for today's flat rack video, you can never have enough wagons. Your orange running gear is an older 10-ton model 6072 Kory made in Nautilus IL & they are also good gears, I have a bunch of them on my place in Northcentral WI.
I’ve heard of Kory and knew they were good, but don’t know I owned one. For some reason I always thought this was a Gehl gear. Not sure if I had found something on it that said that or what, but I can’t find it anymore. So I don’t know what got me thinking that.
@@TheScientistHayFarmer Hello, Gehl gears were built by Knowles MFG in Glenbeaulh WI. Have a nice Sunday!
Great video! I really appreciate your approach to them. I have some pretty rough kicker wagons that I keep stringing along - always with hopes/needs to redo them, and always short on time or $$ for a full rebuild project. But this gives some inspiration and good ideas, so thanks!
I enjoy building them, but have not had to do it in a few years now because four wagons I found is all I need. One of my customers brings her own wagon and we load that directly from behind the Baler, so I technically have five wagons I’m working with. It used to be a past time that I would build a wagon with one of my foster kids. But now they are all out of the house.
Your orange gear looks like Bradford running gear. I have 2. They tow excellent.
Interesting. I bought an old hay wagon a year or two ago and in redoing it I discovered that the front end of the beams weren't bolted to the gear but the back was. I later learned that this was (as you say) for flexibility. I guess it doesn't really matter if you bolt one or the other but at the time I thought whoever built it forgot the bolts...guess I'll have to take them out.
The reason I do the front bolted is because all the weight is on the back. I don’t want the front popping up but also AND if one of the ends is not going to be bolted and able to bounce around a lot, I want it to be the end that has the most weight to help hold it down.
@@TheScientistHayFarmerMakes sense. Mine is used for sawmill logs and firewood so the weight should be pretty even if I load it right. 😁
Great video. Thanks for the tips. I need to redeck a hay wagon I picked up this year. The wood is rotted. It is a Case with the same type steering as your wagons.
Great video straight to the point.
Appreciate the feedback, that’s what I was trying to go for.
Awesome job...we had a gray horse just like that. Lived to 34 years old.
Rainy is an App, I believe he’s a ‘96 or ‘97. Kind of dopey like I say in the video lol, but he is a very sweet, nice horse. Runs up to you when you call him, likes to be around you, you can just walk out to him in the pasture, put your hand around his jaw and lead him back up to the barn just like that. The only thing I hate about grays is they look so terrible in the winter when they are fuzzy. Something about grays versus every other color that just look worse. In the summer he looks great.
I know what you mean. Ours was a thoroughbred cross. He was like a dog - so friendly and curious. Always wanted to be with us if we were out doing things.@@TheScientistHayFarmer
@andyrobinson339 I have always said horses are just big dogs.
The motor oil works the best i have found for wood
Good video and tips thanks
I've got 4 of those JD gears, I agree they tow nicely at speed. Your decks will do for squares but don't loan them to a neighbour for round bales or silage bales lol. I'd never go with less than a 4 by 10 oak or ash for beams on a wagon for real work. In 1988 we borrowed a friends wagon for hauling 5x5 Vermeer bales, two 2x10 spiked together like yours, we got it half loaded and it collapsed in the center.
I’ve hauled 4x5 rounds on these before. But not stacked.
Do they make these in 4 foot wide or 3.5 foot wide by chance?
Is there a model or specific style type for the John Deere running gear?
Models 953 and 963 are the most common ones you’ll see. The 963 is a heavier gear.
Im currently fixing up one, but the problem is those bolster brackets. im having a hard time finding them. Do you know of anyone who sells them? I really would appreciate it
If it were me I would just make some out of angle iron. Would be very easy to do.
What is the frame size?
Not sure what you mean. Like how many ton the running gears are rated for? Not sure off the top of my head. I think 5-6 ton.
What is the frame size?